Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

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02:40 viict Hello, i have this schedule https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0d5b6fe0900f8db428d18afd308ef94f and i can't seem to find an way to correctly set the instance name to be stopped, what can I do to schedule this instance stop?
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02:47 Topic for #salt is now Welcome to #salt! <+> Latest Versions: 2016.3.4, 2016.11.1 <+> Support: https://www.saltstack.com/support/ <+> Logs: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/salt/ <+> Paste: https://gist.github.com/ (please don't multiline paste into channel) <+> See also: #salt-devel, #salt-offtopic <+> Ask with patience as we are volunteers and may not have immediate answers
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07:42 iggy gtmanfred: if you need help, I might be able to get some hours to work on it
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08:11 flunk_ moin
08:11 flunk_ so I'm trying to get salt-minion to work on openbsd
08:12 flunk_ but it crashes with Invalid argument (src/ip.cpp:117)
08:12 flunk_ after opening the pull socket
08:12 flunk_ any ideas?
08:14 iggy check tickets?
08:16 flunk_ yeah, been doing that
08:18 flunk_ might be related to https://github.com/saltstack/salt/issues/23246
08:18 saltstackbot [#23246][OPEN] IPv6 on OpenBSD | Hello,...
08:18 flunk_ but this is only a minion
08:20 iggy I know there was someone working on openbsd... but that might have been a year or so ago
08:20 flunk_ :(
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08:37 flunk_ Ok fuck it
08:37 flunk_ I'm going with ansible
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10:05 Yee Hi
10:05 Yee good time to ask question
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10:15 babilen Isn't it always?
10:17 LotR babilen: there's definitely quiet periods in here
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10:39 Yee i made some changes in the pillar configuration
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10:40 Yee not sure how to push the changes to all the minions
10:40 pcdummy Yee: you can always include a pillar in other pillars.
10:41 Yee pcdummy: not sure clear
10:42 pcdummy Yee: make a common.sls then include in your hosts with "include: - common"
10:43 pcdummy Yee: after that you can (but try it first one a single host) "state \* state.highstate"
10:47 Yee got it thanks.
10:49 remyd1 a basic question : how to know if a minion is also a master in a salt state ?
10:50 remyd1 I was thinking looking if salt or salt-run command exists...
10:51 haam3r remyd1: grains has a master value..maybe comparing if that grains master value equals the minions host name or something
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10:52 remyd1 haam3r, I thought to this also, but I am resetting the master values in this current state...
10:52 remyd1 I will do it with file.present
10:53 remyd1 file.exists
10:53 babilen Yee: Waht do you mean by "push" ? Do you simply want to apply changes to your pillar top.sls ?
10:53 babilen Or do you want to make data in a SLS available to all minions?
10:54 ANdy__ Hi, is it possible to use pkg.remove (install) on windows packages that contains cyrillic symbols in names ?
10:55 haam3r remyd1: Simply checking if the master configuration file or pki/master dir is present on the minion?
10:56 babilen ANdy__: You could try it
10:56 remyd1 haam3r, yes :) or just the salt binary
10:57 ANdy__ i try, but i got error "charmap codec can't encode characters in position ... "
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10:58 ANdy__ i enabled yaml_utf8 but it didn't help
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12:01 bookwar1 hi all, how can I verify that configuration option I specified in salt master config file is actually applied on the current running salt master? in particular env_order option.  I tried "salt-call config.get env_order" but it gives nothing
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12:02 viq bookwar1: there's a setting for master options to be included in pillars, maybe that way? I don't know the default value for that flag though.
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12:03 bookwar1 i am trying to understand if i can ignore this warning https://github.com/saltstack/salt/issues/29104 or my configuration is wrong and env_order is not applied properly, but not sure how to do that
12:03 saltstackbot [#29104][OPEN] Merging Order warning | Waring:...
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12:08 viq bookwar1: they show commands to verify ;)
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12:10 bookwar1 salt-call state.show_top ? it still shows the warning, even though I specify env_order and restart salt-master
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12:25 viq yeah, but it shows in what order it merges stuff, I believe
12:25 viq and the result
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12:42 arount hi there, I wonder how long data of 'job.list_jobs' are stored ? Can I fetch all jobs since salt-master is up ?
12:43 arount (and don't find out after searching the info)
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13:39 mTeK My salt master is ubuntu 14.04 and I am running a command against a freebsd11 minion and am getting Minion did not return. [No response]
13:40 mTeK I see that the command is still running on the minion from top
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13:40 mTeK How do i diagnose this problem
13:44 viq mTeK: first question - what versions?
