Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

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03:19 webster5361 Hello everyone. A bit new to salt here. So I am having a strange problem. I have a salt master and a salt minion installed on 2 separate instances of Ubuntu 14.04 (VirtualBox) with the salt version at 2015.5.3 (Lithium). After doing the install, and then accepting the key from the minion on the master server, I issue the command: sudo salt '*' cmd.run 'hostname'. The command is issued and is returned twice. Here is a gist for my cur
03:20 webster5361 https://gist.github.com/webster5361/aadbaf4814810d789ed3
03:20 webster5361 I was wondering if anyone has run into this before?
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03:31 racooper what happens if you do a salt-call on the minion?
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03:35 Slimmons also, another noob here.  since he doesn't have any states specified, how would he go about executing a salt-call
03:35 Slimmons I've only seen salt-calls used for state.highstate, but I've also only read a small fraction of hte docs
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03:41 webster5361 So I am not 100% sure how to run the salt-call. But here is something interesting. If I run: sudo salt '*' cmd.run 'date +%s%N'  I get the following output:  minion01: 1448595564161669387    minion01: 1448595564162796479
03:41 webster5361 So, it is indeed executing the command twice.
03:41 RobertChen can salt run different sections in simutanesouly ?
03:42 webster5361 I haven't set up any sections / states etc. I have installed the salt-master and salt-minion, accepted the keys, and just trying to get the cmd.run to execute properly before continuing on to set up more things.
03:43 RobertChen my customer want to finish 3000 configuration files in one minute
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03:57 racooper salt-call can run any command on the minion that can be run from the master
03:58 racooper https://docs.saltstack.com/en/develop/topics/troubleshooting/index.html
04:00 racooper webster5361, have you killed all minion processes and restarted it?
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04:04 webster5361 I have not killed the minion processes. let me do that now.
04:05 webster5361 just ran several commands... killing the minion processes and then starting it again, seemed to correct the problem.
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04:07 webster5361 Wow, thanks a lot. I have restarted the minion a few times. Any idea why doing a killall and a start worked over a restart?
04:08 racooper because stop and restart with the init script only affects the processes it started.
04:09 racooper if other processes got started outside of that the wouldn't be stopped
04:09 racooper s/the/they/
04:09 webster5361 good point. Just the same, thanks a ton for the help.
04:12 racooper you're welcome.
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06:01 ralish Hi all, Salt/Jinja question hopefully someone can help with. I'm writing a formula for a process supervisor which includes configs for processes it manages (e.g. conf.d/app.conf)
06:01 ralish The formula has handling for managing the included confs (copying them in, potentially removing unknown ones, etc...). here's a sample Jinja map to give you an idea: https://gist.github.com/ralish/7582a85e2b4a277ef720
06:02 ralish What I'd *like* to do is easily extend the "included_confs" dict with other configs from other formulas (corresponding to processes who'll be managed). But I'm having a hell of a time finding out a sensible way to do it
06:02 ralish If all the data is put in a pillar, it's easy, as it'll be merged in by the base Jinja map, but I'd like to include various defaults for the managed processes that will use/extend this formula so as not to pollute the salt pillar's w/ lots of defaults
06:03 ralish (also, some of those defaults might be programmatically determined based on data that is in a different map, and so not easily accessible from the pillar to my knowledge)
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06:03 ralish Any suggestions? I've tried using something like Jinja's {% extend %} but couldn't get it to work properly. Guessing a scoping issue?
06:04 iggy don't use jinja?
06:04 whytewolf ^^^
06:04 iggy this sounds like something much easier to do using the py renderer (or some other renderer)
06:04 ralish right, might need to look at other renderers then I guess
06:05 ralish So there's no way to easily extend/modify/update the data from a Jinja map from a different state from what it will be used in?
06:06 ralish e.g. map.jinja -> imported by custom.sls which modifies it -> ultimately used by app.sls
06:06 iggy anything is possible
06:07 aurynn at zombosalt
06:07 ralish I was hoping for something more specific :>
06:07 whytewolf ralish: with out having the ability to add extensions to jinja the default setup is rather limited on what you can and cannot do in jinja. and this sounds like it will be a ton of dict/list work. which might be able to be cobbled together in jinja. [which would look like a nightmare in the end] would be easy in the py render
06:07 MTecknology iggy: unless you're using cobol
06:07 iggy my old boss would disagree
06:07 ralish Time to look at the py renderer by the sounds of it!
06:08 iggy if you know python it's easy peasy
06:08 MTecknology iggy: can cobol handle tcp sockets?
