Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-04-11

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00:11 mikemol joined #thegeekgroup
00:19 wannabe1987 hi mikemol
00:19 mikemol hey
00:19 * mikemol doesn't know why his irc client dropped off.
00:19 wannabe1987 hhows life?
00:19 mikemol Might be a weird server issue he's seen before.
00:20 mikemol Pretty good.
00:20 mikemol Going to reboot my server in a few minutes.
00:20 wannabe1987 fun
00:20 mikemol Easy enough.
00:21 mikemol Is kinda freaky that I haven't rebooted it in 175 days. I'm sure there's been a kernel package update since then.
00:21 wannabe1987 lol
00:21 mikemol First, a quick manual backup...
00:24 Seroster There we go... Removed all the lytic popcorn, and this nice lil circuit board is going into the oven tomorrow
00:27 Seroster 6040 solder melts at 180c, so if i turn the oven to 250 and grill the heat will melt the solder and the parts fall out neatly.
00:27 cctoide Now you're cooking with... computers
00:27 Seroster The lytic caps boil at 100c... =P
00:28 Seroster Sure do
00:28 Seroster Resistors aint that heat sensitive
00:28 mikemol Whee.
00:29 mikemol Transfer from VPS in CA to VPS in GA is running at 9.75 Mb/s. :)
00:29 Seroster Whatever it means, grats!
00:29 mikemol Backing up my server virtual machine in California to my other server virtual machine in Georgia.
00:30 mikemol Data is being pushed across at, currently, 9.89 megabits/second.
00:30 Seroster Right...
00:30 Seroster And the purpose of the data transfer is? =P
00:30 mikemol Backup. :)
00:30 cctoide How's the planning coming along on the blackout demo?
00:31 mikemol I'm about to reboot my primary server node for the first time in over six months. :)
00:31 Seroster 250gigs 5 hours or so
00:31 mikemol Latest is what's on the forum thread.
00:31 mikemol Seroster: I'm only transferring database, configuration files, logs and some other bits. 1.2GB.
00:32 Seroster So... 100 seconds
00:32 Seroster Well, 120.
00:32 mikemol Looks like it just finished.
00:32 mikemol k.
00:32 mikemol Time to reboot my server.
00:32 Seroster cross yer fingers
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00:33 Seroster Thou that would be stupid, I think you'll need your fingers for �berleethaxxor.
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00:36 cctoide I think if there was ever a track the Amen break improved, it was this one
00:38 mikemol cctoide: ?
00:38 cctoide http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cq_QO_4Cx4
00:39 cctoide or if the question is what the amen break is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac
00:39 cctoide hm, maybe I should check out DnB
00:39 mikemol I was missing both the antecedent and the definition. :)
00:40 cctoide that video is fairly interesting if you have 20 minutes, even if you're not that into music history (I'm not)
00:40 cctoide if you don't, it's basically this drum loop, which shows up everywhere: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwQLk7NcpO4
00:41 Seroster Btw, Captain__, when you get a new gerber, will it be another MP 600 pro needlenose but in jet black?
00:51 Seroster Well, I'm off to hit the hay, cya later.
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01:05 tesla4d Mmmm, chicken nooble soup
01:13 Hackbat I can use flux with out getting it in my arm hair @_@
01:17 exor674 mrrrr, damnit, I think I just bricked my access point
01:17 exor674 thankfully I have wired network everywhere I use my laptop mostly
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01:22 * wannabe1987 is now watching happy feet. love penguins!
01:24 Hackbat why do people keep saying netbooks are dead?
01:24 Hackbat I loved my netbook
01:25 Hackbat they're good machines
01:25 tesla4d I still love my netbook.
01:25 Hackbat mine died due to a design flaw
01:25 masterofmonks Because tablets are like netbooks, but more convenient.
01:25 tesla4d People are saying netbooks are dead because the computer companies make more money selling you more expensive computers.
01:26 Hackbat yeah but they're much more expensive
01:26 tesla4d masterofmonks, BS
01:26 tesla4d Tablets blow.
01:26 Hackbat I would like one for refrence stuff
01:26 Hackbat the ipad does pdf right?
01:26 masterofmonks I have a Coby Kyros, it does better than my eeePC did.
01:27 Hackbat if so I'd love to have one for sata sheet refence
01:27 Cprossu I love my netbooks
01:27 Cprossu I have a acer aod150 and a aod250
01:27 Hackbat have you seen the new acer aspires?
01:27 Hackbat Holy shit they are sexy
01:28 Cprossu I like my netbooks because I can drop them off a flight of stairs and not shed a tear
01:28 Cprossu that's the reason I got em
01:28 Cprossu so far I haven't been able to kill either one
01:29 tesla4d I still think I might like to start taking SSD modules and potting them so they're nearly indestructible.
01:29 Cprossu well how many gigs are you talking?
01:29 Cprossu I still dislike ssd's
01:29 tesla4d I'm not really sure, honestly.
01:30 tesla4d Just enough for datalogging
01:30 Cprossu well the 40gb intel mlc drive is a nice option
01:30 tesla4d Kind of like telemetry, but without maintaining a wireless link.
01:30 Cprossu I wonder if they've come down in price
01:31 Cprossu for cheap dataloggers though
01:31 Cprossu it's tough to beat sd cards
01:31 tesla4d Yeah.
01:31 tesla4d *sigh*
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01:33 Cprossu oh hell I think my livestream went down again
01:33 Cprossu man procaster is a piece of CRAP
01:39 JA12 Cprossu: http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Intel-SSD-320-Series/
01:40 JA12 the prices have come down a bit
01:40 JA12 the catch is, those are nowhere near the fastest ones in the market
01:50 JA12 and they don't need to be
01:50 Cprossu nope
01:50 Cprossu also sandforce drives really suck
01:51 Cprossu as far as drives with supposed speed
01:52 Cprossu I'll never think a compressed drive could be reliable in a mission critical environment
01:54 JA12 I'm not going to argue the point :) my own point was: ssds are cheap enough for mobile uses. laptops, netbooks, tablets
01:59 Hackbat did yall know Commodore was making Computers again?
02:10 tesla4d I doubt it's the same Commodore
02:16 mikemol Depends on how you define 'same'
02:17 mikemol What makes commodore? The engineers? The product designers? The feature set? The IP (including brand)?
02:18 Cprossu lol
02:18 Cprossu if you just go by who owns the name
02:18 tesla4d I kind of doubt the company in question is anything more than a company that bought the rights to the name.
