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IRC log for #puppet-openstack, 2014-10-28

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10:39 EmilienM Good morning
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10:49 deepakcs Hi all, I am a puppet newbie and have a novice question. Is it possible to configure puppet (master / slave mode) to work in a on-demand fashion... example follows...
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10:50 deepakcs Eg: My site manifest file creates a new export from a pool of resources pre-configuired. I wanted a different export to be created everytime i invoke the agent
10:50 deepakcs Do i need to change the site.pp everytime for new export to get created or is there a automated way ?
10:51 deepakcs for eg: I want to create a /exports/newname and NFS export it. Next iteration i want to do /exports/newname2 and NFS export it.. (as an example takign NFS, my real world example is complex to specify here)
10:55 deepakcs How does the puppet master/slave or 'puppet apply' semantic fit in the openstack semantic of ` create_export - create a new export in the backend ` ?
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13:19 Topic for #puppet-openstack is now Place to collaborate on Puppet/OpenStack tools: logs at http://irclog.perlgeek.de/puppet-openstack/today
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14:58 openstackgerrit Gael Chamoulaud proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-heat: Fix: use $database_connection_real  https://review.openstack.org/131459
15:10 openstackgerrit A change was merged to stackforge/puppet-horizon: Add ability to configure policy_files_path and policy_files  https://review.openstack.org/130621
15:14 openstackgerrit A change was merged to stackforge/puppet-keystone: Switch to metadata.json for Puppet forge releases  https://review.openstack.org/124579
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15:20 openstackgerrit A change was merged to stackforge/puppet-manila: Switch to metadata.json for Puppet forge releases  https://review.openstack.org/125247
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15:22 EmilienM mgagne: I'm reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131213/ - I also want an eye from you on it when you got time
15:24 mgagne EmilienM: that's why I suggest we remove nova::rabbitmq =)
15:24 EmilienM mgagne: I still wonder where this code should go.
15:25 mgagne EmilienM: extras :P
15:25 mgagne EmilienM: otherwise we are reviewing in puppet-nova stuff that are kind of unrelated to nova itself
15:25 EmilienM mgagne: IMO, we should manage rabbitmq resources (users, vhost, permissions) in openstacklob
15:25 EmilienM lib*
15:26 mgagne EmilienM: ok for rabbitmq ressources
15:26 EmilienM because this is what we do with mysql.
15:26 mgagne true
15:26 EmilienM but I -2 the fact to setup RabbitMQ server in puppet nova
15:26 EmilienM let's install apache also !
15:26 EmilienM seriously, we need to stop that
15:29 mgagne EmilienM: that's my opinion too
15:29 mgagne EmilienM: but we have to propose something else
15:30 EmilienM mgagne: I've let my review in Gerrit.
15:30 openstackgerrit Gael Chamoulaud proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-heat: Fix: use $database_connection_real  https://review.openstack.org/131459
15:31 EmilienM gchamoul: thanks for the test ;-)
15:32 gchamoul EmilienM: you're welcome !
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15:48 openstackgerrit A change was merged to stackforge/puppet-openstack_extras: Switch to metadata.json for Puppet forge releases  https://review.openstack.org/130849
15:49 openstackgerrit A change was merged to stackforge/puppet-openstacklib: Switch to metadata.json for Puppet forge releases  https://review.openstack.org/130848
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16:07 gchamoul mgagne, EmilienM: so what can we do with this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106144/ ? :/
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17:03 openstackgerrit Gael Chamoulaud proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-heat: Deprecate sql_connection in favor of database_connection  https://review.openstack.org/131459
17:04 gchamoul mgagne: ^^^ ;-)
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17:11 hogepodge EmilienM did you see my comments on the lib spec?
17:13 EmilienM hogepodge: yes, do you want me to redo a patchset?
17:13 EmilienM I really want to push some code
17:13 hogepodge EmilienM, no, I was just curios to know how what you thought. that's all. I'm all for pushing code. :-)
17:14 EmilienM hogepodge: thanks, i'm looking forward to send it.
17:14 EmilienM hogepodge: I'm answering right now.
