Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

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01:37 Singularo Any tips for getting proxmox support to work? I keep just getting the error with  'proxmox.get_configured_provider()' could not be found in it..?
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02:08 manfred what version of salt?
02:09 manfred if you aren't running from develop, you won't have proxmox, https://github.com/saltstack/salt/blob/develop/salt/cloud/clouds/proxmox.py#L6
02:09 manfred it will be available in the next feature release which is set to drop a release candidate any day now
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02:48 Singularo Oh Thanks manfred, I assumed that it would be in develop.
02:50 Singularo Wait. I am on develop as I installed with this: sh install_salt.sh -M git develop
02:50 Singularo I previously had the ubuntu packages installed.
02:52 Singularo But installed via the install_salt.sh script to get develop.
02:54 manfred make sure that the old ubuntu packages aren't still running futzing everything up
02:54 manfred otherwise, salt-cloud -l debug should help
02:55 manfred also make sure you have the IPy module
02:55 manfred or it will fail in __virtual__
02:55 manfred https://github.com/saltstack/salt/blob/develop/salt/cloud/clouds/proxmox.py#L67
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03:25 Singularo Wooho, thanks! That ipy hint was it. apt-get install python-ipy and now no more error, thanks manfred.
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03:26 manfred np
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12:57 sectionme Has anyone been greeted with this when using salt-cloud against openstack, "[WARNING ] Private IPs returned, but not public... Checking for misidentified IPs", do I need to specify somewhere that it should only have a private IP?
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17:57 robawt wuddup salt peeps
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19:26 mapu good afternoon. I have a grain set (id) with a FQDN. I need to change this by substituting part of the FQDN. So, the id is admin.wc.domainA.com. I need to set a variable using that, and substituting the domainA.com to ec2.domainB.com. Then, use that result to rwrite the hosts file and /etc/sysconfig/network entry.
19:30 robawt mapu: sounds like a job for jinja
19:30 babilen (or python)
19:31 robawt babilen++
19:31 mapu yep- that’s what I am thinking- trying to figure the best way to handle
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19:32 babilen If it is a straigtforward substitution you can use |replace (cf. http://jinja.pocoo.org/docs/templates/#builtin-filters) in jinja
19:32 robawt nice find
19:32 babilen But then your example might have been a bit too simplified and not actually reflect all cases you'll have to deal with.
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19:35 mapu it actually is that simple (for now). just launched a large number of machines that are now being tested for various groups and the initial domain was set wrong.
19:36 babilen mapu: You could also simply run file.replace interactively -- http://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/ref/modules/all/salt.modules.file.html#salt.modules.file.replace
19:39 stevednd anyone here use the iptables states?
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19:42 babilen be the first!
19:48 robawt ha
19:48 robawt stevednd: you may get a bigger response on Monday
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20:15 babilen An actual question would also be great :)
20:16 babilen Unless stevednd really justs tries to find another person who uses the iptables states
20:18 eliasp ;)
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20:26 mapu Ok- thanks for the suggestions earlier- here is what I placed at the beginning of my sls file to modify my hostnames based on the grains[‘id’]:
20:27 mapu {%- set fqdn = grains['id'] %}
20:27 mapu {%- set fqdn_prefix=fqdn.replace('.domainA.com,'') -%}
20:27 mapu {%- set fqdn_new=fqdn.replace('.domainA.com','.domainB.com') -%}
20:28 mapu that way I was able to use just the short hostname, and then replace the old with the ensuing items such as host.present: and modifying /etc/sysconfig/network
20:30 babilen mapu: Would grains['host'] maybe be useful?
20:32 mapu generally yes. the problem in this case is that we have a hostname of the form name.wc.domain.com
20:33 mapu in this case, replacing with name.wc.ec2.domain.com
20:33 mapu grains['host'] only returns ‘name’
20:33 mapu however- that will be useful for all of my infratsructure (except this one part of course :) )
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20:40 babilen mapu: Why don't you simply use {{ grains['host'] }}.wc.ec2.domain.com ?
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20:45 mapu Hmm- I think yes.
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22:08 vexati0n so... the docs have said "cp.push_dir" is included in Helium.
22:08 vexati0n just upgraded to Helium (i think) and the minion still says cp.push_dir is not available
22:09 eliasp vexati0n: upgraded Master + Minion or only Master?
22:09 manfred vexati0n: how did you upgrade to helium?
22:10 eliasp vexati0n: you can alos ship newer versions of selected modules/states via http://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/ref/file_server/dynamic-modules.html
22:10 manfred be careful with that, they aren't always compatible with older versions
22:10 eliasp vexati0n: so you could stick with the current version and just push out newer versions of those modules/states you want…
22:10 vexati0n eliasp: which version is Helium anyway? it was 2014.1.5 last time I asked. has it changed?
22:10 eliasp yep, sure… I assume he has a dev/test/staging environment to test such things
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22:11 vexati0n and yes both master and minion have upgraded.
22:12 eliasp vexati0n: Helium is the upcoming 2014.7
22:12 vexati0n although the master is on debian and the minions are all centos 5 so it's kind of a pain to keep the versions synchronized.
