Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-04-17

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00:00 Ponko92 oh RED_ which Dr is your fave
00:01 maglinvinn joined #thegeekgroup
00:01 wannabe1987 hi eakin
00:01 Ponko92 mines Peter Davidson
00:01 aEx155 CaptainBoden, are you running Ubuntu 10.10?
00:01 maglinvinn yar
00:01 CaptainBoden not on this machine
00:01 CaptainBoden This is my Windoes box, my big computer.
00:02 aEx155 aha
00:02 Ponko92 your just editing Captains blog right now i guess?
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00:02 LeadHead Damn you media player classic!
00:03 aEx155 anyone have a good linux alternative to iTunes?
00:03 Ponko92 oh god you having troubles LeadHead
00:03 unitologist They should set the ustream up for live Zomb
00:03 LeadHead Battlefield 3 12 minute gameplay video. 1080p60. My aging opteron 165 even overclocked to 2.7GHz just can't do it with VLC
00:03 Stigern left #thegeekgroup
00:03 LeadHead So I downloaded MPC-HC to use its GPU acceleration, since my video card has more than enough balls to do it
00:04 LeadHead Video runs beautifully smooth, except that within 30 seconds, audio sync is completely gone
00:04 LeadHead and the audio starts drifting further and further away
00:05 merde its funny how GPU's could be more powerfull than CPU's nowadays
00:05 CaptainBoden yes, I'm working on today's episode.
00:05 Seroster Sweet
00:05 LeadHead This isn't even a high end GPU
00:05 Ponko92 good good
00:05 Seroster Damn, until I got myself a jar of grease I didnt know how much I needed it
00:05 cctoide no MP footage until E3 is crappy :V
00:06 masterofmonks merde: It's sort of a funny thing, a rocket may be more powerful than a combustion engine, but not quite a good for driving down the road.
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00:06 Ponko92 yeah different type of forward propulsion
00:06 Hackbat >_< My boyfriend is a chubby guy with curly hair and glasses, who loves Dr.who and tacos.
00:06 aEx155 what are your thoughts on a CPU upgrade?
00:06 Hackbat He's cory's doppleganger
00:06 LeadHead Socket 939?
00:07 LeadHead This system isn't worth upgrading the CPU
00:07 Ponko92 whats wrong with Dr. Who Hackbat lol
00:07 Hackbat Nothing
00:07 aEx155 well, actually, I was asking about my computer...
00:07 Ponko92 well then ;))
00:07 Photon939 aEx155: what are you running now?
00:07 merde i bet CPU or GPU is same FPGA IC only programmed in different way
00:07 aEx155 right now I have an Intel T2060
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00:07 Hackbat I was just commenting on the fact I'm dating a cory clone
00:07 aEx155 ~1.6Ghz
00:08 wannabe1987 what is "internet cache"?
00:08 Photon939 oh a pentium
00:08 LeadHead At a certain task, my CPU can decode around 4000 million hashes/s
00:08 aEx155 yes
00:08 aEx155 This laptop is pretty old
00:08 LeadHead my GPU can do the same task at 70,000 million hasshes/s
00:08 Ponko92 yeah thats a thing to be concerned on lol ;) least you love though that the main thing
00:08 eightbitbrad back, had to put the little geekette in training to bed.
00:08 DavidJKuhr these days you can pick up a quad core 3Ghz system with 6GB of ram and a 1TB hard disk for $400-600
00:08 wannabe1987 lol
00:08 LeadHead @merde, GPU and CPUs are not FPGAs
00:09 LeadHead by any means
00:09 Photon939 aEx155: most laptops don't let you upgrade the cpu anyway
00:09 merde they wery well could be
00:09 Seroster Luuuube! Yummy yummy lube!
00:09 Photon939 I tried to upgrade my Athlon64 laptop to a turion and it wouldn't post
00:09 LeadHead They very well are not
00:09 Photon939 even though they were the same socket
00:09 LeadHead I suppose yes you could make an FPGA "clone" a CPU and GPU
00:09 Hackbat Seroster, O.o?
00:09 LeadHead but no production GPU or CPU is an fpga
00:09 merde true
00:09 Ponko92 who here likes the earliar Dr. Who?
00:09 Seroster I am having some mechanical chi atm
00:10 Cprossu hey what's up all?
00:10 Seroster Restoring an old fucked up bearing
00:10 wannabe1987 hi cprossu
00:10 LeadHead You can't restore a precission machined ball bearing. The outer race is going to be damanged, the inner race is going to be damaged
00:10 Cprossu hey tggconsole: how goes the wiring of the gvg?
00:10 LeadHead within short order, it will be back to crap
00:10 Cprossu yeah for the most part that's true
00:10 aEx155 Photon939 I did some research on this and I do have the option to upgrade to T7200,7400, and 7600 for 2,2.16, and 2.33 gHz respectively
00:10 Seroster Leadhead... Faulty
00:11 LeadHead Faulty what
00:11 aEx155 I believe the FSB or something of 677 is compatible
00:11 Photon939 probably not worth upgrading
00:11 Ponko92 hello Cprossu not much talking to the fiancee thinking of something productive to i mean i could help increase the earths popultaion but she's in Derby
00:11 Cprossu aEx155: what laptop?
00:11 Seroster The problem here isnt the races
00:11 Seroster It's the lube.
00:11 Ponko92 lol
00:11 aEx155 Cprossu Dell Inspiron E1405
00:11 Seroster A LOT of dirt in the lube
00:11 Ponko92 oh god Seroster
00:11 Seroster The races are still shiny
00:11 LeadHead It doesn't matter if they're still shiny
00:11 LeadHead You felt grinding in the bearing
00:11 LeadHead that dirt was ground into the races
00:12 Ponko92 i was talking about population increase with my fiancee and you say lube
00:12 Cprossu yeah your options are limited.... I'm thinking of dumping a P8700 in my laptop, but it would screw things up even worse for my battery life
00:12 Ponko92 innuendo much ;)
00:12 Seroster Final assembly three seconds ago, LeadHead, and it runs smooth as ever
00:12 Photon939 at least you don't have a desktop Athlon64 clawhammer core in your laptop
00:12 aEx155 Cprossu yeah thats what I was thinking, plus this laptop already runs really hot and the battery life sucks
00:12 Hackbat I'm helping control population increase! :D
00:12 LeadHead 130nm, lawlz
00:12 Cprossu I love my freaking laptop though
00:13 Cprossu http://oi52.tinypic.com/n3akis.jpg
00:13 Ponko92 O_O are you now Hackbat
00:13 Cprossu Asus for the win.
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00:13 Photon939 my laptop has two fans
00:13 Photon939 just for the cpu
00:13 Cprossu (I upgraded my GF 9300GS to a GF 9600GT
00:13 Ponko92 shakes Cprossu
00:13 Sgt_Lemming my laptop has 1 fan, total
00:13 Sgt_Lemming it'
00:13 Hackbat Yeah in a way :P
00:13 Ponko92 hand
00:13 Sgt_Lemming it's a 12" tablet
00:13 LeadHead are those MMC GPUs?
00:13 Photon939 my laptop has a GeForce4 Go440 :(
00:13 Hackbat Ponko92, what? XD
00:13 Cprossu 'reverse' mxm
00:14 aEx155 Photon939 my one fan barely moves enough air to keep my CPU cool
00:14 Seroster It works like a charm, LeadHead
00:14 LeadHead You silly people and your laptops as main computers
00:14 Photon939 if only I could upgrade it to something DX9 compatible
00:14 Cprossu btw mine is a 14"er
00:14 Hackbat I have 3 computers :D
00:14 Cprossu (lol)
00:14 LeadHead It will work for now, spinning it by hand sure
00:14 aEx155 I was defragmenting the other day and it sat at a nice and toasty 130 degrees F
00:14 Hackbat Server, Laptop, and Main
00:14 LeadHead Once you get a load on it, it will begin to destroy itself
00:14 Seroster Ill put it back in my bike and I'll get back to you after it has ben running for... Shall we say 100 kilometers?
00:14 Cprossu I've got too many computers to count
00:14 Ponko92 ASUS X58L FTW
00:15 LeadHead 100km?
00:15 LeadHead That's it?
00:15 Seroster I'll tell you when my bike computer says it's run 100km.
00:15 aEx155 well, you could figure out rotations by using wheel circumference
00:15 Seroster Well, that's a week of use or so.
00:15 Ponko92 Hackbat i was just talking about the same thing lol
00:15 Cprossu mine is a N80vb, but now technically it's a N80vn (and even comes up as one in bios)
00:15 LeadHead We do 100km in like 2-3 days
00:15 Seroster On a motorbike, yes.
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00:15 Ponko92 its productive and fun ;P
00:16 Cprossu there was one guy who modded his bios to fit a Q9000 in one of these things
00:16 LeadHead Yes, a dirt-bike to be exact
00:16 Cprossu but he was nuts
00:16 Seroster Good luck doing 100km in 2 days at 20kph...
00:16 aEx155 I have to different modules of RAM but I believe their speeds are different
00:16 aEx155 does that affect performance?
00:16 Cprossu it could
00:16 Photon939 yes
00:16 Seroster And that's pedaling for love and glory
00:16 * CSMonster is back
00:16 Hackbat Ponko92, lol what did you mena by "Hand"?
00:16 Ponko92 which is better boundary lubrication or hydroscopic lubrication
00:16 Photon939 it will run at the speed of the slowest module
00:16 LeadHead my bike will do 120 kph, and any bit of dirt in the wheel bearings
00:16 LeadHead will destroy them rapidly
00:16 Seroster Ofcourse.
00:16 Cprossu or at the fastest module for that matter
00:17 Cprossu I've seen some whacky shit in my day
00:17 Ponko92 Hackbat: *facepalm* no lol
00:17 aEx155 fastest or slowest?
00:17 Seroster But, you maybe haven't noticed, a pedal bike =/= dirt bike.
00:17 Cprossu grab CPU-Z and you'll likely find out
00:17 eightbitbrad okay, late dinnertime for me.  I'll be back a bit later :)
00:17 Cprossu unless the clock detection is busted
00:17 LeadHead Either way, packing new grease into a bearing that has been damaged is just not the correct way to go about things
00:17 Cprossu (in which case download GPU-Z)
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00:17 Seroster LeadHead, the bearing hasnt ben damaged.
00:17 LeadHead @_@
00:17 Cprossu come on, what could this bearing cost?
00:18 Seroster Cost efficiency is irrelevant
00:18 Cprossu if it's <$20 it's worth it to replace it
00:18 Seroster I could buy a brand new damn wheel for $20
00:18 Cprossu otherwise you'll have to do it again
00:18 Ponko92 captian has nothing to say lol
00:18 Seroster Complete with tube and tyre.
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00:18 aEx155 CPU-Z isn't for linux...
00:18 LeadHead and I say you're idiotic for not doing so then
00:18 Cprossu then why don't you do that?
00:18 aEx155 maybe I can find an alternative
00:18 Cprossu ooooh
00:18 Seroster Because there is no reason to
00:18 Cprossu sorry I am to blame for that
00:18 Ponko92 you know why tubeless tyres are better than tubed?
00:18 Seroster When I can fix what I already have I prefer that over getting new.
00:18 Cprossu yeah you can use lots of things... but.... hrmmm
00:18 Seroster Harder to get a leak?
00:19 LeadHead You can't fix a bearing
00:19 Seroster Yes you can.
00:19 aEx155 Seroster could probably get a little more use out of it before having to buy a new one
00:19 Ponko92 slowly deflats and less parts
00:19 LeadHead Yes, I suppose
00:19 Cprossu aEx155: dmidecode -d /dev/mem
00:19 LeadHead but it will fail
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00:19 Ponko92 bikes don't have tubeless tyres do they?
00:20 LeadHead a lot sooner than if he had just spent the $3 at a bearing house for a new one
00:20 LeadHead most bikes cannot run tubeless tires because you can't really seal the spokes
00:20 Ponko92 as in motorbikes not push bikes
00:20 LeadHead if you have a solid rim you could
00:20 LeadHead motorbikes
00:20 LeadHead Solid wheels you could
00:20 Seroster This is not a bearing that will deal with 250kg running 120kph. This bearing will deal with around 75kg running at average 15kph. And I'll do a complete overhaul in august, so I won't bother changing it out until then. And for the record, I could run over 2000km on this bearing without problem.
00:21 LeadHead there is this thing called "tubliss" for motorcycle tires with spokes
00:21 Ponko92 yeah push ones would be a pain but lots of fun to see lol
00:21 LeadHead it seals to the inside of the wheel, blocking of all the spokes
00:21 LeadHead so you can run tubeless tires
00:21 Ponko92 they have spoke rims on cars
00:21 DruidicRifleman tggconsole what are you guys working on?
00:21 Ponko92 so possibly
00:21 aEx155 Cprossu where should I look to find RAM speed?
00:21 LeadHead I really, really doubt that bearing would last 2000km, even at 15kph
00:21 Cprossu what was the output of that mess
00:22 Seroster You want to bet on that, lead?
00:22 LeadHead Yup
00:22 aEx155 Cprossu a gigantic list of a lot of data
00:22 Ponko92 how often do you change your oil on you car Leadhead?
00:22 exor674 any progress at all? or is it still just sitting there looking pretty?
00:22 Cprossu Ahh ok, so you guys are verifying the function of your sig gen?
00:22 Seroster I bet $50. That would get me about two dozen new bearings.
00:22 Cprossu *sig/sync
00:22 Seroster I know this fix works. I have used it before, and this bearing wasn't BAD, it was just a bit tired.
00:23 LeadHead I'll do every 3000 miles once the truck is back on the road
00:23 LeadHead for my dirt-bike, I do every 5-8 engine hours.
00:23 Ponko92 yeah push ones would be a pain but lots of fun to see lol?
00:23 DruidicRifleman tggconsole ah Soooo whats the compleation status on the galactic control center for the Geek groups goal of global domination?
00:23 JA12 you're still talking about that bearing. unbelievable
00:23 aEx155 lol
00:23 Seroster Lol, it sure is, but I wanted to quit that discussion about half an hour ago
00:23 Cprossu tggconsole does the sync gen have it's own internal or external power supply? verify operation and voltages there-
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00:24 tmbomber Hiya everybody!!!
00:24 Seroster Ahoy tmbomber
00:24 Ponko92 bikes is where i draw blanks lol
00:24 LeadHead my bike only holds half a liter of oil
00:24 LeadHead and it has a 56HP engine
00:24 JA12 Seroster: nah. bearings are fun. just change the subject something like an air bearing :D
00:24 LeadHead so it needs to be changed often
00:24 Ponko92 how many cylinders
00:24 LeadHead single
00:24 LeadHead 450 cc
00:24 aEx155 okay, I found my memory devices: 2GB 667 MHz, 512MB 533 MHz
00:25 Ponko92 ah so that must be a moped
00:25 Cprossu I mean is the internal power supply of the sync gen outputting the proper voltages? no dried out caps, etc?
00:25 LeadHead its a dirt-bike
00:25 Seroster I wouldnt recognize a motorbike even if it ran over me, but you bet your ass I know my pedal bikes.
00:25 Ponko92 oh yeah you said sorry
00:25 LeadHead http://www.motorcycledaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2001/04/043001crf450rtop.JPG
00:25 LeadHead that one
00:25 Ponko92 is that why it sound like it does
00:26 Ponko92 dirt-bikes in general
00:26 LeadHead whaat about them
00:26 aEx155 I have nothing on current speed of memory
00:26 tmbomber I see Cory working at his desk, Cory! You listening in here???
00:26 aEx155 use his nick
00:26 aEx155 tggcory
00:26 tmbomber (gotya)
00:27 Ponko92 hmmm brb LeadHead
00:27 LeadHead aite
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00:27 Cprossu tggconsole: http://www.piclist.com/techref/io/video/ntsc/st3fig4t.gif <-does this help any? can you hook the output of each  sync gen signal to the vectorscope?????
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00:28 Cprossu oooh k
00:29 Cprossu should I upload pic to tinypic?
00:29 wannabe1987 yes
00:29 Cprossu ok
00:29 Ponko92 ok LeadHead i have returned
00:30 DavidJKuhr @ Cprossu  I am slowly catching up to you guys on F@H
00:30 Cprossu good deal
00:30 DavidJKuhr I have a long way to go yet though
00:30 LeadHead Folding
00:30 Cprossu if you want me to mess that up for you, I can
00:30 LeadHead I remember when I used to Fold for XtremeSystems
00:30 Cprossu I remember when I folded for rage3d
00:30 CaptainBoden Console, give us an update, I just popped in, what's the status there?
00:30 Cprossu then madonion.com
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00:31 Cprossu LeadHead: were you an old school benchmarker?
00:31 LeadHead no
00:31 CaptainBoden Is it working yet?
00:31 Cprossu neg
00:31 CaptainBoden any progress on intercoms?
00:31 LeadHead I used to keep my computer fairly upto the "times"
00:31 LeadHead but I've been way behind these past 2-3 years
00:31 Ponko92 tggcory is editing vid i presume
00:32 LeadHead I still have DDR1  in my main computer
00:32 Cprossu LeadHead: that's ok, heh
00:32 CaptainBoden Are you editing?
00:32 CaptainBoden what
00:32 LeadHead A little bit right now yeah
00:32 LeadHead is what I heard
00:32 Cprossu LeadHead: what proc?
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00:32 LeadHead Opteron 165 Dual Core @ 2.7GHz
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00:32 CaptainBoden Cory, detailed editing status?
00:32 Cprossu nice chip
00:33 Cprossu socket 940??
00:33 LeadHead 939
00:33 tggcory Just a sec
00:33 Cprossu ok
00:33 LeadHead Used to be good, but shes starting to struggle now
00:33 Cprossu so no reg ddr heh
00:33 Cprossu still a nice chip though
00:33 LeadHead I can use regular DDR since its socket 939
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00:33 LeadHead 940 requires special
00:33 Cprossu what you running on your graphics?
00:33 wannabe1987 uhoh
00:33 wannabe1987 botsteve pinged out
00:33 LeadHead Radeon HD4770
00:33 tggcory I was working on the breadmaker video, restarted my computer, and now my computer doesn't see the network drives
00:33 CaptainBoden Joe....reboot Cory, he's lagging.
00:33 LeadHead decent mid-range card
00:33 tggcory so I am figuring that out
00:33 Cprossu not bad at all
00:34 Ponko92 haha
00:34 CaptainBoden k
00:34 LeadHead Anyone else having issues with FireFox 4 consuming 700MB+ Ram?
00:34 CaptainBoden Have we got a episode uploading today?
00:35 Cprossu BTW let me know if you need any obscure materials that you can't find... I've tracked down a really old GVG engineer who retired down here, but I don't want to bother him until we are a bit further along with fewer options
00:35 CaptainBoden ok, so long as you can make that happen (We need one a day, tha'ts the goal) then you can work on the intercoms.
00:35 CaptainBoden Also, fix the title on the FIRST Radiation video to look more like the second
00:35 CaptainBoden Steve, move the camera to the other end of the console please
00:36 CaptainBoden and reroute cabling, it would probably work better permanantly located on the other end
00:36 ol10ol hi
00:36 LeadHead Looks like the delay is around 15+ Seconds now
00:36 Cprossu I'm reloading my vid
00:36 tmbomber I sent an email with updated title and tags. Has that been implemented.
00:36 Ponko92 damn
00:36 Cprossu to see if it decreases
00:36 Ponko92 sounds like a plan that
00:36 tmbomber for the radiation videos that is.
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00:37 Cprossu awesome, a ad for the linux foundation just popped up on the ustream channel lol
00:37 CaptainBoden Don't tray the cable (we move it too much, I was thinking away from the walkway, back by the wall, off the end of the console.
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00:37 exor674 aw 2nd vid isn't live yet :'(
00:37 Obtuse_ heyo
00:37 LeadHead @CaptainBoden , have you noticed if the radiation video is accumulating views more rapidly than others?
00:37 wannabe1987 hi obtuse_
00:37 CaptainBoden Gives us good view od con, plus we can pan it would for when there's a group hanging out editing and have it a lot closer
00:37 Cprossu man camera 4 is still yellower than.....urine
00:37 Obtuse_ hey wnnabe
00:38 Ponko92 so move it from the east side to the west do you mean?
00:38 LeadHead Everyone seems to be obsessed with Japan
00:38 wannabe1987 how ya feelin?
00:38 aEx155 MOST INTERESTING VIEW EVER
00:38 Cprossu have they looked for a wrong filter setting already?
00:38 Ponko92 i'm geared up for this
00:38 Obtuse_ I'm obsessed with japan because it may mean that i have to take paid time off
00:38 Obtuse_ i mean unpaid
00:38 Obtuse_ time off
00:39 wannabe1987 obtuse_ why
00:39 Obtuse_ our company uses a renesance microcontroller that was fabricated in the path of the tsunami
00:39 Ponko92 hello tggcory
00:39 Obtuse_ and it might not be online again for a long time
00:39 Cprossu oooh i see
00:39 LeadHead Is this a custom one off part?
00:39 Hackbat oh, the second video is up?
00:39 Obtuse_ no its a normal production part
00:40 LeadHead Who's it manufacturered by?
00:40 LeadHead if I may ask
00:40 Obtuse_ but they only make one part in one plas
00:40 Obtuse_ renasas
00:40 wannabe1987 that sucks
00:40 LeadHead hum
00:40 Obtuse_ very popular in automotive
00:40 Ponko92 is it a sort of recon device?
00:40 wannabe1987 thats right your at JCI
00:40 Cprossu http://www.livestream.com/cprossu <- lol my detectors agree for some reason!
00:40 Ponko92 who is geared up for this view as much as i am lol
00:41 Obtuse_ they are also heavily reliable
00:41 LeadHead Hm
00:41 Obtuse_ in a year and a half of failure analysis i have only seen 2 fail
00:41 Obtuse_ and we use A LOT
00:41 Cprossu tggconsole: we've got some new phono 'hum'
00:41 Ponko92 wait what?
00:42 LeadHead 2 out of thousands?
00:42 LeadHead millions?
00:42 Obtuse_ millions
00:42 LeadHead Impressive
00:42 Obtuse_ about 1 million
00:42 Obtuse_ less than 4 ppm is incredible
00:42 LeadHead What company do you work for?
00:42 Cprossu does anyone else hear the hum?
00:42 Ponko92 wow
00:42 Obtuse_ Johnson Controls International
00:42 LeadHead Cprossu: I hear hum
00:42 Obtuse_ Automotive
00:42 LeadHead Do you deal with batteries too then?
00:43 Ponko92 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldyx3KHOFXw
00:43 Obtuse_ I'm hoping my next job will be in battery management actually
00:43 Ponko92 wait did someone mention cars?
00:43 Cprossu Obtuse_: we've got some very old stuff of yours on switchgear at the college I used to work at
00:43 LeadHead You guys just bought recaro too, didn't you?
00:43 Ponko92 other than that video
00:43 Obtuse_ cool Cprossu
00:43 aEx155 anyone know of a good linux alternative to linux?
00:43 Cprossu it had an 8 bit microprocessor too
00:43 exor674 linux?
00:43 Ponko92 i am intrigued LeadHead Obtuse_
00:43 Cprossu all TTL logic
00:43 Obtuse_ ooo aEX... BSD
00:43 Obtuse_ good luck
00:44 Cprossu and it was stacked like 7 boards thick
00:44 aEx155 I mean, a linux alternative to iTunes
00:44 Seroster ANything interesting going on live?
00:44 DruidicRifleman tggconsole whats with the boring veiw of the set
00:44 aEx155 Seroster there's this gear...
00:44 aEx155 they're moving the main camera
00:44 aEx155 so thhey switched cmaeras
00:44 LeadHead aEx155 try Songbird
00:45 aEx155 I have, but they dropped support for linux so things aren't really working
00:45 Ponko92 Obtuse_ does your compant deal with cars?
00:45 Ponko92 company?
00:45 Obtuse_ yes.
00:45 Ponko92 oh what field?
00:45 Cprossu actually Obtuse_: you live in AZ???
00:45 Ponko92 electronics
00:45 LeadHead Johnson Controls makes just damn near everything
00:45 Obtuse_ lol. i'm In GR, MICH
00:45 Cprossu ahh ok
00:46 LeadHead Optima and AutoZone Duralast batteries are both made by Johnson Controls
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00:46 Obtuse_ we make Bluetooth integrated systems, compass units, clusters (Fuel, speedometer)
00:46 Ponko92 now i'm intrigued to know more about your company Obtuse_
00:46 Obtuse_ Homelink (Garage door openener)
00:46 Obtuse_ and a lot of different seating and trim that goes into vehicles
00:46 LeadHead So you'd work on stuff like Ford Sync?