17:16 mgagne gchamoul: small typo
17:17 gchamoul mgagne: oops, good catch ! thx
17:18 openstackgerrit Gael Chamoulaud proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-heat: Deprecate sql_connection in favor of database_connection  https://review.openstack.org/131459
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17:22 EmilienM crinkle: sbadia: I wonder if this page is the one to read https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/PuppetOpenStack
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17:55 EmilienM hogepodge: answered.
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18:08 EmilienM mgagne: this feature in the doc is really cool : http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/config-reference/content/nova-conf-changes-master.html
18:08 EmilienM and you have this for most of core projects
18:08 mgagne EmilienM: awesome!
18:09 mgagne EmilienM: I don't know since when it's available but it's a great idea!
18:09 EmilienM mgagne: I'll push patches for Juno
18:09 mgagne EmilienM: but I think that
18:09 mgagne EmilienM: it's incomplete or misleading
18:10 EmilienM mgagne: i think it auto-generated
18:10 mgagne EmilienM: [cinder]/catalog_info exists already but it's [DEFAULT]/cinder_catalog_info
18:10 EmilienM mgagne: I think everything is DEFAULT/ is deprecated
18:10 EmilienM not everything, sorry But too-specific bits
18:10 mgagne EmilienM: it's not part of Deprecated options
18:11 mgagne EmilienM: maybe someone renamed it but forgot to deprecate it properly
18:11 EmilienM mgagne: i like the New default values section also
18:11 mgagne yep
18:12 mgagne EmilienM: it has been deprecated properly: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/volume/cinder.py#L38-L44
18:12 EmilienM ok
18:16 EmilienM mgagne: gosh, there is a lot of updated.
18:16 EmilienM updates*
18:17 mgagne EmilienM: what I wanted to do for *months* is listing all parameters WE deprecated, in which version, do proper follow up and remove them
18:18 EmilienM mgagne: a big thing in our modules also would be to support key v3
18:18 mgagne yep
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19:03 EmilienM mgagne: hogepodge: let me know if I can go ahead with and start thinking about sending patches.
19:03 hogepodge EmilienM I'm happy for you to go ahead.
19:05 mgagne EmilienM: you shall not send patches, not.
19:05 EmilienM mgagne: ?
19:06 mgagne EmilienM: I allow you to think about sending patches =)
19:06 EmilienM lol
19:07 EmilienM mgagne the joker :P
19:07 mgagne =)
19:07 EmilienM hogepodge: ready to speak french by the way?
19:08 hogepodge EmilienM I fear my french will only enrage Parisians.
19:08 mgagne EmilienM: you gave a great talk at openstack montreal btw
19:08 EmilienM mgagne: thanks! I really appreciated dmsimard' talk also...
19:09 hogepodge EmilienM I'm counting on you to translate for me anyway. :-D
19:09 EmilienM hogepodge: anytime
19:09 mgagne EmilienM: indeed, great tools I didn't know about
19:09 dmsimard EmilienM: Thanks :) Let's get mgagne to do one next time !
19:09 mgagne dammit
19:09 EmilienM mgagne: dmsimard: you won't believe me, but last night I made a nightmare about filesystem in object storage...
19:10 EmilienM and performances around
19:10 dmsimard EmilienM: lol.. I definitely wouldn't run mysql in there.. but I'll do it and benchmark it, for fun
19:10 EmilienM dmsimard: not even MySQL, but like a webserver
19:10 dmsimard eh, as long as the files don't move too much, like static content - it'd be fine I think
19:11 dmsimard Hell, my blog (entirely static) could probably run off of it
19:11 dmsimard since it'd end up being entirely locally cached
19:11 EmilienM dmsimard: I'm using ownCloud for my personal usage, with Swift backend, but ownCloud directly talks in object with Swift :-)
19:12 dmsimard Something that's really interesting is that it automatically chunks file.. like if you edit a 1GB text file, change one line, it doesn't re-upload the whole file, it only uploads like 10MB
19:12 mgagne isn't called an amplification attack? :D 1 line = 10MB
19:13 dmsimard well, 1 line 10MB is better than 1 line 1GB
19:13 mgagne I wouldn't store my rrd files in there then :P
19:13 dmsimard rrd isn't exactly static content
19:13 mgagne =)
19:21 EmilienM mgagne: dmsimard you guys are running ceph in prod?
