Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #salt, 2014-01-25

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00:00 cstelma hello.  I'm trying to use salt for remote execution, and have need of redundancy, so I'm trying to set up multi-master, and this almost works, but after running a command or two on each, the calls start to time out.
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00:02 cstelma sometimes a call on one master seems to trigger the other master to finish a hung call.
00:02 jpeach forrest: no, that doesn't seem to help ... http://apaste.info/3DU1
00:03 forrest jpeach, Hmm, I'm not quite sure then. I've gotta head out for the day, if you figure it out, can you create an issue to update the docs, and tag me (@gravyboat)?
00:03 jpeach forrest: 'k thanks
00:04 forrest jpeach, np, wish I could help more, I look forward to hearing the solution!
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00:18 cstelma from watching (all) of the logs, it seems like the minions aren't hearing job requests from the secondary master.
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00:25 cedwards I'm working through the docs here (http://docs.saltstack.com/topics/tutorials/cloud_controller.html). Can anyone tell me how I can customize the .qcow2 base image I'm using?
00:28 MTecknology this is fun
00:29 MTecknology I just decided that work is going to give me gigabit connectivity.
00:33 fridiculous yeah forrest
00:34 fridiculous who can help me with http://pastebin.com/fXkzBTmv
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00:36 JasonSwindle MTecknology:  sweet
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00:41 kedo39 i made a formula for transmission in case any anyone wants to put it on saltstack-formulas https://github.com/kennydo/salt-transmission-formula
00:41 fridiculous yeah forrest, it's still not working and i'm not sure why
00:41 MTecknology JasonSwindle: ya... given recent events, I decided that I will demand perks. So far, my desktop now has gigabit
00:41 MTecknology fridiculous: he left
00:42 fridiculous thanks TM
00:42 fridiculous MT*
00:42 MTecknology I don't think my laptop would see any benefit from gigabit..
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01:19 MTecknology yay... I have gigabit
01:19 MTecknology I wonder if the networking guys will notice
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01:21 KyleG Your company is weird
01:21 KyleG Everyone in our company has gigabit, I made sure of it.
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01:21 KyleG Sounds like you need an IT team that works FOR you, not against you.
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01:54 dlam is there a way to salt-call a single specific state on a minion?
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01:55 dlam like i got a build_assets:  state that does cmd.run
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02:00 delkins state.sls statename ?
02:00 delkins targeting just the one minion
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02:36 AdamSewell Evening everyone, It is possible to use jinja in an init.sls file correct?
02:37 MTecknology ya
02:37 AdamSewell MTecknology, thanks
02:39 AdamSewell MTecknology, if I were using salt-cloud to create a server and wanted to use the name that i supplied in a init.sls, what would i use as the variable?
02:44 MTecknology I have no idea. I've never touched salt-cloud.
02:45 MTecknology I was going to learn about it at saltconf. My company ripped that away from me.
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02:48 AdamSewell got ya
02:53 MTecknology cachedout_home: he's been flapping this entire day still...
02:54 cachedout_home Oh, sorry. It turns out that I don't have ops on my other account either. I mentioned it to UtahDave but he must not have acted on it.
02:55 MTecknology also... I'm really really pissed that I'm going to miss out on saltconf, pre-conf, the cert test, meeting everyone, learning about salt, and the coding sprint
02:55 cachedout_home MTecknology. Ah, dang. That's lousy. I'm sorry to hear that.
02:56 MTecknology they decided that 1hr before the end of the normal work day
02:56 cachedout_home Let's get in touch after SaltConf to see what we can do about making sure you get as much material as we can and hopefully a chance to take the exam.
02:56 cachedout_home Because I don't want you to be left out.
02:56 MTecknology I don't think I could be too much more upset than I am right now...
02:57 MTecknology just the offer make me want to hug you
02:57 MTecknology I would absolutely love that
02:57 cachedout_home We'll do what we can to take care of you. Touch base with me after the conference and I'll talk to the right people on your behalf. We'll make it right.
02:57 MTecknology Thanks!
