Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-04-13

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Time Nick Message
00:00 TheSessionMan always have a spotter
00:00 LittleGreenFlame Ok...  Hes talking, but whats he acually trying to achive?
00:00 Seroster Hack, or... Your multimeter? =P
00:00 Seroster Btw, Captain_, you should do a dedicated safety video some day, stuffed with the hints and tips that most people learn by screwing stuff up.
00:00 Hackbat Well that applys to ALOT of stuff
00:01 Fulsy I think I'll have my dad recap the amp
00:01 TheSessionMan also, remember your soldering iron is HOT!
00:01 Yaotz Yeah there was one safty video a long time ago
00:01 Fulsy After all, he worked in a company that made oscillators
00:01 Captain_ Start a forum post on it, that's a good idea.
00:01 Yaotz but it never went beyond that
00:01 Cprossu I don't think you'll ever truely learn something unless you mess up spectacularly at some point
00:01 Seroster Captain_, the forums doesnt like me.
00:01 thaery Like grabbing your soldering iron by the wrong end
00:02 Yaotz Well you'll only do that once
00:02 Coderjoe this is also a bit interesting:
00:02 Hackbat we all do that at least once
00:02 TheSessionMan i punched mine off the table accidently the other day.
00:02 Captain_ The website will be back online in a few days.
00:02 Seroster I had a soldering iron where the wrong end was hot in more than one sense of the word.
00:02 TheSessionMan had a nice crispy feeling to my hand
00:02 Fulsy lol
00:02 thaery I made the room smell like BBQ
00:02 Hackbat I had a soldering gun that would turn on whrn you set it down
00:03 Fulsy So what is the purpose behind NTSC colourbars?
00:03 Hackbat and the case would melt more the longer you had it on
00:03 Yaotz This is to get the color synced between multiple cameras?
00:03 Seroster The retard who owned the iron before me hooked phase to the right place, but he used the neutral as both neutral and ground. Wich is retarded since we got the german type plugs, the ones where you can reverse phase and neutral....
00:03 TheSessionMan i use a five dollar princess auto one. heats up nice, but the tip dissolves fast.
00:03 Yaotz or monitors?
00:03 thaery sweet piece of equipment
00:03 Fulsy yea
00:04 TheSessionMan i have to use my gerber to file a point every now and then. Too lazy to bring it to my big grinder in the shop
00:05 LittleGreenFlame SOG All the way... Just sayin'
00:05 Yaotz I saw a gerber scout on amazon for $42
00:05 Yaotz I was really considering it
00:05 Yaotz If I wasn't moving soon I would have picked it up
00:05 Fulsy Wish I could go on down to grand rapids and be a member and stuff
00:05 TheSessionMan my pro scout cost me $65 on wholesale sports a few months ago
00:05 BigTank_ couldnt you interlace and overlay the two graphs instead of switching them?
00:05 Fulsy alas I'm a 15 year old
00:06 exor674 I totally want to visit zee lab one day
00:06 Yaotz I do have a gerber artifact at least
00:06 Yaotz That was nice
00:06 TheSessionMan i should pick up one of those. keep it in the sheeth
00:06 LittleGreenFlame Bye guys!  Off to play minecraft with a few buddies!
00:06 Yaotz The artifact? just put it on a keychain
00:06 Fulsy cya
00:07 BigTank_ nice! thanks
00:07 TheSessionMan i'd rather have it in my pro scout sheeth i think
00:07 Fulsy so what's the story behind the megaphone
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00:07 Yaotz I think they just had it out for the geiger counter
00:07 Yaotz Or something
00:07 Fulsy oh
00:08 Fulsy it made my ears sad
00:08 Yaotz I watched the shoot but I couldn't really hear it so
00:08 exor674 show cloes does it need to be?
00:08 exor674 ..
00:08 exor674 how close
00:09 Yaotz hmm
00:09 TheSessionMan I found an old oscilloscope in the back room in my highschool's physics room when I was working there for my teacher. He's worked there for 30 years and hasnt ever used it. It's around 40 years old
00:10 Fulsy awesome
00:10 Fulsy is it tube type?
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00:10 Cprossu cool
00:10 Yaotz Oh hey, wouldn't that be interesting
00:10 TheSessionMan have no idea. it was hidden on the top shelf in the back of the room. couldn't get a good look at it
00:10 Yaotz A equipment autopsy on a oscilloscope
00:10 Yaotz an*
00:11 Fulsy My dad used to have a HUGE tube ocilloscope
00:11 Yaotz Would go well with the oscilloscope series
00:11 LinuxH4x0r mine decided to crap out on me today
00:11 Fulsy it had one beast of a power transformer
00:11 Cprossu man so that's how you use a vecterscope
00:11 cctoide Did the people who left at 1800 leave for the day?
00:11 LinuxH4x0r acting up, probably not dead though
00:12 Cprossu right on
00:12 TheSessionMan nothing neat here on my farm but tractors and motorcycles. And enough tools to fill two mechanic shops
00:12 BigTank_ Hey Cap, you working on todays blog?
00:12 Fulsy In the garage, we have a tektronic ocilloscope much like the one they had on the ocilloscope videos
00:12 Yaotz hmm
00:12 Yaotz This vektoscope is so over my head
00:12 LinuxH4x0r BK precision 2120
00:12 Yaotz vecterscope
00:12 wannabe1987 wtf am i staring at on the live feed?
00:12 LinuxH4x0r that reminds me
00:13 Cprossu the vecterscope, he's syncing the cameras
00:13 LinuxH4x0r I have an hp logic analyzer under my bed
00:13 wannabe1987 o ok
00:13 Cprossu good stuff
00:13 LinuxH4x0r I might autopsy it if can't do anything cool with it
00:13 LinuxH4x0r no probes
00:13 Fulsy I want to plug the ocilloscope into the outputs of the hammond's tonewheel generator
00:13 Fulsy to check out the sine wave it gives out
00:14 Fulsy and maybe learn to modify the bass pedal divider board
00:14 TheSessionMan I've never had a chance to even play with an oscilloscope
00:14 wannabe1987 i don't know what one is...i'm lost (again)
00:14 TheSessionMan there are a few videos dedicated to them on the geek groups youtube
00:14 Yaotz My father was an electrician for Delphi for 25+ years and I've still never touched an ocilloscope
00:15 thegenius2k9 btw guys i found this online pretty fun and its called is here http
00:15 Hackbat I've gotten sooo use to HD video >_<
00:15 thegenius2k9
00:15 Hackbat Used
00:16 BigTank_ ok switch back to video
00:16 Yaotz hmm
00:16 Coderjoe did you know HDMI audio is allowed to be a half-second or so (forget the actual number) out of sync with the video?
00:17 Coderjoe wow
00:17 Coderjoe daark
00:17 Coderjoe need more lighting when properly calibrated, it seems
00:17 BigTank_ very dark
00:17 Cprossu the frame smoothing causes that I thought, Coderjoe
00:17 Yaotz Looks good
00:17 Fulsy reminds me of the CCTV system we had in my old middle school
00:17 Cprossu so it's not the audio that's delayed/etc it's the video
00:17 Fulsy that we would use to broadcast morning announcements
00:18 Coderjoe no, I mean in the HDMI spec. not having anything to do with processing the display is doing
00:18 Fulsy had similar control panels and the like
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00:18 exor674 nrh, why can I not find that like, I have no idea how long it is but it's probably 15ft? RCA Audio + svideo cable thing I wanted to donate
00:19 Yaotz Oh nice
00:19 TheSessionMan I have an old CIBC bank IBM computer from the 80's in my barn. It's about the size of a dishwasher. I don't know why it's here.
00:20 Fulsy lol
00:20 Fulsy yay, the set
00:20 exor674 but if I manage to find the cables, I'll totally send it your way if you want them in that length
00:21 Fulsy send the computer for an autopsy, lol
00:21 Coderjoe vectorscopes are really fun to look at with actual moving subjects
00:21 TheSessionMan it's covered in cat piss, unfurtunately
00:21 thegenius2k9 wipe it off :D
00:22 TheSessionMan the inside is as well
00:22 exor674 does that wall really say "caring" heh
00:22 Fulsy oh...
00:22 Captain_ Hey Steve, do you want an interesting little project?
00:22 Captain_ I know one you can work on. :)
00:22 Fulsy It used to be a YMCA
00:22 Fulsy Caring Respect Honesty Responsibility and all that other stuff
00:22 Captain_ Cory, get Steve's attention.
00:22 thegenius2k9 tell chris to wear gloves when taking it apart
00:23 TheSessionMan Man, if someone picked it up, I'd be happy to see an autopsy!
00:23 Captain_ I'm not dismantling a cat-piss project, no
00:23 Cprossu hey just out of curiosity, why does the camera on the trolley have a yellow tinge to it? is the wrong filter picked out on it?
00:23 tggnle1 Alright, go for it
00:23 Fulsy lmao
00:23 Captain_ Hey Steve :)
00:23 tgg yes
00:23 tgg steve here
00:24 Captain_ There are 2 LONG cables made up, probably sitting down on the set.
00:24 tgg ok
00:24 Captain_ They ahve BNC ends, it's a paired cable with one BNC and the other is an audio feed with no termination.
00:24 Captain_ They should be setup to feed from Red and Blue (ask Cory) to the Switcher.
00:24 Captain_ This way, people can pull live feeds from R and B cameras into the live feed when we're shooting real video
00:25 Captain_ No, we wouldn't feed direct from teh cameras
00:25 Captain_ We'd feed from teh Blocking Monitors :)
00:25 Captain_ That way, we don't have to fight cables.
00:25 Captain_ yes
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00:25 Captain_ They come along the E wall of the studio
00:25 TheSessionMan Where are you chris?
00:25 Captain_ Up and over the rail, NOT through the hole.
00:25 Hackbat GH4
00:25 TheSessionMan oh, okay.
00:26 Captain_ Straight up the thing like the others, but continue on up into the rafters, along over the console and down the back.
00:26 Captain_ k
00:26 Captain_ The cables are already made up, it's not hard to run them
00:26 Captain_ But get Cory to help you.
00:27 maglinvinn hey guys.
00:27 cctoide Is the unit with the 4 screens an actual switcher, or is it something else?
00:27 Fulsy Hello
00:27 MoxieMike hey dan
00:27 maglinvinn what did i miss
00:27 BigTank_ dan!
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00:27 TheSessionMan Thank you for setting up the IRC. Really appreciate it.
00:27 exor674 the current switcher is below it
00:27 Hackbat Hey Captain_, Will there be a "Geek store" selling nerd stuff like magnets and Arduinos once the Lab is at Full power?
00:27 Coderjoe the 4 screens is just a 4-screen preview set
00:27 maglinvinn hi tank.  do i know you
00:27 Captain_ The 4 screen thing is just monitors, the thing belopw it is a small switcher.
00:27 cctoide ah
00:27 Coderjoe the switcher, immediately below it is a 12-channel switcher
00:27 Cprossu can you pop it on the trolley camera for a second?
00:27 Captain_ Stop that, I'm having a seizure.
00:27 cctoide so if you used the GVG you wouldn't be using that one at all?
00:28 exor674 and the switcher they're trying to make work is yeah the GVG box
00:28 Captain_ We'd use the GVG for the live switcher, the little one for internal use.
00:28 BigTank_ no lol just watch the videos, i am sending you guys a wireless rf mic system with 2 mic packs if i can find it...
00:28 Coderjoe that one would still be usable for previews
00:28 cctoide ah ok
00:28 Coderjoe hi steve.
00:28 Captain_ ok, let's run those cables :)
00:28 Cprossu so why is it all yellow?
00:29 Cprossu filter?
00:29 Captain_ Could be an internal filter setting
00:29 Coderjoe sync/phase and possibly lighting
00:29 Captain_ WB is off probably
00:29 linus he sounds tired!
00:29 Cprossu it's a lot of tedious work, of course he is
00:29 Cprossu =)
00:29 Captain_ Cory get up there and swtich for him so people don't have to just watch a wall, lol
00:29 Hackbat Captain did you get that camera from a cat piss donation? seems awefully yellow
00:30 Yaotz Hey
00:30 Hackbat :p
00:30 Fulsy hah
00:30 cctoide at least he's calm, not blasting the scale on the bodenmeter ;p
00:30 Yaotz JeppersMedia is broadcasting Live on youtube
00:30 Yaotz what the hell
00:30 Yaotz JeepersMedia*
00:30 Fulsy that guy scares me
00:30 Yaotz We need to get TGG in on this
00:30 mman454 I have a gear that looks mysteriously similar hanging at the corner of my window...
00:30 Yaotz brb digging
00:30 Captain_ no
00:30 BigTank_ that sounded expencive
00:30 Cprossu probably not
00:31 Captain_ Someone clean the white board please.
00:31 NiFe yellowboard
00:31 linus maybe
00:31 Coderjoe oh. this is the little PTZ cam, isn't it
00:31 cctoide mood lighting
00:31 TheSessionMan WOW. I just blew my mind. I've been using the same drafting pencil for half a decade, and I just noticed you can sharpen the graphite with a hole in the end it!
00:31 Hackbat you need a fire pole :D enter the set HERO style
00:32 Fulsy now let's have a big round of applause for the Gear
00:32 MoxieMike or at least a spiral staircase
00:32 Yaotz
00:32 Yaotz interesting
00:32 cctoide that gear is...
00:32 cctoide hella metal.
00:33 TheSessionMan someone should hang a clock inside the cog to have some motion, like the digital clock in command.
00:33 mman454 Captain_ is your nick registered?
00:33 BigTank_ that gear is now a meme
00:33 Fulsy It's a thing
00:33 Captain_ Um, I think so?
00:33 cctoide just a cog in the machine
00:33 MoxieMike it's totally a thing
00:33 Captain_ But I log in from here AND from the lab so I dunno
00:33 mman454 /nickserv password?
00:33 Coderjoe you can link registered nicks
00:34 TheSessionMan left #thegeekgroup
00:34 Captain_ I'm pretty sure that if someone else tried to use it, you guys owuld notice pretty fast and ban his IP
00:35 mman454 I was asking because if you were registered that would stick with your nick.
00:35 BigTank_ I have been on here for damn near 2 hous... O.o
00:35 Hackbat WOOO Go wall!
00:35 exor674 stickybun!
00:35 BigTank_ *hours
00:35 Cprossu well at least your board got cleaned
00:35 Cprossu o_O
00:36 Captain_ guys.......wall shot......
00:36 Yaotz
00:36 Captain_ cory......
00:36 Coderjoe nobody is wtching irc
00:36 Hackbat I think everyone is downstairs
00:36 thaery Hey Captain is that board from before you quit smoking, it being so yellow and all :P
00:36 Hackbat lol
00:36 Captain_ TAke camera 2.......
00:36 Captain_ Thank you
00:36 BigTank_ captain sounds desperate
00:36 TheSessionMan joined #thegeekgroup
00:36 Fulsy ha
00:36 Yaotz "Right now, there isn't any way to apply for YouTube Live privileges."
00:36 BigTank_ yay
00:37 TheSessionMan how do I register my name on here?
00:37 Fulsy Was Ustream a pay thing?
00:37 Cprossu no
00:37 Fulsy oh
00:37 mman454 lets ask the magic eightball
00:37 mman454 The Purple 8 Ball says:  Ask again later
00:37 Fulsy "ask me later"
00:37 Fulsy lol
00:38 MoxieMike how do you register a nick, and how can you tell when it's registered?
00:38 Fulsy I bet you there's a flash eight ball somewhere
00:38 Fulsy there's a flash app for everything
00:38 Coderjoe MoxieMike: /nickserv help register
00:38 CSMonster
00:38 mman454 You missed!!!
00:38 compwiz878 joined #thegeekgroup
00:38 Coderjoe it would have told you when you connected if it was already regged
00:38 Yaotz MoxieMike:   /msg nickserv help
00:38 BigTank_ bad iea?
00:38 Captain_ LMFAO
00:38 BigTank_ idea?
00:38 Yaotz and /msg nickserv help register
00:39 BigTank_ they leave?
00:39 Fulsy so whats all your favorite moments in a TGG vid?
00:39 BigTank_ nvm
00:40 wannabe1987 if you're the only girl in a houseful of guys and you mention not wearing clothes...they'll all come to check it out...(btw, i was clothed...just in pjs)
00:40 Yaotz So anyway the short of that article is that for the foreseeable future it seems that youtube will just be giving out Live to "youtube partners" with "active uploading" accounts in "good standing"
00:40 Yaotz So maybe TGG can get lucky
00:40 MoxieMike cool, thanks guys
00:40 wannabe1987 ues
00:40 wannabe1987 yes*
00:40 BigTank_ My fave video is the "Christmas Story" about us made of stars. it's faved!
00:40 mman454 wannabe1987 If you do that we will assume you want us to.
00:40 Yaotz Man Cory get a haircut broski
00:40 Fulsy lol
00:41 Fulsy My favorite moment is in the telemarketer from the Day from Hell
00:41 wannabe1987 mman545 - i was tlaking to my boyfriend, and my housemates overheard
00:41 Captain_ I'm here
00:41 Captain_ Monitors where?
00:41 mman454 its mman454 not 545
00:41 Captain_ Up on the console?
00:41 wannabe1987 i sorry :(  numberically dyslexic
00:42 exor674 really interlacey
00:42 mman454 lol its ok
00:42 Hackbat My boyfriend says Cory is cooler than me. >_<
00:42 wannabe1987 sucks
00:42 Hackbat Stupid Dr. Who shirs
00:42 Hackbat *shirts
00:42 Captain_ Good job guys :)
00:42 wannabe1987 corey is still there?  damn...
00:42 wannabe1987 he must not have a job other than TGG
00:42 Captain_ Turn off the Monitors on the console so we don't get burn-in.
00:43 Captain_ and turn the scanner back pn
00:43 mman454 Captain_ will there be anything going on that I can help with in Kzoo around May 1st?
00:43 Captain_ Change to camera 2
00:44 Captain_ There's always something going on :)
00:44 Yaotz  man these are some hot cans
00:44 MoxieMike that makes a good job
00:44 mman454 Yes in GR but I'm referring to k-zoo
00:44 Captain_ Cory's getting a haircut soon. There will be video.
00:44 MoxieMike awesome
00:44 Yaotz Nice
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00:44 Captain_ No idea on Kzoo
00:44 BigTank_ yes
00:44 Captain_ Like hell there won't
00:45 thaery Crecut for Corey?
00:45 Coderjoe turn off the blocking monitors as well
00:45 mman454 there's going to be a video.
00:45 mman454 too loud
00:45 Captain_ That's WHY there will be video, you're hilarious when you're pissed.
00:45 thaery er... Crewcut
00:45 Hackbat video is skipping like hell
00:45 Cprossu just fine
00:45 MoxieMike I don't think you have much say in the matter Cory
00:45 Captain_ Bring it up a little.
00:45 Fulsy sounds alright
00:45 MagneticCow do it when he sleeps
00:45 MoxieMike scanner is fine
00:45 mman454 hackbat no its is not
00:45 Hackbat is it just me?
00:45 Captain_ Zoom out on camera
00:45 Hackbat ah
00:45 Captain_ Audio is good now.
00:45 Hackbat let me refresh the page
00:45 karmicthreat Aw man, did the feed go down?  I checked it before I left.
00:45 Yaotz Give cory a curlhawk
00:45 BigTank_ feed is fune
00:45 NiFe joined #thegeekgroup
00:45 BigTank_ fine
00:46 Captain_ Can you guys set a screensaver on the IRC computer to UTC and sync it online with the atomic clock?
00:46 cctoide don't hide behind that LG
00:46 Captain_ Use the windows scrolling text and set it to clock, set the clock to UTC.
00:46 karmicthreat Huh, when I searched for thegeekgroup on ustream it gave me nothing.  Had to search for geekgroup
00:46 Captain_ Steve is a Ham, he'll know what it is.
00:46 Cprossu I'm all for that
00:47 Captain_ That way people can compute their delay in the sync.
00:47 Coderjoe the ticking came back briefly
00:47 Captain_ The helicopter was an encoding problem, it's not there now. We removed that computer :)
00:47 Cprossu make sure he syncs it to atomic
00:47 mman454 Speaking of which how do I apply to test for my fcc certification?
00:47 Cprossu nice
00:47 Captain_ Windoes has a "Scrolling text" screensaver, use that
00:48 Captain_ It has a Clock setting that is based on the computer's clock.
00:48 Coderjoe no the helicopter... earlier today there was an intermittant .5Hz click
00:48 Captain_ Set the system time to UTC.
00:48 Hackbat I love Dr. Who I'm just too broke to buy shirts :p
00:48 Cprossu then sync to atomic
00:48 Coderjoe possibly when someone bumped cables
00:48 Cprossu you can set it to not tumble
00:48 Captain_ That'll work
00:48 Cprossu set rotation type to none
00:49 BigTank_ then put the camera on the computer monitor
00:49 cctoide how many of these boxy CRTs are there?
00:49 Captain_ Cory, tell him to set the clock to UTC.
00:49 BigTank_ AIM it at the monitor
00:49 Cprossu Atomic!
00:49 mman454 left #thegeekgroup
00:49 Cprossu and make sure he sets the screen saver to rotation type none
00:49 Fulsy Aren't one of those CRT's from the crane?
00:50 wannabe1987 is now known as wannabe1987-out_
00:50 Captain_ Then sync the clock to Atomic via internet
00:50 Yaotz I thought the crane CRT was all yellow
00:50 Yaotz and gnarly
00:50 Captain_ Then we point the camera at the screen :)
00:50 Cprossu cool
00:50 Fulsy and manky
00:50 Coderjoe windows has an NTP capability
00:50 cctoide heh, leave IRC up
00:51 MadManMarkAu INB4 ascii phalus
00:51 MoxieMike the scrolling text screensaver is called should still exist
00:51 Cprossu but then you'd get the delay x 2
00:51 Cprossu but you cannot set time in marquee
00:51 MoxieMike ah
00:51 Yaotz what
00:51 Yaotz 2am?
00:51 exor674 GMT :P
00:51 MadManMarkAu UTC, remember?
00:52 Cprossu it's off
00:52 Captain_ Set it to 24Hr
00:52 Cprossu by at least 2 minutes
00:52 Cprossu sure it's synced right?
00:52 Coderjoe the clock is also currently not synced
00:52 cctoide does it go off of regional settings?
00:52 Captain_ and SYNC IT TO INTERNET TIME
00:52 Captain_ It's off
00:52 Captain_ A lot
00:52 Fulsy I see McAFee
00:52 Cprossu make sure it doesn't fail
00:53 Cprossu regional settings
00:53 Cprossu in control panel
00:53 Cprossu for 24hour
00:53 exor674 24hr is in regional setings
00:53 cctoide US windows comes with 12 hour + am/pm by default :V
00:53 Cprossu HH:mm:ss
00:53 cctoide first tab
00:54 cctoide there's a text box for time formatting
00:54 Captain_ FIRST TAB
00:54 Cprossu HH
00:54 Captain_ This hurts to watch......
00:54 cctoide or a combo box
00:54 Captain_ Tell him HH
00:54 cctoide try "time" tab?
00:54 Cprossu capitol H H
00:54 Cprossu CAP H
00:54 Captain_ NO NO NO
00:54 Coderjoe restore the IRC window
00:55 Cprossu good
00:55 Captain_ PIck the one with Capital H's
00:55 Captain_ he can't TYPE it in
00:55 Captain_ You have to SELECT IT FROM THE LIST
00:55 Captain_ oh good god
00:55 Yaotz lol
00:55 compwiz878 lol captain
00:55 Fulsy lol
00:55 cctoide level up
00:55 Cprossu +XP
00:55 Coderjoe it was so steve could read the commands
00:56 Captain_ Did Cory shoot him?
00:56 Captain_ What was the bang?
00:56 Fulsy lmao
00:56 Captain_ Thank you Steve :)
00:56 Cprossu wrong one
00:56 Yaotz lolin
00:56 cctoide I hope this computer has the same quirk as mine which causes the screensaver to switch off at random :p
00:56 MagneticCow remote desktop ftw
00:56 beep left #thegeekgroup
00:57 Cprossu 5 second delay
00:57 Cprossu nice
00:57 cctoide the bouncing clock channel
00:57 Fulsy hypnotizing.....
00:57 Coderjoe i have a 29 second delay
00:57 cctoide it'd be nice if it bounced at 1 sec intervals
00:58 Yaotz i have a 7 second delay
00:58 Yaotz not bad
00:58 NiFe 3 seconds here
00:58 cctoide 5 seconds maybe
00:58 compwiz878 no fulsy they need to turn the star field screen saver on lol
00:58 Fulsy about 29 here too
00:58 Cprossu funny I am in arizona and have a 5 second delay
00:58 Coderjoe just restarted the stream and have a 30 second delay. my clock may be slightly off sync...
00:58 Fulsy LOL Star field
00:58 * Coderjoe checks
00:58 cctoide flying toasters
00:58 Yaotz Pffbt
00:58 Fulsy How about that old 3d maze screensaver from way back when?
00:58 exor674 4sec
00:58 compwiz878 lmao @ toasters
00:58 Yaotz 3D maze > Star Field
00:58 cctoide 3D Pipes
00:58 Fulsy the one that would turn upside down?
00:58 Cprossu make sure your clock is synced before comparing rofl
00:59 Fulsy watched that for hours
00:59 Yaotz Way back when?
00:59 CSMonster 8sec in PacNW.  and 3D Pipes FTW
00:59 Yaotz Dude 3D maze was still on windows 98
00:59 Fulsy oh yea 3d pipes
00:59 Yaotz that wasn't that long ago
00:59 Coderjoe now 5 second. my clock was off a little
00:59 compwiz878 oh yeh the old skewl 3d maze the looked like wolfenstien lol
00:59 cctoide I still think IRC TTS is a good idea :P
00:59 Coderjoe cctoide: not really. I've experienced that.
01:00 Yaotz what am i hearing
01:00 Fulsy I wish I knew
01:00 Cprossu so Captain_, what's your delay?