00:47 Obtuse_ www.jci.com
00:47 Obtuse_ I've test ford sync. its shit
00:47 Obtuse_ marketed well
00:47 Ponko92 don't do anything for Porsche AG do you?
00:47 Obtuse_ doesn't work for shit
00:47 CaptainBoden WTF bars guys?
00:47 Cprossu Obtuse_: I must be frank with you, it was shit lol
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00:48 Ponko92 Obtuse_ do they deal with Porsche AG?
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00:48 wannabe1987 batsteve!
00:48 LeadHead We have a 2012 Mustang in the autoshop right now for a competition, but we haven't played around with the sync yet
00:48 wannabe1987 botsteve pinged out :(
00:48 Obtuse_ We make BT systems for Honda, Mazda, Mitsubishi, and have an aftermarket product
00:48 Seroster Bwahahah =D
00:48 LeadHead Electrical system in the latest mustangs is insane
00:48 Ponko92 i know ah so thats why you had the involvement with Japan
00:49 CaptainBoden CONSOLE
00:49 CaptainBoden Or CORY
00:49 CaptainBoden Or SOMEONE
00:49 CaptainBoden Why it is on bars?
00:49 CaptainBoden lol
00:49 Cprossu actually you want to see something insane? go look at a chrysler 300
00:49 Cprossu it's got modules for everything
00:49 LeadHead If the Body Control Module in the trunk goes out
00:49 Obtuse_ its also why i get to work on stuff at 8 pm at night.
00:49 Cprossu like 9-+ modules
00:49 LeadHead you loose reverse lights
00:49 Obtuse_ and 7 am in the morning
00:49 Ponko92 go look at the Porsche 911 GT2 RS
00:49 CaptainBoden Prove it
00:49 LeadHead turn signals, and brake lights
00:49 Cprossu and if you cut the CAN bus in the right spot
00:49 LeadHead CAN Bus
00:49 LeadHead oh god
00:49 Cj1corbystarlet YEAH there woking and a visual test bar why ??
00:49 tggconsole consele here
00:49 Cprossu the headlights will flash on and off and the wipers will go
00:49 * eightbitbrad sneaks back in
00:50 Cprossu (cut the wire on the climate control so it's open, not short to ground)
00:50 LeadHead yup, if the BCM goes bad, you loose most interior lighting as well
00:50 Cprossu then everything downstream messes up
00:50 Cprossu and it messes up on failsafe
00:50 CaptainBoden Console.....give us a camera feed
00:50 tggconsole CaptainBoden
00:50 Cprossu so headlights and wipers on
00:50 LeadHead oh yeah, I have the entire service manual for the 2012 mustang
00:50 LeadHead all the front instrument panel buttons
00:50 Seroster Youtube search for American Cop and you get this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibSwITK4jjQ          Do the same for Swedish Cop and you get this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_61s62WKVio         And English cop this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V64hoAlKQ8U   That amuses me on a deep deeep level.
00:50 CaptainBoden THANK YOU!
00:50 LeadHead don't)actually_control_anything
00:50 CaptainBoden That's much better
00:50 CaptainBoden ok Steve, what's up
00:51 Ponko92 people think the ECU does everything actually the Battery does ;)
00:51 Cprossu LeadHead: is it true fords' been thinking of going to a completely wireless module set?
00:51 LeadHead They go to a module, which then communicates to whatever device the button is trying to control
00:51 LeadHead I have no idea
00:51 Cprossu -4V is kinda weird
00:51 LeadHead we just have this thing for the Ford AAA Troubleshooting competition
00:52 Ponko92 AC?
00:52 Obtuse_ why is -4 weird?
00:52 Cprossu are you sure the internal power supply to the sync gen is outputting correct voltages?
00:52 Cprossu pop the top follow the wires
00:52 Cprossu is all I can say
00:52 Sgt_Lemming might not be wires
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00:52 Sgt_Lemming might be traces on a multilayer pcb
00:52 Sgt_Lemming which makes it damned impossible to trace
00:52 Cprossu there's gotta be a few wires
00:52 Cj1corbystarlet board mount maybe
00:52 LeadHead The instrument cluster actually has the VIN stored in it, it will do a lookup on the VIN internally, determine what modules and features the car should have in it, then start polling the CAN bus to make sure everything is actually there
00:53 Cprossu the power supply section is almost guaranteed to be separate
00:53 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu, not in all the ones I have seen
00:53 Cprossu then again I deal with REALLY OLD hardware
00:53 Cprossu so I could be talking outa my ass
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00:53 LeadHead The only nice thing about CAN Bus technology is that with one scan tool (Ford VCM)
00:53 LeadHead you can pretty much diagnose every single thing in the car
00:54 LeadHead including the radio
00:54 Cj1corbystarlet colour scope , they should be banned !
00:54 tmbomber Ok, now I have O-Scope envy.
00:54 Obtuse_ Leadhead, where do you work?
00:54 CaptainBoden That may have a video out ;)
00:54 Sgt_Lemming there might be a seperate main supply at 12v, but after that it tends to be all on one board
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00:54 eightbitbrad oh that would be awesome
00:54 Sgt_Lemming no VGA output?
00:54 Cprossu LeadHead: have you ever used the autoenginuity interface?
00:54 LeadHead I don't work
00:54 Cj1corbystarlet yes
00:54 LeadHead Student
00:54 Cprossu the software and interface work very well
00:55 Ponko92 that looks pretty high tech lol
00:55 LeadHead We'll be taking the car back to the dealership this week
00:55 LeadHead and we'll be using ford dealer diagnostics tools
00:55 LeadHead which will be pretty cool
00:55 Obtuse_ LeadHead, you won't have a hard time getting a job in auto if you can talk like this
00:55 Cj1corbystarlet -4.22
00:55 Ponko92 what car is that
00:55 Obtuse_ especially if you came to detroit
00:55 tmbomber Much beter than the one we were using in the videos earlier this week.
00:55 LeadHead 2012 Mustang
00:55 Cprossu I personally like doing automotive wiring
00:55 Ponko92 which car LeadHead?
00:55 Ponko92 what car sorry
00:56 LeadHead 2012 Mustang V6 Premium
00:56 LeadHead Automatic
00:56 Ponko92 ahhh
00:56 Ponko92 auto? why
00:56 Ponko92 lol
00:56 LeadHead Wrenching on cars is not my thing
00:56 Cprossu My last project involved running a 2003 2.2L pushrod S10 engine with a '94 engine computer on an engine stand
00:56 LeadHead but
00:56 Cprossu I made the wiring diagram myself too
00:56 LeadHead pusuing a career in some kind of engineering
00:56 Ponko92 it makes you know that your pulling it along
00:56 Cprossu hrmmmmm......
00:57 Obtuse_ yea, LeadHead, you're going to go far. I didn't even know what canbus was when i got a job
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00:57 Ponko92 ah don't make repairing the damn thing hard on me ok LeadHead ;)
00:57 LeadHead I've been leaning towards civil engineering
00:57 LeadHead so I'll be makin buildings and roads
00:57 Ponko92 ahhh ok
00:57 LeadHead not cars
00:57 Ponko92 thats a noble career choice
00:57 Obtuse_ I don't want to do civil. I don't want to be responsible for anyone dieing on a road
00:57 Cprossu tggconsole: this doesn't look quite right
00:57 Obtuse_ or bridge
00:57 LeadHead mainly because civil engineers tend to go out into the field more
00:57 LeadHead I hate being locked up inside a cubicle all day
00:57 Obtuse_ yea, engineers work in cubes
00:58 Ponko92 make the roads so rough and bumpy that i'm kept rich and busy ;)
00:58 Ponko92 lol
00:58 Cprossu is the vectorscope still hooked to the switcher?
00:58 Sgt_Lemming I'm working on doing Mechanical Engineering specializing in Infomechatronics
00:58 Ponko92 Obtuse_ like in Dilbert
00:58 Cprossu because this isn't making sense
00:58 wannabe1987 stg_lemming what is "infomechatronics"?
00:58 mman454 So from the logs I take it someone is having trouble with a ford mustang?
00:59 LeadHead No
00:59 Cprossu but it'll give us an overview
00:59 Obtuse_ Dilbert is funny now
00:59 Cprossu hrmm
00:59 Sgt_Lemming Combination of electronics, information systems and mechanical engineering wannabe1987
00:59 Obtuse_ it sucks
00:59 LeadHead Its For the Ford AAA Troubleshooting Competition
00:59 Ponko92 yes it is
00:59 wannabe1987 sounds...fun
00:59 Cprossu I don't have a relative plane to compare this to at this point
00:59 mman454 ok
00:59 Sgt_Lemming basically deals with interfacing computer systems with mechanical systems
00:59 Ponko92 i'm on there mailing list
00:59 Sgt_Lemming i.e. robots :-P
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00:59 wannabe1987 hi cctoide
00:59 wannabe1987 hi batman
01:00 wannabe1987 aren't you playing zomb tonight, bat-mobile?
01:00 Ponko92 Obtuse_ the cartoon wasn't that funny
01:00 Bat-Mobile wannabe1987: there's a difference between me and the batman from the videos, sadly
01:00 cctoide Bat-Mobile is BatSteve, not batman
01:00 Cprossu ok that looks normal
01:00 wannabe1987 ...
01:00 wannabe1987 that sucks
01:00 Ponko92 it had lou from Home Alone but thats not the point
01:00 Cprossu I've seen way worse
01:00 wannabe1987 you should still be playing zomb ! :D
01:00 cctoide hm, so there's something I don't get
01:01 Cprossu can you layer another sig ontop of it with another input?
01:01 cctoide whenever the connection drops on me over here, X-Chat tries to reconnect but keeps failing with "unknown host"
01:01 cctoide until I do a ipconfig /flushdns
01:01 aEx155 Bat-Mobile is the guy who kicked lwq1996 USING HIS PHONE
01:01 Cprossu good question
01:01 LeadHead Delay seems pretty minimal now
01:01 Cprossu this is the blanking sig right
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01:01 Cprossu ahh lets' do blanking
01:01 Cprossu yeah
01:01 Bat-Mobile oh yeah
01:01 Cprossu make sure delay is 0
01:02 Bat-Mobile speaking of that, I should probably remove that ban
01:02 Ponko92 Terminator?
01:02 wannabe1987 lol
01:02 Ponko92 where is Sarah Conner
01:02 cctoide scope looks fancy
01:02 Sgt_Lemming I'm guessing signal path terminator
01:02 Sgt_Lemming basically a resistor
01:02 Ponko92 yes i figured as much
01:02 Ponko92 lol
01:03 * Sgt_Lemming has bad memories of SCSI terminators
01:03 Sgt_Lemming so much annoyingness
01:03 LeadHead I've got two SCSI drives in this computer right now
01:03 LeadHead U160
01:03 LeadHead oldskewl
01:03 * Sgt_Lemming hugs his two SAS drives
01:04 LeadHead Old IBM 10,000 RPM 73GB thing
01:04 LeadHead faster than my 320GB Seagate
01:04 Ponko92 oh how do i get my G2 rating bacl
01:04 Ponko92 i think someone has
01:04 Sgt_Lemming 15Krpm magnetic bearing 600GB drives :-P
01:04 LeadHead I'll wait until they start showing up on e-bay dirt cheap in a few years
01:04 LeadHead :P
01:05 Photon939 I've got a 15,000 rpm drive but it's only 73gb
01:05 Sgt_Lemming soo fast but soo quiet
01:05 Sgt_Lemming now to make you go WTF
01:05 Photon939 only makes noise when seeking
01:05 mman454 leadhead: "The instrument cluster actually has the VIN stored in it, it will do a lookup on the VIN internally, determine what modules and features the car should have in it, then start polling the CAN bus to make sure everything is actually there"
01:05 Sgt_Lemming they are in a mini-itx gaming rig :-P
01:05 Hackbat Cory D: I realized my Boyfriend is your doppleganger.
01:05 mman454 Isn't that the job of the bcm?
01:05 Hackbat It's freaky
01:05 Ponko92 wow 15000? thats almost the same amount of revs a F1 car makes
01:05 LeadHead the BCM in this case just controls lighting
01:05 LeadHead as far as i can tell
01:05 Ponko92 19000
01:05 Cprossu we can only hope
01:05 LeadHead smart junction box controls everything else
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01:06 Ponko92 Hackbat if you want to have him see that use his nickname
01:06 Cprossu try changing out that coax
01:06 Ponko92 (tggcory)
01:06 Cprossu I don't think that's the unit
01:06 Hackbat thought he was at the console >_<
01:06 Cprossu wow
01:06 Ponko92 no thats steve
01:06 Cprossu what are you doing for grounds?
01:07 Hackbat nooo
01:07 Hackbat I mean I thought  heard him
01:07 Cprossu ground the scope to the sync gen
01:07 Hackbat something about pretzels
01:07 * Sgt_Lemming hopes steve has seen "Cloudy with a chance of meatballs"
01:07 CaptainBoden Hey Steve, radio reccomendations? What do you think of this http://www.amazon.com/Quad-Band-Yaesu-Submersible-Amateur-Transceiver/dp/B004MAKK7W
01:07 Ponko92 yeah he's on as his nick and steve is tggconsole
01:07 tggconsole hello
01:07 Cprossu yeah ground the scope case/frame to the signal gen
01:08 Ponko92 steve why am i thinking Uzi 9mm
01:08 exor674 ooo is that signal?
01:08 Cprossu yeah but it doesn't always work that way
01:08 Cprossu what about the ground to the left of the floppy drive?
01:08 Sgt_Lemming I can't speak/hear of anyone named steve without thinking of that movie
01:08 Cprossu is it a ground?
01:08 Hackbat tggcory, I figured out a while back that my boyfriend is your doppleganger D:
01:08 Cprossu bannanna plug hopefully?
01:08 Bat-Mobile Sgt_Lemming: neither can I.  it has made my life immeasurably more interesting
01:08 Cj1corbystarlet looks like a wierd ground if it is
01:09 tggcory wat :V
01:09 Sgt_Lemming indeed Bat-Mobile
01:09 DavidJKuhr paperclip
01:09 Cprossu There has to be some around that lab... there might be an adaptor in that box of stuff
01:09 DavidJKuhr lol
01:09 Cprossu (the plastic organiser)
01:09 Cj1corbystarlet PPPPPP
01:09 Sgt_Lemming mebe tggcory has a long lost twin he doesn't know about :-P
01:09 LeadHead Random Hunk Of Wire
01:09 Ponko92 get Sarah Conor
01:10 Cprossu that mess doesn't look like 60hz either,
01:10 Cprossu but it's too fuzzy
01:10 Ponko92 or let the terminator do that
01:10 Cj1corbystarlet back in sec
01:10 Hackbat tggcory, He's a chubby guy with glasses and curly hair that loves Dr. who and tacos
01:10 tggcory Oh lord xD
01:10 Ponko92 tggcory GET TO THE CHOPPER
01:10 Obtuse_ Tektronix makes the best scopes
01:11 Obtuse_ or at least the ones i have been brainwashed to use
01:11 Sgt_Lemming HP make awesome scopes
01:11 Sgt_Lemming soo hexspensive though
01:11 Ponko92 oh god
01:11 LeadHead Isn't it Agilent now?
01:11 DavidJKuhr to me any scope that is a vailable and works when i need it is the best at the time
01:11 Ponko92 tggcory PUT THAT COOKIE DOWN NOW
01:11 Obtuse_ i don't like agilent scopes
01:11 Obtuse_ they feel weird
01:11 LeadHead I thought HP was Agilent?
01:12 Cprossu darn. I was hoping we'd get lucky
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01:12 Sgt_Lemming it looks a tiny bit cleaner
01:12 Sgt_Lemming not much though
01:12 Cprossu not enough
01:12 Cprossu hrmmmm
01:13 Cprossu no way in hell this can be used as a ref sig
01:13 Cprossu switch probes
01:13 Cprossu just for the hell of it
01:13 mman454 whose oscope is that
01:13 Cprossu yes
01:13 mman454 and you are?
01:14 mman454 Yes whose voice is that?
01:14 mman454 Thank you steve
01:14 Sgt_Lemming Bat-Mobile STEVE!
01:14 Ponko92 we love you steve
01:14 Cprossu do you have anything inverted by mistake?
01:14 tggconsole hello, I'm steve
01:14 mman454 ok
01:14 Bat-Mobile Sgt_Lemming: GUMMI BEARS
01:14 Ponko92 we love tgg in general :)
01:15 LeadHead delay seems to only be a few seconds now
01:15 LeadHead odd
01:15 ol10ol hi steve
01:15 Cprossu well trigger on the other sig
01:15 mman454 tggconsole GAME
01:15 tmbomber Steve, are you the same guy that showed me the Ninja board with the 644 Atmega chip on it???
01:15 Sgt_Lemming fucking rofl
01:15 Cj1corbystarlet Maybe the unit was removed from service because its rooted ??
01:15 Cprossu wow this is interesting
01:15 DavidJKuhr well I am all you all have a good one
01:15 Cprossu yeah
01:15 Ponko92 oh god @bat-mobile oh imma gummi bear
01:15 Ponko92 lol
01:15 Sgt_Lemming tggconsole you need to watch that movie I mentioned before
01:15 Cprossu zoom in
01:15 mman454 tggconsole What are you scoping?
01:15 tggconsole cloudy with a chance of meatballs?
01:15 Sgt_Lemming especially after your comment about gummibears then
01:15 Cprossu on that black burst
01:16 Sgt_Lemming yeah
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01:16 Cprossu just want to see
01:16 CSMonster back.  what'd i miss?
01:16 tggconsole yes I have seen it
01:16 ol10ol out put in what?
01:16 Cprossu the specific wave quick
01:16 Sgt_Lemming kk, good
01:16 wannabe1987 CSMonster - lots!
01:16 Cprossu (aka the burst)
01:16 wannabe1987 idk what all tho :P
01:16 CSMonster i see a 3.5" floppy drive
01:16 wannabe1987 i'm not watching :(
01:16 Cprossu nah I mean on that sig
01:16 ol10ol output in what?
01:16 wannabe1987 slows down my lil puter...
01:16 wannabe1987 so sad
01:16 Cprossu the up/down/up/down etc
01:16 CSMonster :)
01:16 mman454 wtf is the unit?
01:16 Cprossu is the burst part of it
01:16 Sgt_Lemming quite a comon one on scopes CSMonster
01:16 Ponko92 tggcory which of the 11 Doctors is your favourite
01:16 wannabe1987 i have musics playing tho!
01:17 CSMonster if you say so sgt
01:17 Cprossu I want to see if it's what it should be
01:17 Sgt_Lemming high end scopes
01:17 Cprossu hrmmmmm
01:17 Photon939 wiggly
01:17 Sgt_Lemming thats rather trippy
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01:17 CSMonster what are we looking at?  the audio compressor?
01:17 Cprossu that looks damn nice
01:17 wannabe1987 THAERY!!!! hi novel :D
01:17 LeadHead sync generator
01:17 CSMonster oh
01:17 cctoide hyperdimensional jumping rope
01:17 CSMonster k
01:17 mman454 I want that to be my new screensaver
01:17 CSMonster lol
01:17 Sgt_Lemming looks like a spinning triple helix
01:17 tggcory Hrm
01:17 Cprossu well the ground make that cleaner
01:18 Cprossu it's super sharp now
01:18 ol10ol what output?
01:18 tggcory Ten for now, but this season will be the point where Smith proves himself
01:18 Cprossu unplug the gen plug it in
01:18 mman454 Blackburst. WTF are you talking bout? Car stuff, video stuff, audio stuff?
01:18 Cprossu see if it varies
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01:18 Sgt_Lemming .w blackburst
01:18 Sgt_Lemming gah
01:18 mman454 .wiki blackburst
01:18 Sgt_Lemming no bot
01:18 ol10ol oo ok tnx
01:18 Cprossu ok good then
01:19 Ponko92 tggcory yeah well out of the past 10 which one is your favourite and do you have a favourite epsiode from them
01:19 mman454 both work
01:19 Cprossu lets look at out blanking sig once more
01:19 tggcory I'd say 10, and of course, Blink
01:19 Sgt_Lemming "In standard-definition applications, a bi-level sync signal, often with a colorburst signal in facilities that have analog equipment. Typically, this is either in NTSC or PAL format. As the resulting signal is usually indistinguishable from an all-black television signal of the same format, this sort of reference is commonly known as black or black burst."
01:19 Sgt_Lemming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_signal_generator
01:19 Josh____ just wondering, what are you doing? All i see is a blue screen.
01:19 Cprossu what other outputs are on our gen once more?
01:20 Cprossu I have it fine
01:20 mman454 no were not
01:20 Cprossu I see it just fine
01:20 Sgt_Lemming Josh____, that's your machine I think
01:20 CaptainBoden no, I have image
01:20 Cj1corbystarlet NO the video feed is OK
01:20 Sgt_Lemming image is fine for me
01:20 Sgt_Lemming all the way over here in brisbane
01:20 Sgt_Lemming :-P
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01:20 Josh____ iv got no adio
01:20 mman454 I am fucking tired of you people coming in here and bitching about problems that it is obvious to tell on your end.
01:21 mman454 we do
01:21 CSMonster lol
01:21 Josh____ **adieo
01:21 Cprossu yeah audio is fine
01:21 Cj1corbystarlet Yes australia is watching !
01:21 Sgt_Lemming Josh____, it's your computer. You need to check your machine
01:21 tmbomber Have audio
01:21 Cj1corbystarlet Audio is fine
01:21 aEx155 I have audio
01:21 Josh____ ??
01:21 CSMonster audio and video fine.
01:21 Sgt_Lemming try a different browser mebe
01:21 Sgt_Lemming update flash
01:21 LeadHead Brisbane
01:21 CaptainBoden Feed is 5x5, all good.
01:21 mman454 OK WE GET IT WE HAVE AUDIO
01:21 Sgt_Lemming update java
01:21 LeadHead australia
01:21 Sgt_Lemming yes LeadHead
01:21 LeadHead You're in like tommorow dudeeee
01:21 Hackbat I didn't agree D:<
01:21 eightbitbrad I think I need to add a .streamstatus to BotSteve while I'm hacking tonight.
01:21 Sgt_Lemming indeed
01:21 Sgt_Lemming it's 11:20am on sunday here
01:21 mman454 josh we understand in your case... blue screen is problem
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01:21 CaptainBoden I think he has a PEBKAC error.
01:21 Cprossu working on it
01:21 Bat-Mobile eightbitbrad: do it!
01:21 mman454 I'm going to smack you cory
01:22 mman454 lol jk
01:22 LeadHead 9:22 PM saturday
01:22 eightbitbrad It'd be a manual update for now, but it would be something.
01:22 Cprossu we stable now?
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01:22 Bat-Mobile oh.
01:22 Bat-Mobile that's less epic
01:22 Sgt_Lemming CaptainBoden PICNIC not PEBKAC :-P
01:22 CSMonster hey bat
01:22 Cprossu it's better
01:22 Cprossu sorta
01:22 eightbitbrad Bat-Mobile: I don't know that UStream has an API to query, it's something to look into though.
01:22 Bat-Mobile hey counter strike monster
01:23 Cprossu what other outputs do we have on the gen
01:23 mman454 cory: this is me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCDItbNHfu8&amp;feature=channel_video_title
01:23 mman454 remember me?
01:23 cctoide actually for some reason I always read it mentally as Christian Science Monster
01:23 Bat-Mobile Customer service management?
01:23 cctoide even though all I know about CSM is their name
01:23 Ponko92 everything is fine steve and UK is watching :)
01:23 CSMonster WHAT?
01:23 tggcory You're omni?!
01:23 CSMonster it's Caspian Sea Monster
01:23 tggcory WHAAAAAAAAAAT
01:23 wannabe1987 i love omni
01:23 mman454 tggcory Smart ass
01:23 Bat-Mobile (I actually knew that from yesterday)
01:23 CaptainBoden Never heard PICNIC
01:23 tggcory :3
01:24 CSMonster when the hell did we get on the topic of my name?
01:24 mman454 tggcory is testicle faceing?
01:24 LeadHead Is that a cat, cory?
01:24 Sgt_Lemming Problem In Chair, Not In Computer
01:24 Bat-Mobile when you said hello to me
01:24 Cprossu grab the sub carrier sig on the scope
01:24 CaptainBoden ahhhhh ok
01:24 Ponko92 wait Picnic? where
01:24 CSMonster oh lol i didn't notice that
01:24 mman454 damn...
01:24 Cprossu what hz is that oscillating at?
01:24 NeWtoz OH WOW
01:24 Sgt_Lemming gesundheit
01:25 NeWtoz SNEEZE
01:25 Cprossu not many, like .2
01:25 CSMonster LOL
01:25 mman454 lol
01:25 CSMonster mikemol epic sneeze
01:25 Cprossu ok, what hz is that oscillating at?