02:18 Cprossu then sure they're making 'computers' again
02:18 Cprossu yeah they just bought the rights for the ip and the name
02:19 Cprossu and they slapped an atom in a commodore 64 looking like case
02:20 tesla4d Yeah. That's not the same as "commodore is making computers again"
02:20 Cprossu and I am guessing even though they own the c64 stuff the c64 os will just be on a emulator with roms
02:21 Cprossu sadly we won't see a 64bit mos 6502 derived powered computer
02:21 Cprossu that runs amigaos
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02:28 Hackbat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_USA
02:28 Hackbat they're a company seeking to revive the commodore brand
02:31 tesla4d You mean suck from the nostalgia teat? Eeeugh.
02:31 Cprossu still doesn't count ^_^
02:31 tesla4d Ghouls.
02:31 Hackbat Bahh whats wrong with you people
02:32 Cprossu I'm a commodore purist =P
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02:32 Hackbat Whats wrong with people trying their best to to revive the old brands, to make people remeber where it all started
02:32 Hackbat also it looks like my laptop jus went to sleep
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02:33 tesla4d Because 1. They're not the people that came up with the brand or did any of the original work that made the original successful, they're just taking advantage of nostalgia to turn a profit...
02:34 tesla4d And 2. this is not a C64, but a modern computer in a rip-off C64 case. *yawn*
02:34 Hackbat They never called it a commodore 64
02:34 tesla4d I'm unimpressed, and a little disgusted.
02:35 tesla4d I don't think that's a good rebuttal to either of my points, unless I'm misunderstanding.
02:35 Hackbat also they're making for than just the C64x
02:37 tesla4d If you're telling me that they're not trying to take advantage of nostalgia, why dress it up to look just like a C64 and not call it one?
02:37 tesla4d If, on the other hand, you're saying that it's better than a C64 because it's not one, why make it look like one in the first place?
02:38 Hackbat I didn't say either of those things
02:38 tesla4d Oh. Then you weren't trying to rebut my points. Never mind.
02:40 tesla4d Anyway, it doesn't sit right with me.
02:40 Hackbat Well the Commodore 64x was just an introduction.
02:41 JA12 http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2007/07/31/commodore_xx_gaming_pc/1
02:41 Hackbat whats that?
02:43 Cprossu an old attempt another company did
02:43 Hackbat ah
02:43 JA12 that's right
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02:43 Cprossu they tried making a commodore gaming comp
02:43 Cprossu went down like a rock
02:44 Cprossu they were like $7-8k at the time which was pointless
02:46 Hackbat well the prices on these new ones are alot more reasonable.
02:48 JA12 they'll have to bring more to the gaming than just the name. why? because many gamers today are so young and they think ps1 is ancient history
02:48 Hackbat What?
02:49 Hackbat who said anything about gaming?
02:49 JA12 I did
02:49 Hackbat Whats that have to do with the current company revival?
02:50 JA12 it's a company and they want to profit
02:51 Hackbat thats all companies
02:51 JA12 that's what companies do
02:52 JA12 they're not going to profit much by making old or new version of C64, if it doesn't bring some value to the gaming
02:53 Hackbat They're doing more than just c64...
02:53 Hackbat They're trying to set up a fresh Computer company
02:55 Hackbat I look at it this way, if they start trying to push themseles out onto the market and competeing head on with major players like Dell, Acer, Asus, and Apple then they're doing more than just selling to those who remember "The good ol' days"
02:55 JA12 that's all fine
02:56 Hackbat Hell they're even making an OS to run on these damn things
02:56 JA12 my point being, they have equal change with any other name
02:57 JA12 fresh company, fresh name
02:57 Hackbat They're wanting to revive the old name
02:58 Hackbat It's more than likely abunch of old amiga and commodore users that want it revived.
03:00 JA12 I'm not against commodore by any means. it's just not the first time when "commodore is back"
03:01 JA12 it's like duke nukem. "we're here. we have trailers and all" and then: nothing
03:02 Captain__ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnt-BPOwAB4
03:03 Hackbat that opening was quick O.o
03:11 Hackfox It just seems to me like this one has a different goal for the company. All the past ones was slapping the the name onto something that had NOTHING to do with the original brand.
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03:14 Hackfox The only one that came close was Commodore Gaming, but they basicly just followed an alienware sorta thing.
03:17 Hackfox I mean they're yes their new but I just think we should give them a few years before we call it on them.
03:19 cctoide gallery has to be fairly creepy right now with the scanner echoing in an empty room
03:19 Hackfox I had to close the stream, was messing with me
03:23 cctoide Chris being so worried with negative feedback has me kind of curious, though
03:24 cctoide The detractors of TGG never seemed like *that* big a deal in all the other videos
03:24 cctoide certainly not enough that they'd purposely track down and disparage GG online
03:29 Hackfox How would we know?
03:29 Hackfox They approve all the comments
03:29 Hackfox so we never see the bad ones
03:31 cctoide Eh, I just feel like if they were that hell bent on doing that they'd have found this channel already, for instance
03:32 Hackfox Maybe they have?
03:32 cctoide I'm sure he's got a reason to worry about it, but it's going to be hard to have any kind of realtime chat if everything has to be pre-screened
03:32 cctoide eh... pretty sure they haven't, I've never seen anyone go ballistic/get banned in here in the past few months
03:34 Hackfox well they could have gotten banned before hand. idk
03:34 Hackfox Maybe the folks that cause the shit are too dumb to use IRC
03:35 JA12 not related to tgg bashing, but one teenager got himself banned a while back
03:35 Hackfox oh?
03:35 JA12 he had no idea how to behave on IRC channel, even after I told him
03:36 cctoide oh, yeah, that guy
03:36 cctoide the "im cool" guy?
03:36 Hackfox I've been gone for awhile
03:37 JA12 cctoide: he sure wanted a lot of attention
03:37 Hackfox @_@ I've got a certain song in my head now.
03:38 cctoide heh, he was probably 10 or something
03:38 Hackfox http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYws8biwOYc
03:38 Hackfox found the artist on pandora
03:38 Hackfox this is like his only hit song
03:43 cctoide night
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04:18 BatSteve-Away is now known as BatSteve
04:18 BatSteve yo
04:19 Photon939 hi BatSteve
04:19 BatSteve howdy photon
04:19 BatSteve What's the word?
04:19 Photon939 not much
04:19 Photon939 talking to some laser guys and looking at dna sequencers on ebay
04:21 BatSteve They have those on ebay?
04:21 BatSteve I shouldn't be surprised and yet I am
04:21 Photon939 mhm
04:21 Photon939 i've already disassembled three
04:21 dr_jkl grrrr
04:22 * dr_jkl curses loudly at this flipping circuit board
04:22 dr_jkl rohs solder eats
04:24 BatSteve after reading the logs, I'm considering making BotSteve greet CB with "An insatiable thirst for Chris Boden"
04:24 exor674 +1
04:35 BatSteve Cprossu: you probably already figured this out but I wouldn't leave messages for Chris in this channel and expect him to see them.