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13:45 mTeK Sorry let me look I beleive 2016.1
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13:46 viq mTeK: same version on master and minion?
13:46 mTeK Master salt 2016.3.4 (Boron) minions just updated them selfs to salt 2016.11.1 (Carbon)
13:47 mTeK I was running a pkg upgrade -y command that wasn't returning
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13:50 mTeK Let me see if I can get it to produce the same error with sleep
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13:50 mTeK Sleep 60 causes the it not to return
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13:52 mTeK Any command that run longer than 14 seconds doesn't return
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13:54 remyd1 Hey, how to write "if 'something' not in mylist" in jinja ? Actually my statement does not seem to work but it works in basic python
13:55 viq mTeK: you do *NOT* want minions newer than master.
13:55 remyd1 although "{% if 'something' in mylist %}" works ?!
13:55 viq remyd1: how about {% if ! 'something' in mylist %}    ?
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13:56 mTeK Yes I am upgrading all minions and then the master now.
13:56 viq mTeK: no, you upgrade master *FIRST*
13:56 mTeK I didn't know that the minions were updating to
13:56 mTeK OK
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13:57 art5005 Is there a way to use both a node-group and a target within a salt command?
13:57 viq At least if you care about them being able to communicate. If you're fine with doing it all over ssh, then sure, just don't count on new minions talking with newer master
13:57 art5005 Ie, I want to target specific minions within a nodegroup without creating a new nodegroup.
13:57 viq art5005: compound matchers?
13:58 art5005 Is there a compound matcher for a nodegroup though?
13:58 remyd1 viq, failed: Jinja syntax error: unexpected char u'!' at 46; line 3
13:58 viq remyd1: then replace ! with not
13:58 art5005 ie,  salt 'service* and N@nodegroup' state.apply
14:00 viq art5005: seems I was mistaken in thinking that compound matchers included nodegroups
14:01 mTeK Master and that one minion i'm working on are the same version, Just ran sudo salt 'amtn*' cmd.run 'sleep 20'
14:02 mTeK It returned this Salt request timed out. The master is not responding. If this error persists after verifying the master is up, worker_threads may need to be increased.
14:02 viq mTeK: try increasing timeout value with -t
14:03 remyd1 viq, I think i did a mistake. My if is always true
14:04 remyd1 that's why it did not work
14:04 mTeK This competed sudo salt -t 30 'amtn*' cmd.run 'sleep 20'
14:04 daxroc Afternoon all
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14:59 daxroc Can you use salt mine in --local execution ?
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15:01 ssplatt daxroc: i’d guess no. because it needs the master process. but maybe, just the local machine info?
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15:03 daxroc I'm trying to obtain a uuid generated during an application in order to provide it to future configuration later in the state. I have custom grain that I can lookup but I'm rendering the value of the grain in a jinja template as it turns out I'm not able to reload the grains or rather doing so is mute as the jinja would have been rendered right ? what are
15:03 daxroc alternatives here ?
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15:53 tobithiel I'm trying to access a grain value in a pillar. My understanding was that pillars are rendered by the salt-master and it has access to the grains of the minion it is rendered for. For me grains.get returns None though as if the grain wouldn't exist. I put together the files and exact errors here: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/77d93d99d9a32cc6f19d5263e486929e Does anyone have an idea what I'm missing or doing wrong? Or is what I
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15:54 gtmanfred do a salt \* saltutil.refresh_modules
15:54 gtmanfred and it should update the grains cache on the master
15:54 gtmanfred did you do a restart of the minion after you added the grains dictionary to the minion config file?
15:54 gtmanfred i would also highly recommend putting your grains in /etc/salt/grains so that they do not require a minion restart
15:59 gtmanfred tobithiel: ^^
15:59 tobithiel @gtmanfred just ran salt \* saltutil.refresh_modules before and after restarting my minion and the error persists.
16:00 tobithiel thanks for the info about /etc/salt/grains, I'll try to use that going forward
16:00 Brew render error in servers.qa.  problem with the syntax?
16:00 gtmanfred Brew: yeah... the grains.get('role') returns None...
16:01 gtmanfred tobithiel: are you on salt 2016.11?
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16:01 tobithiel gtmanfred: develop branch
16:01 gtmanfred tobithiel: do a salt-run cache.grains 'role:qa' expr_type=grain
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16:02 gtmanfred the should check the masters grain cache
16:03 tobithiel the indentation in my gist is a little wrong for the sls I just realized, but it's fine on the server
16:03 tobithiel gtmanfred: salt-run cache.grains 'role:qa' expr_type=grain didn't help either :/
16:04 gtmanfred can you do a salt-run cache.grains 'servername' for the one with that role, and see if it is in the grains?
