Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #shibboleth, 2014-04-02

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12:40 pdurbin "Setting up Shibboleth has been one of my worst experiences in recent memory" -- http://www.jeesty.com/shibboleth :(
12:42 pdurbin bah. MacPorts: https://wiki.shibboleth.net/confluence/display/SHIB2/NativeSPMacInstall
12:42 pdurbin no homebrew?
14:45 balo i don't understand who want to natively install shib sp on osx
14:45 balo or why really
18:56 pdurbin balo: does this help explain? NativeSPMacInstall, homebrew - http://shibboleth.net/pipermail/users/2014-April/014907.html
19:50 balo pdurbin: i have osx a only few weeks now but it drives me crazy. i'm using a headless ubuntu server vm in virtualbox for all the dev stuff. i mean apache, databases, etc
19:50 balo i'm of course developing in native apps but deploy on the vm
19:51 balo osx is suck for development :D now i can say it based on my experiences
19:51 balo okay, not entirely true, because i have some development environments (ruby, jruby, c)
19:51 balo pdurbin: ^^
20:25 pdurbin balo: well, I'm using an IDE (Netbeans) for Java
20:31 balo yeah, that can work. I plan to use Netbeans as well. but for java you don't really need native dependencies. for apache / shibboleth / etc you will need libraries and possibly updates and brew doesn't really an alternative to the apt repo
20:31 balo i'm using brew always very carefully because it can mess the libraries
20:33 balo brew can't handle lib dependencies and versions vrey well
20:41 pdurbin I've been much happier with homebrew than with macports or fink
20:42 pdurbin balo: so you're saying the virtual box idea can't work? I'm confused.
20:44 balo sorry for my english :D basically i'm using virtualbox for the server and database stuffs
20:45 balo i'm using java, netbeans, sublime, ruby, c compiler natively on osx
20:46 balo so i develop on osx now but "deploy/run app" on my vm.
20:50 pdurbin balo: what container is running in your VM? tomcat? glassfish? jboss?
20:52 balo tomcat and jboss
20:52 balo but they can work on osx because they have only java as a dependency
20:52 pdurbin balo: you're using vagrant to manage virtualbox?
20:52 balo maybe i will move them to native
20:54 balo nope. i was too lazy for write a vagrant for this task :D best case i have to do this once
20:55 pdurbin balo: ok. well, if you come across a vagrant dev environment with a focus on java on github or wherever, please send me a link
20:55 balo i will keep in mind
20:55 pdurbin java web, that is, deploying to jboss or what have you
20:56 pdurbin balo: thanks
20:56 pdurbin if our whole dev team is going to do this it has to be automated
20:56 balo yes that makes sense
21:02 pdurbin good :)

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