Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #rosettacode, 2012-12-07

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14:42 elady how can i signup to the site?
14:42 elady I want to contribute PHP codes..
14:42 elady but apparently I'm block listed for some kind of reason
14:43 elady *black
14:44 elady someone here?
14:47 GlitchMr elady: What is your nick on Rosetta Code?
14:47 elady I am not registered
14:47 elady I am trying to register
14:48 GlitchMr oh
14:48 elady getting DNSBL error...
14:49 GlitchMr Oh, that
14:49 GlitchMr I think my ISP is on that list too.
14:49 elady LOL
14:49 GlitchMr I've made account from Opera Mini.
14:50 elady I tried some VPNs and they are also BL'ed
14:50 elady browser issue?
14:50 GlitchMr I've no idea why Rosetta Code uses DNSBL. But, well, at least it works as spam protection.
14:51 elady and also prevent good code from being added to the site..
14:51 elady :\
14:52 GlitchMr elady: in channel topic - Account creation issues? Send an email with  your desired username to bureaucrats@rosettacode.org
14:52 elady can you create an account on my behalf?
14:52 fedaykin "Rosetta Code"
14:52 GlitchMr Try doing this
14:52 elady already sent
14:52 GlitchMr Well, I guess you will have to wait then ;-).
14:52 elady oh well..
14:53 mikemol elady: Strange. That email should be making its way to me.
14:53 * mikemol sighs
14:53 mikemol elady: I'll have to take care of it tonight, and figure out why the forwarder isn't working properly.
14:54 elady @mikemol : try sending it again?
14:54 lambdabot Unknown command, try @list
14:54 elady mikemol : try sending it again?
14:54 mikemol elady: You can try that, sure.
14:54 elady ok
14:55 elady lol... sent it to ureaucrats@rosettacode.org  (no b at the beginning)
14:55 fedaykin "Rosetta Code"
14:55 mikemol Shouldn't have made a difference, honestly. *@rosettacode.org should make its way to me.
14:55 fedaykin "Rosetta Code"
14:55 elady ok
14:55 elady I sent it again
14:55 mikemol Hey, it arrived.
14:56 elady great
14:56 mikemol Do you want me to use Elad Yosifon or אלעד יוסיפון as your "real name"?
14:56 elady English version..
14:57 elady עברית?
14:57 mikemol Copy/pasted from what GMail showed me in the "From" field.
14:57 elady lol
14:57 mikemol Might be a quirk from going between LTR and RTL.
14:57 elady that's funny
14:58 GlitchMr Well, mixing LTR and RTL is complex.
14:58 elady yup
14:59 mikemol elady: Spaces are allowed in usernames in MW. Do you still want the underscore and all-lower-caps?
14:59 elady yes plz..
14:59 GlitchMr You cannot go all-lower-caps in MediaWiki
15:00 GlitchMr First letter has to be uppercase.
15:00 mikemol Kinda sorta. First letter is case-insensitive, but displayed upper-case.
15:00 elady fine with me
15:00 mikemol elady: Anyway, you should be getting a password reset email momentarily.
15:01 mikemol If you don't see it, check your spam bin. Email bounces make their way to my personal email, and I follow up on them.
15:01 elady thank you very much..
15:01 elady logged in..
15:01 * mikemol goes back to work
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16:14 jhaig I've tried registering with rosettacode.org both from home and from work and both times I get "Your IP address is listed as an open proxy in the DNSBL used by Rosetta Code. You cannot create an account." I would believe this from home, on a dynamic IP (although I am surprised) but getting it at work as well I suspect there is something broken.
16:14 fedaykin "Rosetta Code"
16:15 mikemol jhaig: See the topic.
16:15 jhaig Oh, sorry. :-)
16:15 mikemol Pop me an email at that address, and I'll add an account for you as soon as I have time. You'll receive a password reset email.
16:16 * mikemol notes that at the same time DNSBL blocks have increased, spam has decreased.
16:16 mikemol I wonder if the DNSBLs found and added some problem netblocks.
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16:17 GlitchMr I've once considered using DNSBL on my website. But it blocks like every dynamic IP.
16:19 mikemol GlitchMr: There are a bunch of different ones.
16:19 mikemol I'm using a combination of a few.
16:23 jhaig I'm trying to join because I have a MySQL Mandlebrot set generator. However, it looks like 'pure' SQL is preferred - 18 code samples in SQL and only one in MySQL. Is this the case?
16:24 GlitchMr Well, you can mark it only works in certain implementation.
16:25 GlitchMr Except I think that for Rosetta Code, MySQL is separate language.
16:25 GlitchMr Insert is as MySQL language example.
16:26 GlitchMr I think that MySQL, Oracle and PostgreSQL count as separate languages on Rosetta Code
16:26 mikemol jhaig: There's really no 'preferred' dialect of SQL. That whole genre of languages is really neglected on RC.
16:27 mikemol For all I care, you can take it and run with it. It'll result in something better than what's there.
16:27 jhaig To be honest, I don't believe anyone writes anything in pure SQL (or even can)
16:27 GlitchMr SQLite is rather close to pure SQL.
16:40 mikemol The crappy state of SQL (and other database query languages) on RC comes from its initial lack of direction when RC was first created...and then never really built upon since then.
16:55 jhaig How long has RC been around?
16:56 mikemol Jan/Feb 2007.
16:57 jhaig Not that long ago then. SQL has been around for ages and, while I agree that there is a lack of adherence to the standards in the various SQL flavours, I'm not sure why that would have caused a problem.
16:58 mikemol jhaig: It was more an issue of a a lack of clarity of what RC was _for_.
16:58 mikemol When I wrote the first few tasks and examples, I was only familiar with imperative languages. That kinda showed in the initial appearance of the site.
16:59 jhaig Oh right. Well, maybe I'll start at '100 doors' and see how far I get. :-)
17:04 eMBee there are only a handful of solutions for those SQL variations, wouldn't be hard to reclassify them i think, if someone wants to pick up the task
17:15 * TimToady is glad he just switched to a static IP address...
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