06:08 ralish Enough to get by
06:08 MTecknology ralish: I've never needed it, but it's really super easy
06:08 iggy there are also other renderers that might be easier to handle this than jinja (somewhere in the middle
06:09 whytewolf pyobjects
06:09 ralish MTecknology: Yeah, looking at the docs now, should be fairly straightforward! Which is great
06:10 ralish We don't need to do anything conceptually difficult, just some more advanced configuration fiddling for the state files than is typical for templating
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06:10 irctc480 hey  I quick question,  sls file does not support "dot" in the file name ?
06:11 whytewolf irctc480: huh
06:11 iggy no (even if it does, it's a terrible idea)
06:12 irctc480 :) Great .. spent 1/2 hr to figure out that
06:12 MTecknology ralish: That's why *LOVE* salt! Everything is either straight forward and sensible or you're doing it wrong.
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06:13 iggy MTecknology: you in SD for the holidays?
06:18 MTecknology yup!
06:18 MTecknology You back home too?
06:18 iggy LA is home now
06:18 MTecknology drinks wednesday?
06:19 iggy probably not, I'm flying out Thursday to go... where some of my family lives ;)
06:20 MTecknology heheh
06:20 iggy next Wednesday
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06:22 MTecknology sure
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09:27 mortis no black friday salt enterprise deals? :o
09:31 xmj haha
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09:36 santamanno morning
09:36 santamanno i will repeat myself
09:36 santamanno has anybody ever run salt on a limited ram embedded device
09:36 santamanno limited such as 64MB
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09:45 santamanno silence is golden
09:45 santamanno you guys must be filthy rich
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09:52 AndreasLutro silence tends to mean "no" :p
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10:22 xmj typically the salt masters i've seen in the wild have a high multiple of 64 MB
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11:11 ztgst hi salt
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11:13 ztgst I'm trying to do a test run (i.e test=True) with the LocalClient API, but i can't figure out how to do that... would someone know how to do that ?
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11:16 ztgst so far i've tried "client.cmd('minion', 'state.sls', ['my.state'], kwargs={'test':True})" and  "client.cmd('minion', 'state.sls', ['my.state'], test=True)"
11:18 ztgst (salt 2014.7.5 (Helium))
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11:19 AndreasLutro maybe ['my.state', 'test=True'] or ['my.state', {'test': True}]
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11:23 ztgst ['my.state', 'test=True'] worked, looks like I misunderstood the docs...
11:23 ztgst Thank you Andreas !
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11:45 nil0z Hi! We just started on salt and it works fine. For other purposes (VPN) we already operate a litte CA that produces a certificate for each machine and maintains  a revocation list of retired certificates. Now we'd like to use this for authentication of salt minions (so we can skip the "salt-key -[a|d]" business). I've found https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/ref/auth/all/salt.auth.pki.html, which seems to be designed for this purpose
11:46 nil0z But it doesn't mention revocation lists
11:46 nil0z Has anyone managed to get certificate-based minion authentication going with revocation?
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13:41 sathya Hi
13:42 sathya I have a host IP address, i need to find out which host is using that ip address
13:42 sathya how can get that information using salt
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13:57 beep-beep hi! I need a state, that waits until a certain application is ready by polling a specific URL. Do I have to implement it in python, or can I get away with pure .sls, e.g. by somehow looping over http.query state?
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14:27 AdamSewell Just for a quick clarification, it's my understanding that the top.sls automatically applies the states under a matched group (a node group in my case) once their key is accepted. is that correct?
14:28 Ahrotahntee upon highstate. not key acceptance. iirc.
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14:39 AdamSewell Ahrotahntee, ok thanks
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14:44 sathya hi all
14:44 sathya how to use file.replace with count
14:45 sathya when i try to change a specific word on sshd_config, it changes all the line which match that word
14:45 sathya All i want is to do this just once
14:45 sathya i used salt <hostname> file.replace < filename> count=1
14:45 sathya sorry
14:45 sathya salt <hostname> file.replace < pattern> <repl> count=1
14:46 sathya but it changes all the line which matach the word
14:46 sathya can some one help me with the syntax, if its wrong
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14:51 sathya can some one help me ?
14:53 AdamSewell sathya, I'm no expert, but i might look at the file.line module instead
14:56 sathya Thanks Adam, can you share me a simple syntax of that command
14:57 Norrland sathya: https://docs.saltstack.com/en/2015.5/ref/modules/all/salt.modules.file.html#salt.modules.file.replace
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15:03 sathya my salt master is 2015.5.5 but i think the latest is 2015.8.1
15:03 xmj update all the things
15:03 sathya even i try to update, the repo is showing 2015.5.5 as latest
15:03 sathya RHEL 6
15:04 Norrland sathya: did you try the "salt '*' file.replace /etc/httpd/httpd.conf pattern='LogLevel warn' repl='LogLevel info'" example?
