Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #salt, 2013-07-20

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00:23 aranhoide btw any good reason why old salt versions are not available in the apt repo?
00:24 aranhoide that's very inconvenient.  once a salt version works for my uses I don't like to be forced to upgrade
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00:38 EugeneKay Because old software is old for a reason
00:39 EugeneKay Salt is still <1.0; it is thus not feature complete per the standard versioning schema
00:39 EugeneKay Feel free to ask your distribution to package a long-term stable version, but don't expect it before 1.0 ;-)
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00:41 aranhoide the apt repo is a saltstack/salt ppa
00:41 aranhoide not maintained by the distribution but (I presume) by the salt team
00:41 EugeneKay And that's why you don't get old versions
00:41 aranhoide that's why I have to get them from pip
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02:55 chrism_ so I'm trying to use a variable in a pillar.get request through a for loop and getting "None" back
02:55 chrism_ =\
02:56 chrism_ is something like this valid for referencing a var avilable as {{ dbname }}?
02:56 chrism_ {{ salt['pillar.get']('auth_tokens:{{ dbname }}:app_id') }}
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02:57 TOoSmOotH when using the user.present I am getting errors
02:57 TOoSmOotH that the group doesn't exist do I have to create a group per user?
02:57 TOoSmOotH like a group.present for each user I want to create
02:58 chrism_ assuming linux it shoudl automatically add a matching group for your user i believe
02:58 TOoSmOotH ok let me try removing the gid
02:59 TOoSmOotH that did it
02:59 TOoSmOotH removing the gid in the sls took care of it
02:59 chrism_ yay
03:00 TOoSmOotH looks like I should make it a pillar though
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03:55 aranhoide is there no platform-agnostic grain to obtain the public IP address of a machine?
03:55 aranhoide or command or whatnot
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04:08 zach hello folks, can anyone help me point out what I'm doing wrong in this state file? https://p.6core.net/p/ev553Vp7v6SWBtQPvxKYwiWp
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04:39 rbstewart zach: assuming that mount.mounted relies on module.run being done, you need to add a require statment. Otherwise it's a race.
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04:44 zach rbstewart is gone now, but thanks!
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05:39 auser zach: stil having problems with it?
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05:47 zach auser: yes, actually
05:47 auser what is the error?
05:48 zach auser: I'm probably doing it completely wrong, here's what I have: https://p.6core.net/p/cVpLMDAh7lLczLw6p5sgtiRr
05:48 zach auser: as you can see, it doesnt actually format the disk
05:48 auser so the require statement is not quite right
05:49 zach haha, that was my guess...I've not yet grasped the require section
05:49 auser I don't use the mounted module, so I don't know enough about that yet… sec
05:49 zach cool, thanks
05:49 auser np
05:49 auser sec
05:52 auser try something like this: http://pastie.org/8157827
05:52 auser also, you'll have to unmount the drive
05:52 auser otherwise it won't run
05:52 zach makes sense
05:52 zach let me try it, thanks!
05:53 auser np zach
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05:54 zach auser: man. you're a life saver, thank you!
05:54 auser no problemo zach
05:55 auser although I don't have much up there yet… saltstat.es is where my newsletter/blog is at
05:55 zach cool, I'll take a look
05:55 auser if you're interested in other articles, etc.
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05:55 zach Absolutely, new project I'm doing so all the info I can get the better
05:55 zach redploying new servers and migrating from RHEL5 to RHEL6, it's a task :)
05:56 zach ~130 hosts
05:56 auser yeah, sounds like it
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05:57 zach so it's looking at mount_app at first, it formats the disk, moves down to mount.mounted, confirms that module.run already completed with the require statement, and continues -- correct?
05:57 auser yeah
05:57 auser the require statement sets up the dependency graph
05:57 zach perfect
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05:58 zach I could apply the same thing to apache deployments, correct?
05:58 auser yep
05:59 zach cool, that'll be my biggest challenge, so I'll probably do some of that {% ninja.skill %}  forloop stuff
05:59 zach ~300 domains, ssl certs, vhosts, etc
05:59 auser phew!
06:00 auser I do not envy you
06:00 zach Just imagine...I was planning to do all of this with my perl automation (Net::OpenSSH + Expect) until I found salt...way easier now :-)
06:01 auser ew.