01:25 cctoide we have the BCU now
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01:25 Cj1corbystarlet check your testicles they may have come loose
01:25 mman454 LMFAO!
01:25 CSMonster LOL
01:25 Ponko92 no my laptop is not playing nve atm
01:25 Obtuse_ so what are we looking at?
01:26 Cprossu damn
01:26 Ponko92 ok i might have it under control
01:26 Cprossu is there any audible high pitched whining from the gen?
01:26 Ponko92 yes its copacetic
01:26 Cprossu put ear on it
01:26 Cprossu unplug it
01:26 tmbomber Later everybody!!!
01:26 Cprossu plug it in
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01:26 Cprossu works for me lol
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01:26 CSMonster lol
01:26 mman454 "check your testicles they may have come loose" his response: somewher around 4khz
01:27 Cj1corbystarlet Can you move the unit away from any interferance
01:27 CSMonster LOL
01:27 Ponko92 well i'mma hit the hay at in about 5-35 mins time
01:27 Cj1corbystarlet ahh ok
01:27 Cprossu ok ignore this signal for now, hook up the sub carrier
01:28 Cprossu it should
01:28 Cprossu and that sucker is moving at what freq?
01:29 Cprossu because it's clean
01:29 mman454 that waveform is going "WEEEE!"
01:30 Cprossu exact
01:30 Obtuse_ ish
01:30 Obtuse_ love it
01:30 Cprossu that's what it's supposed to be
01:30 mman454 do I hear kidwell?
01:30 wannabe1987 its the voices in your head
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01:31 Cprossu ok so we got 2 signals right, why is the other...uh... messed around
01:31 Cprossu hmmm
01:31 * wannabe1987 this IRC sucks when you cannot watch the stream...:(
01:31 mman454 who was talking in the bacground
01:31 Cprossu oh you said you messed with the internal sync?
01:31 aEx155 Cory? CoderJoe?
01:31 CSMonster wannabe1987: GETONIT
01:31 SparkyProjects Is the trigger from the same input ? or are you referencing AC
01:31 wannabe1987 I CANNOT
01:31 Cprossu 3.5~ mhz nice
01:31 CSMonster TRY HARDER
01:31 Obtuse_ lol
01:31 wannabe1987 COMPUTER IS TOO SLOW
01:31 aEx155 yeah, lol
01:32 CSMonster LOL
01:32 cctoide murder lab next door?
01:32 Hackbat Sooooooory *trudges off*
01:32 mman454 lol
01:32 Cprossu nice
01:32 mman454 we know
01:32 Cprossu ok so go back to the blanking
01:32 CSMonster MCC is off limits for zombies
01:32 wannabe1987 yeah
01:32 Ponko92 some zomb is happening
01:32 wannabe1987 so are the studios
01:32 wannabe1987 zomb happens elswhere inteh building
01:32 wannabe1987 i'm not there right now, obviously
01:33 Cprossu now what?
01:33 CSMonster that was funny though
01:33 wannabe1987 we watch talledega nights
01:33 wannabe1987 talladega*
01:33 Cprossu sweet
01:33 Cprossu ok feed that shit into the gvg!
01:33 Cprossu lol
01:33 mman454 Not as god as your mom...
01:33 wannabe1987 lol the subtitles are like in swedish...
01:34 wannabe1987 seroster...
01:34 mman454 I'm sorry I'm out of it right now...
01:34 CSMonster mike's mom is god?
01:34 wannabe1987 can you stranslate for me?
01:34 mman454 lol
01:34 Cj1corbystarlet yo
01:34 mman454 I can't type right now...
01:34 Cprossu and our specific inputs on the gvg for the ref signal are labeled...YES!
01:34 Cprossu !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:34 Ponko92 ok my left ear is blocked so time for the old olive oil trick
01:34 mman454 wtf was that?
01:34 exor674 YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:35 cctoide shitjustgotreal.gif
01:35 Cprossu I love troubleshooting
01:35 Ponko92 yay
01:35 CSMonster LOL
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01:35 wannabe1987 det ar en pojke - whats that mean, seroster?
01:35 Obtuse_ k. now switch to a camera
01:35 Obtuse_ that i can see where things are doing stuff
01:35 mman454 tggcory... Switch cameras
01:35 Cprossu les' go
01:35 Seroster It is a boy
01:35 Obtuse_ YES!
01:35 CSMonster YES
01:35 Obtuse_ we can't see colors
01:36 Obtuse_ just the scope
01:36 Seroster det �r en pojke, it is a boy.
01:36 Cprossu we're still lookin at your scope so good
01:36 Ponko92 camera change now lol
01:36 Cprossu tggconsole: we are still looking at your scope
01:36 mman454 tggconsole we have no idea what you were trying to show... all we saw was the scope
01:37 Cprossu we can't trip on it we got the scope
01:37 NeWtoz we are so out of the loop
01:37 Cprossu lol
01:37 cctoide That's better
01:37 Cprossu nice
01:37 CaptainBoden Can I see the actual output and such?
01:37 mman454 yay
01:37 Cj1corbystarlet output it to the usteam feed
01:37 Ponko92 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldyx3KHOFXw
01:37 CaptainBoden There ya go
01:37 CaptainBoden LMFAO
01:37 CSMonster LOL
01:37 Ponko92 ya down stairs
01:37 CaptainBoden Awesome :)
01:37 Ponko92 lol
01:37 Cprossu CaptainBoden: I love troubleshooting shit heh
01:37 CaptainBoden Do we have a video feed to it?
01:37 Seroster How come, wannabe1987?
01:38 mman454 who ever said hi... I approve
01:38 Ponko92 green army
01:38 CaptainBoden It's rough, but it's a start!
01:38 wannabe1987 howcome waht?
01:38 cctoide early 90s music video effects?
01:38 wannabe1987 seroster - i torrented it...
01:38 Ponko92 lol cctoide
01:38 Seroster Lol
01:38 Seroster Wtf
01:38 Cprossu sorry I couldn't be there to help out physically though
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01:38 Ponko92 least it ain't 70's music effects or
01:38 Cprossu you still have a slight sync issue
01:38 Ponko92 ZANADOO
01:39 Cprossu WOW
01:39 Cprossu lol
01:39 Cprossu does that thing have a chroma key?
01:39 CaptainBoden I love how you're keying out the red background
01:39 cctoide now let everyone press buttons for 15 minutes
01:39 CaptainBoden STAR WIPE!
01:39 Cprossu yeah
01:39 mman454 HOLY SHIT!!!
01:39 cctoide ahahah
01:39 CaptainBoden *headdesk*
01:39 aEx155 nice
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01:39 CaptainBoden Welcome to 1985
01:39 Ponko92 hahaha
01:39 Cprossu do donn donnnn don bum bum
01:40 Ponko92 october 26th 1985?
01:40 cctoide needs more SFX
01:40 LeadHead This is like a revese back to the future.
01:40 mman454 captainboden: you asshole I'm going to have that song stuck in my kead now
01:40 Cprossu do eitttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
01:40 mman454 your mom
01:40 Obtuse_ MOAR INPUT!
01:40 exor674 +1
01:40 cctoide get Cory doing wooshes into the mic
01:40 exor674 OM NOM INPUTS!
01:40 CaptainBoden Me ;)
01:40 mman454 lol
01:40 Ponko92 yes
01:40 Ponko92 i do
01:40 Seroster Olol.
01:40 Cj1corbystarlet we need talent
01:40 Cprossu CaptainBoden: it's good when a plan and basic troubleshooting create a working monster, eh?
01:40 LeadHead Somone get an 80's Synthesizer up there
01:40 LeadHead for transistion sounds
01:40 Seroster I found a hilarious thing =P
01:41 cctoide or a slide whistle
01:41 CaptainBoden I love this, what you're seeing is EXACTLY what The Geek Group is about.
01:41 Cprossu man the video quality is much better
01:41 Cprossu through the gvg
01:41 Ponko92 CaptianBoden http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m1UWSD-FaA Xanadu :P
01:41 CaptainBoden yeah, show the crew, not the scope
01:42 Cprossu tggconsole: the video output therough the GVG is much clearer
01:42 Cprossu I like it
01:42 LeadHead Image quality makes it feel like I'm watching an early 90s sitcom
01:42 Cj1corbystarlet i see the camera stabilisation is up to shit :)
01:42 eightbitbrad It's a reality show!
01:42 LeadHead That's what it feels like
01:42 Cprossu the real wire world
01:42 exor674 a *real* reality show
01:42 exor674 not a most likely scripted
01:42 eightbitbrad Do we get to vote on who gets to do the dirty work?
01:42 exor674 "reality" show
01:42 Cj1corbystarlet who gets voted out tonight ?
01:43 cctoide vote people out of the gallery
01:43 LeadHead Cory
01:43 LeadHead Defintely cory
01:43 Ponko92 lol it certainly has that feel lol
01:43 eightbitbrad "Sorry Cory, IRC has spoken, you're doing toilets today"
01:43 Ponko92 haha
01:43 Obtuse_ no one. the reality show format is lame and must be abbondend
01:43 CSMonster LOL
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01:43 cctoide a-bodened
01:43 mman454 who said 8:43:09 PM) eightbitbrad: "Sorry Cory, IRC has spoken, you're doing toilets today"?
01:44 Cprossu CaptainBoden: sorry I don't live closer to you guys, we'd have had this sorted out days ago xD
01:44 Seroster Moment of truth (US) highest possible sum is $500.000 Moment of truth (SWE) highest possible sum is 500.000SEK.  One dollar == SEVEN SEK.  That means you only get half the price for the same answers here =P
01:44 Cj1corbystarlet dude progress has been made
01:44 cctoide why do red and red-like colors end up all interlaced?
01:44 eightbitbrad mman454: uh, me?
01:44 eightbitbrad [21:43] < eightbitbrad> "Sorry Cory, IRC has spoken, you're doing toilets today"
01:45 * CSMonster is waiting for something to explode
01:45 python50 \help
01:45 Cj1corbystarlet que smoke machine
01:45 LeadHead tggconsole remember to never cross the streams.
01:45 * exor674 throws a flashbang at CSMonster
01:46 Cprossu the gvg is so you can cross the streams =D
01:46 Ponko92 wow that song is soo freaking funny
01:46 CSMonster Кусай меня, exor674
01:46 eightbitbrad But Cprossu, I thought crossing the streams was bad?
01:46 Cprossu nah
01:47 Cprossu you guys should do it the old fashioned way
01:47 CSMonster lol
01:47 Ponko92 TANGO DOWN
01:47 * exor674 cheers!
01:47 Cprossu with gain
01:47 Ponko92 Threat Neutalised
01:47 Cprossu nah
01:47 Cprossu lol
01:47 CaptainBoden Good job Steve :)
01:47 Cprossu that stinkc
01:47 Cprossu *stinks and you know it
01:47 Ponko92 Steve you rock
01:47 CaptainBoden You should get that next camera working as well.
01:48 LeadHead Oh shi-
01:48 Obtuse_ nice!!!!
01:48 Ponko92 oh god
01:48 CaptainBoden There's a big Sony camera or two sitting down in the studio, they need to be working. That would be a SERIOUS improvement.
01:48 cctoide the 24 effect
01:48 cctoide events occur in real time
01:48 exor674 heee, that is...
01:48 eightbitbrad how long until there's 4 cams in the stream? hehe
01:48 eightbitbrad that's looking awesome
01:48 Ponko92 1990's
01:48 Cprossu man this rocks
01:48 LeadHead 90a?
01:48 LeadHead This feels more like 80s
01:49 Ponko92 yes thats what i meant
01:49 Cprossu it'll feel like the 90's soon enough
01:49 Cprossu then once we get the good cap card running
01:49 exor674 hee, that poor GVG box really gives it a good shot at least
01:49 Ponko92 Xanadu is reminisent
01:49 Cprossu it'll feel like early 2000
01:49 exor674 really tries
01:49 * CSMonster wishes she understood all this
01:49 Ponko92 oh god 1980'w
01:49 cctoide trolley cam still very yellow
01:49 Ponko92 tv
01:50 Cprossu isn't it just a filter
01:50 Cprossu on that cam?
01:50 Cprossu for the yellow
01:50 Cprossu or internal
01:50 Ponko92 coldplay song coming up
01:50 LeadHead Gotta' love analog video.
01:50 Ponko92 and it was all yellow
01:50 CaptainBoden Wanna come back tomorrow and play? Work it out with Cory and if you wanna hang out tomorrow, I'll feed ya ;)
01:50 wannabe1987 CSMonster - i agree...i'm kinda zoned out right now from IRC
01:50 Ponko92 lol
01:51 CaptainBoden k
01:51 Cprossu Damn my 2.2K mile limitation!
01:51 CaptainBoden I just figure with another day on this you could get a LOT accomplished.
01:51 CSMonster wannabe1987: i'm not zoned out, just... not good at this stuff.
01:51 CaptainBoden Don't worry about 4, it's a low priority.
01:51 Ponko92 damn my 7k mile limitation
01:51 wannabe1987 CSMonster - i don't understand it...sowhy pay attn?
01:51 exor674 are TBCs automatic or manual?
01:51 cctoide just need the Kuka on a trolley, then we can help
01:51 eightbitbrad yeah, I wish I were closer, but I'll do what I can from down here in Atlanta
01:51 CSMonster wannabe1987: because i'd like to learn something
01:52 wannabe1987 CSMonster - i cannot learn if i cannot understand.
01:52 Ponko92 i was in Atlanta recently
01:52 * python50 Says: Good Night Geek Group
01:52 CSMonster bye python50
01:52 wannabe1987 yay you survived atlanta!
01:52 wannabe1987 night!
01:52 Cprossu been fun, night!
01:53 Cprossu man we got good stuff done
01:53 Ponko92 well i was there for the Packers Divisional game
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01:53 Cprossu do you need me to look up any obscure info?
01:53 Ponko92 HOORAG
01:53 Cprossu *any more obscure info*
01:53 CaptainBoden Gnite guys
01:53 Cprossu good
01:53 CaptainBoden You did good today, I'm damn proud of you :)
01:53 wannabe1987 night captain
01:53 eightbitbrad g'night CaptainBoden
01:53 Ponko92 night CaptainBoden
01:53 Cj1corbystarlet night captn
01:53 CSMonster night CaptainBoden
01:54 cctoide later captain
01:54 Cprossu at this point cleaning up mess comes after functionality is my thinking
01:54 Ponko92 every step at a time
01:54 Ponko92 rome wasn't built in a day
01:54 cctoide Does all this stuff run hot or not really?
01:54 CSMonster er... you mean one step at a time?
01:55 Ponko92 -_- yes
01:55 Ponko92 grrr
01:55 aEx155 rome was built in steps?
01:55 Ponko92 no lol
01:55 Ponko92 idk
01:55 LeadHead 3 Easy Steps
01:55 LeadHead Send $19.99 to my PayPal, and I'll send you an instrunctional video
01:55 Cprossu much harder to trip over that!
01:56 Obtuse_ I like it
01:56 Cprossu it can still be done though
01:56 Cprossu lol
01:56 CSMonster lol
01:56 Cprossu oh one more thing
01:56 CSMonster tggcory still there?
01:56 Cprossu did you guys get to print off  a bodenhead yet?
01:56 Ponko92 exactly
01:56 Obtuse_ oh half between
01:56 Obtuse_ yes
01:57 cctoide still need a dunking bird up there
01:57 CaptainBoden Leave it normal, just like it is, and turn on the scanner
01:57 CaptainBoden The console is a good shot to look at.
01:57 Cprossu but yeah that low filter and stuff like it
01:57 CaptainBoden Don't move the boom mic, there's a mic over by the scanner
01:57 Cprossu is why I like my Tek 547 boatanchor
01:57 Ponko92 and this is where i take my leave i bid you adue fine folks :)
01:58 Cprossu (as it has none of that)
01:58 wannabe1987 "my name is jean girard"
01:58 Cprossu like I said, I love it because it has nothing of that matter
01:58 Cprossu if you don't know your way around the signal, good luck heh
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01:59 Cprossu http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv62/mikeinkcmo/testgear/Tek/5XX/P1010043_2.jpg <- mine is configured like the left hand side one
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01:59 Cprossu 4 inputs
01:59 exor674 hotclock isn't running though
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02:00 exor674 there it goes
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02:00 LeadHead you should move the camera over to get a better shot of the console
02:00 CSMonster would be cool if down the road it were set up to automatically, periodically switch camera feeds
02:01 Cprossu http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv62/mikeinkcmo/testgear/Tek/5XX/P1010043_2.jpg <- The scope on the left, the 4 input module
02:01 CSMonster idk if that's doable though
02:01 Cprossu mine is configured like this. I like it because you don't get any filtering/such.
02:01 Cprossu 50mhz bandwidth + some which is pretty good for a tube scope too
02:01 CSMonster lol\
02:02 Cj1corbystarlet button pushing robot is easy
02:02 Yaotzin R.O.B?
02:02 Cprossu the kuka might be a bit overpowered to press buttons
02:02 CSMonster LOL
02:02 CSMonster but it would definitely be something worth watching
02:02 Cj1corbystarlet i was no thinking that big
02:03 CSMonster purdy console
02:03 Cprossu we can see the failed digit in all it's glory
02:03 Yaotzin Kuka plays contra on the NES
02:03 Yaotzin Make it happen
02:03 Cj1corbystarlet not ex-wife ass big
02:03 Yaotzin Although isn't the kuka robot in a million pieces?
02:03 cctoide Just make the buttons bigger.
02:03 Cprossu Also look up at the photobucket link
02:04 LeadHead Is the lever the fade speed
02:04 Cprossu my old 547 mostly tube driven scope is configured like the one on the left
02:04 LeadHead for effects
02:04 Cprossu good for 50+ mhz, 4 input
02:04 cctoide They had more than one Kuka robot... I think?
02:04 cctoide like 2 or 3?
02:04 Cprossu you can trigger it on mostly anything you want
02:04 aEx155 it would be cool to have a small three axis actuator mounted in front of the console press buttons
02:04 Cprossu after 5 minutes it doesn't drift much either
02:04 Cj1corbystarlet my scopy looks like a old green radar screen
02:04 cctoide they were all called "Project <name>" after whoever got them in
02:05 cctoide iirc
02:05 Cprossu I'm gonna have to replace the lytics in it one day
02:05 Cprossu damn thing is 2x my age easily
02:05 aEx155 something like a x-y plotter with a z-axis to press buttons
02:05 cctoide it'd be interesting once you switched cameras and couldn't see the robot, heh
02:06 cctoide also robot control by committee
02:06 aEx155 you could just have it on IRC waiting for commands
02:06 LeadHead .consolebot
02:06 Cprossu IRC is credit to team too heh
02:06 aEx155 and commands in IRC would control
02:06 Hackbat ENGINEER IS CREDIT TO TEAM
02:06 Obtuse_ Steve is supreme
02:07 Cprossu Hackbat: you play TF2?
02:07 cctoide Steve pooshing little cart one step at a time
02:07 Hackbat lol yeah
02:07 aEx155 poosing
02:07 aEx155 darn
02:07 Cprossu we outa kill eachother some day
02:07 aEx155 I messed that up
02:07 CSMonster botsteve control the camera
02:07 Cprossu virtually I mean lol
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02:07 Yaotzin hmm
02:07 cctoide have BotSteve hold a vote for it
02:07 CSMonster ^
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02:08 Yaotzin Some sort of game that could be played by 2-4 people in control of 2-4 robots over a video stream with IRC commands
02:08 Yaotzin that'd pretty much be the most out there thing
02:08 CSMonster LOL
02:08 CSMonster i like that idea
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02:08 CSMonster irc-controlled hungry hungry hippos
02:08 aEx155 I wonder how you would deal with the lag
02:09 Yaotzin I mean I've played Uno, Spades, and D&D on IRC
02:09 cctoide it'd have to be turn based
02:09 Yaotzin it would have to be some kind of turn based game
02:09 Yaotzin were the lag wouldn't matter
02:09 Yaotzin just basic on off functions
02:09 CSMonster BYE
02:09 Hackbat Cprossu, what classes do you play?
02:09 aEx155 robots with suction cups to manipulate cards
02:09 Yaotzin something that could reset itself
02:09 Cprossu Pyro and engy
02:09 Cprossu mostly
02:10 Cprossu and on occasion other stuff
02:10 Hackbat I'm  Engie, Pyro, scout, Soldier, and Heavy
02:10 NeWtoz Medic!
02:10 Hackbat mainly pyro
02:10 Cprossu I have to clarify though
02:10 Hackbat <3 my lava axe
02:10 Cprossu axtinguishing degreasing air blasting pyro
02:10 aEx155 a card game over stream would be easy to implement
02:10 Yaotzin I don't think it'd be that easy
02:10 Yaotzin how would you reset the cards
02:10 Cprossu *axtinguisher is renamed 'askinguisher' "May I axe you a question?" for obvious reasons
02:11 CSMonster i still vote for hungry hungry hippos
02:11 cctoide I haven't played TF2 in years, stuff got weird
02:11 Yaotzin not to mention selecting the cards in your hand
02:11 Yaotzin I think a card game would be too complex
02:11 aEx155 what game do you propose?
02:11 cctoide pachinko?
02:11 Yaotzin Something that wouldn't require the user to actually manually move the arm
02:12 Yaotzin only select from preset options
02:12 Cprossu it could be like gorillas
02:12 Yaotzin and something easy to reset
02:12 Cprossu or worms
02:12 Cprossu angle, velocity
02:12 aEx155 skeeball!
02:12 Cprossu there could be an out of range too
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02:12 aEx155 just make a ball launcher
02:12 CSMonster lol
02:13 aEx155 or even, an aimable ramp with variable slope
02:13 speedrunnerG55 Hey geeks. Whats up
02:13 CSMonster oh god it's you
02:13 Cprossu god damn I am hungry and it's only 19:13:45 here
02:13 CSMonster i mean
02:13 CSMonster hi speedrunnerG55
02:13 speedrunnerG55 ...
02:13 aEx155 lol
02:13 CSMonster :D
02:14 DruidicRifleman oh goddess it is him....
02:14 DruidicRifleman :P
02:14 Yaotzin hmmm
02:14 Cprossu 10-4!!!! =D
02:14 Cprossu hahaha
02:14 CSMonster LOL
02:14 speedrunnerG55 ...oh gosh i have a reputatio
02:14 speedrunnerG55 N
02:14 cctoide Cprossu: what's traditional dinner time over there?
02:14 Cprossu now
02:14 CSMonster enthusiastic 10-4
02:14 Yaotzin I'm really stumped on a game that is really simple for 2-4 players. Simple meaning simple in motor movement
02:14 cctoide wait... where are you, again?
02:15 Cprossu AZ
02:15 Cprossu ,USA
02:15 CSMonster HHH.  last time i checked
02:15 aEx155 checkers?
02:15 aEx155 connect four
02:15 aEx155 ?
02:15 Yaotzin I thought about checkers and chess, but it would be clunky to command in IRC
02:15 Cprossu Yaotzin: worms
02:15 aEx155 connect four wouldn't be too hard
02:15 Yaotzin and would need some kind of graphical representation
02:15 Yaotzin hmm
02:15 cctoide I keep getting culturally confused with people on the stream going for dinner at 6pm :E
02:16 Cprossu angle, velocity, acceleration due to gravity
02:16 Yaotzin yeah I suppose connect four would be easier to command but impossible to reset
02:16 aEx155 I was thinking playing against a GG member over stream controlled by IRC
02:16 CSMonster with enough robotics nothing is impossible to reset
02:16 Cprossu actually
02:16 Cprossu just make each 'connect 4' piece swivel
02:16 Cprossu red on one side black on the other
02:16 Cprossu dead on side will be empty
02:17 aEx155 but there's no fun in that
02:17 Cprossu you could make rolling animations
02:17 Cprossu to simulate a falling piece
02:17 speedrunnerG55 So. Im starting networking in 2 weeks
02:17 aEx155 all you need is a color sorter and a way to transfer pieces to specific columns
02:17 CSMonster for entertainment value it should be an automated reset like a bowling pin robot
02:17 * eightbitbrad senses more feature requests for BotSteve coming
02:17 CSMonster LOL
02:18 Cprossu hrmmm
02:18 Yaotzin If you take the robots out of the equation, you would need pieces on a swivel and each piece would need its own motor wouldn't it?
02:18 CSMonster .connect 1,3
02:18 Cprossu ok how about connect 4 with red and black marbles?
02:18 Yaotzin and be on its own axis?
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02:18 Cprossu with the board being made outa wood
02:18 cctoide I was thinking a robot mouse in a maze, but that'd be hard to miniaturize
02:18 cctoide and harder to reset
02:18 Cprossu he's down there, duh!