04:37 BatSteve BotSteve: tell cctoide that yes, there are Boden detractors out there and yes there has been one rather spectacular issue with them in this channel, during the most recent Board of Directors meeting
04:37 BotSteve BatSteve: I'll pass that on when cctoide is around.
04:37 BatSteve Hackfox: not sure if that answers your question
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04:46 BotSteve Welcome back, boss
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08:34 * Sgt_Lemming gibbers quietly to himself in the corner
08:36 * Hackfox continues to play with is arduino
08:37 Sgt_Lemming so I spoke to CB last night, and I have his blessing to come and stay for a couple of weeks later this year
08:38 Hackfox sweet
08:39 Sgt_Lemming now just need to work out how the frack to afford it
08:41 Sgt_Lemming gonna cost me >$2K AUD in airfares
08:43 Hackfox it'd cost less money to start your own chapter
08:43 Hackfox lol
08:44 Sgt_Lemming already got a hackerspace here
08:44 Sgt_Lemming I'm the president of it :-
08:44 Sgt_Lemming :-P
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11:51 Sgt_Lemming night all
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12:39 Cprossu when did the livestream go down?
12:39 Cprossu *ustream
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13:57 mtearle Sgt_Lemming, which hackerspace?
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14:35 Rahlon this is probably the most awesome application of kinect I've seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNN4Oo0KhZo&feature=player_embedded
14:36 MoxieMike That is freaking awesome
14:37 MoxieMike but i'd be happy with just a tesla coil
14:37 mikemol Argh! Another mike!
14:37 MoxieMike But i'm different...I like Moxie
14:37 mikemol As long as people cause you Moxie, no problem. :P
14:37 MoxieMike I respond to that
14:38 mikemol Ever notice how in every group of 30-40, there will be at least two of us?
14:38 MoxieMike yes
14:38 MoxieMike in my indergarden class there were 4 of us
14:38 MoxieMike kindergarden*
14:39 MoxieMike 20% of a classroom should not have the same name
14:39 mikemol At the gaming center I play GURPS at, the business manager is named Mike. I'm Mike. The computer repair guy's name is Dave, but has everyone call him Mike. One of the other guys who works the counter's name is Mike.
14:39 MoxieMike wow, reminds me of a monty pthon sketch
14:40 MoxieMike "we better call you bruce to avoid confusion"
14:40 MoxieMike everyone else is named bruce
14:43 MoxieMike Are you one of the local members?  I have access to some stuff and I'm not sure what use I or the Geek Group could have of it.
14:44 Rahlon hmm my name isn't amazingly common thankfully, though there were 3 Jasons when I was in Secondary school (UK equiv of High School)
14:45 mikemol MoxieMike: Yeah, I'm here in GRR.
14:45 mikemol I get the impression that they can use just about anything, if the quantity is right.
14:46 mikemol I don't hang around at the site enough to have an intimate knowledge of their needs, though.
14:46 mikemol What kind of stuff are you looking at.
14:46 mikemol ?
14:47 mikemol By commonality, it seems the three worst names a guy can have in the US are Mike, Dave and Josh.
14:47 mikemol At one time, I had two Mikes, two Daves and one Josh in the same RP group.
14:53 mman454 RP what does that stand for?
14:53 MoxieMike my friend's camera shop has gone out of business and I have started taking the broken cameras apart to collect parts.  Usually the flash capacitor.
14:54 dagnyscott nice.
14:55 mman454 So are you going to tie a bunch of those flash caps together to make a nice little capacitor bank?
15:00 MoxieMike i was thinking it, but wasn't sure if they were good enough for that purpose
15:01 MoxieMike they're all 330V and 160 uF i think
15:02 MoxieMike but i was wondering if they wanted the flash strobe
15:09 mikemol MoxieMike: I really don't know. Best guess, they might get thrown into a parts bin people can draw (or buy) from.
15:09 MoxieMike ok
15:09 mikemol Any chance he has a film frive gear for a Minolta X700 laying around? ^^
15:09 mikemol *drive
15:09 mikemol Mine's stripped because I was an idiot a few years ago.
15:10 mikemol Still am an idiot, but for different things now. :)
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15:10 MoxieMike i'm not sure, but if she doesn't she'll know where to send you
15:11 mikemol Also, GG has a photography lab, or at least there's spec for one. They may be able to use things she doesn't have use for.
15:13 MoxieMike maybe
15:13 MoxieMike i'm not sure what's she's doing with her developing chemicals or her film developer/printer
15:14 mikemol If she wants to get rid of it (for cash or not), you might have her and Captain_ get in contact.
15:15 mikemol Is this somewhere in WMi?
15:15 MoxieMike no, we're in maine
15:15 mikemol Ah
15:16 mikemol Hm. If it were in MI, they'd probably drive out and pick it up. ME would be a little far.
15:16 MoxieMike ya
15:39 Rahlon lol some of the comments on the live stream...
15:39 Rahlon waiting....waiting....waiting.... 14 minutes ago • Ben Kennett
15:39 Rahlon Pepijn Hazelhof waiting 36 minutes ago • Pepijn Hazelhof
15:39 MoxieMike haha
15:39 Rahlon as if there will be a great deal to see when it is live XD
15:41 MoxieMike but the galactic control center is so exciting
15:42 cctoide they really need a mission control screen up top though
15:42 BotSteve cctoide: At 04:37Z, BatSteve asked me to tell you that yes, there are Boden detractors out there and yes there has been one rather spectacular issue with them in this channel, during the most recent Board of Directors meeting
15:43 MoxieMike fun fun
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15:43 cctoide projector might be cheaper... doubt it'd be visible with the lighting there though
15:45 MoxieMike it's hard to tell...different projectors and display surfaces behave differently
15:45 Rahlon wow there are some odd stream on ustream,  http://www.ustream.tv/channel/hayustudy
15:45 cctoide BotSteve, tell BatSteve ah. well, I stand corrected then (re: GG detractors).
15:45 BotSteve cctoide: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
15:45 Rahlon just somone studying
15:46 MoxieMike i could set one up for my fish tank
15:46 cctoide there's about as many random streams on there as random videos on youtube, sometimes it's people streaming from their laptop cams or something
15:48 cctoide Can't recall if it was on UStream or justin.tv but there was one which was a trucker who had a dash cam set up and IRC on a small screen over the center console
15:48 MoxieMike that sounds safe
15:49 mikemol If Chris wants to get away from UStream and social streaming services (and I love that idea very much), then there are a couple avenues to investigate.
