Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #puppet-openstack, 2015-03-13

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09:45 openstackgerrit Yanis Guenane proposed stackforge/puppet-modulesync-configs: puppet-modulesync-configs: Initial commit  https://review.openstack.org/164125
09:46 openstackgerrit Yanis Guenane proposed stackforge/puppet-modulesync-configs: puppet-modulesync-configs: Initial commit  https://review.openstack.org/164125
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13:04 EmilienM social: what do you think about unit tests in your patch, is it something doable?
13:04 social those are mostly hacks :/ that's questionable
13:04 social I'll try
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13:11 openstackgerrit Merged stackforge/puppet-cinder: backends: Add an extra_options door  https://review.openstack.org/163365
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13:29 EmilienM the big question for today:
13:29 EmilienM ensure_package or package_ensure ?
13:29 EmilienM (it's not consistent in our modules)
13:29 EmilienM I'll say #1
13:30 sbadia I vote for ensure_package (like stdlib method) no?
13:30 sbadia (hi)
13:31 EmilienM yeah
13:32 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed stackforge/puppet-tuskar: Add UI support (+ UI extras)  https://review.openstack.org/164174
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13:46 EmilienM sbadia: I'm looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1431635
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14:08 openstackgerrit Dan Prince proposed stackforge/puppet-tripleo: loadbalancer: document required parameters  https://review.openstack.org/164181
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14:14 openstackgerrit Matt Fischer proposed stackforge/puppet-keystone: WIP DONT MERGE DONT MERGE DONT MERGE  https://review.openstack.org/164185
14:15 mfisch Sorry for that was meant to test Jenkins in our internal repo^^^^
14:18 EmilienM mfisch: I think your title is explicit enough.
14:18 EmilienM mfisch: I'll +2
14:18 mfisch lol
14:18 EmilienM mfisch: can you add an unit test?
14:18 mfisch yeah dvorak needs a +2 also
14:18 dvorak I've been looking for something to +2!
14:19 EmilienM lol
14:19 mfisch trying out some new jenkins jobs changes here for catalog diffs
14:19 EmilienM dvorak: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164174/
14:19 mfisch Welcome to +2ness dvorak
14:26 dvorak EmilienM: is everything moving to ensure_package vs package_ensure?  I thought everything but nova already used package_ensure?
14:29 social EmilienM: I don't think I'll have tests for those patches :/
14:30 gchamoul dvorak: I know that is not consistent with the rest of the modules, but I would prefer to move all package_ensure to ensure_package...
14:31 dvorak in that module, or across all modules?
14:31 dvorak oh, I just saw the discussion in scrollback, sorry
14:32 dvorak I'd prefer to do package_ensure, just because we use it internally already and I think almost everything is already package_ensure
14:33 gchamoul dvorak: across all modules... but It's just my own opinion ;-)
14:34 dvorak nova is the only module I know of that's using ensure_package
14:41 gchamoul dvorak: nope we have ensure_package for puppet-[trove|glance|ceilometer​|gnocchi|neutron|tempest|swift]
14:43 dvorak neutron is package_ensure
14:43 dvorak glance is package_ensure
14:44 gchamoul dvorak: yes sorry ... my regexp was bad ... :S
14:44 dvorak and ceilometer.  we don't use the others
14:44 dvorak Is anyone using this other than us? :)
14:45 gchamoul it caught the ensure_packages function from stdlib ...
14:46 bogdando please take a look https://tickets.puppetlabs.com/browse/MODULES-1852
14:47 gchamoul dvorak: well in fact, it's only nova,trove and gnocchi using ensure_package
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14:53 EmilienM dvorak: I think we should go for ensure_package (like stdlib method)
14:54 EmilienM sbadia: ^
14:55 mgagne I think it should be package_ensure :D
14:56 mgagne The reason is that once you want to manage other package property like provider, you end up with provider_package instead of package_provider as parameter name
14:56 mgagne and ensure_package() is a method describing an action, not a state (unlike a parameter)
14:57 dvorak also, I don't think ensure_package is a good idea anyway, since it's parse order dependent
14:59 sbadia make sens indeed (for mgagne remark)
15:01 gchamoul so we need to change manage_service by service_manage! :-P
15:01 EmilienM damn...
15:01 * gchamoul is kidding!
