Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #rosettacode, 2012-07-30

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01:02 sorear welcome back BlackCherry.  Glad I didn't scare you off
01:09 BlackCherry sorear no problem, you dont scare me ;)
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15:52 TimToady most of the actual spam seems to come from accounts added immediately prior, but I worry about all the accounts that get added and then never used
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15:52 TimToady what percentage of all the new accounts are real, do you suppose?
15:53 TimToady and how many of them are just showing up in an "accounts available to spam" database?
15:54 TimToady it seems to me that we could say "you have to edit something in the first N hours or days or we won't consider it a real account"
15:54 TimToady is there any reason to have an account without editing anything?
15:55 TimToady if there are hundreds of spam accounts, those may all get used on the same day
16:05 mwn3d_phone TimToady: I think the ones that never get used are not used because their emails bounce
16:06 mwn3d_phone So then they don't get edit privs
16:07 mwn3d_phone Or if the emails don't bounce they don't do whatever it is they need to do with that email (click a link or whatever)
16:07 mwn3d_phone So then the bot tries to edit...fails...and gives up
16:16 TimToady okay, then they're probably benign, except for filling up the database
17:06 mwn3d_phone Yeah I don't think storage space is much of a problem yet
17:07 mwn3d_phone There might be a way to blow up all of the users that are a certain age with no edits. It might not be a nice MW extension but maybe there's a way.
17:08 mwn3d_phone Who knows if that could help performance very much
17:09 mwn3d_phone Inactive/stale users might not be part of indexing in relevant views and tables
20:36 mwn3d_phone Looks like last week we got a bunch of reddit hits from the cmdrtaco AMA post
20:39 mwn3d_phone mikemol: someone talked you up in another post specifically about the site
20:40 mwn3d_phone "Its like someone took the concept for http://99-bottles-of-beer.net and made it useful"
20:40 fedaykin "99 Bottles of Beer | Start"
20:45 mwn3d_phone It looks like you already knew about all of that, mikemol. You're all over the comments.
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22:01 mikemol mwn3d_phone: URL?
22:01 mikemol TimToady: I think most of the accounts added but never used fail to get their email confirmation through, which is why they don't wind up being used for spam.
22:02 mikemol I believe I also configured some DNSRB stuff, which would also block some of them.
22:02 mikemol (Though it'd be better if DNSRB blocking happened at account signup rather than edit checks.)
22:02 mikemol mwn3d_phone: Oh, right. The AMA. :)
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23:47 Gerard_Schildber To the RC lawnskeepers (who keep things neat and trimmed):  I've been trying to have the mathmatical expressions (for a matrix) fixed for the Cholesky and LU decompostion (both have the same error, one has it twice --- in displaying the '''A''' matrix''') --- other than leaving a note on the "talk" page (done), is there a faster and sure way to have it resolved?  --- other than fixed it myself (and I don't feel that com
23:52 mwn3d_phone Gerard_Schildber: if its something that might invalidate examples then definitely leave it to the talk page
23:53 mwn3d_phone If its just looks then maybe someone here could help if you describe the problem
23:53 Gerard_Schildber No, it won't invalidate examples, but I had a heck of a time trying to figure out why the formulas didn't work.
23:53 Gerard_Schildber I described the problem on the talk page.
23:54 Gerard_Schildber I just discovered a 2nd problem, similar to the first problem on both tasks.

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