01:00 Captain_ I want that as a recording "LOTS OF HANDS MAKE LIGHT WORK!" in that voice, lol
01:00 Coderjoe that's a ham radio repeater
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01:00 Captain_ I'm at 5sec
01:00 compwiz878 its an amture radio repeater by the sounds of it
01:00 cctoide activity's going to taper off fast once they take off
01:00 cctoide so it wouldn't be getting spammed
01:00 Captain_ ok guys, I'm going to go chill a bit
01:00 Cprossu all in all I am happy with the delay
01:00 Fulsy alright
01:00 compwiz878 either 2 meter band or 440 band
01:00 Fulsy ttake it easy
01:01 Cprossu my livestream's off by 1 minute
01:01 cctoide contact GG departure on 125.7?
01:01 Coderjoe w8dc. yep
01:01 Coderjoe that's ham
01:01 Cprossu I may switch my rad detectors to ustream rofl
01:01 CSMonster bye capt'n
01:01 Coderjoe iirc, that is WMPORN
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01:01 Fulsy I'm gonna head off to minecraft
01:01 Fulsy cya
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01:01 BigTank_ im in seattle and i show 36sec from utc
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01:02 tggnle1 Minecraft :D
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01:02 tggnle1 I still need to work on the TGG minecraft server!
01:02 qwertyboy2 i have cake!
01:03 compwiz878 wheres the ice cream
01:03 compwiz878 lol
01:03 Yaotz I just ordered some icecream from vons
01:03 qwertyboy2 in the freezer
01:03 Yaotz wont be here until tomorrow
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01:03 CSMonster i have eyescream, but it does not belong to me. :(  exercise in self-control
01:03 MoxieMike if there's a tgg minecraft server, i might try it out
01:04 compwiz878 lol csmonster
01:04 Yaotz Icecream is a community thing
01:04 Yaotz for sure
01:04 compwiz878 ima go get my icream outa the freezer
01:04 compwiz878 lol
01:05 qwertyboy2 what exactly does one do in minecraft? ive heard a ton about it, but never actually played it. i know deadmau5 has his own server
01:05 CSMonster so what's on after Bouncing Clock Show?
01:05 Yaotz Cooking with Yaotz
01:05 CSMonster sweet.
01:06 qwertyboy2 bake some cake!
01:06 cctoide I think Bouncing Clock might not get the best ratings after the day show
01:06 Coderjoe it's a piece of cake...
01:06 Yaotz No
01:06 Yaotz Don't you even
01:06 qwertyboy2 no
01:06 qwertyboy2 bad
01:06 CSMonster idk it's better than watching lifetime
01:07 karmicthreat After that show is 3.1415 Physicists.
01:07 Yaotz Tonight actually I'm making beef curry with sweet rice
01:07 Yaotz speaking of I need to order more coconut milk
01:07 Yaotz just remembered
01:07 qwertyboy2 never had coconut milk
01:07 Yaotz coconut milk is not something you drink
01:07 Yaotz well I mean, you could
01:07 Yaotz but coconuts are terrible
01:08 Yaotz I just use it for curry sauces
01:08 qwertyboy2 ok
01:08 CSMonster coconut milk straight is kinda gross
01:08 Yaotz I mean if you like coconut milk and pineapple juice with rum
01:08 Hackbat I lost my arduino
01:08 qwertyboy2 i have no idea what we are talking about, but its entertaining
01:08 Yaotz not my thing
01:08 qwertyboy2 i just ordered one
01:08 Hackbat oh nvm, under my exam
01:08 Hackbat >_<
01:08 CSMonster we are talking about pinacoladas
01:09 qwertyboy2 -_-
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01:09 Hackbat qwertyboy2, DIP or SMD?
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01:09 qwertyboy2 Hackbat_ DIP
01:09 Coderjoe N8JSN... I know that guy
01:10 * CSMonster raises hand to ask a stupid question
01:10 Hackbat where'd you get ti?
01:10 qwertyboy2 from the maker shed
01:10 Hackbat ah
01:10 Hackbat I get my stuff from sparkfun
01:10 Hackbat they've been out of the DIP
01:10 Hackbat and the SMD
01:10 qwertyboy2 i got the starter kit
01:11 CSMonster what's the nickname character/length limit?
01:11 Hackbat Ah
01:11 qwertyboy2 not sure
01:11 Coderjoe NICKLEN=16 CHANNELLEN=50 TOPICLEN=390
01:11 CSMonster is now known as CaspianSeaMonste
01:11 CaspianSeaMonste that answers that
01:11 Coderjoe it is part of the stuff you get when you connect
01:12 CaspianSeaMonste <nick CSMonster
01:12 CaspianSeaMonste is now known as CSMonster
01:12 Coderjoe CaspianCMonster
01:12 CSMonster lol
01:12 qwertyboy2 is now known as qwertyboy
01:12 Hackbat sooooo Who wants to help me finish my Electronics Exam?
01:12 qwertyboy fdjh
01:12 Hackbat I've gone lazy
01:12 qwertyboy is now known as Guest14253
01:13 Hackbat FINE! run away coward
01:13 Hackbat D:<
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01:13 qwertyboy3 arg!
01:13 cctoide Man, you know, if anyone does ever make a GG video remix
01:13 cctoide there'll be great footage from today
01:13 cctoide of chris scratching those geiger counters
01:14 qwertyboy3 i missed a bunch of what happened
01:14 CSMonster ^ i am upset i missed this
01:14 qwertyboy3 dumb school...
01:15 qwertyboy3 ackward scilence
01:15 CSMonster ackward?
01:15 qwertyboy3 yep :)
01:15 CSMonster okthen
01:16 CSMonster i hear people at the lab.  but nothing is happening.
01:16 * CSMonster is upset
01:16 qwertyboy3 car:;feature=feedu
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01:18 CSMonster what time is it in Michigan anyway?
01:18 cctoide 2118
01:18 cctoide
01:19 qwertyboy3 9:18
01:19 CSMonster wow.  i figured it'd be central not eastern
01:19 qwertyboy3 nope, eastern
01:19 * CSMonster knows nothing about anything east of the Rockies
01:20 qwertyboy3 *
01:20 CSMonster so uncultured.
01:20 qwertyboy3 *qwertyboy3 knows nothing about european time zones
01:20 CSMonster europe?  what's that?
01:21 qwertyboy3 ...
01:21 CSMonster :D
01:21 qwertyboy3 XD
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01:22 CSMonster they're dropping like flies.
01:22 qwertyboy3 yep
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01:26 MoxieMike i'm still here
01:26 qwertyboy3 as am i
01:26 tggnle1 As am I!
01:26 CSMonster the three musketeers
01:27 qwertyboy3 4
01:27 CSMonster i make no such claims as to myself
01:27 MoxieMike yay, i'm a muskateer
01:27 qwertyboy3 im busy working on line rider
01:27 maglin_away yar
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01:27 CSMonster i've personally moved beyond muzzleloaders.
01:27 MoxieMike the important decision...musket or rapier
01:27 maglinvinn what have i missed
01:28 qwertyboy3 not much i dont think
01:28 CSMonster the beginning of the Bouncing Clock Show
01:28 qwertyboy3 as far as i know
01:28 CSMonster not much has happened yet though.
01:28 qwertyboy3 MoxieMike_ i prefer gatling gun
01:29 CSMonster that lacks mobility
01:29 qwertyboy3 not when mounted on a truck
01:29 CSMonster or helicopter
01:30 CSMonster but i'm not that fortunate.  dunno about you
01:30 qwertyboy3 or submarine... wait
01:30 MoxieMike gatling was an interesting guy
01:30 CSMonster LOL
01:30 CSMonster anti-war protester of the 1860s
01:30 MoxieMike i've been thinking of making my own using internet plans
01:31 CSMonster trying to dissuade people from fighting by building.... better weapons... wait
01:31 MoxieMike i'd make it in 3d first then progress to machining it
01:31 qwertyboy3  XD
01:31 CSMonster brass-cartridge or separated chambers?
01:31 MoxieMike i'm just not sure if i'd try to keep historically accurate with the materials
01:32 MoxieMike it would shoot 22LR
01:32 CSMonster i wouldn't.  that's a LOT of bronze.
01:32 qwertyboy3 potatoes would be good ammunition
01:32 CSMonster ah.  little baby gatling
01:32 MoxieMike using barrels from the Ruger 10-22
01:32 MoxieMike yes
01:32 CSMonster green mountain makes an octagonal barrel for the 77/22, you should use that
01:32 CSMonster it would look more appropriate
01:33 MoxieMike so, each barrel has a bolt operated by the rotation
01:33 qwertyboy3 i dont know much about guns
01:33 CSMonster yep
01:33 CSMonster you should learn.  they are fun
01:33 MoxieMike if i keep with the historic look, that's a great idea
01:33 qwertyboy3 does my potatoe gun count?
01:33 CSMonster lol
01:33 qwertyboy3 *potato
01:33 Cprossu well that worked out well
01:34 MoxieMike but there are some neat anodized barrels that would look good making it look more modern/futuristic
01:34 CSMonster well it does use an explosive chemical propellant to launch a projectile
01:34 MoxieMike what would you like to learn about guns?
01:34 CSMonster so: firearm?  yes.  weapon?  not so much.  although they do hurt like hell when loaded with paintballs
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01:34 Cprossu hrmm weird, it's only 3 seconds off for me now. Well good deal
01:35 MoxieMike the primary difference between the potato cannon and a firearm, is the fuel
01:35 qwertyboy3 hairspray vs. black powder
01:35 CSMonster GMB also has ribbed thompson-style 10/22 barrels, those would look cool
01:35 MoxieMike in a potato cannon, the fuel requires oxygen also found in the combustion chamber
01:35 CSMonster not black powder.  except in very old guns.  we use nitro powder now
01:36 qwertyboy3 i see
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01:36 qwertyboy3 more energetic?
01:36 MoxieMike in a firearm and blackpowder gun, the fuel (gunpowder) is self oxidizing
01:36 CSMonster nitro powder burns slower but produces higher peak pressures and puts out WAY less smoke; doesn't gum up automatics
01:36 MoxieMike it has the oxygen and the fuel all together and just needs to get the reaction started
01:36 CSMonster thus why they normally call it "smokeless powder"
01:37 MoxieMike correct
01:37 qwertyboy3 gotcha
01:37 Seroster Jesus fucking christ. People actually PAY for tarot readings, more than for the lulz?
01:37 CSMonster LOL
01:37 CSMonster yes
01:37 MoxieMike but the smokeless powder burns much faster when under pressure...blackpowder burns at the same rate no matter what, iirc
01:37 qwertyboy3 lulz
01:37 masterofmonks Seroster: see Rumpology
01:37 CSMonster mike:
01:38 Seroster I need bigger lungs to sigh hard enough to voice my dislike for that kind of bs
01:38 CSMonster lol
01:38 qwertyboy3 dont tell chris about that
01:38 masterofmonks
01:38 Seroster ...Are there some kind of (in)breed of humans that are just imune to knowledge?
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01:38 CSMonster yes
01:38 CSMonster i'm related to many of them
01:38 Seroster Chris believes in tarot and astrology n stuff?
01:38 CSMonster D:
01:38 masterofmonks And yes, that is Sylvester Stallone's mother.
01:38 MoxieMike those barrels are hot
01:39 CSMonster aren't they?
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01:39 qwertyboy3 no, he thinks its total bs (i hope)
01:39 Seroster I sure as fuck hope that too, or else I'll get to the states and beat some sense into his head
01:39 CSMonster they don't make them for the 10/22 specifically but you can use a 77/22 barrel if you cut a new extractor slot in it for the 10/22 bolt; that would make a cool looking auto
01:39 MoxieMike these are like the ones i saw in a shop
01:39 CSMonster LOL
01:40 CSMonster ah, yeah i've seen those.
01:41 MoxieMike the design i found doesn't use 10-22 bolts, i don't think
01:41 Seroster Or, ask what the sum will be, get the reading, roll five dice, and every time he gets it right he gets a kiss from a hot girl, and every time he gets it wrong we'll zap his ballsack with an NST. Great test.
01:41 MoxieMike so it could be a slight mod to the barrel or to the bolts
01:41 CSMonster LOL
01:41 Seroster IF he succeeds he can procreate with the woman (if he undoes his vasectoy) and if he doesnt his balls will be fryed, preventing crappy genes.
01:41 CSMonster what on the baby gatling?
01:42 MoxieMike and suddenly two conversationd intersect and mass confusion happens
01:42 CSMonster LOL
01:42 MoxieMike conversations*'
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01:42 CSMonster two totally different kinds of guns
01:43 Seroster I want to call the psychic hotlines and talk to them for a while... But I doubt they would change their (inadequate) minds, and I don't want to spend 3 bucks a minute to talk to some stupid yuppie
01:43 TMB Hiya everybody... I've arrived home safe
01:43 CSMonster HI
01:43 qwertyboy3 great to hear!
01:44 MoxieMike glad to hear
01:44 Seroster Three bucks a fuckin minute! 8 hour work day. That sums up to 1440 bucks a day, 28.8 grand a month.    On further thought I think I'll be a phone medium.
01:44 CSMonster we're talking about tarot and gatling guns and zapping men in the ballsack with tasers.  aren't you glad you're here?
01:45 Seroster I mean.. You can get a ferarri for 25.
01:45 Seroster Not with tazers. NSTs
01:45 TMB sounds like a good gig... but I don't think I could do that without breaking out laughing all the time.
01:45 CSMonster lol you should be TGG's resident medium
01:45 cctoide TMB: I'm curious, was there any progress on the Space Program on the code front since the last video?
01:45 Seroster   jeeeeeeesus.....
01:46 qwertyboy3 what ferrari can you get for 25 grand?
01:46 MoxieMike a lambo jalpa should be going for around that much
01:46 CSMonster that is totally not in english.
01:46 Seroster The first thing on her pages "should I believe this" is "I don't feel that I have to prove anything"   - THEN YOU JUST LOST! Burdon of proof, motherfucker!
01:46 CSMonster lol
01:47 MoxieMike Seroster...tell us how you really feel
01:47 Seroster FUCK! ASS!
01:47 Seroster That kind of sums it up.
01:47 qwertyboy3 MoxieMike_ i would rather have a Murcielago LP670
01:47 MoxieMike sounds about right
01:48 MoxieMike but are they going for $25k?
01:48 cctoide is Taraza the swedish version of Theresa?
01:48 Seroster Lying to people that are in a mentally fragile state and then taking their money... That's like... Crap. I'm at a loss of words
01:48 qwertyboy3 try 400K
01:48 TMB hmmm.... those vehicles aren't my style... I want an H1 :)
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01:48 qwertyboy3 H1? wo makes (or made) that?
01:48 Seroster MoxieMike,
01:49 exor674 Seroster: being a total and utter moneygrubbing asshole?
01:49 TMB Hummer :)
01:49 CSMonster charlatanism?  exploitation?  cruelty?
01:49 MoxieMike the H1 is the original hummer
01:49 Seroster exor674, Worse....
01:49 TMB correct.
01:49 qwertyboy3 oh! i had a brain fart there for a second
01:49 Seroster It's like taking candy from a blind orphan child, and then pissing in the tea he got for christmas.
01:49 MoxieMike seroster, that's swedish fish, but ferrari F1 cars
01:50 CSMonster forget the H1 i want a Gamma Goat
01:50 Seroster AND beating the shit out of him while you rape his sister.
01:50 CSMonster daaan seroster
01:50 CSMonster *daaang
01:50 Seroster MoxieMike, I've gotten a new ferarri every birthday since I was 5 =)
01:50 CSMonster hotwheels?
01:50 qwertyboy3 do you have the 458?
01:50 Seroster No, cheaper tha nhotwheels.
01:51 Seroster Here in sweden you can get candy ferarris
01:51 CSMonster lol
01:51 qwertyboy3 hahaha
01:51 CSMonster lol nice
01:51 Seroster
01:51 CSMonster those look hot
01:51 CSMonster like hot cinnamon candy
01:52 qwertyboy3 can you get swedish fish?
01:52 Seroster Err
01:52 Seroster They are just sweet.
01:52 Seroster qwertyboy3, yes...
01:52 qwertyboy3 tehe
01:53 Seroster CSMonster, the ferraris are kind of chewy, pretty sweet and taste a bit of raspberries.
01:53 CSMonster ah
01:53 Seroster qwertyboy3, I can get swedish fish at the store down the street
01:53 Coderjoe anyone have the url to the images cory posted last night of the mixer and the switcher? they don't appear to be in my history
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01:53 qwertyboy3 Seroster_ i can get them at school
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01:54 qwertyboy3 i is bored
01:54 CSMonster ...what is so special about Swedish fish?
01:55 TMB ummmm.... their yummy???
01:55 qwertyboy3 he lives in sweden
01:55 Cprossu I like them too
01:55 Cprossu one time I ate 3lbs of them
01:55 TMB <---------------likes Swedish fish.
01:55 CSMonster yes i gathered that already
01:55 Cprossu I was sick for 2 days but I still like them
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01:55 TMB <---------- doesn't like them as much as Cprossu :)
01:55 CSMonster i'm just wondering what makes them better than Norwegian or Alaskan fish.
01:56 Cprossu They are in more stores than either of those
01:56 Cprossu you can't go to the store and get candy alaskan fish
01:56 qwertyboy3 yeah. they taste better, too
01:56 CSMonster candy fish.
01:56 CSMonster fish that is candy?
01:56 CSMonster and is from sweden
01:56 Coderjoe Cprossu: would you happen to have the image links cory posted last night?
01:57 CSMonster i'll stick with goldfish crackers.
01:57 qwertyboy3 cheez-its
01:57 Seroster Are swedish fish hard to find in the us?
01:57 Cprossu
01:57 qwertyboy3 not at all
01:57 CSMonster i've never seen or heard of them
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01:57 CSMonster but i'm on the west coast sooo
01:57 Seroster I doubt there is ANY store selling any kind of food in sweden that doesn't sell them.
01:58 qwertyboy3 that could have something to do with it
01:58 CSMonster it could.
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01:59 mman454 Oh yay TMB is on!
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01:59 MoxieMike maybe
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02:00 Seroster Since I am in sweden 7 hours ahead of most of you I think it's time to hit the hay
02:00 CSMonster 90% of what i know about Scandinavia comes from reading this comic:
02:00 TMB Night Seroster!!
02:00 Seroster Lol
02:00 CSMonster night man
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02:01 steve_____ hang on for links
02:01 Seroster Well, CSMonster, that is actually pretty accurate.
02:01 steve_____
02:01 CSMonster lol yeah so i've been told
02:01 steve_____
02:01 CSMonster written by a girl in denmark
02:01 mman454 I  recently had a new radio head unit put in professionally. Since then  the lights on my climate controls don't always work very well. Some are  lit, some are not. I brought the car back to them and they reseated a  loose harness for me. However its started to work intermittently again.  Is there anything I can do to the connector to make sure it stays seated  completely?                           mman454       1 day ago
02:02 mman454 oops, shit I meant to split that up
02:02 qwertyboy3 glue it?
02:02 CSMonster jbweld
02:02 CSMonster and duct tape.
02:02 Seroster DUCT TAPE!
02:02 mman454 TMB I have a question for you
02:02 Seroster BWAHAHAH!
02:03 qwertyboy3 it'll never come undone with jbweld and duct tape
02:03 TMB usually automotive connectors have some form of integral latch
02:03 Seroster Btw, I just got the 16th nine volt battery for my battery stack. Now it produces 102 volts.
02:03 mman454 But is this guys diagnosis correct, that is assuming the latch is fine?
02:03 CSMonster usually those integral catches are plastic of marginal quality and they suck and break after being operated too many times
02:04 qwertyboy3 get a couple more and hook a microwave to it!
02:04 mman454 Its only been operated twice at most.
02:04 CSMonster or that's just something Chevy does to piss me off
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02:04 qwertyboy3 aww... he left
02:04 CSMonster yes, he needed teh sleep
02:05 qwertyboy3 sleep? wats tat?
02:05 CSMonster good question
02:05 CSMonster brb
02:05 qwertyboy3 isnt that what mountain dew gets rid of?
02:08 maglinvinn TMB you on still
02:09 TMB that, or 5 hour energy (used one on the ride home)
02:11 MoxieMike damn, you take your caffiene seriously
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02:16 Captain_ You know what would be awesome?
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02:17 Captain_ If we had a way to Tivo the day's live video while people were there, and rebroadcast it after we were done, so people could see it if they missed it.
02:17 Captain_ I'm sure we could do this with one of the capture computers. Just record from 12-8pm and then output it to the switcher.
02:17 Captain_ This could be cool.
02:17 qwertyboy3 i was just going to say something like that
02:18 CSMonster that would be sweet
02:18 CSMonster and i finally got my eyescream
02:18 exor674 and if you run out of live content for any reason (why would you?), run your old prerecorded videos?
02:19 qwertyboy3 CSMonster_ good for you. you get a cookie
02:19 CSMonster SWEET what kind
02:19 CSMonster i like snickerdoodles
02:19 MagneticCow i think u shoudl still attach a nerf gun to the memeber cam
02:19 qwertyboy3 you can have a snickerdoodle
02:20 qwertyboy3 the nerf gun would be fun
02:20 Captain_ We're already working on running the Youtube videos on here as well. My goal is to just have SOMETHING showing all the time, even when noone is there doing something.
02:20 CSMonster wha'd i miss?
02:20 qwertyboy3 the YT videos on Ustream?
02:20 CSMonster doesn't the bouncing clock show = "something"?
02:21 cctoide UStream lets you record clips from the stream
02:21 cctoide There should be an option to cycle through these clips during downtime
02:21 cctoide Though that requires taking the stream offline
02:21 Cprossu hrmm
02:23 qwertyboy3 im sure there's a limit for recording time on that
02:23 Cprossu I think anycam will let you take a local recording of it
02:23 Captain_ how long of a clip can I record on ustream?
02:23 Cprossu but I haven't messed with it yet
02:23 Cprossu and I hate the fact that it installs toolbar even though you tell it not to
02:23 Cprossu (jerks)
02:23 cctoide Not sure
02:23 CSMonster there should be legislation against included toolbars.
02:23 cctoide alternately, if there's a spare PC that can play video and a spare video input, you could plug it into the broadcast chain and add a bunch of videos in a playlist set to repeat
02:23 qwertyboy3 it looks like ustream will let you do 3 hour chunks
02:23 cctoide that way the stream is "live" 24/7
02:23 Cprossu hrmm "Note: while Ustream allows unlimited recording, the broadcast console will ask you to save your video after three hours of continuous recording."
02:24 Cprossu so 3 hour chunks
02:24 qwertyboy3 agreed
02:25 cctoide with the second approach you could use something like VLC that can do a simple text overlay to make it clear it's recorded footage
02:25 Cprossu the other option is you guys have the current haugeppage card
02:25 cctoide or ffdshow or something, I'm not up to date on video apps
02:25 Cprossu you could use it to record and upload
02:25 Cprossu once you get the nice card back in a computer
02:25 Cprossu and running right
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02:25 Cprossu use linux and it's a simple shell script to chunk the videos and upload them somewhere
02:26 Cprossu Captain_: you still around?
02:26 Captain_ yes, in and out, I'm editing
02:26 Cprossu such is the life!
02:27 Coderjoe you would have to pass that back into the analog domain to get it up on ustream, as currently you have to use flash's webcam support or flash media encoder
02:28 Coderjoe (the stuff cctoide was saying)
02:28 Captain_ I'd do this with a seperate computer with a capture card, record it live from the switcher, then output it back INTO the switcher for our off hours.
02:28 Captain_ This is a forum thread waiting to happen.
02:28 Captain_ ok guys, off to edit
02:28 BatSteve-Away is now known as BatSteve
02:28 BatSteve cheers
02:28 BotSteve BatSteve: At 12 Apr 21:05Z, mikemol asked me to tell you that I, BotSteve, need to query URIs and come back with page titles. (and possibly the result of the 'file' command if it's not HTML :P )
02:28 BatSteve haha I missed CB by 7 seconds
02:29 qwertyboy3 such is the nature of the interwebs
02:29 BatSteve meh
02:29 BatSteve No big deal
02:29 cctoide Coderjoe: yeah, with my approach it'd just be running video from the computer into the switcher
02:30 cctoide We invented a new unit today
02:30 exor674 did someone ever get a good high-res image of the GVG panel?
02:30 Coderjoe and not using the crappy NTSC output on a video card
02:30 qwertyboy3 what unit?
02:30 thebatman What did u need from the GVG panel?
02:30 tesla4d BotSteve
02:30 tesla4d Dang
02:30 exor674 I think I saw someone a few days ago take a pic of the front with the camera?
02:30 BatSteve tesla4d: he needs a command
02:31 Coderjoe exor674: yes, cory took a picture and put it on imgur last night. I cannot seem to find the link anymore
02:31 tesla4d I know, but this channel was highlighted, and the highlight's been pushed off my scrollback
02:32 tesla4d I hoped maybe whoever it was left a message with BotSteve.
02:32 BatSteve ah
02:32 thebatman Exor674: do u need something specific from the GVG panel
02:32 Coderjoe check the logging bot (see the topic)
02:32 wannabe1987-out_ so theres noone there now?
02:32 qwertyboy3 either of these it?
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02:32 tesla4d Batman?
02:32 thebatman Yes this is he
02:33 Coderjoe yes. the first one has the GVG mixer control panel.
02:33 tesla4d Cool. I've been wanting to meet one of the Harwoods.
02:33 Coderjoe the second is the tideotek swither unit
02:33 tesla4d And here's where I go... Batman is one of the Harwoods, right?
02:33 Coderjoe but those are the two pics cory took last night
02:33 thebatman yup
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02:34 exor674 thnak you, that's what I was looking for ( sorry for the delay, dinner beeped )
02:34 DavidJKuhr hello all
02:34 BatSteve hey DavidJKuhr
02:34 CSMonster hi
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02:34 qwertyboy3 hello DavidJKuhr_
02:35 wannabe1987 so
02:35 Cprossu finding manuals or even a model number for that gvg has been a pain in the butt
02:35 wannabe1987 why do i hear things but not see anything?
02:35 DavidJKuhr I am trying to find cables to send off to the HQ
02:35 wannabe1987 thats annoying...
02:35 wannabe1987 thanks david for the cables!  :P
02:35 DavidJKuhr probably the scanner
02:35 Cprossu I might be able to figure it out if I was onsite, with the equipment in hand and partially taken apart
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02:35 CSMonster it's the kidwell.  he never left.
