Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #rosettacode, 2011-02-04

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16:17 mwn3d_phone An anon user keeps running around making java method params fina
16:17 mwn3d_phone L
16:17 mwn3d_phone I guess its technically right but the benefits probably aren't worth the effort
16:18 SoniaKeys it's his effort though, right?
16:19 mwn3d_phone Basically the benefit is that it will be a compiler error if you reassign one of those params so you can make them final as long as that's how you want that param to work
16:19 mwn3d_phone Yeah I guess so
16:19 mwn3d_phone Except I'm always tempted to look at diffs for java examples
16:20 mwn3d_phone Usually its someone adding javascript though
16:20 mwn3d_phone I can't wait for SMW to be working the way we want so I don't have to deal with that annoyance anymore
16:27 SoniaKeys are there changes coming that deal with anon users?
16:29 mwn3d_phone No. We want to have each example on its own page and then have SMW queries transclude them on task pages.
16:29 mwn3d_phone So then to change an example you edit the example page instead of the task page
16:30 mwn3d_phone And we would have a form to add a new example which would create an example page and put the example in alphabetical order automatically
16:31 SoniaKeys it would be nice for each example to have it's own talk page
16:31 mwn3d_phone That would be abother side effect of this setup
16:46 shortcircuit mwn3d_phone: I _suspect_ the major problem with SMW work is that we need to turn on and off SMW parsing around templates.
16:47 shortcircuit A good milestone will be when you can put semantic properties in {{language}}, and have it work fine for [[Category:.QL]].
16:47 fedaykin http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Category:.QL
16:48 mwn3d_phone The problem with that might be that I'm not sure how to use the properties and other people are afraid to mess with the lang template
16:48 mwn3d_phone They could always try the beta version
16:48 shortcircuit Seems like a mutual fear problem. :)
16:49 shortcircuit I wonder...
16:49 shortcircuit Anyone care to try writing a LUA->ParserFunction transforming script?
16:57 mwn3d_phone "Mutual fear" is a pretty accurated description id say
16:59 mwn3d_phone Typing is hardc today
16:59 mwn3d_phone ...
16:59 mwn3d_phone I should just go back to bed
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17:12 shortcircuit Interesting developments at [[Talk:Permutation_test#Using_rational_arithmatic]]
17:12 fedaykin http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Talk:Permutation_test#Using_rational_arithmatic
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17:29 ENKI-][ shortcircuit: i know lua, and i can use its regx stuff. is that what you're asking for? a parser in lua?
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17:30 shortcircuit ENKI-][: No, more a Lua implementation that translates to MW syntax.
17:31 SoniaKeys sc: yes, Donal's comment on the permutation problem is interesting
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17:32 ENKI-][ shortcircuit: something in an arbitrary language that translates lua code into mediawiki syntax?
17:33 shortcircuit ENKI-][: Where 'arbitrary language' is something I can conceivably host without too many added packages or configuration headaches, yes.
17:33 Coderjoe ... why?
17:33 shortcircuit ENKI-][: The specific role I have in mind is to be able to do things like [[Template:Language]] in an easier-to-visually-parse language.
17:33 fedaykin http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Template:Language
17:34 ENKI-][ shortcircuit: i don't see what you mean by translating lua into mediawiki markup. lua is a programming language, and mediawiki markup is a markup language. it's like translating c into html
17:34 shortcircuit It doesn't even have to be full LUA, where the underlying MW ParserFunctions work doesn't support it.
17:34 shortcircuit ENKI-][: ParserFunctions isn't markup, it's a turing-incomplete scripting language.
17:35 ENKI-][ shortcircuit: i think we're talking about different languages, both called lua
17:36 shortcircuit ENKI-][: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions
17:36 fedaykin "Help:Extension:ParserFunctions - MediaWiki" http://rldn.net/8W3
17:37 Coderjoe ENKI-][: he wants a program that provides mediawiki markup output by running lua code
17:37 shortcircuit ENKI-][: That leads to code like: http://rosettacode.org/mw/index.php?title=Template:Language&action=edit
17:37 fedaykin "Editing Template:Language - Rosetta Code" http://rldn.net/1WA
17:37 ENKI-][ oh
17:37 ENKI-][ that's what i thought you were asking in the first place
17:37 ENKI-][ that's trivial
17:38 ENKI-][ what do you want the input format to be?
17:39 Coderjoe wo
17:39 shortcircuit I've got to focus on work.
17:39 Coderjoe there are php bindings for lua
17:39 Coderjoe so this could potentially be hacked in as a mediawiki extension
17:42 Coderjoe http://phplua.3uu.de/
17:42 fedaykin "phplua - LUA for PHP"
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21:38 mwn3d_phone Its ok [[Hello world/Text]] is back
21:38 fedaykin http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Hello_world/Text
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