Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-05-14

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00:01 Cprossu_Laptop .wa popilation Phoenix, AZ
00:01 BotSteve Phoenix, Arizona->city population;1.594 million people  (country rank: 5th)  (2009 estimate);4.364 million people  (Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ metro area), (2009 estimate);2.907 million people  (Phoenix-Mesa, AZ urban area), (2000 estimate);Glendale, Arizona->8 miles west-northwest->251522 people, Scottsdale, Arizona->11 miles east-northeast->235371 people, Chandler, Arizona->20 miles southeast->247140 people, Mesa,
00:01 Cprossu_Laptop .tfw 85020
00:01 BotSteve 100�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'POOOOOOOOOOOOL!'
00:01 Thiesen what radiostation is on the stream btw??? Why don't you route the sound from the scanner into the mixer??
00:01 Cprossu_Laptop .tfwc 85020
00:01 BotSteve 37�C?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'Time to crank the AC.'
00:02 Cprossu_Laptop first tripple digit in a little bit
00:02 Thiesen 37C... woah...
00:03 Thiesen here where I live it gets to about 22 degree C...
00:04 Cprossu_Laptop awww there's a sleeping kitty cat in my chair
00:05 Thiesen I want that scanner of yours to be routed into the mixer...
00:05 Cprossu_Laptop I wouldn't then I won't hear weird noises around the lab lol
00:06 Thiesen those creepy noices at night you mean??? :-)
00:06 Cprossu_KF7POU there's not that many aside from the hvac
00:07 Cprossu_KF7POU I think the hvac makes weird noises because it's ducting is....errr as batman once put it, 'a work of art'
00:07 Thiesen what's the difference between a Zomb and ordinary Paintball/air soft??
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00:21 NeWtoz where is a good place to buy ham radio gear?
00:21 Cprossu_KF7POU Thiesen: other than you don't get welts because they are nerf darts????
00:21 NeWtoz new
00:21 Cprossu_KF7POU speaking of new ham gear
00:21 NeWtoz it's not fun without war wounds
00:21 Cprossu_KF7POU I'll be back later
00:21 Cprossu_KF7POU I need to go look at overpriced crap
00:22 NeWtoz I want to do the same
00:22 Thiesen ah... ty for the clarification
00:22 Cprossu_KF7POU http://www.hamradio.com/
00:22 Cprossu_KF7POU see if there's one in your area
00:24 NeWtoz aww, nope
00:25 Cprossu_KF7POU well I am going to one bbl
00:25 Cprossu_KF7POU I hope it's still open
00:31 LeadHead Ashton Kutcher is replacing Charlie Sheen?
00:31 LeadHead THey're completely difference
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00:47 CSMonster hey punks
00:47 LeadHead What up, yo.
00:48 CSMonster http://failbook.failblog.org/2011/05/13/funny-facebook-fails-sex-is-like-golf/
00:50 speedrunnerG55 Hey people
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00:52 speedrunnerG55 Hey Toastdude
00:57 Python .tfw 85020
00:57 BotSteve 99�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'sweating my balls off'
00:57 Python .tfw 85
00:57 BotSteve 99�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Sun City, AZ!  'I need gloves to touch the steering wheel.'
00:58 CSMonster is my dear exor674 here?
00:58 exor674 yep
00:58 CSMonster yay!
00:58 * CSMonster hugs
00:59 speedrunnerG55 Lol
00:59 * exor674 hugs
01:00 * speedrunnerG55 steps away
01:00 CSMonster oh knock it off speed
01:00 Cprossu_KF7POU LeadHead: that's messed up
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01:01 Cprossu_KF7POU and I am really surprised that anyone was surprised with what kinda person charlie was...considering the character that was written for him
01:01 speedrunnerG55 What did LeadHead do
01:04 CSMonster is now known as CSM_passed_out
01:08 MoxieMike ok, time for me to go...see you guys later this weekend
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01:09 pegasus .tfw 18101
01:09 BotSteve 68�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Allentown, PA!  'It's that kind of day where you want zip off pants, until you realize how much of a jackass you look like in them.'
01:11 speedrunnerG55 .tfw 07410
01:12 BotSteve 62�F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Fair Lawn, NJ!  'Listen, weather. We need to have a talk.'
01:12 pegasus .tfw 95818
01:12 BotSteve 73�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Sacramento, CA!  'READ A FUCKIN' BOOK'
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01:13 speedrunnerG55 RTFB LOL
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01:15 critterpal oogah boogah
01:15 speedrunnerG55 hi critterpal
01:15 pegasus .tfw 49505
01:15 BotSteve 65�F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT AND WET IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'Better than a sharp stick in the eye.'
01:15 critterpal hiya!
01:15 speedrunnerG55 Stupid dog. You made me look bad
01:16 pegasus .tfw 49001
01:16 BotSteve 63�F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT AND WET IN Kalamazoo, MI!  'Listen, weather. We need to have a talk.'
01:17 speedrunnerG55 Whats up critterpal
01:17 critterpal I am so tired, I feel like my whole body is listing sideways
01:17 critterpal even though I am not moving
01:18 critterpal how about you?
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01:18 speedrunnerG55 Ohh. Im at pathmark
01:19 critterpal what is pathmark?
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01:21 speedrunnerG55 A supermarket
01:21 critterpal sounds like the name of a grocery store. but I didn't want to assume anything
01:23 speedrunnerG55 Ye. Ok
01:24 Seroster Anything fun going on
01:24 speedrunnerG55 I had a midterm today
01:25 speedrunnerG55 ....sadly a congergational church metting made me mis my first amatre radio club meeting
01:25 critterpal the stream still has that radio superimposed over the sound. can hear people in the MDH, but have to look at the street.
01:26 speedrunnerG55 Lol
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01:27 pegasus conversation i just had:
01:27 pegasus me: we should get a ceiling fan.
01:27 pegasus her: that's your job.
01:27 pegasus me: i can't do that.
01:27 pegasus her: why not?
01:27 pegasus me: i'm not spider man.
01:27 pegasus her: go get bit by a spider.
01:27 pegasus me: it has to be radioactive.
01:27 pegasus her: go to japan, and get bit by a spider.
01:27 pegasus me: now you're thinking.
01:28 speedrunnerG55 Wow
01:28 critterpal very cute
01:29 speedrunnerG55 I just thought. Godzilla may be possiple now
01:29 speedrunnerG55 Lol jk
01:30 pegasus spongebob lives in the same place.
01:30 pegasus fyi.
01:30 pegasus spongebob & godzilla: roommates
01:30 speedrunnerG55 Heheh
01:30 Thiesen I want to hear the police scanne in the stream...
01:30 Thiesen scanner*
01:30 critterpal anything but this radio show
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01:30 speedrunnerG55 LOL
01:31 cctoide` did Cory say anything about the iPhone video?
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01:31 Thiesen I listened to that radio a couple of days ago... the host was rude to say the least...
01:32 critterpal if it's alan coombs or whatever his name is...he is very rude. can't stand him
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01:32 Thiesen I have no idea since I live in Sweden... but the host where really rude to the callers...
01:33 critterpal seems they would have said his name at some point. I don' tknow...I turn down the volume before I rip out my hair
01:35 Thiesen please put the police scanner on the stream... or is it a police scanner?? since I have heard hams on it too I think
01:38 critterpal It seems most people at gg have become bored with responding to the stream...the rest are banned from master control.
01:40 speedrunnerG55 or..idk
01:40 speedrunnerG55 Roll call
01:41 * speedrunnerG55 here
01:41 Serostern is now known as Seroster
01:41 speedrunnerG55 Hi Seroster
01:41 Seroster Ahoy speed
01:44 Thiesen YAY... sound on the stream...
