Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #rosettacode, 2011-03-07

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10:28 Hypftier [[Terminal control/Ringing the terminal bell]] looks just like Hello World for a vast majority of languages so far. Maybe we could adapt the task so that it reads something like »Ring the terminal bell, produce a beep or other acoustic attention signal in a way that does *not* use the ASCII BEL character (e.g. a library function)« to avoid those answers?
10:28 fedaykin http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Terminal_control/Ringing_the_terminal_bell
10:32 Hypftier The remark about U+0007 behaving like that on terminals might be read as if that is already discouraged to use in that task, but I'm not terribly sure of that.
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13:16 shortcircuit Hypftier: The ASCII BEL character is a de jure standard way to ring terminal bells, at least in the case of ASCII-compatible terminals. Perhaps what's needed is a specific requirement of using a more generic method, such as termcaps or language support?
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14:22 Hypftier shortcircuit: I don't really know. Surely, the \a way works nearly universally at least where a character terminal/console is involved, but then for most languages the task just gets replaced by "Print the \a character" which I feel is fairly similar to Hello world/Text
14:25 shortcircuit Then perhaps the task needs to be analogous to Hello world/Text.
14:26 shortcircuit Rather than "ring the terminal bell", use "trigger an alarm", and use /Text terminal, /GUI and other variants as needed.
14:26 shortcircuit "Trigger an User Alert" might be a better name. (Why does that feel like it should be 'a user alert'?
14:26 shortcircuit )
14:27 shortcircuit mwn3d_phone: Have you seen this? http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Enterprise-Dependency-Big-Ball-of-Yarn.aspx
14:27 fedaykin "Enterprise Dependency: Big Ball of Yarn - The Daily WTF" http://rldn.net/PA1G
14:27 mwn3d_phone shortcircuit: because it should be "a user alert". The "y" sound at the beginning of "user" isn't a "vowel sound".
14:27 opticron shortcircuit, because english is weird
14:28 parsleyfirefly shortcircuit: because user starts with a consonant-y sound
14:28 opticron i'd put "a user"
14:28 opticron unless you're pronouncing "user" as "oozer"
14:28 shortcircuit I think you'd have to speak with an Austrian accent, for that.
14:29 shortcircuit Like a certain Californian governer.
14:29 mwn3d_phone shortcircuit: also no I haven't seen that in particular but I have seen it happen at work
14:29 opticron that's exactly what was going through my brain as well
14:30 mwn3d_phone Then you'd have to tell the oozer to "GET TO THE CHOPPA!!"
14:30 opticron and that "IT'S NAUGHT A TOOMAH!!"
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16:03 Intercoder[RCo] Anyone interested in reviewing my suggestion: http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Rosetta_Code:Village_Pump/Suggest_a_programming_task#Unsorted
16:03 fedaykin "Rosetta Code:Village Pump/Suggest a programming task - Rosetta Code" http://rldn.net/Wjww
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16:15 shortcircuit Intercoder[RCo]: I think we do have at least one maze-rel--gah
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16:16 shortcircuit Ah
16:16 Intercoder Im back
16:16 shortcircuit heh
16:16 shortcircuit Intercoder: I think we do have at least one maze-related task. It could probably plug into those somehow.
16:17 Intercoder true
16:17 Intercoder Just like Text processing
16:18 Intercoder Or Sorting algorithms if you like
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22:02 shortcircuit argh
22:02 shortcircuit The task description for [[Cholesky Decomposition]] is all but opaque to me.
22:02 fedaykin http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Cholesky_Decomposition
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22:05 mwn3d_phone shortcircuit: too much math?
22:06 Hypftier shortcircuit: any specific problems or just general non-understanding?
22:08 mwn3d_phone I skipped a lot of the math and just picked out the formulas
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