02:19 aEx155 I could probably make something out of legos to play connect four
02:19 Yaotzin You'd need a lot of stepper motors
02:19 Yaotzin yo
02:19 aEx155 not really
02:19 Cprossu hey I got one
02:19 Cprossu PONG!
02:19 Yaotzin If you're going to want to spin each individual piece?
02:19 aEx155 ooh, that
02:19 aEx155 's a good idea
02:20 cctoide air hockey?
02:20 aEx155 but pong isn't turn based
02:20 CSMonster pong would be practically impossible with lag
02:20 Cprossu it can be
02:20 Yaotzin air hockey would fall victim to input lag
02:20 cctoide isn't that a bit lag sensitive?
02:20 Cprossu just make it into a grid
02:20 Cprossu it's lag sensitive anyway
02:20 Cprossu so you'll just have to compensate!
02:20 cctoide Jenga :p
02:20 Cprossu and make the puck slower
02:20 speedrunnerG55 Have you seen make magazing. Maxhanicle pong
02:20 aEx155 if you play connect four with actual pieces, it would probably only take a few servos
02:20 speedrunnerG55 Magazine
02:21 cctoide and make it so you can move the manipulator in very small increments
02:21 CSMonster connect four wouldn't be difficult.  as long as when done the grid can open at the bottom and the pieces can dump into a machine similar to a coin sorter and then be lifted back to the top
02:21 Yaotzin for a game to work, it needs to be easy to automatically reset, it needs to be turn based, and it needs to work around very simple inputs
02:21 aEx155 connect four would work
02:21 aEx155 you have a dispenser that takes number commands from IRC
02:21 cctoide claw crane?
02:21 Cprossu hey I got one other idea
02:22 Cprossu how about shoots and ladders?
02:22 aEx155 and a sorter that auto sorts at the end of a game
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02:22 Cprossu *or was it shutes and ladders
02:22 Cprossu whatever
02:22 Cprossu lol
02:22 aEx155 chutes
02:22 Cprossu hahaha
02:22 Cprossu I fail
02:22 Cprossu need dinner
02:22 Cprossu be right back
02:22 Yaotzin Ok so we're talking a connect 4 machine with something like the camera mount above the sets above it
02:23 aEx155 I wish I could send in a connect four machine
02:23 Yaotzin it slides back and fourth over the game piece dropping the coins
02:23 Yaotzin the coins being weighted differently for the sorting
02:23 aEx155 connect four pieces are red and black
02:23 Yaotzin how do you get the coins from the sorter on the ground up to the top to be played again?
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02:24 CSMonster nah, it could be done with a color sorter.  at most you're only sorting 16 pieces, it would go quickly
02:24 Yaotzin aEx155: I'm assuming sorting by weight would be simpler than having a camera to sort by color
02:24 Yaotzin oh?
02:24 CSMonster at least i think it would go quickly
02:24 CSMonster and a simple mechanical lift to pull the coins back to the top wouldn't be that complicated
02:24 aEx155 Yaotzin a color sorter doesn't need more than a simple photoreflecot: black doesn't reflect like red does
02:24 * CSMonster has experience with automated cartridge reloading machines
02:25 speedrunnerG55 I miss the old irc
02:25 aEx155 you can have sorted coins fall into a magazine that is lifted up to the dispenser
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02:26 aEx155 I mean, maglinvinn and paul are working with an arduino: an arduino in the same setup would work just as well
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02:26 Yaotzin If you get that to work with a normal sized connect four game, could you imagine blowing it up to wall sized behind glass with a interface in the cafe with the machine being connected online?
02:26 * CSMonster forgot that connect 4 isn't a 4x4 grid, but her point still stands
02:26 Yaotzin Could have someone in the cafe playing against someone on IRC
02:27 aEx155 that's exactly what I'm talking about
02:27 Yaotzin Or you could have two people on IRC playing
02:27 Obtuse_ how about this... an interactive connect four with one user in the cafe using a Kinnect.
02:27 Yaotzin and people in the cafe could see the game playing itself
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02:27 Obtuse_ i'm trying to find projects with my connect
02:27 Obtuse_ kinnect
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02:28 aEx155 a kinect wuold be a nice touch
02:28 aEx155 but difficult to implement
02:28 Seroster Goodnight folks
02:28 aEx155 night Seroster
02:28 CSMonster night swede
02:28 Obtuse_ yea, i'm looking forward to playing with the kinnect more
02:28 Obtuse_ it'll happen more in may
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02:29 Yaotzin I'd like to play around with a dev kit and see how easy it is for the kinnect to read on the x and y axis
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02:29 Obtuse_ well there is no dev kit
02:29 aEx155 one motor to empty rack, one to sort, one to lift, and one to dispense
02:29 CSMonster things found while searching for "connect 4 robot": http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_hXfpkfzkiS4/S7SqYrJI0xI/AAAAAAAAABY/aNYc6juApGM/s1600/LMI+milk.gif
02:29 Obtuse_ availble to you or i
02:29 Obtuse_ only the Open Kinnect Drivers
02:29 aEx155 4 motors isn't hard at all
02:30 Yaotzin how do you have the person actually infront of the machine interface with it?
02:30 cctoide I don't do consoles, but it's interesting seeing details about the next gen start to emerge
02:30 Yaotzin you wouldn't want to give them manual control of the slide arm
02:30 cctoide especially when it seems it was just yesterday the current ones came out
02:31 aEx155 the drop arm has a home position
02:31 Thermoelectric is now known as Thermo|Bleh
02:31 Yaotzin I don't know how many columns a connect 4 grid has, but assuming it's 8 or 16
02:31 aEx155 out of the way
02:31 Yaotzin or 24
02:31 Yaotzin just have a button for each column?
02:32 aEx155 a connect 4 grid is 5 rows 7 columns
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02:32 Yaotzin Ok so
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02:32 aEx155 the drop arm has a home position out of the way so the person could drop in their own pieces
02:32 Yaotzin 7 buttons one for each column, or a joystick that highlights each column with a row of LEDs
02:32 Yaotzin and once you make your selection then the arm moves
02:32 Yaotzin Oh I see
02:32 Yaotzin hmm
02:33 aEx155 that way you only need one dispenser of one color
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02:33 Yaotzin unless you want two online people to play it
02:33 aEx155 you could have one dispenser with alternating colors but that would be difficult to reset
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02:33 CSMonster my thought was a simple holder that slides side-to-side above the grid with a solenoid-operated drop gate on the bottom of it, and two hoppers above it to feed pieces into it also using solenoid gates.  1 stepper motor and 3 dumb solenoids
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02:34 Cprossu hahhahaah
02:34 aEx155 you don't even need a sterrer motor
02:34 Cprossu http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/ha/hasbro-handheld-electronic-connect-4.jpg
02:34 Cprossu ^easily resettable connect 4
02:34 CSMonster LOL
02:34 aEx155 a switch to detect rows is all you need
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02:34 CSMonster true
02:34 CSMonster i'm good at moving parts, not so good with electronics.
02:34 aEx155 Okay, here is my whole idea:
02:35 aEx155 a sorter on the bottom loads a magazine
02:35 aEx155 which is broght to the top and loaded in a dispenser
02:35 aEx155 the dispenser drops pieces until a reset moves it to the bottom to accept pieces after sorting
02:35 Cprossu you've just brought the entire game to a single failure point which can't even be breathed on.
02:36 CSMonster ?
02:36 Cprossu it'll be finacky as hell
02:36 aEx155 how?
02:36 Cprossu 1) dropped pieces 2) jammed pieces
02:36 Cprossu 3) jammed sorter
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02:36 aEx155 all of the pieces end up in the same plane, correct?
02:37 Cprossu getting up there is the challenge
02:37 Cprossu so here's what I think you should do instead
02:37 aEx155 moving the pieces up?
02:37 Cprossu at each column you have 2 options (red, black)
02:38 Cprossu how many pieces maximum can be used in 1 game?
02:38 Yaotzin 35
02:38 aEx155 well, technically, no more than 35 of any color
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02:39 Cprossu so in one game each column could potentially be all red or all black (12 pieces total)
02:39 aEx155 having 10 pieces for 7 columns doesn't make sense
02:39 aEx155 each column is 5 rows high
02:39 Cprossu http://www.guidetoliteraryagents.com/blog/content/binary/Connect4.JPG
02:39 Cprossu looks like 6 on that one
02:39 Yaotzin hmm
02:39 aEx155 hmm, I always remember it being 5
02:39 aEx155 even worse then
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02:40 Cprossu so how many pieces come with a connect four game?
02:40 aEx155 I don't know
02:41 aEx155 but I would guess, no more than 20 per color
02:41 Yaotzin well if it's 6x7
02:41 aEx155 or, 21
02:41 Yaotzin then I'd assume 21 or 22 of each color
02:41 Yaotzin one extra incase of losing one
02:41 aEx155 yes
02:42 Cprossu 21 of each
02:42 aEx155 there are ways of preventing sorter jams
02:42 Yaotzin but yeah you'd need 21 of each color to fill a 6x7 grid
02:42 aEx155 no matter what way you do it, using physical pieces is going to be finicky
02:42 DruidicRifleman OK this movie role models is pretty good
02:43 Cprossu yeah but if it jams more than it works and needs resetting every xyz minutes
02:43 Cprossu you are better off having a manual reset
02:43 aEx155 then just make sure you build it to not jam
02:43 Yaotzin What if you used the dispenser as part of the sorting? Like have it keep track of what piece is puts in what column and in what order
02:43 Yaotzin and when the game resets
02:43 Cprossu as in large hoppers of checkers
02:43 Yaotzin it only drops one column at a time
02:43 Cprossu at every column
02:43 Cprossu or actually
02:44 Cprossu how many games could be played in a time
02:44 Cprossu just make your movable column
02:44 Cprossu contain both red and black checkers
02:44 aEx155 if they can do it with 5 types of coins you can do it with two colors
02:44 Cprossu hrmmm
02:44 Cprossu how much do checker pieces cost
02:44 Yaotzin pittance I'm sure
02:45 aEx155 you would have to find compatible one
02:45 aEx155 s
02:45 aEx155 or make your own game stand
02:45 Cprossu hrmmm wait I have another idea
02:45 Cprossu this one is more complicated
02:45 Yaotzin making a game stand around the pieces should be an easy woodshop project
02:46 Cprossu nah it won't work either
02:46 aEx155 actually, you could probably get one lasercut out of acrylic
02:46 Cprossu then we should think about the recovery methods
02:46 Yaotzin well you'd want to go with really cheap materials to start
02:46 Yaotzin to get the bugs ironed out
02:46 Cprossu dumping them all out the bottom isn't a good idea
02:46 Cprossu but
02:46 Yaotzin maybe it turns out that it's easier if we use those massive 5 inch checkers pieces
02:46 Cprossu if you could control it and make a red/black/red/black stack
02:46 Cprossu based upon the pattern it was put in
02:47 Cprossu yeah I think I like this
02:47 aEx155 then you'd need 7 dispensers
02:47 Cprossu one movable column, alternating colors
02:47 DruidicRifleman wow allot happens when i stop for 5 seconds
02:47 Yaotzin aEx155: wouldn't you just need one sliding bottom with a collapsable door?
02:48 Yaotzin the size of a column
02:48 Yaotzin then again opening and closing it before another piece gets through
02:48 Yaotzin that wouldn't work
02:48 Cprossu no it wouldn't
02:48 Yaotzin unless you had a stopper
02:48 Cprossu unless
02:48 CSMonster DruidicRifleman: we're having an argument on whether or not you could build a roboticized connect-four game with regular moving pieces that won't jam.
02:48 aEx155 here's my idea:
02:48 Yaotzin some kind of door that goes over the bottom pieces
02:48 Yaotzin in the bottom row
02:48 Yaotzin to keep the rest from falling
02:48 aEx155 keep all of the pieces parallel by sandwiching them between two boards
02:49 Cprossu wait I got another idea.
02:49 Cprossu don't rely on gravity
02:49 Cprossu connect 4, sideways
02:49 Cprossu camera can be sideways too
02:49 aEx155 how would you reset it?
02:49 aEx155 wait
02:49 Cprossu sliding through it entirely
02:49 aEx155 it could be checkers style
02:50 DruidicRifleman CSMonster i see...
02:50 Cprossu pneumatics would be an interesting reset method
02:51 aEx155 I'm really tempted to model out my ideas and post a picture but I'm too lazy
02:51 Cprossu the point of a sideways one is you could keep all the columns seperate
02:51 Cprossu and make a feedback loop of some sort
02:52 Cprossu without worrying about gravity or the dump solenoid or your pieces getting stuck the wrong way
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02:53 aEx155 how would you dispense pieces to the board?
02:53 Cprossu solenoid followed by a plastic pusher
02:53 Cprossu the plastic pusher would be mounted on the movable column
02:54 Cprossu and would be software controlled to the correct depth
02:54 Cprossu this way you could have an open end
02:54 Cprossu and also be in control of red/black/red/black
02:54 Cprossu resetting would look wild
02:54 Cprossu and be completely dependant on how the game turned out
02:55 Cprossu but it would all be about maintaining a red-black-red-black stack
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02:55 aEx155 but then you are limited by the speed of the sorting and the dispensing
02:55 aEx155 the game would take much longer that way
02:55 Cprossu yes but it'll be a show in of it's own
02:56 Cprossu the game already will take long
02:56 Cprossu irc commands
02:56 Cprossu but it'll do something 'intelligent' as resetting
02:56 Cprossu a few loops and "how did it know?!"
02:57 Thermoelectric Lets say this did happen, what would it be broadcast over? The 15 sec lag on uStream would make it unbearable
02:57 aEx155 a coin sorter wouldn't be hard to implement and make jam proof because you have the ability to keep all the pieces in one place after a game
02:57 Cprossu it's more like a 5 second lag
02:57 aEx155 and in a turn based game it wouldn't be that bad
02:58 Thermoelectric True...
02:58 Yaotzin Yeah pretty much because it's turn based it'll be fine
02:58 Yaotzin and
02:58 Yaotzin Like I've said I've played plenty of graphical represented games on IRC
02:58 Yaotzin using ascii
02:58 Yaotzin an ascii grid could be made
02:58 cctoide http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Edo_Panorama_old_Tokyo_color_photochrom.jpg
02:58 cctoide Taken in 1865
02:59 cctoide (colored, though)
02:59 Cprossu the other idea I had
02:59 Cprossu was if you put a device in each column
03:00 Cprossu that could feed the checkers back up to the feeder
03:00 Cprossu but I Think there's fail in that idea
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03:00 aEx155 Okay, I've got it
03:01 aEx155 on the top, you have a slanted ramp that pieces roll on, and fall into colums depending on which column is open
03:01 aEx155 to feed that, you have an elevator of sorts
03:01 aEx155 the sorter feeds the elevator
03:02 Yaotzin http://www.mirc.net/projects.php?go=1138067354
03:02 Cprossu so do you have 2 elevators?
03:02 aEx155 no
03:02 Yaotzin this is the IRC uno
03:02 Yaotzin rather enjoyable
03:02 aEx155 on color gets to the elevator, the other is returned to the player
03:02 Cprossu so the physical player is dropping his checkers in directly?
03:02 speedrunnerG55 Whats up
03:03 aEx155 yes
03:03 aEx155 you don't need to operate both sides of the game
03:03 Cprossu ok so this relies on 1 physical and one virtual
03:03 aEx155 yes
03:03 Cprossu and can't be used for 2 virtual
03:03 Yaotzin I don't think that's a good idea
03:03 aEx155 if you're playing against a cafe member over the internet, that is how it is
03:03 Cprossu (which would look pretty funny)
03:04 aEx155 you could just have two elevators then
03:04 aEx155 two elevators on either side
03:04 Cprossu ok so continue (this is interesting)
03:04 speedrunnerG55 Irc interaction with boars games?
03:04 Cprossu and depending on the 'game mode'
03:04 aEx155 a ramp on the top has 7 contollable openings, that a piece can either fall into or roll over
03:04 speedrunnerG55 Board
03:05 Cprossu and the failsafe (if no slots open) will go back to the sorter?
03:05 aEx155 it tils one way for the red side to roll down, and the opposite tilt for the black side
03:05 Cprossu or a misfire for that matter
03:05 aEx155 I'm not sure how you would do that on my system
03:05 Cprossu just make one more slot at the end
03:06 Cprossu that's always open
03:06 aEx155 if you dispense one piece, it can't roll over a hole, so it falls in
03:06 Cprossu that then feeds the hopper
03:06 Cprossu put a light sensor there so the computer knows it was a misfire
03:06 aEx155 yeah
03:06 aEx155 but the slope would be shallow enough to prevent misfires
03:06 Cprossu not all of them ^_^
03:07 aEx155 well, you can build in failsafes or you can engineer out misfires
03:07 aEx155 take your pick
03:07 Cprossu (these terrible lessons come to me by ways of pepsi automation, don't ask)
03:07 speedrunnerG55 Firing cards. To play them?
03:07 Cprossu if if can break it will
03:07 speedrunnerG55 Cool
03:07 Cprossu if it can't fail it will
03:07 aEx155 I suppose
03:08 aEx155 my idea of an elevator is just a belt pressing a piece against a rubber wall
03:08 aEx155 so that the piece rolls up a shaft
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03:08 DavidJKuhr yay
03:08 Cprossu so build in a method of failing that makes the occasional fail pointless because it was thought for and make sure the 'fix' is a passive one that doesn't have an effect on the other systems
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03:08 aEx155 and all of this is pretty flat, constraining the pieces to one plane
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03:09 Cprossu man that would be funny
03:09 aEx155 what?
03:09 Cprossu (thought of a stupid idea that he won't relpeat)
03:09 Yaotzin like pushing the pieces up against a sleeve, they come up and corkscrew so instead of being horizontal they're now vertical and ready for dropping?
03:09 Cprossu but I was thinking of a connect 4 board rigged with microswitches
03:09 * eightbitbrad falls back in, taking a break from Python hacking
03:09 aEx155 the pieces never leave the vertical orientation
03:10 aEx155 essentially, the entire game is built between two pieces of acrylic
03:10 aEx155 with just enought space between them to fit the pieces
03:10 aEx155 keeping them vertical makes them easier to manipulate
03:11 speedrunnerG55 Huh
03:11 Cprossu hey I got a better idea for your sorter
03:11 LeadHead So when are the latest videos going to be uplaoded
03:11 Yaotzin seeing the pieces travel up either side would be interesting
03:11 Cprossu ready for it?
03:11 aEx155 yes
03:11 Cprossu magnetic red pieces!
03:11 aEx155 I had thought about that
03:11 aEx155 pieces of metal/washers on pieces
03:11 aEx155 it would make it even easier
03:11 Yaotzin yeah that was my first inclination
03:11 Cprossu just glue washers to it
03:12 Cprossu what the hell is that shit?
03:12 Yaotzin infact that's the very first thing I said instead of using photo sorting
03:12 Cprossu tggconsole: are you guys ok?
03:12 DavidJKuhr hello master control
03:12 Sgt_Lemming major tom to master control
03:12 Cprossu WIPE!
03:13 Cprossu it's been through more hell at whatever tv station it was at than you could possibly put it through?
03:13 Cprossu !
03:13 eightbitbrad yay GVG
03:13 Cprossu yeah I helped
03:13 Cprossu we went through all the signals actually
03:13 Cprossu that it needed
03:13 Cprossu debugged them
03:14 aEx155 I can't believe I spent this entire time about playing connect 4
03:15 Cprossu then I literally told them when everything looked right on the scope
03:15 Cprossu "[18:33] <Cprossu> sweet
03:15 Cprossu [18:33] <Cprossu> ok feed that shit into the gvg!"
03:15 Yaotzin lol aEx155
03:15 Cprossu and it worked
03:15 Cprossu all happy
03:15 Yaotzin Next time it'll be xfire
03:15 LeadHead YO DUDES, WHATS UP?
03:15 Yaotzin or marbles
03:15 Cprossu we were getting some weird ass shit out of the sync gen though
03:15 Yaotzin or rather, cross fire
03:15 Cprossu before we got the right signals
03:16 Cprossu but yeah captain was here
03:16 LeadHead gb2kitchen
03:16 Cprossu during that event
03:16 Cprossu bye
03:16 aEx155 hello Red
03:16 LeadHead bye
03:16 aEx155 bye
03:16 LeadHead Does the hot-clock wrap around back to 0000?
03:17 * wannabe1987 has subway now :D
03:17 aEx155 watch it and find out
03:17 wannabe1987 and yes it does
03:17 Yaotzin subway sounds good
03:17 exor674 wannabe1987: mmmm! What kind of sammich?
03:17 Cprossu also it's off
03:17 wannabe1987 BLT toasted :D
03:17 aEx155 dinnertime for me guys and girls
03:17 Yaotzin I have one like a 1 minute walk away
03:17 Cprossu by 20 seconds every 10 hours
03:17 Yaotzin om nom
03:17 Photon939 LeadHead: I think the panaplex display is a bit tired
03:17 aEx155 this was fun
03:17 Cprossu or something
03:17 aEx155 bye everyone
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03:18 exor674 wannabe1987: mmm, I might have to go out and get subway tomorrow
03:18 Yaotzin only 19 viewers on the stream? What happened to having 45 at like 3 in the morning
03:18 CaptainBoden Cory you there?
03:18 Yaotzin anyway is batsteve still there?
03:19 CaptainBoden tggcory
03:19 LeadHead Guessing 45 people don't enjoy looking at a hotclock
03:19 LeadHead and nothing more
03:19 CaptainBoden Pan the camera around to the people.
03:19 CaptainBoden They didn't just do that......
03:20 wannabe1987 exor674 - its what i always get...
03:20 Yaotzin heh
03:20 LeadHead CaptainBoden you really ought to just ring up his phone and give him a scolding
03:20 Cprossu setting things on fire would be bad, stuff just got working
03:20 exor674 wannabe1987: it sounds tasty! my usual is spicy italian
03:21 tggcory Yeah?
03:21 CaptainBoden CALL ME NOW
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03:22 DruidicRifleman All the Smiths in the house say WHAT!!!
03:22 Yaotzin What?
03:22 wannabe1987 huh?
03:23 DavidJKuhr i think master control will have to have a security level
03:23 DruidicRifleman Definantly
03:23 maglinvinn so what did i miss
03:23 LeadHead Cory is getting a scolding
03:24 LeadHead they got the GVG working somewhat
03:24 DruidicRifleman your greating
03:24 maglinvinn whad cory do
03:24 wannabe1987 leadhead - along with your nick there, i read "cory is getting head"
03:24 exor674 wannabe1987: that would so make for intresting stream! might piss off the ustream people a bit
03:24 wannabe1987 what is a "GVG switcher"??
03:24 DruidicRifleman lol
03:25 wannabe1987 exor675 - probably...
03:25 LeadHead Dunno, looks like cory touched somethign he wasn't supposed to
03:25 LeadHead or something
03:25 LeadHead who knows
03:25 Cprossu Grass Valley Group
03:25 DruidicRifleman Don't they have a no porn rule?
03:25 maglinvinn lol
03:25 Cprossu makes tv switchers and other video equipment
03:25 exor674 wannabe1987: that box on the left side of the stream with all the lights
03:25 Cprossu and the handles
03:25 exor674 wannabe1987: and levers
03:25 wannabe1987 i'm not watching!!!!
03:25 Cprossu then watch and you'll know
03:25 CaptainBoden Guys, could you zoom out please
03:26 CaptainBoden totally need remote control of the camera
03:26 DavidJKuhr at this time of night porn doesn't bother me since I'm not at work lol
03:26 CaptainBoden and a tazer
03:26 Coderjoe rutroh
03:26 Yaotzin lol
03:26 CaptainBoden maybe just a bb gun, much cleaner
03:26 Cprossu aghhhhkkk
03:26 LeadHead You just ought to tie a cellphone into a dogshock collar
03:26 LeadHead and make him wear it all the time
03:26 CaptainBoden he's so graceful
03:26 DavidJKuhr yeah that would be good to have PTZ control
03:26 cctoide heh, "recommended streams" popped up some paranormal BS with a bunch of cameras
03:26 Cprossu how about a hopped up airsoft?
03:27 LeadHead I can feel his spine crying in pain right now
03:27 LeadHead at that posture
03:27 Yaotzin paintball gun?
03:27 CaptainBoden How you make it across the lab without getting stitches amazes me.
03:27 Cprossu lots of round/minute
03:27 * wannabe1987 is watching space balls ep1 :D
03:27 CaptainBoden Cory has excellent posture, he is the embodyment of zen
03:27 Cprossu gelatin based paint would mess up the electronics
03:27 CaptainBoden Paintball is to messy, I want a bb gun.
03:27 LeadHead Tellin ya, hook a cell phone ringer upto the trigger circuit on a dog shock collar
03:27 CaptainBoden Very tidy
03:27 Cprossu why not airsoft?