01:44 critterpal Interesting
01:44 Thiesen hehehe
01:44 jeremys wassup
01:44 critterpal there must be a microphone near the overhead door
01:44 critterpal funny
01:44 Sgt_Lemming iphone on thumper, I really REALLY want to see that one
01:45 exor674 speaking of stuff
01:46 exor674 I wonder if glass is conductive at some point
01:46 Sgt_Lemming it is
01:46 Sgt_Lemming molten glass is conductive
01:46 exor674 (I mean, I guess *everything's* conductive if you dump enough voltage/whatever into it
01:46 speedrunnerG55 Volyage
01:46 speedrunnerG55 Voltage
01:46 Sgt_Lemming or glass at least heated enough to be red hot
01:47 speedrunnerG55 It makea the electrons become free and cunduct
01:47 speedrunnerG55 Makes
01:47 * speedrunnerG55 turns iphone sidways
01:47 speedrunnerG55 Much better
01:47 Thiesen you can make most everything react in some way to a current... :-)
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01:49 speedrunnerG55 To a voltage*?
01:49 Thiesen nah... I doubt it...
01:49 speedrunnerG55 The responce is current. And w/e
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01:50 speedrunnerG55 Current then voltage : voltage then current= capacitor : inductor
01:51 speedrunnerG55 Eli the ice man
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01:52 speedrunnerG55 ...ELI the ICE man
01:53 * wannabe1987 is going to a PARTAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:53 wannabe1987 don'tcha wish you could come...
01:53 exor674 wannabe1987: have fun! party your pants off ( but not literally! )
01:54 wannabe1987 lol no pants off...plz keep them on...i'm a "clean" girl..
01:54 exor674 which is why I said not literally
01:54 speedrunnerG55 Aww
01:55 speedrunnerG55 Lol
01:55 speedrunnerG55 Ops i did mean it that way. I just read the first 2 messages
01:56 speedrunnerG55 Oops*
01:56 * speedrunnerG55 hides
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01:59 wannabe1987 speedrunnerG55 y r u hiding again?
02:00 speedrunnerG55 I miss spelt oops
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02:00 wannabe1987 but you corrected yourself :D
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02:08 Seroster Dodedo
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02:08 Seroster "Getting personalized recommendations is really easy, all you have to do is watch some videos then come back to this page to see what videos YouTube has recommended just for you!"
02:08 Seroster WTF
02:09 Seroster It should have a comprehensible selection to base it's recomendations on
02:09 Seroster I have watched an excess of 5000 vids
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02:09 Sgt_Lemming were you signed in when you watched them?
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02:10 Seroster Ofc
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02:10 pear14 u there toastdude?
02:11 Toastdude Yep
02:11 Toastdude Compooper problems....
02:11 pear14 okie dokie :)
02:11 pear14 hahaha compooper?
02:11 Toastdude Yep :) I'm a selfvocabularianist!!
02:12 pear14 you suuuure are
02:13 Seroster Selfvocabularianist! Sounds schiz0
02:14 mman454 is now known as mman454-xbox
02:15 Cprossu_KF7POU ughhh unhappy
02:15 Cprossu_KF7POU Toastdude: how can I help?
02:16 Cprossu_KF7POU anyone in here?
02:16 Seroster ydp
02:16 Seroster Yep*
02:16 Seroster But its damn late
02:17 Cprossu_KF7POU no kidding
02:17 Cprossu_KF7POU anything neat happen @ the lab?
02:17 Cprossu_KF7POU is cory still a slave to the his NLE comp?
02:17 Cprossu_KF7POU is it raining?
02:17 Cprossu_KF7POU also
02:17 Cprossu_KF7POU http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/ele/2379140937.html
02:17 Cprossu_KF7POU is this worth it?
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02:18 Toastdude Oh, sorry Cprossu_KF7POU
02:18 Toastdude Help with what?
02:19 CaptainBoden hey Guys, I have a present for you
02:19 Cprossu_KF7POU "[19:11] <Toastdude> Compooper problems...."
02:19 Cprossu_KF7POU I like presents!
02:19 CaptainBoden Can I trust you guys to keep a secret?
02:19 Cprossu_KF7POU *drumroll* I think so
02:19 Toastdude Yes
02:19 Cprossu_KF7POU however
02:20 Cprossu_KF7POU this channel does have
02:20 Cprossu_KF7POU a public log
02:20 Cprossu_KF7POU .log
02:20 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
02:20 Seroster How much do you want it, cprossu?
02:20 CaptainBoden Well, we have the rough edit of the iphone video done, it's not ready for prime time, but I thought the hardcore fans would like to see it.
02:20 CaptainBoden http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLx4QpolN4w check it out.
02:20 speedrunnerG55 Hi Toastdude
02:20 CaptainBoden The final edit will go out tomorrow
02:20 speedrunnerG55 Oh! *clicks*
02:21 Cprossu_KF7POU yeah, since this is gonna go viral
02:21 Toastdude Hi speedrunner!
02:21 Cprossu_KF7POU best to release it proper
02:21 Cprossu_KF7POU CaptainBoden: has cory been slaving on this all day?
02:21 Seroster Damn CaptainBoden
02:21 CaptainBoden No, he's working on DVD stuff
02:21 Toastdude Cprossu_KF7POU:  Oh, just that I was logged on a different computer, then when i tried to log on this one, it kinda crapped out on me....
02:22 Cprossu_KF7POU ahh, no big deal lol
02:23 speedrunnerG55 That happy face is awesome
02:23 Cprossu_KF7POU CaptainBoden: props for the killer explanation did you do it on one take?
02:23 CaptainBoden yes
02:24 CaptainBoden IT's not like we could do it in a second take, we only had one phone, lol
02:24 Sgt_Lemming oi CaptainBoden, thought of a good one to try on thumper :-D
02:24 CaptainBoden what
02:24 Sgt_Lemming a pencil
02:25 Cprossu_KF7POU flaming glowing graphite and wood shrapnel?
02:25 Cprossu_KF7POU best case scenario
02:25 Toastdude Hey CaptainBoden, pear14 is the weird friend of mine...
02:25 Cprossu_KF7POU that's in amazingly good shape
02:26 Seroster Too bad the iphone survived
02:26 Cprossu_KF7POU wait for it
02:26 Cprossu_KF7POU hahahaha
02:26 CaptainBoden pencil....I'll have to try that
02:26 Sgt_Lemming yeah
02:26 Sgt_Lemming sounds like it could be fun
02:27 Cprossu_KF7POU the drop at the end, priceless
02:27 Seroster Would be cool to see a flashlight in thumper too
02:27 Toastdude lol
02:27 Seroster Would the maglite that survived the 75kva survive Thumper?
02:27 Cprossu_KF7POU ooh I need to check on my package
02:27 Cprossu_KF7POU maglite is aluminum
02:28 Sgt_Lemming lithium battery would be impressive, but dangerous
02:28 Seroster Yes it is
02:28 Cprossu_KF7POU I would say it would be rather interesting
02:28 Toastdude Yes, quite dangerous....
02:28 Seroster Sgt_Lemming, unlike a couple million watts? =P
02:28 Cprossu_KF7POU they were hoping the batt in the iphone would 'splode
02:28 Cprossu_KF7POU but it didn't
02:28 Sgt_Lemming Seroster, lithium would be a couple of billion watts
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02:29 Sgt_Lemming as the lithium turns into hyrdogen and then BURNS
02:29 Cprossu_KF7POU CaptainBoden: thank you for the rough edit, it was sure fun
02:29 Cprossu_KF7POU if cory needs any nagging let us know
02:30 Cprossu_KF7POU any other hams on tonight? I'm trying to decide on my first rig
02:31 NeWtoz I'd be interested too, because I want to get my first rig
02:31 Cprossu_KF7POU This is damn tempting -> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/ele/2379140937.html for all the anguish and hardship I'll face getting it all running correctly
02:31 NeWtoz other then my handheld
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02:32 Cprossu_KF7POU I see AM 1230 is still coming in loud and clear
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02:34 Seroster We should make a TGG pipe organ
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02:35 NeWtoz I'm not up for something that could be loud
02:35 Sgt_Lemming Seroster, with electric arc resonators in the bottom of each one
02:35 Seroster Or a pipe organ
02:35 Seroster Like the drumset, something you can't have in your apartment but still is fun to play
02:35 Sgt_Lemming heh
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02:36 Cprossu_KF7POU CaptainBoden: thanks again.
