Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #salt, 2014-05-03

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00:00 whiteinge you can't easily tell if it's referring to ``apache.sls`` or ``apache/init.sls`` though, so there'd be some hacking around that logic :-/
00:01 whiteinge there's an open ticket to get first-class suport for relative pathing in sls files
00:01 hhenkel whiteinge: My idea was to check for a host specific file before refering to it.
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00:03 manfred Ryan_Lane1: i am not sure you really can, because in the loader.py, it loads all of them up and checks their __virtual_function__, unless the other one is loaded already, you wouldn't be able to see it in the __salt__ dictionary
00:03 forrest hey whiteinge, some jinja expertise. Is there any way to include multiple files from a subdirectory without referencing each one? so something like {% from "apache/* import * with context %} ? Trying to see if you can loop through a bunch of files with jinja.
00:04 hhenkel whiteinge: You're aware of the issue no?
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00:05 whiteinge hhenkel: off the top of my head, i think you'd have an easier time having both .sls files key off an external variable (pillar, or an external file or something). so you'd know if that variable is present the one sls file will be used, and if it's present the second sls file can safely include the first
00:06 whiteinge forrest: not afaik. you could call out to a salt module to get the list of files though then use that in the import
00:06 forrest whiteinge, that's a good idea, ok thanks
00:06 Ryan_Lane1 manfred: yeah
00:07 manfred i can't think of another way to check for it... unless you just flatout import the module and try and run the __virtual__ method
00:07 hhenkel whiteinge: Yes, I agree...problem is...I was thinking about including something like in the pillar top.sls : - common.grains['name'].grains['domain']
00:08 whiteinge you might be able to import the loader in your __virtual__ function and call raw_mod() then look for whatever module-level var gets set. like the ``has_XXX`` variable
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00:08 hhenkel This is fine as long as I only have pillars....no errors...but once you start doing real work with states you'll see errors.
00:10 whiteinge hhenkel: i'm with you there. that'd be tricky
00:11 mgarfias stupid question: is it possible to hook into the 0mq connection to the minions with a non-salt piece of software?
00:11 allanparsons if i cloned salt into my own repo and then branched it, how do i install from that branch?
00:11 forrest allanparsons, just drop the associated code in place usually
00:11 forrest unless you want to build the package first
00:12 allanparsons i wanna install from this branch: https://github.com/allanparsons/salt/tree/supervisord
00:13 allanparsons im fine w/ building the package first
00:13 forrest honestly if you haven't made that many changes I'd just install salt, then drop in the code you modified
00:13 forrest if you want to build the pkg, all the stuff is in the pkg dir
00:14 forrest allanparsons, you could also try and modify bootstrap.saltstack.org to pull from your repo
00:14 forrest can't remember if there is a flag for custom repos though
00:14 allanparsons ok i'll check that
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00:15 allanparsons sweet!
00:15 allanparsons bootstrap will work!
00:16 forrest cool
00:17 allanparsons -g https://github.com/allanparsons/salt.git -M -N git 9ce9456f290c3134f4a3d1b4273eb1dab3927936
00:17 whiteinge mgarfias: what are you trying to do?
00:18 whiteinge there's not an out-of-the-box way to re-use salt's encryption/authentication with an external 0mq app. i think it could be done though
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00:19 whiteinge that said, salt has a metric ton of hooks and interfaces for the various components
00:19 allanparsons forrest:  where does salt install by default
00:19 allanparsons i changed one file
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00:19 allanparsons and want to verify it's changed
00:20 forrest allanparsons, I'd just do a locate on the file and md5sum it versus what you have, it all gets installed into your standard python2.7 dirs
00:20 hhenkel whiteinge: Thanks so far. I'll have to got to bed....it's 02.20 in the morning here...
00:21 allanparsons forrect:  /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/salt/modules/supervisord.py
00:21 allanparsons there?
00:21 allanparsons argh
00:21 allanparsons nope
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00:23 forrest allanparsons, mine is in /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/modules/supervisord.
00:23 forrest *py
00:24 whiteinge hhenkel: np. ttyl
00:24 allanparsons k
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00:26 allanparsons ugh
00:26 allanparsons still not working
00:26 forrest allanparsons, just do this: DevOps/servers
00:27 forrest for i in $(locate supervisord.py); do md5sum $i; done
00:27 forrest compare that against the md5sum of your file
00:27 forrest and you're good to go
00:28 mgarfias whiteinge: just wondering "aloud" if I could ride some monitoring stuff on top of it and exploit the existing connection
00:28 mgarfias i.e.: i hate nagios
00:28 whiteinge sounds about right :)
00:29 whiteinge salt has lightweight "monitoring" capabilities already that sound similar to what you're after
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00:30 whiteinge basically if you fire an event from a minion you can include arbitrary data in that event
00:30 jimklo does anyone know if file.directory can screw up user:group ownership?  I've got a call that sets it to a specific user/group, however it gets changed to some odd user/group combination.
00:30 whiteinge events can be fired on a schedule, e.g., disk usage report every 5 mins, or with a script that checks some kind of threshold
00:30 manfred jimklo: are you using uids or usernames?