22:12 babilen vexati0n: Helium is the codename of the next release that has no number yet. It will be YEAR.MONTH.minor
22:12 manfred vexati0n: helium won't have a number until it is released
22:12 eliasp vexati0n: regarding the release codenames etc, see also: https://github.com/saltstack/salt/issues/12672
22:12 manfred if you want helium, you need to install from git
22:12 vexati0n so... they say "helium" but what they really mean is "someday"
22:13 manfred helium is the next helium release
22:13 manfred err
22:13 manfred feature release*
22:13 eliasp :)
22:13 vexati0n ok
22:13 manfred so 2014.x
22:13 vexati0n so 2014.2 or whatever they do
22:13 manfred where the x will be the month it is released
22:13 manfred it is the month
22:13 vexati0n oh. i see
22:13 manfred so probably 2014.7
22:14 vexati0n well. in other news, i could never get Halite to actually work so I coded my own front end around Salt and added MySQL
22:14 vexati0n which looks awesome on a resume..
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22:24 vexati0n also what would be cool is if salt 2014.1.5 didn't try to run iptables every time you do everything.
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22:25 manfred vexati0n: it is fixed in 2014.1.7 which is supposed to be announced on monday
22:25 manfred and is packaged for everything (probably in testing if you are using epel)
22:26 manfred it was fixed in .6, but we found a regression in that one
22:26 babilen I have .7 running already?!
22:26 manfred http://mirror.pnl.gov/epel/testing/6/x86_64/repoview/salt.html
22:26 manfred it is in ubuntu's ppa and on debian, rhel/centos/fedora have to deal with the dumb epel testing and voting thing
22:27 babilen http://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/topics/releases/2014.1.7.html it was released on 2014-07-09
22:27 babilen (not on Monday)
22:27 manfred it is on arch, in ports for freebsd, and
22:27 manfred babilen: it is being announced monday
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22:27 manfred manfred | vexati0n: it is fixed in 2014.1.7 which is supposed to be announced on monday
22:27 babilen Ah, as in: "everybody go and grab it!"
22:27 manfred yeah
22:28 manfred it is packaged for all the distributions. Just announcing it on monday
22:28 babilen Ah . okay .. sorry, more used to "announce a release" == "sent the mail to the mailing lists when you released it" :)
22:28 manfred yeah, that is what it will be
22:28 babilen And then let packagers/maintainers pick it up
22:28 manfred nah, we package it first, then announce it
22:29 manfred which is why 2014.1.6 was never announced, because a regression was found
22:29 babilen Well, you are obviously waiting for selected downstreams to finish their packaging before you announce a release that has already been made.
22:34 vexati0n manfred: yeah I can install 2014.1.7 on the Debian master now, but I have to wait for some kind soul to package it for CentOS 5 before it's useful for me.
22:35 manfred vexati0n: it is in epel-testing
22:35 manfred http://mirror.pnl.gov/epel/testing/5/x86_64/repoview/salt.html
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22:37 vexati0n awesome, thanks! i guess the kind soul is out there somewhere
22:37 vexati0n faith in humanity is up to 0.6%
22:37 manfred terminalmage is the packager of the redhat os packages
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23:15 vexati0n wow. so, installing 2014.1.7 on debian wheezy is a gigantic PITA
23:15 vexati0n i had 2014.1.4 installed just fine, but 2014.1.7 is killing me with dependency errors
23:16 vexati0n needs pything-msgpack, needs "python:any" even though python is installed
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23:27 babilen vexati0n: It shouldn't be an issue at all. Mind pasting it to http://paste.debian.net ?
23:34 vexati0n babilen: http://paste.debian.net/109400/
23:35 vexati0n babilen: background: i'm being sloppy at the moment and telling dpkg to install both amd64 and i386 for python-msgpack (i will build arch detection into the script that runs this). as it is, i get the error on the wrong-arch msgpack which is fine but salt-minion also fails to install because of "python:any" which is dumb because python is already installed.
23:36 vexati0n also it fails even if i tell it to ignore the dependency
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23:39 babilen oh dear .. not tonight. (sorry, lets do this tomorrow)
23:40 vexati0n sure... but at least a hint would be nice ;)
23:48 babilen vexati0n: You have https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO enabled?
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23:53 vexati0n no because of the environment i am in, i need to download all dependencies and feed them to the minions directly
23:53 vexati0n i can't be doing any of these fancy-pants repos
23:53 vexati0n have to tar them up, send them over, unpack and install locally.
23:54 vexati0n but multiarch
23:54 vexati0n ugh... yes it's enabled and no i don't know why.
23:55 vexati0n looks like my debian is all F'd up now that i look at it. 64 bit kernel thinks it is an i386 installation.
23:55 vexati0n woooo now i can yell at my server guys.
23:56 XenophonF well, your username is "vexati0n"
23:56 XenophonF :-/
23:56 vexati0n yeah should have seen that coming.
23:56 vexati0n maybe this is why this machine has been acting weird.
23:57 XenophonF too bad "practicallyperfectineverypossibleway" is so unweidly in chat ;)
23:57 * vexati0n curses loudly
23:57 vexati0n i could change my name to AmishJeb and give up on computers and go into business making quilts.
23:58 vexati0n seems like a viable alternative right now
23:58 XenophonF if it's any consolation i have a centos 6.5 VM that keeps crashing because of oom
23:58 vexati0n maybe i'll make bringing i386 software into the building a terminable offense, like bringing a weapon.
23:58 XenophonF heh

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