Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #rosettacode, 2013-07-08

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12:37 opticron eMBee, you sure it's not china resetting the connection because china?
12:59 ttmrichter opticron: eMBee: Definitely Rosettacode is blocked by the GFW.
12:59 ttmrichter I have to go through my back door to get there.
13:06 eMBee ttmrichter: where are you again?
13:06 ttmrichter Wuhan.
13:13 eMBee i can load pages, but after every load the next loads get disrupted for a few minutes
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13:49 ttmrichter That sounds like typical GFW interference.
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14:08 eMBee yes, but it indicates that the site is not fully blocked but rather there are some keywords causing problems
14:08 eMBee my guess anyways
14:09 ttmrichter eMBee: Sometimes I get the feeling the GFW is set up just to discourage access to certain classes of foreign sites (like Wikis) as a training mechanism to get people to avoid them out of habit.
14:37 mikemol What's up?
14:37 mikemol Oh, the chinese firewall?
14:37 mikemol yeah, RC has been blocked by them on and off.
14:38 mikemol What's the specific problem, though?
14:38 mikemol I get the odd report that the server is down, and sometimes that turns out to be an issue between RC and CloudFlare.
14:39 mikemol O.o
14:39 mikemol RC's traffic has almost doubled since last year.
14:40 mikemol OK, not "almost doubled" but it's 50% greater since this time last year, on a 30 day average.
14:40 ttmrichter Well, I do try to get people to go over to RC all the time.
14:40 mikemol Saw this yesterday: https://twitter.com/reed_mang​ino/status/353838925489504256
14:40 fedaykin "Twitter / reed_mangino: Um, how am I just now finding ..." http://rldn.net/1eL
14:41 mikemol Sometimes I wonder if I need to do an advertising campaign or something. I keep getting the impression that RC is the site that everybody knows about, so nobody talks about.
14:41 ttmrichter It wouldn't hurt to advertise RosettaCode, no.
14:41 ttmrichter It's a cool site and it deserves a lot more love.
14:42 * eMBee nods
14:42 mikemol It would hurt...RC's cache reserves have emptied, and I'm paying out of pocket again.
14:42 mikemol It'd be nice if I even had time to update the finance spreadsheet...but I haven't had time for that in a long, long time.
14:42 ttmrichter Ugh.
14:43 mikemol s/cache/cash/
14:43 ttmrichter Have you got a Paypal tip jar button up or anything?
14:43 eMBee what are your current expenses?
14:43 mikemol Yeah, but I don't have it in a promient place.
14:43 mikemol hang on
14:43 ttmrichter Maybe if my Trilobyte toy takes off I can toss something RC's way.
14:43 ttmrichter I really like RC and would hate to see the person who made it suffer out of pocket for it.
14:44 mikemol $102.60 every three months.
14:44 mikemol I shut down the $15/mo bank account about a month ago, since it wasn't doing anything Paypal couldn't do for me.
14:45 mikemol Next invoice is in two months.
14:45 eMBee how many resources do you get for that? bandwidth, hardware?
14:45 mikemol 2048MiB ram, 48GiB Disk, 320 GiB transfer Xen VPS, $102.60/3months
14:45 mikemol And it's actually 4096MiB RAM.
14:46 ttmrichter mikemol: One thing you might want to consider is tweeting a call for funds.  Or make some kind of blog entry somewhere outlining your finances and tweeting a link to that.
14:46 mikemol Invoice has it incorrectly labeled; as I got a RAM boost for volunteering for a renumber early in their process.
14:46 eMBee and if you exxeed the teransfer how much is the surcharge?
14:46 ttmrichter There's no shame asking for funds when you're running a site like RC out of pocket.
14:46 * eMBee nods
14:46 mikemol eMBee: I asked about that; they're not actually counting, so no worries.
14:46 eMBee oh, ok
14:48 mikemol I'd *like* to set up a couple more VMs. It'd be good to split the squid+mysql+memcached+apache setup into squid/mysql/memcached+apache. Right now, everything's on one server.
14:48 mikemol That's not going to happen any time soon, though. At least CloudFlare is easing a huge amount of the work.
14:49 mikemol I also have another problem. RC is a DBA, so any income that comes into it gets counted towards my gross income.
14:50 eMBee more vms means more cost, yes?
14:50 eMBee DBA?
14:51 mikemol Because of the Affordable Healthcare Act, I need to be very, very careful to keep my gross income below 400% of the poverty line. If I don't, I go over the threshold where price caps are placed on the cost of medical insurance, and that would be a very, very bad place for me to land this year.
14:51 mikemol Does Business As.
14:51 eMBee you ought to talk to someone like SPI to handle finances for you so that it doesn't run into your personal account
14:52 mikemol In other words, Rosetta Code has the same legal and financial identity as me.
14:52 * eMBee nods
14:52 mikemol Doesn't matter; I'd have to incorporate in order to avoid it.
14:52 mikemol Ah, I see what you're saying.
14:52 eMBee no, if SPI takes over then RC is no longer you
14:53 mikemol That's...appealing.
14:53 * mikemol has to get back to work.
14:53 eMBee they are already incorporated and doing stuff like that is what they are there for
14:53 eMBee it would also allow tax free donations
14:55 mikemol If you know someone there, have them get in touch with me; it'd be much appreciated.
14:55 * mikemol doesn't have much time to initiate conversations any more.
14:55 eMBee i'll keep that in mind
14:55 eMBee what about the VM cost question? to get another VM you have to pay double?
14:57 mikemol Of the same spec? Yeah. Practically speaking, though, a 512MB VM would work for a squid proxy. A 2GB VM would work for MySQL. 4GB would be reserved for Apache+memcached.
14:57 mikemol Here's their price schedule: http://prgmr.com/xen/
14:57 fedaykin "Linux and NetBSD Xen VPS hosting."
14:59 eMBee i consider getting a new root host at hetzner.de. could share VMs there for a flat fee or even for whatever comes in as donations at the time
14:59 fedaykin "Hetzner Online AG"
15:00 eMBee wow fedaykin managed to pick out that hostname, impressive
15:01 mikemol I've got a good relationship with prgmr going. They're supposed to be doing a price drop soon, too.
15:02 eMBee ok, just sharing options. it would also allow routing finances away from you...
15:03 * eMBee already has a company he can route things through
15:03 mikemol Ah
15:05 eMBee just in case the need arises. i'll keep an eye open for an SPI connection too
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