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16:04 gtmanfred you might have to do a cache.clear_grains '*' and just clear them all, and then do a refresh_modules again
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16:05 gtmanfred salt-run cache.clear_grains '*'
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16:07 gtmanfred iggy: i am working on the salt-cloud driver today, hopefully to be done in the next week or so.  Then I am going to start on the modules.  Hopefully be the end of next week i will have an idea on how much work it is going to be and will let you know
16:07 gtmanfred thanks!
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16:10 tobithiel gtmanfred: it is in the output of cache.grains, salt-run cache.clear_grains '*' throws "TypeError: argument of type 'bool' is not iterable" for me
16:11 tobithiel both executed on the master
16:12 gtmanfred hrm
16:12 gtmanfred so, the minions grains should def be in there https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/topics/tutorials/pillar.html#parameterizing-states-with-pillar
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16:13 gtmanfred can you add the output of salt-run cache.grains 'minionname'  to the girst?
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16:14 gtmanfred actually, that is super weird, because it is definitely matching on it when sending pillars
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16:25 tobithiel gtmanfred: https://gist.github.com/tobithiel/76f4652497b47318e4fec30f860e9808
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16:30 gtmanfred hrm
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16:31 gtmanfred yeah, that should be working
16:31 gtmanfred esp since it is clearly matching it in the pillar top.sls file
16:32 gtmanfred would you double check 2016.11? and then make a github issue about this?
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16:38 tobithiel gtmanfred: Yeah will do. I'll try to make a self-contained example out of it.
16:38 tobithiel thanks for your help so far!
16:39 gtmanfred thanks!
16:41 daxroc I've a --local and server question around execution. For a node/instance thats matched with two grains from a top file is there a reload of grains and or does it under go two compilations on the jinja for each match ?
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16:42 daxroc or is it a single compilation of the jinja including both matches
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16:58 gtmanfred for states, the minions do the jinja rendering
16:58 gtmanfred and if you run a highstate, it does a modules refresh, which includes a grains refresh
16:59 gtmanfred https://github.com/saltstack/salt/blob/develop/salt/state.py#L3039
16:59 gtmanfred right there
16:59 gtmanfred https://github.com/saltstack/salt/blob/develop/salt/state.py#L3519
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17:21 iggy gtmanfred: rgr, if you get to a point where you think someone else can help, feel free to share current work and your vision and I'll try to get some time to help out
17:22 MajObviousman so states are rendered by the minion, but pillar data is rendered by the master and only what applies to a minion gets sent, correct?
17:27 gtmanfred iggy: will do! thanks!
17:27 gtmanfred MajObviousman: yes
17:28 MajObviousman thanks. I think I need to trim my pillar because it's gotten out of control
17:28 gtmanfred MajObviousman: https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/ref/states/layers.html
17:28 MajObviousman ah yes, I've read through this page before but it's been a while. Thanks for the href
17:29 MajObviousman this channel is great, you guys are super helpful
17:29 gtmanfred and then the information about pillars is here https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/topics/tutorials/pillar.html
17:29 gtmanfred :D
17:30 gtmanfred ugh, why is it soooo cold in texas
17:30 MajObviousman don't worry, we'll get back up to 70 next week
17:30 gtmanfred good
17:30 Reverend cya next week chaps :)
17:30 Reverend <3
17:30 gtmanfred o/
17:30 MajObviousman I wish I was kidding: http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/plano-tx/75074/daily-weather-forecast/340969?day=5
17:30 gtmanfred it is below freezing right now... which is not helping my sourdough starter that I am trying to get going
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17:31 gtmanfred sweet! i am excited for tuesday
17:31 gtmanfred http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/san-antonio-tx/78205/daily-weather-forecast/351198?day=5
17:31 gtmanfred almost up to 80 here on tuesday
17:32 MajObviousman yeah, they poured some concrete on my alley way on Wednesday morning, right as the cold was coming in. And concrete doesn't really cure below freezing
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17:32 gtmanfred that is unfortunate
17:32 MajObviousman well, if it's wrapped it can. The curing process is exothermic. But these clowns didn't wrap it. So it's going to be closed and wet until probably Sunday or Monday, and it might even have to be redone due to freezing damage
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17:33 gtmanfred ugh, i need to find a blanket
17:33 iggy I moved to LA to get away from the schizo weather... and the last month has been just as bad as TX
17:33 MajObviousman the gas delivery company is staffed by morons so I've observed. No warning signs of any kind, and it's around a pretty sharp curve right near the end of the alley way. About as close to worst case as you can get in this situation
17:34 MajObviousman I'm not bitter or anything at all, ofc
17:34 gtmanfred at least we aren't expecting snow like Raleigh north carolina https://i.redd.it/58wm3kbw438y.jpg
17:34 * MajObviousman swallows the grousing and will medicate with drinkyhol later
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17:35 MajObviousman can't tell if that's today or a screencap from Robocop 2
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17:35 gtmanfred that was 3 years ago when they got 2.5 inches in Raleigh
17:35 gtmanfred they are expecting 4-6" tomorrow
17:36 gtmanfred It overheated and burst into flames because the driver couldn't get it up the hill. Just kept revving the engine until poof
17:36 MajObviousman sheesh
17:36 gtmanfred http://i.imgur.com/ciNtODd.jpg
17:36 MajObviousman does it not snow much there in Raleigh such that they'd get practice?