02:35 wannabe1987 scary
02:36 DavidJKuhr i have not sent them yet but I plan to once I fugure out what I don't need but they could
02:36 Cprossu my feeling is that there's a sticker that was removed or placed in an unfortunate spot that has the model
02:36 thebatman Yeah i did inventory on that thing and it had no sign of stickers anywhere on that GVG panel
02:37 Cprossu it would be on the mainframe rack box
02:37 Cprossu from everything I've seen
02:37 CSMonster look inside the housing?
02:37 thebatman Wasn't a specific one there either
02:37 thebatman i didn
02:37 Cprossu I had them look in the flap
02:37 wannabe1987 thebatman?  do i know you?
02:37 * CSMonster is only half paying attention
02:37 wannabe1987 like IRL
02:37 thebatman i was sitting in front of it earlier at master control but this is my first time on it chatting
02:38 wannabe1987 o so you're batman from zomb/studio
02:38 wannabe1987 i def know you then :D
02:38 thebatman indded
02:38 thebatman well do i know u?
02:38 DavidJKuhr IRC is nice when other things don't work or you have limited connectivity
02:38 wannabe1987 i'm kelly.  :D
02:38 Cprossu thebatman: the sticker if it's left
02:38 mikemol BatSteve: Page titles are genuinely useful. Running 'file' to search for magic numbers is just candy. :)
02:38 Cprossu
02:39 Cprossu would look something like this one
02:39 wannabe1987 candy?
02:39 mikemol Unnecessary features which taste good. :)
02:39 CSMonster lol
02:39 wannabe1987 i like candy
02:39 CSMonster swedish fish?
02:39 qwertyboy3 candy is good
02:40 wannabe1987 altho, at zomb candy = darts/ they don't taste good :(
02:40 Cprossu I swear though that sticker looks like it would come off if a breeze passed by
02:40 qwertyboy3 CSMonster_ YES!
02:40 thebatman yeah probabaly right aobut that sticker
02:40 wannabe1987 i still have a piece of the punisher's candy...
02:40 DavidJKuhr any particular lengths of RCA you need the most?
02:40 CSMonster 6' yes?
02:40 Cprossu someone mentioned a serial number but we never got to it
02:40 Cprossu worst case scenario wouldn't it be possible to call up GVG with the serial and ask wtf it is?
02:41 BatSteve mikemol: while your statement may be factually true, I'm not entirely sure what we're talking about
02:41 thebatman if i had my inventory sheet with me i could check for a serial number
02:41 wannabe1987 winn
02:41 wannabe1987 you left it at the lab?
02:42 wannabe1987 i'd break in and steal it but i'm not stupid :P
02:42 qwertyboy3 why would he need it at home?
02:42 thebatman i have to fill in prices on it
02:42 qwertyboy3 ahh
02:42 Cprossu actually the question prudent here is why isn't there a digital copy yet? xD
02:43 thebatman well there is but it is on my tablet and i left that on master control because i got sidetracked
02:43 steve_____ I have sent an image to GVG, I first sent the link and it was blocked, so they will hopefully respond back again tomarrow
02:44 steve_____ as for serial I have looked all over that think I only can find card and modual #s
02:45 Cprossu I tried looking up some of those cards
02:45 Cprossu without luck
02:45 steve_____ ya, I doubted you would get anywhare with that
02:45 steve_____ but people got a brief lession in video sync
02:46 Cprossu was very nice
02:46 wannabe1987
02:46 Cprossu that vectorscope kicks ass too
02:46 steve_____ thanks, sorry it was rather scatered
02:46 Captain_ Once NAB/NAM is over I'm going to work on getting us more gear, I expect we'll have a proper switcher soon. Let's get the major gear working right now, and sort out the switcher later. I'd hate to see you guys put all this work into it only for me to pull it and replae it with something FAR better in 2 weeks.
02:46 thebatman we need to work on ur being on camera skills tho steve
02:46 Cprossu the one I got to use was really old, shitty and incapable of...working
02:46 steve_____ ya I know
02:47 steve_____ I'm a quiet person
02:47 thebatman But captain that switcher is so cool!
02:47 steve_____ a newer one will be even cooler
02:47 thebatman true
02:47 Captain_ You only think that because you haven't seen the big ones I'm working on ;)
02:47 Coderjoe especially a newer one that can do HD
02:47 thebatman o_O
02:47 Coderjoe ooh
02:47 steve_____ I can imagine, I saw wood tv's about 5 years ago that thing was huge
02:48 Coderjoe big vision mixers are sexy
02:48 steve_____ it has 3 or 4 FX buses and probbaly 30+ inputs
02:48 thebatman actually wood tv's might be the one captain is talking about
02:48 steve_____ it could be :)
02:48 thebatman heres to hoping :D
02:48 Captain_ The big thing I would like to solve for now is recording/rebroadcasting on a dedicated server, and working on getting remote camera plug-in stations for other areas. Like a BNC panel with a Video and an Audio (and perhaps an intercom?) feed in the Cafe, or HVL, or MDH, etc
02:49 Coderjoe ooh
02:49 Coderjoe so you need a routing system, too
02:49 steve_____ that sounds like a good idea, can we get way with baluns and cat5?
02:49 steve_____ there is some routing gear there
02:49 thebatman actually there is a BNC/XLR panel that is in the stock pile
02:50 Cprossu what can I say though, it's difficult to track down things on the internet when there were probably <5K ever made and not many of them landed in hands without service contracts
02:50 steve_____ very true
02:50 steve_____ is Kidwell still round on IRC?
02:51 thebatman Doudt that kidwell is on
02:51 steve_____ ok
02:51 CSMonster it's not nice to call the kidwell round.
02:51 thebatman lol
02:51 Captain_ I'm thinking we just do this with Coax, we have plenty of it.
02:51 steve_____ *around
02:51 steve_____ coax will wotk too
02:52 steve_____ what are the goal for other loation video
02:52 steve_____ full synced or run thorugh a TBC in master?
02:52 thebatman when we want to do instructional videos in the lab
02:52 Captain_ I want to be able to setup cameras in places other than the studio.
02:52 Captain_ HVL, MDH, Cafe, and then expand to other places.
02:52 steve_____ and audio I assume
02:52 Captain_ I want the WHOLE LAB to be a studio,t hat's the idea.
02:52 Cprossu hrmmmm
02:52 wannabe1987 yay!!!!
02:53 Captain_ We need live video and audio from everywhere into Master Control.
02:53 steve_____ life a stage, i mean the lab is a stage
02:53 thebatman It would be the most epic reality TV ever! especially during Zomb lol
02:53 CSMonster geez
02:53 wannabe1987 yay zomb!
02:53 qwertyboy3 have something to plug into that feeds master control
02:53 TMB Kidwell is still around :)
02:53 thebatman Is TMB kidwell?
02:53 TMB and I am no longer "round" :)
02:53 mman454-mobile yes
02:53 CSMonster YAY
02:53 thebatman lol
02:53 steve_____ Kidwell, do you know what type(s) of coax we have?
02:54 CSMonster The Kidwell returns.
02:54 Cprossu The Grass valley 300 looks the same in style
02:54 thebatman we have at least 6 different spools of coax in storage
02:54 Cprossu to our mystery panel
02:54 steve_____ but the 300 has more inputs
02:54 Cprossu way more inputs
02:54 * BatSteve thinks:  "kidwell needs a custom greet"
02:54 Cprossu I wonder though if the manual will be versed the same
02:54 exor674 too bad you seem to have plenty and it'd be expensive as fuck to ship heh, because I have agiant spool of coax in my basement
02:54 Captain_ Priority for live video feeds is as follows.
02:55 exor674 I have no idea where it came from, it's not mine, it came with my place
02:55 TMB I do not know what variety coax we were playing with today, but it looked like RG6
02:55 Captain_ Rooftop camera (we need a tower, 30' high, with wall mounts), MDH, Cafe, High Voltage Lab, Board Room, then basement labs.
02:56 TMB the type should be printed right on it.
02:56 steve_____ how many uplinks per room and what type of camera(s) do you plan to use
02:56 TMB (sometimes hard to see, especially with *my* eyes :)
02:56 Captain_ I want to make patch-panels in various places. The panel would have a BNC for Video, an XLR for Audio, and perhaps some manner of Tally/Talkback port setup.
02:56 steve_____ batman, can you or have someone look at the coax tomarrow
02:57 thebatman sure i can do that
02:57 Captain_ Cameras will vary, so plan on those ports. I'll show you uplink positions in person.
02:57 steve_____ so 2-3 BNC for video, 2-3 XLR, for audio and com
02:57 thebatman and we got plenty of supplies from our awesome donation that the panel setups will be noo problem
02:57 steve_____ and tally could be additianal XLR
02:58 steve_____ so 3 coax and 4-5 XLR, sound resonable
02:58 Captain_ No, each panel will ahve a setup for ONE camera and operator. We may have multiple panels in certain rooms but I don't want to have to cluster cameras or run cables along the floor. I want it tidy and professional.
02:58 CSMonster is now known as CSM_away_grocery
02:58 steve_____ ok so each panel should be 1 BNC 3 XLR (1 audio, 1 com, 1 tally)
02:59 Captain_ Something like that
02:59 DavidJKuhr I had to grab a bigger box already lol
02:59 Captain_ Comms/Tally may be done via CAT-5 perhaps, I don't know.
02:59 steve_____ unless you have a diff/ better connector for tally
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02:59 wannabe1987 hi brad
03:00 steve_____ clear com systems use an unbalanced signal so I don't know how it  will like UTP
03:00 DavidJKuhr unfortunately I don't have any spare BNC cables they are all in service for the store security system
03:00 eightbitbrad hello :)
03:00 qwertyboy3 hello brad
03:00 Captain_ here you go
03:00 thebatman its ok we got plenty of stuff to make BNC cables
03:00 eightbitbrad Captain_: I found a first-gen iPod.  Interested in doing an autopsy on it?
03:00 steve_____ ya, new video
03:01 DavidJKuhr ok
03:01 Captain_ Hell yes!
03:01 eightbitbrad OKie, I'll toss it in the box with the Xbox, hopefully will get it shipped out next week to you.
03:01 thebatman Just hopefully it won
03:01 eightbitbrad It's the 5GB... with Firewire!
03:01 Captain_ I plan on shooting some Autopsy videos this week, Tomorrow I have a lot of shit to do before I go to the lab, so it may be Thursday before I can do them.
03:02 DavidJKuhr well I well send what I have extra and you guys can use it where needed,  i'm sure it will come in handy somewhere
03:02 thebatman it wont burst into flame like the last mac item*
03:02 Captain_ LMFAO
03:02 eightbitbrad thebatman: Hard to say.  it's been idle for about 8 years now. lol
03:02 eightbitbrad It *may* charge and work
03:02 eightbitbrad who knows what music is on it. lol
03:03 TMB being called away, back in a bit.
03:05 thebatman Captian: i love how u just stroke the lightening rod on the weather cam lol
03:06 DavidJKuhr Captain what address can I send this box o cables to once its full?
03:06 Captain_ The Lab
03:07 Captain_ The Geek Group, 902 Leonard NW, Grand Rapids, MI, 49504
03:07 Cprossu man youtube is either junking out on me today or my internet is
03:07 thebatman Hey are we still needing a name for the lab?
03:07 DavidJKuhr ok thanks I will hopefully send it out tomarrow
03:07 Captain_ no
03:07 eightbitbrad Youtube has been iffy of late.
03:07 Captain_ Leonard Street Labs
03:08 Captain_ gnite guys
03:08 thebatman k
03:08 steve_____ Captain, what is the status of the big door
03:08 eightbitbrad night Captain_
03:08 thebatman the big hole has started to be cut
03:08 BatSteve BotSteve: tell maglinvinn that if he decides to work on the twitter console, make sure to pull down the newest version of the code from either me or python50
03:08 BotSteve BatSteve: I'll pass that on when maglinvinn is around.
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03:09 Cprossu *switches to hd at the cable mess
03:09 eightbitbrad I about fell over at work..  We have MicroVAX machines in the corner of the server room
03:09 maglinvinn i'm here.  email me the package at  batsteve
03:09 BotSteve maglinvinn: At 03:08Z, BatSteve asked me to tell you that if he decides to work on the twitter console, make sure to pull down the newest version of the code from either me or python50
03:10 steve_____ it looks like it's a mess and I don't like that mess but the goal right now is making thing work
03:10 maglinvinn what ya workin on steve
03:10 maglinvinn you at the lab?
03:10 Cprossu I'm looking for clues lol
03:11 BatSteve maglinvinn:
03:11 thebatman only corey is at the lab
03:11 mikemol BatSteve: tell Captain_ take that coax you've got, and put RCA ends on it. I ran the line from that crossover to my old sub that way. Worked great.
03:11 mikemol er.
03:11 mikemol BotSteve: tell Captain_ take that coax you've got, and put RCA ends on it. I ran the line from that crossover to my old sub that way. Worked great.
03:11 BotSteve mikemol: I'll pass that on when Captain_ is around.
03:11 mikemol :)
03:11 BatSteve (grin)
03:12 mikemol BatSteve: Ah, so the teletype Twitter project is yours?
03:12 eightbitbrad maglinvinn: I have found the Xbox!  :)  Cables are in another box. lol
03:12 maglinvinn woot.
03:12 maglinvinn bat steve is the programmer
03:12 eightbitbrad I just moved, so it's still a bit of a mess here.
03:12 maglinvinn i'm doing implementation and testing
03:12 maglinvinn paul's handling hardware
03:12 mikemol BatSteve: I screwed it up a few weeks ago by rebooting the machine. Haven't seen it work since. Hoping you fix it soon. :)
03:13 maglinvinn actually mikemol  if you're around, i could use your linux savvy... i can't find the conf file for ttyS0.conf
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03:13 maglinvinn and i need to confirm that serial 0 is connecting to a dumb terminal at 300baud
03:13 BatSteve mikemol: I just makez the codez.  Fix is maglin's job
03:13 maglinvinn which is in that.
03:14 mikemol maglinvinn: What distro?
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03:14 maglinvinn ubunto 10.10
03:14 mikemol Hm
03:14 maglinvinn i'm linux stupid, btw,
03:14 maglinvinn you should knwo this
03:14 maglinvinn *sage nod*
03:14 mikemol Ubuntu is Linux stupid. >.>
03:14 thebatman LOL
03:14 eightbitbrad lol
03:14 maglinvinn oh, well that works.
03:14 * mikemol sees if he can find the relevant detail.
03:14 * eightbitbrad runs Arch
03:14 thebatman LOL
03:14 DavidJKuhr lol
03:15 maglinvinn i have a gentoo VM box in my pc
03:15 maglinvinn i fucking LOVE it
03:15 thebatman lets all pick on maglinvinn
03:15 maglinvinn ok.
03:15 maglinvinn maglinvinn, you're a dumbass
03:15 eightbitbrad I used to use Gentoo, but I got tired of compiling... so I use Arch
03:15 Coderjoe i'd be surprised if ubuntu even has the bits to be able to drive a dumb terminal
03:15 eightbitbrad Pretty close to Gentoo, but a lot less compiling :)
03:15 Coderjoe not even terminal... tty
03:15 thebatman wow he makes fun of himself
03:15 Coderjoe teletype
03:15 maglinvinn mikemol, i'd not be opposed to wiping that computer and starting from scratch, btw
03:15 mikemol maglinvinn: What's the name of the tty device?
03:15 BatSteve Do it!
03:15 mikemol *shrug*
03:16 mikemol It's just as easy to fix what's there.
03:16 BatSteve Wipes are always beneficial
03:16 eightbitbrad Format C:!
03:16 eightbitbrad oh, sorry, that's Windows ;)
03:16 * mikemol wipes BatSteve's bank account.
03:16 maglinvinn mikemol  i used ttyS0.conf to set it up, then i made another file (CANT remember the name) that says start getty on serial 0, 300baud, dumb terminal
03:16 eightbitbrad I meant  cd /; rm -rf *
03:16 maglinvinn i THINK
03:16 MoxieMike alright, i'm falling asleep at the keyboard...i'll see you guys tomorrow
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03:17 mikemol Ugh
03:17 mikemol Hm
03:17 maglinvinn we ran that 'start up file' and now it just takes off like a rocket at bootup
03:17 maglinvinn and i can't stop getty, can't alter (cause i can't find) ttyS0.conf, and ultimately i wanna kick it in the head
03:17 DavidJKuhr I have in the past given linux drives letters when I and setting stuff up for the less linux savy just so it looks normal to them lol
03:17 mikemol I'll admit that serial comms aren't my strong suit.
03:17 mikemol I haven't had to poke at them in almost a decade.
03:17 DavidJKuhr *am
03:17 maglinvinn thats not hte problem, the problem is i can't find it.  hahaha
03:17 mikemol The file?
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03:17 maglinvinn cause i got it to work
03:18 Cprossu wow that teranex box looks damn cool
03:18 maglinvinn and with the new crossover cable, i should be able to get up AND down communication
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03:18 mikemol maglinvinn: Hm. I'd run "find" in /root and in /home, to try to find it.
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03:18 mikemol something like:
03:18 Cprossu is it a VC300?
03:18 mikemol find . -print0|xargs -0 grep ttyS0
03:18 mikemol (In both directories, as root)
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03:19 Cprossu ahhh steve and capn are gone
03:19 mikemol As for my distros...
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03:19 mikemol Gentoo on my desktop. Ubuntu on HTPC. Debian on router and servers.
03:20 mikemol Ubuntu on one laptop. Used to have Arch on the tablet, but swapped that out for ubuntu a couple weeks ago.
03:20 mikemol I don't like Ubuntu, but sometimes it's the right tool for the moment.
03:20 eightbitbrad I use Ubuntu if I need a box quickly.
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03:21 mikemol maglinvinn: Anyway, try that find line. Try it in /, if you need to, piped through |less. It'll find the file, if it's still on the drive.
03:21 * mikemol is off to sleep
03:22 mikemol I'll be at the lab 2-6PM for the Saturday Social. My bio-dad should be coming by with a load of old electronics, too.
03:22 mikemol Catch you later. :)
03:22 Cprossu holy crap
03:22 Cprossu
03:22 Cprossu where's the image of our switcher?
03:22 Cprossu I'm getting closer lol
03:24 eightbitbrad Sorry if I'm quiet, I'm working on pissing off Apple by jailbreaking my iPhone
03:24 thebatman Dude Cprossu u should know everything about GVG equipment when ur done with this lol
03:24 Cprossu I won't though
03:24 Cprossu not until I use some
03:25 Cprossu all the stuff I used was cobbled together mainly post production equip
03:26 Cprossu which I forced into live use through duck tape, bailing wire, and lots of connections that shouldn't ever have been made
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03:26 Coderjoe Cprossu: no stranger to that here, it seems
03:27 Cprossu back then I was faced with how retarded it was in high school to record announcements a day before they were supposed to be read
03:27 Cprossu so I turned up every corner and found all kinds of stuff that collected dust for years
03:28 Coderjoe and made the talent learn to work live? you sadistic bastard! :P
03:28 Cprossu it was 5x the work to do it the way we originally did, I took it and made it live leaving the rest of the time for taped segments which we could work on between the live segments
03:28 Cprossu we never had time to do cool things before then
03:29 Cprossu I actually used a video effects switcher made for post production, I think it was a panasonic lol
03:29 Coderjoe ouch
03:29 Coderjoe
03:29 Coderjoe $$
03:29 thebatman it seems that allot of the items that get donated to us are the things that weren't very popular model types and are hard to find
03:30 DavidJKuhr sounds about right
03:30 thebatman to find manuals on*
03:30 Coderjoe popular in live production is not terribly popular, and probably installed by integrators with service contracts.
03:31 Cprossu
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03:31 thebatman DUH i need to look through the boxes of manuals that got donated from the same place as the GVG panel there might be one for it in the pile of them!
03:31 Coderjoe (why would the user need manuals with a service contract)
03:31 Cprossu ^this is what we used for live
03:31 Cprossu it was as I say, better than walking
03:31 Cprossu it even had a shittastic chroma key too
03:31 exor674 probably in a giant nondescript binder
03:32 thebatman probably and i got boxes of nondescript binders to look through lol
03:32 DavidJKuhr it is surprising what some people can get away with when doing anything live
03:32 TMB well folks, I'm going to call it a night. Y'all have a good one!!!
03:33 wannabe1987 night!
03:33 Cprossu have a good one
03:33 thebatman night
03:33 Cprossu the sad thing was not only did we get away with it, but the quality was at least 200% better
03:33 Cprossu because of the generations of copy
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03:34 Cprossu we had panasonic svhs decks that before I came they used standard vhs in
03:34 Coderjoe need more Q-type cables still? (not that I have any, but that looks to be the proper name)
03:34 Cprossu so we had pentiumII 233's that we did editing on
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03:34 Cprossu with mirovideo DC30 cap cards
03:34 Cprossu and...ghasp adobe premiere 5
03:34 thebatman Ouch
03:34 Cprossu man it sucked I tell you
03:34 Cprossu press render and pray
03:34 wannabe1987 why is there a arm swinging largely in the MDH?
03:34 Coderjoe Cprossu: don't badmouth 5. I still use 5.1c
03:35 thebatman stop it cprossu u are gonna give me nightmares!
03:35 Coderjoe (avoid "5.5" as it does not really exist)
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03:35 Cprossu Coderjoe: ever use a mirovideo dc30?
03:35 thebatman that is the camera crane and we were showing off its awesomness
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03:35 Coderjoe well, I haven't actually edited recently, but I still have 5 installed on my editing computer
03:35 thebatman lol
03:35 Coderjoe no, I have not used a DC30
03:35 Cprossu editing with a encoder bound card is much different
03:35 Cprossu causes some interesting things sometimes
03:36 Cprossu like if the software froze a certain way you'd get an audio feedback loop through the system
03:36 Coderjoe i have edited with a DV500, back in 2002
03:36 Cprossu anyway so get this
03:36 Cprossu panasonic craptastic omnimovies would cap it
03:37 Cprossu then go to NLE via dc30
03:37 Cprossu then onto another tape
03:37 Coderjoe interesting...
03:37 Cprossu then combined on a linear editor
03:37 Cprossu so I was like...WTF
03:37 Coderjoe connecting clearcom unbalanced comms with a sony CCU
03:37 Cprossu I dug out a ton of sony umatic 3/4" equip
03:37 Cprossu and got it all running
03:38 Cprossu I liked that very much
03:38 Coderjoe probably put in storage due to the cost of tapes (vs regular vhs)
03:39 Cprossu we had lots of tape too
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03:39 Cprossu even blank tape
03:39 Cprossu so I made good use of it
03:39 Cprossu and eventually we used the old backpack/heavycam sony as our main live cam
03:40 Cprossu and lit the piss outa the set
03:40 BatSteve back in a sec
03:40 thebatman u know its funny we got all kinds of Beta players and recorders and even cameras from our last donation but not a damn single beta tape
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03:40 Cprossu the video switcher let us put an overlay in so we'd literally make videos of pictures to be displayed
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03:40 BotSteve Welcome back, boss
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03:40 Cprossu and time it and everything
03:40 Cprossu man the shit we got away with
03:41 Coderjoe because they went to file
03:41 Cprossu and no one knew either
03:41 Coderjoe and I think the tapes are still used for DVCAM and such
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03:41 thaery Can anyone explain negative voltage to me in an easy to understand way?
03:41 Cprossu I don't think 3/4 umatic is used for anything anymore
03:41 Cprossu I could be wrong
03:41 mman454 I feel really, really fucking retarted right now.
03:42 Coderjoe Cprossu: I meant beta
03:42 Cprossu ahh ok
03:42 thebatman alright batman has an early morning of hauling more cool equipment from geek house good night everyone!
03:42 Yaotzin thaery: there is a thumper video from kzoo that talked about negative voltage
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03:42 Yaotzin I'll see if I can find it but I'm also cooking
03:42 BotSteve Welcome back, boss
03:42 Cprossu
03:43 Cprossu that was one of our decks
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03:43 mman454 I just purchased the same song from itunes twice. Once from the deluxe version of the album and once from the non deluxe album.
03:43 mman454 FML
03:43 thaery Yaotzin: no rush
03:43 Coderjoe FiT
03:44 mman454 what?
03:44 Coderjoe F... iTunes
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03:45 mman454 Sorry but I don't pirate my music.
03:45 Coderjoe who said pirate
03:45 Coderjoe i sure didn't
03:45 mman454 Its generally implied. That is unless you're fucking around with those other pain in the ass music services.
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03:46 Coderjoe i prefer CD still. I rip it myself to FLAC, so I can then transcode it to whatever format I need.
03:46 Coderjoe I prefer uncompressed or lossless.
03:47 DavidJKuhr I like to listen to music before I buy it and I too like lossless audio
03:47 mman454 And you get lossless from where?
03:47 DavidJKuhr CD's
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03:48 DavidJKuhr and a very small number of online music vendors
03:48 Red_ Music should make your hips move. Just saying.
03:49 Coderjoe now I may be a bit crazy, but I also still buy the occasional vinyl, film, and LD... not everything is available in a convenient form.
03:50 DavidJKuhr very true
03:50 mman454 LD?
03:50 Coderjoe laserdisc
03:50 mman454 ah
03:52 NeWtoz man, you guys talk a lot, I don't know why I read the back log
03:53 Red_ Laserdisk players are crazy. I love them.
03:53 exor674 laserdisks look like they'd be a good weapon >_<
03:53 exor674 I wonder what RPM those run at
03:53 BatSteve NeWtoz: For the pearls of less-crap in the sea of really-crap
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03:54 Yaotzin;feature=player_detailpage#t=1971s  thaery
03:55 Yaotzin this is a good video to watch all the way through by the way
03:55 Yaotzin but this should be what you were looking for
03:55 Yaotzin i think
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03:56 thaery I'll watch it
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03:58 BotSteve Welcome back, boss
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04:06 DavidJKuhr well you all have a good one I am off for the night
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04:13 thaery Yaotzin: not quite, fun though !
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04:14 Yaotzin Oh wait
04:14 Yaotzin do you mean like
04:14 Yaotzin above and below ground?