02:36 speedrunnerG55 Reds photo Ftw
02:36 CaptainBoden You're quite welcome :)
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02:37 Cprossu_KF7POU CaptainBoden: your thoughts on how much hair pulling this would cause me: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/ele/2379140937.html
02:37 Sgt_Lemming CaptainBoden, thin walled copper pipe could be interesting as well
02:38 CaptainBoden no idea on that one, it's an old set
02:38 ValveBoy Hi all
02:38 Sgt_Lemming I mean on thumper
02:39 Cprossu_KF7POU I have a feeling that I will use really old stuff or echolink and no inbetween
02:39 Cprossu_KF7POU at least to start
02:39 Seroster Sgt_Lemming, I think I speak for most of us when I say that anything on thumper is interesting =P
02:40 Sgt_Lemming Seroster, some things are more interesting than others though
02:40 speedrunnerG55 So when are those omg capacitors going to be used
02:40 Seroster True that
02:41 Sgt_Lemming wooden pencil, mechanical pencil lead, should be cool
02:42 ValveBoy wow this actually works on my iPhone, I was thinking it wouldn't scroll properly.
02:42 speedrunnerG55 A rail gun should be cool.
02:42 Sgt_Lemming rail gun is quite difficult to make well speedrunnerG55
02:44 speedrunnerG55 I wonder how manny cans thumper can eat at once
02:44 BatSteve-Away is now known as BatSteve
02:44 Seroster One?
02:44 BatSteve word
02:44 Seroster It fits when you put... ONE in it =P
02:45 masterofmonks Void.
02:45 BatSteve in order:  speedrunnerG55:  "Through the fire and the flames" was done by DragonForce
02:45 Seroster And it depends if the cans are in series or paralell =P
02:45 BatSteve ValveBoy: Try Python 2 instead of Python 3
02:45 speedrunnerG55 Oh wow
02:46 Thiesen 140MW... where do you get the power for Thumper?? Don't say you charge it from an ordinary outlet? It could be done but it would be time consuming I think to charge it that way...
02:46 BatSteve Seroster: Your BotSteve greet is now on a random basis.
02:46 Sgt_Lemming when I eventually get my ass over there, I am so definitely doing a full can on thumper :-P
02:46 Seroster Yay BatSteve =D
02:46 Sgt_Lemming cause I'll gladly clean up just to see that
02:46 speedrunnerG55 Seroster: In parallel
02:46 BatSteve "Sometime soon" he'll be able to insult you in the middle of conversation as well.
02:47 Sgt_Lemming speedrunnerG55, quite a few as well
02:47 Seroster Would be interesting to see 5cans in series OR paralell, both in the same video, to show the difference
02:47 Seroster BatSteve, Your concern for my displeasure is touching =D
02:47 BatSteve it's how you know I love you
02:47 BatSteve :]
02:48 Thiesen I want to see a solid block of metal on the J-hooks in Thumper...
02:48 ValveBoy @batsteve I got it to run, now I think we have a power problem with the motors
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02:48 BatSteve Ah.  Can't help you there.
02:48 BatSteve sorry
02:48 CSM_passed_out omagah
02:49 CSM_passed_out is now known as CSMonster
02:49 speedrunnerG55 Hi CSMonster
02:49 CSMonster hi.
02:49 speedrunnerG55 WB
02:50 CSMonster i feel like someone tore out all my internal organs and replaced them with a diesel engine
02:50 speedrunnerG55 Is that a good thing?
02:50 CSMonster no
02:50 CSMonster definitely not
02:51 speedrunnerG55 Ok. So you ment literally
02:51 CSMonster batsteve
02:51 CSMonster yes
02:52 BatSteve yes?
02:52 BatSteve wait
02:52 BatSteve hello.  yes.
02:52 CSMonster hi
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02:52 CSMonster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLsFcwxcmHE
02:52 BatSteve hi!  ::click::
02:54 Toastdude HI CSMonster!!
02:54 exor674 CSMonster: aw :( feel better?
02:54 CSMonster hi cruton
02:54 CSMonster exor674: i will.  i think.
02:54 Cprossu_KF7POU looks like I am gonna call in my favor trying to get the old drake instead
02:54 CSMonster a string of somewhat unhealthy events lined up back to back made my body very angry
02:55 exor674 CSMonster: bodies tend to be very vengeful when they are angry
02:55 BatSteve CSMonster: is the video important or only the sonng?
02:55 BatSteve *song
02:55 CSMonster well..... either unhealthy or too intensive for my body to want to deal with after said unhealthy things
02:55 CSMonster only the song.  i like it
02:55 CSMonster the video is kind of.... odd.
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02:57 CSMonster large bowl of ice cream -> only 4 hours sleep -> cleaning clock parts with some kind of cleaning solution that didn't come with a MSDS or any explanation on what's in it, just "don't get it on your skin, clothes, or mucus membranes" and it smelled BAD -> waiting in the counselors office at school for three hours -> walking 5 miles -> X_X
02:58 Toastdude I'm going to sleep, goodnight!!
02:59 CSMonster bye
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02:59 speedrunnerG55 That link was cool
03:00 CSMonster the walk was actually fine, it made me feel a little better but completely exhausted
03:00 speedrunnerG55 Nevermind
03:00 CSMonster so i went from feeling really bad to feeling kind of bad and f'ing tired
03:00 BatSteve CSMonster: don't go to bed yet.  I have a link for you.
03:00 CSMonster not going anywhere until at least 10
03:00 CSMonster (2 hours)
03:02 BatSteve stand by for PM
03:06 BatSteve PM deployed
03:06 BatSteve ...stand by for smooth jazz
03:06 BatSteve .yt smooth jazz
03:06 BotSteve BatSteve: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4xy-wxc1Y0
03:06 CSMonster lol
03:06 BatSteve smooth jazz deployed
03:10 CSMonster http://youtu.be/Vm31xBjfMNY
03:11 CSMonster ^ tobaccat
03:11 speedrunnerG55 LOL BatSteve
03:12 jeremys .yt bed time
03:12 BotSteve jeremys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9nVU-tLfjs
03:14 Cprossu_KF7POU Tungstun would be fun on thumper too
03:14 Cprossu_KF7POU especially a nice thick piece
03:15 Seroster Pft
03:15 Seroster Goodnight folks
03:15 CSMonster i am made entirely of tungsten
03:15 CSMonster night seroscandie
03:15 Cprossu_KF7POU night Seroster, try not to poke yourself in the eye with a spork
03:15 Seroster Seroscandie?
03:15 Cprossu_KF7POU I'm serious!!!11oneone
03:15 Seroster And I don't own a spork I eat with my swizz army knife
03:16 CSMonster scandie = scandinavian because i'm too lazy to say or type the whole word
03:16 Seroster Candie! Rawr! omnomnomnom
03:16 Seroster Aight. Nite.
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03:16 CSMonster hah
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03:19 CSMonster uuuuuuuuuugh coldflash  ><
03:22 speedrunnerG55 Wannabe here?
03:23 speedrunnerG55 And Whats up BatSteve
03:23 BatSteve miiiiiiiinecraft
03:23 speedrunnerG55 I have a server
03:23 speedrunnerG55 No mods
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03:25 BatSteve I don't really need another server
03:25 BatSteve but thanks
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03:25 BotSteve ****Attention on deck!  Captain on the bridge!****
03:26 * CSMonster salutes
03:26 speedrunnerG55 WB
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03:31 CSMonster http://www.walkinginsquares.com/comics/wis_UShistory.png
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03:37 speedrunnerG55 Hi BotSteve
03:37 BotSteve Hey speedrunnerG55!