17:36 gtmanfred buncha goofballs
17:36 MajObviousman much improved!
17:37 gtmanfred it does not snow much there
17:37 gtmanfred much like atlanta
17:37 tobithiel gtmanfred: seems like 2016.11 from github works for me to access grains from a pillar. I'll follow up on github next week probably with more details. thanks for your help
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17:37 gtmanfred thanks!
17:37 gtmanfred The governer there has issued a state of emergency and is having them send people home
17:38 gtmanfred http://pix11.com/2014/01/29/atlanta-snowpocalypse-mocked-on-twitter-after-2-inches-of-snow-strands-thousands/
17:39 gtmanfred though, they usually get something ever 3 years or so...
17:39 gtmanfred i was still living there for snowpacalypse 2011
17:39 gtmanfred when the 4 salting trucks in the whole city were ready to go out and salt the roads, and two crashed into each other and totalled on the way out of the parking lot
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17:47 MajObviousman hell, Dallas has gotten a lot more snow than that in the past few years
17:47 MajObviousman surprisingly
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17:49 PatrolDoom dallas usually gets snow anyways
17:49 PatrolDoom or sleet
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19:11 MTecknology cd repos/salt-data; vim etc/logcheck/ignore.d.server/mtrules; git status; git commit -am 'Fixing something trivial'; git push  <-- and done. In <7 minutes, that change will be effected across my entire network.
19:12 MTecknology Yay!!
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19:15 Tanta nice
19:15 Tanta how's it work
19:17 MTecknology Tanta: git hook that runs a script that sends an event up to the master saying xyz should happen. The master sets a timer in sdb to 15 and decrements by one using the salt scheduler every minute. When the schedule runs and it hits 10, a global highstate orchestrator is kicked off which handles making sure pillar is refreshed before starting the highstate, makes sure files were pulled, etc.
19:18 Tanta that's pretty cool
19:18 MTecknology the master won't set the timer to 15 if it's not >10 or ==0
19:18 Tanta I have a similar setup with a masterless environment where a cron fires to check for git changes
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19:18 Tanta and then runs the update state
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19:52 djgerm Howdy Y'all. How everyone is doing well in the new year! I have a question about getting the external IP from EC2 instances spun up with salt-cloud. It seems it only presents it once, when the instantiation process is finished and salt-cloud returns. Is there a good and easy to grab that after the fact?
19:53 PatrolDoom do grains work w/ it?
19:54 djgerm doesnt seem to populate a grain with it
19:54 PatrolDoom oic
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19:56 cgregg I've been struggling with this. I can see it under public_ips in the output from launching the ec2 instance, but it's not in grains that I can see. Right now I just have a bash script grabbing it from the initial output and saving it to a config file. The docs for cloud.query seem to imply that it can be retrieved that way, but so far I haven't had any luck.
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20:04 gtmanfred djgerm: might be worth trying out this custom grain? https://github.com/saltstack/salt-contrib/blob/master/grains/ec2_info.py
20:05 gtmanfred otherwise, if you know if it is on the 169.254.169.254 metadata server, you could try this new grain i made for develop
20:05 gtmanfred https://github.com/saltstack/salt/blob/develop/salt/grains/metadata.py
20:06 gtmanfred otherwise, something with cloud.query would need to be used to look it up
20:06 djgerm which cgregg seems to have the same results as me: cloud query doesn't seem to be working… oh yeah…. metadata server.
20:07 gtmanfred the metadata grain will be in the Nitrogen release
20:07 djgerm i forgot about this little gem from AWS too https://aws.amazon.com/code/1825
20:09 cgregg excellent, thanks folks!