06:01 auser yes, Salt is EASY
06:01 zach Appreciate you showing me how require's and modules work correctly, you saved me countless hours
06:01 auser well...
06:01 auser no problem
06:01 zach Yes, yes it is, way easier than what I wrote :)
06:01 auser I'm writing a book on Salt, so...
06:01 zach Spent ~12 hours writing my automation modules in Perl to get what I wanted done with salt in about 30 minutes
06:01 auser I hope I can be effective in helping
06:02 auser nice!
06:02 zach and now other teammates can deploy stuff with out relying on the only sys engineer the company has
06:02 auser yep, absolutely
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06:08 auser that's why I'm writing a book on it zach :)
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06:15 madeira How much interested would there be here for something like Devstructure Blueprint for Salt?
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06:28 zach that would be cool
06:34 madeira zach: have you tried blueprint for puppet or others?
06:34 madeira we're experimenting with a salt version
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06:44 madeira https://github.com/MadeiraCloud/pysa
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09:14 Topic for #salt is now Welcome to #salt - http://saltstack.org | 0.16.0 is the latest | Please be patient when asking questions as we are volunteers and may not have immediate answers - Channel logs are available at http://irclog.perlgeek.de/salt/
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10:35 emilisto do you have any hints on using the absent states?
10:35 emilisto like, if I have a number of states: alpha, bravo and charlie, that are services, and I remove one of the services from the list of states to include
10:35 emilisto I'd like it to be stopped on the server
10:35 emilisto I assume there must be some good pattern to use for this?
10:36 emilisto like file.absent for removing config files
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13:14 jY anyone have an issue with minions just losing connections to the master
13:14 jY only way to get them back is restart the minion
13:14 jY like 80% of my minions aren't reporting on a cmd.run
13:14 jY using 0.16 also
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13:19 squelch Hi all, anyone have any idea why i'm getting this: State mysql_database.present found in sls webserver.percona is unavailable
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13:29 sashka_u1 squelch: NOTE: This module requires the MySQLdb python module and the proper settings in the minion config file. See salt.modules.mysql for more information.
13:29 sashka_u1 squelch: https://salt.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ref/modules/all/salt.modules.mysql.html
13:31 sashka_ua jY: I saw such behavior
13:31 sashka_ua try to check the log and check for IO error
13:31 squelch sashka_u1: Ah! I was missing MySQLdb, works now.. Thank you!!
13:31 jY sashka_ua: server log?
13:33 jY logs are clean
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13:42 sashka_ua jY: minion's log
13:42 jY sashka_ua: ya they are clean
13:42 sashka_ua jY: and use test.ping to check if minions are alive
13:42 jY the minions that die are completely random if i don't do anything for 24 hours or so
13:43 sashka_ua jY: 100% that Ive seen before
13:43 jY i wish i could figure it out.. only thing holding me back about using salt
13:43 sashka_ua jY: try to enable debug log and check
13:44 sashka_ua jY: I also used strace to figure out the reason
13:44 jY sashka_ua: ok i will thanks
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13:44 jY i have minions doing a highline every minute even
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13:46 sashka_ua jY: use strace
13:46 sashka_ua find the minion that doesn't answer on queries
13:46 sashka_ua and
13:46 sashka_ua strace -Tt -ff -o /tmp/str.txt -s 512 -p PID_MINION
13:46 sashka_ua and carefully review it
13:53 sashka_ua jY: https://github.com/saltstack/salt/issues/5700
13:55 sashka_ua ttl
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18:01 andrewclegg anyone know if there's an easy way to use rsync in a state, apart from building a command line yourself?
18:02 andrewclegg the slowness of file.recurse is killing me...
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18:24 zach andrewclegg: I have no idea, but maybe this? https://p.6core.net/p/VOCTzlkLpWx5Xdsn7H1ghyVw
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18:34 andrewclegg not sure what that's doing, why does it have an rsync command and a copy too?
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20:26 squelch how do i require a package that has been included using -pkgs:
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20:27 squelch doesn't seem to recognise it
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20:43 akoumjian squelch: You can't require an individual package that way. As always, you are requiring the state, not the package itself. Require it by the state name, not the package name.
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20:44 squelch akoumjian: Ahh, thank you
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20:49 zach gentlemen, would something like this work? https://p.6core.net/p/A2q2tuf3AmARVVUX3zPb4pUm
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