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03:40 CSMonster botsteve: should i set speedrunner's hair on fire?
03:40 BotSteve Oh yeah!
03:41 BatSteve best bot of all
03:41 CSMonster lol
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03:44 Cprossu_KF7POU speedrunnerG55: if disconnecting was an olympic sport, you'd have gold
03:44 speedrunnerG55__ lol
03:44 speedrunnerG55__ Now i have a tail
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03:46 speedrunnerG55 There
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03:53 CSMonster red
03:54 REDhome yes love?
03:55 CSMonster HI
03:55 REDhome hi ther.
03:55 CSMonster how are ya?
03:56 REDhome sleepy. and yourself?
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03:56 CSMonster ..........it's been a day.  i should probably leave it at that
03:56 CSMonster but i'm okay
03:56 CSMonster just tired
03:56 CSMonster and chills
03:58 speedrunnerG55 Hi
03:59 speedrunnerG55 BotSteve: Should i stop disconnecting?
03:59 BotSteve Maybe
04:00 REDhome :\
04:01 REDhome Hope everything gets better, dear.
04:01 CSMonster nah, it's good.  i got to see some old friends i haven't seen in over a year
04:01 exor674 shiny
04:02 REDhome :)
04:02 speedrunnerG55 Hi red
04:02 Cprossu_KF7POU BotSteve: Will speedrunnerG55 still disconnect excessively despite best efforts not to?
04:02 Cprossu_KF7POU damn
04:02 BatSteve "will" is not yet implemented
04:03 BatSteve try "should"
04:03 REDhome hi :)
04:03 Cprossu_KF7POU BotSteve: Should speedrunnerG55's best efforts not to disconnect continuously despite best efforts not to bear any fruit?
04:03 BotSteve Oh yeah!
04:04 Cprossu_KF7POU keep trying speedrunnerG55!
04:04 speedrunnerG55 Ok
04:04 Cprossu_KF7POU the kool aid guy said so
04:04 CSMonster OOOOOH YEEEEEEEEEAH
04:04 Cprossu_KF7POU soooo
04:05 speedrunnerG55 Im on 3g and im plugged in. So. No issues
04:05 Cprossu_KF7POU they are going to put polyester sheets around one of the doomed reactors
04:05 Cprossu_KF7POU o_O
04:05 Cprossu_KF7POU how the fuck is that gonna help
04:05 speedrunnerG55 I was having problem with wifi and loss of battery charge
04:06 speedrunnerG55 Polyester?
04:06 speedrunnerG55 .wiki pollyester
04:06 BotSteve "Sonja Ball (born October 20, 1956) is a Canadian voice actress." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonja_Ball
04:06 Cprossu_KF7POU .wiki polyester
04:06 BotSteve "Polyester is a category of polymers which contain the ester functional group in their main chain." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyester
04:07 Cprossu_KF7POU as in plastic sheets
04:07 Cprossu_KF7POU flamable plastic sheets =/
04:07 speedrunnerG55 . To stop air contamination?
04:07 Cprossu_KF7POU well it's kinda late for that don't you think?
04:07 speedrunnerG55 ...ye
04:08 speedrunnerG55 I havt herd much from japan laitley. Whats up
04:08 speedrunnerG55 Other than that
04:08 Cprossu_KF7POU well reactor 1 has fuel in the bottom of it's RPV
04:08 Cprossu_KF7POU with holes in it suspected at the bottom
04:08 Cprossu_KF7POU aka meltdown
04:08 speedrunnerG55 Not good
04:09 Cprossu_KF7POU and one worker in his 60's died
04:09 Cprossu_KF7POU for reasons unknown
04:09 BatSteve (he knew too much)
04:10 CSMonster (he was actually an israeli commando)
04:10 Cprossu_KF7POU so they are planning on filling the containment with water
04:10 Cprossu_KF7POU just to the fuel level and no more
04:10 BatSteve (he loved orange soda)
04:10 Cprossu_KF7POU in reactor 2, they can't do that
04:10 Cprossu_KF7POU because containment was breeched
04:10 Cprossu_KF7POU by the hydrogen explosion
04:11 Cprossu_KF7POU and reactors 1 and 3 both have leak paths of nasty shit into the ocean once again
04:11 speedrunnerG55 :(
04:12 Cprossu_KF7POU I think that's all for now
04:12 Cprossu_KF7POU http://cryptome.org/eyeball/daiichi-npp15/pict3.jpg
04:12 Cprossu_KF7POU ^ this is not how a 'dry' wiring pit should look
04:13 CSMonster ......
04:13 CSMonster i don't see any dry in that picture
04:13 BatSteve looks *fine* to me!
04:13 Cprossu_KF7POU take a drink!
04:14 Cprossu_KF7POU the bacteria won't have a chance at least
04:14 speedrunnerG55 Take a swim^*
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04:14 speedrunnerG55 red how was portal 2
04:15 REDhome fun, of course.
04:15 REDhome :)
04:16 Cprossu_KF7POU did you complete the single player?
04:16 REDhome no, i was just messin around. not playin for realz.
04:16 Cprossu_KF7POU kk
04:16 Cprossu_KF7POU you'll enjoy
04:16 REDhome too tired to play for reals, lolz.
04:17 speedrunnerG55 Did you co-op?
04:17 Cprossu_KF7POU what platform are you on REDhome?
04:17 REDhome mac.
04:17 Cprossu_KF7POU cool
04:17 BatSteve co-op > single player in terms of puzzles
04:17 BatSteve just saying
04:17 speedrunnerG55 Yes. Verry
04:17 speedrunnerG55 I did it once
04:17 Cprossu_KF7POU single player had a damn good story though
04:17 BatSteve single > co-op in terms of story
04:17 BatSteve yeah
04:17 speedrunnerG55 Cave johnson FTW
04:18 REDhome :)
04:18 BatSteve .yt investment opportunity 4 boots
04:18 BotSteve BatSteve: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX9Sc88qreg
04:18 speedrunnerG55 :d
04:19 speedrunnerG55 :D try to get near that baby hehe your funeral
04:21 speedrunnerG55 So when will half life 3 ever come out :3
04:22 REDhome :) love that line.
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04:24 Cprossu_KF7POU 65% more bullet per bullet
04:24 REDhome Hey Obtuse, dear :)
04:24 Cprossu_KF7POU we fire the WHOLE BULLET!
04:24 Cprossu_KF7POU xD
04:24 BatSteve here at Aperture we shoot the whole bullet!
04:24 speedrunnerG55 Hey obtusemobile
04:24 obtusemobile hello
04:24 CSMonster 60% more bullet per bullet?
04:24 REDhome THE WHOLE BULLET.?
04:24 Cprossu_KF7POU 65%!
04:25 REDhome How to we fit so many bullets? like this!
04:25 obtusemobile hey red and speedrunner
04:25 Cprossu_KF7POU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TeTd0cAGEk
04:25 Cprossu_KF7POU wow there's even a cute spoiler in there
04:26 speedrunnerG55 Spoiler?
04:26 BatSteve Cprossu_KF7POU: what was the spoiler?
04:26 BatSteve (in PM please)
04:27 REDhome Tha'ts not a panel, that's a crusher...we sell them too.
04:27 speedrunnerG55 Pm me too?
04:27 BatSteve (:
04:27 Cprossu_KF7POU so many of you
04:27 speedrunnerG55 Lol
04:29 obtusemobile watching roomies play rockband. i find the game obnoxious
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04:29 BotSteve Welcome back, boss.
04:30 obtusemobile lol. boss.
04:31 BatSteve hey, I pay his electric bill, I get to set his "respect" variable wherever I want
04:31 obtusemobile nice
04:32 speedrunnerG55 is now known as speed-shower
04:36 obtusemobile what is new at the lab?