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15:01 gchamoul oh guys it's friday!!!!! :D
15:02 sbadia :D
15:03 gchamoul sbadia: I noted that you were not agree with me ... we will fix it Monday :-PPPP
15:03 dvorak friday the 13th even
15:03 mgagne well, that's my opinion. we have to consider the impact on new similar parameter names
15:03 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed stackforge/puppet-tuskar: Add UI support (+ UI extras)  https://review.openstack.org/164174
15:03 EmilienM mgagne: dvorak ^
15:03 EmilienM package_ensure is here
15:04 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed stackforge/puppet-tuskar: Add UI support (+ UI extras)  https://review.openstack.org/164174
15:06 gchamoul guys! I would really like to see that all the rspec3=>4 and puppet-lint for puppet 4.x MERGED!!!!!
15:07 gchamoul mgagne, mfisch, crinkle, dvorak: ^^^^^
15:07 mgagne gchamoul: I can take a look
15:08 gchamoul just need a W+1 ...
15:08 mgagne I need to understand with I'm approving :P
15:08 mgagne what*
15:08 sbadia gchamoul: I'll submit my waiting patchs about this
15:09 gchamoul sbadia: yes I need to update the trello cards !
15:09 sbadia yep indeed
15:09 sbadia let's go
15:09 mgagne gchamoul: is this the right construct for exception? it { expect { is_expected.to raise_error(Puppet::Error) } }
15:10 mgagne gchamoul: it doesn't read that well
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15:12 mfisch Which review specifically?
15:12 mgagne puppet-trove
15:12 mgagne https://review.openstack.org/#/c/1589​73/2/spec/classes/trove_db_mysql_spec.rb
15:13 mgagne it { is_expected.to raise_error(Puppet::Error) }
15:13 mgagne this works on my side and reads better
15:14 gchamoul yes I am agree ... on puppet-gnocchi as well
15:14 sbadia the goal of this patch is only to prepare migration for rspec3
15:14 sbadia should is a depreacted keyword in 3.x
15:14 mgagne sbadia: is it only to fix warnings or improve it by the mean of better syntax?
15:15 sbadia indeed, we can also refactor all the spec tests (use shared example everywhere)
15:15 mgagne I'm not suggesting a major refactor
15:15 sbadia yep fix warnings
15:15 mgagne if we are doing a sed, we better make sure it still make sense
15:15 sbadia but rspec-puppet now pin rspec to 2.99
15:15 sbadia :s
15:16 mgagne or I can fix it later
15:16 mgagne sbadia: looks like it's more than a sed: Use shared_examples "a Puppet::Error" for puppet::error tests
15:16 sbadia later ? do you mean another patch ?
15:16 mgagne sbadia: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158316/
15:17 sbadia yep agree for this patch
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15:23 mgagne gchamoul: was there only 3 patches pending merge?
15:24 openstackgerrit Merged stackforge/puppet-cinder: spec: updates for rspec-puppet 2.x and rspec 3.x  https://review.openstack.org/158316
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15:25 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed stackforge/puppet-tuskar: Add UI support (+ UI extras)  https://review.openstack.org/164174
15:26 sbadia mgagne: if you have some time :) https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:"Sebastien+Badia"+status:open,n,z
15:26 mgagne sbadia: I guess the only dashboard link I had doesn't have all those new projects
15:26 sbadia mgagne: yep gael just send a patch to gerrit-dash-creator
15:28 sbadia ah! you already +1 the patch, ok sorry… https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163550/
15:31 openstackgerrit Merged stackforge/puppet-ceilometer: spec: updates for rspec-puppet 2.x and rspec 3.x  https://review.openstack.org/158232
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15:45 openstackgerrit Matt Fischer proposed stackforge/puppet-cinder: Support identity_uri and auth_uri properly.  https://review.openstack.org/161964
15:49 gchamoul :D
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16:09 gchamoul mgagne, sbadia:http://goo.gl/sNGQR1
16:10 mgagne I need a bigger screen or start using it vertically
16:14 gchamoul mgagne, EmilienM: this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160402/ should be easy to review and merge ASAP, I guess!
16:17 gchamoul dvorak: ^^^ now that you're God! ;-)
16:17 openstackgerrit Merged stackforge/puppet-keystone: Clean up keystone provider methods and tests  https://review.openstack.org/158105
16:20 openstackgerrit Merged stackforge/puppet-keystone: Enable setting the revoke/token driver.  https://review.openstack.org/160402
16:23 gchamoul sbadia: thx!