15:49 Obtuse I could punch like everything right now
15:49 Obtuse just RAGE
15:49 Obtuse (Dental pain)
15:49 Obtuse I'm not really aggressive
15:50 Obtuse but waiting until tomorrow just sucks
15:50 Obtuse having 4 wisdom teeth removed
15:50 MoxieMike those are fun
15:50 mikemol One in multicasting. It's a required feature stack component of IPv6, so the data can certainly get out that way.
15:51 MoxieMike you will live on pudding and jello for a little while
15:51 mikemol Another plausible way would be to find someone willing to donate bandwidth to an Icecast or similar server, with video in the stream mux.
15:51 Obtuse I will be making Bill Cosb references
15:51 * mikemol grumbles
15:51 mikemol This is very strongly in the area of expertise of a friend of mine. I really wish I could get him involved.
15:52 MoxieMike just keep trying
15:52 Obtuse why can't you get him involved?
15:52 mikemol The more I push, the more I risk hype aversion.
15:53 MoxieMike true
15:53 mikemol I'm already treading in that territory with a lot of people right now.
15:54 MoxieMike brb in 10min
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16:04 Obtuse http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/08/pf/college/best_paying_college_majors/?section=money_latest
16:04 Obtuse Engineering = Money
16:05 mikemol Only if you're good.
16:05 mikemol That's a prereq that a lot of people seem to miss.
16:05 Obtuse good at?
16:05 MoxieMike back
16:05 mikemol Don't mind me...I'm still bitter about the tech boom of the late 90s, early 00s.
16:05 Obtuse however i'm not seeing the benefits of 60 k in this area
16:06 mikemol I was into computers long before everyone thought there was a lot of money in it. Then a bunch of lazy gold-diggers got into the field.
16:07 Obtuse lol.
16:07 mikemol dagnyscott called me a 'hipster computer geek' yesterday or the day before. I was amused.
16:07 mikemol I'm even more hip than the iWhatever users... :D
16:07 MoxieMike but it also leaves a large part of electrical engineering ripe for the picking
16:07 kevvan lol
16:07 dagnyscott i didn't call you that.
16:07 Obtuse i have an electrical degree, but i primarily do computer science
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16:08 mikemol dagnyscott: What did you call me, then?
16:08 dagnyscott someone else called you that. Maybe Dave.
16:08 mikemol Ah
16:08 mikemol I guess that'd make sense.
16:08 mikemol mea culpa.
16:08 BatSteve-Away is now known as BatSteve
16:08 mikemol Ok, I had two terrible typos in there, the first time I typed that.
16:08 mikemol "me a cupla"?
16:10 wannabe1987 lol
16:11 cctoide mea cupola.
16:11 BatSteve Any messages for me, BotSteve?
16:11 BotSteve BatSteve: At 15:45Z, cctoide asked me to tell you ah. well, I stand corrected then (re: GG detractors).
16:11 BotSteve BatSteve: At 15:45Z, cctoide asked me to tell you ah. well, I stand corrected then (re: GG detractors).
16:11 BatSteve Thanks BotSteve!
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16:11 BatSteve ...hahahhahaha
16:11 mikemol lol
16:12 BatSteve oh well.  I'll use this opportunity to update him to the latest version.
16:12 MoxieMike good plan
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16:24 BatSteve <insert clever insult here>
16:24 Seroster BatSteve, I think Botsteve is dead :(
16:24 BatSteve I know, I'm picking up his slack
16:24 BatSteve (grin)
16:24 Seroster Riiight
16:24 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNhXAcHfdSg&amp;feature=feedu  awesome!
16:24 BatSteve Actually he's down for maintenance.
16:24 MoxieMike clever insult to whom?
16:24 Seroster To me
16:24 Seroster When I join Botsteve greets me with an insult
16:24 BatSteve Whenever Seroster joins, our bot insults him
16:24 MoxieMike ah
16:25 Seroster And then I go cry and have a cookie. Then I feel better ^^
16:25 BatSteve You have cookies?  I want one....
16:25 * mikemol tosses some cookies to BatSteve.
16:25 Seroster You're in new mexico, huh?
16:25 BatSteve om nom nom
16:26 Seroster If you come here (cost about 3 grand both ways) you can have one of my 75cent cookies =P
16:26 BatSteve I see nothing wrong with this plan
16:28 cctoide I wonder how Google profits from Street View.
16:28 wannabe1987 we're not allowed to have website issues!  we're a bunch of geeks!
16:28 wannabe1987 lol
16:29 Seroster cctoide, more views?
16:29 cctoide I was reading about how they plan on introducing it in Arab countries and from the sounds of it it's going to be gimped to the point where it loses most of its interest as a novelty
16:30 Seroster Eh
16:31 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1eO3PCNvDI&amp;feature=feedu  He makin boobies!
16:31 MoxieMike he's making silicon...not silicone
16:32 Seroster ....I know.
16:32 Seroster But that isnt at all as fun to say "He makin coputah chips!"
16:33 MoxieMike http://theodoregray.com/PeriodicTable/Elements/014/index.s7.html#sample2
16:34 BatSteve Things I like about Linux:  There is a checkbox in the options menu in Kdiff3 labeled simply "Try hard"
16:34 MoxieMike but what does it do?
16:34 Seroster Self destruct?
16:34 MoxieMike or is it just a selector bit with no real purpose
16:36 BatSteve I assume it makes the program try harder
16:36 BatSteve (grin)
16:36 MoxieMike i suppose it could
16:36 BatSteve kdiff3 is a merge tool, probably what it does is make it search farther for merge possibilites before giving up and asking the user what to do
16:37 MoxieMike but maybe it's a processor priority selector
16:39 BatSteve Could be that too
16:45 wannabe1987 only part of this netbook that sucks is the whole "speakers on the bottom" bit...i cannot watch quiet movies...batman begins starts off VERY quiet...with talking...and...i cannot understand cuz i don't have volume...and my volumes are all turned up as far as they go :(
16:45 wannabe1987 i want usb speakers :(
16:54 MoxieMike why not head phones
17:12 Obtuse you want Alesis M1 Active 320 USB speakers
17:13 Obtuse http://www.amazon.com/Alesis-M1Active-Studio-Monitor-Pair/dp/B0011Z87I0
17:13 Obtuse I use them and love them
17:13 Obtuse but i don't use the USB feature
17:14 Obtuse i have, but i prefer to do other things with my signal usually
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17:39 BatSteve ohai BotSteve
17:39 BotSteve Hey BatSteve!
