Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #rosettacode, 2012-05-30

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15:49 TimToady RC looks down
15:53 * TimToady looks up to see if anyone is around...
16:00 eMBee rc looks down at you and you are looking up at it?
16:00 * eMBee is trying to look it up, but it is looking down at him too
16:01 eMBee seems rc is not in a good mood today ;-|
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16:52 mikemol No, the server is not down. Yes, Rosetta Code is down, by way of RC's ISP being down.
16:54 eMBee ah, heh
16:55 eMBee btw: i have been meaning to ask you: would you add my devlog to the rc planet?
16:59 mikemol I'd love to. I need to re-set-up the planet, first.
17:00 eMBee oh, well, i am not in a hurry, the url is http://societyserver.org/scripts/rss.pike?feed=/mbaehr/
17:00 fedaykin http://rldn.net/pCGd
17:02 eMBee it is all technical stuff, as non-technical topics go to my family log elsewhere
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17:21 Topic for #rosettacode is now Rosetta Code: Coding in (∞ - 1) languages ; http://irclog.perlgeek.de/rosettacode/today ; Pop a tab and stick around!
17:51 BenBE hi guys
17:51 sorear hello, BenBE
17:52 BenBE got some new language files by mail ...
17:52 BenBE will review them later today and maybe also add them to the repo ...
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20:47 ClaytonB[RCo] hi, new user here, anyone online?
20:48 sorear ues
20:51 ClaytonB[RCo] sorear - is that at me?
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20:52 sorear ClaytonB[RCo]: yes
20:53 mwn3d_canada I'm online too
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21:01 ClaytonB[RCo] I'm designing a new programming language - I'm about 9 months into it and I am considering creating an RC entry for it as a way to help people get awareness. The implementation is not mature (version 0.5-ish) but the spec is pretty stable... any thoughts?
21:03 ClaytonB[RCo] Here's the git if you want to take a look: https://github.com/claytonkb/Babel
21:06 sorear version 0.5 :p
21:06 sorear I just released version 18 of my Perl6 compiler on Monday
21:06 sorear would anyone call it 36x more mature than your language? :D
21:09 ClaytonB[RCo] lol - not sure but Perl 6 is definitely more mature than Babel
21:12 ClaytonB[RCo] Is anyone using Perl 6 IRL yet?
21:12 sorear yes
21:12 ClaytonB[RCo] I'm a disciple of Perl 5 but never seen Perl 6 in the wild
21:13 ClaytonB[RCo] do you have a link to your repo?
21:13 sorear https://github.com/sorear/niecza
21:14 ClaytonB[RCo] thx
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21:40 mwn3d_canada ClaytonB[RCo]: TimToady is "pretty active" with perl 6 :p
21:42 mwn3d_canada Also we have [[Perl 6]] on the site
21:43 fedaykin http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Perl_6
21:43 mwn3d_canada There are lots of examples
21:46 * BenBE just maybe looking like he is or is not online ...
21:46 BenBE ClaytonB[RCo] You might also like to create a [[GeSHi Language File]] for it ;-)
21:46 fedaykin http://rosettacode.org/wiki/GeSHi_Language_File (Doesn't exist.)
21:47 BenBE fedaykin At least not for his language :P
21:48 BenBE Wasn't Perl 6 invented to proof that using Unicode in a programming language is a bad idea?
21:49 * Hypftier throws a U+FFFD at BenBE
21:50 * BSLSK05 smiles back with U+FDD0
21:51 * BenBE hints http://xkcd.com/380/
21:51 fedaykin "xkcd: Emoticon"
21:52 ClaytonB[RCo] Babel is a "bytecode" interpreter so it doesn't specify any text input but it has built-in support for UTF-8 processing
22:02 * sorear sighs.
22:02 sorear BenBE: are you sure that wasn't Java?
22:08 ClaytonB[RCo] RC uses Geshi to generate its syntax highlighting?
22:08 sorear BenBE: Perl 6 has never, in my 2.5 years on the project, required any characters outside ASCII for syntax, has no predefined names without ASCII aliases, and *every* predefined name uses only ISO Latin-1 characters (below U+00FF).
22:09 sorear BenBE: now can we please focus on *true* complaints, like the fact that it runs many common operations tens of times slower than p5?
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23:18 BenBE ClaytonB[RCo] Yes. RC uses GeSHi ... and BTW: I'm the GeSHi maintainer ;-)
23:19 BenBE sorear: What about: Perl 6 has been in developement for longer than Duke Nukem Forever (nearly).
23:39 ClaytonB[RCo] BenBE: So, do I need to have a web server set up to test Geshi? How do I write up a Geshi file without something to test it against?
23:44 TimToady Perl 5 has been in development for even longer than Perl 6 :-)
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23:52 BenBE ClaytonB[RCo] Having something that runs PHP is strongly recommended but not strictly required in order to write a language file for GeSHi. I often write them without running them even through GeSHi (experience allows)
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