16:23 openstackgerrit Merged stackforge/puppet-glance: Command parameter to sync the correct Database  https://review.openstack.org/158277
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16:30 openstackgerrit Merged stackforge/puppet-keystone: deprecated parameter cleanup  https://review.openstack.org/160144
16:30 openstackgerrit Merged stackforge/puppet-swift: Add manage_service feature  https://review.openstack.org/156969
16:30 gchamoul sbadia: can I bother you again? ;-) https://review.openstack.org/164181
16:31 openstackgerrit Merged stackforge/puppet-heat: Add manage_service feature  https://review.openstack.org/156965
16:33 sbadia gchamoul: ack, yep
16:34 gchamoul Guys, what do you think to create some regularly Reviews Triage day?
16:35 sbadia gchamoul: +1
16:35 sbadia gchamoul: maybe you can add this subject to monday meeting
16:35 sbadia the agenda is on the wiki page
16:35 gchamoul ack
16:38 openstackgerrit Merged stackforge/puppet-tripleo: loadbalancer: document required parameters  https://review.openstack.org/164181
16:42 gchamoul sbadia: done!
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17:07 openstackgerrit Bradley Klein proposed stackforge/puppet-monasca: Influxdb RC11 has a minimum 1h retention policy  https://review.openstack.org/164265
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18:01 kbringard hey guys, quick question about the ceilometer manifests
18:01 kbringard I don't see support anywhere for customizing the pipeline.yaml… am I just missing something, or is that the case?
18:10 mgagne kbringard: I use a file resource to manage mine. the content can rapidly get complex. I don't see the plus value of having its content managed by Puppet via yet another DSL.
18:12 EmilienM mfisch: dvorak crinkle: hey, do you mind we prepare our agenda today?
18:13 EmilienM for the next meeting
18:13 mfisch we need to
18:13 dvorak yeah, makes sense
18:13 crinkle yes
18:13 EmilienM https://etherpad.openstack.org/​p/puppet-meeting-agenda-march16
18:13 mfisch I think item #1 needs to be whether to make a project
18:13 dvorak I don't think we could possibly cover everything that came up at the meetup
18:14 mfisch I had a large list ;)
18:16 EmilienM crinkle: are you green?
18:17 crinkle EmilienM: yes
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18:21 EmilienM mfisch: by "review groups", do you mean adding more core in our team who are not puppet specialist, but keystone experts ? (for puppet keystone)
18:23 crinkle i don't think necessarily cores, but just some database of people who are specialists on certain things
18:23 EmilienM ok
18:24 stevemar trouble is finding a keystone person that speaks ruby :)
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18:25 crinkle well, the "specialists" would be mostly be puppet people :P
18:25 EmilienM yeah
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18:27 EmilienM crinkle: except release cycle, what else can you see in eventual questions?
18:28 crinkle EmilienM: that's just it, I'm not sure what questions to ask
18:28 crinkle I know my company is wondering what implications there are for us
18:29 crinkle and I don't really know what to tell them except not to worry about it
18:29 EmilienM lol
18:29 EmilienM "don't worry"
18:29 EmilienM "it's gonna be okay"
18:29 crinkle hehe
18:30 EmilienM crinkle: look my new questions, and feel free to answer/update/drop
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18:32 mfisch sorry guys but crinkle said it best
18:32 mfisch just people who knew puppet-neutron really well could be auto-added to the review
18:33 EmilienM yeah
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18:34 EmilienM crinkle: also, do we move puppet-ceph?
18:35 crinkle ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
18:35 EmilienM crinkle: it would be the longest meeting ever
18:36 EmilienM in Puppet OpenStack History
18:36 EmilienM our kids will talk about it
18:36 EmilienM I'm not sure about video though
18:36 EmilienM would it be replacing IRC ?
18:37 EmilienM dvorak: what do you mean bu change/bug review? do you  mean bugfix days?
18:38 mgagne I prefer IRC meeting. You get free notes without the need for someone to write down notes after or during the video.
18:38 EmilienM +1
18:38 dvorak it came up at the operator meetup that it might be useful to do something like what puppet labs for for weekly bug/PR
18:38 EmilienM dvorak: yeah, like some other projects do in OpenStack
18:38 EmilienM they fix all bugs in a day
18:38 dvorak it could be as time allows at the end of the meeting or separate
18:38 mgagne fix all bugs? :O
18:39 EmilienM mgagne: fix the world.
18:39 EmilienM mgagne: we would need you BTW
18:39 mgagne to fix them all?
18:39 EmilienM yeah
18:39 dvorak EmilienM: I thought more to give people to bring up outstanding reviews also that could use some attention
18:40 dvorak people could put on the agenda specific reviews they wanted to talk about even.
18:40 EmilienM dvorak: it makes sense, but this kind of thing is usually done during weekly meetings on IRC
18:40 mgagne We should invest in better CI where all 8945 combinations are tested in one go. only downside is that it will take jenkins 4 weeks to report back on success or not.