17:39 Seroster Ohai BotSteve
17:39 BotSteve Hey Seroster
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17:39 BatSteve .minecraft
17:39 BotSteve The 'official' TGG minecraft server address is: gamerxreviews.net **** tesla4d also hosts a roleplay-oriented server at bluebengal.dyndns.org
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17:39 BotSteve I know, I hate him too.  Oh, oops, he's here.  Hi Seroster.
17:39 Seroster =)
17:39 BatSteve awesome
17:39 BatSteve but wait
17:39 BatSteve there might be more
17:39 Seroster DUN DUN DUUUUUN!
17:40 BatSteve .c 2+7
17:40 BotSteve 9
17:40 BatSteve Calculator works again
17:40 Seroster Olol.
17:40 Seroster .c 5/0
17:40 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
17:40 BatSteve but wait, there might be more
17:40 Seroster Dividing by ZEEEROOOO!
17:40 Seroster BWAHAHAH
17:40 cctoide .c 5!
17:40 BotSteve 120
17:40 Seroster =D
17:40 Seroster 5!
17:41 cctoide I'm curious to see if it has some protection against resource hogging
17:41 cctoide but I'm not enough of a dick to try :p
17:42 Darksecond cctoide: it might be very good at calculating pi ;)
17:42 Darksecond also, hi all!
17:42 BatSteve cctoide: such as?
17:42 cctoide Calculating the factorial of a reasonably large number
17:43 BatSteve You're welcome to try it with a reasonably medium number.  (grin)
17:44 BatSteve also, hi Darksecond!
17:45 BatSteve waitaminute...
17:45 BatSteve how come he's not identifying...
17:45 BatSteve just a sec
17:45 BatSteve BotSteve: Break Time!
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17:48 BatSteve Let's see if he identifies this time
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17:48 BatSteve Nope
17:48 cctoide Windows calculator craps out around 3248! with an overflow
17:48 BatSteve crap
17:49 Seroster .c 350!
17:49 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
17:49 Seroster O
17:49 Seroster .c 20!
17:49 BotSteve 2.43290201 × 10^(18)
17:49 Seroster Olol =D
17:49 Seroster .c 50!
17:49 BotSteve 3.04140932 × 10^(64)
17:49 Seroster Sweeet
17:49 Seroster .c 100!
17:49 cctoide probably do it in PM though :p
17:49 BotSteve 9.33262154 × 10^(157)
17:49 Seroster Daaaaamn
17:49 cctoide if it accepts that
17:49 Seroster Pft, cc =P
17:49 Seroster And it's a HE, not an IT! =P
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17:50 Seroster .c 150!
17:50 BotSteve 5.71338396 × 10^(262)
17:51 Seroster So he cant handle 350 but he CAN handle 150.
17:52 Seroster Ah!
17:52 Seroster .c 171!
17:52 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
17:52 Seroster .c 170!
17:52 BotSteve 7.25741562 × 10^(306)
17:52 Seroster =D
17:53 Seroster BatSteve, can it divide?
17:53 Seroster .c 10/2
17:53 BotSteve 5
17:53 Seroster O.
17:53 Seroster .c 10/3
17:53 BotSteve 3.33333333
17:54 Darksecond .c 5^23
17:54 BotSteve 1.1920929 × 10^(16)
17:55 cctoide "3248 - largest number whose factorial is less than 10^10000"
17:55 cctoide ... "hence its factorial is the largest certain advanced computer programs can handle"
17:56 Seroster o
17:56 Seroster .c 3248^3248
17:56 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
17:56 Seroster I dont like that answer. I'd prefer "Ey, do your own math!"
17:57 BatSteve (grin)
17:57 cctoide I'm not seeing the connection to 10^10000 though.
17:57 BatSteve I wonder if this will work
17:57 BatSteve .wa 3248^3248
17:57 BotSteve 3248^3248;5355928967135703863961134661335570716465731971004123291528576270381150856760398616075259446546804716321250673903226709280680340029360181857910668415164381236843883267049697314366330550704787484369106712979930913486834081220889805971105051999651675259450784210103561546759189461515321007741377839411578098233048029461098567887325134227495999748497632522935415918666194232524209595295612682072008364968...;5.3559289
17:57 cctoide Doesn't seem like it would be a data type limitation as most have a way lower limit than that
17:57 Seroster Daaaaamn
17:57 BatSteve wa searches wolfram alpha
17:57 Darksecond :D
17:57 Darksecond .wa camels/cows
17:58 BotSteve Camelus  (animals) -> Bos  (animals);Camelus->Camelus  (genus), Bos->Bos  (genus);->Camelus->Bos, kingdom->Animalia  (animals)->Animalia  (animals), phylum->Chordata  (chordates)->Chordata  (chordates), class->Mammalia  (mammals)->Mammalia  (mammals), order->Artiodactyla  (antelope, giraffe, camels, pigs, hippos, ...)->Artiodactyla  (antelope, giraffe, camels, pigs, hippos, ...), family->Camelidae  (camels, llamas, alpa
17:58 Seroster .wa 3500^3500
17:58 BotSteve 3500^3500;1730434742399898566495007936224560061803018921990755244091418372597494476185505052232343259597533937247018695212341259507334540372341444443576205163753104724429556619828634995450361550794031160200027809657947819090292480308802642208869361818111322089093418748719854597307225170169662757841717343264101450346050847877511119849390938585898821036963851383231867639743767833293304750016710337556489591369...;1.7304347
17:58 Seroster Lol, that's just vomit
17:58 Seroster .c PI to the last decilam
17:58 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
17:58 Seroster .c PI to the last decimal*
17:58 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
17:58 Darksecond .wa camels*c/pi
17:58 BotSteve all countries, dependencies, and territories->livestock population->camels&times;c\/pi;(25385468 c)\/pi   (2008 and 2009 estimates), (based on 47 values; 192 unavailable);1->China->(235000 c)\/pi , 2->India->(632000 c)\/pi , 3->Pakistan->(1000000 c)\/pi , 4->Nigeria->(18800 c)\/pi , 5->Russia->(6222 c)\/pi , (vertical ellipsis)-> -> , 43->Namibia->(75 c)\/pi , 44->Qatar->(34000 c)\/pi , 45->Djibouti->(70000 c)\/pi , 46-
17:58 Seroster Crud. It worked in star trek!
17:58 Seroster .wa pi
17:58 BotSteve pi;3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749...;pi is a transcendental number;[3; 7, 15, 1, 292, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 3, 1, 14, 2, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 84, 2, 1, 1, ...];pi = 180 &deg;;pi = -i log(-1);pi = cos^(-1)(-1);pi = 4 sum_(k=0)^infinity(-1)^k\/(2 k+1);pi = -2+2 sum_(k=1)^infinity2^k\/(2 k, k);pi = sum_(k=0)^infinity(50 k-6)\/(2^k (3 k, k));pi = 2 integral_0^infinity1\/(t^2+1) dt;pi = 4 integral_0^1
17:59 Darksecond nice bot :)
17:59 BatSteve he's pretty awesome
17:59 Seroster .wa last decimal of PI
17:59 BotSteve Couldn't grab results from json stringified precioussss.
