Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #salt, 2018-04-21

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01:55 Topic for #salt is now Welcome to #salt! <+> Latest Versions: 2017.7.5, 2018.3.0 <+> Support: https://www.saltstack.com/support/ <+> Logs: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/salt/ <+> Paste: https://gist.github.com/ <+> See also: #salt-devel, #salt-offtopic, and https://saltstackcommunity.herokuapp.com (for slack) <+> We are volunteers and may not have immediate answers
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03:24 pcn Yes it works, just after a certain point, not so well.
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06:47 MTecknology pcn: I'd start by watching resource utilization, and then check out how long each state took to run, and if none have a noticeably high time, I'm out of ideas
06:54 onslack <alex> I keep getting 'Minion did not return. [Not connected]' when running state.apply, and if I try again the return shows no changed needed as if the state was already applied
06:54 MTecknology timeout
06:54 onslack <alex> master config?
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06:58 MTecknology -t
06:59 babilen onslack: Does the same happen if you ping the minion beforehand?
06:59 babilen If so, might be worth setting "ping_on_rotate: True"
07:01 onslack <alex> I'll try with 30 sec timeout
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07:03 babilen Also: Does this happen every time whenever your highstate has changes, even if you pinged the minion or applied a state shortly beforehand (e.g. 2 minutes) ? Does it happen only to minions that have not been targeted in a while? How reproducible is it on single minions or is it randomly across your fleet?
07:03 babilen ...
07:07 onslack <alex> I think it's because I used a t1.micro instance, so the timeout did help
07:08 onslack <alex> This didn't happen on bigger instances
07:09 MTecknology He said future runs are fine so my assumption is the first time through is running some long-running states that, on aws crap, prevents responding to pings.
07:10 babilen Sure, the question is if it helps to "wake" the minion first or if this is simply an issue with the interactive timeout
07:12 babilen Just hunting the invariants
07:12 babilen Sounds as if that is the instance type
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07:17 onslack <alex> yeah I think it's just slow to respond, using a bigger instance with default timeout works fine
07:18 onslack <alex> tnx for the hint
07:21 babilen So pinging it beforehand does not help?
07:22 babilen (and running the state once you get an answer)
07:27 MTecknology aws... 1 kilobit performance at 1 terabit cost
07:29 babilen That's what you pay for superior vendor lock-in!
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07:31 babilen I was still curious if pinging it helps, but I guess I'll have to reproduce it myself :)
07:32 zer0def AWS… how to disrupt services every quarter and get away with not acknowledging it
07:34 babilen Well, I'm looking forward to KubeCon in two weeks
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16:43 onslack <alex> is it possible to get register data using jinja in Thorium states?
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