03:27 Yaotzin But the paintballs leave a bigger bruise
03:27 Cprossu then you could have lots more rounds
03:27 CaptainBoden That could work.
03:27 LeadHead then put the phone number on a certain select website with a picture of a cute girl
03:28 DruidicRifleman Like a soft air BB gun?
03:28 LeadHead saying "Call me for a good time"
03:28 CaptainBoden You've obviously never been shot with a bb gun.
03:28 Cprossu you could even hide the guns in the racks at various places
03:28 cctoide how expensive is laser tag equipment?
03:28 Coderjoe when pop bottles explode, next on fox
03:28 LeadHead Real laser tag
03:28 LeadHead or fake home stuff
03:28 Yaotzin The only BB gun i've owned was one of those pump rifles
03:28 CaptainBoden I don't know they still SELL it
03:28 Yaotzin and I tell you I wasn't about to shoot anyone with it
03:28 Yaotzin myself included
03:28 cctoide Real, I guess
03:28 LeadHead Probably a lot
03:28 CaptainBoden Proper bb guns will piece skin easily.
03:29 Cprossu yeah and they stick
03:29 Cprossu and it bloody hurts too
03:29 Cprossu esp if the pneumatics are any good on the gun
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03:29 Yaotzin I would imagine they would, I always had the metal balls and the metal slugs for bb rifles
03:29 LeadHead My back is starting to hurt just watching cory slumped like that
03:29 Yaotzin I've taken out windows with it
03:29 Cprossu considering what you can do to filled pop cans
03:29 Cprossu how's the render time?
03:30 LeadHead Pellet rifles are evil things
03:30 tggcory .minecraft
03:30 tggcory blah!
03:30 cctoide BotSteve's AWOL
03:30 eightbitbrad tggcory: BotSteve's gone for some reason
03:30 cctoide well, MIA is more like it
03:30 Cj1corbystarlet I think NLE needs a cone of silence
03:30 CaptainBoden We have them
03:31 Yaotzin Yeah I was going to show batsteve http://www.mirc.net/projects.php?go=1138067354 this
03:31 eightbitbrad I'm working on fixing the youtube search.  I can bring EightBitBot in here temporarily it need be.
03:31 CaptainBoden Cory, grab one of the diffusors ;)
03:31 LeadHead Cory's station should be relabled the corner of shame and all things wrong with society
03:31 DruidicRifleman http://www.xcalibertactical.com/products/m134a2/index.html Can we Stick this on an Uatomated turret?
03:31 cctoide well, it IS a Mac
03:31 CaptainBoden Cory is one of the hardest working crew members we have and is deserving of a serious bit of respect.
03:32 eightbitbrad cctoide: And what is wrong with Macs?
03:32 LeadHead No doubt Captain
03:32 LeadHead but come on
03:32 LeadHead you've got to rib him
03:32 LeadHead @Druidic, 600 FPS?
03:32 CaptainBoden oh chug my cock.
03:32 LeadHead I wouldn't want to be on the recieving end of that
03:32 Yaotzin oh lordy
03:32 Cprossu seriously he's been busting his butt the passed...forever
03:33 Cprossu someone outa send a pizza or something at least
03:33 Yaotzin send 50 pizzas
03:33 exor674 nono, tacos
03:33 CaptainBoden yeah, he woke up this morning to me yelling at him at 9am, he got up and hauled ass to the lab, and it's coming on midnight and he's STILL there working.
03:33 Yaotzin make them all taco flavored
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03:33 wannabe1987 for cory?  i made dinner, i can bring him some...
03:33 Cprossu he has?
03:33 eightbitbrad and there was much rejoicing?
03:33 maglinvinn yay kyle!
03:33 CaptainBoden Cory is one of the few staff members who has to suffer LIVING with me.
03:33 Yaotzin lol he has to reg a nick first
03:33 Cprossu wrong link me thinks
03:33 Yaotzin the channel is +r
03:34 LeadHead How bad can living with you be?
03:34 maglinvinn i'd live in the same house as you captain
03:34 tggcory Can you undo it for a sec? xD
03:34 Cprossu ahhh +r woop
03:34 Coderjoe the channel is not +r atm
03:34 maglinvinn hell, i'd even cook
03:34 CaptainBoden 2nd circle of hell.
03:34 Yaotzin it isn't?
03:34 Coderjoe +FcntzC
03:34 Cprossu oddly enough it's not?
03:34 LeadHead On the other hand, how is living with Cory?
03:34 Yaotzin It was earlier
03:34 CaptainBoden We need to make the channel open to NON REGISTERED USERS.
03:34 CaptainBoden This is a requirement, because of the live page on the Group site.
03:34 Cprossu it should be...oddly enough
03:34 maglinvinn need a different IRC then,   thats a freenet thing
03:34 Yaotzin It's been keeping me from getting in without being regged
03:34 Yaotzin for the last two days
03:34 LeadHead It's not a freenet thing
03:35 Yaotzin really?
03:35 Cj1corbystarlet im not registered with anyone ?
03:35 Cprossu that's not a freenode thing
03:35 maglinvinn yeah, its been kicking me out too
03:35 tggcory Sorry, hold up
03:35 CaptainBoden Someone please fix that.
03:35 LeadHead bitcoin-otc is on freenet, and I could access it without being registered
03:35 Cprossu my other nick isn't registered I think he just has a wrong linke
03:35 arruid i am not registered either
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03:35 Yaotzin whoever has ops set mode -r
03:35 maglinvinn hey, there's kyle.
03:35 Yaotzin if it's on
03:35 tggKyle Okay, there we go
03:35 Yaotzin hmm
03:35 tggKyle Sup IRC.
03:35 tggcory He hit * instead of #
03:35 Coderjoe Yaotzin: the channel is not +r
03:35 CaptainBoden ok gentlemen, gnite. Cory, please see that the xest one uploads ASAP and fix the title of the Japan #1 video to match the second one (which is worlds better).
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03:36 tggcory The second one is going live?
03:36 exor674 is the 2nd japan one supposed to be up now?
03:36 maglinvinn there's a new vid?
03:36 LeadHead Chugging from a two liter bottle of soda
03:36 Cprossu_Laptop I just verified everything seems ok
03:36 LeadHead while sitting down in front of a computer on IRC
03:36 tggKyle Dude, I'm classy.
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03:36 LeadHead If that isn't a stereotypical IRC'er
03:36 LeadHead I do not know what is
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03:37 cctoide no cheetos yet
03:37 Crotch hey
03:37 Cprossu LeadHead: he is not lacking certain articles of clothing either
03:37 tggKyle Yeah no Cheetos, but I do have a hideous neckbeard
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03:37 Yaotzin whoops
03:37 LeadHead Once he starts building a collection of cans up, like the computer guys in the basement were
03:37 LeadHead he'll be right
03:37 Yaotzin tried to /hop and i killed my client
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03:37 tggKyle Neckbear
03:37 Cprossu I need to clean my model M, it's a freaking mess =(
03:38 LeadHead Model M representin!
03:38 Yaotzin neckbears? Get in the van
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03:38 Cprossu mine is a terminal/pc keyboard with 24 f keys
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03:38 LeadHead Mine are just normal 1394101s
03:38 CrotchShot how did zomb go
03:38 LeadHead IBM built Ms
03:38 Cprossu http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=3846&amp;stc=1&amp;d=1250543744
03:38 LeadHead I have about 20-25 of them
03:38 Cprossu ^this is mine
03:38 LeadHead Need to get to selling the rest
03:38 tggKyle Zomb was...eh
03:38 Cprossu I've got several other model M's sealed away though
03:39 maglinvinn dan eakin
03:39 tggKyle OH.
03:39 CrotchShot I see
03:39 Cprossu (I found a use for my foodsaver!)
03:39 maglinvinn <- brown long coat, big hammer, crowbar
03:39 tggKyle I know who you are now
03:39 CrotchShot I couldn't make it
03:39 maglinvinn haha
03:39 maglinvinn good job.
03:39 LeadHead I found all the Ms at school.
03:39 LeadHead Going to sell the rest on e-bay and split the profits 50/50 with the school
03:39 Cprossu only difference is my model M has a grey ibm logo (not the blue one)
03:39 Yaotzin I can't even leave batsteve a message since botsteve is gone
03:39 LeadHead Blue are Lexmark built
03:39 LeadHead usually
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03:39 w0vha Does anyone have a better suggestion for an IRC client?  The web client and JAWS are not getting along nicely.
03:39 Cprossu most of mine are grey or metal logos
03:39 maglinvinn time for some archer.  muting live feed.  back later
03:40 LeadHead Pidgin can do IRC
03:40 CrotchShot Babysitting sucks >_<
03:40 Coderjoe w0vha: os?
03:40 Yaotzin mIRC or Colloquy
03:40 LeadHead Silver logo is real old
03:40 w0vha Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit
03:40 Coderjoe w0vha: xchat's pretty good. if you have win, ise xchat-wdk
03:40 LeadHead Just use Pidgin, its free and works great for IRC
03:40 Yaotzin D&D works pretty well on IRC
03:40 Yaotzin just sayin
03:40 Cprossu http://www.geocities.jp/kenjin_keyboard/1390131p01.jpg
03:40 Cprossu ^this one is one of my favorites
03:40 LeadHead I've got one of the original model Ms for the IBM XT-PC
03:41 CrotchShot Zomb should get set up on ustream
03:41 LeadHead but I have no way to test it
03:41 Coderjoe er, use
03:41 tggKyle Get out your e-d20s
03:41 Cprossu and one I used before snagging the terminal keyboard
03:41 Cprossu I've got 2 XT's and one AT model M
03:41 LeadHead I like the feel of the XT M better than the PS/2 M actually
03:41 biotek i put on my wizard hat
03:41 LeadHead but like I said, can't use it since PS/2 ports don't worth with XT
03:41 Cprossu I like the ESC key placement
03:41 Coderjoe no robe?
03:41 tggKyle Rollin for stats
03:41 tggKyle With my wizard hat
03:42 Cprossu and it's the same on my terminal model m
03:42 Cprossu where esc is top left numpad
03:42 Cprossu http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/AT_keyboard.jpg/800px-AT_keyboard.jpg
03:42 DavidJKuhr if the group needs access to a mumble server until you get one setup at the lab you can use the Northern Wisconsin Gamers one at 97.83.206.99
03:42 Yaotzin Nobody rolls for stats anymore, it's all about the array or point buy system
03:42 LeadHead Wish they made XT - AT converters
03:42 Cprossu ^this one is the model M AT
03:42 LeadHead yup
03:42 LeadHead thats the one I have
03:42 Cprossu I think you'll like it's layout
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03:42 Cprossu look carefully
03:42 LeadHead oh wait
03:42 LeadHead AT you said
03:42 Cprossu yes
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03:42 Cprossu it's built like the XT keyboard
03:42 LeadHead Mine could be AT
03:43 Cprossu only it's AT and has the caps/num/scroll led's
03:43 TheSessionMan Hello.
03:43 LeadHead lemme check
03:43 Cprossu http://www.vintage-computer.com/images/83key.jpg
03:43 Cprossu ^see the differences?
03:43 biotek http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/3/31/71e6c9e9-9648-4724-8ec9-1adcb0c71cd6.jpg
03:43 DavidJKuhr if you do use it just use the temporary room that is setup for The Geek Group
03:44 Cprossu I also have a few of these
03:44 Cprossu http://www.9999hp.net/keyboard/old/724.jpg
03:44 Cprossu WANG keyboards, alps mechanical keyswitches
03:44 Cprossu nice keyboard and has a speaker for clicking too
03:44 Cprossu amd those are AT..ish as well
03:44 LeadHead its an XT
03:45 LeadHead I don't particullarly like the feel of the keyswitch boards
03:45 Cprossu find yourself an original AT keyboard and you'll like it though
03:45 LeadHead but I find people on ebay seem to think they're very valueable
03:45 Cprossu I like both bucking spring and mechanical keyswitch
03:45 Cprossu I kill rubber membrane keyboards
03:45 LeadHead I sold an NCR keyboard with Cherry keyswitches
03:45 LeadHead for like $120
03:45 Cprossu I had a very abused NCR keyboard at one point
03:46 Cprossu I also have several Apple Extended (not extended II) keyboards
03:46 LeadHead Yup
03:46 Cprossu and of my 'apple' keyboards
03:46 Cprossu the IIgs keyboard is my favorite
03:46 LeadHead I have an apple keyboard too
03:46 LeadHead I have a II Gs with a diskdrive
03:46 LeadHead but no bootdisk
03:46 Cprossu http://www.old-computers.com/museum/photos/Apple_IIgs_Keyboard_1.jpg
03:47 Cprossu I've got 2 functioning IIgs's
03:47 tggKyle Okay kids
03:47 Cprossu one with a hard drive and all the goodies
03:47 tggKyle Ask me anything.
03:47 tggKyle ANNNNNYTHING
03:47 LeadHead I've got an 80MB Apple external SCSI drive
03:47 Cprossu in fact I even recorded an old demo for boden a long time ago
03:47 LeadHead no idea whats on it
03:47 Cprossu lol mine is 20mb
03:47 Cprossu ok tggKyle, what's your favorite keyboard?
03:47 tggKyle The one on my Melodica.
03:48 TheSessionMan tggKyle, what is your favorite radio station?
03:48 LeadHead SO FUNNY LOL>
03:48 tggKyle Coast to Coast AM
03:48 Cprossu I guess I can't argue with that
03:48 TheSessionMan wrong!
03:48 Coderjoe that's a show
03:48 tggKyle Hands down, SPOOOOOKY GHOSTY STORIES
03:49 LeadHead Whos your favorite non linear video editor?
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03:49 tggKyle Corby <3
03:49 Cprossu *software
03:49 cctoide has the scanner not driven you batty yet?
03:49 LeadHead His name is Corey
03:49 tggKyle BECAUSE HE'S SO KAWAII UGU~
03:49 TheSessionMan what is your favorite Tarantino film?
03:50 LeadHead If you don't say Pulp Fiction
03:50 tggKyle Jackie Brown!
03:50 TheSessionMan I like reservoir dogs personally
03:50 Cprossu oh come on reservoir dogs was damn good
03:50 Cprossu yeah
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03:50 TheSessionMan pulp fiction is a close second though
03:50 eightbitbrad Someone toss a brick at my head... hard please.
03:51 * exor674 bricks eightbitbrad
03:51 * LeadHead tosses large brich at eightbitbrad
03:51 LeadHead brich
03:51 Coderjoe anata wa genki desu ka?
03:51 LeadHead interesting
03:51 Cprossu a brich?!
03:51 LeadHead pants. Didn't mean to do that
03:51 eightbitbrad thanks.  I'm gonna have to rewrite the youtube search module for BotSteve
03:51 TheSessionMan TggKyle: what's the first rule of fight club?
03:52 Cprossu And now, No. 1..... The Larch.
03:52 LeadHead Do you know who "The Dude" is?
03:52 LeadHead There is only one dude
03:52 LeadHead man.
03:52 eightbitbrad His Dudeness
03:52 Cprossu CRT's or LCD's, state your reasoning.
03:53 eightbitbrad I liked that rug, it really tied the room together
03:53 eightbitbrad LCD!
03:53 LeadHead Rocking a pair of Sony Trinitrons here
03:53 eightbitbrad Bigger, crisper and less heavy.
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03:53 eightbitbrad <3 my 24" LCD
03:53 Cprossu I'm rocking a pair of 22" mitsu CRT's
03:53 LeadHead Adjusted the focus of my trinitron
03:53 LeadHead and its just as sharp as any LCD i've seen
03:53 Cprossu I can't stand cleartype
03:54 Cprossu that's my reasoning
03:54 LeadHead Vista/Win7 default to cleartype
03:54 LeadHead even on CRTs
03:54 Cprossu I run XP x64
03:54 exor674 Cprossu: and its probably a good way to piss off burglars
03:54 LeadHead My mom warned me about drinking soda next to the computer
03:54 Cprossu if anyone tries to steal 1/2 my equipment I'll find them dead
03:54 Cprossu from a hernia
03:54 Cprossu guaranteed
03:55 LeadHead Yurp.
03:55 LeadHead I've got a little generator
03:55 LeadHead 3500 Watts, a small guy
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03:55 DruidicRifleman mikemol what is your spred sheet about
03:55 Coderjoe boxers, briefs, panties?
03:55 Cprossu I have 8 CRT's on my desk alone
03:55 LeadHead Except its from 1963, and weighs 250 pounds
03:55 eightbitbrad back in a bit... switching machines... this chair is killing me.
03:55 eightbitbrad left #thegeekgroup
03:55 Coderjoe haha
03:55 Cprossu business in the front, party in the back?!
03:55 LeadHead That's a mullet
03:55 Cprossu just making sure
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03:56 LeadHead You'll find that 80% of the time if they have a mullet
03:56 LeadHead They also have a Camaro
03:56 Cprossu So are you guys going to play portal 2 once it goes live?
03:57 LeadHead Negative
03:57 LeadHead Can't justify the cost
03:57 Cprossu same here
03:57 tggKyle NO, I JUST PLAY CALL OF DOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDYYYYYYYYYY
03:57 Cj1corbystarlet boxers in the kennel, briefs on the floor and panties on his head, i believe corey likes
03:57 Cprossu and the ARG pushed the release up by 5 minutes or something
03:57 LeadHead For the same price two years ago, you got HL2: EP2, TF2 and Portal
03:57 LeadHead I belive you also got HL2 EP1 and HL2
03:57 tggKyle THAT'S ONE WHOLE DAY
03:57 Cprossu it should RL tommorow we hope
03:57 Cprossu but it won't
03:58 Cprossu because it's all a lie
03:58 Cprossu I still didn't want to spend that much cash on games i'd never play again
03:58 Cprossu portal 2 ok, potato sack, nah
03:58 LeadHead Cory, didn't you say earlier you were going to tell your coming out story?
03:59 Cj1corbystarlet broke back mountain style??
04:00 Cprossu be right back
04:00 tggcory Lightening round questions
04:00 tggcory I CAN'T WORD
04:00 LeadHead If car is to truck then triangle is to
04:01 Coderjoe airspeed velocity of a creepy "peter cottontail" singing bunny?
04:02 LeadHead 9.8 ms/^2
04:02 LeadHead m/s^2
04:02 Sgt_Lemming sigh, so much for sunday arvo ride
04:02 Sgt_Lemming it's pissing down here atm
04:02 LeadHead What kind of car do you drive?
04:02 Sgt_Lemming ride, not drive.
04:02 Cj1corbystarlet Cory , i you got a hircut would the top match the bottom ?
04:02 LeadHead 3.8?
04:02 LeadHead Gay.
04:02 Cprossu buick regal? 3.8 SC?
04:03 Cprossu supercharged
04:03 LeadHead Is it superccharged
04:03 LeadHead Kyle, what kind of car do you drive?
04:03 LeadHead What is it bro
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04:03 Cprossu I drive a freaking '05 dodge neon...
04:03 LeadHead Sable, also known as a ford taurus
04:03 Cprossu however I do have a 1989 turbocharged caravan
04:03 arruid 8 mazda on me end. it doesn't like hills either
04:04 arruid *86
04:04 LeadHead Brakes are nice
04:04 LeadHead What year is your car cory
04:04 Cprossu LeadHead: did your front end break yet?
04:04 LeadHead front end on what?
04:04 Cprossu *whoever head the sable
04:04 LeadHead oh
04:04 LeadHead that was yellow shirt
04:04 Cprossu lol
04:05 Cprossu did your front end break?
04:05 Cprossu in the sable
04:05 Cprossu they do that
04:05 Cprossu and it's annoying
04:05 LeadHead Do chickens have large talons?
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04:05 Cprossu don't overload it, is all I can say
04:05 Cj1corbystarlet Serious question, How far off is the next video upload?
04:06 Cj1corbystarlet ta
04:06 Cprossu ok, more questions, we are running out of material
04:06 LeadHead Have you ever considered directing a musical, featuring Kidwell and Boden?
04:06 Cj1corbystarlet haha  nooooooooooooo
04:06 Cprossu Wallets: Rubber electrical tape, duck tape, leather, vinyl?
04:07 LeadHead Leather, all day.
04:07 Cj1corbystarlet Ben in Australia
04:07 LeadHead Youdaman
04:07 Cprossu mine is 1/2 electrical rubber splicing tape 1/2 duck tape
04:07 Cprossu they're damn good
04:07 Cprossu it's not made up
04:08 Cprossu no.
04:08 LeadHead That Pepsi is looking lonely, I believe it needs a swig.
04:08 Cprossu not outside of a mall
04:08 biotek coke or pepsi?
04:08 Cprossu We have charlies steakery's though
04:08 Cj1corbystarlet now Burp
04:08 Cprossu I like the throwback pepsi and mtn dew
04:09 Cj1corbystarlet mtn dew is cats piss with sugar
04:09 Cprossu as it should be
04:09 LeadHead Next you're going to tell me you like four lokos
04:09 biotek dr.pepper, amen
04:09 Cprossu What's your favorite old videogame?
04:09 Cprossu (must be prior to 1990)
04:10 LeadHead Dreamcast bro
04:10 LinuxH4x0r TGG should make the same thing FMCG has
04:10 LinuxH4x0r text to speech on their irc
04:10 LinuxH4x0r http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d05zSAXregQ
04:10 Cprossu lol serves you right for asking for a timeframe
04:10 Photon939 i should burn a copy of crazy taxi for my dreamcast
04:10 LeadHead +1 Internet
04:11 Cprossu that's messed up
04:11 Cprossu I helped someone convert a crazy taxi
04:11 Cprossu to a initial D machine
04:11 Cprossu Isn't that messed up?
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04:12 Cprossu no we can't
04:12 Cprossu we can't hear you at al
04:12 Cprossu l
04:16 Cprossu well at least we get a windchime test pattern
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04:16 LeadHead anyone else hear music
04:17 arruid no, just the scanner
04:17 Photon939 so with all the HVAC equipment that they ripped out, and the new heaters being gas fired
04:17 wannabe1987 i have music in my head...
04:17 Photon939 are there still any aircon systems?
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04:19 LeadHead Probably not
04:20 LeadHead They're gonna be hurting in the summer me thinks
04:20 Photon939 they should get bigass fans as a sponsor haha
04:20 Photon939 would be sweet for the MDH
04:20 LeadHead aparently big as fans
04:20 LeadHead has portable big ass fans now
04:20 Photon939 orly
04:21 LeadHead http://www.bigassfans.com/yellowjacket/
04:21 wannabe1987 may the schwartz be with you...
04:21 LeadHead spaceballs
04:22 wannabe1987 i just watched two episodes...
04:22 wannabe1987 its WEIRD
04:22 wannabe1987 in a weird way
04:22 wannabe1987 found it on netflix
04:23 wannabe1987 also have it in odd formats on my lappy
04:23 * wannabe1987 back to watching ricky booby
04:28 arruid left #thegeekgroup
04:29 wannabe1987 see, this movie is best watched in a group...its funnier then
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04:30 exor674 I think I'm actually gonna go to bed early tonight
04:30 exor674 before my ( self-set, rarely enforced ) bedtime
04:31 wannabe1987 wow
04:31 wannabe1987 night!
04:33 exor674 ( well, midnight local time is my bedtime, so it's not that early
04:33 exor674 I've been doing 5am lately
04:33 wannabe1987 its midnight:30 here...
04:33 exor674 10:30 here
04:33 wannabe1987 not bad...
04:33 wannabe1987 where r u...colorado?
04:34 exor674 yeah
04:34 wannabe1987 denver?
04:34 wannabe1987 colorado springs?
04:34 wannabe1987 rather odd i guessed your state right off the bat
04:35 exor674 denver-area ( lakewood )
04:35 wannabe1987 ahhh
04:36 wannabe1987 i flew into DIA and spent a week at God's littlest angels in Colorado Springs last feb...
04:36 wannabe1987 made new friends in denver too :D
04:37 exor674 I wish I could make new friends heh, I've got one local friend :(
04:37 wannabe1987 awwww :(
04:37 wannabe1987 i met them in CS, at GLA in the warehouse.
04:40 * exor674 nods
04:42 wannabe1987 HP7 PT1 came out :D
04:43 exor674 yay!
04:44 wannabe1987 i know...
04:44 wannabe1987 now to acquire it!
04:45 exor674 also what did I just do to my ankle yey >_>
04:46 wannabe1987 yay!!! time for bed then...
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04:50 eightbitbrad Well, youtube search is getting closer for the bot
04:51 LeadHead woot
04:51 wannabe1987 yay
04:52 * exor674 cheer
04:52 eightbitbrad I need to get it to search on title... right now it's returning some odd things.
04:53 eightbitbrad lol
04:55 Cj1corbystarlet Is there irc software for ipad?
