Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #salt, 2017-04-29

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01:49 Topic for #salt is now Welcome to #salt! <+> Latest Versions: 2016.3.6, 2016.11.4 <+> Support: https://www.saltstack.com/support/ <+> SaltStack Webinar on Carbon, Nitrogen, and Enterprise 5.1 on May 18, 2017 https://goo.gl/PvsOvQ <+> Logs: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/salt/ <+> Paste: https://gist.github.com/ <+> See also: #salt-devel, #salt-offtopic <+> We are volunteers and may not have immediate answers
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09:34 squig Hi, so im going around in a circle here
09:34 squig I am using pip to install python modules but !
09:34 squig some one was smart enough to create python package that starts with a -libipasomething
09:35 squig the package of pip that comes with centos doesnt like it
09:35 squig If I upgrade to a newerversion it fixes it
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09:35 squig but then its not really sane because pip comes from a system package
09:36 squig how to i install a system package and then update it with pip?
09:36 squig I need to install the system package of pip and then update pip with pip
09:41 whytewolf why install the system package of pip at all?
09:42 whytewolf https://pip.pypa.io/en/stable/installing/
09:42 whytewolf personally i never use the package version of python libs or scripts if i can avoid it.
09:43 whytewolf the other way around this. create system packages for the python modules you want. and don't use pip at all
10:09 squig well, I have 200 machines in a strange state now I am trying to fix.
10:09 squig with a broken pip
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11:38 tellendil Hey, I've got problems with firewalld states. I have the following state : https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/mpV5Dxb9545hJtgv4El-zF5M1UNdIGYhyRLivL9gydE= and everytime I run it, it changes the zone, shouldn't it apply it once and then not change anything  or am I missing something ?
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15:29 afics can I have onchange and require in the same state?
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