04:14 Yaotzin like how you would measure peak to peak
04:14 Yaotzin like uh
04:14 thaery yep, like a PSU with -5V GND +5V
04:15 thaery I'm lost on that I don't get it
04:15 Yaotzin Have you seen the oscilloscope series from TGG?
04:15 thaery yep
04:15 Red_ Rawr.
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04:19 wannabe1987 hi
04:19 wannabe1987 was red_ from the studio today?
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04:42 wannabe1987 bye
04:45 BatSteve-Away seeya
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05:07 Cprossu I like LD lol
05:07 Cprossu (reads back)
05:08 Cprossu I just hope my poor pioneer ld players last, I gave my last industrial model to a fan
05:09 Cprossu (along with a spare CAV widescreen copy of aliens I had)
05:09 Coderjoe i only have one, and it sometimes needs help ejecting
05:10 Cprossu if it's got a belt drive, get a delta kitchen faucet o-ring and use it instead
05:10 Cprossu (for the ejection)
05:11 Cprossu
05:11 Cprossu Item 6
05:12 Cprossu they are plentiful and cheap too
05:13 Cprossu although every one I've put in hasn't failed yet
05:13 Coderjoe I don't remember what the drive is, but I do know it seems to catch just short of having the tray face clear the face of the unit. if I grab it and give it a bit of a tug, it pops free of whatever it was stuck on and opens the rest of the way fine
05:13 Coderjoe and it doesn't always happen
05:13 IIsi50MHz Hmm, I should look for one for my gran's combo VTR/DVD. The DVD part usually fails to raise the laser platform due to a loose belt.
05:13 Cprossu what happens is they will eventually not seat the disc right
05:14 Cprossu and either the disc won't be secured to the spindle on spin up or it won't work at all
05:14 Cprossu but it's a really easy fix at least
05:14 Cprossu what make/model do you have
05:17 Coderjoe i'll tell you when I get home in about 20 minutes
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05:24 Cprossu of the working players I own, all pioneer's, my 2 'cool' ld players are newer Pioneer cld-v5000's, and I have a CLD-980 which people don't like but has always been a good, tough, robust player to me
05:27 Cprossu the one I gave to a buddy was my standby, an industrial model LD-V2000
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05:36 Sjogerst howdy yall
05:36 Cprossu hey
05:36 Sjogerst wassup
05:36 Cprossu waiting to find out what kinda LD player Coderjoe has
05:37 Sjogerst ld?
05:37 Cprossu laserdisc
05:37 Sjogerst ah
05:37 Sjogerst before my time
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05:37 Cprossu wow killed that one dead
05:39 exor674 lol wut?
05:39 Cprossu * Sjogerst (62cfbfb8@gateway/web/freenode/ip. Quit (Client Quit)
05:40 exor674 yeah I saw that
05:41 Cprossu Cprossu: sending people away in horror from tech related IRC rooms since 1997 xD
05:41 exor674 Aaaaah, it's a Cprossu! /part
05:42 Cprossu I wonder if is exactly the same as it was in 1997
05:42 Cprossu I haven't even thought about that website in like 7 years
05:43 Cprossu nope no change really
05:43 Cprossu <erno> hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.
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05:44 IIsi50MHz Good old one.
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05:44 CSMonster anyone still awake?
05:45 Cprossu oh btw I dug up my IISI
05:45 Cprossu it needs a hard drive, but I do have a good PSU for it now
05:45 CSMonster i'll take that as a no
05:46 Cprossu and you'd be correct in your assumption
05:46 CSMonster lol awesome
05:46 Cprossu I'm just staying upish to see what kinda LD player Coderjoe has
05:47 CSMonster i wandered away much longer than i intended to due to a long string of favor requests mostly pertaining to cooking
05:47 Cprossu granted that was 30 minutes ago, he said he'd be home 10 minutes ago...about...
05:47 Cprossu I did the same
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05:55 Coderjoe CLD-V121G
05:55 Coderjoe sorry that took longer than I expected. got waylaid by a co-worker as I was leaving
05:56 Cprossu that one will have the drive belt
05:57 Cprossu interesting player too
05:58 Coderjoe i picked it up used from a local music store in the mid to late 90s
05:58 Cprossu does karaoke too
05:58 Coderjoe yep, which is why they even had it
05:59 Cprossu but yeah if you start having issues with it seating right (and you will) just get the delta faucet o-ring mentioned
05:59 Cprossu fits nice and snug
05:59 Cprossu and is ubiquitous and cheap
06:01 Cprossu good night
06:01 CSMonster byebye
06:03 Photon939 anyone here have experience with the ATMEGA32U4
06:04 CSMonster not I, sorry
06:04 Coderjoe i haven't. i don't think anyone else is around. what's up?
06:04 Coderjoe (perhaps i can find something)
06:04 Photon939 I'm looking to know if it also has an internal voltage reference like the atmega328
06:04 Photon939 for the ADC that is
06:05 Coderjoe the chip itself has an AREF pin
06:06 Coderjoe which is the reference for the ADC
06:06 Photon939 of course, but I was hoping for an internal voltage reference
06:06 Photon939 the ATMEGA328 can use an internal 1.1v source
06:07 Coderjoe ATmega16U4/ATmega32U4 features an internal bandgap reference. This reference is used for
06:07 Coderjoe Brown-out Detection, and it can be used as an input to the Analog Comparator or the ADC.
06:08 Coderjoe page 54 of the datasheet
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06:11 Photon939 i figured as much
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06:19 Photon939 thanks Coderjoe, btw
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11:11 Cj1corbystarlet_ a
11:11 NeWtoz b
11:11 Sgt_Lemming charlie
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11:36 Cj1corbystarlet_ Haha sorry rested a book on my keyboard .
11:40 Thermoelectric Oh well, your book sparked a conversation, so that's pretty cool.
11:46 Cj1corbystarlet_ The book was Fluid dynamics for for dummies, as it fell over i spilt my beer, kinda ironic
11:55 Sgt_Lemming rofl
11:55 Sgt_Lemming working on a design for the local cycle centre atm
11:55 Sgt_Lemming drying room for everyones sweaty clothes
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11:57 Sgt_Lemming mmm, 22GB 1080p rip of Gladiator
11:58 Thermoelectric Wow
12:00 Cj1corbystarlet_ Drying room =  Heat and airflow for the win
12:00 Sgt_Lemming Cj1corbystarlet_, that's the plan
12:00 Sgt_Lemming well the airflow part
12:01 Sgt_Lemming gonna push 400CFM in thru a slatted floor, then there is an exhause fan above it
12:01 Sgt_Lemming this is going into an existing bathroom btw
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12:05 Cj1corbystarlet_ How many cubic feet is the existing bathroom
12:05 Sgt_Lemming nfi
12:05 Sgt_Lemming and I work in metric, not imperial :-P
12:05 asnopus Yay, metric!
12:06 Sgt_Lemming the drying room is 2800mm wide, 1600mm deep and 2200mm high
12:06 * mtearle bops
12:07 Sgt_Lemming or sorry, that's the area I have to fit it into
12:07 Sgt_Lemming and that include the raised floor to allow for the airflow from underneath
12:09 Cj1corbystarlet_ i work in metric also but at work i have to bounce between metric/imperial all the time
12:09 Sgt_Lemming I often do
12:09 Sgt_Lemming can do most of the coversions in my head instantly
12:09 Cj1corbystarlet_ i cant !
12:10 Sgt_Lemming but given a choice, metric every time
12:10 asnopus Thats the spirit
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12:12 Cj1corbystarlet_ so room volume is about 9.8m3 wich is about 346 ft3 a 400ft3 fan /min should be ok
12:13 Sgt_Lemming 4 fans actually, doing 100CFM each
12:13 Sgt_Lemming keep in mind these need to fit in 150mm of vertical space
12:13 Cj1corbystarlet_ will the exhaust fan be <400 cfm or > 400cfm
12:14 Sgt_Lemming nfi
12:14 Sgt_Lemming it's building HVAC system
12:14 Cj1corbystarlet_ ahhh ok
12:14 Cj1corbystarlet_ so more than likely a +pressure room ?
12:14 Sgt_Lemming probably
12:14 Sgt_Lemming but it's a ginormous change room
12:15 Sgt_Lemming so in total it will balance out
12:15 Sgt_Lemming there are iirc 20 shower cubicles in the shower section, which is where this will be
12:15 Cj1corbystarlet_ i think hvac is about 50cfm per outlet but u could be wrong
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12:20 LittleGreenFlame Anyone on?
12:20 asnopus yep
12:20 LittleGreenFlame Awesome!
12:20 asnopus whats happening?
12:20 LittleGreenFlame Not much
12:21 LittleGreenFlame I always wake up early and go to bed early, but it seems all the action happends late
12:21 Thermoelectric Depends where you are...
12:21 asnopus tis 8:19 in GR
12:21 LittleGreenFlame True
12:21 LittleGreenFlame 2:21
12:22 Thermoelectric Tis 10:21PM here
12:22 LittleGreenFlame 7:21
12:22 asnopus 9:50PM in south australia
12:22 LittleGreenFlame How come the video clock says 12:22?
12:22 asnopus times probably wrong
12:23 LittleGreenFlame Do they stream thru the night?
12:23 Cj1corbystarlet_ 8:22 in Perth W.A
12:23 asnopus yea
12:23 LittleGreenFlame ok
12:23 Thermoelectric Good to see some more Aussies in here. :)
12:23 LittleGreenFlame I know a few Aussie pyro buddies
12:24 Sgt_Lemming Cj1corbystarlet_ heard of Artifactory?
12:24 Cj1corbystarlet_ Yeah i have seen their website but never visited in person
12:24 Sgt_Lemming you should :-P
12:24 Sgt_Lemming they are about to get the exact same lathe that brisbane just has
12:25 Cj1corbystarlet_ Are you in Oz ??
12:25 * Sgt_Lemming nods
12:25 Sgt_Lemming brisneyland
12:25 Cj1corbystarlet_ ah bananna bender
12:25 Sgt_Lemming indeed
12:25 Cj1corbystarlet_ :)
12:25 Sgt_Lemming as opposed to a backwater hick :-P
12:25 Cj1corbystarlet_ haha thats SA
12:26 Thermoelectric Heehee
12:26 Sgt_Lemming no no, that's perth
12:26 LittleGreenFlame Its impossible to make out the police scanner >.>
12:26 Sgt_Lemming SA is inbredsville, where all the escaped tasmanians go
12:26 Cj1corbystarlet_ I say perth and brisvagas are the best places to live in aus
12:26 asnopus >:C you dissin SA?
12:26 Sgt_Lemming hobarts pretty awesome
12:26 Sgt_Lemming I had a lot of fun living there
12:27 Cj1corbystarlet_ I spent way too much time in SA with the RAAF
12:27 Cj1corbystarlet_ You ladies should post your loaction in the Aus/NZ forum section
12:27 Cj1corbystarlet_ *location
12:27 Thermoelectric Good idea.
12:27 Sgt_Lemming yeah, I really should post on the forum more
12:28 Sgt_Lemming ontop of the 20 other fucking things I already do :-P
12:28 Thermoelectric Bit hard to get used to all the changes, IMO.
12:28 Cj1corbystarlet_ Ill setup a section for each state if you guys want
12:28 Sgt_Lemming sall good
12:28 LittleGreenFlame I'm too used to APC forum, I don't like the format of TGG's forum
12:28 Sgt_Lemming probably not enough of us to warrant it Cj1corbystarlet_
12:29 asnopus yea, i prefer PHPBB myself
12:29 Cj1corbystarlet_ Yeah true but if some one posts there close location in a QLD forum, you never know when a nubie might stroll through the site
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12:41 Thermoelectric Morning
12:41 dagnyscott mornin
12:44 Thermoelectric The whole 51 people thing still amazes me, I remember the days of under 10 people.
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12:47 Cj1corbystarlet_ 52
12:48 Thermoelectric Touche'
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12:49 Thermoelectric Guess the morning brings the advent of more people, morning eightbitbrad and robVILE.
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12:49 robVILE Morning! thought I would check out the IRC before heading to the GR office..
12:50 Cj1corbystarlet_ yeah i's say 70 percent of the listed are asleep
12:50 robVILE no doubt...
12:50 eightbitbrad Good morning. :)
12:50 Thermoelectric 30 percent of 54 is still enough to chat to. :)
12:50 Whisperingwolf or haven't had their coffee yet and not really responding
12:51 Cj1corbystarlet_ <back in a sec .... beer run>
12:51 robVILE lmao. or beer..
12:51 Thermoelectric Geeks without robots bringing them beer? What is this, 1990
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12:52 Thermoelectric ?* :P
12:52 Thermoelectric guest3: You can change your nick by typing /nick yournickhere
12:53 robVILE lol, I am still without robots... however, I should probably get ready to head to the office.... remember to watch the live ustream channel - which should be up sometime around noon, if not already.
12:54 JA12 it's up
12:55 robVILE i'll be damned.. they keep us interns in the dark until week 2..
12:56 Cj1corbystarlet_ Yeah i gave the missus the night off from "Domestic duties"
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12:57 robVILE lol. I'll see you guys in live stream in a few hrs.
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12:57 Cj1corbystarlet_ sigh i'll be asleep
12:57 Thermoelectric As shall I.
12:58 Cj1corbystarlet_ I hope they start recording the sessions soon
12:58 Thermoelectric Eh?
12:59 eightbitbrad Recording the stream, I think.
12:59 Thermoelectric Then it's not really live is it?
12:59 Cj1corbystarlet_ yeah but then we can spped through and look at the good bits
12:59 Cj1corbystarlet_ *speed
13:00 Thermoelectric True.
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13:01 BotSteve ***Attention on deck!  Captain on the bridge!***
13:01 eightbitbrad The clock on the stream is... entrancing...
13:01 eightbitbrad Morning Captain_
13:01 Thermoelectric Morning Cap
13:01 Captain_ Goodmorning gentlemen
13:01 BotSteve Captain_: At 03:11Z, mikemol asked me to tell you take that coax you've got, and put RCA ends on it. I ran the line from that crossover to my old sub that way. Worked great.
13:01 asnopus hey hey
13:01 Thermoelectric That enter key has moved.
13:02 Captain_ So, I have a project for teh computer lab guys :)
13:02 Cj1corbystarlet_ Howdy Captn
13:02 Captain_ And people here could help with it.
13:02 Captain_ Something we need, very very badly, is a reliable intercom system for the technical crew during production.
13:03 Captain_ I need headset intercoms for master control, switching, director, IRC monitor, each cameraman, and occasionally the talent.
13:03 Captain_ The concept of Mumble/Murmur has come up, and I love the idea.
13:04 Captain_ I however, know shit about gaming. I know headphones inside and out (I wear them for a living), but I don't game, and my headphones never have a mic on them.
13:04 Captain_ So I need to know some good ones I can get locally in GR (Preferaby somewhere on Alpine) at a reasonable price.
13:05 Captain_ And we need to find the best possible solution for the computers that the crew will use. The server will of course be in master control.
13:06 Cj1corbystarlet_ I use teamspeak when online gaming with the flightsim guy's,  never had a problem with it
13:06 eightbitbrad I'm not sure TeamSpeak's server is free, though.
13:07 eightbitbrad Mumble looks pretty good, just be aware of the bandwidth, which on the local network shouldn't be too bad.
13:07 Cj1corbystarlet_ I'll look into it my mate hosts the teamspeak server on his computer
13:07 Thermoelectric I could see having something like Mumble being problematic, as there would need to be a interface per headset. Unless ofcourse you guys used USB instead.
13:08 Captain_ We'll be on a GB LAN so it should be fine.
13:09 Cj1corbystarlet_ team speak client and server look free to me
13:09 Cj1corbystarlet_ but there is many teamspeak is just one suggerstion ;)
13:10 Cj1corbystarlet_
13:10 Captain_ Unless you can give me some overwhelmignly compelling reason to use it, I'm already planning on Mumble.
13:11 dagnyscott mumble is good stuff.
13:11 eightbitbrad Hmmm, I must have been looking at something else then.  Regardless, Mumble/Teamspeak/whatever would be pretty awesome, and if you need to add another "speaker" or "station", load it up on another box and off you go.
13:11 Cprossu I personally use ventrillo
13:11 Cj1corbystarlet_ ahh ok i thought you were looking for software suggestion
13:12 eightbitbrad Supposedly there are also Mumble clients in the works for ye olde smartphones too
13:12 Cprossu as for gaming headsets though
13:12 Cprossu it's hard to beat the cheaper sennheisers
13:12 asnopus Well mumble is open source so then you can meddle with it
13:12 Cprossu plantronics gaming headset mics are junk
13:13 asnopus I agree
13:13 Cprossu as are nearly any bluetooth or wireless solution
13:13 Captain_ It doesn't have to be cheap, it has to be GOOD, it has to work, cheap is a plus though, remember I have to buy half a dozen of these.
13:13 Captain_ These will be hardwired, not bluetooth.
13:13 Cprossu good good
13:13 asnopus logitech headsets?
13:13 Cprossu the wires are trash
13:14 Cprossu I short logis out in < 1 year
13:14 Captain_;Expires=1302786588&amp;Signature=vdBCDLUkaFO8l%2F70LQqplDbMiPE%3D
13:15 Thermoelectric I take it Mumble can be configured to start transmitting when you talk? Having each person need to be next to a keyboard to trigger transmission could also be annoying.
13:15 Captain_ It's triggered by pressing a single key right?
13:15 asnopus It defaults to voice activation i believe
13:15 Cj1corbystarlet_ haha
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13:16 Cprossu Captain_: you can do either key or voice activated with most software
13:16 eightbitbrad Look out, the Batmobile is pulling in.
13:16 mikemol Captain_: re the coax with RCA ends. The coax had normal ends on it, I just used an adapter to get those to RCA.
13:16 Cprossu;cm_re=headset-_-26-106-157-_-Product
13:16 Captain_ If it's VOX, that's fine, if it's PTT I can (and have) easily hacked a keyboard controller to have a single key ;)
13:16 Cprossu ^ here's an example of a decent headset
13:16 Captain_ Mike, why do I want RCA ends on Coax?
13:16 Cprossu we can go cheaper but they won't be comfy at all
13:17 Captain_ Yeah, they have to be comfortable.
13:17 Cprossu (but they will still be more comfy than a old school telex headset if you catch my drift)
13:17 Captain_ Now, can I get those at Best buy, preferably on Alpine NW in GR?
13:17 Thermoelectric Mike's suggestion was a solution to your lack of RCA cables.
13:17 Cprossu;cm_re=headset-_-26-106-155-_-Product
13:17 Captain_ ahhhhhh, ok
13:17 Captain_ Thank you Mike.
13:17 Cj1corbystarlet_ David Clarkes, but tht would be Waaaaaaay out of the budget
13:18 Cprossu hrmmm good question.. BB usually has a $20 upcharge from anyone else
13:18 Bat-Mobile +1 David Clark
13:18 Bat-Mobile (:
13:18 Cprossu too bad the closest fry's electronics to you guys is in indiana
13:18 mikemol Captain_: 1) You've got lots of coax. 2) Coax is nice for signal. 3) You need cables with RCA ends.
13:18 Captain_ I have a pair of DC's, they won't work for this (the plugs are incompatible, I've tried).
13:19 mikemol If any of those reasons fail, then don't bother. :)
13:19 JA12 if the microphone comes near mouth then it  needs that what-it's-called padding thingy.. and a good one. heavy breathing is annoying to listen to
13:19 Captain_ Yes Mike, thank you. I solved the RCA problem yesterday though ;)
13:19 mikemol Ah
13:19 mikemol Didn't catch that.
13:19 Bat-Mobile (That's partially because your Clarks are 25 years old and designed for helicopters)
13:19 Cprossu I'll be darned
13:19 Cj1corbystarlet_ DC's can be converted, ive done a couple for some audio guy's
13:19 Captain_ It's ok, but remember, I just built a working TV station in a single week, I'm not goign to let cables got me down for more than a day.
13:19 Cprossu here->;skuId=9751317&amp;st=SENNHEISER&amp;cp=2&amp;lp=3
13:20 Captain_ yes, 4 cents more......but sold out.
13:20 Cprossu at least online
13:21 Cprossu and everywhere wtfg
13:21 mikemol is a good online store if you can wait for stuff to show up the next day.
13:21 mikemol Select 3-day shipping, order before 4PM, and it shows up in GRR the next morning.
13:21 mikemol Freaky fast.
13:21 Captain_ I'm hoping to just go somewhere and GET them.
13:21 NickelFerrum i have the same sennheisers, but they don't stick to the head really well
13:22 NickelFerrum and i managed to rrip the cable out of them twice already
13:22 Captain_ TRy staples
13:22 NickelFerrum staples hurt
13:22 NickelFerrum a lot
13:22 Captain_ only at first
13:22 mikemol Scary thing is he probably knows that from experience. :)
13:22 Captain_ I've actually used rubber cement to hold headphones on a guy once (he was an enthusiastic drummer who had the benefit of being completely bald).
13:23 NickelFerrum :)
13:23 Captain_ He thought it was the best idea ever, worked great, even held up to sweat.
13:23 NickelFerrum until?
13:24 Cprossu my current plantronics headset is held together with cat5 strands, rubber splicing tape, black duck tape, vinyl electrical tape, and...........a coke bottle cap with a hole drilled through the middle.
13:24 mikemol I imagine it wasn't quite as bad as peeling tape off.
13:24 Captain_ until what, stayed there all session, we peeled it off when done. We did this every day for weeks with no problems at all.
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13:25 mikemol I imagine it could lead to acne problems if left on *too* long. But the same goes for never taking a wristwatch off...
13:25 Cprossu I've never had acne from my wristwatch
13:25 Captain_ Me either
13:25 mikemol I had a really nasty acne-like rash as a kid from it.
13:26 Cprossu you allergic to copper/brass?
13:26 mikemol Thought it was a metal allergy, but it even happened with plastic backs.
13:26 Cprossu well all I can say is that's not normal
13:26 mikemol I was once told by a dermatologist that I likely have a nickel allergy. Note you'll never see me wear a belt...
13:27 mikemol Tried ordering a "nickel-free" belt, but that didn't help.
13:27 mikemol Dunno what it is, just easier to avoid the category of scenarios.
13:27 Cprossu I just struck out at staples and officemax for those headsets, lol
13:28 Cprossu Captain_: what other... uh... consumer electronics stores are out there?
13:28 mikemol Big chains?
13:29 mikemol hm
13:29 Cprossu just has to be big enough to search online inventory
13:29 mikemol We really need a multi-player notepad or spreadsheet for this.
13:29 Cprossu it's called google docs
13:29 * mikemol is setting one up right now
13:30 Bat-Mobile mikemol: I thought IRC was multiplayer notepad
13:30 mikemol Bat-Mobile: ONly according to
13:30 Cprossu yeah but not a spreadsheet
13:30 Cprossu I was gonna say the same thing
13:30 mikemol;hl=en
13:32 Cprossu wow. grainger has some whacked out shit
13:32 Cprossu
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13:33 Electronics Morning(err afternoon?) all
13:33 asnopus Hi
13:33 steve_____ joined #thegeekgroup
13:34 mikemol Hm
13:34 steve_____ anyone online and at tle lab?
13:34 Cprossu the gpc link is no good
13:34 mikemol There's Ackermann, which primarily does telco and electrical stuff. Maybe they'd have something
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13:35 mikemol Cprossu: Doesn't work?
13:35 Cprossu ahh works now
13:36 mikemol Part of the trouble is that most of the non-big-chains don't have their inventories tied to their websites.
13:37 Cprossu walmart has senn's but.... they don't stock them in store
13:38 mikemol That's public-edit; add anything you know of.
13:38 steve_____ what are you looking for?
13:38 Captain_ also, we need a solution for the computers themselves.
13:39 Cprossu same with radioshack
13:39 Captain_ Gmorning Steve
13:39 Cprossu how many headsets does 1 computer have to support?
13:39 Captain_ The only people at the lab right now are the contractors, you can hear teh concrete saw every now and then.
13:39 steve_____ Captain, can you have someone post what types of coax we have instock on the forum today?
13:39 mikemol Cprossu: Individual Radio Shack outlets choose what they stock. Different stores will have differing selection.
13:39 Captain_ They CAN support more than one?
13:40 Captain_ yes
13:40 Cprossu it's possible
13:40 Cprossu just depends on what you run
13:40 Captain_ how?
13:40 mikemol Captain_: You can drop as many sound cards in one machine as you like.
13:40 Captain_ Mumble
13:40 steve_____ morning capt'
13:40 Cprossu if you build it with a soundcard with multiple inputs it'll work too
13:40 Cprossu I haven't used mumble, so let me nab it and look
13:40 Captain_ I'm doing this on basic little IBM p4's, they only HAVE one PCI clot.
13:41 mikemol USB sound cards are, to an extent, preferable anyway.
13:41 mikemol Better at filtering out bus noise.
13:41 Cprossu they are annoying when they die and you have to replace them
13:41 Captain_ I have over 100 of these computers in stock, so we're fine with seperate machines. But if I can pair them up in certain places, it's a good thing, maybe even 3 on one machine.
13:41 Cprossu and they suck when you move them around and have to reconfigure them
13:41 mikemol Hm
13:41 Cprossu well at least you don't have a shortage of machines
13:41 steve_____ seeing most card have 2 channels (l/R) and com can be mono I would think 2 should be possible stock if mumble supports it
13:42 Cprossu those are those little lenovo half height machines, right?
13:42 Captain_ yeah
13:42 Cprossu do you know what chipset the onboard nm just give me a model # and i'll ge that figured out
13:42 Cj1corbystarlet_ they would have onboard atleast
13:42 Captain_ no idea
13:43 Cprossu also is the one pci slot run sideways?
13:43 Captain_ How the hell are there 21 people watching the stream that has shown nothing but a screensaver for 12 hours?
13:43 Cprossu because you pop it up and go to sleep
13:43 Sgt_Lemming people leaving the window open
13:43 Electronics people are witing expectantly
13:43 Cj1corbystarlet_ we are waiting :)
13:43 mikemol There's a "wishlist" tab on that Google Docs spreadsheet, if anyone wants to try maintaining that.