18:45 crinkle the hangouts idea was in addition to IRC meetings, so it'd be a time when new people can talk face to face with someone and screenshare so we can help with gerrit derp
18:45 EmilienM that's sound a very good idea
18:46 * crinkle -> afk for lunch
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19:26 openstackgerrit Merged stackforge/puppet-monasca: Influxdb RC11 has a minimum 1h retention policy  https://review.openstack.org/164265
19:29 kbringard mgagne: makes sense. I guess I was more asking if there was anything already in the stuff to handle that specific file, but it makes sense to just drop it in place
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19:53 imcsk8 EmilienM: do you have an example on how to handle deprecated parameters?
20:15 openstackgerrit Dan Prince proposed stackforge/puppet-tripleo: loadbalancer: add validations on required params  https://review.openstack.org/164332
20:24 openstackgerrit Ivan Chavero proposed stackforge/puppet-nova: Support allow_start and allow_end parameters  https://review.openstack.org/135123
20:26 dprince mfisch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163844/
20:26 dprince mfisch: swift was a bit different (always is)
20:35 imcsk8 EmilienM, social, fvollero could you take a look to this review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135123
20:35 EmilienM imcsk8: looking
20:36 EmilienM imcsk8: to deprecate, you need to support old parameters, I can find an example if needed
20:37 EmilienM nova-network? seriously? :)
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20:48 dprince EmilienM: nova-network still has its niche
20:49 dontalton i still use nova-network :D
20:49 EmilienM it does make sense for some use-cases
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21:15 crinkle EmilienM: should i update https://wiki.openstack.org/w​iki/Meetings/PuppetOpenStack with bullet points from https://etherpad.openstack.org/​p/puppet-meeting-agenda-march16 ?
21:15 crinkle or maybe just link it
21:16 EmilienM crinkle: +1 for update with bullets
21:16 EmilienM thanks for doing this
21:29 mdorman crinkle:   your email re: meeting says 1500 UTC, the wiki says 1300 UTC for 3/16 meeting, but the regular meeting time is listed as 1400 UTC.  I think 1500 is the correct one right?
21:29 crinkle i thought it was 1500
21:30 crinkle o.0
21:30 mdorman i am pretty sure it’s 1500 also
21:31 mdorman b/c that would make it 8am mountain/7am pacific for us now b/c of DST change
21:31 crinkle EmilienM: ^ do you know anything?
21:31 crinkle yeah
21:31 mdorman i can update the wiki since i’m there anyway if we agree it’s 1500
21:32 EmilienM crinkle: you lost me
21:33 EmilienM crinkle: I thought it was 1500 too
21:33 mdorman what is the proper meeting time
21:33 mdorman yeah i’m going with 1500
21:34 EmilienM because of DST it's 10am for me
21:34 EmilienM instead of 9am
21:34 mdorman yup
21:34 mdorman tl;dr; time zones and dst are hard
21:34 EmilienM and make tire me
21:35 mdorman i updated the wiki
21:35 nibalizer 7am pacific -_-
21:35 EmilienM mdorman: thx
21:35 EmilienM nibalizer: lol so... can we count on you ? lol
21:35 nibalizer oh maybe thats better than 6am
21:35 nibalizer i should keep up
21:35 nibalizer EmilienM: maybe if i've been up all night lol
21:35 EmilienM ahah
21:35 mdorman i was thinking we were going backwards, too, so 6am for me.  yeah going forward is much better
21:37 crinkle well changing the meeting time is on the agenda
21:37 crinkle just to make it more confusing
21:38 mdorman actually i think maybe 1400 was the correct time.  1500 would be 8am pacific, not 7, i think.  and we didn’t move two hours forward.
21:39 crinkle http://www.timebie.com/timezone/utcpst.php
21:40 mdorman right but right now we’re on daylight time, not standard time
21:40 crinkle er
21:40 crinkle huh you're right
21:40 mdorman this stuff drives me crazy
21:41 Hunner Hence trying to use UTC :)
21:41 mdorman +1
21:41 crinkle oh and i even have an email from myself reminding people it's 1400
21:41 crinkle lol
21:42 mdorman yeah so the original regualr meeting time in the wiki was correct.  i changed all that stuff back to 1400
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21:52 EmilienM I like the idea of nibalizer (staying awake all the night) so you don't miss the meeting.
21:53 nibalizer such dedication
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23:36 imcsk8 EmilienM: hehehe they asked for the options
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