Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

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20:23 absolutejam Evening guys
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21:01 absolutejam Is there a good way to run a multiline cmd.run across a load of minions and get the return?
21:02 absolutejam I've got it in a .sls file at the minute, but I just want to see the output across a load of hosts
21:02 absolutejam I realise that's not very 'stateful'
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21:07 coredumb Good evening
21:08 coredumb In the event where you have the same data declared in both pillar and grain - like a role type or something - what advantage would there be to match it from grains instead of pillars? If there is :)
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21:26 absolutejam I'd guess it depends where you want the data from coredumb
21:26 absolutejam Grains implies data from the minion
21:26 absolutejam Pillars is from master
21:27 absolutejam Are you declaring the data onto the minion or taking the data from the minion?
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21:44 coredumb absolutejam: Indeed in my case I try to not put anything on the minion :)
21:45 coredumb I was wondering actually if there was some kind of performance impact or anything that wouldn't make more sense one way or the other
21:46 absolutejam Well, some data makes sense to be on the minion, like if you had a grain that gets git version for a directory, or simply the osversion
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21:47 absolutejam that obviously would't work as a pillar, unless you declare the _desired_ git version in the pillar
21:48 absolutejam and compared
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21:51 coredumb absolutejam: indeed
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22:14 absolutejam eh, in regards to my earlier question
22:14 absolutejam I'm using cmd.script and just --output json then parsing the json
22:14 absolutejam Need a hubblestack module for win_command I think
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22:18 MTecknology coredumb: I prefer avoiding the concept of roles
22:22 MTecknology It usually seems to lead to logic along the lines of using roles and hostnames to matche in top.sls and then {% if grains['os_family'] == 'Ubuntu' %} {% if 'ntp-client' in roles and not 'ntp-server' in roles %} ... {% elif {% 'ntp-server' in roles %} ...
22:25 absolutejam anyone know how I can output a json list with --out json
22:25 absolutejam instead of a load of objects
22:25 absolutejam I want to --out json > results.json then cat results.json | jq
22:26 absolutejam maybe I just need to learn how to jq better
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22:32 absolutejam ah, jq -s
22:52 onlyanegg I'm considering writing a state for datadog dashboards. Is that something that is in scope of the goals of SaltStack? Most states configure software on the server where there agent is installed, but there are some exceptions including AWS.
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23:19 onlyanegg Hmmm, seems like since salt doesn't maintain state there's no way to handle modifications.
23:19 hemebond ?
23:19 hemebond The state is the thing being managed.
23:21 onlyanegg Well, consider trying to modify an existing dashboard. How will salt no whether to modify a dashboard (and which one to modify) or create a new one?
23:21 hemebond Query the dashboard and check its configuration against what you want.
23:25 onlyanegg hmm, yeah I guess if you manage all the dashboards through salt then it doesn't matter.
23:28 onlyanegg I still don't see a way to manage a subset of dashboards though since there's no way to map a dashboard to the state that created it.
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