04:37 obtusemobile i saw those big ass transformers. hot
04:37 * BatSteve has to get up in 8 hours and hasn't had a full night's sleep in twelve times that number
04:37 BatSteve goodnight all
04:37 obtusemobile night batsteve
04:37 BatSteve CSMonster: easter eggs will be implemented real soon now, possibly tomorrow
04:37 CSMonster night batsteve
04:38 BatSteve g'night!
04:38 CSMonster LOL, okay, cool :) thanks
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04:40 * REDhome is heading off to sleep and wishes all of you a wonderous night and sweet dreams.
04:40 CSMonster night Red
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05:02 BotSteve At last!  My only friend!
05:02 speedrunnerG55 :D
05:03 speedrunnerG55 hi botsteve
05:03 BotSteve Hi speedrunnerG55!
05:04 speedrunnerG55 hears loud people talking outside
05:04 speedrunnerG55 "/me"^
05:07 speedrunnerG55 why is it so quiet?
05:07 tesla4d RAAAAAAAAWR
05:07 speedrunnerG55 lol
05:10 obtusemobile i need android phone stands for watching youtube and netflix
05:10 obtusemobile must build
05:11 speedrunnerG55 can the cnc machine work with metal? or just wood
05:13 speedrunnerG55 make a case / stand
05:14 speedrunnerG55 out of solid aluminum, make the stand like the evo
05:14 CSMonster speedrunnerG55, i'd be sincerely worried if it couldn't do aluminium
05:20 speedrunnerG55 make it so its locked in place with an acylic screen protector or something
05:20 speedrunnerG55 acrylic
05:24 obtusemobile ooo. it would be awesome to make something with aluminum.
05:24 speedrunnerG55 like apple
05:24 obtusemobile been a long time since i did that.
05:25 speedrunnerG55 its been a long time since you made stuff aout of aluminum?
05:25 speedrunnerG55 with a cnc?
05:27 speedrunnerG55 its too quiet in here
05:28 * CSMonster is writing
05:29 exor674 ooh?
05:30 * CSMonster is writing about guns
05:30 * CSMonster stuff others probably won't much care about.  and if they do, they can wait for the post to go up tomorrow
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05:31 * speedrunnerG55 should really go on the forum more often
05:31 * exor674 probably doesn't care but will read it anyway >_>
05:32 * speedrunnerG55 looks at everybody doing stuff via "/me"
05:32 * speedrunnerG55 laughs
05:33 * CSMonster sets speedrunnerG55's hair on fire
05:33 * speedrunnerG55 rives in pain
05:33 CSMonster the bot told me to do it.
05:33 * speedrunnerG55 gets a bucket of water
05:34 * speedrunnerG55 says evil bot
05:34 speedrunnerG55 botsteve has no mortality core
05:34 CSMonster hah
05:34 CSMonster nope.
05:35 speedrunnerG55 morality*
05:35 * speedrunnerG55 has no grammer core
05:35 CSMonster but he'll be getting an ego core soon.   that's just as good right?
05:35 CSMonster got that right...
05:36 speedrunnerG55 i wana go to space
05:36 CSMonster speedrunnerG55 has no *grammar* core.   or vocabulary database.
05:36 exor674 s
05:36 exor674 spaaaaaace!
05:36 CSMonster .trope recycled in space
05:36 BotSteve CSMonster: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitlekt6mtovm4vne
05:36 Sgt_Lemming or intelligence core :-P
05:38 CSMonster most of my cores are related to weaponization.  that's probably not a great thing.
05:38 CSMonster alas, i am also out of awake-person-fuel
05:38 * CSMonster hugs exor674 and disappears into the night
05:38 speedrunnerG55 night
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05:54 speedrunnerG55 hey obtuce
05:57 speedrunnerG55 hey obtusemobile
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05:58 * speedrunnerG55 waits for hoedown toappear
06:19 wannabe1987 wait, what?
06:19 * wannabe1987 is home now, speedrunnerG55
06:19 speedrunnerG55 oh hi there
06:20 wannabe1987 PARTy was good...
06:20 speedrunnerG55 cool
06:22 speedrunnerG55 what was it for?
06:22 wannabe1987 hanging out?
06:22 speedrunnerG55 ifi may ask
06:22 speedrunnerG55 oh.
06:23 speedrunnerG55 so it was more of a social gathering?
06:23 wannabe1987 6 people gathered for talking, eating, and a little bit of alcohol imbibing...
06:24 speedrunnerG55 imbibing?
06:24 speedrunnerG55 .wiki imbibing
06:24 BotSteve "Imbibition is defined as the displacement of one fluid by another immiscible fluid." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imbibition
06:25 speedrunnerG55 ahh mixing
06:25 wannabe1987 rum/whiskey and coke/dr pepper...
06:26 Cprossu_Laptop good night all
06:26 speedrunnerG55 night
06:26 wannabe1987 night laptop!
06:26 * Cprossu_Laptop thinks that BotSteve should get the space core xD
06:26 speedrunnerG55 :D
06:28 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: PROCRASTINATOR on HELP! PLZ check my CAP BANK math....
06:29 speedrunnerG55 cap bank math?
06:30 wannabe1987 http://www.break.com/pictures/why-so-curious-2058318
06:30 * speedrunnerG55 clicks
06:31 speedrunnerG55 ...LOL
06:34 speedrunnerG55 .yt internet wariors
06:34 wannabe1987 :)
06:34 BotSteve speedrunnerG55: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0BQ0p-mtKg
06:34 speedrunnerG55 did i spell that right?
06:35 wannabe1987 warriors*
06:35 speedrunnerG55 .yt internet warriors
06:35 BotSteve speedrunnerG55: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdqss2GvU5M
06:37 speedrunnerG55 i have to go to bed, bye everyone
06:42 wannabe1987 night
06:42 speedrunnerG55 night
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06:57 wannabe1987 hi IIsi50MHz
06:59 IIsi50MHz Salut, wannabe1987. �ava?
06:59 wannabe1987 cava?
06:59 exor674 ... I totally read that as "slut"... i think it's time for bed
07:00 Sgt_Lemming Ca Va
07:00 wannabe1987 lol awww exor674 :(
07:00 Sgt_Lemming it's not one word IIsi50MHz
07:00 exor674 wannabe1987 isn't a slut!
07:00 * IIsi50MHz pats exor674, offers a pillow
07:00 IIsi50MHz Sgt, what language?
07:00 exor674 I still need to stick something in my mough
07:00 * wannabe1987 gives blanket
07:00 Sgt_Lemming French
07:00 wannabe1987 exor674...
07:00 wannabe1987 that sounded...dirty
07:00 exor674 like food!
07:00 exor674 I meant food!
07:01 wannabe1987 ooo ok
07:01 wannabe1987 right...
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07:06 IIsi50MHz Sgt, thanks.
07:07 wannabe1987 LeadHead hi
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07:07 wannabe1987 lol
07:08 IIsi50MHz Osoi
07:08 IIsi50MHz Also, that's a lot of seconds.
07:09 wannabe1987 lol yep
07:09 Sgt_Lemming http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Aluminium-Round-Bar-50-dia-x-250-mm-6262-T6-OG-/220780603742?pt=AU_Supplies&amp;hash=item33678ca95e <--- do want!
07:10 wannabe1987 what for?
07:10 Sgt_Lemming working on our lathe
07:10 wannabe1987 ooo
07:13 Sgt_Lemming http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MT2-6pc-INTERCHANGEABLE-TIP-MEDIUM-DUTY-LIVE-CENTER-KIT-/350459838677?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&amp;hash=item519908c0d5 <--- need that!
07:13 IIsi50MHz My 7th form school made its own aluminium products from waste beverage cans.
07:13 wannabe1987 ooo
07:14 IIsi50MHz But they were sand-cast.
07:14 wannabe1987 http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll4aqrYuUy1qgn99t.jpg  o god!
