Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #salt, 2015-11-28

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00:00 RandyT realizing that this might be a tough time to catch someone....
00:00 RandyT https://github.com/saltstack/salt/blob/develop/salt/modules/mssql.py#L60
00:01 RandyT If someone is around to help, I am confused by what is happening on that line and the required pillar configuration that is mentioned at the top of this file.
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00:03 RandyT my pillar looks like this: https://gist.github.com/rterbush/0de17cbfcc0840e186be
00:04 RandyT executing this module is not picking up the pillar data. I can see the pillar data on the minion with pillar.items
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00:09 whytewolf RandyT: config.option https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/ref/modules/all/salt.modules.config.html#salt.modules.config.option
00:09 whytewolf RandyT: config.option pulls infromation from a minions config. and then a pillar to see if it matches the wanted value
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00:09 RandyT whytewolf: should have known you were around...
00:09 RandyT thanks for this.
00:09 whytewolf ... do i really not have a life?
00:10 RandyT apparently we don't... or you don't like turkey... :-)
00:11 whytewolf but yeah config.option is what is used if you are unsure if it will be a config option or a pillar or other.
00:11 whytewolf lol. I love turkey. just don't have a lot of family
00:12 RandyT not clear to me how I make this available to the module and why it is not accepting what I am giving it in the pillar.
00:17 RandyT so it seems this is expecting those values to be at top level of pillar if I understand correctly.
00:18 whytewolf RandyT: it excpets mssql.server not mssql:server
00:19 RandyT ok, and I guess it looks for it at top level of the filter, if I am using that term correctly...
00:19 RandyT will play around with that.
00:19 whytewolf just posted a comment on your gist
00:19 RandyT Looks like you are in the city of lights, so I cannot share my turkey with you.
00:19 RandyT thanks again, you are appreciated
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06:59 Sam_ I've been learning Salt recently. I read that Salt states support both declarative and imparative paradigms.
06:59 Sam_ In doing both, it doesn't support declarative fully
07:00 Sam_ Specifically, it allows conflicting states to both be present. For example, file is present and absent
07:01 Sam_ In the declarative paradigm, this is not allowed. It's an error since it can't be both
07:01 Sam_ But in this case Salt follows the imparative paradigm and applies one state then the other
07:03 Sam_ This makes it difficult to determine what the final state will be
07:04 Sam_ Furthermore, salt state files describe a conglamorate of state and process
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07:08 Sam_ In my opinion, Salt should support the declarative paradigm better by throwing an error if states conflict (alternatively, the paradigm could be configurable)
07:08 Sam_ But what do you think?
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07:39 babilen Sam_: I think that it would be hard to model (as you would, essentially, need an underlying logic to find conflicting assignments), but certain dependencies might be easier. In the grand scheme of things it might even be advantageous to keep it the way it is, as that allows you to say "first gone, then back again"
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15:34 RandyT_ good morning.. running into a snag here where I was expecting to be able to use an mssql.user_exists module function to render jinja to allow me to safely run highstate the multiple times it seems to require on a minion target.
15:35 RandyT_ Now discovering that I don't have the necessary python modules on the minion to allow this to work.
15:35 RandyT_ does the jinja get rendered after a reactor is triggered, that I might use reactor to install the required software before the state file rendering starts?
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16:20 spaceSub Hey, is it possible to create kvm VMs on a salt minion, install a salt minion in them and configure the minions in one highstate run?
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16:23 spaceSub If so, are their any examples out there?
16:24 spaceSub Maybe the solution wouldn't even be kvm specific. I'm not quite sure.
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16:39 iggy sounds like maybe a job for orchestrate
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20:16 spaceSub iggy: Looks promising, (and even works with salt-ssh, yay) thanks for the nudge.
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21:47 colinstgeorge Yo Guys
21:48 colinstgeorge all of a sudden, my foreman instance stopped getting updated from salt-master... ive done some digging and it appears to be when upload-salt-reports calls jobs.jist_jobs...
21:49 colinstgeorge so i went and manually ran salt-run jobs.list_jobs and i get http://hastebin.com/usulineboy.coffee
21:49 colinstgeorge idk where to begin troubleshooting
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22:12 colinstgeorge well.. idk what the actual issue is.. but my hackaround: http://snag.gy/iv3tH.jpg
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23:21 AdamSewell does anyone know a way to grab the cpu usage on a windows minion?
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