17:59 Darksecond o.o
17:59 Seroster Lol
17:59 Seroster WA = wikianswers?
18:00 BatSteve (01:57:42 PM) Seroster: Daaaaamn
18:00 BatSteve (01:57:43 PM) BatSteve:  wa searches wolfram alpha
18:00 Seroster Eh?
18:00 BatSteve WA = Wolfram Alpha homeboy, not wikianswers
18:01 Darksecond lol
18:04 BatSteve .w dual weild
18:04 BotSteve "Dual wielding is to hold a weapon in each hand." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_wield
18:04 BatSteve .trope dual wield
18:04 BotSteve BatSteve: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DualWielding
18:04 BatSteve there, that's what I wanted
18:06 BatSteve Also
18:07 BatSteve The front page to the forums is down but you can still get there by clicking on one of the recent posts links on the front page
18:07 BatSteve If anyone is feeling forum-deprived
18:08 mikemol BatSteve: Related to this post, perhaps? http://thegeekgroup.org/?page_id=1035/the-geek-website/website-bug-reports/#p43969
18:08 BatSteve mikemol: I *just* read that
18:08 mikemol Heh
18:08 BatSteve like within 15 seconds of your message
18:09 mikemol Working URL to forums: http://thegeekgroup.org/?page_id=1035/
18:09 BatSteve Also, I thought of bugtracking a while back but didn't suggest it because I make enough trouble around the forums
18:09 cctoide members.php just disappeared though
18:09 BatSteve But now that you've brought it up I plan to throw my full support behind the proposal
18:09 Electronics arghh! what's happening!
18:09 BatSteve so thank you
18:09 mikemol Heh
18:11 mikemol I've been uncomfortable reporting bugs because I already know I'm not on TPB's favorable side right now. I've already learned not to point out a problem and offer a solution. Pointing out problems that are already known is a surefire way to get on a dev's bad side. I should know...
18:14 Seroster TPB?
18:14 Seroster Thepiratebay?
18:14 mikemol "The powers that be"
18:15 mikemol Though I typo'd PTB.
18:16 BatSteve The thing is that I'm not worried about getting on Tysk's bad side, it's more that she's got *so* many things on her plate that I figure if I ask her to do something, it better be something crucial
18:16 BatSteve I don't want to fill up her day with trivial requests
18:17 mikemol I wouldn't mind being able to _fulfill_ some of the trivial requests, but I'm not in a position to do that.
18:19 mikemol The other problem for me, right now, is that I think I might be in a hypomanic/obsessive cycle right now with helping with GG stuff, and the position I'm stuck in feels like a car put in neutral with the gas pedal to the floor.
18:19 BatSteve interesting
18:19 BatSteve expand on that some?
18:20 mikemol I've been diagnosed at various times with ADHD, Aspergers and 'ocd-like symptoms'. Though the closest match I've found to what I experience might be hypomania.
18:20 mikemol .w hypomania
18:20 BotSteve "Hypomania (literally, 'below mania' ) is a mood state characterized by persistent and pervasive elevated (euphoric) or irritable mood, as well as thoughts and behaviors that are consistent with such a mood state." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypomania
18:21 mikemol I don't get depressed often, but I do get extremely energetic and obsessed with topics or activities from time to time.
18:22 BatSteve Don't worry about it too much, that's how everyone feels their first couple of months at TGG.
18:23 BatSteve Chris Boden ranks just under heroin on the Jenkins Scale of Addictiveness
18:24 mikemol Heh
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19:12 mikemol Argh
19:12 mikemol "(The earliest revolvers were muzzle-loaded with loose powder and ball, making reloading under fire nigh-impossible.)"
19:12 mikemol Erp
19:12 mikemol Hm. nm.
19:12 * mikemol forgot revolvers predate cartridges.
19:20 Seroster err
19:20 BatSteve BotSteve: Break Time!
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19:21 * BatSteve reloads
19:21 BatSteve there we go
19:21 BatSteve maybe
19:21 BatSteve wait
19:21 BatSteve opposite of good..
19:21 BatSteve BotSteve: Break Time!
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19:22 BatSteve BotSteve having ops is about the worst possible idea
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19:22 BatSteve dagnabit
19:23 BatSteve BotSteve: Break Time!
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19:23 BatSteve is now known as BotSteve
19:23 BotSteve is now known as BatSteve
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19:24 BatSteve Success!
19:29 BatSteve and now time to depart
19:29 BatSteve is now known as BatSteve-Away
19:41 Rahlon just found out there is a hackerspace near where I live, awesome, wish I'd known sooner
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20:17 wannabe1987 .
20:18 MoxieMike ..
20:18 Rahlon .
20:18 wannabe1987 ..
20:18 MoxieMike ...
20:18 Rahlon ....
20:19 Rahlon `-`
20:19 MoxieMike -
20:20 MoxieMike what's new guys?
20:21 wannabe1987 dots
20:21 JA12 was that some sort of ascii foreplay?
20:21 wannabe1987 i hope not
20:21 wannabe1987 i dot a lot
20:22 Rahlon lol ascii cyber :P>-O
20:24 wannabe1987 does anyone have batman comic book #627 laying around anywhere?
20:24 MoxieMike no
20:25 JA12 sorry, no
20:28 MadManMarkAu God damn it, why are Bukkit plugin users so god-damned demanding?
20:29 MadManMarkAu 4:30AM and I'm still coding..
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20:45 Seroster My cats hate me atm
20:45 cctoide why is your plugin not updated yet!!?? godd
20:46 MoxieMike what did you do to them?
20:46 cctoide :p
20:46 Seroster Disassembled a large portion for their tree for some repairs
20:46 Seroster Cardboard tubes wound with 3/4 inch hemp rope... And they clawed off all the damn rope =P
20:47 MoxieMike haha
20:47 Seroster Replaced, glued, put some temporary straps around to keep it all nice and snug when it dries... And the cats hate me for it =P
20:48 Seroster Btw, the straps I use are actually bike inner tubes with a hook on each end, great elastic bands
20:49 MoxieMike cool...whatever works
20:49 Seroster =)
20:49 Seroster Well, you can't beat the price since people throw them away all the time, and it doesnt matter if they are like swizz cheese
20:50 MoxieMike true
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21:36 Rahlon is the live stream showing broadcasting, but not loading in to anyone elese or just me?