07:15 IIsi50MHz Friday 13 is only unlucky if you're a Templar knight (:
07:20 wannabe1987 a what?
07:20 Sgt_Lemming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templar_knight
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07:36 wannabe1987 you is supposed to be asleep, sir
07:36 Sgt_Lemming wow
07:36 exor674 mmmmmm pork
07:37 Sgt_Lemming 2 ton cast iron marking out tabe
07:37 Sgt_Lemming table
07:37 Sgt_Lemming DO WANT!
07:37 exor674 my pork!
07:37 wannabe1987 BACON!
07:37 * wannabe1987 steals exor674's bacon
07:37 exor674 ribs :P
07:38 wannabe1987 you may have them.  i'm still stealing bacon
07:39 Sgt_Lemming http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqEOKjkE1rVLqDqtBNl9Iw6Ucw~~_3.JPG <--- that's one hell of a lump of cast iron.
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07:40 wannabe1987 lol fail
07:43 Sgt_Lemming ...?
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07:55 Quick Anyone in here?
07:55 Quick Ahoy.
07:56 wannabe1987 no
07:56 wannabe1987 why are you still awake, quick?
07:57 Quick The guy we're staying with in Hamtramck has a huge CD library.
07:57 Quick I'm just sitting around ripping them.
07:57 wannabe1987 eastside of the state?
07:58 Quick Yeap.
07:58 Quick We played a show at The Painted Lady here tonight.
07:58 wannabe1987 cool
07:58 Quick The venue was in Hamtramck, the house is actually in Grosse Point.
07:59 wannabe1987 ahhh
07:59 * exor674 hugs wannabe1987 and goes to bed ( I promse I'm really gonna do it this time! )
07:59 wannabe1987 lol night dear
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08:07 kristopher ola
08:07 Quick Hi.
08:08 Quick I was just about to say "It's getting lonely in here."
08:08 kristopher lol
08:10 Quick Where are you located?
08:16 wannabe1987 lol i'm going to bed..its 4:15a
08:19 Quick Meh
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08:24 kristopher sory watchin vids i'm in america
08:24 kristopher lol i mean australia
08:24 kristopher http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLJuKCbqWpU
08:25 kristopher http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZy1PMkxgk
08:25 kristopher http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZy1PMkxgk
08:26 kristopher we need one of these things
08:26 kristopher at tgg
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09:53 MadManMarkAu http://img.lulz.net/src/227721_10150189670889681_738479680_6991603_7524340_n.jpg <-- So much win!
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09:55 * genshou slaps masterofmonks around a bit with a large trout
10:01 IIsi50MHz Hey, Genshou
10:02 * IIsi50MHz stirs masterofmonks, who claims to never be away
10:02 * IIsi50MHz seeks some drink other than water
10:02 genshou hmm.
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10:11 MadManMarkAu Oh dear, TGG stream lists 666 views...
10:11 Sasha :p
10:11 Sasha I'll be the 667th then
10:12 genshou Oh fine then, I'll pester MoM another day.
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10:12 IIsi50MHz Yeah, he thinks he dusn lurk.
10:13 IIsi50MHz Anyone played PaperPlane, by a student group at ENJMIN?
10:13 IIsi50MHz I'm looking for something similar
10:14 IIsi50MHz Since I pretty much beat it.
10:14 IIsi50MHz I could keep getting better at flight controls...but there's nothing more to reveal in-game
10:25 Sgt_Lemming IIsi50MHz there is an old mac game called glider pro
10:25 Sgt_Lemming you play a paper plane trying to navigate a house
10:25 IIsi50MHz Yeah, I remember that.
10:27 IIsi50MHz It's free now, too.
10:32 Sasha Anyone know how long post takes over at tgg?
10:47 Sasha Like anyone here?
10:49 IIsi50MHz Sorry, cannot parse.
10:50 IIsi50MHz Post-production? A post? Posting? Something else?
10:51 IIsi50MHz Ambiguous.
10:51 Sasha Post production, what else :P
10:52 IIsi50MHz Actually, I only threw in post-production because I've heard IRC rumours of some kind of media development at the real TGG.
10:53 Sasha What sort of media development? Haven't heard of this.
10:53 IIsi50MHz That is, making of media stuff.
10:54 Sasha Well, haven't they already been making YT videos for like ever?
10:54 IIsi50MHz I never heard of them until a month or two after the live stream went up.
10:54 Hackbat Derp
10:54 IIsi50MHz and I still haven't seen the live stream
10:54 Hackbat I forgot I go to a green college now
10:55 Hackbat been waiting for my grades to come in the mail
10:55 Sasha How come you haven't seen it?
10:55 Hackbat then I remembered it's all online
10:56 IIsi50MHz I started coming here when there were hardly any lurkers and the most common things you saw in the chat window were some user asking the bot ".minecraft", and the bot's response about the current server.
10:56 Sasha LOL... I found tgg through their awesome youtube videos, have been following ever since!
10:57 IIsi50MHz I was invited by someone I know from another IRC server.
10:57 IIsi50MHz Then after a few months the live stream went up and BAM! Lots of users.
10:57 * Hackbat found out through  Hak5
10:57 Hackbat well they had a REASON to get on here
10:57 IIsi50MHz So some people got opped.
10:57 Sasha Yeah, that is how I got here
10:58 Hackbat I mean the IRC had nearly NO connection to the actual going ons before the livestream
10:58 * Hackbat has his grades
10:58 Sasha But there is like nothing on the livestream now
10:58 Hackbat I had a B in physics
10:58 IIsi50MHz Yeah, which is why I have nearly no connection to TGG.
10:59 Hackbat and a C in Electronic circuits
10:59 Hackbat But, I passed
10:59 Hackbat so...good enough
10:59 IIsi50MHz Well, that and the fact that since the live stream most of the chat is about somebody's latest tube oscilloscope or the specifics of some obscure chip with certain markings.
10:59 IIsi50MHz I'm not much into hardward. (:
10:59 IIsi50MHz -d+e
11:00 Sasha Whatcha into then
11:00 IIsi50MHz Software.
11:01 Sasha Such as...
11:01 Hackbat http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10553 WANT
11:01 Sgt_Lemming we have 3 of them
11:02 Hackbat Hate D:<
11:02 IIsi50MHz Most recently... Haiku and BeOS driver programming, Chrome browser extensions, CSS, HTML5
11:02 Sgt_Lemming and their SMD rework station Hackbat
11:02 * Hackbat throws a childish hissy fit
11:02 Hackbat D:
11:02 Sasha IIsi50MHZ have no idea what those first two things were :P
11:03 * Sgt_Lemming hides the desoldering station
11:03 IIsi50MHz Sasha, that's strangely pacifying.
11:03 Sasha Sgt_Lemming darn, I have a 3$ 20w soldering iron...
11:03 * Hackbat is stuck with the super delux Radioshack DUAL POWER soldering iron
11:03 Sgt_Lemming Sasha, this is in the hackerspace, not mine perosnally
11:03 Hackbat using the magic of a switch and a diode!
11:03 IIsi50MHz Most of the time when I'm checking to make sure everyone's behaving in here, I don't know what the various electronics bits they mention are.
11:04 Hackbat that they don't mae tips for!
11:04 Hackbat luckly since I cracked the fucker open
11:04 * Sgt_Lemming hands IIsi50MHz an EPFCG
11:04 Sasha Oh... BTW, I'd still love one of these, mine takes like 10 minutes to heat up, and then I have to hold if for another 5 minutes to solder something...
11:04 Hackbat I know I can just splice in a better iron from them that HAS tips
11:05 * IIsi50MHz somehow interprets that as EPic Fail Card Gallery
11:05 Sgt_Lemming ours goes from cold to hot in about 30 seconds Sasha
11:05 Hackbat mine is 40watts
11:05 Sasha screw you guys :p
11:05 Hackbat but again it's radioshack
11:05 Hackbat so yeah
11:05 Hackbat worst 30 bucks ever
11:06 IIsi50MHz Indeed, we have a 'shack iron that equally sucks.