19:21 dmsimard EmilienM: kinda sort
19:21 dmsimard kinda sorta
19:22 dmsimard EmilienM: Especially for a private cloud infra we have.
19:22 EmilienM dmsimard: glance/nova/cinder?
19:22 dmsimard yeah, the whole thing
19:22 EmilienM nice
19:22 EmilienM icehouse then !
19:23 EmilienM mgagne: another question. How far from master are you in our puppet modules?
19:23 mgagne EmilienM: I'm on stable/icehouse
19:24 EmilienM mgagne: really?
19:24 EmilienM nice
19:24 mgagne EmilienM: ya rly
19:24 EmilienM when I stopped to backport all the patches I wanted in icehouse, that's the point where I started to sync with master every 2 weeks
19:25 mgagne I guess we all want to get there someday
19:25 mgagne but man power is limited
19:25 EmilienM mgagne: here too :-
19:26 EmilienM if only we could have that CI thing soon in stackforge
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19:54 hogepodge pre-summit business, operator etherpad is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-summit-ops-puppet
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19:54 hogepodge If there are topics you'd like to see discussed, that is the place to start listing them.
19:56 EmilienM mhh we have an etherpad somewhere
19:57 EmilienM https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-paris-summit-proposal
20:03 crinkle that's for the design session, there's an ops session too
20:17 EmilienM ah
20:17 EmilienM indeed, thanks crinkle
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21:07 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-nova: Update [neutron] section in nova.conf for Juno  https://review.openstack.org/131566
21:07 EmilienM mgagne: here we go ^
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21:12 mgagne EmilienM: puppet-horizon is not that flexible if you want my opinion ^^'
21:12 EmilienM mgagne: oh I know :)
21:12 mgagne EmilienM: I now have like 4-5 concat fragments
21:13 mgagne EmilienM: I told everyone to use puppet-horizon but now, there is 10+ hacks to make it work the way I want
21:14 mgagne EmilienM: there is too much stuff hard-coded in params
21:14 EmilienM mgagne: happy you realize it now.
21:14 mgagne hahaha
21:16 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-nova: Update [glance] section in nova.conf for Juno  https://review.openstack.org/131572
21:21 EmilienM mgagne: I want to introduce identity_uri in puppet-nova
21:21 EmilienM we have so many ways to configure keystone parameters, I don't know what to deprecate...
21:21 mgagne EmilienM: that would be a good idea I guess
21:21 mgagne haha
21:21 mgagne EmilienM: what's the recommended way and the shipped way (by distro)
21:22 mgagne EmilienM: also, I wrote an URL parser. you provide the uri, the manifest parse the url and uses the parts it needs
21:22 EmilienM mgagne: openstack only needs identity_uri from now...
21:22 EmilienM as you prob know
21:23 mgagne EmilienM: I don't know much tbh :P
21:23 EmilienM mgagne: so now, you can forget about all params except identity_uri
21:23 mgagne :D
21:23 EmilienM ex: https://keystone.mydomain:5000
21:23 EmilienM that's it
21:26 mgagne EmilienM: what do you suggest we do for Horizon?
21:26 EmilienM mgagne: rm -rf
21:26 EmilienM please use "-f" at least
21:27 mgagne :D
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21:27 EmilienM mgagne: at lease continue to use concats
21:28 mgagne EmilienM: that is if you want to still use the provided template
21:28 mgagne otherwise use your own and put whatever you want in it
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21:37 EmilienM hopefully glance does not have many upgrades \o/
21:38 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-glance: Update [glance_store] section in glance config for Juno  https://review.openstack.org/131576
21:41 EmilienM mgagne: if you don't know what to do tonight, have a look at EmilienM
21:41 EmilienM damn
21:41 EmilienM http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/config-reference/content/neutron-conf-changes-master.html
21:41 EmilienM the list is HUGE
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