21:38 Seroster Ocrap
21:38 Seroster I need to get more supplies for my zobiepokalypse preparation
21:38 Seroster Just realised that I havent got water for more than a couple of days
21:39 MoxieMike for me it says offline
21:40 Rahlon yeah it's been up and down like crazy
21:40 Rahlon must be working on it
21:40 master0fmonks is now known as masterofmonks
21:40 MoxieMike i bet there's going to be an intersting captain's blog tomorrow
21:41 Rahlon why?
21:41 wannabe1987 tomorrow?  or tonight?
21:41 MoxieMike it might be a play by play fight with the hardware
21:42 MoxieMike either
21:42 MoxieMike recorded today, posted either tonight or tomorrow
21:42 wannabe1987 ahhh
21:42 wannabe1987 so it IS today's cptns blog
21:42 Seroster When is tonight?
21:42 wannabe1987 7 hours
21:43 wannabe1987 is midnight...
21:43 Seroster Thanks
21:43 wannabe1987 :)
21:43 wannabe1987 wait
21:43 Rahlon hmm I've got a crazy imagination, in my head I see a boxing ring, one corner chirs, and in the other a camera
21:43 wannabe1987 6 hours and like 20 min is midnight
21:43 wannabe1987 lol
21:43 Seroster 20 mins is midnight
21:43 MoxieMike that's what you get for being 6 hours ahead
21:43 Rahlon chris*
21:44 Thermoelectric "Chris Boden: Thunderstorm pooched the live feed computer. IT may take a while to repair/replace. Anyone who wants to actually help and knows their way around video capture and streaming is welcome to join."
21:44 MoxieMike they just need to hit it with a hammer
21:45 Seroster Europe has always ben a bit ahead of America.
21:45 wannabe1987 i didn't even know we had a t-storm :P
21:45 wannabe1987 i just know the windows are open
21:45 Seroster Tea storm! Every chinese's nightmare
21:45 Thermoelectric Hehe
21:45 MoxieMike hah
21:46 wannabe1987 lol
21:46 Seroster wannabe1987, number 0-10 please =P
21:46 wannabe1987 3.1415926
21:47 * wannabe1987 is scared..whats these numbers for?!
21:47 Seroster 3 1 4 1 5 9 2 6  that is 3 even, 5 uneven.
21:47 wannabe1987 ok...
21:47 Seroster Uneven = i eat a bad snack,  even = i eat a healthy snack
21:48 wannabe1987 i have a RCA cable i have no clue what its for...:D
21:48 Seroster It's for Boden!
21:48 wannabe1987 *gives to boden*
21:49 wannabe1987 what the hell is that car?!
21:49 Seroster Onya
21:49 * wannabe1987 is sad she cannot figure it out
21:49 wannabe1987 what KIND
21:49 MoxieMike a civic del sol i believe
21:50 wannabe1987 make model?
21:50 wannabe1987 o ok
21:50 Seroster Honda
21:50 Rahlon stream is up
21:50 MoxieMike ustream is working
21:50 MoxieMike and it's down
21:50 Rahlon now it's down :D
21:50 Rahlon :P
21:50 wannabe1987 ihave old captn's blogs to watch...
21:50 MoxieMike and up
21:50 wannabe1987 i've missed a few
21:50 Rahlon now it's up
21:50 wannabe1987 up and down and up and down...sounds...like chris?  no?
21:51 MoxieMike a bit, or is there more to chris than I've seen in the vids?
21:52 wannabe1987 he likes sex
21:52 Seroster Who doesnt?
21:52 wannabe1987 me
21:52 * wannabe1987 is 24 yo virgin
21:52 Seroster That's because you are a virgin.
21:52 MoxieMike and that's ok
21:53 Seroster That's like saying "I hate driving stick" when you have only used auto...
21:53 wannabe1987 i LOVE driving stick :D
21:53 Seroster Just as you'd love sex
21:53 MoxieMike true
21:54 wannabe1987 probably.  darn.  have to wait
21:55 Seroster You don't HAVE to wait, you can fuck whoever you want to. whenever you want to, if they want to thatis. It's nothing magic about sex, but it's fun.
21:55 Rahlon is the audio dodgy for anyone else?
21:55 Seroster Yes.
21:55 MoxieMike it's kinda quiet, but other than that
21:55 Seroster BG noise
21:55 Seroster Don't you get that "old cable" sound?
21:56 Seroster The signal isnt the best
21:56 Seroster And, talking about sex, I think I'll take a shower
21:56 wannabe1987 ok
21:57 Seroster God damn chris got an ugly shirt
21:57 Seroster Looks like a redneck
21:57 Rahlon correction many ugly shirts, but who said geeks have style :P
21:57 Seroster ...That's not the lack of style, that shirt is like babyrape.
21:57 wannabe1987 lol
21:58 wannabe1987 ADS!?  what is this abomination!!!!
22:01 Rahlon lol
22:10 MoxieMike chris seems excitable
22:12 Seroster Elloh
22:15 wannabe1987 lol
22:23 Seroster The buzzer will be a GREAT hit, Rahlon!
22:23 Seroster Hook it to the air raid siren and they'll be extra happy
22:23 Rahlon :D
22:23 MoxieMike ya
22:23 Rahlon lmao
22:23 MoxieMike the neighbors would love it
22:23 wannabe1987 no
22:23 wannabe1987 i dont want to hear it
22:23 Rahlon must be spamable!
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22:28 Seroster they should hook that camera to chatroulette
22:28 MoxieMike hahaha
22:29 Coderjoe crap. I forgot about the AMS/NWA meeting tonight
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22:37 Coderjoe what is causing that pulsing noise on the video feed?
22:37 Seroster gremlin
22:37 Seroster Poltergeist
22:37 Seroster Dysaligned crystals
22:37 Seroster Or the brain altering waves from the gouverment
22:38 MoxieMike mmm...could be
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23:01 Seroster A couple of weeks ago I bought a 7-up because they are damn tasty. And then I forgot to drink it. And now when I think about if I should drink it I hesitate, because if I drink it now I can't drink it some other time. Isnt that rather stupid?
23:03 Cprossu are any of tgg members in the livestream video in irc?
