Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #salt, 2015-06-20

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00:41 zekoZeko bloody salt-cloud, i'm trying to make it easy for me to create new lxc containers.
00:41 zekoZeko i can't get any further than default configs
00:41 zekoZeko i can now use lxc.create with backing=zfs after a small patch that i've submitted a PR for.
00:42 zekoZeko i can list the templates on the cloud provider
00:42 zekoZeko maybe i just need to sleep.
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00:42 zekoZeko bah, hoped i'd do more today.
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01:36 zekoZeko i see now i should be on 2015.5.2, which is not in the PPA yet. oh well, i'll create the container by hand for now :)
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01:47 Topic for #salt is now Welcome to #salt | 2015.5.1 is the latest | Please use https://gist.github.com for code, don't paste directly into the channel | Please be patient when asking questions as we are volunteers and may not have immediate answers | Channel logs are available at http://irclog.perlgeek.de/salt/
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04:20 hrumph hi
04:20 hrumph how do I restrict salt usage to certain users?
04:24 iggy hrumph: it's only available to root by default, so you could restrict it with sudo
04:24 hrumph ok
04:25 iggy or use salt's built-in auth stuff and restrict it that way
04:25 hrumph how do i let other users use it without sudo?
04:25 iggy (sudo seems easier to me, but I've never actually done either)
04:25 hrumph i have to use the pam auth stuff?
04:25 iggy yeah
04:25 hrumph does that force others users who are logged in to authorise before they use salt?
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06:06 hrumph why does salt run as root?
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08:07 simmel hrumph: How else could it write everywhere on the filesystem, inpersonate other users and e.g. install packages?
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08:11 hrumph simme i'm talking about on the master
08:11 hrumph on the master the only advantage is that it can use external auth
08:12 hrumph afaics
08:14 hrumph on the minions i understand why it has to be root there
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08:15 arnoldB hrumph: please file an issue on Github :)
08:16 hrumph we both read the same thing
08:17 hrumph but when i read that it makes me think that a non-root salt user should be the default
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08:31 babilen hrumph: I run my master(s) as "salt" and you can even run minions as a different user with a suitable sudo setup in place: https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/ref/configuration/nonroot.html
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08:34 babilen http://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/topics/releases/2015.5.0.html#sudo-minion-settings
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10:41 Nebraskka Is it normal practice to Ctrl+C runned task to set it to background?
10:42 Nebraskka Or it's something like "oh no, you detached from salt, but I'll try to save result, if I could"?
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11:53 tracphil I am trying to configure an Apache virtualhost state using this as an example https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/ref/states/all/salt.states.apache.html
11:54 tracphil What I can't figure out is what the special variable "this" means. Can someone help me determine whatit means?
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14:31 tpaul I'm interested in integrating salt with a web service, is  "netapi" where I should start looking?
14:36 tpaul nevermind, looks like the client api is what I want
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15:16 neonclash Hello all. I can't get salt's mine to update. Minions and master all running 2015.5.0. I see the update being sent in the minion debug log, but I don't see the same packet in the master log. I was using some other mine_functions, but for the sake of debugging I copied the pillar from the mine doc page. I have it included for all minions in top.sls.
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15:18 neonclash salt '*' mine.flush; salt '*' mine update ; salt '*' mine.get '*' network.ip_addrs doesn't return any information from any of the minions
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17:07 iggy neonclash: what happens if you restart a minion process?
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17:15 onorua is there a way to check remote git repository and perform some actions on changes to files? I can see there is "git" module, but could not find the proper way to react on changes so far
17:18 onorua ideally would be to configure it as a gitfs backend for states, and somehow react on states changes
17:23 arnoldB is it just me or is pkgrepo.managed broken on debian? https://np.adm.sx/view/fc6211b1 =>  Failed to configure repo 'deb http://rex.linux-files.org/debian/ wheezy rex': 'handle'
17:24 arnoldB (2015.5.0)
17:24 iggy onorua: you can setup salt-api and have the git repository do a commit hook to hit the api (or a webhook if you're talking github/stash/etc)
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17:28 bbradley howdy
17:29 bbradley is it possible to make certain minions run before others during a highstate run?
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17:30 bbradley i suppose i could use orchestration on those certain minions.
17:30 arnoldB hmm my issue looks like to be related to the specific repo
17:31 zekoZeko hey everyone
17:31 zekoZeko i'm working on shorewall formula and i was wondering how can i detect the version of an installed package?
17:32 zekoZeko thing is shorewall changed the config format in the rules file between 4.5 and 4.6
17:32 zekoZeko and 4.6 is not on Ubuntu 14.04, which I intend to use, but the formula must work for different versions IMO.
17:37 zekoZeko i know about pkg.version but have no idea how to use that in a state.
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17:42 whytewolf zekoZeko: {% set version = salt['pkg.version']('name of shorewall package') %} http://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/ref/renderers/all/salt.renderers.jinja.html#calling-salt-functions
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17:55 zekoZeko thank you!
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18:15 zekoZeko OK, now I see I have to use this in map.jinja because there are more files that need special treatment and I won't check version in each one.
18:15 zekoZeko should this work?
18:15 whytewolf it should
18:16 zekoZeko i have a few lines to paste, just a sec
18:19 zekoZeko this: https://github.com/borutmrak/shorewall-formula/commit/f3fa1b2a913f775ea31e7b917a70d269c43911d2
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18:26 whytewolf unforchantly I am not well versed in map.jinja. [i have only done pits of jinja here are there] but i would move the setting the version out of the map filter function and add it after words.
18:29 whytewolf oh never mind, just saw the doc they do sugest doing it that was
18:29 whytewolf just need to pass a base to the merge
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18:38 zekoZeko this now says Dict object has no attribute shore_version
18:38 zekoZeko when i try to use map.shore_version in template
18:39 zekoZeko oh
18:40 zekoZeko nope, map['shore_version'] was no different
18:43 zekoZeko enough of this, i'll see what the maintainer answers on the pull request, then i'll work on this more.
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18:53 neonclash iggy: Have restarted minions dozens of times, no luck.
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18:58 katyucha just a question : I make a dev environnement from the github but salt-minion -c /my_env/etc/salt --version say me : salt-minion 2015.5.0-1587-g04ce5f2 (Lithium) => Normal ? I want Beryllium
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19:25 neonclash I recreated the minions using debian, still no dice. Going to back up and rebuild the master now
19:27 katyucha neonclash: you say that for my question ?
19:30 neonclash No, I'm having a mine issue
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