04:55 Photon939 yes
04:55 Photon939 or at least there is for the iphone
04:55 Photon939 so im sure there is an ipad version
04:55 Cj1corbystarlet any clue on a software name ?
04:56 LeadHead iRC is what i'd call it
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04:57 wannabe1987 and...i think its time to turn on some musics and sleep.  night all!
04:58 Photon939 night wannabe1987
04:58 wannabe1987 night photon939
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04:59 Coderjoe hi steve
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05:03 steve_____ hello
05:03 steve_____ much happening here or is it quiet?
05:03 LeadHead sup
05:03 Coderjoe those ccu cables were 14-pin, right? would you happen to remember on each end if the cable was male or female?
05:03 Coderjoe pretty quiet now
05:04 Cj1corbystarlet I'm guessin male ends ?
05:05 exor674 pretty sure male
05:05 steve_____ that I don't remember, I assume they are M/F
05:05 Coderjoe or male on one end and female on the other
05:06 Coderjoe or more accuately (based on a connector mfgr) one end socket and the other pin
05:07 Coderjoe and apparently the 14-pin cable has a max length of 100m while the 17-pin cable has a max length of 300m
05:07 Cj1corbystarlet breeze through TGG videos, in a couple you see camera end and the pannel end
05:07 steve_____ we are using the 17 min i think
05:07 steve_____ as it is the larger of the 2
05:08 Coderjoe ccu: Directly interfaces with both Z-type (26-pin) and Q-type (14-pin) camera systems.
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05:08 steve_____ it could be type z
05:09 Coderjoe oh HI MR. UPS... I know you need a new battery... shut up already
05:09 steve_____ ?
05:09 Coderjoe ups on my server shelf is beeping at me
05:09 steve_____ ah, I see
05:09 Coderjoe about needing a battery replaced
05:10 Coderjoe also apparently brainfarted wrt pincounts
05:11 steve_____ iy's ok
05:11 steve_____ I'm reather brain-dead too
05:12 steve_____ the indian head is moving
05:19 steve_____ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrkzBpeybkc
05:20 Coderjoe argh. I can't find my radio programming cable or software
05:21 Coderjoe i haven't installed it since reinstalling (after two of four sticks of ram went bad and started corrupting data)
05:21 Coderjoe buried in the massive piles of crap on my desk
05:22 Coderjoe well, found the cable
05:22 Thaery_ No BatSteve BotSteve?
05:23 Coderjoe chasing in Mississippi again?
05:23 steve_____ looks like it
05:23 steve_____ looks like he got some great footage
05:24 steve_____ I woder if he was shooting imax as well
05:24 Coderjoe ... sean was shooting imax, and he released his film
05:24 Coderjoe http://www.msichicago.org/whats-here/omnimax-3d-theater/tornado-alley/
05:25 Coderjoe and the cable appears to indeed be an FT232RL
05:25 steve_____ tthats tight, other truck
05:27 Coderjoe I'm amused that Sean got Bill Paxton to narrate
05:33 * Photon939 yawns
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05:40 dr_jkl Holy fuck this channel has a shitload of people in it.
05:40 LeadHead oh
05:42 Yaotzin majority is idle
05:42 Yaotzin which is good
05:42 Yaotzin a good channel needs idlers
05:49 steve_____ well, I'm off, you guys have a good evening
05:52 DruidicRifleman Watching the captans blog then hitting my rack
05:53 dr_jkl *giggle*
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06:00 Thaery_ So Chris endorses the Boden Level?
06:01 Coderjoe fun fact: my real name does not have "joe" anywhere in it. :-\
06:06 Thaery_ lol
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06:14 Thaery_ Couldn't you output a youtube playlist of tgg vids through s-video into a feed for ustream?
06:14 Photon939 i don't see why not
06:14 Photon939 but what's the point
06:15 Thaery_ well chris mentioned having a youtube vid stream on ustream when no one is at the lab
06:15 Thaery_ but he didn't know how
06:15 Photon939 my laptop has svideo out
06:16 Thaery_ I'm just wondering if that would work with the current switch panel
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06:30 Coderjoe ugh
06:30 Coderjoe video card composite/svideo isn't terribly great
06:31 Yaotzin There was some video streaming application I was using that let me stream youtube videos
06:31 Yaotzin ages ago
06:32 Yaotzin I can't remember what it was, or where I streamed it
06:32 Yaotzin I know wherever I streamed it let me set up on demand videos
06:34 Photon939 Coderjoe: it's streaming video, it's not gonna be stellar quality
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07:26 Cprossu my god
07:26 Cprossu http://www.bigassfans.com/airgo
07:26 Cprossu I want one
07:36 Sgt_Lemming http://www.bigassfans.com/element <--- main train station in brisbane has about a dozen of these
07:36 Sgt_Lemming they are awesom
07:36 Sgt_Lemming http://www.bigassfans.com/isis <--- and quite a few of these
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09:57 mikemol Oh, god, did I sneeze on camera yesterday? I don't remember...
10:12 mikemol Huh.
10:12 mikemol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYHPZgq_Kgo
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10:36 Elec|Desktop stupid wifi
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10:38 Sgt_Lemming heh
10:38 Sgt_Lemming there it goes again
10:38 Electronics whyyyy
10:38 Electronics this wifi dongle weorks fine on any other computer
10:39 Electronics just XP I tihnk >:(
10:39 Sgt_Lemming heh
10:39 Sgt_Lemming here's an idea, use a hardwired network :-P
10:39 Sgt_Lemming gigglebit ftw :-P
10:39 Electronics I really can't be bothered to drill holes through my house =P
10:40 Sgt_Lemming my server is currently streaming a hd movie to this machine, and transcoding and streaming another one to the PS3
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10:40 Sgt_Lemming no holes drilled here, just all running round the edges of the walls
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10:41 Elec|Desktop >:(
10:41 Sgt_Lemming heh
10:41 Sgt_Lemming what was the last you saw?
10:41 Elec|Desktop movie?
10:42 Sgt_Lemming no, in channel
10:42 Elec|Desktop ohh
10:42 Sgt_Lemming you dropped out again didn't you?
10:42 Elec|Desktop your server streaming blah...
10:42 Sgt_Lemming no holes drilled here, just all running round the edges of the walls
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10:42 Sgt_Lemming lol
10:43 Electronics I'd have to buy alot of cat5/6
10:43 Sgt_Lemming yup
10:43 Electronics like over 50m
10:43 Sgt_Lemming so did we :-P
10:43 Electronics how many connections does Ethernet use?
10:43 Sgt_Lemming there is a 15m cable just to hook this room to the rest of the house
10:43 Sgt_Lemming and cat6 isn't all that expensive
10:43 mikemol It's not.
10:44 mikemol I've got a spool sitting a few feet from me.
10:44 mikemol Well, not spool, spoolish box.
10:44 Sgt_Lemming contractors box
10:44 * mikemol nods
10:44 mikemol Picked it up at Home Depot about a year and a half ago.
10:44 Electronics so how many conductors does Ethernet need?
10:45 mikemol Electronics: Four pair, but it works best when you meet signal specs.
10:45 Sgt_Lemming 100mbit needs 4, 1gbit needs 8
10:45 mikemol Fun fact: Ethernet was originally designed for cat3.
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10:45 Sgt_Lemming yeah
10:45 Elec|Desktop cause I've got like 300m of 2 conductor- FFS >:(
10:46 mikemol Coax ethernet came out because installers couldn't/wouldn't sell it on existing copper.
10:46 * mikemol learned this yesterday.
10:46 Sgt_Lemming cause it was only designed for 10mbit as well
10:46 Sgt_Lemming 10base T
10:46 Sgt_Lemming as opposed to 10base 2
10:46 mikemol My bio-dad came to LStL. Apparently, he'd spoken with the guy who invented the thing.
10:47 Sgt_Lemming lol
10:48 * Sgt_Lemming has spoken with the man responsible for most of the TCP/IP protocol
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10:49 Sgt_Lemming he is also VP of google :-D
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10:52 mikemol Sgt_Lemming: Neat
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10:54 Sgt_Lemming Vint Cerf, he's quite a funny man
10:54 Sgt_Lemming would be a great guy to have a long conversation with I think, but I only got to have a brief chat with him
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10:58 Coderjoe up to 100 mbit only uses 2 pair. gigglebit needs all 4 pairs
10:58 Coderjoe ohai. I ken reed
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11:27 maspriborintorg I am building a house, and considering putting ethenet sockets in each room, and a network bay somewhere
11:30 Sgt_Lemming good one is to use the power points that have two power points and an ethernet point
11:30 Sgt_Lemming you end up with far more ethernet points than you need, buy you can use a patch panel to route audio, video, data or phone over them
11:31 Sgt_Lemming you can even transmit HDMI over CAT6
11:37 Thermoelectric As in those power points which usually have that seperate switch in the middle? I'd have never thought of that, now I just need to start building a house. :P
11:40 maspriborintorg I'm in France, our electrical stuff and roules are slightly different than yours :D
11:40 maspriborintorg putting power cables and sockets into metal housing is just prohibited, for instance
11:41 maspriborintorg we're on 240 volts, also
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12:00 Thermoelectric We're on 240V over here in Aus too.
12:02 Coderjoe here in the US, putting power and low voltage in the same box is prohibited. you can however get a double-wide plastic box and a plastic divider from some mfgrs
12:10 maspriborintorg Ethernet patch stuff seems not available at household retailers :/
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12:16 Cj1corbystarlet Yo peoples
12:32 Thermoelectric Hey Cj1corbystarlet
12:32 Cj1corbystarlet Howdy
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12:49 Thermoelectric I *hate* limited interwebz.
12:54 Cj1corbystarlet Yeah im limited to 70 gig a month, kinda sucks
12:58 Thermoelectric I've got 60, with uploads metered. Would be nice to get my ratio back up on Demonoid. :/
12:59 Cj1corbystarlet Yeah that sucks, my torrent machine has been turned off for a month
13:00 Thermoelectric That would kill me, I don't watch TV because of the ads, so I torrent most of the TV shows I like.
13:02 Cj1corbystarlet Yeah thats the go,  Foxtel for me minimal ads
13:02 Yaotzin Netflix streaming?
13:12 CaptainBoden http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IvVRi1_2F8
13:13 Thermoelectric Awesome
13:16 Cj1corbystarlet yay second sony quad means more cameras to source :)
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13:17 Thermoelectric I must admit, CaptainBoden, I am absolutely loving how far it is progressing
13:18 Cj1corbystarlet Any one know a easy way to create RSS feeds ........ no mess and fuss??
13:31 mtearle Thermoelectric, AS/ACIF S009 in .au requires 50mm of segregation from 240V
13:34 mtearle Coderjoe, is segregation is in the US mandated in the NEC or some other standard?
13:34 * mtearle is a standards geek
13:35 CaptainBoden Me too :) We have an incredible crew and massive support from Members (like you :) ). There's a LOT of boxes up there that came in the mail this week.
13:35 CaptainBoden Our limiting factor at this point is Funding. But that's almost always the limiting factor.
13:35 Cprossu mikemol: huh??? I thought at PARC the first ethernet installation was coax in a bus configuration with vampire taps...
13:36 Cprossu http://www.digibarn.com/collections/parts/ethernet-taps/Image43.jpg
13:36 Cprossu http://www.digibarn.com/collections/diagrams/ethernet-original/composit-ethernet-sketch.jpg
13:37 mikemol Cprossu: If it wasn't originally designed for coax, then my source is unreliable. *shrug*
13:37 Cj1corbystarlet ACIF S009 is good material if you really need to go to sleep
13:37 Cprossu http://www.digibarn.com/collections/diagrams/ethernet/ethernet.gif
13:38 Cprossu but as far as I know, at PARC, the earliest ethernet was coax.
13:38 Cj1corbystarlet I still have a bag of bnc terminators aroind here somewhere
13:38 mikemol All I was told that the original design was supposed to work with cat3, but installers didn't like that.
13:39 Cprossu I'm not even sure if "Cat 3" (telephone cable) was even called "Cat 3" back then
13:39 mtearle cat 3 with baluns (look at your average 10BaseT card for the transformers) looks and behaves like a bit of coax
13:39 mikemol It's quite probably he mixed terminology. I can't defend the position; I don't have enough info.
13:40 Cprossu yeah but I was just reading up on the IRC and saw that conclusion made. Being a computer geek I knew the parc machines were coax..
13:41 mtearle l
13:43 Cprossu and as far as I know, PARC was the first use of ethernet
13:44 * mikemol was a amused. "funny as a rubber duck"
13:44 Thermoelectric Bet your dad must be great if Chris has that opinion of him.
13:45 Thermoelectric mtearle: Cheers, didn't know that, I'm not much of a standards geek.
13:45 mikemol Coderjoe: If you haven't already, you _really_ need to get that forum account set up. Scenarios like today's "weekend update" are why they need to make sure you've done the "I agree" on the NDA, model release, etc.
13:46 mikemol er.
13:47 mikemol "funny as a rubber crutch"
13:47 Yaotzin Yeah
13:47 Yaotzin There you go
13:47 Yaotzin Which if you think about it, a rubber crutch is pretty funny
13:47 Cj1corbystarlet Funny as fuck ........ for the aussies
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13:47 Cprossu wow I am having a really rough time even trying to figure out when the TIA opened shop
13:48 mikemol Yaotzin: Depending on your sense of humor, a rubber crutch could be either very funny, or very unfunny. I find the ambiguity awesome. :)
13:48 Yaotzin How about a teflon crutch on a ice floor
13:48 Yaotzin an*
13:50 Cj1corbystarlet Have you ever seen a ekimo gymnast ?
13:53 Thermoelectric CaptainBoden: I'm not doubting it has been mentioned before, but has the lab considered solar power during the summer months? I wouldn't imagine that those A/C's, TC's and all the other many things would be nice to the power bill.
13:53 CaptainBoden Long-term, yes it's in the works.
13:53 CaptainBoden Right now we don't even have electricity in half the damn lab.
13:54 Yaotzin Wow it smells nice outside
13:54 Yaotzin I'm starting to be able to smell again
13:54 Cprossu lets see 802.3 draft was published in '83 (Ethernet II, the first standard), the first parc machines to use it that I know of were '73 and they had to modify ethernet to be used in twisted pair phone line (thus 'Ethernet over twisted pair' 10bT) in 1986... so as far as I know *and I could damn well be wrong* ethernet was not originally supposed to be over 'cat 3'
13:54 Thermoelectric A month ago the lab didn't have heat, electricity shouldn't be too far off. :)
13:55 CaptainBoden Oh we have the power ON, the building wasn't designed for what we're doing. Think about it, we're using a Pool for a High Voltage Lab...not a lot of electricity in there.
13:56 CaptainBoden The MDH is a former Gym, so it didn't have any real Doors or Electricity.
13:56 Yaotzin CaptainBoden: I had a good laugh at the cold air return in yesterday's blog
13:56 Cprossu CaptainBoden: at least there's a thick ass floor above an electrical room though
13:56 CaptainBoden We have a desperate need for an electrician who can donate their services.
13:57 Cprossu did you guys remove that pump equipment yet? I never bothered to ask
13:57 CaptainBoden yup, it's all out
13:57 Cprossu not too moldy I hope
13:57 CaptainBoden *nasty*
13:57 Thermoelectric He loved having a shower in that stagnant water.
13:57 Cj1corbystarlet and batmans towel from his truck
13:58 Cprossu omg. they didn't drain the damn thing after they covered the pool?
13:58 Yaotzin Heh heh
13:58 Yaotzin That was pretty funny
13:58 CaptainBoden You seriously haven't seen that video?
13:58 Cprossu no I haven't
13:58 Cj1corbystarlet funny as F**k  you gotta see it
13:58 Cprossu *goes searching*
13:58 CaptainBoden Someone find the link please, lol
13:58 Thermoelectric It gives quite the laugh.
13:58 * mtearle ponders
13:59 Yaotzin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebkHmf8xb0o&amp;feature=player_profilepage
14:00 Cprossu *clicks* watches
14:00 Thermoelectric Also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU9OOwmlO24
14:00 Yaotzin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebkHmf8xb0o&amp;feature=player_profilepage#t=255s  To the exact moment
14:01 Thermoelectric LOVE MAH JOB!
14:01 Cj1corbystarlet 4:16
14:01 Yaotzin It's funnier with the bike horn
14:01 Yaotzin really is
14:01 mtearle on Electricians, have you tried approaching any of the large commercial electrical companies in Grand Rapids?   the LStL is huge (at least that's the impression I get from the vids)    Based on the stuff that happens around my work, my guess it's definitely a job for multiple people (to wire the whole place for TGG needs)
14:03 mtearle you could probably convince a crew to come out for a day and work through defined bits of work
14:03 Cprossu I've never seen you with such a "Fuck my life" expression on your face =/  it's like if dr. seuss goes to hell he'll find this kind of stuff
14:03 mtearle Your cable running is going to be fun (considering the NEC obsession with steel conduit)
14:04 Cj1corbystarlet What would be good if they can find a local contractor who is willing to supervise workers,    Get all TGG sparky's  from around the word to fly in for 2  weeks and rock out
14:04 Cprossu man it's like a present from hell at every corner
14:05 Yaotzin Still waiting on the superpowers
14:05 mtearle Cj1corbystarlet, I suspect Michigan has crazy licensing/union laws stopping that .... not to mention US visa regulations
14:05 Cprossu CaptainBoden: a bugs life, that's priceless
14:05 Cj1corbystarlet Got me buggered why the USA still use metal conduit and metal j boxes
14:06 Cprossu "hang on, I don't want to die that way!" I see a t-shirt
14:06 maspriborintorg here in france metal conduits is just forbidden is most installations
14:06 Cj1corbystarlet mtearle  it can be done :)
14:06 CaptainBoden Because we have MUCH tigher electrical codes than the rest of the world. Plastic conduit is powerfully stupid for antying but Class-2 wiring.
14:06 maspriborintorg even the water pipes are in plastics now
14:07 Cj1corbystarlet And your reference to back that up captain is......
14:07 Cj1corbystarlet The rest of the world does it with no issues
14:07 eightbitbrad Good $time_of_day_in_your_neck_of_the_woods all.
14:07 mtearle my take is the NEC is a proscriptive standard, rather than a performance based standard like AS3000 Part 1
14:07 maspriborintorg aboard ships, it is often metal conduits I believe
14:08 Cj1corbystarlet ships yes
14:08 Cj1corbystarlet I must dust off my as3000 some day
14:08 Cprossu I like NEC. All my electrical for this room is surface mounted steel conduit, and I wouldn't want it any other way
14:09 Cprossu 10 gauge wire too, 20 amp sockets, 20 amp breakers
14:09 mtearle maspriborintorg, it's a lot to with earthing and how that's handled, and also the level of insulation provided on the average cable
14:09 maspriborintorg in aircraft,most the time no conduits, naked wire looms, probably for weight issues, and better quality insulations too
14:09 CaptainBoden My reference? Well, aside from the fact that I've worked in High Voltage/High Energy Physics for 15 years, was raised by an IBEW electrician (Certified Substation Technician), who was raised by a Lineman/Foreman, have wired 2 houses from scratch, spent a lifetime doing industrial electrical work, and am competent to do electrical from milivolt gear to megavolt gear.....I really don't know much about electricity at all.
14:09 Cj1corbystarlet You ever done any serious work with metal conduit
14:10 CaptainBoden I've run 6" metal conduit up a 23 story building....so I've had a little experience.
14:11 Cj1corbystarlet captain i aint douting your experience,  i was after the reason why metal is better ?
14:11 maspriborintorg at least they provide better mechanical protection, it is one reason
14:11 CaptainBoden Metal conduit (either EMT or thickwall) provides a positive grounding system, unlimited abrasion resistance, and fire protection for the interior conductors.
14:12 eightbitbrad Any objections if I bring BotSteve's beta brother, EightbitBot online and let you guys thrash the youtube search for me?
14:12 mtearle Insurance is also the other reason
14:12 CaptainBoden It also acts as a continuous heatsink, allowing a safer installation.
14:12 Yaotzin What happened to botsteve
14:12 CaptainBoden PVC doesn't dissipate heat, burns like hell, and offers no grounding support whatsoever.
14:12 Thermoelectric BatSteve and BotSteve timed out a while ago.
14:12 Cprossu it's also good at protecting conductors from being touched by idiots xD
14:12 CaptainBoden PVC certainly has it's place, I love it for Class-2, but for real power, no way.
14:13 eightbitbrad Yaotzin: No clue, it left the channel last night and never came back.  I suspect BatSteve lost connectivity
14:13 CaptainBoden I'm not against plastics, I fucking LOVE PEX for water.
14:13 CaptainBoden But for power, no, give me metal.
14:13 Cj1corbystarlet how do you bond your earth to the metal conduit
14:14 Cprossu well the electrical box they hook to is grounded, the tubing attaching to it is too
14:15 Cj1corbystarlet yes that does work,
14:15 mtearle is there a seperate earth wire running with the active/neutral ?
14:15 Cprossu of course
14:15 CaptainBoden yes, there is a Grounding Conductor and a Grounded conductor.
14:16 Cj1corbystarlet Parallel earth runs .... hmm
14:16 Cprossu recall also that the breaker unlike other places is before the outlet
14:16 mtearle shielding's another advantage ....
14:16 Cprossu there's no fuse on our outlets
14:16 CaptainBoden In some places (Code varies) they are bonded at the load center.
14:16 Cj1corbystarlet i assume they bond copper cable direct to the galv boxes and conduit ?
14:17 CaptainBoden However, in our HVL, we have a Third level of grounding as well ;) The HVL has a MASSIVE multiply-redundant RF grounding system.
14:17 Cj1corbystarlet That is a separate issue:)
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14:20 eightbitbrad .yt Captain's Blog
14:20 EightBitBot eightbitbrad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnt-BPOwAB4
14:21 eightbitbrad okay, in theory, you can search for youtube stuff with a .yt
14:22 eightbitbrad EightBitBot also has everything else BotSteve did.
14:22 Cprossu .yt seagate st-251 factory
14:22 EightBitBot Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0huAoKUzGg
14:22 Cprossu I'll be damned
14:22 Cprossu it works
14:22 eightbitbrad :)
14:23 eightbitbrad It was simple to implement.  I just took the google search code, and thre 'site:youtube.com ' in front of the query string.
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14:24 Cprossu oh CaptainBoden: I actually snagged a spare mfm drive the other day
14:24 eightbitbrad .wa The meaning of life, the universe and everything
14:24 EightBitBot Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything;42, (according to Douglas Adams\' humorous science-fiction novel The Hitchhiker\'s Guide to the Galaxy)
14:25 Cprossu .wa French military victories
14:25 EightBitBot Couldn't grab results from json stringified precioussss.
14:25 eightbitbrad hrm, that's interesting
14:25 maspriborintorg lol
14:25 Cprossu .g French military victories
14:25 EightBitBot Cprossu: http://www.militaryfactory.com/battles/french_military_victories.asp
14:26 Cprossu boo
14:26 eightbitbrad ah!
14:26 eightbitbrad Plug that into WA in your browser
14:26 eightbitbrad Development of this topic is under investigation...
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14:26 eightbitbrad besides, I didn't change the WA code. heh
14:27 Cprossu lol that's the funniest page I've seen on WA
14:27 Cprossu actually lets see
14:27 Cprossu .wa poop
14:27 EightBitBot poop  (English word);1->noun->obscene terms for feces, 2->noun->a stupid foolish person, 3->noun->slang terms for inside information, 4->noun->the rear part of a ship;p\'oop  (IPA: p\\:02c8up);poop  (no hyphenation)  (4 letters ->1 syllable);1405  (Late Middle Ages->European Renaissance)  (606 years ago);Middle French -> Italian -> Latin;poops;dirt -> shite -> turd -> nincompoop -> ninny -> low-down -> the skinny -> after pa
14:27 eightbitbrad lol
14:28 eightbitbrad time to check Steve's issue list and see what else I can work on for this.
14:30 eightbitbrad Oh this issue... lol: Add ability to curse randomly at Seroster
14:30 Thermoelectric Heehee
14:31 eightbitbrad It's not much, but I feel useful now anyway... until I can get this equipment rounded up and sent up there.
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14:33 CaptainBoden tggcory you in there yet?
14:35 cctoide I can see "...the cable tray!" getting used in a remix
14:36 cctoide from the latest log
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14:39 SparkyStudio_ Hi all, looks like a draught in the gallery, at least we know the stream is live
14:39 Cprossu o_O
14:39 Cprossu yeah, so how goes it?
14:39 SparkyStudio_ Still say the testcard could do with a battery clock in the middle
14:40 SparkyStudio_ Not bad thanks cprossu, how's you ?
