Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #sdl, 2013-08-05

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15:01 kthakore mtj: thanks
15:01 kthakore FROGGS: around?
15:01 FROGGS kthakore: I am
15:01 kthakore Huuulllloooooo!
15:01 kthakore -ooo
15:01 kthakore -ooo
15:01 kthakore -ooo
15:01 kthakore :p
15:02 kthakore FROGGS: so how good is nativecall with Perl6/JVM ?
15:02 kthakore Can I use latest OpenGL ? (4.0)
15:02 FROGGS kthakore: it is in development
15:02 kthakore ah ok
15:02 FROGGS no, dont think so
15:02 kthakore so just read that Parrot is dying too
15:03 FROGGS well, there are no active devs
15:03 kthakore what's going to happen with Rakudo?
15:03 kthakore yeah I noticed your msg on #parrot don't get response
15:03 FROGGS rakudo has parrot, jvm and the upcoming moarvm as a backend, so there is no problem
15:03 kthakore whats moarvm?
15:03 kthakore which has better nativecall dev?
15:03 FROGGS https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/
15:04 FROGGS read this: http://news.perlfoundation.org/2013/07/hague-grant-application.html
15:04 FROGGS and this: http://www.josetteorama.com/all-about-perl-6-interview-of-jonathan-worthington-part-1-of-3/ (and the followups) :o)
15:05 kthakore can't believe parrot is dead
15:05 kthakore :(
15:06 FROGGS SDL was dead too, (and is it again fwiw), but there always be peeps who step forward
15:06 kthakore fwif?
15:06 kthakore fwiw?
15:06 FROGGS for what it's worth
15:07 kthakore I have to finish my master's thesis (fucking soooo much re-re-re-re-re-writing)
15:07 kthakore I am going to be done in a few months
15:07 FROGGS cool!
15:07 FROGGS I have to call you 'Sir' afterwards?
15:07 kthakore then I am going to dedicate some time making playspine work and make a full featured book/game
15:07 FROGGS awesome
15:07 kthakore FROGGS: nah. I have a feeling I might fail my defense :(
15:07 FROGGS O.o
15:07 kthakore I messed up something in my research
15:07 kthakore have a meeting soon to find out
15:08 FROGGS I wish you all the best! (much luck in this case)
15:08 kthakore That is why I didn't start playspine and book/game
15:08 kthakore I needed my tuits
15:08 FROGGS yeah
15:09 kthakore anyway yeah hoping I can make the 1.0 and book/game to go along with it by next summer
15:09 kthakore I want to use JOGL so was wondering where perl6/JVM is
15:09 kthakore I want to make playspine like a game framework ( a la mojolicioius, dancer ... etc)
15:09 FROGGS you should ask arnsholt about that then
15:10 kthakore where I find him?
15:10 FROGGS #perl6
15:10 FROGGS at freenode
15:10 FROGGS or ask me and I tell you again :o)
15:10 kthakore if not I will do perl5 but make a slimmed down crossplatform builder like strawberry
15:10 kthakore I will
15:13 daxim what's your master, mister?
15:13 kthakore daxim: WEB-BASED SIMULATION AND TRAINING ENVIRONMENT FOR LAPAROSCOPIC CAMERA CALIBRATION
15:14 daxim what are you, some kind of surgeon?
15:14 kthakore Biomedical Engineering
15:14 daxim THAT'S EVEN WORSE
15:14 kthakore it is
15:14 kthakore very much so
15:14 daxim I hope they pay you well in social healthcare canuckistan
15:15 kthakore I am working for myself, and I like to punish myself soooo no I don't get paid well hahah
15:16 FROGGS hehe
15:16 kthakore FROGGS: what do you think is better for playspine backend? SDL 2.0/Perl5 or Perl6/JVM/JOGL ?
15:17 kthakore oh also can I perl6 as a jar ?
15:17 kthakore I want crossplatform-ity
15:18 FROGGS I think you can make a jar, but I'm not entirely sure
15:18 kthakore maybe we jar up a playspine ?
15:18 FROGGS I'd prefer SDL2/Perl5 if SDL2 is coming along nicely
15:18 FROGGS wut?
15:18 kthakore hmm it is actually
15:19 kthakore playspine would be more likely to crossplatform on playspine
15:20 kthakore maybe JVM/Perl6 is too new ... and ... slow jeez might wait for MoarVM
15:20 kthakore ok SDL2/Perl5 it is gonna be
15:20 kthakore I just need to know how we are going to do publishing?
15:20 FROGGS the JVM needs a few seconds to boot, that is the problem
15:20 kthakore ooooh
15:21 FROGGS but I expect great things from MoarVM, yes
15:21 kthakore will have to wait to see
15:30 kthakore so how will MoarVM deploy?
15:30 kthakore FROGGS: is it going to be easy to crossplatform (aka JVM-ness)
15:32 FROGGS well, if MoarVM is installed on a platform, an perl6 problem will run on it
15:32 FROGGS the bytecode is cross plattform
15:33 kthakore right but can I package it all up in one zip file and distribute?
15:33 FROGGS including the VM?
15:34 FROGGS for windows maybe, but that wont work for unixes
15:34 kthakore yeah
15:34 kthakore so what is a good packaging method?
15:35 FROGGS did you tried to bundle your jars including the JVM?
15:35 FROGGS that would be a HUGE bundle
15:35 kthakore true
15:35 FROGGS an installer
15:35 FROGGS I guess
15:35 kthakore so we will need a bootstraper for LInuxes
15:35 kthakore and zipper for windows/mac
15:35 kthakore le sigh
15:37 FROGGS bbiab
15:38 kthakore kk
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16:38 kthakore hi FROGGS from home
16:56 FROGGS hi kthakore
17:10 kthakore so whatchu think of packaging?
17:12 FROGGS no idea atm
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17:13 FROGGS staticperl was awesome, but this would be a lot of work for perl6 to do
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18:10 kthakore FROGGS: kk
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