23:03 Seroster I doubt it
23:03 MoxieMike don't think so
23:04 Seroster http://www.wikihow.com/Cook-Food-on-Your-Car%27s-Engine
23:04 Cprossu nice a buick 3.8
23:04 Cprossu not supercharged though
23:06 Seroster Lol
23:07 Seroster http://www.wisebread.com/cooking-great-meals-with-your-car-engine-the-heat-is-on this is better
23:07 Cprossu I'm looking for the old photo of an army jeep doing said things
23:07 Seroster I know the one you mean
23:07 Cprossu I can't find it and it's such an awesome pic
23:18 Coderjoe i miss ustream using irc for their chat backend
23:18 Coderjoe I don't WANT to connect social sites to ustream
23:18 MoxieMike i didn't realize that ustream used irc once upon a time
23:19 Coderjoe MoxieMike: yeah. the servers are still up, but the chatrooms are apparently no longer connected to the website chat
23:20 Coderjoe this noise almost acts like a dynamics compressor is boosting when the room is quiet and getting into some noise floor
23:21 Cprossu lol a male to male whatever the smaller version of this is
23:21 Cprossu good line
23:22 Coderjoe haha
23:22 Coderjoe another manhole cover theft?
23:23 Coderjoe there was another one of those a week or two ago
23:24 Cprossu nooooooooooooooooo
23:25 Seroster wtf?
23:25 Seroster What manhole cover?
23:25 Coderjoe it is NOT fixed. the sound in the room is louder so the noise is not being boosted
23:25 Coderjoe Seroster: I don't know. missed that part of the call
23:25 Seroster And why do you steal a anhole cover? Hang it on the wall? ^o)
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23:26 Coderjoe create mayhem when someone hits it? stupidly try and sell it for scrap?
23:27 Cprossu suicidal person?!
23:28 Seroster How much would a manhole cover cost? 50kgs?
23:29 Seroster You get about 75cents per kilo for iron, 50*0.75=37.5 bucks.   The work to get it out, and the gas to drive to a scrap dealer....
23:29 Seroster And the risk of being caught...
23:29 Coderjoe you would be caught when you brought it to the scrap dealer
23:29 MoxieMike ya, copper pays much better, but it's harder to find in large quantities
23:30 Seroster Coderjoe, Ah, there are no corrupt scrap dealers?
23:30 Coderjoe there is the possibility of that, yes
23:30 cctoide Coderjoe: UStream still uses IRC for chat afaik
23:30 cctoide it's just disabled on the GG channel
23:30 Coderjoe boooo
23:31 Seroster America are way less bitchy than sweden when it comes to trading scrap, but even here there are people who won't ask any questions when you the day after a huge copper statue has ben stole will accept the copper statue you just happen to have laying around...
23:32 Coderjoe what's geekier than IRC?
23:33 Cprossu usenet?
23:33 exor674 gopher?
23:33 Coderjoe between irc, twitter, facebook, aim, and myspace
23:34 Cprossu BBS!
23:38 Seroster I want an Ecig
23:38 MoxieMike i do too
23:38 MoxieMike but i'm trying to figure out which to get
23:38 MoxieMike the magma, the inferno using magma attys or the inferno with tankomizer
23:39 Seroster Tried to send a mail to info@thegeekgroup.org asking if I could make a donation of $10, buy a member card, and purchase an Ecig (thatis chris buys one from volcano and sends to me, with anohter $10 for the work) - shipping costs thus reduced.
23:39 Seroster No reply =P
23:40 Seroster That would be a total of $40 + the cost of the ecig, evryone should be happy
23:40 MoxieMike one would think
23:41 Seroster Or I'll find someone closer to home that sells Ecig
23:41 tesla4d Oh, god. This dialogue: "Did I mention I was shot?" "Shot?! Shot where?" "In the Control Room..."
23:42 Seroster "in the control room" In the brain? =D
23:42 tesla4d No. -.-
23:42 Seroster ...I know
23:43 Seroster MoxieMike, I am not even addicted to nicotine, I just like smoking.
23:43 MoxieMike same here
23:46 MoxieMike i'd be getting 0mg e-juice
23:46 Seroster Aye
23:47 MoxieMike which ecig were you thinking of getting
23:47 Seroster I think I would smoke an equivalent of about 2 cigs a day
23:47 Seroster Well, probably a mid size
23:47 Seroster More hookah than cigarette
23:48 Seroster I like the smoke... =P
23:49 westmi I didnt think smoke was involved with the ecig
23:49 MoxieMike i'll occasionally smoke a pipe, but i don't want the niccotine effects
23:50 MoxieMike it isn't
23:50 Seroster I do smoke regular cigs too, but since the cheapest crap you can get is five bucks for a pack of 19....
23:50 Seroster westmi, not so much smoke as vapour
23:50 Seroster Same kind of smoke as your breath a cold winters day
23:50 westmi some kind of nicotine aerosol
23:51 Seroster Water vapour, nicotine and some taste, yes
23:51 Seroster Doesnt stick to clothing, no tar, no carbon monoxide...
23:52 Seroster 3. Water, Nicotine, and flavouring
23:52 Seroster fuck ass.
23:52 westmi trying to quit cigs myself
23:52 Seroster Instead of 3000 different kinds of chemicals (including tar and carbon monoxide) you get 3, water nic and flavour.
23:52 westmi been substituting pot for it
23:52 Seroster HEH
23:53 westmi now i get high more often
23:53 Seroster Where do you live??
23:53 westmi ha
23:53 westmi lol
23:53 westmi michigan
23:53 westmi about 20 miles from gg central
23:53 Seroster Well
23:54 Seroster Lay off the pot and the cigarettes, get an Ecig, it costs about a sixth of what regular cigarettes costs, and I won't even do the calculations on pot =P
23:54 westmi why quit pot?
23:54 westmi that has benifits
23:54 westmi cigs= no benifits
23:54 westmi lol
23:54 Seroster 1, Illegal. 2, expensive, 3, 100% of the regular users I know are mentally lacking now.
23:55 Seroster Somehow it fucks with your brain, "It's like your thoughts are honey"
23:55 westmi hmmm
23:55 westmi i've been getting pot cheeper than cigs lately
23:56 westmi as crazy as that sounds
23:56 Seroster Either you have reeeeally cheap cigs in the us or you have ben smoking horse shit instead of pot.
23:56 westmi cigs in michigan get taxed to hell
23:56 Seroster What do they cost?
23:56 westmi 4 times a much as they cost to make
23:57 Seroster Here they cost 2kr each, wich calculated to dollars is about 40 cents
23:57 westmi most of the cost of a pack is taxes
23:57 Coderjoe "sin tax"
23:57 Seroster No, it's called syntax ;P
23:57 westmi lol, 50 to 60 bucks for a carton
23:57 westmi 5+ for a pack
23:59 Seroster and per cig?
23:59 westmi ha, and in michigan we voted for "medical marajuana
23:59 Coderjoe where is Paul looking for an answer
23:59 westmi it is legal here now
23:59 Coderjoe wikipedia says 40 feet deep
23:59 Coderjoe 20 feet wide

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