11:06 IIsi50MHz I haven't touched in a few years.
11:06 Hackbat I mean it gets the job done
11:06 IIsi50MHz touched it*
11:06 Sasha Mind giving it to me :P
11:06 Sgt_Lemming I personally own a 200w iron for doing high current connections as well
11:06 Sgt_Lemming it's a beast of a thing
11:07 * Hackbat wants a Weller or a hakko
11:07 Sgt_Lemming Hakko 936 FTW!
11:09 Hackbat http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9672
11:09 Hackbat sparkfun has a 936 clone that compatible with the tips
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11:12 Hackbat I'd probally get one of these then later upgrade to a hakko 888
11:13 minimadness cool when can wee contorl the wether cam
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11:16 Hackbat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wether
11:16 Hackbat I don't theink we want one of those cams
11:16 Hackbat *think
11:16 Sasha Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha LOL
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11:56 Sgt_Lemming mmmm, johnny mnemonic
12:03 NeWtoz oh a hamfest near me in a few weeks
12:11 Sasha You mean hempfest?
12:11 Sasha You're sooo lucky dude, something like this where I live would never happen!
12:12 NeWtoz um, no
12:14 * IIsi50MHz ponder buying a miniature mouse to integrate into his Trackman Marble so that it gains a scroll wheel, and possibly higher DPI.
12:14 IIsi50MHz +s
12:14 Sgt_Lemming IIsi50MHz just buy a trackman wheel?
12:14 IIsi50MHz Wrong shape.
12:14 Sgt_Lemming it's much better than the marble anyway
12:15 IIsi50MHz I'm ambi-mouse-trous, so my mouse/trackball has to be, too.
12:15 Sgt_Lemming I have a cordless trackman wheel, it's awesome
12:15 IIsi50MHz I don't need cordless in a trackball.
12:16 Sgt_Lemming mines been in use for about two months... It runs on one AA battery
12:16 Sgt_Lemming I use it about 40 hours a week
12:16 IIsi50MHz Or...I could /never/ buy batteries for it. (-:
12:17 Sgt_Lemming cordless one is win
12:17 IIsi50MHz For an optical mouse, I don't mind cordless.
12:17 Sgt_Lemming as it has back/forward buttons
12:17 IIsi50MHz For a trackball...I don't slide the thing around, so why cordless?
12:18 IIsi50MHz Hmm, both of mine are old enough that they say "Marble Mouse" instead of "Trackman Marble".
12:18 IIsi50MHz (on the bottom)
12:19 IIsi50MHz Anyway, they're more comfortable for long use than any other mouse or trackball I've ever used.
12:20 IIsi50MHz They seem to have a lot of space in side them, and still work perfectly,
12:20 IIsi50MHz so I'm thinking about upgrading them.
12:29 Sgt_Lemming I'm looking at upgrading our hackerspaces sign
12:30 Sgt_Lemming adding some super bright LED's
12:30 Sgt_Lemming http://www.dealextreme.com/p/rgb-multicolored-1-meter-30-led-6w-light-strip-dc-12v-14965
12:30 Sasha Dude, buy it on eBay, so much cheaper
12:30 Sgt_Lemming it's RGB already, but I want to make it a lot LOT brighter
12:30 Sgt_Lemming no, it's not
12:30 Sgt_Lemming find it cheaper for me then sasha
12:30 Sasha It is. Trust me, I use both websites all the time..
12:31 Sgt_Lemming maybe where you live, but not many places do free postage
12:31 Sgt_Lemming and postage is a killer for me
12:31 Sasha Where do you live?
12:31 Sgt_Lemming australia
12:31 Sasha Oh. What about this: http://cgi.ebay.com/Non-Waterproof-5M-RGB-12V-5050-SMD-LED-Strip-30pcs-M-/320660660065?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item4aa8dd5f61
12:32 Sasha Personally speaking, your best bet would be to go on Alibaba. As low as 4$ a meter.
12:32 Sasha For RGB of course. Single color is like 2$
12:33 Sasha But then, there is the shipping, so I dunno how good of a deal it would be for you, especially if you're only buying a small quantity.
12:33 Sgt_Lemming I need 2 metres, total
12:33 Sasha Well, you could go and ask for a 2 meter "Sample" on alibaba :p
12:33 Sasha That's what I would do...
12:33 * Hackbat just got a free respirator
12:33 Sgt_Lemming 2 metres is even a bit much actually, as the sign is only 900mm long and I want a strip top and bottom
12:34 Sgt_Lemming also, DX has warranty
12:34 Sasha For 30 days....
12:37 Sasha Meh... whatever, it is up to you
12:38 Sgt_Lemming "Defective products are exchanged within 90 days of shipment."
12:38 Sgt_Lemming I've had a number of products replaced by them after a couple of months of use
12:39 Sgt_Lemming pretty much no questions asked
12:39 Sasha Same, but recently, I bought a Jet Torch from them, and it blew up... had no reply on that one yet.
12:43 Sasha No comment, eh?
12:43 Sgt_Lemming sorry, busy doing other shit
12:43 Sgt_Lemming I've been buying shit from them for years, never had a problem
12:46 * Hackbat owns a thing he has no idea how to work or keep up.
12:47 Sgt_Lemming which is?
12:48 Sgt_Lemming I have a 3.7V battery atm, it's capable of putting out 400A for about 30 seconds :-P
12:49 Hackbat this respriator
12:49 Hackbat *Respirator
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12:51 Hackbat The hospital threw it out
12:52 Sgt_Lemming sifn't scrap it for parts, there'd be some awesome parts in it
12:53 Hackbat O.o
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13:22 speedrunnerG55 good morning
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13:30 speedrunnerG55 WB batsteve
13:30 Sgt_Lemming night all
13:30 speedrunnerG55 night
13:31 Cprossu_Laptop goof news everyone
13:32 CaptainBoden Hello Mr Chris I have an a question, this day I build a Tesla Coil and I have a problem, problem here is my Capacitor tank is SWC (Salt Water Capacitor) is not working, first is work, but in the long run the fire is down, maybe SWC is dead or something, please help me :)
13:32 Cprossu_Laptop *good news
13:32 Cprossu_Laptop "Arrival at Post Office, May 14, 2011, 7:44 am, GRAND RAPIDS, MI 49504"
13:32 CaptainBoden And in other good shipping news, I got a phone call this moning confirming the Lotus will be delivered on Tuesday. :)
13:33 Cprossu_Laptop very nice
13:34 Cprossu_Laptop wow the post office must be rather close to the lab, eh?
13:34 Cprossu_Laptop it's at least in the same zip code
13:37 Cprossu_Laptop *wonders if that chinese buffet is any good*
13:37 Sasha Oh hai captainboden. Any news on the videos?
13:39 CaptainBoden no news on videos
13:40 CaptainBoden no idea where the post office is, they deliver.
13:46 Cprossu_KF7POU indeed they do ^_^
13:46 Cprossu_KF7POU hopefully everything made it there more or less in their respective pieces
13:49 * Hackbat seems to have aquired a respirator with Acid gas / formaldehyde cartridges
13:49 Hackbat From 1991
13:50 Hackbat so the carts are propally toast
13:50 Cprossu_KF7POU were the carts sealed?
