Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #salt, 2017-11-30

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00:01 lru is it possible to stop a minion from automatically running highstate when it gets restarted?
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00:10 dlloyd i didnt think they normally hihgstate when they start?
00:11 lru seems to for me
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00:12 saltslackbridge <john.zaitz> if you’ve got the “startup_states: highstate”  set in your minion config they do, otherwise no.
00:12 dlloyd ah, makes sense
00:13 lru aha!  there was a stray file under minion.d that turned it on... thanks :-)
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02:59 Topic for #salt is now Welcome to #salt! <+> Latest Versions: 2016.11.8, 2017.7.2 <+> Support: https://www.saltstack.com/support/ <+> Logs: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/salt/ <+> Paste: https://gist.github.com/ <+> See also: #salt-devel, #salt-offtopic, and https://saltstackcommunity.herokuapp.com (for slack) <+> We are volunteers and may not have immediate answers
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03:52 MTecknology What's the easiest way to get the last octet of the primary interface v4 address?
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03:59 MTecknology Found it!  {{grains['fqdn_ip4'][0].split('.')[3]}}
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04:36 MTecknology Is there a prereq-type option for if you want a state to only be evaluated if a different state changes?   Something along the lines of listen_in but with the state not even being checked on it's own without that other state changing.
04:37 MTecknology I don't want to deal with an init script, but but it doesn't support status
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04:51 MTecknology I guess I can just wrap the state in {% if cmd.shell(...) ...
04:51 mechleg MTecknology: have you looked at the onchanges requisite?  https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/ref/states/requisites.html#onchanges
04:52 MTecknology I bet that's the one :)
04:52 mechleg or prereq if you need it beforehand:  https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/ref/states/requisites.html#prereq
04:53 mechleg prereq does a test run of the defined state and if it detects possible changes, apply the state you want
04:54 MTecknology Yup! That does the trick! :D
04:54 * MTecknology hugs mechleg
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04:58 MTecknology Now I'm ready to turn almost everything I run into a redundant service, sitting behind salt-managed load balancer, with dns and lb already redundant and driven by salt with pillar coming from netbox.
04:59 MTecknology everything running in a stateless pair split between two vm hosts :)
04:59 MTecknology I'm glad that this isn't overkill for a home setup.
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05:09 mechleg sounds like better infrastructure then some companies i've worked at
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08:41 akrus hi everyone~
08:42 akrus I need some help with beacons. currently using them from /etc/salt/minion.d/beacons.conf, but doc says 'can also be configured via the minion pillar, grains, or local config file'
08:42 akrus does anyone have an example config with a pillar? I need a nodegroup matching and feel a bit confused about the way I should proceed
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11:47 dagb I assume https://github.com/saltstack/salt/pull/43603 is not in any salt release yet. Is this correct?
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13:13 saltslackbridge <chris.ruscio> @dagb, yeah, looks like that's correct
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14:11 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> dagb copy the beacons dictionary into a pillar file and assign it to a minion in the pillar top file.
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14:50 zertyuio hi there
14:51 zertyuio anyone know foreman here ?
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15:27 syd_salt Does anyone know if you're able to mark minions in a maintenance mode or similar beyond setting a pillar or grain and targeting to avoid them?
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16:20 winsalt Does anyone know how to import a class from a _utils module into a _runners module?
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16:23 saltslackbridge <whytewolf> winsalt. you don’t. you just access with __utils__ like you would a module with __salt__
16:23 saltslackbridge <whytewolf> winsalt see https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/topics/utils/index.html
16:25 lordcirth_work syd_salt, I'm not aware of a specific feature for that
16:25 winsalt __utils__ is not defined when i tried doing that. I was going off that documentation and it says to import and use the class like normal, but the module cant be found
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16:27 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> which version of salt are you running?
16:28 winsalt 2016.11.7
16:28 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> yeah it isn’t in there in 2016.11
16:28 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> I added it in 2017.7
16:28 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> https://github.com/saltstack/salt/blob/2017.7/salt/loader.py#L834
16:29 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> or terminalmage did
16:29 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> I must have added __utils__ to cloud drivers
16:29 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> hrm, no that should also be in 2016.11
16:29 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> https://github.com/saltstack/salt/commit/eb1ed51235645fe7e5943fdf8d013a92a97ddc5e
16:29 winsalt would I be able to use salt.loader in a runner?
