Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #salt, 2015-09-20

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10:46 dork anyone dumping state results to slack channels using the slack state?
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16:51 Rebus hi do Isee this correctly that the new dockerng states and modules do not yet support the functionality of docker.run with docked_onlyif ?
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18:15 edrocks_ is there anyway to remove a key if you have an accepted and denied one with the same name?
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18:41 Rebus hrmf the new dockerng module silently ignores my meory settings for a container upon container creation, fails to reset the memory to a correct value on every following state run and even tries to correct it if a container with the correct memory value exists
18:42 Rebus that pretty much as broken as it gets >-/
18:51 edrocks_ Rebus: no ranchers error loops bricking everything every time you do anything is as broken as it gets
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18:56 evocore Hello, does anyone now if salt has something similar to lookup modules in ansible? Basically a way to store secrets on your controller that each host looks up so you don't need to put passwords in the playbooks or code.
18:57 gerhardqux evocore: yes, and it's called pillar
18:57 Rebus evocore: you are looking for pillars
18:58 evocore thank you. I am reading this https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/topics/tutorials/pillar.html now. I am looking to possibly switch ansible to salt but trying to see if it has all the functionality that I am using with ansible
18:58 Rebus nice, the mine module uses the deprecated data.getval function. now everytime i do a state run my screen is cluttered with deprecation warnings  - did anyone even test this?
19:00 evocore Rebus: gerhardqux: I guess the difference with lookup_modules and pillar from what I can tell. is that if you lookup(password) on ansible if that password does not exist (on first run) it generates it, then later uses that
19:03 Rebus evocore: hmm I am sure one could add such a functionality to salt but currently this is not an existing feature afaik
19:04 edrocks_ anyone else have issues upgrading minions from 2015.5 to 2015.8?
19:05 evocore Rebus: is salt extendable, like can I add it on my local copy and have salt use it? versus having to submit and wait for a pr?
19:06 Rebus you can add custom modules/states and tempalte engines, these are configurable in the salt configuration, yes
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19:07 Rebus evocore: for some kind of passowrd generator for pillars you might want to look at external pillars https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/topics/development/external_pillars.html
19:11 evocore Rebus: so for example I could create a pillar interface that checks if a file exists (the file with a password) and then if it doesn't, generate one, and return that to the pillar?
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19:12 Rebus yep
19:13 Rebus afk for a while, need to watch zombies eating brains :-)
19:13 evocore Rebus: awesome, thank you!
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19:48 edrocks anyone use salt to manage development machines(not servers)?
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22:17 Rebus sweet I found out why the dockerng module insist on starting my containers with no memory limit - it uses the wrong api version -.-
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22:30 Rebus unfortunately when froced to the correct api version it still does not send the correct api call :-/
22:39 bluenemo hi guys. Pillar files are becoming a LOT and kinda hard to handle. What possibilities are there to put pillar in some kind of key / value store? I need to be able to code migrations for pillar data when updating formulas.
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22:40 aurynn bluenemo, you can use an external pillar to do that, actually
22:41 aurynn which is itself a function that returns a dict, so pretty straightforward to map things from a KV store
22:42 bluenemo aurynn, ah cool thank you!
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22:43 aurynn bluenemo, as part of the external pillar, you get handed the current `salt` dict, so you should be able to do the same sort of filtering based on what machine is being looked at, if you like. IIRC. Check the docs. :)
22:45 bluenemo ah yes, I thought that :)
22:45 bluenemo would be hard wo filtering :P
22:46 aurynn :)
22:46 aurynn just a bit
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22:53 bluenemo btw - always interesting. what do you preferably use to filter? I usually set id: in /etc/salt/minion and then filter by that. Just the common use case, as in who gets the ssl files for apache and so on..
22:54 Rebus I do use the id too as it is the only trustable grain
22:54 Rebus except for crypted ones set by the master
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23:07 Rebus ah it seems that when one sends a new hostconfig json blob to the docker start api, the original hostconfig from a previous create api call gehts partially wiped ... which is why my containers start without memory limits
23:08 bluenemo Hm well trustable.. if you dont define it in /etc/salt/minion, it dynamicly changes with the hostname
23:13 Rebus bluenemo: if it changes afaik the key has to change too, and the master has to reauth it
23:13 bluenemo ah yes. thats true.
23:14 bluenemo (as far as i know)
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23:14 bluenemo sure it doesnt just change when you change the hostname and service restart salt-minion? i think it will then try to re-auth with the master using the new id
23:14 bluenemo (hostname)
23:14 bluenemo Rebus,
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23:18 Rebus I have not tried changing a minions id while running but i guess i should
23:19 Rebus hmm it warns me that overwriting the id will invalidate the key so thats what i want
23:20 Rebus I don't want a minion posing as another without my salt-masters consent
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23:44 bluenemo yeah. that shouldnt work out
23:44 bluenemo however whats interesting - i migrated some minions, i use salt via openvpn only so the ips didnt change to - if you copy the salt keys and stuff, salt doesnt notice at all :)
23:44 bluenemo (if you dont use the reactor :P)
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23:49 Rebus Well yes given access to another minion one could steal its identity, but then you already ahve access to all the data that minion is allowed to see.
23:50 Rebus I mainly try to liomit access of a minion to the states and pullar data only they are allowed to see.
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