Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #puppet-openstack, 2015-07-16

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00:06 openstackgerrit Ivan Chavero proposed openstack/puppet-nova: Support allow_start and allow_end parameters  https://review.openstack.org/135123
00:06 imcsk8 crinkle: are you around? can you take a look to: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135123/
00:17 gildub richm, hi - re keystone_provider, openstackclient suports names AND IDs, so I don't really understand your comment
00:22 richm gildub: ok
00:22 richm was just wondering because the spec file uses ids
00:22 gildub richm, ah yeah, fair enough, I'll replace them with name then.
00:22 gildub names
00:26 gildub richm, Also I'm happy to add a proper manifest use example but I'm not sure were that should go
00:30 richm gildub: See my latest comment
00:30 richm in the review
00:32 gildub richm, ok
00:35 gildub richm, the id is the name
00:35 gildub richm, The name gets replaced with the id, so once created the id is the name to use for manipulating existing resource.
00:37 gildub richm, I initially tried using combos such as trustor_user/trustee_user/project but that's really bad, the thing here there is no legacy burden, so better just use the id, which guarantee uniqueness of the resource
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00:42 richm gildub: ok - so I use keystone_trust { 'some random name': ...} for the first manifest run - it creates the trust with some ID
00:42 gildub richm, correct
00:42 richm gildub: Then I run the manifest again, exactly the same as before with keystone_trust { 'some random name': ... }
00:43 richm gildub: and it should find the existing trust and not do anything
00:43 richm gildub: because one of the most important features of puppet is that it is idempotent
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00:43 richm gildub: how does the code in self.instances and self.prefetch know that keystone_trust { 'some random name': ... }  refers to the existing trust?
00:43 gildub richm, yeah, I know about idempotency
00:44 richm Are you saying that I have to look up the IDs and change my manifests to use the ID instead of the names?
00:44 openstackgerrit Ivan Chavero proposed openstack/puppet-nova: Support allow_start and allow_end parameters  https://review.openstack.org/135123
00:45 gildub richm, the second time one runs the resource, one will have to use the id
00:45 gildub richm, because trusts are not limited to one per project/trustor/trustee tuples
00:45 richm I think that's a non-starter, but I'm willing to be proven wrong by some of our operators/manifest writers
00:46 gildub richm, I know what you're talking :)
00:46 gildub richm, trusts cannot be changed anyway
00:46 gildub richm, by design
00:47 richm I'm not talking about changing them
00:47 richm I'm talking about finding one and knowing that it is the one specified in the manifest
00:47 richm and not trying to create another one
00:48 richm maybe the name doesn't matter, and self.prefetch should instead match on _all_ of the fields?
00:49 gildub richm, openstack trust create --role admin --project openstackv3 --impersonate --expiration 2016-01-01T0:0:0 adminv3 foo --format shell
00:49 richm that is, self.prefetch will determine that the trust specified in the manifest matches the trust returned by the trust list because the trustor matches, the trustee matches, the project matches, etc.
00:49 gildub richm, everytime you run ^ it will create a new trust, now we can associate a name, whatever the user provides and associate to it
00:51 richm yes, I get that 1) trusts have no name parameter 2) it will keep creating the trust over and over again
00:52 gildub richm, ok, so the user provide some name and we associate it with the trust
00:52 richm gildub: how?  There's no field in the db for the name?
00:52 gildub richm, and no description either
00:52 richm so no place to store a name
00:52 richm so we can't rely on name
00:53 richm so we need to rely on what we have
00:53 richm which is the project, trustor, trustee, etc. other fields
00:53 gildub richm, and the date and the impersonate flag
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00:53 gildub richm, and we take the first one in the short list
00:54 richm whatever other fields we can use to uniquely identify and match the trust returned from the trust list command, with what the user specified in the manifest
00:54 gildub richm, there is no way to uniquely identify a trust besides its ID
00:55 gildub richm, now that said it doesn't really matter as long as there is at least one trust to use
00:56 gildub richm, so the first valid trust that shows up will win the resource slot
00:57 richm how do you determine if a trust is valid?
00:57 gildub richm, same project/trustor_user/trustee_user triple and date
00:58 richm ok
00:58 gildub richm, viva Puppet!