13:43 Sgt_Lemming lo Captain_
13:43 Electronics *waiting
13:44 Bat-Mobile lurkers, same reason this channel stayed at 50 people all night
13:45 eightbitbrad Captain_: I think the clock is entrancing people.
13:45 Electronics hehe
13:45 Electronics if it's true I'm only an hour ahead of the lab
13:45 eightbitbrad What might be cool is to get a screensaver that scrolls an RSS feed or something.
13:45 Electronics show the IRC?
13:45 Captain_ lol
13:45 Cj1corbystarlet_ if you wanted to srew with people, run the clock backwards for 10 seconds every hour
13:45 eightbitbrad Electronics: how meta of you. lol
13:46 Cprossu we have 20 people waiting for a hypnotic suggestion??
13:46 Bat-Mobile Electronics: what timezone?
13:46 eightbitbrad Electronics: The clock on the stream is wrong, I'm thinking.
13:46 mikemol You know what would be _really_ awesome? Show the IRC channel using xscreensaver's 'terminal' hack.
13:46 Electronics GMT(+1 BST)
13:46 steve_____ it's UTC
13:46 eightbitbrad mikemol: I think the box we're looking at is Winders.
13:46 mikemol At home, I have that run and show output of utility monitoring scripts. :)
13:46 Bat-Mobile Electronics: the lab is UTC -4 right now
13:46 Bat-Mobile .t -4
13:46 BotSteve Wed, 13 Apr 2011 09:46:43 -4
13:46 Bat-Mobile is our current time
13:46 mikemol eightbitbrad: So run an X server on it. :P
13:46 moxiemike-asleep Hey Captain_ I heard a rumor about a photo lab at there anything hapening with that?
13:46 mikemol There are X servers for Windows.
13:46 eightbitbrad mikemol: Blasphemy!
13:47 mikemol I'd hate to maintain it, though.
13:47 * mikemol loathes cygwin.
13:47 moxiemike-asleep is now known as MoxieMike
13:47 Captain_ Yes, Studio A will be still photography.
13:47 mikemol A worse packaging system does not exist--it wouldn't be a packaging system.
13:47 Captain_ right now, it has 12.5 tons of rock maple sitting in it.
13:47 Captain_ That all needs to be de-nailed soon.
13:47 Cj1corbystarlet_ hope the floors good for it
13:48 Captain_ Has been for weeks.
13:48 Captain_ It will be moving soon.
13:48 Captain_ It'll be denailed, sorted, and properly stored in a few weeks.
13:48 eightbitbrad "but it wasn't a rock.... was rock... maple!"
13:48 Captain_ There's massive, massive radical change about to happen at the lab.
13:49 Sgt_Lemming ....?
13:49 Cj1corbystarlet_ Door
13:49 eightbitbrad *cues up the dramatic music*
13:49 asnopus Oooooo
13:49 Captain_ We have about 2 weeks, maybe 3, then everything will change.
13:49 steve_____ can we belive in the change?
13:49 eightbitbrad Oh!  Opening day
13:49 Bat-Mobile We're getting a kitty?!?!
13:49 Captain_ no, before opening day.
13:49 eightbitbrad Bat-Mobile: Shall we name kitty the Batcat?
13:49 Captain_ Listen to the stream, hear that soft sound int eh background? the WOMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
13:50 Captain_ That's a concrete saw.
13:50 Captain_ Change is coming.
13:50 eightbitbrad The door!
13:50 Cj1corbystarlet_ Door
13:50 mikemol Ugh. Digi-Key wants $4 a piece for RCA male to F female adapters? And no bulk options?
13:50 MoxieMike Captain_  The friend I'm getting all the cameras from has a film developing andprinting machine as works on film, and they couldn't get it to work with digitals yet.  She has all the books for it.  She wants a couple hundred for it.  It will go to scrap otherwise.  The only trouble is that it's in Maine.
13:50 Bat-Mobile (grin) I realized afterwards that I should have asked if Omni was going to have puppies.
13:50 eightbitbrad then the lab would have Batcat and the Wonder dog!
13:50 Captain_ Omni (like her owner) has been fixed and is quite incapable of breeding.
13:51 steve_____ for RCA to F try MPJA or all electronics
13:51 mikemol steve_____: URLs?
13:51 Sgt_Lemming hey Captain_, what's a good cheap airline that flies to Grand Rapids?
13:51 Cj1corbystarlet_ Captin i have a story to tell about inert people
13:51 mikemol Found MPJA
13:51 Sgt_Lemming trying to work out better options for getting there
13:51 Sgt_Lemming so it doesn't cost me $3k
13:51 Captain_ Hitchhike
13:51 Captain_ Swim?
13:51 Sgt_Lemming lol
13:52 steve_____
13:52 Captain_ Catch a ride on a container ship
13:52 asnopus Build a submarine
13:52 Sgt_Lemming I would if I had a longer time
13:52 Bat-Mobile Sgt_Lemming: if you want cheap, fly to O'hare or Detroit Metro and catch a train
13:52 Sgt_Lemming I have rent to pay back here
13:52 Sgt_Lemming k Bat-Mobile
13:52 steve_____ ttyl, time to go play with a lathe
13:52 eightbitbrad I'm hoping this fall I can make the trek up from Georgia.
13:53 Bat-Mobile Going direct Grand Rapids adds at least 0.5 to the cost
13:53 Cj1corbystarlet_ I'm still planning for oct/nov
13:53 Sgt_Lemming kk
13:53 Bat-Mobile ...that was entirely unhelpful without units attached.  disregard previous sentence
13:53 Sgt_Lemming Cj1corbystarlet_, I'm aiming for june
13:53 Sgt_Lemming or july
13:53 Cprossu actually come to think of it
13:53 Sgt_Lemming fuck going there in winter :-P
13:54 Cj1corbystarlet_ thats why oct/nov !
13:54 Cj1corbystarlet_ I have F*ing cold
13:54 Sgt_Lemming ...
13:54 Cprossu Captain_: to run multiple headsets, just put a mixer on the mics and T the outputs
13:54 Cprossu that seems simple enough
13:54 Sgt_Lemming you realise that oct/nov is start of winter there?
13:54 Cprossu at least if it's voice activated
13:54 Cj1corbystarlet_ Ahh shit
13:55 Cj1corbystarlet_ anyhow i wanna see snow
13:55 Sgt_Lemming lol
13:55 Coderjoe another interesting place to look for electronics stuff in GR: T&W Electronics on division
13:55 Coderjoe they have a bunch of odd adapters and stuff
13:55 Cj1corbystarlet_ i could go sooner, if your interedsted
13:55 Sgt_Lemming might be interesting to head over at the same time
13:55 Cj1corbystarlet_ yeah
13:56 Sgt_Lemming head over in say late july?
13:56 Cj1corbystarlet_ yeah could be dooable
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13:57 Cj1corbystarlet_ I gotta go Qantas tho, got freequent flyer points to burn
13:57 Sgt_Lemming heh
13:57 Sgt_Lemming I might do the same
13:57 Sgt_Lemming good old quaint ass
13:58 Cprossu but messing with mumble, I guess it doesn't like to dual client
13:58 Cj1corbystarlet_ like here there and back for $0.00
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14:00 Sgt_Lemming ouch, qantas from brisbane to detroit...
14:00 Sgt_Lemming $3152
14:00 Captain_ you're travelling just about as far as you possibly CAN and stay on this planet, that's not a bad price.
14:03 Cj1corbystarlet_ I'm lucky my airfare is covered, but i'd have to pay to fly to bris
14:04 Cj1corbystarlet_ but i can go out of perth via hongkong then to detroit, then a commuter airline to GR
14:05 Cj1corbystarlet_ something like 26 hours flying
14:05 Bat-Mobile Sgt_Lemming: it's 15000 km Brisbane to Detroit (a third of the way around the planet)
14:05 Bat-Mobile That's $1 every 5km
14:05 MoxieMike wow
14:05 Cj1corbystarlet_ plus carbon tax :(
14:06 Bat-Mobile Well yes
14:06 Bat-Mobile there's that
14:06 Bat-Mobile Still, it's kind of mind-blowing
14:06 Bat-Mobile ...
14:06 Bat-Mobile actually
14:06 Bat-Mobile .wa distance from brisbane to Detroit
14:06 BotSteve distance->from->Brisbane, Queensland, Australia, to->Detroit, Michigan;9157 miles;14736 km  (kilometers);1.474&times;10^7 meters;7957 nmi  (nautical miles);aircraft  (550 mph)->16 hours  40 minutes, sound->12 hours, light in fiber->68.9 ms  (milliseconds), light in vacuum->49.2 ms  (milliseconds), (assuming constant-speed great-circle path);0.368 ~~ 1 \/ 3
14:07 Bat-Mobile 14736.  Holy cow I was within 300km
14:08 Cj1corbystarlet_ gettin rusty there
14:08 Cj1corbystarlet_ :)
14:08 MoxieMike that's a fun command for botsteve
14:08 Bat-Mobile /kick Cj1corbystarlet_
14:08 Bat-Mobile (:
14:08 Sgt_Lemming .wa speed of sound in water
14:08 BotSteve water->speed of sound->temperature->20 &deg;C  (degrees Celsius), pressure->1 atm  (atmosphere);3316 mph  (miles per hour);5336 km\/h  (kilometers per hour);1.482 km\/s  (kilometers per second);1482 m\/s  (meters per second);88.94 km\/min  (kilometers per minute);0.9211 mi\/s  (miles per second); ~~ 4.3 &times; speed of sound in dry air at 20 &deg;C and 1 atmosphere pressure (~~ 343 m\/s ); ~~ 4.4 &times; speed of sound
14:08 Bat-Mobile MoxieMike: .wa queries wolfram alpha
14:09 Cj1corbystarlet_ actually
14:09 mikemol k.
14:09 MoxieMike that's even cooler
14:09 mikemol Spreadsheet cleaned up some.
14:09 Cj1corbystarlet_ .wa distance from perth to Detroit
14:09 BotSteve distance->from->Perth, Western Australia, Australia, to->Detroit, Michigan;11175 miles;17984 km  (kilometers);1.798&times;10^7 meters;9710 nmi  (nautical miles);aircraft  (550 mph)->20 hours  20 minutes, sound->14 hours  40 minutes, light in fiber->84 ms  (milliseconds), light in vacuum->60 ms  (milliseconds), (assuming constant-speed great-circle path);0.449 ~~ 1 \/ 2
14:09 Cprossu .wa 4320Sv/hr to REM/hr
14:09 BotSteve convert 4320 Sv\/hr  (sieverts per hour) to REMs per hour;432000 rem\/hr  (REMs per hour);1.2 Gy\/s  (grays per second);0.0012 kGy\/s  (kilograys per second); ~~ 1&times;10^13 &times; absorbed dose rate for a typical person (70kg) from potassium-40 in a typical banana (~~ 1&times;10^-13 Gy\/s );rate of absorbed dose of ionizing radiation;[length]^2 [time]^(-3)
14:09 Cj1corbystarlet_ yep longer
14:10 Cprossu it sure formatted it weirdly
14:11 Cprossu SV\/hr?!?!
14:11 Bat-Mobile Cprossu: that's because it's scraping the well-formatted Wolfram Alpha site rather than paying for API access
14:11 MoxieMike is now known as MoxieMike-away
14:11 Cprossu ahhh ok
14:11 Bat-Mobile sssshhhh, don't tell
14:11 Cprossu still that's an aweful alot of rem/hr lol
14:12 Cprossu maybe I meant 4,230mSv
14:12 Cprossu (checks)
14:13 mtearle Cj1corbystarlet_, you've probably not factored in time in airport land, and that special loving time aliens get to spend with the TSA ...
14:14 asnopus Ew TSA
14:14 Sgt_Lemming yeah
14:14 Sgt_Lemming not looking forward to that part of it
14:14 Sgt_Lemming particularly seeing as I plan on brining my mountain bike with me
14:14 Cj1corbystarlet_ Oh year its a good 1.5 days each way
14:15 asnopus in aus they're working on a version that just indicated areas of concern instead of showing the full on nuddy pics
14:16 Cj1corbystarlet_ WTF  is TSA?
14:16 Bat-Mobile .w tsa
14:16 BotSteve "The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) is an agency of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security responsible for the safety and security of the travelling public in the United States." -
14:16 Cprossu the assholes at security
14:16 Cprossu who give the illusion of security
14:16 Cprossu by harassing people
14:17 Cj1corbystarlet_ ahh ok  drop and bend over stuff?
14:17 Sgt_Lemming oh yes
14:17 asnopus Perverts R us should be their slogan
14:17 Sgt_Lemming and they are famous for reacting badly to technical shit they don't recognise
14:18 Sgt_Lemming like the case of the guy with a home made battery pack and a metal water bottle
14:18 Cprossu like the macbook air for an expample
14:18 Cj1corbystarlet_ ohh and i was going to bring a bag of gadgets
14:18 * Bat-Mobile is at work at the airport right now, and just became really glad he's proxying this channel through SSH to his home computer
14:18 Sgt_Lemming they held him for 6 hours over it
14:18 Sgt_Lemming heh Bat-Mobile
14:18 Cprossu they held a guy with a macbook air for 6 hours because they couldn't belive it didn't have a hard disk
14:18 Sgt_Lemming yeah
14:19 Cprossu they harassed strip searched a 5 year old girl once too
14:19 * Sgt_Lemming nods
14:19 Cprossu and they took apart one guy's wheelchair too
14:19 Cj1corbystarlet_ so where should i put my Glock ?
14:20 Sgt_Lemming in your belt, they won't notice it
14:20 Bat-Mobile "Not making our news broadcast tonight, thousands of people passed through TSA checkpoints without any problem whatsoever"
14:20 Cprossu in a holster across your chest, make sure the holester is bright yellow lol
14:20 dagnyscott in a bag that also has some very long scissors
14:20 dagnyscott worked for my dad
14:20 Sgt_Lemming Bat-Mobile, sure
14:20 Sgt_Lemming but the cases they fuck up, they fuck up EPICALLY
14:21 Cprossu Bat-Mobile: plenty of people do, including the ones who would do harm
14:21 Bat-Mobile I have no great love for the TSA, it's just that people only remember the special case
14:21 Cprossu and those who are serious will just work for the airport anyway
14:21 * Sgt_Lemming nods
14:21 mikemol I once accidentally took a bullet with me from ATL to CHI on a Delta flight.
14:21 mikemol Just the ball, not a full cartridge.
14:21 dagnyscott they have some fuck-ups, but I don't like calling it a fuck-up when you inspect old people, kids, nuns, whatever
14:21 * Bat-Mobile gasps
14:21 Bat-Mobile A BULLET
14:21 Sgt_Lemming a bullet isn't much to worry about
14:21 Bat-Mobile YOU TERRORIST
14:21 Bat-Mobile (:
14:22 mikemol They still would have freaked if they noticed it.
14:22 Sgt_Lemming Adam Savage getting on with 2 12" razor blades is a bit worrying
14:22 dagnyscott if you know they don't inspect someone (by group_, that's a surefire way to get by them
14:22 Cprossu I scewed up and brought my leatherman surge with me
14:22 asnopus wut
14:22 Cprossu they didn't catch that
14:23 Sgt_Lemming most retarded one I've had with flying was that I had to check my bike lock in as checked baggage
14:23 Sgt_Lemming as I could use it to lock someone up apparently
14:23 Sgt_Lemming never mind the fact that it's 20mm round as inflexible as all god damm
14:23 Sgt_Lemming and*
14:23 Cprossu I had a backpack full of computer parts, and they made my dispose of my sealed 16.9oz water bottle
14:23 asnopus whacking someone over the head with it would do some serious damage
14:24 Sgt_Lemming asnopus, getting enough speed up with it to do any serious damage would be rather hard
14:24 mikemol Cprossu: Hehe. On that ATL->CHI flight, I was carrying a duffel bag packed full of electronic parts. I had to split it across five trays to get it through the scanner.
14:24 Sgt_Lemming lol
14:25 mikemol The bullet was still in the duffel bag along with a crapload of coins. That's probably why they didn't notice it.
14:25 Cprossu I usually have to use 7 trays
14:25 Bat-Mobile Wow.  y'all travel heavy...
14:26 Cprossu 1 for shoes/belt, 1 for jacket, 4 for laptops (3 laptops), one for misc junk that I know they'll rerun the bag for
14:26 Cprossu oh last time
14:26 * mtearle regrets mentioning the TSA ...
14:26 Cprossu they got horsey with me for my steel toe shoes
14:26 Cprossu I forgot about that
14:27 Sgt_Lemming oh yeah
14:27 * mtearle points to the bikeshed sitting in the distance ....
14:27 mikemol Cprossu: I was bringing a bunch of electronic crap back from my brother.
14:27 Sgt_Lemming don't try and wearing riding cleats into the plane :-P
14:27 mikemol Actually, some of those headphones I donated were on that flight with me.
14:27 mikemol And probably some other stuff.
14:27 Bat-Mobile mtearle: I think green is an excellent color for that bikeshed
14:28 mikemol Bat-Mobile: Normally, when I travel, I only take one bag, and it will have my laptop and necessary support gear plus two full changes of clothes.
14:28 mtearle I much prefer them to be painted with RoadRunner style red and white targets ...
14:29 Cj1corbystarlet_ i spent a week on a airforce base brassing up the place then had to walk to the otherside of the airport to board a civilian flight home, me and my bags tested for explosives,  that took some talking
14:29 Cprossu the amount of clothes I take is fully dependent on what kind of protection the gear I put in check in bags needs
14:29 mtearle Cj1corbystarlet_, canberra?
14:30 mikemol Though I gave that backpack to my teenage cousin while in GA, in exchange for that duffel. She was carrying too much weight in books in a bag not designed to keep her from throwing out her back...
14:30 Cj1corbystarlet_ nah this was Exmouth,  north of WA  not Fairbourne
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14:31 * mtearle nods
14:32 mtearle yeah, up north the airports really are cunningly disguised airbases half the time ...
14:32 mikemol I set that spreadsheet of local computer and electronics stores to public-but-view-only. If anyone wants edit access, PM me.
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14:34 Bat-Mobile mikemol: the link and I'll put it in the topic
14:35 Cj1corbystarlet_ Sorry the base is Learmonth it is in Exmouth
14:36 mtearle I've only been as far as Geraldton ... must explore further that direction
14:37 Cj1corbystarlet_ Yeah it nice in some place up north,  i fly all over wa for work, so sometimes it gets boring
14:42 eightbitbrad Stupid question: what radio feed are we listening to on the stream?
14:42 Electronics scanner?
14:42 eightbitbrad yeah, sounds like it, I'm just curious
14:42 asnopus Police scanner?
14:43 Electronics hmm
14:43 eightbitbrad Bat-Mobile: Any ideas on what the audio is we're hearing on the feed?  Sounds like a scanner.
14:43 asnopus I thought it would have been encrypted
14:44 Bat-Mobile eightbitbrad: you may not have seen it but I mentioned earlier that I'm at work - I don't have the stream open
14:45 eightbitbrad Bat-Mobile: oh, duh.  Sorry about that.  We're just hearing what sounds like a scanner over the feed
14:45 Bat-Mobile Ah.  there was a forum post about that about a day ago
14:45 eightbitbrad Ah, I missed that.  Every time I load the forums I get a 500 error... ick. heh
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14:46 Bat-Mobile it's something to do with police or emergency services
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14:46 Cj1corbystarlet_ I think its set to the emergency services in the GR region from memory
14:47 Coderjoe it's not just scanning police and fire, but some of the local ham repeaters
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14:47 Bat-Mobile time to go
14:47 Coderjoe I don't know what all it is scanning, though. I'm going off what I have heard it spit out
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14:48 steve______ did batman just sign off?
14:48 VTS-80 Soldering is a PITA when you have to negotiate the iron around a tojn of wires.
14:48 Coderjoe seems that way
14:48 VTS-80 ton*
14:49 Coderjoe we were listening to a repeater just there
14:49 Coderjoe and there it is again
14:49 Coderjoe (ham repeater, that is, as the EMCOM stuff is also from repeaters)
14:50 steve______ yes, it is setup for GRARA and the LRS i believe and a couple more if I remember right
14:51 Coderjoe yeah. i heard w8dc last night, and someone else mentioned wmporn
14:51 wannabe1987 morning
14:51 steve______ don't know if I set wmporn on it but I very well may have
14:51 Coderjoe it isn't listening to IRA?
14:51 steve______ morning wannabe
14:52 wannabe1987 hows school?
14:52 MadManMarkAu 'Evening all
14:52 wannabe1987 evening, my upside down friend
14:52 MadManMarkAu :P
14:52 steve______ the IRA would be LRS
14:52 steve______ the Independent Repeater association runs the Linked reapeater system
14:53 steve______ if I have it correct
14:53 eightbitbrad hiya wannabe1987
14:53 steve______ evening Madman
14:53 wannabe1987 hey brad
14:53 Coderjoe there are at least a couple linked systems, really... w8dc kinda qualifies
14:54 Coderjoe but Abe set up the biggest one I know of
14:54 eightbitbrad Here's what I get to look at when I go to our server dungeon at times:
14:55 Coderjoe IRA, W8IRA/R, previously W8HVG/R
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14:55 Cprossu man those are some old sun boxes
14:55 steve______ Too many systems to keep straight
14:55 asnopus Vintage!
14:56 Cprossu those hp servers on the bottom aren't too new either lol
14:56 Coderjoe hmm
14:56 Cprossu is that AC unit in the back liebert?
14:56 Cj1corbystarlet_ You know they are old when the plastic goes brown
14:57 Cprossu see that dell box to the top right? I hate those damn things lol
14:58 eightbitbrad yep
14:58 eightbitbrad Cprossu: It is a Liebert AC
14:58 eightbitbrad and yeah, there's a lot of old crap down there
14:59 eightbitbrad none of that is production, just test stuff.  I'm not allowed in the production room. lol
14:59 Cprossu haha
15:00 Coderjoe any idea which repeater this is? the net comes from an IRLP reflector
15:00 eightbitbrad There's a couple of Suns, some HPs, an HP Itanium, a bunch of Dells
15:00 Coderjoe is that tied in on w8dc?
15:01 Cprossu I have a special hate for itanium powered rigs
15:02 Cprossu talk about being locked into an unsupported platform
15:02 Cprossu that consumes too much power and costs too much to start with
15:03 eightbitbrad Yeah, really.  I don't touch that thing if I don't have to, trust me.
15:03 Cprossu also we had an easier time sourcing parts for our VAX than that damn thing
15:03 Coderjoe haha
15:03 steve______ not sure about the net, I don't have the stream on
15:04 Cprossu the vax was more reliable too
15:04 Cprossu lol
15:04 Coderjoe Cprossu: I guess that might be because VAX systems were around longer
15:04 Cprossu I mean sourcing the parts direct from the mana
15:04 Cprossu they wanted assloads
15:05 Cprossu for an instance getting replacement fans from the manufacturer was $350/assembly and required 6 months of waiting
15:06 Cprossu I hacked something together with some locally sourced delta fans but you get the point
15:06 Coderjoe score a point or two for using commodity parts instead of proprietary assemblies
15:06 Cprossu don't even ask about real hardware, The psu's cost $2K a piece
15:07 eightbitbrad There are a couple of MicroVAX boxes on the shelf downstairs.
15:07 Cprossu I mean the unit then was a $20,000 piece of fail
15:08 Coderjoe looks like the net is coming in from one of two repeaters:
15:08 Coderjoe N8JPR or K8SN. probably the later
15:09 Cprossu and what we figured was that 4 xeon boxes, even without 64bit or anything cool, would outperform our itanic box every time on our database servers
15:09 Coderjoe itanics would make fairly good DSP systems, with the conditional opcodes and everything
15:09 Cprossu and so began a 2 year project to convert everything we had been forced to put on the itanium box back to x86
15:10 Cprossu but when the branch prediction fails on an itanium
15:10 Cprossu man
15:10 Cprossu it takes a lot of cycles to recover
15:10 Coderjoe there are fewer branches than on x86
15:11 Cprossu well the stack is also hidden on the proc iirc
15:11 Cprossu I don't know who thought that was a good ide
15:11 Cprossu a
15:11 Coderjoe i suppose, if poorly designed, the conditional opcodes would suck...
15:11 Cprossu made programming and debugging certain pieces of softwares hair pulling
15:11 MadManMarkAu I hear movement on the stream
15:12 MadManMarkAu And I know that's the wrong noun :P
15:12 Cprossu you probably also hear concrete cutters making a door
15:12 Cprossu opening
15:12 MadManMarkAu My ears aren't that good
15:12 Coderjoe not really
15:13 Electronics does the door go in today?
15:13 Cprossu ahhh here you go it's all coming back to me
15:13 Cprossu
15:13 Coderjoe oh. there it is, if I turn everything way up
15:13 Cprossu ^here's an example
15:13 Coderjoe but then the scanner is deafening
15:15 steve______ time to walk over to BK for some lunch
15:15 steve______ you have fun here
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15:16 maglinvinn yar
15:18 eightbitbrad ahoy maglinvinn
15:18 maglinvinn whats new guys
15:18 Cprossu Coderjoe: especially when you hear the long beep once in a while
15:18 eightbitbrad not a whole lot...  just listening to the scanner feed on the stream
15:19 eightbitbrad and making fun of my office's test server room
15:19 wannabe1987 hey eakin
15:19 wannabe1987 :D
15:20 Electronics heya
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15:21 Cprossu *clicks the forums for the first time in 2 days to see how it's coming along*
15:22 Coderjoe Cprossu: the long beeps would be fire station toneouts
15:22 Cprossu at least it's running quicker
15:22 Cprossu ahh
15:23 Coderjoe the different tone combinations map to different stations, and monitoring equipment and pagers set for that code then activate
15:23 Cprossu man the profile area being so wide is distracting
15:24 asnopus yer,  simplepress is a bit ew
15:24 Cprossu how many forum systems have we been through since 2000?
15:25 Whisperingwolf 4?
15:26 eightbitbrad I got fed up with the forums after trying to post a response 4 times only to have the forum error on me
15:26 asnopus :/
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15:27 wannabe1987 lol
15:27 wannabe1987 i like phpBB best...cuz i'm most familiar with it..
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15:27 asnopus ditto
15:28 Whisperingwolf I think everyone is familiar with phpbb which is the problem
15:29 asnopus thing is that it needs its own entire directory and pages
15:29 wannabe1987 meaning?
