Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #puppet-openstack, 2015-09-28

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00:23 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration: scenario001: enable orchestration service  https://review.openstack.org/227084
00:23 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration: scenario001: use Default as Keystone default domain  https://review.openstack.org/228277
00:24 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration: CI test  https://review.openstack.org/228278
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00:48 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration: scenario001: enable orchestration service  https://review.openstack.org/227084
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08:54 openstackgerrit Ricardo Carrillo Cruz proposed openstack/puppet-ironic: Allow passing the whole contents of bifrost_global_vars  https://review.openstack.org/222914
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09:47 rcarrillocruz degorenko: hi, i addressed your comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222914/ , thx
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09:50 degorenko rcarrillocruz, hi, ok, will look
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10:57 openstackgerrit Stanislaw Bogatkin proposed openstack/puppet-cinder: Remove keystone directives from api-paste file  https://review.openstack.org/228395
11:18 openstackgerrit Sergey Kolekonov proposed openstack/puppet-neutron: Add retries to nova_admin_tenant_id_setter  https://review.openstack.org/194673
11:21 openstackgerrit Stanislaw Bogatkin proposed openstack/puppet-cinder: Remove keystone directives from api-paste file  https://review.openstack.org/228395
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11:45 EmilienM good morning
11:45 openstackgerrit Gilles Dubreuil proposed openstack/puppet-keystone: Replace indirection calls  https://review.openstack.org/226624
11:49 degorenko hello :)
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12:24 iurygregory good morning people o/
12:25 degorenko hey o/
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13:11 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration: scenario001: enable object service  https://review.openstack.org/228450
13:12 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration: scenario001: enable object service  https://review.openstack.org/228450
13:13 EmilienM mgagne: see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228395/
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13:52 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-swift: remove POSIX users, groups and file modes  https://review.openstack.org/228462
13:53 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration: scenario001: enable object service  https://review.openstack.org/228450
13:54 openstackgerrit Nathaniel proposed openstack/puppet-neutron: Simplify rpc_backend parameter  https://review.openstack.org/227994
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14:01 dmsimard EmilienM, dgurtner, xarses, dachary: Let's chat about puppet-ceph soon - I'm trying to get some opinions for the time being
14:01 dachary dmsimard: I'm here :-)
14:01 xarses yep
14:06 xarses what are we opinion-ating on moving to big tent?
14:06 xarses / puppet-openstack
14:07 dmsimard xarses: yeah
14:08 dmsimard So far people are raising questions about the ownership of the project
14:08 dmsimard a.k.a, what it really means to move puppet-ceph to /openstack
14:09 dmsimard hogepodge: is there any governance or documentation about what it really means for a repo to live in /openstack ?
14:09 xarses mostly its about following the 4 opens
14:10 xarses and following openstack governance convention
14:10 dgurtner I guess one interesting question is if this means future conrtibutions will require signing of the ICLA and CCLA where applicable
14:10 xarses including the tc
14:11 dmsimard yeah I think now we don't enforce CLA right
14:12 dmsimard puppet-openstack most likely does
14:14 dmsimard We see pull requests on puppet-ceph on github from time to time and it's really rare that they'll end up sending a review in
14:14 dmsimard Even though dgurtner and I have been trying to help
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14:19 dmsimard dachary: what do you think ? :)
14:19 EmilienM I'm ok with that
14:19 EmilienM that will require some work probably
14:19 EmilienM but not much
14:19 dmsimard EmilienM: what are you ok with ?
14:20 EmilienM dmsimard: having puppet-ceph under Puppet OpenStack modules project
14:20 dmsimard EmilienM: yeah of course you welcome it with open arms :P
14:20 dmsimard but we haven't decided yet if we're moving puppet-ceph to the big tent
14:20 EmilienM we already have puppet-vswitch
14:21 EmilienM dmsimard: sure, but as a module contributor I give my thought, which is +1
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14:24 openstackgerrit Alexey Deryugin proposed openstack/puppet-murano: MySQL and PostreSQL class implementation  https://review.openstack.org/218221
14:24 openstackgerrit Alexey Deryugin proposed openstack/puppet-murano: Keystone auth class implementation  https://review.openstack.org/218234
14:24 mfisch EmilienM: I'm here, what did you want to talk about?
