Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

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00:25 signull I see its taking favor to libcloud
00:26 signull I am curious if there is any current or in development implementation of libcloud updating dns such as route53
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02:48 Topic for #salt is now Welcome to #salt | SaltConf 2015 is Mar 3-5! http://saltconf.com | 2014.7.1 is the latest | Please be patient when asking questions as we are volunteers and may not have immediate answers | Channel logs are available at http://irclog.perlgeek.de/salt/
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17:58 stoogenmeyer Hey can anyone recommend a book about salt that i can read to get help with using ec2 and docker with salt? Thank you
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18:17 stoogenmeyer Hi can anyone rwcommend a book for working with salt docker and ec2?
18:18 malinoff stoogenmeyer, docs.saltstack.org
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18:33 eliasp IMHO, books are a difficul thing in IT… the requirements, tools, implementations etc. all change way too much that it would make sense nowadays to write a book…
18:33 eliasp s/way too much/way too fast/g
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18:56 stoogenmeyer eliasp, ive been trying to use the docs to get into working with salt, doxker and ec2, but honestly its very overwhelming. Tutorials are nice but fairly basic and i havent been able to find one that fitted my particular use case. So i was hiping to find a book that would ease me into it
18:57 eliasp stoogenmeyer: pick very small tasks you want to accomplish to get into it (e.g. install a package through a state)
18:57 eliasp stoogenmeyer: first go "masterless", meaning: you don't set up the whole master/minion configuration but simply run salt locally on a single box
18:57 eliasp this makes it all way easier in the beginning
18:58 eliasp from there on expand what you're doing bit by bit
18:58 stoogenmeyer Agreed. Although id still be interested in a commercial book about salt.
18:59 bash124512 j
19:02 eliasp stoogenmeyer: then basepi's book is probably the best you can get right now: http://blog.basepi.net/2015/01/my-book-is-available/
19:03 stoogenmeyer eliasp, thats awesome. Thank you!
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20:16 awelkie Hello, what's the best practice for using Salt to manage my application? I'd like Salt to pull down the latest binaries from the master server and check that it's always running. The best I can think of is to make my application into a debian package and use the 'pkg' module, but I wonder if there's an easier way.
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20:25 awelkie Another option would be to use 'file.managed' to manage the binaries, but I'm not sure if I could get the minions to check that the program is running.
20:33 eliasp awelkie: each time you bypass your package manager, god kills a kitten… so the best thing to do would be to build a proper package and provide it through a local repo
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20:40 awelkie eliasp: do you think that would be easier than user Docker?
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21:03 eliasp awelkie: well, Docker is also just a workaround for poor packaging… and Docker injects a lot of other problems into your environment (non-declarative/procedural system builds, non-introspectable environments, …)
21:03 eliasp awelkie: Docker might be solution if you scale really really huge (>5k servers)
21:03 eliasp awelkie: … or for local dev/testing
21:03 eliasp awelkie: but Docker in production should either be avoided or "done right"
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22:53 wincyj_wincyj hello
22:53 wincyj_wincyj i got issue with tar.gz
22:53 wincyj_wincyj http://pastebin.com/vUTXcbxW
22:54 wincyj_wincyj got this state
22:54 wincyj_wincyj and it creates empty 'file' instead of extract archive into specified path
22:54 wincyj_wincyj what am i doing wrong?
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23:42 __number5__ wincyj_wincyj: remove the tar_options line, there is a bug in current version
23:43 wincyj_wincyj well ive already did
23:43 wincyj_wincyj and i was notifed as unknown format
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23:44 wincyj_wincyj so the only way to upload those files is to extract this manually on master and copy file by file?
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23:53 __number5__ wincyj_wincyj: do you have tar installed on your minions?
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23:54 wincyj_wincyj __number5__: works
23:54 wincyj_wincyj its late i hashed diff line
23:54 wincyj_wincyj thanks a lot
23:54 wincyj_wincyj :)
23:54 wincyj_wincyj btw is this bug reported?
23:55 wincyj_wincyj well its strange
23:55 __number5__ wincyj_wincyj: yep, it's on github issues, probably already fixed in develop
23:55 wincyj_wincyj in one case works and when i switch container it doesnt
23:56 wincyj_wincyj ok i will wait for next patch
23:56 wincyj_wincyj ok its really late :D
23:57 wincyj_wincyj i fucked up cfg file, works...
23:57 wincyj_wincyj excuse monologue :D
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