16:29 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> the salt loaded loads all the runners
16:29 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> and packs __utils__ into the runner modules when you call them
16:29 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> so it should work for you.
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16:30 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> the loader is how everything in salt is loaded, so that we can pack dunder variables in them
16:31 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/ref/clients/#salt-s-loader-interface
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16:44 winsalt fg
16:44 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> bg
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16:47 winsalt haha oops.  anyway I loaded __utils__ like the example in the loader interface page, and printed out the __dict__.   I can see the module got loaded from /var/cache/salt/minion/extmods/utils/, but im still seeing a keyerror on the class
16:50 winsalt actually that might be a default module with the same name
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16:58 fullstop is there a way to set a profile such that I can choose different paths and share a state?
16:58 fullstop that is, different paths for a production vs beta environment?
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17:16 tom[] in an orchestration sls can i use tgt: {{ pillar.get() }} ? or, because it runs in the master context, there is no pillar?
17:18 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> second one
17:19 winsalt you can pass pillar data to an orchestration though
17:19 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> sure, you can do salt-run state.orch pillar=whatever
17:21 tom[] i am confused because my sls did work in the past. i tested it several times. and it uses - tgt: {{ pillar.backup.id }}. now i can't imagine how it worked
17:22 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> so
17:22 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> in the past it may have been the minion on the master’s pillar data that was in there
17:22 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> now the minion that is loaded inside the master is called `master_minion` iirc, so it won’t match pillars in the same way
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17:23 tom[] you helped me with wait_for_event which worked like this https://gist.github.com/tom--/78a81bbba0464d0c50fb8cee36ae245d
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17:23 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> that only seems like it would work if you are running
17:24 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> salt-run state.orch whatever pillar=‘{“backup”: {“id”: “backupid”}}’
17:25 tom[] yeah. i don't get it at all. i'll look through the git log
17:25 saltslackbridge <stephen.onnen> Anyone have experience with setting up rproxmox? I'm having issues with deploying LXC containers.
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17:39 tom[] gtmanfred: i didn't understand what you said: "in the past it may have been the minion on the master’s pillar data that was in there. now the minion that is loaded inside the master is called `master_minion` iirc, so it won’t match pillars in the same way"
17:39 tom[] what is "the master’s pillar data"?
17:39 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> the minion that lives on the master server
17:43 tom[] could be that this sls worked when salt-run was on version 2016.11.2. after i upgraded to 2017.7.2 it doesn't?
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17:44 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> hrm, yeah it wouldn’t have been changed that recently
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18:38 promorphus hey, has anyone had issues with schedule.purge on a minion only purging one job as opposed to all of them?
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19:04 winsalt gtmanfred on the issue about importing a util module into a runner, if I have "import mymodule" after salt.client.Caller(), it can find it.  looking at the sys.path, '/var/cache/salt/minion/extmods/utils' gets added after I make a Caller().  Does that make sense?
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21:32 ecdhe I'm working on CentOS6,  with Nitrogen and I'm having trouble with pip.installed.  I get the message that "An importable Python 2 pip module is required..."
21:33 ecdhe However, `pip` works from the shell.  And 'import pip' works within python2.
21:34 ecdhe I have installed python-pip from the repos, as well as `easy_install pip'
21:35 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> ecdhe https://docs.saltstack.com/en/develop/topics/releases/2017.7.0.html#python-2-6-deprecation
21:35 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> install python27-pip
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21:36 carlwgeorge gtmanfred: how's py3 support coming along
21:37 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> it is supported in 2017.7
21:37 carlwgeorge sweet
21:37 ecdhe thanks gtmanfred!
21:37 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> >=py3.4
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21:39 carlwgeorge yall should  update the fedora packages to use py3 so i don't need py2 installed at all
21:40 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> dmurphy is working on automating the whole thing for building nightly ones, once that is released, he is going to start working on py3
21:40 saltslackbridge <gtmanfred> (also allowing people to build their own packages)
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