14:24 openstackgerrit Alexey Deryugin proposed openstack/puppet-murano: RabbitMQ class implementation  https://review.openstack.org/218288
14:24 EmilienM mfisch: me? nothing much
14:24 dgurtner dmsimard: given that we already turn contributors away with gerrit I'm wondering if openstack/ would actually making things worse?
14:25 openstackgerrit Alexey Deryugin proposed openstack/puppet-murano: Client and dashboard class implementation  https://review.openstack.org/218333
14:25 openstackgerrit Alexey Deryugin proposed openstack/puppet-murano: Application resource implementation  https://review.openstack.org/220238
14:25 dgurtner dmsimard: on the other hand if we did the opposite and moved somewhere without gerrit we would probably get more contributors - but would loose gerrit
14:26 dmsimard dgurtner: That's what I fear too but at the same time there isn't much activity on the fully opened one: https://github.com/redhat-ci​p/puppet-ceph/commits/master
14:27 mfisch EmilienM: something about big tent?
14:27 dgurtner dmsimard: but the redhat-cip is EOL afaik. EmilienM ?
14:27 EmilienM dgurtner: puppet-ceph from eNovance is EOL for a long time.
14:27 EmilienM we're using the stackforge module for a while
14:28 dgurtner EmilienM: in rdo-manager, yes. just not sure if there are other places ;)
14:28 EmilienM this is out of context anyway
14:28 EmilienM anyone is free to have their own puppet-ceph module if they want to
14:29 EmilienM the question is: moving puppet-ceph to the big tent - Y/n
14:29 dmsimard I would love to have dtag on board, they're still maintaining their branch: https://github.com/TelekomCloud​/puppet-ceph/tree/rc/eisbrecher
14:29 dmsimard I'll try and ask dalgaaf next time I see him
14:30 EmilienM dmsimard: it's weird people using forks.
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14:31 dmsimard alfredo gave me this link, lots of discussino in it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192016/
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14:32 xarses my only reservation is that if somehow it takes us further away from ceph proper. Seeing that we are already in with stackforge and gerrit, I'm not sure how that matters
14:37 dmsimard I think we're not going to solve this here, I'll open a thread in openstack-dev and ceph-dev
14:37 dmsimard Got enough topics and info to start some discussion
14:38 dachary dmsimard: I'm in favor of moving under the big tent
14:39 dachary dmsimard: there are concerns but overall that seems to be the right thing to do
14:39 xarses dachary: +1
14:40 dmsimard I am also in favor of moving to the big tent, fwiw
14:40 dachary looks like we have a consensus :-)
14:40 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-swift: remove POSIX users, groups and file modes  https://review.openstack.org/228462
14:41 dgurtner +1
14:41 EmilienM cool
14:41 dmsimard I feel it'd be safe to let the community know, though
14:41 EmilienM xarses: I don't remember, is fuel using it?
14:42 xarses no, but a team is supposed to be working on that for the fuel 8 cycle
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14:42 EmilienM xarses: you're running a custom module?
14:43 xarses yes, based on ceph-deplpy =(
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14:43 dmsimard shame shame shame *ding ding ding*
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14:45 xarses yep
14:45 EmilienM it's okay to run a custom module
14:45 EmilienM if your roadmap is upstream
14:46 openstackgerrit Merged stackforge/puppet-ceph: Switch to new release key  https://review.openstack.org/226932
14:46 EmilienM we need to gather feedback from the cmmunity to know if stackforge/puppet-ceph is widely used (I think it is)
14:46 xarses no the shame is from using ceph-deploy
14:46 EmilienM lol
14:46 EmilienM indeed :P
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14:48 dmsimard EmilienM: I'm starting a thread now
14:48 EmilienM dfisher: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228462/
14:48 EmilienM dfisher: I'm starting my week by puppet-swift, I'm crazy, uh?
14:49 EmilienM dmsimard: k
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15:24 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-swift: Fix swift.conf / Swift_config ordering  https://review.openstack.org/228495
15:24 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration: scenario001: enable object service  https://review.openstack.org/228450
15:25 openstackgerrit Nathaniel proposed openstack/puppet-neutron: Simplify rpc_backend parameter  https://review.openstack.org/227994
15:27 dfisher EmilienM:  looking
15:32 EmilienM dfisher: it's hard.