15:29 mikemol BotSteve: tell BatSteve , and that he's looking for _other_ people to take on editor roles. Particularly for the wishlist...
15:29 BotSteve mikemol: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
15:30 Cprossu I actually liked our forums before they put it on phpbb
15:30 asnopus well simplepress is made for wordpress
15:30 Cprossu I forget what we were on before that
15:30 Cprossu but it was kinda weird
15:31 cctoide well, every part of the site can be in a different directory
15:31 cctoide just a question of making mod_rewrite rules
15:31 cctoide which I hope they're already using
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15:32 eightbitbrad Simplepress, while made for Wordpress, seems to have a lot of issues.
15:32 asnopus I'd love to have a crack at its CSS
15:33 wannabe1987 hack it!
15:33 asnopus make it more pleasing to the eye
15:33 cctoide the amount of visual noise is impressive :/
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15:34 cctoide especially the tag list under each thread title
15:35 Rahlon Afternoon/Mourning guys.
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15:35 wannabe1987 nananananananananana BATMAN!
15:35 wannabe1987 hi
15:35 eightbitbrad thebatman has returned
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15:35 wannabe1987 :(
15:36 Electronics lol
15:36 Captain_ NAB is kicking my ass.....
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15:36 Electronics .wa NAB
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15:37 BotSteve National Australia Bank Limited  (NAB);Au$26.26 ($27.61)(NAB->Australian Securities Exchange->April 12, 2011);day->month->YTD->year->5 year, -0.27%->+6.14%->+9.28%->-4.86%->-28.11%;, , alpha->-2.48%, beta->0.190, R^2->0.019
15:37 Electronics I don't think so
15:37 Coderjoe
15:37 Cprossu Captain_: mumble won't let me dual client, so sadly that idea is out the window
15:37 Captain_ National Association of Broadcasters, it's a giant convention in Vegas, it's happening now.
15:37 Coderjoe National Association of Broadcasters
15:37 Electronics ahh
15:37 Cprossu however connecting multiple mics via a mixer to one box
15:37 Cprossu is still in
15:37 Captain_ That's ok, We can still use it, we have a TON of computers, it's cool.
15:37 asnopus Ventrilo allows multiple clients
15:37 Cprossu yeah I know
15:37 mikemol Isn't there an audio channel spec to XMPP?
15:38 Cprossu one reason I use it
15:38 mikemol s/spec/extension/
15:38 Captain_ My problem of the moment is getting a rackmount audio compressor/limiter donated. Trivial if it wertn't for NAB happening. ALL OF MY ENGINEERING FRIENDS are there, lol
15:38 Captain_ Cory, you watching?
15:38 Rahlon Your thinking of setting a vent/teamspeak/mumble up ?
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15:38 Captain_ It'll be Mumble.
15:39 mtearle Cprossu, there's a command line flag ...
15:39 Captain_ Any lab staff on here?
15:39 eightbitbrad Rahlon: Intercom system for video production team communication
15:39 Rahlon Who will have access to it? G2 up?
15:39 Rahlon ahh ok
15:39 cctoide is the weather cam mast going to have to be guyed?
15:39 Cprossu guyed?!
15:39 Captain_ I don't think so, it'll only be 20' above teh roof
15:39 mtearle cctoide, next questions ... will it need a lightning dome on top? :)
15:40 cctoide heh
15:40 Cprossu ahh i c now
15:40 Captain_ no
15:40 cctoide I think the camera itself already has a rod
15:40 mikemol How masculine...
15:40 wannabe1987 i think the only lab staff on here right now is eakin...
15:41 mtearle this is what I had the contractors do at work over 18 months ago ...
15:41 mtearle building is six storeys
15:42 Coderjoe amusing framing of the FCC keynote... the guy has a blue halo from the O in the NABSHOW sign behind him
15:43 asnopus Alright, I'm off. later everyone
15:43 Captain_ Speaking of which, I need ~30 feet of the triangular Rone type tower. I need to Tall Mount it on the roof and put the weather camera on top. 10 feet will be used for mounting, 20 feet or so will be the tower proper.
15:44 Cprossu Captain_: I'm just curious, do you guys have tons/any thin clients laying around?
15:44 Captain_ no, but they could be the shit for the intercom if we could get a bunch.
15:44 Captain_ Perfect solution for that really.
15:44 mikemol I know Spectrum Health uses thin clients all over the place.
15:44 Cprossu the less moving parts the better
15:44 Captain_ Do we have a friend there?
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15:44 mikemol If they do an upgrade cycle, it might be possible to intercept before the old ones hit the dumpster.
15:45 Captain_ I'd like to get about a dozen donated.
15:45 mikemol Hm.
15:45 * mtearle does a metric double take and realises 20 feet is just over 6 metres
15:45 Cprossu get a few more than that for spares/such
15:45 Cprossu also get specs before asking so it can be seen if it's feasible
15:45 * mtearle was thinking it was much longer ...
15:45 dagnyscott There is someone from Spectrum IT in my dad's magic club...
15:46 mikemol I know I know someone who works there in IT, I just don't remember which of the people I know do.
15:46 mikemol Enough people work in their IT department that it's no surprise when you ask a local geek where he works, and he tells you he works there...
15:47 * mikemol will have to trawl his email archives
15:47 Captain_ lol
15:47 mtearle Captain_, suggestion might to poke local theatre/staging higher places ... triangular tower is very similar to truss (allthough different weight charateristics though)
15:47 Captain_ Truss is a LOT stronger than tower, but doesn't have the weatherproofing.
15:47 dagnyscott The only other guy I know there is my ex-boyfriend.
15:47 dagnyscott So, meh.
15:47 mikemol Can weatherproofing be applied afterword?
15:48 mikemol *ward
15:48 Captain_ yes
15:48 Captain_ It's a very high-tech solution called "Paint".
15:48 Coderjoe speaking of grass valley... NABLive stream currently is asking the GV booth about their new stuff
15:49 mikemol Does GG have official colors? :)
15:49 Captain_ yes
15:49 Coderjoe heh. and now an interview with the CEO of GV
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15:52 mtearle interim solution?  haven't tried it ...
15:53 Cprossu I would try total recorder first
15:53 Cprossu I think it can do compression
15:53 Cprossu I just don't remember
15:55 Whisperingwolf Huh I've obviously been under a rock I didn't know there was a new version of HTML out
15:55 thegenius2k9 html5?
15:56 Cprossu html6
15:56 thegenius2k9 or html6 and css4
15:56 Electronics html6?
15:56 thegenius2k9 that one...
15:56 thegenius2k9 yz
15:56 thegenius2k9 ya
15:56 thegenius2k9 it got announced
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15:57 Cprossu weird I missed that too
15:57 Cprossu sure it's not a joke?
15:57 mikemol Captain_: I've got a Google Docs spreadsheet set up for tracking computer and electronics sources, and there's a tab for wishlist so that people can see a kind of inventory of needs. I need non-me editors, though.
15:57 mikemol;hl=en
15:58 thegenius2k9 and was april fools joke...
15:58 thegenius2k9 of 2010
15:58 mikemol I can add edit rights to whoever asks; it's more a matter of needing to be able to drop vandals than restrict positive contributions.
15:58 Cprossu good just making sure
15:58 thebatman Cprossu: any luck on the GVG panel?
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15:59 Cprossu none whatsoever.. I can't find manuals for anything older than like ~2000 anyway
15:59 IIsi50MHz For which?
15:59 Cprossu who was it that sent in a pic of the unit to GVG itself?
16:00 Cprossu a gvg video switcher we've been trying to find lit on
16:00 steve_____ I have sent an email to GVG regarding it
16:00 mikemol Hm.
16:00 * mikemol is going to set up a forum thread for that spreadsheet.
16:00 thebatman i will look through boxes of manuals real soon here
16:00 Cprossu steve_____: anything yet?
16:00 steve_____ they couldn't see the linked image so I replyed wiht it embbeded
16:00 Cprossu ahh
16:00 steve_____ that was last night
16:01 steve_____ I have not recieved a reply today yet
16:01 steve_____ first reply came in at 7:00 est
16:01 IIsi50MHz That's a lot of underscoring. In fact, that's more of an underscour!
16:01 steve_____ last night so I hope this evening I will get a response
16:01 thegenius2k9
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16:02 Cprossu Captain_: if you do a captains blog today, light the piss outa the rack unit and get us some video of it and the rack unit
16:02 steve_____ last night I pulled an reseated all the cards in the unit
16:03 Cprossu I really like the qual of that camera you use lol
16:03 steve_____ other than module #s there is no model # or serial
16:03 Whisperingwolf I hate looking for jobs you have to page through about a page of company crap before getting to the stuff you really want to read
16:03 Cprossu any mechanical relays in the unit?
16:03 steve_____ yes, I belive they are dry contacts for tally lights
16:04 mikemol
16:04 IIsi50MHz I sympahise, Whisperingwolf
16:05 Cprossu hrmm
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16:05 steve_____ you can hear the relays click when switching inputs
16:05 Cprossu so all I can say is that theres something very simple that is wrong here
16:06 steve_____ I assume so
16:06 Cprossu whether it be a button that needs to be pressed, procedure, or a failed connection somewhere
16:06 olly_ how do i walk up to a house and knock the door?
16:06 thegenius2k9 ..
16:07 steve_____ yes, we are short BNC cables to hook stuff up so I have been using an odd assortment of cables
16:07 Whisperingwolf And there goes another resume winging away into the great beyond never to be heard from again
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16:08 Cprossu Comcast Cable Communications, Inc. JUMPSTART-5 (NET-98-192-0-0-1) -
16:08 Cprossu Comcast Cable Communications, Inc. PENNSYLVANIA-24 (NET-98-239-128-0-1) -
16:08 Cprossu Request:
16:08 steve_____ I need someone in the lab to ID the coax stock so I can lookup connectors
16:08 Whisperingwolf crap I'm really bitter about this whole thing....well it's only been 11 months
16:09 steve_____ I asked Captain this morning so hopefully he will make it happen
16:09 MadManMarkAu Someone be a-creepin' in the Masster Control area
16:09 Whisperingwolf creepers going ta creep
16:10 cctoide are we getting trolled? :|
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16:10 steve_____ if you duck or go around the backside you can get past the camera unseen
16:10 Coderjoe I kinda like these, though I haven't used the BNC variety yet:
16:10 Coderjoe I have used the RCA ones
16:10 steve_____ compresission connectors are nice
16:11 steve_____ but expensive
16:11 thegenius2k9 creepers creepin
16:11 Whisperingwolf crap I knew I should of stuck with web design 45-48 dollars a hour for that job posting
16:11 mikemol I've got some F-type compression connectors I can bring in on Sat.
16:12 mikemol I don't need them...
16:12 Coderjoe I have those BNC compression connectors, RCAs, and I think I have F as well
16:12 steve_____ the big thing is having the right connector for the coax type
16:12 mikemol I'm only tooled for RG-6.
16:12 Coderjoe i have both 59 and 6
16:14 mikemol Coderjoe: Have you set up a forum account yet?
16:14 steve_____ I have access to tools for 58 & 59
16:14 Coderjoe no
16:14 * IIsi50MHz scrolls up
16:14 Cprossu you think you win?
16:14 Cprossu nahhhhhhhh
16:14 thegenius2k9 SOMEONES THERE >.>
16:14 MadManMarkAu movement
16:14 cctoide 3rd act of the bouncing clock show
16:14 mikemol Coderjoe: You'll eventually need to. It's the front face of their SSO.
16:15 Whisperingwolf ok you stupid job site what is the point of posting my resume just so I can type it all in again for the third time?
16:15 IIsi50MHz Woah, BNC cables? I haven't heard mention of BNC anything since 1997.
16:15 Cprossu he found the manual?!
16:15 mikemol IIsi50MHz: It's just a connector type.
16:16 SparkyProjects BNC = Bayonet nut coupling
16:16 Coderjoe broadcast video uses BNC a lot
16:16 mikemol I think Computers & More in Holland has a crapload of misc BNC stuff. I don't know exactly what they've got, though.
16:16 steve_____ accually it's Bayonet Neill-Concelman
16:16 steve_____ neill and concelman developing the connector
16:17 steve_____ TNC is threaded Neill-Concelman
16:17 steve_____ N connectors were develeped by neill
16:17 thaery I always heard it was "British Nval Connector"
16:17 mtearle just thinking about the GVG unit ... does it need a reference signal for the sync/clock to do the input changing?
16:17 thaery "Naval"
16:17 mikemol Last time I tried looking it up, Wikipedia couldn't agree with itself.
16:17 steve_____ yes, there is a lot of backranyms
16:18 steve_____ yes the GVG uses a sync
16:18 Cprossu oh yeah the old bell labs thing
16:18 thegenius2k9 that bouncing clock is getting on my nerves...
16:18 Cprossu that was a mess and 1/2
16:18 steve_____ it is being fet into the sync in
16:18 SparkyProjects OK on the correction, we always referred to them as nut coupling, sounds better :D
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16:19 Coderjoe I heard it as Bayonet Nut Connector
16:19 steve_____ if you just call them BNC everyone agrees on that much
16:19 steve_____ batman, that you?
16:19 thebatman I have found a manual for our GVG routing panel and for our vectorscope!!!
16:19 Cprossu I thought I heard that
16:19 steve_____ in the boxes
16:19 Cprossu does the gvg manual have a model?
16:19 steve_____ of stuff
16:19 thebatman yup
16:19 steve_____ and it is...
16:20 steve_____ drumroll
16:20 cctoide rosebud?
16:20 thegenius2k9 *drumroll*
16:20 thebatman the routing box is the 400 series... i dont have it for the actually switching panel just for the routing box but it is still progress!
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16:20 mikemol *rimshot* *applause*
16:20 Cprossu the routing box is fine
16:20 Cprossu holy crap it is a 400
16:20 steve_____ the roughting box is an entirly diff unit
16:21 thebatman Its GVG 400 series
16:21 Cprossu still it's good to know
16:21 IIsi50MHz Last I came across "BNC connector" there was seemingly eternal argument about whether it was "British Naval Connector", meaningless letters, or something else.
16:21 Cprossu that switcher we have is so freaking weird though
16:21 IIsi50MHz Guess somethings don't change.
16:21 mikemol This sounds like a job for...acrophobia!
16:21 steve_____ so the router not being used, 2 ru, is a 400 series
16:21 Cprossu I wonder if it was in a newsvan lol
16:22 steve_____ it very well may have been
16:22 Coderjoe the control panel and the rack talk with a serial protocol, from what I could find last night
16:22 thebatman it appea5s so
16:22 Cprossu so it's a routing switcher
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16:22 SparkyProjects Anyway, i prefer soldered conectors, you don't need a special crimper for each type, just a soldering iron, and that goes for pl 259 and so 239's etc
16:22 steve_____ the control surface and rack are conneced via 3 apx 50 pin connectrs
16:23 steve_____ so I doubt that is serial
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16:23 steve_____ the router may eb though
16:23 Cprossu
16:23 Cprossu does the back of ours look like any of these?
16:24 Coderjoe i don't think so
16:24 Cprossu neither did I
16:24 mikemol No, it was a bit more squarish in form-factor.
16:24 * mikemol carried it.
16:25 Cprossu this is the router/rack unit
16:25 Coderjoe those look like routing swichers, not vision mixer racks
16:25 Cprossu parts
16:25 Coderjoe mikemol: the vision mixer is a 2-part thing. a squareish control panel and a rack unit with all the signal processing
16:25 Coderjoe a little 3u rack unit
16:26 steve_____ I have seen the 3u rack, I think but I don't know about the control
16:26 mikemol Huh
16:26 Coderjoe the control being the panel in the console with the Tbars
16:26 Coderjoe and buttons and stuff
16:27 * mikemol had another idea for streaming video output source.
16:27 steve_____ that is the production switcher not a matrix unit
16:27 mikemol Are any of the TV stations within point-to-point range of LStL?
16:27 steve_____ it has a 6 rack with it
16:27 steve_____ woodtv is on heritage hill
16:27 Coderjoe was it really? I thought it was only 3
16:27 steve_____ I don't know the other ones
16:28 steve_____ it's 5-6 RU
16:28 mikemol I wonder if they might take a shine to funneling streaming video, with an eye towards being able to tee off and use source footage in their own productions.
16:28 Cprossu bad idea x_x
16:29 steve_____ the only stream they might have interest would be the weather cam
16:29 steve_____ but they have thers around
16:29 wannabe1987 yeah
16:29 wannabe1987 weather ball!
16:30 steve_____ no, we can't see that from the lab
16:30 wannabe1987 maybe from 20 feet above it...
16:30 steve_____ thats northside
16:30 MadManMarkAu LOL
16:30 MadManMarkAu windows chimes sound
16:30 steve_____ too many taller buildings in between
16:30 Coderjoe more like AIM sounds
16:30 steve_____ from Bridge water you could
16:30 Coderjoe I have heard that many times on one of the police repeaters
16:30 wannabe1987 steve - weatherball is at I96 and alpine ...i wee it from meijer
16:31 Cprossu well, good luck figuring this mess out lol
16:31 steve_____ I htough it was more north
16:31 wannabe1987 nope
16:31 steve_____ I agree it's 96 and alpine though
16:31 Cprossu I totally didn't notice when batman left either
16:31 wannabe1987 whats the linky for the livestream?  i forgot it.
16:32 Cprossu long, that's what
16:32 Coderjoe I think it is in the topic (shortened)
16:32 Coderjoe yeap. first link
16:32 wannabe1987 ok?  and i cannot see the topic...
16:32 Coderjoe type /topic
16:32 wannabe1987 uless i scroll WAY up...
16:32 mikemol wannabe1987: Type /topic
16:33 wannabe1987 i did...not enough parameters
16:33 Coderjoe add the channel name
16:33 wannabe1987 ok.
16:33 steve_____ ok that is just north of the lab
16:33 wannabe1987 yeah
16:33 wannabe1987 its near where i live :D
16:33 wannabe1987 (by the lab)
16:35 steve_____ does anyone know the plan for getting the tower sections?
16:36 steve_____ they are out in allendale from my understanding
16:37 steve_____ I know Captain want to mount in along one of the steps in roof hight
16:37 wannabe1987 probably with a truck or trailer or something, no?
16:38 steve_____ it is most likely 10ft sections
16:38 steve_____ so a pickup could get them if strapped in
16:38 wannabe1987 or use the box truck
16:38 steve_____ or the truck
16:38 wannabe1987 dante, i believe
16:38 steve_____ dante's inferno?
16:38 Coderjoe IRA is also going to be replacing the top of their tower at the 92nd st site (main site)
16:38 wannabe1987 the stream is boring...all i see is a clock
16:38 steve_____ :)
16:38 wannabe1987 dante = box truck
16:39 wannabe1987 and no, i don't have the volume up, i'm in a public place...who knows what they'll say!
16:39 steve_____ no I got that, the gas tank leaks a but
16:39 wannabe1987 yes.  i know
16:39 steve_____ hence Dante's infernno
16:39 wannabe1987 it sucks :P
16:39 Coderjoe
16:39 wannabe1987 annnn
16:39 wannabe1987 ahhhhh*
16:39 mikemol Well, I need to get some real work done today.
16:39 * mikemol is elsewhere.
16:39 wannabe1987 what!  blasphemy!
16:39 wannabe1987 no real work is EVER done.
16:39 wannabe1987 bye mikemol
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16:40 steve_____ that page has been up on IRA for a while, don't know id it's current
16:42 steve_____ we should also concider guying on that tower section as that camera is rather heavy
16:43 wannabe1987 guying?
16:43 Coderjoe last modification: Monday, February 21, 2011 8:57:10 PM
16:43 Coderjoe wannabe1987: support cables
16:43 wannabe1987 thanks coderjoe
16:43 Coderjoe also known as guy wires/cables
16:43 steve_____ cables from the tower out to other posts, it takes the side loading on the tower
16:43 steve_____ from wind and stuff hanging off the side
16:44 wannabe1987 no offence but coderjoes' makes more sense than yours does...
16:44 steve_____ ya, same thing
16:44 wannabe1987 i know...but his makes more sense..yours has "side loading" which is somethng else i don't understand :P
16:44 steve_____ sorry engineering student
16:45 steve_____ I think a bit different at times
16:45 wannabe1987 yeah...i was in music when i attended college for a year
16:46 mtearle it's all moments about a point
16:46 wannabe1987 so the vast majority of whats said HERE makes absolutely NO SENSE at all :D
16:47 steve_____ yes it's al about the moments
16:47 * eightbitbrad watches the hypnotic clock on the stream  "yessss Master...  all time in UTC now... as you wishhhhhh"
16:47 steve_____ you want them to sum to zero
16:47 steve_____ it seems we have lost wannabe
16:47 mikemol Heh
16:48 wannabe1987 i've been lost for A VERY LONG TIME
16:48 mikemol "moments" => moment arm.
16:48 wannabe1987 sometimes i minimize you
16:48 mikemol A way of measuring torque, which is a way of measuring force.
16:48 wannabe1987 and go other place
16:48 wannabe1987 then i get bored
16:48 wannabe1987 and wander back :D
16:49 wannabe1987 right now i'm waiting for the house inspector/appraisal guy to come...
16:49 mikemol Rotational systems are weird. :)
16:49 steve_____ basicly a torque, you can't want them so you add cable to pull in the opposite direction and make them go away
16:49 wannabe1987 then i can leave
16:49 SparkyProjects Side loading aka wind loading, if you stick something up in the air the wind will try to push it over, guy wires prevent this.
16:49 wannabe1987 OMG  someone understands me!
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16:49 wannabe1987 thanks sparkyprojects
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16:50 steve_____ maybe I shouldn't talk in tems of the forces
16:50 steve_____ *terms
16:50 SparkyProjects May the force be with you :D
16:51 wannabe1987 i love THAT force
16:51 steve_____ M*A?
16:51 mikemol *S*H
16:51 mikemol In early morning light I see...visions of the things to be...
16:51 steve_____ mass* accel = force, what is S & H
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16:52 mikemol .imdb M*A*S*H
16:52 wannabe1987 M*A*S*H a tv show
16:52 steve_____ ahh
16:52 wannabe1987 omg i've never seen it but i still know
16:52 steve_____ sorry missed that
16:53 Linus no one there !?
16:53 mikemol Was a movie first.
16:53 mikemol Having a hard time finding it on IMDB, though.
16:53 Linus ok
16:53 mikemol Though, curiously,
16:53 Coderjoe leave off the *
16:53 wannabe1987 lol
16:53 Coderjoe those are stylistic logo items
16:54 Coderjoe hmm
16:54 Coderjoe the movie was just MASH, apparently, while the tv show was actually M*A*S*H
16:54 mikemol
16:54 mikemol Found it.
16:54 mikemol :)
16:54 Coderjoe TV: movie:
16:55 mikemol The lyrics for the TV series' song can be heard in the movie.
16:55 steve_____ wow, this has sidetracked quickly
16:55 Whisperingwolf it always does
16:56 Coderjoe welcome to the all-tangent hour
16:56 steve_____ it's all normal
16:56 mikemol Convenient thing about tangents...Once they're moving, you don't need to consider them in a rotational frame. :)
16:58 steve_____ I'm dissapointed, I make a bad pun and no comment
16:58 wannabe1987 huh?
16:58 wannabe1987 i probably didn't understand it...
16:59 steve_____ "it's all normal" normal is another term for tanget
16:59 wannabe1987 see?
16:59 Linus
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17:00 speedrunnerg55_ hi geeks
17:00 steve_____ 'ello
17:01 speedrunnerg55_ the live stream yesterday was funney
17:01 steve_____ what part?
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17:02 Geek101 hi
17:02 IIsi50MHz I've found that my oldest monitor will do 1024x768 at 65 Hz...but only when it's already warmed up at a lower refresh.
17:02 steve_____ 'ello
17:02 IIsi50MHz Man, I need another job. So I can replace this crap. [-:
17:02 steve_____ intersting
17:03 IIsi50MHz Presario 1525, 15"
17:03 Whisperingwolf alright nothing happening back to minecraft
17:03 IIsi50MHz with JBL Pro speakers that hang on the sides.
17:03 wannabe1987 lol
17:03 IIsi50MHz I still haven't dived into Minecraft
17:04 speedrunnerg55_ the whole part
17:04 Whisperingwolf well if you get addicted easlily  I suggest you dont
17:04 steve_____ neither have I, I have heard it's addictive, and I don't have the time
17:04 IIsi50MHz If I take the speakers off, the back is so heavy that sometimes the swivel mount suddenly slides to "front is fully elevated" position.
17:04 speedrunnerg55_ is there a minecraft server?
17:04 IIsi50MHz Many.
17:04 speedrunnerg55_ is there a tgg server?
17:05 Whisperingwolf yes I think so
17:05 IIsi50MHz Hmm, usually in the /topic but I don't see it.
17:05 eightbitbrad speedrunnerg55_: Someone's running a TGG minecraft server, I forget who though.  Check the forums.
17:05 steve_____ look for it in the forums, I know there was a post
17:05 eightbitbrad Someone needs to add that info to BotSteve
17:06 eightbitbrad maybe a .serverlist or something
17:06 tesla4d .minecraft
17:06 BotSteve The 'official' TGG minecraft server address is: **** tesla4d also hosts a roleplay-oriented server at
17:07 tesla4d You're welcome.
17:07 Whisperingwolf I'm on server right now
17:09 eightbitbrad .help
17:09 wannabe1987 no help for yoU!
17:09 tesla4d I think I'm going to be shutting down my server soon.
17:10 steve_____ good new everyone!
17:10 steve_____ GVG just got back with me
17:10 steve_____ *drum roll*
17:10 wannabe1987 gvg?
17:10 steve_____ this might be a model 16001L Switcher
17:11 steve_____ Grass Valley Group
17:11 steve_____ the manufacturer of the production switch in the Master control
17:11 steve_____ 25+ years old
17:11 wannabe1987 ok go on
17:12 steve_____ spoke with some of the guys who have been around long enough to remember this and from what we can tell, this might be a model 16001L Switcher.  Maybe about 25 years old and long out of support by Grass Valley but there is a company (Largent Video) that has been supporting most of the older Grass Valley products that are out of production.  Bill Gillice over there is the owner (Phone 530-274-8473).  He used to have a web s
17:12 steve_____ information that may help:  The user must apply external composite sync, composite blanking and subcarrier as reference signals before the internal background generator (and other parts) will work.  This was before the days of locking to reference sync.