00:58 richm I think that should work
00:59 gildub richm, we don't much choice
00:59 gildub richm, we don't have much choice
01:01 richm right
01:01 gildub richm, so basically that means even though in keystone there could be many trusts (for same triple project/trustor/trustee and a given date and flag) there could be only one in puppet
01:02 richm right - and then either 1) users will have to manage more complex scenarios outside of puppet or 2) there will be a need to add some sort of name field to the keystone db for trusts
01:03 gildub richm, ack
01:03 gildub richm, shall we push for 2) right away?
01:05 richm gildub: sure
01:06 gildub richm, ok
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01:23 richm chem: ping - have you started working on any of the v3 related tasks?
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01:47 Topic for #puppet-openstack is now Puppet/OpenStack http://irclog.perlgeek.de/puppet-openstack/today - Weekly meeting (every Tuesday 13:00 UTC): https://wiki.openstack.org/w​iki/Meetings/PuppetOpenStack - On going efforts: https://trello.com/puppetopenstack
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04:09 openstackgerrit Matthew Treinish proposed openstack/puppet-keystone: acceptance: validate Keystone with Tempest  https://review.openstack.org/198561
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04:28 openstackgerrit Sergii Golovatiuk proposed openstack/puppet-horizon: Add cache_backend and cache_options params  https://review.openstack.org/190548
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07:02 openstackgerrit Gilles Dubreuil proposed openstack/puppet-keystone: Resource keystone_group for Keystone V3 API  https://review.openstack.org/202409
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07:10 openstackgerrit Gilles Dubreuil proposed openstack/puppet-keystone: Resource keystone_group for Keystone V3 API  https://review.openstack.org/202409
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07:17 ashestakov review pls https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202215
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10:30 openstackgerrit Yanis Guenane proposed openstack/puppet-openstacklib: Add a proxy inifile provider  https://review.openstack.org/202488
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10:58 rcarrillocruz nm
10:59 rcarrillocruz spotted the problem
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11:10 openstackgerrit Ricardo Carrillo Cruz proposed openstack/puppet-ironic: Add bifrost manifest  https://review.openstack.org/202025
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11:43 openstackgerrit Ricardo Carrillo Cruz proposed openstack/puppet-ironic: Add bifrost manifest  https://review.openstack.org/202025
11:45 openstackgerrit Yanis Guenane proposed openstack/puppet-keystone: Reflect provider change in openstacklib  https://review.openstack.org/202513
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13:57 openstackgerrit Yanis Guenane proposed openstack/puppet-openstacklib: Add a proxy inifile provider  https://review.openstack.org/202488
13:57 openstackgerrit Yanis Guenane proposed openstack/puppet-openstacklib: Allow the use of an ensure_absent_val param  https://review.openstack.org/202574
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14:00 openstackgerrit Yanis Guenane proposed openstack/puppet-keystone: Reflect provider change in openstacklib  https://review.openstack.org/202513
14:11 clayton spredzy: nice
14:11 spredzy clayton, :)
14:11 clayton having a base provider in openstacklib will also allow moving some of the boilerplate like the section parsing into the shared code, I like that
14:12 spredzy yup, only the hardcoded file path remains in the various base provider
14:13 clayton spredzy: is value a required parameter in the upstream inifile type?
14:14 clayton I was wondering the other day (and this is probably me missing something), but if we pass undef in as value, it looks like value isn't set right?
14:14 spredzy if we pass undef as a vlue basically nothing happens
14:14 spredzy neither it writes or unset the value
14:14 spredzy it mainly does nothing based on my test and understanding
14:14 clayton couldn't we change the behavior so that if value is not set it acts as if ensure => absent?
14:15 clayton preventing the need to have a magic value?
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14:17 spredzy I think that undef is treated a a different citizen
14:17 spredzy thus we wouldn't be able to manipulate the param value if it is undef
14:17 spredzy not even to to a test if undef then
14:18 spredzy we'll need to confirm with PL guys Hunner _ody
14:18 clayton my recollection is that it just shows up as if the paramter is not set at all
14:18 clayton ie, I think in the ruby code you get nil when you refer to an unset param or if it's set to undef
14:21 * spredzy tries
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14:30 richm clayton: or the empty string ''
14:30 richm iirc a value in puppet of undef is passed into a ruby function as ''
14:31 clayton it seems reasonable to me that not setting value, setting it to undef or '' is the same as setting the config item to absent
14:31 clayton or at least it's a convention we could live with
14:31 clayton and less gross than a magic string
14:31 richm I can't think of anything in keystone which has a valid value of ''
14:32 clayton richm: probably not, since the existing provider cant' set it anyway
14:32 richm right
14:32 richm just to be safe, I had code like this:
14:33 richm val = nil if [nil, :undef, :undefined, ''].include?(val)
14:33 richm where val is the value passed in from puppet to ruby
14:33 clayton that's pretty horrible but I understand why you did that :)
14:33 richm I figured that should catch all possible "undef" style values
14:33 richm yeah, ugly for sure
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14:44 spredzy clayton, so I can deal with '' but set to undef I am not sure through which call it goes
14:44 spredzy can't see to capture it
14:45 clayton doesn't it just look like the param isn't set at all?