15:32 dfisher very.
15:32 dmsimard EmilienM, dachary, dgurtner, xarses: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/op​enstack-dev/2015-September/075631.html
15:32 dfisher now, figure out how to get CI to work :)
15:32 dfisher and then tell me, because I can't figure out glance :)
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15:44 openstackgerrit Denis Egorenko proposed openstack/puppet-nova: Use OpenstackClient for nova auth  https://review.openstack.org/226862
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15:47 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration: scenario001: enable object service  https://review.openstack.org/228450
15:49 degorenko EmilienM, hi! I've prepared part of patch for nova-openstack client. Need review :) https://review.openstack.org/226862
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15:50 degorenko also, may be someone else can take a look on it ^
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16:11 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-swift: Stop managing file modes  https://review.openstack.org/228524
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16:13 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration: scenario001: enable object service  https://review.openstack.org/228450
16:14 iurygregory richm, ping
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16:29 openstackgerrit Dan Prince proposed openstack/puppet-tripleo: Automatically install packages when upgrading  https://review.openstack.org/228532
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16:46 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/puppet-cinder: Introduce cinder::db class  https://review.openstack.org/208354
16:52 richm iurygregory: pong
16:53 iurygregory the user that run the command which is the owner of the file =)
16:54 richm iurygregory: what is in keystone_idp_metadata.xml?  Is it ok that it is world readable?
16:56 iurygregory http://paste.openstack.org/show/474463/
16:57 iurygregory I think it's because the SP need the url to access this file
17:04 richm iurygregory: but won't apache be reading this file to return to the client?
17:04 richm iurygregory: so only apache and/or keystone need to read this file?
17:05 * iurygregory thinking
17:08 richm need to make sure that if a file is marked world readable, it really needs to be read by everyone
17:10 iurygregory well, the others Keystone will read this file, i'm not sure if changing permissions to this file can cause any problems
17:10 richm iurygregory:
17:10 richm iurygregory: ok
17:11 iurygregory we can let the keystone be the owner, but i don't know if i can change the readable value =/
17:11 iurygregory i'll talk with keystone guys =)
17:11 richm iurygregory: ok
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17:23 openstackgerrit Denis Egorenko proposed openstack/puppet-nova: Use OpenstackClient for nova auth  https://review.openstack.org/226862
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17:38 iurygregory richm, you are in the keystone channel?
17:39 hogepodge dmsimard: it need to be tc approved. I'm not sure where the documentation is.
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17:41 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-swift: proxy: ceilometer httpd support  https://review.openstack.org/228550
17:42 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration: scenario001: enable object service  https://review.openstack.org/228450
17:43 hogepodge dmsimard: http://docs.openstack.org/​infra/manual/creators.html
17:44 EmilienM _ody, Hunner: ping
17:47 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-swift: proxy: ceilometer httpd support  https://review.openstack.org/228550
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17:52 openstackgerrit Ramkumar Gowrishankar proposed openstack/puppet-neutron: Support for Nuage Neutron plugin and Nuage VRS in puppet-neutron  https://review.openstack.org/214798
17:52 hogepodge dmsimard: as far as I understand it there's no strong governance over adding project to the repo, but there is for projects that want to be big tent
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17:57 iurygregory richm, should I set to 600 or 660 ?
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17:58 EmilienM mfisch: I would like to know about monasca module now - it has been months now we discussed about whether moving it or not under the big tent. What's up?
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18:02 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration: DNM - CI test  https://review.openstack.org/228556
18:05 hogepodge dmsimard: so, you can be in openstack without problem, but you won't be big tent without joining as a new project or joining the puppet-openstack project, at which point you would fall under the puppet-openstack leadership as approved by the tc
18:05 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration: scenario001: enable object service  https://review.openstack.org/228450
18:05 dmsimard hogepodge: ok thanks
18:06 EmilienM I'm having hard time with swift - trying to deploy it without puppetdb, in a single puppet run, and idempotent second run.
