Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #rosettacode, 2011-06-18

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03:16 mikemol mwn3d_phone: I don't see that happening in the next five years. Even within the next five years, I expect some massive paradigm shift that would force the site to either adapt to cover something I don't yet see, or be relegated to an online museum of sorts.
03:17 mikemol What RC needs is a business model; I don't trust things like grants to be sufficient and efficient at getting and/or keeping RC what it needs to be to serve the ends it needs to serve.
03:18 mikemol Unfortunately, finding a workable business model is elusive. Selling packaged content isn't likely to work for very long; the nature of packaged content changes frequently, and its monetary value decreases regularly.
03:21 mikemol Selling access to site features or upgraded site features would be counterproductive; anything that makes the site less convenient to use than it should be would repel contributors, and contributors' voluntary content is the prime thing of value. The nature of RC as a context helps multiply that value, but that depends on having something to multiply.
03:22 mikemol Selling swag has been enough of a failure that I'm strongly inclined to remove the links to the Cafe Press and Zazzle sites.
03:23 mikemol The designs that are there aren't great, the people who buy the stuff are most likely buying to support RC, and it's more efficient for them to support RC through a direct donation, if that's their goal anyway.
03:24 mikemol Selling advertisement in a very seller-targeted fashion is the only thing I know of that remains.
03:24 dagnyscott There's two options for Rosetta Code to make money, as I can see: either become a non-profit, and get grants, or be for-profit and go for advertisers. Like, actually do sales, not just putting up some google ads. Either way, it's more or less a full time job just bringing in that money.
03:25 mikemol RC has a very, very niche community of regulars, and while nobody likes a business that sells its community, that's the only stable product.
03:27 mikemol So, for now and the forseeable future, RC will have to continue to be an after-hours job for me. Donations can handle the fixed costs, but I don't see a viable stable income source in the near term.
03:28 sorear how much of your time and money does RC need?
03:29 mikemol Money, somewhere between $30-60/mo. However, there was a large influx of donations last year, to the point where RC doesn't need more donations to stay comfortable through most of the rest of this year.
03:29 mikemol I keep the finances as separate as I can.
03:30 mikemol Time, well, it can always consume more time than I give it. For now, I mostly limit myself to server maintenance (though I've fallen behind on that) and community management (watching the Talk pages and stepping in as necessary)
03:31 mikemol The rest mostly attends to itself; by keeping a civil community of regulars, most problems manage to work themselves out.
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03:31 sorear I'm suprised it takes as much as it does
03:32 mikemol Heading off to bed for the night. Catch you all tomorrow.
03:32 mikemol I'll go over the specifics next chance I've got.
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13:43 mikemol sorear: Surprised at how much money it costs, or at the time it takes?
14:29 sorear More the former
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