Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #salt, 2013-09-21

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01:54 Jahkeup hey terminalmage I patched the keystone module to support connection_args like mysql, is this something that I should submit a PR for?
01:54 terminalmage what is keystone?
01:55 Jahkeup openstack keystone
01:55 Jahkeup for managing tenants, users, endpoints, and services
01:55 terminalmage ah
01:55 terminalmage did you use the same basic syntax as the mysql connection overrides?
01:56 terminalmage we like to maintain a consistent UX when posible
01:56 terminalmage *possible
01:56 Jahkeup connection_user, connection_tenant, connection_tenant_id and so on to match the current grain settings
01:56 Jahkeup yea
01:56 terminalmage nice
01:56 terminalmage and how are you looking up these values?
01:56 terminalmage in your patch
01:56 terminalmage are you using config.get?
01:57 terminalmage I believe that is how mysql does it
01:57 terminalmage config.get looks in more than one location
01:57 terminalmage minion config, grains, pillar, master config
01:57 Jahkeup it defaults to connection_args if provided
01:57 terminalmage though not in that order
01:57 terminalmage ok, so these are only able to be supplied via CLI?
01:57 Jahkeup or in the states too like mysql :)
01:58 Jahkeup I did add that in the state file too
01:58 terminalmage I'm really not familiar with this module
01:58 terminalmage how was it getting the config values?
01:58 terminalmage before
01:59 * terminalmage looks at source
01:59 Jahkeup I believe the last state prior to my editing was that it would be able to look up a "profile", and then fall back on grains
01:59 terminalmage ok looks like it was using config.get already
01:59 Jahkeup eya
01:59 Jahkeup I added the ability to use connection_args as I use the args in my current states
02:00 terminalmage yeah cool
02:00 terminalmage yeah go ahead and submit the pull req if you want
02:00 Jahkeup from a previous patch that I had yet to PR for ;D
02:00 terminalmage I'm deep in other stuff so I probably won't be able to look at it right away. so it'll likely be someone else that merges
02:00 Jahkeup sounds good, I'll go ahead and do that then.
02:00 Jahkeup no worries
02:00 terminalmage yeah I'm rewriting all the freebsd package management stuff
02:01 terminalmage ALMOST done...
02:01 Jahkeup ooh that's awesome! I can't wait to use salt on my fbsd machines, haven't had much of a reason yet
02:01 Jahkeup and now that its pkgng by default...oh man
02:02 Jahkeup can't wait
02:03 terminalmage yeah, well the current freebsdpkg module was ignoring pkg_add if the machine had pkgng setup
02:03 terminalmage so I ripped all that stuff out of it and made it do just pkg_add
02:03 terminalmage and I beefed up pkgng.py
02:04 terminalmage freebsdpkg will still be the default for 9.x with salt
02:04 terminalmage but that can be overridden in the minion config
02:04 terminalmage using the "providers" parem
02:04 terminalmage *param
02:05 terminalmage and with freebsd 10+, my new pkgng module will be the default
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02:05 terminalmage I'm also looking at getting ports support
02:07 terminalmage right now I'm in portmaster hell though
02:08 terminalmage been working for a few hours getting a 9.0 box update to 9.1, upgrading all my installed ports, converting to pkgng
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02:15 Jahkeup Sweet! Sounds like there's some good stuff coming :)) I really do need to stop neglecting my fbsd boxes,
02:15 Jahkeup I've been on an ubuntu rampage since implementing salt everywhere
02:15 Jahkeup not to mention openstack
02:16 Jahkeup terminalmage: I submitted that PR
02:17 terminalmage cool
02:17 Jahkeup if you ever need someone else to test anything on fbsd let me know, I'd be more than happy to help
02:18 terminalmage cool
02:18 terminalmage you ever install from a git checkout?
02:19 terminalmage because I'm going to want people to test the new freebsd support
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02:30 Jahkeup terminalmage: back, um can't say that I have but I can definitely give it a go.
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02:30 terminalmage it's pretty easy with pip
02:31 terminalmage pip install -e /path/to/git/checkout
02:31 terminalmage it'll even go and grab missing prerequisites
02:31 terminalmage like jinja2, etc.
02:32 Jahkeup figured it was that simple. yeah I can definitely try it out for ya
02:32 terminalmage yeah, there's a section that describes how to do it on the docs
02:32 terminalmage http://docs.saltstack.com/topics/hacking.html#installing-salt-for-development
02:34 Jahkeup okay yeah I can run a couple of vms and I'll try it out.
02:34 Jahkeup did the 0mq issue ever get resolved?
02:34 terminalmage what 0mq issue?