14:41 Cprossu not too bad, I still think the testcard needs a bodenhead though
14:41 Cprossu http://oi56.tinypic.com/30sewqu.jpg
14:41 SparkyStudio_ And Omni at the bottom
14:41 Cprossu well where at the bottom?
14:42 SparkyStudio_ Get rid of the stripes
14:42 Cprossu you'll loose an important part of the test image if you do that
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14:43 Cprossu I attempted to somewhat replicate the contrast on the bd head lol
14:43 Electronics ok no droppy computer anymore
14:43 SparkyStudio_ They're not using it as a test image, just something for us to look at
14:43 Cprossu heh true
14:43 cctoide Moose could probably do a neat wooden test card with an embedded digital clock
14:43 cctoide way too much for something so trivial though :P
14:44 cctoide er, *too much effort
14:44 Thermoelectric We are geeks, from when are things ever not overcomplicated?
14:44 Electronics ^
14:44 Cprossu Thermoelectric: when what we makes actually works
14:44 CaptainBoden Stream going live
14:44 SparkyStudio_ All they need is an old battery analogue clock with second hands, mount the testcard on a board, and fit the mechanism
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14:45 Thermoelectric Cprossu: True
14:45 SparkyStudio_ There is life at the lab
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14:45 SparkyStudio_ maybe not, Just Cory :D
14:45 Cprossu wow that last radio key with the buzz
14:46 Cprossu sounds just like the control room at chernobyl
14:46 cctoide heh, gallery looks way brighter on the captain's log camera
14:46 CaptainBoden 10:45Hrs, Sunday, Cory reports in for work.
14:46 CaptainBoden He's the only one at the lab. He was the last person to leave last night at Midnight.
14:46 SparkyStudio_ Captain, when are the other vids going to be uploaded ?
14:46 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx9NIw2cJls&amp;feature=player_detailpage#t=50s
14:46 CaptainBoden He's working on that right now.
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14:47 tggcory Sup kids~
14:47 eightbitbrad Cory's freakin' dedicated.
14:47 eightbitbrad hiiiiiii tggcory
14:47 Electronics yello
14:48 eightbitbrad I love the glow of the monitors providing his shadow on the back wall
14:48 tggcory :D
14:48 CaptainBoden Cory's got heart, it's why I'm so hard on him. He's a good guy, and one of the most dedicated people we have.
14:49 CaptainBoden You watch, he's going to accomplish great things in the coming year.
14:49 Cj1corbystarlet We look forward to it
14:50 Thermoelectric Has he got a real haircut yet?
14:50 eightbitbrad Is there anything we're dying to have, feature wise, in the bot?  I'm trying to prioritze the issue list
14:50 tggcory Thermoelectric: >:|
14:50 CaptainBoden He's on the live stream right now, you can see his mop...er....hair.
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14:51 Thermoelectric CaptainBoden: Thought you were going to take him to your barber. Oh well. (get him while he sleeps!) :P
14:51 Cj1corbystarlet I think corey could do the whole military, short back and sides :)
14:51 Cj1corbystarlet *cory
14:51 wannabe1987 poor cory...poor cory's hair
14:51 tggcory GOD no
14:52 tggcory I can't have super short hair because I have scalp problems
14:52 Electronics =P
14:52 wannabe1987 i cannot see cory looking good with that short of hair...
14:52 tggcory (That is a sexy phrase..."scalp problems")
14:52 * mtearle thinks hats!
14:52 CaptainBoden He looks like an angry lesbian with short hair
14:52 cctoide Cory with a high and tight?
14:52 Cj1corbystarlet Haha
14:52 Electronics ok my highlight-important-people in channel is successful =D
14:52 tggcory mtearle: Why yes, I do play TF2 :34
14:52 tggcory :3*
14:53 eightbitbrad Spy sappin' mah sentry.
14:53 tggcory NEED AH DISPENSER HERE
14:53 eightbitbrad Go go go, charge!
14:53 Electronics please don't play TF2 over IRC XD
14:54 eightbitbrad That Electronics is a spy!
14:54 eightbitbrad XD
14:54 eightbitbrad okay, I'll stop
14:55 CaptainBoden tggcory did you get the final renders from Liz on the captain's blog intros?
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14:56 tggcory Lemme see if they're on the network
14:56 tggcory Yep!
14:56 CaptainBoden IM them to me
14:59 Electronics idea of a great demonstration, takes a while to set up but worth it: Uranium 235 Fission. The ping pong demo
15:00 CaptainBoden I'd love to, get me enough mousetraps to cover the floor of the MDH
15:01 eightbitbrad that's.... a lot of mousetraps
15:01 CaptainBoden yes
15:01 cctoide packed edge to edge or spread out?
15:01 eightbitbrad 3"x10" average size...  holy crap.
15:01 Cprossu if you want to do something complicated, just cut the concrete in the pool (recycle it and make some shielding), procure some enriched uranium fuel assemblies, seal the pool really well, and.....
15:02 Electronics XD
15:02 Electronics I wouldn't be surprised if you could get  like 500 mousetraps donated
15:02 cctoide what are the dimensions on the MDH?
15:03 eightbitbrad BigXHuge i think.
15:03 wannabe1987 lol
15:04 Electronics there were some plans for the building on the forums somewhere I think
15:04 CaptainBoden 500...lol
15:04 CaptainBoden Think closer to about 50,000
15:04 CaptainBoden I didn't get to where I am by doing things in a small way ;)
15:05 Electronics plus 50,000 pingpong balls. But then where would you store them?...
15:05 CaptainBoden btw, anyone got a copy of Office 07?
15:05 wannabe1987 one of the classrooms downstairs...
15:07 dagnyscott no. dear god why would you even want that.
15:08 Electronics why not?
15:08 wannabe1987 its set up weird...
15:08 dagnyscott Office 07?
15:08 wannabe1987 open office is better :P
15:08 dagnyscott the ribbon
15:08 dagnyscott the ribbon is terrible
15:08 Electronics ohh
15:08 Electronics I'm not watching the stream =P (I presume it's on the stream)
15:09 wannabe1987 i'm confused.  and no i don't watch the stream often...
15:09 wannabe1987 i'd rather listen to my musics
15:10 Electronics ohh I didn't see Captain's message XD
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15:10 Electronics CaptainBoden: yes?...
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15:11 CaptainBoden OpenOffice IS better, but I work in the real world and have to deal with people who are morons and stuck in Windows.
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15:12 wannabe1987 hi moxiemike
15:12 CaptainBoden Besides....Thunderbird REALLY sucks as an email client.
15:12 MoxieMike hey guys
15:12 Electronics as in I have Office 07
15:12 eightbitbrad hiya MoxieMike
15:12 MoxieMike i like thunderbird
15:12 eightbitbrad .yt Yakkity Sax
15:12 EightBitBot eightbitbrad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ
15:12 CaptainBoden And I like Vegemite, there's no accounting for taste.
15:12 MoxieMike ok
15:12 wannabe1987 i use web based email
15:13 dagnyscott openoffice is more compatible with office than office is
15:13 CaptainBoden All email is web based.
15:13 wannabe1987 lol
15:13 wannabe1987 no shit
15:13 eightbitbrad I use web-based clients mostly myself... except at work.  I pop my mail off of the evil Exchange server to my Linux box and re-serve it via IMAP to Claws
15:13 Thermoelectric Did I hear Vegemite mentioned? Oh gawd, that stuff tastes so good.
15:13 wannabe1987 i don't use a client.  never saw reason to use something else
15:13 eightbitbrad I don't trust IT to store my mail properly.
15:14 CaptainBoden I am my own IT.
15:14 CaptainBoden And I've used email clients (and web based, I use Gmail) since Pine.
15:14 eightbitbrad CaptainBoden: Oh how I wish I could be at work.... at home, totally different story.
15:14 Cprossu CaptainBoden: does seamonkey still have an email client built into it?
15:14 eightbitbrad Work, I'm IT for other companies with our software installed.
15:14 CaptainBoden No idea offhand
15:14 Cprossu (aka communicator in a weird sort of way)
15:15 Cprossu man pine, I haven't heard that in years
15:16 Cprossu as far as 'good' email clients....uh...
15:16 Cprossu I think I lost faith
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15:17 Cprossu I can't remember but at one point I used something that started with an 'Eu'
15:17 dagnyscott Eudora.
15:17 Cprossu .g email client eudora
15:17 EightBitBot Cprossu: http://www.eudora.com/
15:17 Cprossu yeha that's it
15:17 Electronics I tried that I think
15:18 dagnyscott I use Thunderbird if I have to use an actual client
15:18 Electronics just prefered web based clients
15:18 dagnyscott I prefer gmail on the web.
15:18 Cprossu I like web clients myself because there's less of a threat of nasty code getting to you
15:18 Electronics which reminds me, how's the TheGeekGroup email addresses for the cards coming along?
15:18 Cprossu but to say that they are optimal is garbage
15:19 Cprossu yahoo's got the worst at the moment
15:19 Electronics =3
15:19 Cprossu it's barely usable
15:19 CaptainBoden They're being included in the membership kits, along with a blog space and some other stuff. Moose has details on that.
15:19 Cprossu AOL's sucks too
15:19 Electronics I use yahoo. It is quite crap since they switched
15:19 Cprossu (has an old netscape.net account (you can laugh)) that got 'ported' to aim mail
15:20 Cprossu it was so cool though
15:20 Cprossu netscape gave us 5MB of storage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
15:20 CaptainBoden I still have an active Hotmail account that dates to within the first few months of Hotmail's existence, lol
15:20 Cprossu I think hotmail at the time was 2.5MB
15:21 wannabe1987 wow
15:21 Cprossu I remember thinking I was so cool uploading a 1mb file to my netscape account so I could pull it down elsewhere
15:21 * wannabe1987 leaves; home for dinner
15:23 Cprossu man those were the days
15:23 Cprossu netscape search was the best search engine on the web
15:24 Cprossu google was just starting out and was a joke
15:25 Cprossu (slow and inaccurate if I remember correctly)
15:25 Cprossu anyone remember the old school netscape search engine?
15:26 Electronics vaguely...
15:26 maspriborintorg there were lycos and altavista too
15:26 Electronics I remember using it one of the first time I used a computer at school
15:26 Cprossu lycos... man they had funny commercials
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15:27 CaptainBoden aw fuck me
15:27 Electronics ?
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15:27 Yaotzin_ is now known as Yaotzin
15:27 CaptainBoden OpenOffice doesn't have an integral email client?
15:28 eightbitbrad CaptainBoden: Nope.
15:28 eightbitbrad Never did.
15:28 CaptainBoden grrrrrrr
15:28 CaptainBoden The fuck did I just bother installing it....
15:28 Cprossu wow that sucks =/
15:28 Electronics lol
15:29 SparkyStudio_ Open office is just for those that can't afford MS office .....  like me
15:29 Electronics nice having a student discount =D
15:30 eightbitbrad SparkyStudio_: I disagree.  I can afford it, I choose not to waste the money for as often as I need to access MS documents.
15:30 eightbitbrad :)
15:30 SparkyStudio_ Problem is, i have 5 computers :P
15:30 eightbitbrad I've got 3.
15:30 Electronics doesn't the main lisence allow you to install it on up to 5 computers or something?
15:31 SparkyStudio_ I don't know, thought it was just one
15:31 Electronics I've also got 3 legal XP buisness lisences for like 500 computers or something
15:31 maspriborintorg I count 6 computers here but half of them belong to my wife
15:32 Cprossu http://web.archive.org/web/19981201081222/http://www61.netscape.com/index.html
15:32 maspriborintorg only one tower, the others are laptops
15:32 Cprossu man those were the days
15:32 maspriborintorg and a thin client that I'm trying to unlock from crappy secured firmware
15:33 SparkyStudio_ I have 4 towers and a netbook, and i live on my own :P  i have them set up for different tasks, the one i'm on at the moment is in my studio
15:34 Cprossu I have too many computers of too many types to bother counting
15:34 SparkyStudio_ oh yeah, and a BBC B+
15:34 Cprossu which thin client are you trying to liberate, maspriborintorg?
15:34 eightbitbrad Cprossu: I just purged a bunch of unusuable stuff in my latest move
15:35 maspriborintorg I have 75 digital cameras and 200+ mobile phones :D
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15:35 cctoide domestic terrorism starter kit? :P
15:36 maspriborintorg http://www.flickr.com/photos/64683169@N00/2293963034/
15:36 cctoide damn
15:36 maspriborintorg just one of my collections :/
15:37 maspriborintorg 99,8 % of them are not working anymore
15:37 Cprossu no bag phones?
15:37 maspriborintorg bag phones are too bulky
15:38 maspriborintorg but begin to be pretty rare
15:38 Cprossu no motorola flip phones?
15:38 cctoide we went from tiny black and white screens to iPhone level stuff in... 8, 9 years?
15:38 maspriborintorg I have flip phones but I nned the find the one with the red led display, that appears in a 90's movie
15:39 Cprossu http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kHh0SOSpETQ/SNtFHEOOmeI/AAAAAAAABug/fmd5e-8RSAI/s320/23612-004-92012F57.jpg
15:39 Cprossu I have one that has a amber
15:39 Cprossu display iirc
15:39 maspriborintorg just unobtainium :'(
15:40 Cprossu you know what was funny about that phone though?
15:40 Cprossu 15 minutes talk time.
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15:40 EightBitBot Oh balls, it's him again...
15:40 EightBitBot Oh balls, it's him again...
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15:40 Cprossu o_O
15:40 Cprossu wtf?
15:40 eightbitbrad LOL
15:40 Seroster AHOY folks!
15:41 eightbitbrad apparently Seroster crashed EightBitBot
15:41 Seroster And who the fuck invited eightbitbot?
15:41 EightBitBot joined #thegeekgroup
15:41 eightbitbrad I did, since BotSteve bailed
15:41 Seroster ANd where is my loverboy Botsteve?
15:41 cctoide BotSteve is MIA
15:41 cctoide search and rescue teams are being dispatched
15:41 Seroster Mashed In Action?
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15:41 eightbitbrad but hey, Youtube searches work now!
15:42 eightbitbrad .yt Yakkity Sax
15:42 EightBitBot eightbitbrad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ
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15:57 Electronics .yt .yt
15:57 EightBitBot Electronics: http://www.youtube.com/user/YT
15:57 Electronics hm
15:57 eightbitbrad are you trying to blow the bot up? lol
15:57 Electronics why would I ever do that?!
15:57 eightbitbrad because it'd be fun!
15:57 eightbitbrad .yt .thegeekgroup
15:57 EightBitBot eightbitbrad: http://www.youtube.com/user/thegeekgroup
15:58 Electronics what language does it run on?
15:58 eightbitbrad oh!
15:58 eightbitbrad Python
15:58 eightbitbrad that's interesting....
15:58 eightbitbrad .yt .eightbitbradus
15:58 EightBitBot eightbitbrad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnt-BPOwAB4&amp;feature=related
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15:58 Electronics .yt 0/0
15:58 EightBitBot Electronics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc3-jsdcTvs
15:58 Electronics .yt i=5/0
15:58 EightBitBot Electronics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw2KzruJS5s
15:58 Electronics stupid thing
15:59 eightbitbrad Well, it's not flawless, but it's better than nothign for now.
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15:59 Electronics gah, I don't know what to do
16:00 Electronics I tihnk a bit of HL2DM
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16:04 Cj1corbystarlet Ladies and Gents it's 0014hrs i'm off to get some beauty sleep
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16:09 JA12 Electronics: if you don't know what to do, I might have a Seroster style answer to that
16:09 Seroster Waitwhat
16:09 JA12 do a red bull challenge. no not the redbull electronics hacking challenge, just go find a red bull and milk it
16:09 * Seroster puts a seal of approval on that JA12 statement
16:10 JA12 :D
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16:13 DruidicRiflema morning geeks nerds ect
16:14 eightbitbrad heya DruidicRiflema
16:14 Seroster Ahoy DruidicRiflema
16:14 Seroster And hello Ponko92
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16:16 Ponko92 what you up to tggcory?
16:17 Seroster Elloh there, brit!
16:17 mashpriborintorg we are waiting for the videos, Cory ! :D
16:17 Ponko92 alright Seroster
16:18 Ponko92 wheres LeadHead
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16:22 Ponko92 SPARTANS what is your occupation
16:23 Ponko92 hmm why the inactivity?
16:24 eightbitbrad it's quiet.  I'm hacking on bot code this morning
16:24 Arruid it was this way for a while yesterday as well
16:24 Yaotzin eightbitbrad: http://www.mirc.net/projects.php?go=1138067354
16:24 Yaotzin throw this on the bot
16:24 Yaotzin make a new channel for it, have fun on IRC
16:25 Ponko92 no on here i mean
16:25 eightbitbrad Uno via bot.
16:25 eightbitbrad hmmm I'd have to rewrite it in Python
16:25 LeadHead whtsup
16:25 Arruid lol. it was slow like this in here yesterday as well.
16:25 Ponko92 yay LeadHead is here
16:25 Ponko92 lol
16:28 Yaotzin like #tggUno
16:28 Ponko92 ahh noted
16:29 Yaotzin I've yet to find a Euchre
16:29 eightbitbrad heh
16:29 Yaotzin although no one knows what Euchre is unless they're from Michigan
16:29 eightbitbrad I'll do some poking around, can't say I've programmed card games before
16:29 Ponko92 nope
16:29 eightbitbrad but it might be fun
16:29 Yaotzin irc uno is pretty fun
16:29 Ponko92 i'm form the english equivalent of Detriot but less violent
16:30 Yaotzin I'd host it myself if I could run mIRC
16:30 Ponko92 because we have GM
16:30 Yaotzin if I could get Wine to work correctly
16:30 eightbitbrad yeah, I don't feel like messing with all of that
16:30 Ponko92 keep it in the bottle maybe?
16:30 Ponko92 lol
16:31 eightbitbrad I think BatSteve is going to be running the 'official' bot, I'm just giving him a hand with it.
16:31 Yaotzin well if you have mIRC then that uno script is easy to run
16:32 Ponko92 lol i here morse code
16:32 Ponko92 hear*
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16:33 speedrunnerG55 Hi geeks
16:33 DruidicRiflema :( elections suck... I though people couldn't get any stupider yesterday... and to day i've allready been proven horribly wrong and i have onl;y been out of bed for 30 minutes
16:33 Ponko92 hello speedrunnerG55
16:33 DruidicRiflema hey speed
16:34 eightbitbrad heya speedrunnerG55
16:34 Yaotzin Speedy speed guy
16:34 cctoide man, I should read 2012/aliens/conspiracies crazies' threads more often
16:34 cctoide so fucking hilarious
16:34 Ponko92 lol
16:34 Yaotzin I can't laugh through palming my face so hard
16:35 * speedrunnerG55 facepalm
16:36 DruidicRiflema Watch the anchent aliens episode about the nazi's LAWLS
16:36 cctoide apparently some people really have a sci-fi understanding of science
16:36 DruidicRiflema how did they loose with Allien intevention
16:36 Ponko92 they is more entertaining comedy on there cctoide then in gene wilder richard crosby films lol
16:36 cctoide also depressing to see the "10% of our brains" myth still won't die
16:36 Ponko92 and thats hard to beast
16:37 MoxieMike no kidding
16:37 Ponko92 beat*
16:37 speedrunnerG55 I use all my brain. Just not all at once
16:38 Ponko92 exactly ;) lol
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16:39 kvwest hi
16:39 kvwest can you here me
16:39 speedrunnerG55 Ughh ok
16:39 speedrunnerG55 Yes we can
16:39 Ponko92 umm how soo kvwest?
16:39 speedrunnerG55 Hello there kvwest
16:40 kvwest hi speedrunnerG55
16:40 cctoide what I'm actually interested in seeing is "believers" going nuts when Dec 2012 rolls around
16:40 speedrunnerG55 I can read your text but i cant "hear" you
16:40 eightbitbrad kvwest: No, but I can read your text.
16:41 cctoide though I have a feeling it's going to end with people getting hurt :/
16:41 Ponko92 hey kvwest and as speedrunnerG55 says i can read but not hear
16:41 speedrunnerG55 When jan 2013 goes by
16:41 Ponko92 uh ok then lol
16:42 kvwest can anyone help me in finding a how to for making a farnsworth-hirsch fusor
16:46 eightbitbrad is now known as ebb-away
16:46 kvwest i repeat can anyone help me in finding a how to for making a farnsworth-hirsch fusor
16:47 Ponko92 peeps help the guy out
16:47 SparkyStudio_ kvwest, you would probably be better posting in TGG forum, high voltage section
16:47 kvwest ok thanks
16:48 Ponko92 i could i knew how and yeah thats a good suggestion
16:48 SparkyStudio_ When someone sees your thread they can try to help, but be patient
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16:50 Ponko92 i'm guessing Chris has taken the day off
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16:50 Seroster .g how to make a fusor
16:50 EightBitBot Seroster: http://www.fusor.net/newbie/files/Ligon-QED-IE.pdf
16:50 Seroster There you go kwest....
16:51 Ponko92 he left Seroster
16:51 SparkyStudio_ Ponko92 he said something about going shooting, he was on here earlier
16:51 Seroster Too bad
16:51 Seroster SparkyStudio_, he said so in the capn blog too
16:52 Ponko92 yeah he said that in the blog video too i believe
16:52 SparkyStudio_ That's where i heard it too :)
16:52 Ponko92 needs time off
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16:53 Ponko92 Chris deserves his time off
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16:56 speedrunnerG55 Hes so buissy
16:57 Ponko92 he's like the head of all of it im not surprised
16:57 mashpriborintorg It should be great to see Moose on the irc also
16:58 mashpriborintorg she must be very busy also with the gg card kids, the website and all
16:59 mashpriborintorg They are all doing incredibly work for us
16:59 Ponko92 yeah in the long run it'll all be worth it
17:00 speedrunnerG55 What exactly does havving a card do for you
17:00 mashpriborintorg you have a card :)
17:00 Electronics blog space, email address, you have a card...
17:00 Electronics secret stuff on the back or somthing if you have a reader
17:01 DruidicRiflema And having the card certify's that you are epic.
17:01 SparkyStudio_ Paying for one means you are donating, you also get a GG email and a blog, for those who visit the lab, it will be an access key etc
17:01 SparkyStudio_ plus it's cool to own one
17:01 speedrunnerG55 I should get one
17:02 speedrunnerG55 What payment do they acsept
17:02 mashpriborintorg But the store is not online for now, they hd an issue with the card printer
17:02 Electronics paypal...cash...
17:02 mikemol Late to the app party, but..
17:02 DruidicRiflema speedrunner
17:03 DruidicRiflema Are you sure your epic enough?
17:03 SparkyStudio_ Moose can organise other payment methods if you have a problem using paypal
17:03 DruidicRiflema you can pay to pay pal as long as you have a CC you can also get temperary gift cards
17:03 speedrunnerG55 App party?
17:03 mikemol CaptainBoden: For a mail client, try Thunderbird or Evolution. Thunderbird if you want something 'light', Evolution if you want an Outlook (not Outlook Express) replacement (or near-replacement).
17:04 mikemol Evolution's a good client, if your system has the stones for it.
17:04 Ponko92 morse code
17:05 SparkyStudio_ Ponko92, the morse is probably a station identifier for a repeater, probably ham radio
17:05 Ponko92 i would of thought so
17:06 speedrunnerG55 For a second i thought you said moose code at first
17:06 mashpriborintorg lol
17:06 SparkyStudio_ you got moose on the brain :P
17:06 Ponko92 i'm playing a RTS military game and hearing that makes me think hmmm that the game?
17:07 * mikemol sighs
17:07 mikemol I hate SAMSUNG drives.
17:08 mikemol A long, long while back, I bought a 1TB SAMSUNG for $100 on Newegg. It flaked, I discovered it had really crappy firmware, and I got it RMA'd.
17:08 speedrunnerG55 Samsung? Man they make everything
17:08 mikemol Less than a month later, the RMA drive flaked, but their RMA system wouldn't take the serial number.
17:08 tesla4d I was about to start going on about the structure of Japanese corporations, but... Isn't Samsung Korean?
17:08 Electronics lol
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17:09 mikemol So, to this day, I've still got a crappy SAMSUNG 1TB drive whose firmware misreports some data, and which already has (or did, back when I tried to RMA it) bad sectors which failed to reallocate.
17:09 mikemol These past couple days, I've been torturing it.
17:09 mikemol First, by putting NTFS on it. :)
17:10 ebb-away mikemol: Well, there's your problem.
17:10 ebb-away is now known as eightbitbrad
17:10 mikemol Then I put a single file full of nulls on that filesystem.