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14:54 spredzy clayton, so when puting puts in all function of the main provider (exists?, create,value,value=) when set to undef it doesn't show in any but exists?
14:54 spredzy so what I am trying to say is thaat I cant't seem to find where I could actually make the tests, see what I mean ?
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15:38 openstackgerrit Benedikt von St. Vieth proposed openstack/puppet-nova: Allow to disable openstackocci installation via pip  https://review.openstack.org/194977
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15:52 spredzy Hunner, if I pass a value of undef to an ini_setting provider would you know where in the provider I can 'check' the value of the 'value' parameter and take action based on its value ?
15:53 Hunner spredzy: I think passing undef is the same as not passing a value
15:53 Hunner At least on puppet 4
15:54 spredzy Hunner, ack. Can it be checked somewhere and act upon ? I did put 'puts' to see where it was going through in https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-inifile/b​lob/master/lib/puppet/provider/ini_setting/ruby.rb but except the exists? method it didn't get into any
15:55 Hunner Also on puppet 4: `puppet apply -e 'class foo($bar="hi"){notify{$bar:}​}class{"foo":bar=>undef,}'`
15:56 Hunner prints hi
15:56 Hunner err, "at least on puppet 3"
15:56 Hunner You might be able to search the catalog for the resource and ask for .original_parameters, but I think even that will only show the defaults
15:58 spredzy Ok... well it seems then hard to determine if the parameter was set to undef within the provider :/
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16:01 crinkle it looks to me like it just gives nil if there was no parameter passed, or the default value if the type property had a default
16:03 spredzy crinkle, what I have a hard time finding out is how I can detect this nil from the provider side ? in which method call ?
16:08 Hunner spredzy: I usually have `false`
16:08 Hunner be the undef value
16:08 Hunner for users
16:09 spredzy Hunner, issue here for the ini_file provider is that false can be a valid value
16:09 spredzy I guess I can go with '' (empty string) instead of 'nil' as the undef value /cc clayton
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16:15 Hunner '' should work
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16:26 openstackgerrit Yanis Guenane proposed openstack/puppet-openstacklib: Allow to ensure absent a config when value set to empty string  https://review.openstack.org/202574
16:28 openstackgerrit Yanis Guenane proposed openstack/puppet-keystone: Reflect provider change in openstacklib  https://review.openstack.org/202513
16:29 spredzy Hunner, thx
16:37 openstackgerrit Athlan-Guyot sofer proposed openstack/puppet-keystone: Resource keystone_identity_provider for Keystone.  https://review.openstack.org/202689
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18:13 pabelanger mattymo, you need a better IRC proxy :)
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18:30 Hunner lol
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18:31 openstackgerrit Ivan Chavero proposed openstack/puppet-nova: Support allow_start and allow_end parameters  https://review.openstack.org/135123
18:31 imcsk8 crinkle: i've modified the commit msg on this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135123/7 can you take a look?
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19:05 ashestakov hello
19:05 ashestakov review pls https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202215/
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21:10 openstackgerrit Ivan Berezovskiy proposed openstack/puppet-nova: Add nameservers (dns) parameters  https://review.openstack.org/202788
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21:36 gfidente for those around
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21:36 gfidente I'd like to manage catalog_info setting
21:37 gfidente anyone started doing some work around that?
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21:43 bodepd is there some known magic to get the new providers to work with ssl endpoints for keystone?
21:43 bodepd returned 1: ERROR: openstack SSL exception connecting to https://keystone.service.consul:35357/v3/services
21:44 bodepd sorry, nm, totally specific to my env...
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21:49 bodepd it just works as long as the certs are correct :) !!!
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23:26 colby_ Hello everyone we just upgrade to the new kilo release of the puppet modules and we are seeing an error when applying to the systems: Error: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Error 400 on SERVER: Could not autoload puppet/type/keystone_tenant: interning empty string on node openstack-controller1.sdsc.edu
23:27 colby_ has anyone see any errors like this. I have not been able to track down what the issue is.
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