17:12 steve_____ it looks like I need more sync signals before it will come online
17:12 steve_____ I will post that in the forum as well
17:15 speedrunnerg55_ i thought was nuked
17:15 speedrunnerg55_ idk
17:16 speedrunnerg55_ .give me a sandwich
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17:16 wannabe1987 no
17:16 wannabe1987 hi
17:16 speedrunnerg55_ common botsteve cant you spare a sandwich?
17:16 thegenius2k9 .barrow speedrunnerg55's sandwich
17:16 steve_____ . sudo give me a sandwich
17:16 wannabe1987 borrow*
17:17 thegenius2k9 yea...
17:17 thegenius2k9 i was getting to that
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17:17 speedrunnerg55_ sudo ftw
17:17 steve_____ opps extra space
17:17 thegenius2k9 sudo apt-get install sandwich
17:17 speedrunnerg55_ LOL
17:17 wannabe1987 genius...can't spell :P
17:17 steve_____ .sudo make me a sandwich
17:17 eightbitbrad hrm
17:17 eightbitbrad sudo pacman -S sandwich
17:17 wannabe1987 what kind of bread?
17:18 steve_____ sourdough
17:18 wannabe1987 aint got that shit
17:18 thegenius2k9 sudo aptitude install sandwich-maker
17:18 thegenius2k9 now ya do
17:18 Roly [ sudo ] password for root:
17:18 wannabe1987 no, now i'm lost
17:18 thegenius2k9 toor
17:18 speedrunnerg55_ password
17:19 Coderjoe god
17:19 Coderjoe love
17:19 Coderjoe sex
17:19 thegenius2k9 root
17:19 Coderjoe secret
17:19 wannabe1987 boden
17:19 speedrunnerg55_ Password
17:19 thegenius2k9 nedob
17:19 speedrunnerg55_ admin
17:19 speedrunnerg55_ Admin
17:20 wannabe1987 yourmommy
17:20 steve_____ 42
17:20 eightbitbrad 12345
17:20 speedrunnerg55_ 0987654321
17:20 thegenius2k9 loverdude
17:20 wannabe1987 0987564321
17:20 steve_____ lifetheuniverseandeverything
17:20 eightbitbrad 0118 999 88199 9119 725 4
17:20 speedrunnerg55_ (. ) ( .)
17:20 eightbitbrad errr 3
17:20 wannabe1987 lol
17:20 thegenius2k9 am i right?
17:20 thegenius2k9 if so kthxbye
17:21 thegenius2k9 ERROR: Invalid Authentication
17:21 speedrunnerg55_ darbn
17:22 speedrunnerg55_ darn
17:22 Coderjoe ENOAUTH
17:22 speedrunnerg55_ poop
17:22 speedrunnerg55_ chees
17:22 speedrunnerg55_ omni
17:22 wannabe1987 dictionary!
17:22 speedrunnerg55_ omni the wonder dog
17:22 wannabe1987 omni dog!
17:22 wannabe1987 i love omni
17:22 thegenius2k9 root@toor ~:
17:23 eightbitbrad Someone needs to get Batman a kitty and call it Batcat.
17:23 eightbitbrad heh
17:23 thegenius2k9 root@toor ~: cd /; rm -rf *; echo lol...;
17:23 Roly and give it red bull so it grows wings!
17:24 wannabe1987 lol
17:24 thegenius2k9 lol...
17:24 wannabe1987 eioghtbitbrad - thands for thenew status...
17:25 eightbitbrad ?
17:25 speedrunnerg55_ so what did they acpmolish in the live stream
17:25 thegenius2k9 [ sudo ] password for root
17:26 speedrunnerg55_ sandwich
17:26 wannabe1987 " Someone needs to get Batman a kitty and call it Batcat."  that
17:26 speedrunnerg55_ matress
17:26 eightbitbrad oh.. hehe
17:26 thegenius2k9 ERROR: lame password accepted
17:26 tesla4d Don't need red bull for that.
17:26 tesla4d
17:26 eightbitbrad Well he did ask for a kitty when he was here earlier.
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17:27 speedrunnerg55_ bed
17:27 speedrunnerg55_ mincraft
17:27 wannabe1987 he did?  theres some in the nieghborhood...
17:27 speedrunnerg55_ virus
17:28 speedrunnerg55_ internet
17:28 speedrunnerg55_ microsoft
17:28 wannabe1987 moose?
17:28 speedrunnerg55_ linux
17:28 speedrunnerg55_ free bsd
17:28 speedrunnerg55_ open bsd
17:28 speedrunnerg55_ bsd
17:28 tesla4d speedrunnerG55, IRC is not a search engine.
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17:29 speedrunnerg55_ guessing password
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17:29 tesla4d For what?
17:29 Android is now known as Guest93856
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17:29 speedrunnerg55_ [13:25] <thegenius2k9> [ sudo ] password for root
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17:29 tesla4d Also, has a shoutbox where most sites have search boxes.
17:30 eightbitbrad Error; Too many password attempts.  IRC users becoming annoyed.
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17:30 wannabe1987 .
17:30 tesla4d So you'll see something like "Cessna Citation" "Not a search box"
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17:33 Whisperingwolf this show going to get started anytime soon?
17:35 wannabe1987 no\
17:36 eightbitbrad I don't think they're doing video production today
17:36 eightbitbrad and since there's no other streaming cameras set up in the rest of the building, we get the entrancing clock of doom
17:39 wannabe1987 its boring
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17:40 DavidJKuhr hello all
17:41 wannabe1987 hi
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17:41 BotSteve All right, show us on the doll where Seroster touched you.
17:41 critterpal lol!
17:42 wannabe1987 ...
17:42 wannabe1987 evening. swede!
17:43 DavidJKuhr @Captain  15 #'s of cables headed your way via priority mail.
17:45 wannabe1987 yay!!!!
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17:46 wannabe1987 hey boss
17:47 mman454 Hey wannabe1987
17:47 mman454 No one at the lab right now?
17:47 wannabe1987 i dunno...i'm home
17:47 BatSteve-Away is now known as BatSteve
17:47 wannabe1987 hey battysteve
17:47 BatSteve wannabe1987: if you type .stream BotSteve will tell you the stream address
17:47 BotSteve BatSteve: At 15:29Z, mikemol asked me to tell you , and that he's looking for _other_ people to take on editor roles. Particularly for the wishlist...
17:48 BatSteve .stream
17:48 BotSteve The Geek Group Live Web Stream can be found at:
17:48 BatSteve that will always work, no matter what the topic changes to
17:48 BatSteve speaking of
17:49 mikemol BatSteve: Also, started a forum thread wrt wishlist:
17:49 BatSteve Lab's Live Stream: | mikemol needs help with this, contact him if interested: | Channel log: | BotSteve now searches Wolfram Alpha.  Try it out with .wa <request>
17:49 BatSteve bugger
17:49 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream: | mikemol needs help with this, contact him if interested: | Channel log: | BotSteve now searches Wolfram Alpha.  Try it out with .wa <request>
17:50 Seroster BatSteve....
17:50 Seroster That bot..
17:50 Seroster I love it! =D
17:51 cctoide are they punching a hole in the MDH right now?
17:51 BatSteve Seroster: I laughed especially hard when I put that one in the list
17:51 Seroster How many are there?
17:52 Seroster And... I don't think those dolls have enough holes to show where I touched....
17:52 BatSteve Not that many.
17:52 wannabe1987 cctoide - do you want me to walk over and look?
17:52 Yaotzin Really
17:52 BatSteve I'm surprised there hasn't been a repeat yet
17:52 Yaotzin 45 viewers watching the bouncing camera?
17:52 cctoide Not really :p
17:52 Yaotzin bouncing clock
17:52 Yaotzin even
17:52 wannabe1987 i can...
17:52 Seroster I xed it
17:53 wannabe1987 i'm now watching the clock
17:53 wannabe1987 it sucks :(
17:53 Seroster Wannabe, get to the lab and have a strip show there!
17:53 cctoide There were jackhammers in the distance yesterday
17:53 wannabe1987 NO
17:53 wannabe1987 you aint my boyfriend
17:53 DavidJKuhr lol
17:53 wannabe1987 he s the only one who gets a know this
17:53 eightbitbrad It's on here but I'm just listening to the scanner
17:53 BatSteve wannabe1987: would you do it if he was watching the stream too?
17:53 Seroster ..And not even him gets a show =P
17:53 Seroster Good thinking, BatSteve!
17:53 BatSteve I'm helpful that way
17:53 wannabe1987 if i wanted to listen to the scanner...i'd listen in TJs car....
17:54 wannabe1987 no...not even then
17:54 wannabe1987 chris boden would be watching somewhere...
17:54 Seroster Wannabe is our own lil Milf =P
17:54 wannabe1987 and thats worng
17:54 wannabe1987 yes...i am
17:54 cctoide Chris mentioned running video cable to every room as if it was a trivial affair :p
17:54 Seroster Yeah, you'd be an instant G5!
17:54 wannabe1987 lol
17:55 critterpal The camera is just pointed at the screen. The time is wrong.
17:55 Yaotzin the time is uh
17:55 mman454 .t
17:55 BotSteve Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:55:30 GMT
17:55 Yaotzin Some weird ass time zone
17:55 wannabe1987 155pm
17:55 cctoide aka UTC
17:55 Yaotzin yeah
17:55 Yaotzin UTC
17:55 BatSteve Yaotzin: use .t -4  for TGG HQ
17:55 critterpal I am going to eat some macaroni and cheese. Then I am going to go there and move that camera.
17:56 SparkyProjects It's UK GMT :D
17:56 critterpal No one can stop me.
17:56 mman454 what is UTC in comparison with GMT?
17:56 Seroster n
17:56 Seroster No difference really
17:56 Seroster Cept for summer time /winter tie
17:56 Yaotzin BatSteve: I've gotten enough phone calls from back home that I'm familiar with the time difference between california and michigan
17:56 BatSteve mman454: Slight difference in daylight savings time rules, I believe
17:56 Yaotzin I got it down
17:56 Yaotzin lol
17:56 mman454 Ah
17:56 BatSteve UTC is the one that never, ever changes, if I'm correct
17:56 mman454 The clock on the lab computer is way off then
17:56 cctoide well, the timezone never changes
17:56 mman454 minute wise its accurate
17:57 cctoide the countries do
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17:57 cctoide UK is on British Summer Time during the summer
17:57 Seroster mman454, there is a delay
17:57 cctoide not GMT
17:57 Seroster Sweden is on swedish summer.... now.
17:57 mman454 so what would I put into .t ?
17:57 BatSteve Right but no matter where you are in the world, UTC should be the same, right?
17:57 cctoide yes
17:58 cctoide Zulu time
17:58 BatSteve Ok, that's what I thought
17:58 BatSteve huh...idea
17:58 BatSteve .t zulu
17:58 BotSteve BatSteve: Sorry, I don't know about the 'zulu' timezone.
17:58 cctoide I like being on UTC+0, it makes time on the internet easier :x
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17:58 BatSteve Oh, we're changing that, BotSteve
17:58 Yaotzin .t Zanzabar land
17:58 BotSteve Yaotzin: Sorry, I don't know about the 'Zanzabar land' timezone.
17:58 cctoide we switched to summer time a couple of weeks ago though
17:58 Yaotzin damn
17:58 wannabe1987 .
17:58 mman454 .t UTC
17:58 BotSteve 2011-04-13T17:58:54Z
17:58 wannabe1987 .google
17:59 cctoide if you're going to implement Zulu time, implement the rest of the military TZs
17:59 wannabe1987 whats th waether command again?
17:59 cctoide
17:59 mman454 wait how the fuck does that work?
17:59 wannabe1987 i need a list somewhere
17:59 mman454 .t +0
17:59 BotSteve Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:59:16 +0
17:59 mman454 oh wait...
17:59 mman454 .t
17:59 BotSteve Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:59:23 GMT
17:59 SparkyProjects GMT never changes either, we either follow GMT in winter, ot BST in summer, GMT is when the sun is highest in the sky (solar noon)
17:59 BotSteve Yaotzin:  Zanzibar Land is currently on Eastern Pain Time, and it is Snake o' Clock
17:59 wannabe1987 lol
17:59 Phu goddamnit Adobe... how can flash consume all available system memory and CPU time WHEN IDLING!?!
17:59 Phu /rant
17:59 Yaotzin Careful, Snake o'Clock is half past trip mines
18:00 BatSteve wannabe1987: it's .weather
18:00 mman454 Go on a wild rant elsewhere lol
18:00 wannabe1987 .weather kgrr
18:00 BotSteve Overcast ☁, 62.6℉ (17℃), 30.07in (1015mb), Light breeze 5kt (↑) - KGRR 17:53Z
18:00 Coderjoe GMT and UTC are not the same thing.
18:00 Coderjoe
18:00 wannabe1987 is that a cloud?!
18:00 eightbitbrad Phu: It's... Adobe.  Enough said.
18:00 mman454 .help
18:00 wannabe1987 lol
18:00 Phu yup
18:00 wannabe1987 yay for warmer weather!
18:00 Yaotzin .weather 92801
18:00 BotSteve KNTK: no such ICAO code, or no NOAA data
18:00 Phu pause TGG live stream... go to bed.. come back next day... swapping to hell.
18:00 wannabe1987 you need your airport code
18:01 Yaotzin hmm
18:01 Yaotzin I forget the code for Anaheim
18:01 wannabe1987 .weather kdfw
18:01 BotSteve Cloudy, 75.2℉ (24℃), 29.98in (1012mb), Fresh breeze 17kt (↑) - KDFW 17:53Z
18:01 wannabe1987 thats dallas
18:01 wannabe1987 :D
18:01 wannabe1987 damn its warm there
18:01 wannabe1987 :(
18:01 BatSteve .weather dallas
18:01 wannabe1987 my bestie is there
18:01 BotSteve Overcast ☁, 77.0℉ (25℃), 29.99in (1012mb), Moderate breeze 15kt (↑) - KDAL 17:53Z
18:01 wannabe1987 .
18:01 BatSteve falso
18:01 BatSteve *false
18:01 wannabe1987 .
18:01 wannabe1987 .
18:01 BatSteve you can use city names
18:01 wannabe1987 .
18:01 wannabe1987 orly
18:01 wannabe1987 cool
18:01 Yaotzin .weather Anaheim
18:01 wannabe1987 but not zip codes
18:01 BotSteve KNTK: no such ICAO code, or no NOAA data
18:01 wannabe1987 IMPLEMENT ZIPCODES
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18:02 mman454 how do I get BotSteve to tell me the available commands?
18:02 cctoide .weather lppr
18:02 Yaotzin Apparently I just don't exist
18:02 BotSteve Clear ☼, 21℃, 1016mb, Gentle breeze 10kt (↑) - LPPR 17:30Z
18:02 wannabe1987 sorry yaotzin
18:02 Whisperingwolf .weather kind
18:02 BotSteve Cloudy, 62.6℉ (17℃), 30.07in (1015mb), Light air 3kt (↻) - KIND 17:54Z
18:02 BatSteve wannabe1987: PUT IN A REQUEST
18:02 BatSteve
18:02 wannabe1987 how
18:03 cctoide Hm.. it doesn't give the METAR letter?
18:03 wannabe1987 my internets froze.  cool
18:03 BatSteve cctoide: what's a metar letter?
18:04 cctoide wait, that's ATIS, not METAR, derp
18:04 BatSteve mman454: commands list not yet implemented.   Partial list available if you PM him and type .commands
18:04 BatSteve cctoide: thought so
18:06 BatSteve Yaotzin: are you near fullerton?
18:06 Yaotzin Yeah actually
18:06 Yaotzin just under it
18:06 wannabe1987 i'm not logging into something else to post a request...for get it
18:06 BatSteve .weather kful
18:06 BotSteve Overcast ☁, 60.8℉ (16℃), 30.15in (1018mb), Gentle breeze 7kt (↑) - KLGB 17:53Z
18:06 BatSteve wannabe1987: then quit yer whinin.  (:
18:06 mman454 BotSteve: tell TMB I apprecieate the help. Any chance next time I'm at the lab you could help me out with the CC in my car?
18:06 BotSteve mman454: I'll pass that on when TMB is around.
18:07 Yaotzin 60 out eh? That's pretty cool for here
18:07 Yaotzin we keep our apartment at 68 year round and everyone always complains that it's freezing
18:07 Yaotzin I like to remind them of my days in the outdoor hottub in Michigan in the -10 below windchill
18:07 wannabe1987 lol
18:08 Yaotzin My Jack and coke turning into a slushy
18:08 Yaotzin getting my hand stuck to the doorknob to get back inside
18:08 wannabe1987 ow
18:08 BatSteve Aw, why would you do that to perfectly good jack?
18:09 Coderjoe MOTION
18:09 DavidJKuhr the mouse moved
18:09 Coderjoe screensaver bumped
18:09 DavidJKuhr lol
18:09 Yaotzin BatSteve: If it was Black Label I wouldn't
18:09 Yaotzin but it's jack
18:09 Coderjoe bodies moving past the camera
18:09 BatSteve I guess that's fair.  Part of it is I'm just not a fan of jack + coke
18:10 Yaotzin Yeah honestly I typically go for aged rums
18:10 DavidJKuhr i like jack and coke as well as captain and coke
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18:10 Yaotzin Captain and coke is popular
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18:10 Yaotzin specially since it's $15 a handle for captain
18:10 mikemol It's a GRLUG RAID!
18:10 slestak hola, grluggers in teh front yard
18:11 brousch let's gettum!
18:11 Yaotzin
18:11 Yaotzin This stuff is good
18:11 Yaotzin real good
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18:11 Yaotzin have a jug in our bar right now
18:11 wannabe1987 rum/vodka and diet coke please!
18:11 Yaotzin Vodka and coke?
18:11 wannabe1987 yes
18:12 Yaotzin I don't know
18:12 wannabe1987 vanilla vodka and coke
18:12 Yaotzin Last time I had vodka in a mix drink was when my now ex girlfriend had me get a bloody mary one morning at breakfast
18:12 Yaotzin I gagged
18:12 tgg stream check, we're on
18:12 mman454 BatSteve BotSteve needs to be able to tell when a person was last response was on the IRC
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18:13 Yaotzin She couldn't touch my mixed drinks since I make them so strong but gatdam I was having nothing of that bloody mary
18:13 wannabe1987 why?
18:13 Yaotzin shit is horrendous
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18:13 mman454 tgg: Does any one there know if you have registered your nick?
18:13 wannabe1987 mman454 why?
18:13 BatSteve .seen mman454
18:13 BotSteve BatSteve: I last saw mman454 at 2011-04-13 18:13:32 UTC on #thegeekgroup
18:14 Yaotzin Yeah you're broadcasting
18:14 Coderjoe yes, cap'n we see you
18:14 eightbitbrad omg non-clock on the stream!
18:14 Coderjoe and hear yout
18:14 BatSteve Ask and you shall receive, mman
18:14 mman454 wannabe1987 Because if they did we would consider giving them ops
18:14 wannabe1987 no, not that
18:14 wannabe1987 why have botsteve tell when person was last online?
18:14 mman454 .seen Captain_
18:14 BotSteve mman454: I last saw captain_ at 2011-04-13 15:49:18 UTC on #thegeekgroup
18:14 mman454 so I could tell that
18:14 wannabe1987 ok
18:14 Coderjoe stream death
18:14 thegenius2k9 srsly?
18:15 mman454 Damn it!!!
18:15 thegenius2k9 ...
18:15 eightbitbrad and the stream just peed the carpet.
18:15 mman454 tgg Stream offline
18:15 thegenius2k9 someone hit the wrong button
18:15 Yaotzin Probably intentional?
18:15 thegenius2k9 yea...
18:15 Yaotzin I'm going to miss having my groceries delivered to my door when I'm back in Michigan
18:16 Yaotzin Really am
18:16 thegenius2k9 yay back
18:16 BatSteve you get that?  ::jealous::
18:16 Yaotzin Yup
18:16 Yaotzin I put in an order last night before I went to bed, groceries will be here in an hour
18:16 mman454 Job interview?
18:16 Yaotzin a*
18:17 Yaotzin A weeks worth of groceries and ha only $6 delivery fee
18:17 Whisperingwolf woot
18:17 Yaotzin They'll even carry the groceries in your house too
18:19 BatSteve Next you'll tell us you can give the delivery guy a deer as he leaves and the next week he'll bring back venison jerky
18:19 Yaotzin haha
18:19 Yaotzin You think people down here know what venison is?
18:20 Yaotzin I had a friend send me some homemade venison jerky and none of my roommates would touch it
18:20 mikemol Yaotzin: Heh. More for you, then. :)
18:20 Yaotzin Indeed
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18:21 * BatSteve just had a thought
18:21 BatSteve .seen wub
18:21 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen wub around.
18:21 BatSteve ...she's in the channel, numbnuts.
18:21 mman454 tgg New guy: welcome to the group!
18:22 mikemol 0.5 bodens?
18:22 Yaotzin eh
18:22 Yaotzin .4
18:22 mashpriborintorg action in the livecam !
18:22 Yaotzin We haven't experienced a whole boden in some time
18:22 mman454 We need a guide for the measurment of Boden
18:23 Yaotzin .3 being conversation level
18:23 Yaotzin 1.0 being 120+ dB
18:24 mman454 No like 1.0 being excited yelling. Such as "All Over the floor"
18:24 Yaotzin 1.0 should be normal boden levels
18:24 Yaotzin which is loud as dickens
18:24 Yaotzin which is why .3 is normal conversation for everyone else
18:24 mman454 WTF are you talking about? As loud as dickens?
18:25 brousch is a boden a measure of sound volume or excitement?
18:25 Yaotzin Loud as the dickens
18:25 BatSteve brousch: yes.
18:25 mashpriborintorg logarythmic scale
18:25 mman454 .wiki dickens
18:25 BotSteve "Charles John Huffam Dickens ( /ˈtʃɑrlz ˈdɪkɪnz/; 7 February 1812 – 9 June 1870) was the most popular English novelist of the Victorian era, and he remains popular, responsible for some of English literature's most iconic characters." -
18:25 Yaotzin heh
18:25 mashpriborintorg 9 boden is enough to convert matter in plasma
18:25 mman454 I'm american and I have never heard "as loud as the dickens"
18:26 BatSteve mman454: you're not old enough.
18:26 thaery 10 Bodens is the Big Bang?
18:26 mashpriborintorg and 12 boden is... awesome
18:26 thaery hehe
18:26 thegenius2k9 lol...
18:27 brousch i smell another video coming on
18:27 thegenius2k9 12 boden turns water into wine
18:27 mman454 BatSteve So its not a canadian or european thing?
18:27 mashpriborintorg at lest something usefull :O)
18:27 BatSteve thegenius2k9: or, if you're baptist, wine back into water
18:27 thaery How about 12 Boden = "It's a thing"
18:27 thegenius2k9 lol...
18:28 BatSteve mman454: Not to my knowledge.
18:28 Yaotzin So if .3 bodens is normal levels for every other human, or we can make it simple and say it's .333~ bodens
18:28 thegenius2k9 16 boden has a power level of over 9000
18:28 mman454 I got to go guys.
18:28 MagneticCow i dont have the schooling for that!!
18:29 Yaotzin so 1.0 boden is x3 normal human levels
18:29 BatSteve "point three three, uh, repeating of course, percentage of survival"
18:29 Yaotzin lol
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18:29 BatSteve ...
18:30 Yaotzin Hey .333~ is easier to use than .3
18:30 * BatSteve leaves to implement youtube search in BotSteve
18:30 thegenius2k9 .33333333333333333333333333333333 is kinda long though
18:30 thaery .3 Boden = 3 CentiBoden
18:30 Yaotzin well .333~ is 1/3
18:30 Yaotzin where as .3 is like
18:30 thegenius2k9 1/3 boden = .3
18:31 Yaotzin .3 is not 1/3
18:31 thegenius2k9 1/2 /4?
18:31 Yaotzin .333~ is 1/3
18:31 thegenius2k9 *1 1/2 /4
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18:32 Sjogerst sup sup
18:32 thegenius2k9 nm nm
18:32 eightbitbrad bork bork
18:32 thegenius2k9 derp derp
18:32 Yaotzin 51 viewers
18:32 Yaotzin watching a wall
18:32 thegenius2k9 yup
18:32 * mikemol noms a muffin
18:32 thaery It's sad really
18:32 Sjogerst what a beautiful wall
18:32 Sjogerst its like brick and stuff,,,
18:33 mikemol All in all, it's just another brick in the wall.
18:33 Yaotzin Soon I'll be swimming in icecream once the grocery delivery guy gets here
18:33 Yaotzin and then I won't have a care in the world
18:33 Sjogerst im about to head to lowes :D
18:33 thegenius2k9 but the icecream is frozen
18:33 eightbitbrad It's up in another tab for me, I'm just listening :P
18:33 thegenius2k9 yup
18:33 thegenius2k9 same
18:33 Yaotzin thegenius2k9: I'm one hot dude
18:33 Yaotzin It'll melt
18:33 MadManMarkAu Oh? The stream died earlier?
18:34 thegenius2k9 Yaotzin: i am a guy so is that not kinda gay?
18:34 thegenius2k9 :)
18:34 Yaotzin What's gay about me being hot?
18:34 thegenius2k9 idk...
18:34 * wannabe1987 leavin on a walk!
18:34 Yaotzin lol
18:35 Yaotzin *pat*
18:35 Yaotzin So what to watch on netflix
18:35 thegenius2k9 .wa wolfman alpha
18:35 BotSteve Couldn't grab results from json stringified precioussss.
18:35 thegenius2k9 lol...