02:34 terminalmage there have been several, heh
02:34 Jahkeup I recall there being an issue with library versions provided by the ports
02:34 terminalmage most are resolved by simply using 3.x
02:35 Jahkeup ah okay
02:35 terminalmage yeah zeromq 2.x loses connections a lot
02:36 Jahkeup the problems that were present at the time I started using salt kinda kept me from using it on fbsd
02:36 Jahkeup so I shall have to give it a whirl
02:37 terminalmage yeah, I believe that python-zmq will, if zeromq is not detected, attempt to fetch and build 3.x for you
02:38 terminalmage but I am not 100% sure
02:38 Jahkeup I have to get going for tonight, but I'll bring up a vm tomorrow and try that out
02:38 terminalmage cool
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03:02 Code_Bleu how is the salt-key determined? i have one host that is listed by name and one listed by ip
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03:13 Code_Bleu nevermind, i found it
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04:11 terminalmage Code_Bleu: so you found the bit on how the minion ID is generated?
04:11 Code_Bleu terminalmage: yes
04:11 terminalmage ok
04:11 terminalmage the /etc/hostname parsing is new
04:12 Code_Bleu terminalmage: thanks for the follow up
04:12 terminalmage yeah I don't think that is in 0.16.4 but it'll be in 0.17.0
04:12 terminalmage np
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10:05 movedx Can the Salt Master be configured to get server and state information form a SQL database?
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10:27 jxqz good question
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10:40 movedx jxqz: It would be cool. I'm looking to create an interface for Salt for managing pre-defined solutions.
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10:47 joehh movedx, jxqz: I think you can do this with external pillar data, https://salt.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/development/external_pillars.html
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11:57 bud_ Does anybody know how to run a command on another minion via the peer subsystem? I would like something like cmd.run. Run a command on another minion unless some commands returns 0.
11:57 bud_ It that possible?
11:57 movedx joehh: Yeah an external pillar is likely the route to take :-)
11:58 movedx joehh: I'm waiting on salt-ssh too, but I have other things to be getting on with whilst I wait.
11:58 movedx joehh: Thanks for the link.
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14:47 jcockhren hey. when executing the boostrap script (in a vagrant vm). I get the following error
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14:48 jcockhren https://gist.github.com/jcockhren/6651307
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14:48 jcockhren anyone has experienced this recently?
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14:50 jcockhren just updated it to show the "GPG error"
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15:06 jcockhren the thing is... the bootstrap "used to" work
15:06 jcockhren :(
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15:09 joehh jcockhren: odd - this issue looks similar: https://github.com/saltstack/salt-bootstrap/issues/114
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15:11 jcockhren yeah
15:12 jcockhren joehh: instead of force-yes, let's just add the saltstack ppa pub key to the local key right
15:12 jcockhren ring
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15:14 jcockhren fwiw, I'm also having issues connecting to launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~saltstack
15:14 jcockhren maybe that's the real cause ^
15:14 jcockhren joehh: ^
15:16 joehh very well could be - if it is unable to download the key, then it will fail as you see
15:17 joehh I wodner if this occurs regularly if it was worth putting the key into the bootstrap script or providing another way to download it
15:17 jcockhren lol a haiku
15:18 jcockhren I think embedding the key is a good call
15:19 jcockhren (pub key)
15:19 jcockhren this is the behavior I experienced all yesterday as well
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15:21 jcockhren I can access this:
15:21 jcockhren http://ppa.launchpad.net/saltstack/salt/ubuntu/dists/precise/
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15:26 jcockhren ok. now I can access ~saltstack page
15:27 jcockhren and the bootstrap script executes successfully
15:33 joehh seems to be pretty good confirmation, I wonder what causes the saltstack page to go down
15:35 jcockhren popularity! \o/
15:35 jcockhren I know it happens enough to be annoying
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15:39 joehh :) - yeah it is frustrating
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16:04 zakm hrm topic = "... 0.16.3 is the latest" .. is that correct? http://docs.saltstack.com/ states 0.16.4 = latest?
16:09 joehh zakm: 0.16.4 is the latest - I think the guy who normally updates it has been busy in the last few weeks
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16:09 zakm hey joehh not a problem, thanks
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16:43 Ramkumar hi saltstack mates
16:44 Ramkumar can anyone help me how to write salt coding to automate in linux environment
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16:58 copelco is it possible to make pkgrepo.managed not run apt-get update if the ppa was added previously?
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17:44 zakm hey folks, any rough timelines for 17.0 ?
17:45 zakm there are a couple nices changes related to the pillar system inclluded in 17.0
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18:12 jesusaurus zakm: it looks like there is a v0.17 git tag
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18:17 zakm hey jesusaurus , there indeed is. though still not formally "released"
18:17 zakm so i guess the answer is soon ;-)
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19:30 scristian does anyone has some recipes to deploy openshift with salt ? thanks
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22:25 the_drow are there any PaaS built with salt yet?
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22:49 joehh zakm: 0.17.0rc1 is on pypi - you could try it out
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