20:10 Flying_Panda question if a highstate times out on the master does it continue running till completion on the minion
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20:12 gtmanfred yes
20:12 gtmanfred eventually you should see the output in the job cache when/if the minion eventually returns it
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20:22 Flying_Panda thank god for that windows update highstates take forever :D
20:23 Flying_Panda ls
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20:25 llua . .. .p0rn
20:26 gtmanfred . .. .pandaporn
20:27 Flying_Panda side note gt does salt sell any hoodies yet @D
20:28 gtmanfred i do not believe so
20:28 Flying_Panda :( need some to keep my software stack wardrobe up to date :D
20:28 beardedeagle gotta get that swag
20:29 Flying_Panda exactly a opensuse hoodie only goes so far :D
20:31 beardedeagle So, @gtmanfred, blindly allowing all python objects to be marked as safe for safe_load is probably a terrible idea. However, I could see a case for marking salt objects safe.
20:31 gtmanfred we have so much other stuff to do before the next release that we def arent going to be doing that
20:31 gtmanfred but if you wanna take a shot
20:32 Flying_Panda anything exciting in next release gt ?
20:33 gtmanfred python3 support
20:33 Flying_Panda 0.0
20:33 Flying_Panda thank god as i never bothered learning python 2 :D
20:33 gtmanfred we will be supporting 3.4 and above
20:35 beardedeagle Other than it needs to be done, what benefits does that bring? As in will saltstack be taking advantage of anything specific to the python3 codebase?
20:36 gtmanfred no, because we will still support python2.7 for a bit longer
20:36 gtmanfred there are a few other things, but that is the big major one
20:36 beardedeagle werd.
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20:55 MajObviousman MTecknology: pretty snazzy
21:00 MajObviousman it's been snowing for a few hours now in Dallas, and thankfully it's not sticking much
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22:42 Kelsar can i get all minon names for a jinja template inside my pillar?
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23:19 hemebond Kelsar: You can use Salt Mine to get a list of all minions.
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23:21 Kelsar hemebond: i figured that in the meantime, but i don't get who...
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23:22 hemebond Do you mean "how"?
23:25 Kelsar yes
23:25 hemebond I'll paste an example from my config.
23:28 hemebond Kelsar: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/2500f196/
23:28 hemebond The first part goes to all minions.
23:28 hemebond The second part is used for the minion that needs the minion ID list.
23:28 Kelsar hemebond: ty, but that is the same as in the documentation. who do i know what is allowed for mine_functions?
23:29 hemebond mine_functions is basically just execution modules.
23:29 Kelsar ah id is just a sideproduct in your config
23:29 hemebond e.g., http://paste.debian.net/hidden/68a867bb/
23:30 hemebond When the data is returned from Salt Mine, it's a dict with the minion ID's as the top-level keys.
23:30 hemebond e.g., {'min1': ['127.0.0.1', '192.168.0.1'], 'min2', [...
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23:35 Kelsar hemebond: i get werid stuff instead...
23:35 Kelsar weird
23:35 hemebond oh?
23:36 Kelsar like fun_args, fun, users_return
23:36 Kelsar can't i somehow test to what it will lead?
23:37 hemebond salt-run mine.get '*' network.ip_addrs
23:37 hemebond Sounds like maybe your mine_functions isn't correct.
23:37 hemebond Are you just using what I pasted?
23:37 Kelsar that does nothing
23:37 Kelsar yes
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23:38 hemebond Have you pushed the updated pillar out to your minions?
23:38 hemebond You also need to wait for the minions to send their data back.
23:38 hemebond Usually a saltutil.refresh_pillar and saltutil.sync_all can force it.
23:38 Kelsar atleast the changes on my current pillar are there
23:39 Kelsar that did not help
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23:40 hemebond Do you just get back a list of minion IDs?
23:40 Kelsar if do salt-run mine.get... i get nothing
23:40 hemebond That seems odd.
23:40 hemebond On your master?
23:41 Kelsar yes
23:41 hemebond I think it's just because the data hasn't been sent back yet.
23:41 Kelsar did the commands, did mine.update, is there more?
23:42 hemebond Hmm. That should be all that's required. I have a feeling it still takes a little time though.
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23:43 hemebond But shouldn't take long.
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23:53 Kelsar hemebond: defined another mine function, that works
23:53 Kelsar well, it gets data, if i use it with the salt command, my state still ha weird data ^^
23:54 hemebond Can you paste the relevant pillar data and state?
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23:59 Kelsar hemebond: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/VRbl8UlIUffyvDKWSrRP/
23:59 Kelsar https://paste.pound-python.org/show/eKyolWDiuwwSMv8D37cM/

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