02:57 cachedout_home You're welcome. :]
02:57 * MTecknology hugs cachedout_home
02:57 cachedout_home Aw shucks! ;]
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03:42 carmony huh... test.version is reporting twice for one of my minions
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04:10 forrest SpeeR, you are killing me.
04:11 forrest Corey, are you around?
04:11 Corey Sure.
04:12 Corey forrest: What can I do for you?
04:12 forrest Corey, Do you see all this spam from SpeeR?
04:12 MTecknology Corey: Please!
04:12 Corey I was just blowing a hole in my foot via Puppet.
04:12 forrest on a friday night?
04:12 forrest no thanks
04:12 Corey forrest: "speer" in mail.app shows one message from 2010.
04:12 MTecknology forrest: going on two days now?
04:12 Corey So "I don't think so?"
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04:12 Corey Oh!
04:13 forrest he's coming from wavecable, sonic.net, qwest.net, and so on
04:13 forrest been since last night, and it's driving me nuts, lol
04:14 forrest thanks!
04:14 Corey I think that sorted it.
04:14 * MTecknology hugs Corey
04:14 forrest Corey, we can only hope
04:15 forrest why are you dealing with puppet on a friday night
04:15 forrest that sounds terrible
04:15 MTecknology dealing with puppet any days sounds pretty terrible - makes me think of chuckey
04:15 Corey forrest: Oh, I discovered a *lovely* behavior pattern.
04:15 Corey Get this.
04:15 Corey If you define a file resource and don't explicitly declare an owner, what does Puppet do?
04:15 Corey Any guesses?
04:16 MTecknology default to nobody:root?
04:16 cast goes to everyone
04:16 Corey MTecknology: Worse.
04:16 cast as its global scope, eh?
04:16 Corey cast: How would "everyone" apply as an owner?
04:17 MTecknology nobody:www-data?
04:17 Corey It inherits the ownership of *what is on the master.* And it overrides what's on disk-- so if I have a file, /tmp/file.txt on the agent, and it's owned by cquinn, and the version on master is owned by dingus, puppet will EXPLICITLY CHANGE OWNERSHIP OF THAT FILE.
04:17 MTecknology ...
04:17 MTecknology ya, that's nasty
04:17 Corey This was fixed in a version two months ago.
04:17 Corey Yes, it just pantsed me.
04:18 Corey So THAT is why I'm dicking about with Puppet after 8 on a Friday. :-)
04:18 Corey On the plus side I've been granted approval to convert this environment to Salt.
04:18 cast oh...ignore me, i read owner thinking of owning node...but machines aren't people....[that was on my mind as someone misplaced a }].
04:18 Corey So "watch this space"
04:18 forrest heh
04:19 Corey (Oh, and speer's banforward worked.)
04:19 Corey Hooray.
04:19 forrest yea very happy, thanks
04:19 forrest I tried to contact him twice without luck
04:20 Corey Yeah, that's rarely intentional/
04:21 Corey I'll yank it (or anyone else can) once he fixes his nonsense.
04:21 Corey Oh dear god. He's in a LOT of channels.
04:21 forrest lol
04:21 Corey Let me do something else, hang on.
04:21 MTecknology I just noticed that you're staff... Why did I not notice that?
04:22 Corey MTecknology: Because you don't pay attention? :-)
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04:23 Corey Now you see him...
04:23 Corey There we go.
04:24 forrest heh
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04:25 MTecknology indeed... I don't pay enough attention
04:25 Corey (Otherwise he'll wind up banned... pretty much everywhere...)
04:26 Corey MTecknology: What, you thought I was just on IRC all the time because I *loooooove* Salt? :-)
04:27 Corey MTecknology: You coming to SaltConf?
04:27 MTecknology my company just told me today that I will not be going
04:27 Corey MTecknology: That's unfortunate. Want to work for a better company? :-)
04:28 MTecknology right now... I'm open
04:34 jcockhren MTecknology: haha
04:35 jcockhren @ your response. NOT to the fact that they told you all late
04:35 jcockhren at least I thought it was meant in a humorous ton
04:35 jcockhren tone.