17:10 speedrunnerG55 Ntfs. On an external
17:10 speedrunnerG55 Cool
17:10 speedrunnerG55 Ops
17:10 speedrunnerG55 I mean not cool
17:10 mikemol Then I took the md5sum of an equivalent number of NULLs (6d6122ab5f3f3c2873dadbefac48d45b)
17:11 speedrunnerG55 You would need to sign on to see it
17:11 SparkyStudio_ I have NTFS on my externals
17:11 eightbitbrad speedrunnerG55: Thanks for reminding me, I need to get my card too once they get them up for sale again.
17:11 mikemol Now I'm working at reading back the file I put on it, to verify that the file of nulls wrote and read properly.
17:11 mikemol I started that at 13:27:06 GMT.
17:11 Electronics lol
17:12 mikemol I don't expect it will be done until about 23:30:00 GMT.
17:12 speedrunnerG55 GMT ftw
17:13 mikemol When it wrote out the file, it took about 10 hours. That's why I'm estimating about 4AM my time for when it finishes. :)
17:13 mikemol I got so accustomed to having all my servers on GMT, I started putting my desktop systems on it, too.
17:13 Electronics hehe
17:13 mikemol Confuses the heck out of WoW's internal clock. Dunno if WINE has a way to apply a clock offset.
17:14 speedrunnerG55 Huh
17:14 speedrunnerG55 Wine lol
17:14 speedrunnerG55 What os you running
17:14 mikemol Well, when I say it confuses the clock, I mean that WoW's clock things I'm in GMT locally.
17:14 mikemol speedrunnerG55: Gentoo Linux.
17:14 Ponko92 red or white?
17:15 mikemol Ponko92: ?
17:15 eightbitbrad mikemol: a wine joke.
17:15 speedrunnerG55 I use ubuntu
17:15 speedrunnerG55 XD
17:15 mikemol Ubuntu is good for certain applications.
17:16 mikemol Their server edition is fine as a server OS. I don't like their desktop edition if I can avoid it.
17:16 mikemol I'm using Debian on my servers, currently.
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17:16 mikemol Ubuntu's on my laptop right now, but I regret that more each time I use it.
17:17 speedrunnerG55 My laotops to old to run 10.10
17:17 Electronics http://nyan.cat/
17:17 speedrunnerG55 But i made it do it anyway
17:17 speedrunnerG55 Nyan cat FTW
17:17 Electronics =P
17:17 Electronics just found i
17:17 Electronics it
17:18 speedrunnerG55 ive been waching it yesterdey a lot
17:18 Electronics it's EPIC
17:18 mikemol I didn't hate the "control buttons on the left" change until I had to use it on a touchscreen tablet.
17:18 mikemol I'm sure it's *much* more convenient for sinister folk...
17:18 mikemol s/touchscreen tablet/penabled display/
17:18 tesla4d no, it's not
17:19 mikemol tesla4d: Are you using it in a tablet/pen screen environment?
17:19 * mikemol hates having his arm cross his FOV in order to click X to close a window.
17:19 tesla4d No, but I've dealt with it on the desktop and I know what it's like to be left-handed.
17:19 JA12 mikemol: unity is crap currently. but there still is classical desktop still available
17:20 mikemol tesla4d: Ah, sure. My "much more convenient" was meant to be context-limited to touchscreens and pen displays.
17:20 speedrunnerG55 Netbook adition?
17:20 tesla4d That doesn't mean I can't think about it and apply what I know about user interfaces.
17:21 JA12 it'll be available in 11.04 too. but after that, I don't know. they might try to remove the classical option in 11.10
17:21 mikemol JA12: Is the term 'unity' supposed to encompass the Wayland display?
17:21 speedrunnerG55 I herd 11 will have universal tool bar
17:21 JA12 mikemol: no I'm talking about that gui
17:22 mikemol JA12: Oh, so 10.10 uses Unity by default? I didn't realize that's what that was.
17:22 tesla4d It would make it easier to reach the buttons without obstructing the content you're viewing, but how often are you looking at that content while you're reaching for the buttons? The benefit is outweighed by the buttons' proximity to the menus on the menubar.
17:22 mikemol tesla4d: "how often are you looking at content while reaching for buttons" --> All the time, for me.
17:22 JA12 mikemol: that's what canonical has planned. don't know how it turns out
17:23 speedrunnerG55 It funnney When the gui is gewey
17:23 * eightbitbrad <3s XFCE
17:23 speedrunnerG55 Ita
17:23 tesla4d mikemol, well *there's* your problem
17:23 speedrunnerG55 Its
17:23 mikemol speedrunnerG55: I did find the 'wobble' of "extra" special effects to be amusing in a "gooey" fashion. :)
17:24 tesla4d Human peripheral vision kind of sucks. Reaching for those buttons without looking at them will never end well, left or right handed.
17:24 speedrunnerG55 Lol
17:24 JA12 mikemol: oh sorry, I read that incorrectly. 10.10 desktop edition has classical by default
17:24 mikemol tesla4d: I'm primarily a keyboard guy. My hands are operating controls while I'm already looking at things and thinking about what to do next. Hence my irritation with the FOV stuff.
17:24 Seroster Blaaah blaaah blaaaah
17:24 eightbitbrad mikemol: Running awesomewm or the like?
17:24 mikemol Penabled displays are nice, though, because they're the first *decent* implementation of a GUI pointer I've ever used.
17:24 Seroster Anything fun going on live stream?
17:24 mikemol eightbitbrad: Yeah, running awesomewm on my Gentoo box.
17:25 * mikemol is gone
17:25 tesla4d But screens, whether you're using a mouse or a touchscreen, lack the tactile feedback that a keyboard does.
17:26 speedrunnerG55 Someone should reinvent themouse
17:26 SparkyStudio_ Seroster, Cory is just editing the vids, that's all
17:26 tesla4d speedrunnerG55, trackballs
17:26 Seroster I take that as a no =P
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17:26 EightBitBot Welcome back, boss
17:26 eightbitbrad BatSteve: Try .yt something on youtube :)
17:26 Seroster BAT!
17:26 Seroster Revive Bot!
17:27 Seroster And get rid of eightbitbot =P
17:27 Ponko92 he was watching top gear last night and as far as i could tell it was the brit version
17:27 eightbitbrad Seroster: what, EightBitBot not good enough for you?
17:27 BatSteve Seroster: don't want to cause conflicts with EightBitBot
17:27 BatSteve .yt leeroy jenkins
17:27 EightBitBot BatSteve: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkCNJRfSZBU
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17:27 JA12 about tablet computers.. are they good for graphical work? I mean, if I don't like the price tag on wacom pen tablet...
17:27 BatSteve awesome!
17:27 BatSteve eightbitbrad: what was I missing?
17:28 eightbitbrad standby for PM
17:28 Seroster then kill eightbitbot =P
17:28 JA12 :)
17:28 mman454-mobile eightbitbrad: yea what did I miss too
17:29 mman454-mobile eightbitbrad: what was I missing?
17:29 Ponko92 anyone here played BTTF the game
17:29 BatSteve mman454-mobile: we're talking about programming, not what you missed in channel
17:29 mman454-mobile ah
17:30 mman454-mobile batsteve: wheres botsteve?
17:30 BatSteve mman454-mobile: dead.  I burned out my DSL modem last night and just installed a new one
17:30 BatSteve he'll be back as soon as EightBitBot leaves
17:30 speedrunnerG55 O.O
17:30 mman454-mobile where can i send flowers?
17:31 speedrunnerG55 EightBitBot: Wasnt as good as botsteve
17:31 Ponko92 @BatSteve was that you last night doing the work on the colour burst?
17:31 * eightbitbrad cries
17:31 BatSteve Ponko92: no
17:31 eightbitbrad BotSteve didn't have youtube search :P
17:31 BatSteve That's true. EightBitBot is actually more advanced than BotSteve right now
17:31 speedrunnerG55 So
17:32 mman454-mobile for now...
17:32 eightbitbrad EightBitBot is BotSteve's test subject.
17:32 Ponko92 who was the guy with the Oscilliscope?
17:32 eightbitbrad I'm about to push the changes to BotSteve
17:32 mman454-mobile steve_____
17:32 speedrunnerG55 Who is eightbitbrad
17:32 BatSteve keeps the bots organized
17:32 speedrunnerG55 Voice?
17:33 Ponko92 who here is in Vehicular Science?
17:33 DruidicRiflema Verifyed
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17:33 Electronics not particularly
17:34 mman45454 what can eightbitbot do?
17:35 DruidicRiflema tggcory how long till the tesla coil vid is uploaded :(
17:35 DruidicRiflema tggcory Also what is the best way to get Audio for under 50 bucks
17:36 Electronics get a good mic =P
17:36 mman45454 drucidriflema: when cory stops watching videos instead of editing
17:36 speedrunnerG55 ^^^ i want an aurduino lol
17:36 BatSteve mman45454: everything BotSteve can do, and a bit more
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17:36 Electronics lol
17:36 Ponko92 bye cory
17:37 speedrunnerG55 Wow
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17:37 speedrunnerG55 I guess he was waching the irc?
17:37 speedrunnerG55 Hey maglinvinn
17:37 Electronics Hi
17:37 mman45454 CaptainBoden cory is being an asshole. :(
17:37 maglinvinn mornin guys
17:37 Electronics evening no? =P
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17:38 maglinvinn ay!  we get to watch cory!
17:38 Electronics he's the only one at the lab, or was
17:38 mman45454 is now known as mman454-mobile
17:38 speedrunnerG55 Corey needs to wach us
17:38 LeadHead Chris is shooting today
17:38 maglinvinn .....shiiiiiit    i'm gonna leave this on fullscreen all day.  haha.
17:38 mman454-mobile damn youre right
17:38 BatSteve really?
17:39 BatSteve .weather kgrr
17:39 speedrunnerG55 Or at least he should read our text
17:39 EightBitBot Cloudy, 41.0℉ (5℃), 29.68in (1002mb), Fresh breeze 21kt (↑) - KGRR 16:53Z
17:39 BatSteve CaptainBoden: Winds are 21 knots - it's a lousy day for shooting, what are you doing out?
17:39 speedrunnerG55 .weather fair lawn
17:39 EightBitBot Clear ☼, 53.6℉ (12℃), 29.69in (1002mb), Fresh breeze 18kt (↑) - KTEB 16:51Z
17:39 mman454-mobile push updates on botsteve
17:40 maglinvinn how do you tell it WHERE to look for weather info
17:40 speedrunnerG55 Good question. What is kteb
17:40 arran-g left #thegeekgroup
17:40 mman454-mobile the internets tells you wwhere to tell it
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17:41 maglinvinn the internet is a big place
17:41 maglinvinn whats the search term
17:41 maglinvinn lol.
17:41 maglinvinn you can even 'here let me google that for you' if you like
17:41 mman454-mobile speedrunner55: kteb is likley an airport code
17:41 MoxieMike is now known as MoxieMike-lunch
17:42 speedrunnerG55 Ah. ^ LOL
17:42 speedrunnerG55 url pleez
17:42 mman454-mobile is captainboden registered?
17:42 Yaotzin BatSteve: http://www.mirc.net/projects.php?go=1138067354
17:42 Electronics no idea
17:43 Electronics yes
17:43 Electronics captainboden is registered
17:43 * mman454-mobile is tempted to group captainboden to mman454
17:43 Electronics Registered : Apr 16 23:54:05 2011 (17 hours, 49 minutes, 13 seconds ago)
17:43 speedrunnerG55 I wonder what exactely does URL stand for
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17:44 speedrunnerG55 Registered?
17:44 Electronics ya
17:44 mman454-mobile electronics: how did you do that?
17:44 Electronics ./ns info captainboden
17:44 Electronics =P
17:44 mman454-mobile it protects you from others using your nick
17:44 Electronics bit of /ns help first and simples!
17:45 Yaotzin also you need to be regged to get .access in a room
17:45 speedrunnerG55 Im registered
17:45 mman454-mobile not true
17:45 speedrunnerG55 yes i am
17:45 Yaotzin Uh, for auto-op access?
17:45 tggcory joined #thegeekgroup
17:45 Yaotzin I'm talking about .accesslist
17:45 Electronics wb Cory
17:45 mman454-mobile depends how the ops have the room set up
17:45 tggcory Thanks
17:45 mman454-mobile ah
17:45 BatSteve Yaotzin: what this be?
17:45 tggcory Forgot about IRC, restarted the browser
17:46 speedrunnerG55 I was talking about freenode x_x
17:46 Yaotzin BatSteve: IRC Uno for the bot
17:46 Yaotzin fun stuff
17:46 speedrunnerG55 Oh coreys back. Wb
17:46 mman454-mobile tggcory Do somthing amazing for me and ill bring you a donought upon my next lab visit
17:47 tggcory I just scratched my head
17:47 tggcory AMAZING :3
17:47 BatSteve I AM AMAZED
17:47 mman454-mobile use /me scratches head
17:47 * mman454-mobile scratches head
17:48 BatSteve Yaotzin: sadly this is a mIRC script, not a python script.  it would take some work to get it ported
17:48 BatSteve want to help?
17:48 arran-g joined #thegeekgroup
17:48 Yaotzin I don't know the first thing about Python :(
17:49 eightbitbrad I could pull the mIRC script and see what we'd need to do to convert it.
17:49 mman454-mobile batsteve: what did that one guy get banned for again?
17:50 Electronics what guy?
17:50 BatSteve mman454-mobile: talking about hacking in the room and annoying CB
17:50 mman454-mobile it was a coupple nights ago
17:50 mman454-mobile we unbanned him
17:50 BatSteve Or actually, I believe talking about hacking THE room.
17:50 Electronics hmph
17:51 mman454-mobile well... batsteve unbanned him
17:51 eightbitbrad tggcory: How often are you running between machines?
17:51 tggcory A bit right now because I am trying to figure out how to set up a murmur server
17:52 Electronics .g Murmur
17:52 EightBitBot Electronics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murmur
17:52 Electronics useless
17:52 mman454-mobile tggcory: are we still using those 1 or 2TB segate drives for video storage?
17:52 eightbitbrad tggcory: Ah, okay.  Was going to suggest VNC or the like if it's a regular thing
17:52 tggcory We are
17:53 eightbitbrad oh cool
17:53 DruidicRiflema tggcory  do you know what Captan needed a video card with duel monitors for?
17:53 speedrunnerG55 Vnc?
17:53 * mman454-mobile facepalms
17:53 Electronics (I think that was at mman)
17:53 mman454-mobile electronics what was me?
17:53 speedrunnerG55 .wiki VNC
17:53 EightBitBot "In computing, Virtual Network Computing (VNC) is a graphical desktop sharing system that uses the RFB protocol to remotely control another computer." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VNC
17:53 DruidicRiflema Duel monitor ports*
17:53 Electronics [18:52] <tggcory> We are
17:53 Electronics that
17:53 mman454-mobile yea
17:54 tggcory No idea
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17:54 speedrunnerG55 Ohh. Like remote dektop?
17:54 DruidicRiflema I have my old cards just waiting for them to get back
17:54 DruidicRiflema 1 might be good from what they said
17:54 mman454-mobile oh shit what was it... we (ok, they) used it at the old lab to control the render servers?
17:55 mman454-mobile it was an open source VNC client
17:55 Electronics video searching time?
17:56 mashpriborintorg At work I use Teamviewer for helping remote users, it's quite handy
17:56 mman454-mobile nope, not that. i think its name started with a P
17:56 mashpriborintorg and no install required
17:57 eightbitbrad .yt
17:57 EightBitBot TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'NoneType' objects (file "/home/fubar/projects/tgg-BotSteve/modules/search.py", line 58, in yt)
17:57 maglinvinn agh   where is the hosts files in windows 7
17:57 mman454-mobile ?
17:57 maglinvinn someone anyone
17:57 cctoide RealVNC works pretty well...
17:57 Electronics hosts files?
17:57 cctoide not sure if there's still a free version thouhg
17:57 mman454-mobile brb im going to the internets... if you need me mention my nick
17:57 BatSteve .yt .yt
17:57 EightBitBot BatSteve: http://www.youtube.com/user/YT
17:58 BatSteve oh
17:58 mashpriborintorg search for hosts, it's deep inside the windows folder
17:58 Electronics %SystemRoot%\system32\drivers\etc\
17:59 Electronics acording to wikipedia
17:59 Electronics *according
17:59 mman454-mobile back
17:59 DruidicRiflema maglinvin what?
17:59 Electronics afkish, Minecraft time
18:00 DruidicRiflema i should log in
18:00 mman454-mobile any one know of a really good IRC client for android?
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18:01 Cprossu hey there tggconsole: what's new?
18:02 DruidicRiflema tggcory diner?
18:02 tggcory ?
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18:02 DruidicRiflema i thiught i heard someone saying something about the cafe
18:02 Cprossu nice! have you guys ever been to new mexico?
18:02 Cprossu on the highway to nowhere from AZ to alburquerque
18:03 Cprossu there's a dairy queen in the middle of nowhere
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18:03 Cprossu but you know about it
18:03 Cprossu 100 miles before you get to it
18:03 Cprossu because there's a billboard for it every 20 ft
18:03 DruidicRiflema Cprossu yeah but it's a great place people there need cold refrishing icecream
18:03 mman454-mobile botsteve: welcome back
18:03 Cprossu I wonder how they get anything to/from it
18:04 DruidicRiflema and since there is nothing else making people hungry will get them to stop
18:04 Cprossu there doesn't appear to be any power lines or anything
18:04 Cprossu it's just in the middle of fucking nowhere
18:04 DruidicRiflema Burried lines Generators?
18:05 BatSteve .yt physicsduck
18:05 BotSteve BatSteve: http://www.youtube.com/user/Physicsduck
18:05 BatSteve .yt
18:05 BotSteve BatSteve: Sorry, you need to enter a search term
18:05 eightbitbrad .yt yakkity sax
18:05 BotSteve eightbitbrad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ
18:05 mman454-mobile batsteve: your son is bitching at you... set him straight, slap him
18:06 Cprossu Giant lan (party)?! hah I have an 80 port 100mb bay networks switch I used to host them. The biggest one I've been to was 5000 people
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18:06 Cprossu it's been a long time though
18:06 * mman454-mobile 's jaw drops
18:07 mman454-mobile oh i thought you meant the biggest one you hosted
18:07 Cprossu .wa french millitary victories
18:07 BotSteve Couldn't grab results from json stringified precioussss.
18:07 * BatSteve tries to figure out what kind of addressing scheme you could use for a 5000 person lan
18:07 Cprossu we had everyone on vlans
18:07 BatSteve would that be 10.0.*
18:07 BatSteve ?
18:07 mman454-mobile vlans?
18:07 Cprossu 10.0 yeah
18:07 mman454-mobile .w vlan
18:07 BotSteve "A virtual local area network, virtual LAN or VLAN, is a group of hosts with a common set of requirements that communicate as if they were attached to the same broadcast domain, regardless of their physical location." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlan
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18:08 Cprossu 10.127.0 I think
18:08 Cprossu actually
18:08 mman454-mobile i still dont understand
18:08 Cprossu but either way
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18:08 Cprossu the point was we had a cisco 8000 router
18:09 compwiz878 the vlan deal sounds like whats setup at my place of work
18:09 Cprossu at the center of this mess
18:09 Cprossu and we had an OC12 too
18:09 mman454-mobile what were the specs of the server?
18:09 Cprossu we had many servers
18:09 Cprossu many many
18:09 Cprossu depended on the game though
18:10 compwiz878 there is amain server at the main  headquarters
18:10 mman454-mobile so there was no central server?
18:10 Cprossu but we had dual 3ghz xeons for the heavy hitting sytems
18:10 Cprossu no
18:10 mman454-mobile ah
18:10 Cprossu we had a DNS though
18:10 compwiz878 and a few other smaller servers at work
18:10 compwiz878 hmm
18:10 Cprossu but no central server
18:10 Cprossu we handled mostly everything through the cisco 8000
18:10 mman454-mobile why would you need a DNS for a lan party?
18:11 compwiz878 the main server was a an as/400
18:11 Cprossu because we had an OC12 and internet
18:11 Cprossu and it was nice
18:11 Cprossu we were running lots of fiber too
18:12 mman454-mobile OC12? you must understand im not on my computer, thus i cant research this stuff
18:12 Cprossu .w OC12
18:12 BotSteve "Optical Carrier transmission rates are a standardized set of specifications of transmission bandwidth for digital signals that can be carried on Synchronous Optical Networking (SONET) fiber optic networks." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OC12
18:12 Cprossu .g oc12 speed
18:12 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.infobahn.com/research-information.htm
18:13 Cprossu OC-12 - 622 megabits per second (4 OC3s)
18:13 * mman454-mobile grumbles to himself
18:13 compwiz878 hmmmm
18:13 mman454-mobile nice!
18:13 Cprossu 5k people = a lot of BW
18:14 Electronics and alot of power
18:14 Cprossu man let me tell you about the generators
18:14 Cprossu shittt
18:14 compwiz878 lol @ power
18:14 Cprossu we had several large ass CAT generators
18:14 Electronics how big?
18:15 Cprossu really big
18:15 Cprossu one was literally a semi trailer
18:15 SparkyProjects http://www.metacafe.com/watch/758916/europes_biggest_lan_party_the_campus_party_2007_valencia_spain/
18:15 SparkyProjects Was trying to find how many, the link in description mentions 5000 visitors
18:16 mman454-mobile is now known as mman454-away
18:16 MoxieMike-lunch is now known as MoxieMike
18:16 Cprossu this was back in '02 or '03
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18:17 Seroster lol
18:17 Seroster http://www.cracked.com/article_18683_7-scientific-reasons-zombie-outbreak-would-fail-quickly.html
18:17 * BatSteve has read that one and agrees with the #1 reason
18:17 Cprossu I know that the 'smaller' generator we had powering the central server section was 45KW though
18:18 compwiz878 thats pretty big assed genney lol;
18:18 tggKyle Tell me everything you love/hate about minecraft
18:18 SparkyProjects http://metku.net/index.html?path=articles/campus-party-europe/index_eng is the 2010 party,
18:18 SparkyProjects 6000 "nerds" playing computer games, talking about sciences, creating videos, music etc.
18:18 Cprossu it was pretty funny they dropped that one off without someone to tell us how to get it going
18:18 Cprossu that it's eye cancer and I can't play it
18:19 tggKyle >Eye Cancer
18:19 Cprossu and that I need to update my garrysmod server
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18:19 lwq1996 hello
18:20 Cprossu the textures
18:20 BatSteve lwq1996: welcome back.  Avoid talk about hacking this time please.
18:20 Cprossu yep
18:20 lwq1996 ok
18:20 Electronics I love MC
18:20 Cprossu still though, the textures re junk
18:20 Electronics and I'm playing it atm =P
18:20 lwq1996 so my ip is unblocked
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18:21 Cprossu I wonder if anyone has made a minecraft addon for garrysmod
18:21 Electronics lol
18:21 tggcory lwq, you don't give up , do you
18:21 cctoide well, it's hard to pump up the graphics when the world is made of blocks
18:21 tggKyle I know that there are skins for garrysmod
18:21 tggKyle Creeper/Steve (minecraft guy)
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18:21 tggKyle I few others, the blox (obviously)
18:22 lwq1996 i finally installed ubuntu on my dell
18:22 lwq1996 nop not really
18:22 compwiz878 lwq how do u like it ??
18:23 lwq1996 i like it but there is no place to check memory
18:23 compwiz878 hmm
18:23 lwq1996 its alot faster thant the regular windows 7 on it
18:23 Cprossu for those who want to know, my gmod server is now at 70.162.40.206
18:23 compwiz878 i downloaded a copy of it and am thinking about throwing another puter together and installing it
18:23 Cprossu :27015
18:24 Cprossu not too bad
18:24 Cprossu I can get through some chambers in 3
18:24 Cprossu seconds
18:24 compwiz878 im running outta harddrives lol
18:25 Cprossu there's a few bugs on some of the tougher ones, even to this day in the pc version
18:25 Cprossu and on the xbox version very fast speedruns are possible
18:25 lwq1996 haha i like it because i didnt have to deal with pardents or whatever just installed it but tryed it first on a juke computer and and tested if i like its and see if it was uninstallible if i ever needed to
18:25 Cprossu but I hate the xbox version =P
18:25 lwq1996 lol
18:26 Cprossu that's the loud tone
18:26 steve_____ Cprossu, thanks for the assistance checking the sync last night
18:26 Cprossu of death
18:26 BatSteve Cprossu would you like botsteve to track your gmod server?
18:26 Cprossu no problem steve_____!
18:26 BatSteve or was that just an aside comment?
18:26 steve_____ I'm not sure what changed but it just started working
18:26 lwq1996 did anyone of u see that portal 2 is coming out
18:26 Cprossu you should sent GVG a happy email
18:26 steve_____ I should
18:26 Cprossu I have no clue, but we should just smile and nod
18:27 Cprossu testing shit until it works is fine with me