15:04 Norrland sathya: with your file and pattern ofc.
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15:04 sathya Norrland, yes it tired
15:05 sathya the command I am trying here is to replace # wheel to just wheel in sudoers file
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15:05 sathya when i execute the command, it changes 2 other files which are already commented, which is something i dont want to do
15:06 sathya I just want only the first line to change...
15:06 Norrland sathya: can you please pastebin your command and the file contents that you want to change?
15:06 sathya sure
15:09 sathya http://pastebin.com/cJE4zH0e
15:10 sathya xmj: As said the latest showing on my master is just 2015.5.5
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15:20 sathya xmj: i got that issue sorted out
15:20 sathya My repo was wrong which was updating just the 2015.5
15:20 xmj aha
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15:27 sathya Norrland: Any guess on the pastebin ?
15:27 colegatron Hi all. I'm just moving from masterless to master approach. When configuring the master, I've seend the auto_accept option. Seems a good idea to enable auto_accept, but only if there is someway to prevent to minions to run salt-call state.highstate and be only managed from within the saltmaster
15:28 colegatron there is anyway to forbid minions run states by themselves?
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15:38 mage_ let's say you have 30 Python webapps to deploy, each webapp has it's virtualenv. Do you build the 30 venvs on the server directly ?
15:39 mage_ ATM I'm doing this with SaltStack, it works very well, but I wonder if there is a way to build the venv on a build-like machine and just put it on the server (so that I can remove the compiler, don't use CPU, etc)
15:40 ntropy can you package the venv?
15:40 ntropy or tar.gz it?
15:41 mage_ it's difficult when you have things like C extensions, etc
15:41 xmj mage_: what you can do, which is somewhat nicer, is run your own pypi server then pull everything you need in the venvs from it
15:42 mage_ mmh
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15:44 mage_ I have some RoR webapps too, for which I use rbenv
15:45 mage_ unlike  virtualenv there is no way to use the "system" version, each rbenv builds it's own ruby
15:45 xmj how often do you deploy them?
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15:45 mage_ not that much, it works very well ATM, but I just wondered about best practices
15:51 sathya Hi Iam trying to inseart a line in sudoers file using file.line but i get the error as " ERROR: Found less than expected occurrences in "after" expression"
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15:51 sathya My syntax :  salt <hostname> file.line  /etc/sudoers "%wheel      ALL=(ALL)       ALL",after="# %wheel      ALL=(ALL)       ALL", mode='Ensure'
15:51 sathya Please let me know whats wrong with the syntax
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15:55 sathya Can some one help me on the syntax please
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16:04 sathya I got the requirenment sorted out using sed
16:05 sathya for those of who having the smilar issue, this is the command i used to achive my goal
16:05 sathya salt <hostname> cmd.run "sed -i '110i %wheel      ALL=(ALL)       ALL' /etc/sudoers"
16:05 sathya line number is constant on all the sudoers file script
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18:37 sathya I am running a job and it just goes as a flash in a sec, how can i see the output of a job after the job is done
18:38 sathya is there any command which can give me the success & failed resutlt separatley
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18:41 whytewolf sathya: you want the job runner for looking up past events https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/topics/jobs/index.html
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19:03 sqwishy When running salt from the command line, can I do something like "echo foo | salt cmd.run cowsay" instead of "salt cmd.run cowasy stdin=foo"?
19:13 whytewolf :/ sigh, that looks like you are heading down a dark path. and no you can not pass stdin into salt exacute modules. the closest you could possably do is set bash varables and use those. [as they would be expanded before the command ran]
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20:02 sqwishy whytewolf: Why is that a dark path>
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20:12 whytewolf sqwishy: lots of cmd.run, no state structure. no defined settings. and trying to pass output from the master as input on the minion. leads to overly complex setups that will need a ton more documentation, as well as a troubleshootinger nightmare.
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20:21 whytewolf and one of the reasons i am glad i left IGT as that is the road they had gone down
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21:06 sqwishy whytewolf: I see. I was just going to pipe fortune into it and run cowsay on the minions or something just as an exercise
21:07 sqwishy Not as an actual part of the system we're writing
21:07 sqwishy But that's probably a good point to keep in mind
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