18:35 Yaotzin I could go back to Desert Punk
18:35 Yaotzin for like the 5th time
18:36 Yaotzin or Red Dwarf / it crowd
18:36 Yaotzin for the 5th or 7th time
18:36 thegenius2k9 .wa google
18:36 BotSteve Google  (GOOG);$574.37(GOOG->NASDAQ->less than 1 min ago);market cap->$183.5 billion, revenue->$29.32 billion, employees->24400, revenue \/ employee->$1.202 million, net income->$8.505 billion, shares outstanding->321.5 million, annual earnings \/ share->$26.68, P\/E ratio->21.39, annual dividends \/ share->, dividend yield->0%, (based on trailing 12-month totals, last close price and annual employees);day->month->YTD->
18:37 thegenius2k9 .wa gay
18:37 BotSteve Gay  (female given name in the US);rank->beyond 1000th, fraction->less than 1 in 12500 people (0.008%), number->&lt; 200 people per year , (US data based on 2009 births and other SSA registrations in the US);expected total number alive today->14173 people, expected population fraction->1 in 16957 people (0.0059%), expected rank->1563rd, most common age->51 years, (using standard US mortality data)
18:37 thaery >.>
18:37 thegenius2k9 .wa >.>
18:37 BotSteve Couldn't grab results from json stringified precioussss.
18:37 thegenius2k9 .wa emoicon
18:37 BotSteve emoticon  (English word);noun->a representation of a facial expression (as a smile or frown) created by typing a sequence of characters in sending email;smiley;facial expression -> facial gesture;(none among common words);emoticons; -> ->;:-) or :-( -> E-mail attachment? -> Face sideways? -> Symbol like :-) or :-(   (total: 4), (based on all New York Times crossword puzzles 1994 to
18:38 thaery ^.^
18:38 thegenius2k9 .wa the geek group
18:38 BotSteve Couldn't grab results from json stringified precioussss.
18:38 thegenius2k9 .wa "the geek group"
18:38 BotSteve Couldn't grab results from json stringified precioussss.
18:38 thegenius2k9 .wa geek
18:38 BotSteve geek  (English word);1->noun->a carnival performer who does disgusting acts, 2->noun->a person with an unusual or odd personality;g\'eek  (IPA: \\:0261\\:02c8ik);geek  (no hyphenation)  (4 letters ->1 syllable);1916  (95 years ago);geeks;eccentric -> eccentric person -> oddball;crackpot -> fruitcake -> nutter -> screwball -> wacko -> whacko   (total: 6);performer -> performing artist -> anomaly -> unusual person   (tota
18:39 thegenius2k9 lol...
18:39 mikemol .wa genius
18:39 BotSteve genius  (English word);1->noun->someone who has exceptional intellectual ability and originality, 2->noun->unusual mental ability, 3->noun->someone who is dazzlingly skilled in any field, 4->noun->exceptional creative ability, 5->noun->a natural talent, (5 meanings);j\'eenyuhs  (IPA: d\\:0292\\:02c8inj\\:0259s);gen-ius  (6 letters ->2 syllables);1390  (Late Middle Ages)  (621 years ago);Latin;brain -> brainiac -> Einste
18:39 thegenius2k9 the nutter group
18:40 thaery lol
18:40 Yaotzin The Nutter Group sounds like a fun way to spend an afternoon
18:40 thegenius2k9 it could work according to WA
18:40 thegenius2k9 so could the screwball group
18:40 thegenius2k9 and the crackpot group
18:41 Yaotzin You can't say screwball without me thinking of ducks
18:41 thegenius2k9 lol
18:41 Yaotzin if you remember that cartoon
18:41 thegenius2k9 .wa screwtape
18:41 BotSteve Couldn't grab results from json stringified precioussss.
18:41 thegenius2k9 .wa screw_tape
18:41 Yaotzin with the singing duck who had a big lolipop in a instrument case
18:41 BotSteve s->c->r->e->w->_->t->a->p->e;(no complete common words);(no continuations)
18:41 Yaotzin he was with daffy duck
18:41 BatSteve thegenius2k9: why are you using wolfram alpha for these searches?
18:41 thegenius2k9 .wa screw
18:41 BotSteve Couldn't grab results from json stringified precioussss.
18:41 thegenius2k9 ya
18:41 Yaotzin had a pork pie cap
18:41 thegenius2k9 umm
18:41 thegenius2k9 just because
18:42 thegenius2k9 :D
18:42 Yaotzin He at one point held up a sign with a screw and abaseball on it
18:42 Yaotzin so when i hear screwball I think of a young duck with a lolipop
18:42 thegenius2k9 lol
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18:43 thegenius2k9 .wa beep
18:44 BotSteve beep  (English word);1->noun->a short high tone produced as a signal or warning, 2->verb->make a loud noise, 3->verb->call, summon, or alert with a beeper;b\'eep  (IPA: b\\:02c8ip);beep  (no hyphenation)  (4 letters ->1 syllable);1929  (Interwar Period)  (82 years ago);beeps -> beeped -> beeping;bleep -> blare -> claxon -> honk -> toot   (total: 5);tootle;sound -> go -> call -> send for   (total: 4);asleep -> bleep -> b
18:44 Whisperingwolf .wa  onomatopoeia
18:44 BotSteve onomatopoeia  (English word);noun->using words that imitate the sound they denote;on-o-mat-o-poe-ia  (12 letters ->6 syllables);1577  (European Renaissance->Elizabethan Era)  (434 years ago);Latin -> Greek;onomatopoeias;rhetorical device;(none among common words);onomatopoeic;*Words that come from clams -> Snap, crackle and pop, e.g., (based on all New York Times crossword puzzles 1994 to 2009);16   (International Engli
18:45 thegenius2k9 .wa oompaloompa
18:45 BotSteve Oompa-Loompa  (fictional character);Oompa-Loompas are fictional characters from Roald Dahl\'s books Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator who are the only people Willy Wonka will allow to work in his factory because of the risk of industrial espionage.
18:45 Whisperingwolf .wa Batman
18:46 BotSteve Batman  (fictional character);Batman is the fictional Gotham City superhero whose real identity is the billionaire industrialist and playboy Bruce Wayne., (according to DC Comics);alternate names->Bruce Wayne
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18:46 thegenius2k9 .wa charlie bit my finger
18:46 BotSteve Charlie Bit My Finger--Again;Charlie Bit My Finger--Again is an internet video in which a younger brother bites the finger of the older brother., (The video is famous as the most viewed YouTube video of all time.)
18:47 thegenius2k9 still 51 people watching a wall
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18:48 thegenius2k9 .wa david after the dentist
18:48 BotSteve Couldn't grab results from json stringified precioussss.
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18:48 Android is now known as Guest22300
18:48 Whisperingwolf .wa Schrödinger's cat
18:48 BotSteve Error fetching URI.
18:49 Guest22300 hello
18:49 thegenius2k9 .wa watching paint dry
18:49 thegenius2k9 hi
18:49 Whisperingwolf lol
18:49 BotSteve Couldn't grab results from json stringified precioussss.
18:49 Whisperingwolf .wa microsoft
18:49 Guest22300 how do i get my nickname to not change on me?
18:49 BotSteve Microsoft  (MSFT);$25.75(MSFT->NASDAQ->1 min ago);market cap->$215.4 billion, revenue->$66.69 billion, employees->89000, revenue \/ employee->$749300, net income->$20.57 billion, shares outstanding->8.402 billion, annual earnings \/ share->$2.39, P\/E ratio->10.73, annual dividends \/ share->$0.74, dividend yield->2.26%, (based on trailing 12-month totals, last close price and annual employees);day->month->YTD->year->5
18:49 thegenius2k9 .wa macrosoft
18:50 BotSteve Microsoft  (MSFT);$25.75(MSFT->NASDAQ->1 min ago);market cap->$215.4 billion, revenue->$66.69 billion, employees->89000, revenue \/ employee->$749300, net income->$20.57 billion, shares outstanding->8.402 billion, annual earnings \/ share->$2.39, P\/E ratio->10.73, annual dividends \/ share->$0.74, dividend yield->2.26%, (based on trailing 12-month totals, last close price and annual employees);day->month->YTD->year->5
18:50 thegenius2k9 =.=
18:50 thegenius2k9 i said macro not micro
18:50 thegenius2k9 macro is bigger
18:50 mikemol Guest22300: The problem is, someone else owns that nickname on Freenode already.
18:50 Guest22300 I see thanks
18:50 mikemol You'll have to use a different username. Or do something like append a _ or __.
18:50 thegenius2k9 or _____
18:51 thegenius2k9 steve aproves
18:51 mikemol or _,-,_ :)
18:51 thegenius2k9 *approves
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18:51 Whisperingwolf .trope
18:51 BotSteve Whisperingwolf: Sorry, you need to enter a trope
18:51 Whisperingwolf .trope more dakka
18:51 BotSteve Whisperingwolf:
18:51 thegenius2k9 or a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, j, k, l, m, n, o, p, q, r, s, t, u, v, w, x, y, z
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18:52 Whisperingwolf hmm
18:52 Android6mm much better
18:52 thegenius2k9 people spamming is like more dakka
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18:53 thegenius2k9 OH NAO ONLY 47 VIEWERS :OOOOO
18:53 cctoide pick a nick that isn't registered
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18:54 cctoide check your server tab, if it tells you "this nick is registered" it may change you out of it automatically or someone might ghost you out of it
18:54 Android6mm So what are they working on now?
18:54 cctoide most common words and short nicks will most likely be taken
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19:04 Whisperingwolf and here I thought t nothing could be more annoying than the scanner....
19:05 Whisperingwolf hmm
19:05 Whisperingwolf ,wa Minecraft
19:05 Whisperingwolf .wa Minecraft
19:05 BotSteve Couldn't grab results from json stringified precioussss.
19:05 Whisperingwolf fail
19:08 mikemol The livestream source cam there should be an automated, motion-triggered ptz. :)
19:08 Whisperingwolf that would be lovely
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19:13 Cprossu_Elsewher hello all (from crappy wifi)
19:14 thaery That beautiful beautiful wall
19:15 LinuxH4x0r hi guys
19:16 Coderjoe hello, Cprossu (on a /16 owned by a company in tempe az)
19:17 Cprossu_Elsewher tempe?! weird
19:17 Cprossu_Elsewher the company that owns this line should be GA
19:17 Coderjoe that's where the company that owns the IP block said they are in their registration
19:18 Cprossu_Elsewher they musta changed then * checks*
19:18 Coderjoe granted, you could potentially be in NZ (or any other place) and still show up on that IP, depending on how they allocated it
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19:18 Coderjoe maricopa
19:19 Coderjoe maricopa county community college district
19:19 Coderjoe ok, so not company as much as organization
19:19 Cprossu_Elsewher ahhh ok
19:19 thaery what's that ominous sound
19:20 Cprossu_Elsewher what you see is the fact they own the static ip's
19:20 Cprossu_Elsewher (maricopa comm colleges)
19:20 Coderjoe hehe... there is an occasional ticking sound on the stream... however, it would be the contractors putting the door in
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19:21 Coderjoe thaery: what sound?
19:21 thaery It was an odd deep sound
19:21 thaery lasted a few seconds
19:21 Coderjoe fire station toneout
19:21 Cprossu_Elsewher and they even put it through a tunnel since the last time I looked
19:22 Cprossu_Elsewher because the first hop on my route is (level 3???)
19:22 Coderjoe each firehouse has a different tone code, and a unit at dispatch sends out the tone to activate equipment at a specific house (and pagers tied to that house)
19:23 thaery Didn't seem like it was that
19:23 Coderjoe if it was a solid tone (or two)
19:23 thaery it was more of a rumble
19:23 Coderjoe there may have also been morse code for a repeater identifier
19:23 thaery It wasn't coming from the scanner
19:23 Coderjoe oh
19:24 Cprossu_Elsewher either way, Coderjoe, to find out who owns the line here ->
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19:26 Coderjoe thaery: I don't know then. I didn't have my headphones on at the time. also, I misread "deep" as "beep" :(
19:26 thaery :)
19:26 Cprossu_Elsewher rofl. this is hillarious, did the traceroute to google just now---- 47 ms    33 ms    30 ms [ 78]
19:26 Coderjoe thaery: perhaps it was related to the contractors doing someting
19:27 Cprossu_Elsewher ^Youtube, serious enough to name a route after
19:27 thaery lol
19:27 mikemol Or a truck going down Leonard.
19:27 thaery That's what I'm thinking now
19:27 mikemol Hm
19:27 * mikemol wonders if LStL will hear Aeromed passovers.
19:28 mikemol That sounds...odd.
19:28 Cprossu_Elsewher well you know they *ARE* cutting a hole in the side of the building, right?
19:28 thaery Yup
19:28 Cprossu_Elsewher heard the concrete saws going earlier
19:28 thaery MOVEMENT
19:29 Cprossu_Elsewher is now known as Cprossu_No_Audio
19:29 Cprossu_No_Audio what a weird thing to name myself in IRC lol
19:29 Coderjoe marvel at the colorspace artifacting of the orange object on the desk
19:29 Whisperingwolf look people
19:29 InteliWasp too bad they didn't move the camera ovet to the MDH
19:30 Whisperingwolf I don't think they have long enough cable for that
19:30 Coderjoe they have a metric crapton of coax
19:30 InteliWasp they are useing a laptop last i heard and all you need is camera equipment + laptop + cat5 cable
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19:31 Coderjoe InteliWasp: they fixed the desktop yesterday
19:31 Cprossu_No_Audio yes I am sure they could rig something terrible up that if a butterfly flapped it's wings in new york too hard the signal would go down. don't give them any ideas
19:31 Cprossu_No_Audio Coderjoe: what did it need? new power supply??
19:31 Cprossu_No_Audio I thought they switched machines
19:31 mikemol There's a color artifact at the top and bottom of the viewports, too.
19:31 mikemol Near the top it looks cyan, near the bottom it looks yellow.
19:32 InteliWasp i did hear chris mention making "streaming carts" yesterday
19:32 Cprossu_No_Audio that's because of a new cap card
19:32 mikemol *viewport
19:32 Cprossu_No_Audio this one is a haugeppauge pos card of death
19:32 Whisperingwolf o death?
19:32 Cprossu_No_Audio yes death
19:32 mikemol Is that one of the two I brought?
19:32 mikemol PVR 150?
19:32 Cprossu_No_Audio unless you run them in linux
19:32 Cprossu_No_Audio no it's a new card from what I heard
19:33 Cprossu_No_Audio and since the ppvr150 hasn't been made in a while
19:33 Coderjoe I got the impression they fixed it, but I could be wrong. no idea. I got it from yesterday's vlog
19:33 Cprossu_No_Audio I'll assume they got the cheapish one
19:33 Cprossu_No_Audio ooooh
19:33 Cprossu_No_Audio no it's not fixed
19:34 Cprossu_No_Audio look at the caqptains blog, he was asking for a 'non dell rackmount computer with pcie'
19:34 Cprossu_No_Audio *captains
19:34 Cprossu_No_Audio even
19:35 Coderjoe that was for a more permanant setup
19:35 mikemol Right, because that badass card doesn't work with Dells.
19:35 Cprossu_No_Audio so they aren't hooked to the laptop right now
19:35 Coderjoe for a black magic intensity pro
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19:35 Cprossu_No_Audio correction: Dells don't work with the card xD
19:35 Cprossu_No_Audio it's because dell has shitty bios
19:35 Whisperingwolf hello batman
19:36 thebatman hey there
19:36 Cprossu_No_Audio even though they run reference designs occasionally, they make their own crappy bios which ruins everything
19:36 Cprossu_No_Audio what's up batman?
19:36 Coderjoe I wish chris luck with the intensity pro, if he plans on using linux. it supposedly is supported, but I wasn't terribly impressed with their api when I looked at it. (I do not have a card, however)
19:36 Cprossu_No_Audio did you find any morsals of hope in the gvg manual?
19:38 Cprossu_No_Audio also are there any routing boxen that are elsewhere that are needed to run the setup proper?
19:38 Coderjoe Cprossu: steve got a reply from GV.
19:38 Cprossu_No_Audio were they as confused as we were?
19:39 thebatman havent really looked my job isnt getting master control up and running its supply and tools
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19:42 Cprossu_No_Audio Coderjoe:  what did GVG tell to steve?
19:43 Coderjoe he said he posted it to the forums. I would have to dig for the link
19:43 * Coderjoe checks scrollback
19:43 Cprossu_No_Audio I'll find the link
19:44 mikemol GVG doesn't maintain it any more. The company that does has its site offline.
19:44 mikemol They did find that they need more input syncing signals, because the device doesn't auto-latch or something.
19:45 Cprossu_No_Audio model 16001L Switcher
19:45 Coderjoe he didn't paste the link here
19:47 Cprossu_No_Audio it's ok I've got the forum post
19:48 Cprossu_No_Audio
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19:50 qwertyboy5 hello all
19:50 qwertyboy5 is now known as qwertyboy
19:50 tyrok qwertyboy5: Howdy!
19:51 qwertyboy hi
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19:51 Cprossu_No_Audio aww batman left darn
19:51 qwertyboy5 not much happening in video production i take it?
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19:52 Cprossu_No_Audio
19:52 Cprossu_No_Audio things are happening
19:52 Cprossu_No_Audio they need more sync!
19:52 Cprossu_No_Audio perhaps they even need a kitchen sync!
19:52 qwertyboy5 i mean no one is in the stream right now
19:52 mikemol They should switch the stream to point down where people are.
19:52 Cprossu_No_Audio they are going to sync or swin!
19:53 Cprossu_No_Audio *m
19:53 tyrok What's the link for the live stream?
19:53 Coderjoe .stream
19:53 BotSteve The Geek Group Live Web Stream can be found at:
19:54 qwertyboy5 .stream
19:54 BotSteve The Geek Group Live Web Stream can be found at:
19:54 qwertyboy5 cool
19:54 tyrok BotSteve: Cool.  Thanks!
19:54 tyrok Er, Coderjoe, thanks!  :)
19:54 tyrok Didn't notice that wasn't BatSteve.  :)
19:55 qwertyboy5 tgg_
19:55 tyrok I see the racks that were up there have been moved.
19:56 qwertyboy5 cory is all alone :(
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19:59 mikemol hummm
19:59 mikemol :)
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19:59 brousch is Fox17 going to take issue with their sign hanging in the live stream?
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20:00 qwertyboy5 if anything its free publicity
20:00 Coderjoe they did donate some equipment, and might be a sponsor as a result. if not, it is a potential trademark infringement issue.
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20:03 tyrok Ah, there's somebody over in the corner there.  Didn't even see him/her behind that microphone.  :)
20:04 Coderjoe yeah, cory's apparently slaving away at NLE
20:05 tyrok Fun.  So is that the permanent home of editing equipment?
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20:05 cctoide did they move the NLE workstations from the Geekhouse?
20:05 Cprossu_no_audio I got a possible lead to a manual for that switcher, but I think it may be a wild goose chase
20:06 qwertyboy5 i think do. this is the new home of video production
20:07 qwertyboy5 hey, the new make magazine came. im happy :)
20:07 brousch what editor do you guys use for the videos?
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20:08 tyrok Is Cory in here right now?
20:08 mikemol They're using the Adobe suite.
20:08 MoxieMike in one of the videos they say they use sony vegas
20:08 brousch damn. big bucks
20:08 mikemol Vegas? Ah.
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20:08 mikemol I know last night Chris asked everyone who knew Adobe AfterEffects to put together a bunch of bumps.
20:09 mikemol maglinvinn: Find that script?
20:09 tyrok I'm used to Premiere and After Effects.  What all do they need help with?
20:09 maglinvinn script>
20:09 maglinvinn ?
20:09 mikemol tyrok: Last night, I think Chris just wanted to put together a library of cut bumps.
20:09 mikemol maglinvinn: For fixing ttyS0.
20:10 maglinvinn oh, no clue
20:10 maglinvinn haven't had aminute to work on it.
20:10 mikemol Ah. :)
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20:10 maglinvinn hehe
20:11 Linus hi
20:11 * mikemol wishes GG had IPv6 set up, so he could SSH in and hack at it himself. :)
20:11 mikemol Linus: lo
20:11 Seroster The GOOD news are that I found a compressor.
20:12 Seroster The BAD news are that I stupidly enough didnt drain the oil before putting it in my backpack.
20:12 mikemol Like I said last night, if the script is on there, this will find it: find / -print0|xargs -0 grep ttyS0
20:12 mikemol Though that can probably be refined a bit.
20:12 Seroster Fuck. That was a nice backpack.
20:12 mikemol find / -type f -print0|xargs -0 grep ttyS0 # For example
20:12 mikemol Seroster: Douse it in detergent?
20:13 Seroster I'll take a shower with it
20:13 Seroster Fill it with soapy water, rinse, soap, rinse,  dry =P
20:13 Seroster About a quart of oil leaked
20:16 NeWtoz dump it in the gulf
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20:18 Fulsy hello
20:18 thebatman Hey there
20:19 qwertyboy5 oh hi der!
20:19 Fulsy what's going on in the ustream
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20:20 Seroster NeWtoz, Lol, that's daaark!
20:20 qwertyboy5 beep_
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20:23 thebatman keep ur fingers crossed that batman's tablet doesn't die so that i don't have to redo a lot of inventory
20:24 qwertyboy5 backup!
20:24 Seroster
20:24 Coderjoe we don't need backup! the cloud knows all! :P
20:24 thebatman i have the tech guys working on it i do have a backup for it from yesterday but i did a lot of work on it today
20:25 mikemol I am data TheCloud from the clan TheCloud...and I cannot die...
20:26 thebatman lol
20:26 Coderjoe oh jeez... that's terrible
20:26 * mikemol cackles
20:26 thebatman lol
20:28 Cprossu_no_audio batman, was there a manual for a GVG 16001L?
20:28 Cprossu_no_audio also
20:29 Cprossu_no_audio and gvg apparently said "The user must apply external composite sync, composite blanking and subcarrier as reference signals before the internal background generator (and other parts) will work. This was before the days of locking to reference sync."
20:29 thebatman i have no clue off hand
20:30 Coderjoe hopefully there is a signal generator in the equipment that would have been used to provide that
20:30 DavidJKuhr yay the box just got put on the mail truck lol
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20:31 thebatman Davidjkur what are u sending?
20:32 thebatman i do believe there is a signal generator
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20:33 Coderjoe Is it a Cathermin tube with inindium complex of +4? that's just what we need to get the interocitor working!
20:34 DavidJKuhr several rca cables, some other misc cables, a component HDTV distribution amp.and an older generation win tv tuner card
20:34 DavidJKuhr the box weight was just over 15 #
20:35 Seroster;
20:35 thebatman thats cool
20:35 thebatman lol the captain just walked in with a cap gun
20:35 DavidJKuhr if their is anything in particular you need that i might have let me know
20:36 thebatman boden level counter would be cool
20:37 DavidJKuhr lol
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20:37 Cprossu_no_audio lol
20:39 Cprossu_no_audio you reminded me I have 2 hd component distribution amps that I got from circuit city when they went out of business here
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20:39 Cprossu_no_audio I think the only reason I have them is they were selling them for $2.50 with cables attached
20:39 thebatman i think i might just make one of those when we get up and running lol
20:39 thebatman make a boden counter*
20:39 Cprossu_no_audio nice
20:40 DavidJKuhr I mostly have computer parts cables but I do have quite a collection of stuff in storage
20:40 Cprossu_no_audio make it large with 6inx10in lighted blocks, green yellow red
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20:40 thebatman lol
20:41 Cprossu_no_audio and put a klaxon on it if it goes red
20:41 Cprossu_no_audio xD
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20:41 thebatman i should make it so it only does that to captain shouting really loud
20:42 Cprossu_no_audio yeah
20:42 Cprossu_no_audio lol
20:43 Cprossu_no_audio anyway hopefully all you need to do is give it it's magic reference signals and nothing else will be wrong (yeah, right)
20:50 Seroster Anyone here got any way of communicating with the galactic control?
20:50 Seroster If yes, please tell Captain to move the damn camera
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20:56 Cprossu_no_audio be back as soon as i get home
20:57 Seroster Statistically speaking there are 12.4 people on fire RIGHT NOW!
20:59 exor674 ooh whatcha unboxing there?
21:00 Linus unboxing yay :)
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21:01 cctoide boden level counter from a vu-meter?
21:01 cctoide a BU-meter, as it were
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21:06 DavidJKuhr as long as you have a reference and a scale it should be pretty easy to make a boden meter from a dB meter
21:06 Seroster We DO have a reference.
21:06 Seroster The air raid siren at full blast (72v)
21:07 DavidJKuhr and if you know the dB output of it you then have your first data point
21:07 DavidJKuhr for reference
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21:07 Seroster Probably around 130db
21:08 DavidJKuhr then you could easily take a standard analog dB meter and replace the scale with a piece os card stock that is graduated in any standard way you wish depending on the meter
21:08 cctoide uh-oh what are they talking about
21:09 cctoide 4chan
21:09 Seroster Lol
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21:09 exor674 TEST!?
21:09 DavidJKuhr hi test
21:09 DavidJKuhr lol
21:09 cctoide Test works!
21:10 test hi
21:10 Seroster Hello exor674 and tes
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21:10 thebatman i don't think even the air raid siren at full blast can reach maximum boden
21:10 thebatman only boden can reach max boden lol
21:10 DavidJKuhr lol
21:10 Seroster But the air raid siren reaches a 1.0 on the boden scale
21:11 Seroster The highest ever recorded is 5.7 boden.
21:11 DavidJKuhr lol
21:11 cctoide One kiloboden would be the noise a supernova would make, if supernovas made noise
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21:12 SparkyProjects siren = 1 Boden, it would be exponential like the earthquake scale, 10 Bodens would be fsd
21:12 Seroster No, a sound level of one kiloboden would contain so much energy the entire universe would vaporize.
21:12 Seroster Like an Ecig from hell!
21:12 cctoide "I've vaped the universe." - CB
21:13 Seroster "Give me an ecig big enough and I'll vape the universe" would be a better quote
21:14 tyrok I love how those cables just kind of run over the edge of that left side wall in the live stream.  :)
21:14 thebatman lol
21:15 test lol
21:17 Phu oww... audio pain
21:17 SparkyProjects Echo Echo Echo
21:17 DavidJKuhr lots of echo and noise
21:17 SparkyProjects does anyone hear an echo ? :D
21:17 SparkyProjects and hum
21:18 DavidJKuhr yep
21:18 DavidJKuhr ear pain
21:18 DavidJKuhr lol