04:38 MTecknology jcockhren: not meant to have humour, but that's fine. I intend to demand going next year and will demand nothing be scheduled that could interfere on the grounds that I'm going anyway, employed or not
04:38 Corey Amen/
04:40 jcockhren word
04:40 jcockhren I just quit my day job almost 2 weeks ago
04:41 jcockhren it was one of those places that didn't like investing in employees, etc etc
04:42 Corey jcockhren: Congrats! Let me guess, they wouldn't let you use Salt?
04:42 jcockhren it's funny you say that
04:43 Corey Hah, I was kidding!
04:43 jcockhren it wasn't due to salt, but their culture sucked balls
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04:44 jcockhren their technical debt is soooo ridic
04:45 jcockhren with happens with large companies...
04:45 jcockhren which*
04:45 jcockhren however, they are not a large company. it's a software consulting firm
04:45 jcockhren it's main function is to write quality software for others
04:45 jcockhren and host
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04:45 MTecknology lag is fun
04:46 MTecknology jcockhren: where did you work?
04:46 jcockhren imagine the wild west, with no servers being monitored
04:46 Corey Yeah, I just lagged too.
04:47 MTecknology I blame freenode... that freenody junk always lagging
04:47 MTecknology gosh
04:47 Corey Oops. SO that's what that cable does.
04:48 Corey Back in a bit, Mrs. Quinn informs me that it's dinner time.
04:48 MTecknology hahah!
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10:57 cast supposing i want to run a command on half my minions, i don't care which ones, is there a way to specify say 50%
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17:05 jetole Hey guys. I have a vim.sls which installs vim however the pkg names on ubuntu and centos for vim are different. How can I specify install this pkg on centos and this pkg everywhere else inside vim.sls?
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17:11 cedwards jetole: have a look at the 'using grains in sls modules' section here for an example: http://docs.saltstack.com/topics/tutorials/states_pt3.html
17:12 jetole ah ok. I was using a syntax similar to top instead of Jinja
17:12 jetole thanks cedwards
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18:16 cedwards is anyone using salt-virt to deploy machines?
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20:40 Corey Ooooh.
20:40 Corey https://github.com/0x20h/trex
20:40 Corey (For presentations)
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21:05 Eugene So it's like doing a live demo, but even MORE possibility for failure!
21:08 cedwards do I need to use a certain provider to install packages on fedora 20?
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22:07 ChoHag Is there a salt module to install and maintain the salt minion and/or master?
22:07 forrest ChoHag, there isn't a module for it, but you can easily use states. Check out: https://github.com/saltstack-formulas/salt-formula
22:15 ChoHag Thanks
22:15 forrest np
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23:00 viq forrest: since you're expressed interest, here's my take on gitlab SLS, one of a few floating around. https://github.com/viq/gitlab-formula
23:00 forrest viq, cool!
23:02 forrest man that is a lot of deps
23:02 viq forrest: I didn't try to verify, but that's what the RVM state description says, so I didn't argue
23:02 forrest gotcha
23:03 viq And equivalent of "yum groupinstall 'Development Tools'", since you can't really do a state that does that, AFAIK
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23:05 viq But what I'm proud of, is you just change the version in the pillar, rerun the state, and if the git state changes it triggers all the 'migrate' etc scripts that are needed for an upgrade
23:05 forrest viq, there's the group_install module: https://github.com/saltstack/salt/blob/develop/salt/modules/yumpkg.py#L465 so you could call that with http://docs.saltstack.com/ref/states/all/salt.states.module.html
23:05 forrest viq, yea that is a nice feature
23:07 viq And a pillar controls whether it's http or https
23:08 viq There's much more that could/needs to be done via pillars, but that's a good start ;)
23:08 forrest yea
23:09 viq Ah, that's good to know with the group_install
23:17 viq Ah, no, I lied, the deps are not from RVM but from the install doc I was using, https://github.com/gitlabhq/gitlab-recipes/tree/master/install/centos
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23:19 forrest oh ok
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