18:07 mgagne EmilienM: good luck :D
18:07 mgagne EmilienM: let me know if you find a way
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18:13 hogepodge dmsimard: it's a bit weird. Everything is moving into the openstack namespace, but not everything moving will be big tent. The openstack namespace used to be a marker of TC approved officialness, now it's just a place to put things that are openstack related in some way
18:14 dmsimard EmilienM: If mgagne and I ever agreed on one single thing, it was our common hatred for puppet-swift :p
18:15 dmsimard EmilienM: also, never found a good way around the circular dependencies when puppet manages the ring
18:16 EmilienM challenge accepted!
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18:21 mfisch EmilienM: back from lunch
18:21 mfisch I thought it was already moved
18:21 mfisch you moved the namespace didnt you?
18:22 EmilienM namespace != big tent
18:22 EmilienM http://governance.openstack.org/refe​rence/projects/puppet-openstack.html
18:22 EmilienM puppet-monasca is not part of our project
18:23 mfisch and we still needed stuff like better testing right?
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18:23 mfisch also monasca at the time itself was not big tent
18:23 mfisch its still not
18:23 mfisch thats probably still a blocker if nothing else
18:24 EmilienM *shrug*
18:24 mfisch what do you want to happen?
18:24 mfisch the 2 guys here are not working on tests
18:25 EmilienM we asked mirantis to contribute the right way to the modules, I don't see why we should make exception
18:25 EmilienM 1/ change governane (they are core on it right now)
18:25 mfisch whats the exception?
18:25 mfisch I already replied on that to the ML as did Brad
18:25 mfisch remove the special cores
18:25 EmilienM 2/ make the module compliant (it's not consistent at all with our modules
18:25 EmilienM 3/ testing (CI)
18:25 mfisch 1) is solved
18:26 mfisch the rights should be switched to normal
18:26 mfisch 2 & 3 should be done, but I'm not sure when it will be done, the guys here are not working on it right now
18:27 mfisch http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/op​enstack-dev/2015-September/075087.html
18:27 EmilienM cool
18:28 mfisch personally we should do that and leave it out of big tent until 2 & 3 make progress
18:28 mfisch but I will not promise when that can happen
18:28 EmilienM ok
18:28 mfisch I will raise it with the guys here again when I see them
18:30 EmilienM mfisch: thx for being our liaison
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19:19 rcarrillocruz wabu: i addressed your comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222914/, thx
19:30 EmilienM dfisher: looks like you abandonned https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195135/ - I found a bug in the module about it. Can I take over part of some code?
19:31 dfisher please feel free.  I haven't actually abandoned it, just EBUSY
19:35 EmilienM dfisher: fair enough - I'm doing small chunks
19:35 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-ceilometer: stop managing File resources  https://review.openstack.org/228593
19:37 openstackgerrit Dan Prince proposed openstack/puppet-tripleo: Automatically install packages when upgrading  https://review.openstack.org/228532
19:48 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-ceilometer: wsgi: make sure eventlet process is stopped before httpd  https://review.openstack.org/228597
19:48 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration: scenario001: enable object service  https://review.openstack.org/228450
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19:58 openstackgerrit Ricardo Carrillo Cruz proposed openstack/puppet-ironic: Allow passing the whole contents of bifrost_global_vars  https://review.openstack.org/222914
20:03 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration: scenario001: enable object service  https://review.openstack.org/228450
20:11 openstackgerrit Iury Gregory Melo Ferreira proposed openstack/puppet-keystone: Support for Keystone as Identity Provider  https://review.openstack.org/208054
20:14 EmilienM puppet-swift reminds me life is not so beautiful
20:18 mwhahaha :D
20:18 dmsimard lol
20:19 dmsimard Been asking to find a way to manage the ring without exported resources since like havana
20:19 nibalizer ya...
20:19 dmsimard We can probably trace it back in some old etherpads
20:19 nibalizer we should just do it
20:20 dmsimard I can't picture how to do it though - Ansible has it kind of easy
20:21 nibalizer ya
20:22 EmilienM nibalizer: have you seen https://review.openstack.org/226830 ?
20:22 nibalizer I believe I've seen it
20:22 nibalizer but not reviewed it
20:23 EmilienM nibalizer: I'm interested by your feedback.
