Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #salt, 2018-03-02

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09:27 nomad_fr Hi, is there a way to do nodegroups based on other nodegroups ?
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13:34 Nahual Not sure if a bug or a feature but it seems that if aggregation is enabled estate wide via the minion configuration for pkg, aggregate: False within individual SLS files doesn't do anything which leads me to believe the only granular way of managing pkg aggregation is to do it on a per SLS basis, which seems counter intuitive.
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15:23 smead Is there any documentation on using salt-cloud --select-query?  I can't find any actual queries or examples
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15:27 smead I'm just getting 'absent' no matter what I send.  for example salt-cloud -m my.map -S id
15:27 smead I get all 40 nodes back, but, I'm only seeing 'Absent'
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18:16 MTecknology smead: unfortunately, the best way I've found to debug salt-cloud, is with pudb.
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19:59 lordcirth_work In modules/file.py:check_perms(), what does attrs='ai' do?
20:01 smead MTecknology: Thanks.  I've given up and moved on to just using boto3 directly.  Salt-cloud always kind feels square-peg-round-hole-ish
20:02 Edgan smead: They are working on a rewrite of salt-cloud, but I agree with you
20:05 Eugene I've been using Terraform for my provisionng. YMMV.
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20:12 MTecknology salt-cloud has seen lots of love and massive improvements over the last ~1 year, but ya.. still has a ways to go.
20:12 MTecknology I actually need to write a patch to improvify error reporting of proxmox authentication.
20:13 MTecknology I suspect the entire patch to be ~2 lines, though.
20:19 smead Eugene: a few friends of mine love Terraform
20:19 smead I'll have to give it a shot
20:19 lordcirth_work apparently it's the same as chattr +a +i : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/File_permissions_and_attributes#File_attributes
20:23 lordcirth_work If I add an argument that is not required, should I add it to the command line example or not?
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20:30 MTecknology I've heard good things of terraform, but I'm stuck on making salt-cloud behave.
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21:35 lungaro what is a good strategy for "versioning" states of a box?
21:35 ecdhe lungaro: are your states in git?
21:36 lungaro Yep
21:36 lungaro theoretically I want a version tied to a given node, and then switch that nodes version
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21:41 lungaro looks like I can have a git branch for each environment
21:41 lungaro but that becomes complicated as its not alway the same box. Can I override the environment on the box itself?
21:42 lungaro oh interesting, branches/tags/etc (refspecs) automatically become valid environments?
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21:53 MTecknology lungaro: that's more of a chef kinda thing
21:54 MTecknology and I have no idea why you would want it... it makes things messy and confusing and dang near impossible to promote things sanely.
21:59 lungaro which part?
22:00 MTecknology the versioned states thing
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23:53 hohum if I lost my connection in the middle of a state.apply is there a way to check the status of the node I was targeting?

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