00:31 jimklo manfred: usernames
00:31 manfred ok, yeah that should be fine
00:31 manfred can you share you file.directory state?
00:33 jimklo https://gist.github.com/367dc2ac674420840a07
00:34 jimklo ^ manfred
00:34 jimklo manfred: see line 90 - 96
00:35 manfred hrm, yeah i have no idea, looks fine
00:35 jimklo manfred: it seems to set the user to uid 501 and group to 'games'
00:36 mgarfias on another note, is it possible to include a batch of files inside a pillar?
00:37 mgarfias something like include configs/*.sls
00:37 mgarfias putting my app configs in there, and im worried that i'll end up with a 4000 line yaml file
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00:55 jimklo manfred: well apparently it's not that file.directory state... after removing ownership still changes... grr... I'm going to have fun debugging this one...
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04:17 combusean hey, does salt-call have a timeout?  if you run publish.publish cmd.run 'takes_forever' does it wait around for the execution output?
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07:07 jeremyBass anyone around at this time of night?
07:09 Eugene Noboyd but us lunatics
07:10 jeremyBass lol .. happen to know why salt would hang on a pgk install?
07:10 jeremyBass just hangs.. no errors, and nothing in the verbose output
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07:18 jeremyBass i guess I'm left wounding if a counsel could hang salt-bootstrap
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10:54 kahara How can I add and activate a swap file on my minions? I'm using salt-cloud with DigitalOcean and their images don't have swap enabled by default.
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13:03 philipsd6 kahara: Maybe check out mount.swap?
13:04 zekoZeko hey everyone. I'm habing trouble using the lxc module on Ubuntu 14.04. It seems the python lxc bindings are only available for python 3 whereas salt uses python 2.7. Is there a simpler solution than nagging the Ubuntu people to build a python 2.7 package of python-lxc?
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13:28 kahara philipsd6: I did in fact do that (I think…), but being a Salt-noob makes these things hard. You think the approach taken here would be the way to go?: https://github.com/saltstack/salt/issues/9520
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13:34 kahara philipsd6: seemed to work beautifully
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14:28 jcockhren any thoughts? https://github.com/saltstack/salt/issues/12511
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16:19 jeremyBass good morning .. anyone happen to be around?
16:20 jeremyBass i have an issue with salt running.. it just seems to stop with out errror or notice while trying to do a yum pgk install of a list .. just hangs ..
16:20 jeremyBass so at this moment.. i guess I'm left wounding if a counsel could hang salt-bootstrap
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17:44 XenophonF hey is anyone else working on an MSI installer for Salt?
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17:59 XenophonF i ask because the NSIS installer makes bootstrapping Salt minions a little challenging
18:00 XenophonF i'd rather be able to push the minion installer out to my computers using GPO
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18:48 toastedpenguin does salt have the ability to update a config file dynamically when a new minion comes online and if so where is this setup?
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18:56 Eugene toastedpenguin - reactors system
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19:19 toastedpenguin Eugene: can reactor add the IP/hostname of this new minion to other config files?
19:21 Eugene Likely - I don't use it yet, still getting all my infrastructure Salted.
19:21 Eugene Looking at the example at the bottom of the reactor intro page, it should
19:22 Eugene (By setting the tgt: property)
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19:28 manfred toastedpenguin: the reactor system can be used to have the master kick off tasks, when a new minion starts, have it have a specific sls that runs in the startup_states that fires an event on the master, that goes and tells all the minions to check if they have the correct list of ip addresses
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19:34 toastedpenguin manfred: ok, so yeah that is what I am looking for, I have a system the sends messages to instances that are part of a cluster, if a new host comes on line the system needs to know the IP of this new host, currently its a manual config update
19:34 toastedpenguin deployed in AWS so automating is becoming a must
19:34 manfred you can do that with the reactor
19:35 toastedpenguin awesome, time to learn it
19:35 toastedpenguin thanks for the help
19:35 manfred also check out webhooks in the new salt-api
19:35 toastedpenguin you too  Eugene:
19:35 toastedpenguin ok
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19:52 cjhanks I am trying to set a grain value to the output of a command which must be executed on the client node.  The call in particular is an HTTP call.  What is the correct SLS notation for this?
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20:43 beach can anyone tell my why archive in this example is always saying 'already exists' http://pastebin.com/H9cTH9TV
20:43 beach I get that /var/www/ is there, but I want the extract to go to that location!
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20:57 Debolaz http://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/topics/targeting/grains.html#matching-grains-in-the-top-file <- Would 'roles:webserver' be the correct way to match against the example grain here?
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21:21 beach yes, that would work
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23:08 vxitch hey, i have a module.run in a state that i'd like to reuse in other states
23:08 vxitch is there a way to do this? without having to type the whole thing in every state and worry about giving each of it a unique id?
23:09 vxitch it fires an event, if that matters
23:14 vxitch nvm
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23:35 joao hi, I have salt 2014.1.3, according to the docs salt-cloud is merged in salt, but I don't see the salt-cloud command, do I have to do anything to make it work?
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