Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #salt, 2013-08-18

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00:21 noob2 i seem to have some salt jobs just stuck in limbo on my servers
00:21 noob2 not sure how to kill them
00:24 noob2 i think one of my init scripts is never returning
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01:26 rustyrazorblade i'm trying to determine if I can replace my puppet + fabric tools with salt.  i'm trying to figure out if I can do code deployments where I supply a tag to some command, and it'll download the deb package off s3 that matches up to the tag, then install it?  it looks like I can use cmd.run with an argument of the tag?
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05:48 dsmwong Is there a sample of how one can use bootstrap to set hot name on newly related instances? I was thinking of using pillars - would be good to see something similar so I don't have to reinvent.
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11:11 joehh noob2: which os?
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14:31 kiorky uhm, why bugfix chzanges are not released upon next releases of salt ?
14:31 kiorky we made some changes to syndic a month ago, new release arrised since but related changesets are not in*
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16:37 noob2 joehh: ubuntu 12.10.  When i fixed the problem with my init file all the salt processes magically worked again also
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18:23 Jahkeup hey my custom states aren't showing up, they sync to the minion cache but can't be called. The _modules work just fine though
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18:23 Jahkeup any reason why this would happen?
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19:39 subway Is it possible to have a resourse declare it should be run before another resource? For instance, I have a module for installing a package. In init.sls I actually install the package. I'd like to have another state file that adds an optional repo with a newer version of the package, include the init.sls, but require the repo mod before the package installation
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19:47 Jahkeup subway: have you checked out  - require ?
19:48 Jahkeup subway: the docs for require and watch can be found here http://docs.saltstack.com/ref/states/ordering.html?highlight=require
19:48 subway Jahkeup: yeah, but because the repo change is optional, - require won't work -- the repo change won't always be there.
19:49 Jahkeup optional how?
19:49 subway there are distro provided packages
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19:49 subway so init.sls installs "foo"
19:49 subway foo.latest should add a repo and then install foo from that new repo
19:50 subway hmm.. I guess in foo.latest I can extend the pkg resource to require the repo
19:50 subway after including foo
19:50 Jahkeup that should work :)
19:50 Jahkeup try that and see
19:51 subway I've gotta say, coming from using puppet extensively, Saltstack has been surprisingly difficult to use.
19:52 Jahkeup its a different mindset altogether
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19:52 subway Rather, I find it difficult to express a lot of things that were relatively easy with the puppet language.
19:52 Jahkeup I came from chef :)
19:52 xt subway: most people have the opposite reaction
19:53 subway xt: Yeah, I've heard. I think it has a lot to do with the learning curve of puppet. I need to get out of the habit of trying to build a graph of resources
19:54 subway saltstack feels a lot like more like scripting than config management. (Early impression, I'm just starting to play with it)
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