20:23 dmsimard openstack-ansible-deployment has a completely custom ring workflow though, perhaps that is the way to go
20:23 nibalizer EmilienM: im happy to give feedback
20:23 EmilienM nibalizer: thx
20:23 EmilienM dmsimard: cough. /kick dmsimard \o/
20:25 dmsimard Seriously though, they craft a custom file https://github.com/openstack/openstack-​ansible/blob/master/playbooks/roles/os_​swift_sync/tasks/swift_rings_build.yml and then parse it with https://github.com/openstack/openstac​k-ansible/blob/master/playbooks/roles​/os_swift_sync/files/swift_rings.py
20:26 EmilienM I'm sure it's working better
20:27 dmsimard Well, coming from Rackspace, I don't expect it to be clunky
20:33 EmilienM mfisch: do you install swift?
20:43 EmilienM dmsimard, mgagne: I have swift running with a single puppet run, without puppetdb
20:43 EmilienM though, I have ~4 patchs to puppet-swif
20:44 dmsimard lol
20:44 dmsimard That's cheating
20:44 EmilienM hey
20:44 EmilienM I'm pushing htem!
20:56 EmilienM dmsimard: you can see the 4 patches here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228620/
20:57 dmsimard omg the lines in that commit are way too long
20:57 EmilienM dmsimard: I copy pasted logs
20:58 dmsimard Just messing with you, it's a joke towards the thread on openstack-dev about commit length
20:58 EmilienM yeah
20:58 EmilienM dmsimard: you're a joker :P
20:59 dmsimard EmilienM: that doesn't make sense, that's 1) one patch and 2) I fail to see how that makes it so you can do everything in one puppet run
21:00 EmilienM dmsimard: it's an improvement patch, I don't garantee everything is idempotent
21:00 EmilienM but from the CI output, it looks like it helps
21:00 dmsimard you said 4 patches!
21:03 mfisch EmilienM: yes
21:03 mfisch EmilienM: vinsh is our swift guy
21:03 mfisch he's on a plane but we install it with puppet
21:03 mfisch he has a bunch of patches out
21:03 EmilienM mfisch: I saw that - I started to review, it's good
21:03 EmilienM we need his expertise
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21:18 EmilienM dmsimard: /sla
21:18 EmilienM oops
21:18 EmilienM dmsimard: I got tempest working but some tests are failing
21:19 EmilienM dmsimard: also, I still see RDO failing :(
21:25 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-swift: Improve File resources idempotency  https://review.openstack.org/228620
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21:54 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-swift: Improve File resources idempotency  https://review.openstack.org/228620
22:17 EmilienM I'm running a random issue: when running ceilometer wsgi, sometimes ceilometer-api (eventlet process) runs and is not stopped before apache start. Of course, apache fails to start since they both use 8777 port to bind API service.
22:18 EmilienM I tried to reproduce and I don't understand who is starting ceilometer-api process (package install?), because Puppet is disabling it
22:18 EmilienM oh and it's random
22:24 EmilienM dmsimard: running out of mem also on ubuntu
22:24 EmilienM swift tests fail because of that now
22:39 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration: scenario001: enable object service  https://review.openstack.org/228450
22:41 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration: scenario001: run 2 workers  https://review.openstack.org/228651
22:41 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration: scenario001: use Default as Keystone default domain  https://review.openstack.org/228277
22:42 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration: scenario001: enable orchestration service  https://review.openstack.org/227084
22:43 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration: scenario001: enable orchestration service  https://review.openstack.org/227084
22:43 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration: scenario001: enable object service  https://review.openstack.org/228450
22:44 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration: scenario001: enable object service  https://review.openstack.org/228450
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23:06 EmilienM dachary, xarses, dmsimard: it would be great to discuss about puppet-ceph during our weekly meeting tomorrow
23:07 dachary EmilienM: I won't make it but I delegate my vote to xarses :-)
23:07 EmilienM dachary: cool otherwise ML is fine
23:09 xarses EmilienM: as long as I can stay awake, ya =)
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23:21 xarses looks like someone already put it up there =)
23:27 openstackgerrit Cody Herriges proposed openstack/puppet-openstacklib: [WIP] Adds a params class for common data.  https://review.openstack.org/228662
23:35 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-swift: Improve File resources idempotency  https://review.openstack.org/228620
23:44 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration: scenario001: enable object service  https://review.openstack.org/228450
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