Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #salt, 2017-11-26

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01:12 XenophonF zer0def: I render XML templates using Jinja just like I would HTML.
01:12 XenophonF Several examples at https://github.com/irtnog/shibboleth-formula
01:13 XenophonF at one point the SaltStack docs referenced XML Badgerfish in the context of file.serialize
01:13 XenophonF but that never made it to actual code, and the doc ref got removed a while back
01:14 XenophonF the options kind of suck
01:14 XenophonF e.g., how would one represent XML comments in a YAML-serialized data structure?
01:20 XenophonF I was templating XML config files, so I came up with my own data structure.
01:20 XenophonF I'm not sure this was the right choice.
01:21 XenophonF They're config files expressed in XML.
01:21 XenophonF In retrospect maybe I should have just stored those in Pillar verbatim.
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14:18 msid Is there any way (wildcard comes into mind) to define a global file_roots for X enviroments?
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14:38 shiranaihito hi :)  --how much do the Saltfile and the config directory "overlap" in their settings?
14:40 shiranaihito or.. perhaps some other question that might make more sense that i don't know to ask yet :)
14:45 nkuttler what do you mean?
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15:12 shiranaihito nkuttler well, i'm just trying to get started with Salt, so i'm not sure
15:12 shiranaihito but for example, which one (of Saltfile or the config dir) would/should be "the starting point" for Salt's configuration
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15:15 nkuttler shiranaihito: do you man this https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/topics/ssh/#define-cli-options-with-saltfile
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15:16 shiranaihito yeah
15:16 shiranaihito or does the Saltfile only apply when using salt-ssh?
15:17 nkuttler sounds like it to me, i've never used it
15:17 shiranaihito ok
15:18 nkuttler your config dir contains all your states, that's what i'd call salt config
15:18 nkuttler the other file is more of a client config or something
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15:35 shiranaihito nkuttler alrighty, thanks
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16:02 linovia Is there a good resource (book most likely) about complex use case with salt ?
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16:36 XenophonF linovia: dunno if this counts but I've posted my work prototypes at https://github.com/irtnog/salt-states and https://github.com/irtnog/salt-pillar-example
16:37 XenophonF other people have done the same, like whytewolf, but you might want to ask again tomorrow in the middle of both the European and American business day
16:37 XenophonF or check the IRC logs
16:39 XenophonF other people have posted stuff publicly about Salt Mine, Reactors, Returners, and Orchestration
16:43 linovia XenophonF: thanks for the pointers. Going to read them :)
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16:57 whytewolf If I wasn't about to leave for the airport I would post some of the links to my past stuff.
16:58 whytewolf bust of you find the gists i have posted over the years here they are mostly still valid
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17:03 linovia well, what I'm specifically looking for is how to deal with pillar for fallback configuration like use specific configuration or use default for the role or use default for all servers. I's really like to get rid of complex syntax in the state files
17:04 linovia currently, I'm only able to fallback on one default and it's not really readable: {{ salt['pillar.get']('website:root_path', pillar['bundle_path'] + pillar['website']['name']) }}
17:07 XenophonF linovia: I have a defaults Pillar that does some of that stuff.
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17:07 XenophonF I also make use of Pillars for templated configs.  (I try to use formulas almost exclusively.)
17:09 linovia XenophonF: I'm looking at your salt-pillar-example
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19:39 saltslackbridge <whytewolf> Linovia. The more complex you get in that direction. The more you will want to check out map.jinja.
19:40 saltslackbridge <whytewolf> Also. This morning has not been good.
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20:10 linovia whytewolf: thanks, will also look at it
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22:35 viq linovia: there are also Mastering Salt and Extending Salt books
22:42 linovia viq: thanks, I think I've already bough Mastering Salt. Will see for the other, thank you !
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