13:50 Hackbat they were in the respirator
13:50 Hackbat came from the hosipital
13:50 Hackbat *Hospital
13:50 Cprossu_KF7POU not sure for acid carts, but I sure as hell wouldn't trust it
13:50 Hackbat Old OMG WE SPILLED STUFF kit
13:51 Hackbat problem is I can't find shit on Protech
13:51 Cprossu_KF7POU still it should use a standard cartridge
13:51 Cprossu_KF7POU bring it to a welding shop
13:53 Hackbat it has 3 inch filters
13:53 Cprossu_KF7POU from what I can tell
13:53 Cprossu_KF7POU http://www.sperian.com/Americas/Product_Catalog/Sperian_Respiratory_Protection.aspx
13:53 Cprossu_KF7POU ^ they took over eventually
13:54 Hackbat they don't have the same filters
13:55 Cprossu_KF7POU still just take it to a welding shop
13:55 Cprossu_KF7POU they'll be able to point you in the right direction
13:56 Cprossu_KF7POU http://www.fishersci.com/ecomm/servlet/fsproductdetail_10652_781167_%5BLjava.lang.String;@1d1e1fe_-1_0
13:56 Cprossu_KF7POU shoot it's a java
13:56 Cprossu_KF7POU that link didn't work did it?
13:56 Hackbat thats them
13:57 Hackbat well I think
13:57 Hackbat mine are old as hell
13:57 Hackbat but the thread ends look the same
13:57 Cprossu_KF7POU well at least they have the acid ones in stock
13:57 Hackbat well I don't really need the acid ones
13:58 Cprossu_KF7POU rofl
13:58 Hackbat I'd just like something for general work
13:58 Hackbat Cutting and such
13:58 Cprossu_KF7POU all I can say is go to your local welding shop (again) they'll have what you need if anyone does
13:58 Hackbat IDk if we HAVE a welding shop
13:59 Cprossu_KF7POU there has to be one
13:59 Cprossu_KF7POU where do you live?
13:59 Hackbat shelby, nc
13:59 Hackbat My college does have a welding department, they might beable to point me to one
13:59 Cprossu_KF7POU yes
14:00 Cprossu_KF7POU just look on one of their oxygen or acetylene bottles
14:00 Cprossu_KF7POU if your lucky there'll be a label with the supply shop on it
14:01 Cprossu_KF7POU http://www.mwsc.com/
14:01 Cprossu_KF7POU ^theres one I found
14:02 Cprossu_KF7POU but who knows if it's even close
14:02 Cprossu_KF7POU ? Machine & Welding Supply CoAddress:Station is accessible?
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14:02 Cprossu_KF7POU Placement on map is approximate
14:02 Cprossu_KF7POU 2304 North Chester Street
14:02 Cprossu_KF7POU Gastonia, NC 28052
14:02 Hackbat the papers that came in the hazard kit says this milter does Acid gas, Dusts, fumes, masts, and radionuclides.
14:03 Cprossu_KF7POU is there a numper on it?
14:03 Cprossu_KF7POU eg p100
14:04 Hackbat G102/G208
14:05 Cprossu_KF7POU oh
14:05 Cprossu_KF7POU do you have a phonebook?
14:05 Cprossu_KF7POU you could always give that a shot
14:06 Hackbat I'm on vacation D: soooo not gonna worry myself that much
14:07 Hackbat my main worry is will these things kill me?
14:07 obtusemobile woo vacation!
14:08 obtusemobile if you have to ask that question .. then yes.
14:08 Hackbat and by vaction I mean "I don't have to go into class until the 23rd"
14:08 Hackbat Well I don't know ANYTHING about these filters
14:08 Hackbat do they degraded after 10 years?
14:08 Hackbat *degrade
14:09 Cprossu_KF7POU is there a year stamped on those?
14:09 Cprossu_KF7POU unsealed I Wouldn't count on them to protect you
14:09 Hackbat Well I'm not worried about Clorine gas
14:10 Hackbat I'm worried about particulate.
14:10 obtusemobile why not worried about chlorine?
14:11 Cprossu_KF7POU since most filters have activated carbon in them
14:11 Cprossu_KF7POU ~ 6 months max
14:11 Cprossu_KF7POU is the 'approved' time
14:12 Cprossu_KF7POU after they have been unsealed
14:12 Cprossu_KF7POU so Hackbat how goes vintage computing fun?
14:12 Hackbat Not touch any of it, Worked my ass off then spent last 3 days asleep and watching diggnation
14:13 Cprossu_KF7POU but if all you're worried about is particulate, don't use a respirator, get some face masks
14:13 Hackbat Well this is free
14:13 Cprossu_KF7POU oh also, do you have a beard?
14:13 Hackbat kinda
14:13 Hackbat like half inch
14:13 Cprossu_KF7POU then it won't seal
14:13 Cprossu_KF7POU simple as that
14:14 obtusemobile respirator+face mask
14:14 Hackbat nope it seals
14:14 Hackbat just did a leak test
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14:15 Cprossu_KF7POU just wait and it'll come undone
14:15 Cprossu_KF7POU without you even realizing it
14:15 Hackbat I don't plan on using this all day
14:15 Cprossu_KF7POU an hour?
14:15 Hackbat probally
14:16 mikemol GRLUG Saturday Social today from 2-6PM
14:16 Hackbat just for projects
14:16 Cprossu_KF7POU because you'll have issues after ~15 mins or so
14:16 Hackbat I doubt it
14:16 Cprossu_KF7POU well still
14:16 Cprossu_KF7POU why not a facemask?
14:16 Hackbat I have to buy them
14:16 Hackbat I'm cheap
14:16 Cprossu_KF7POU or are you looking for the 'cool' look instead of the protection?
14:16 Hackbat I got this for free
14:16 Cprossu_KF7POU face masks are about as cheap as you can get
14:17 Cprossu_KF7POU and when it comes to your ass being protected
14:17 Cprossu_KF7POU spend a little
14:17 Hackbat Again this isn't life or death
14:17 Hackbat this is I don't want a throat full of dust
14:17 Cprossu_KF7POU then don't use the resprirator!
14:17 Cprossu_KF7POU it'll just get in your way!
14:17 obtusemobile hospital bills are like 1000's percent higher than a facemask.
14:18 Cprossu_KF7POU and not protect as well as your $.50 dust mask
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14:18 Cprossu_KF7POU thank you obtusemobile
14:18 obtusemobile dont cheap out on safety. itll cost you more later
14:18 * Hackbat will take his chances using the respirator for 1 hour like once a month
14:18 Cprossu_KF7POU now if you want to get the proper new filters for it
14:19 Cprossu_KF7POU and if you use the repirator correctly
14:19 Cprossu_KF7POU I'd be happy
14:19 Cprossu_KF7POU Hackbat: please don't cause me more stress.. did you hear what happened the other day to me?
14:19 Hackbat Will the filters fillter out dust from cutting?
14:19 Cprossu_KF7POU no
14:19 Cprossu_KF7POU not the ones you have
14:19 Hackbat it's rated for dust
14:19 Cprossu_KF7POU god knows what they have been through
14:19 obtusemobile tammy didnt wear safety goggles. now she cant see
14:19 Cprossu_KF7POU and what the state of certain chemicals is
14:19 Hackbat it's never been used
14:20 Cprossu_KF7POU it was unsealed
14:20 Cprossu_KF7POU that's enough
14:20 Cprossu_KF7POU ok, Hackbat
14:20 Hackbat They never touched the paper work D:
14:20 Cprossu_KF7POU I got a email from a parent of a kid
14:20 Cprossu_KF7POU right
14:20 Cprossu_KF7POU one I haven't heard from for 2 months
14:21 Cprossu_KF7POU Thanking me for trying to convince her sun from playing around with microwave oven transformers
14:21 Cprossu_KF7POU *son
14:21 Cprossu_KF7POU he god bit. by a MOT.
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14:22 Cprossu_KF7POU She said he followed the one hand rule I told to him
14:22 obtusemobile what happend to you cprossu?
14:22 Cprossu_KF7POU but he promised me he wouldn't mess around with them
14:22 Cprossu_KF7POU [07:20] <Cprossu_KF7POU> I got a email from a parent of a kid
14:22 Cprossu_KF7POU [07:20] <Cprossu_KF7POU> right
14:22 Cprossu_KF7POU [07:21] <Cprossu_KF7POU> one I haven't heard from for 2 months
14:22 Cprossu_KF7POU [07:21] <Cprossu_KF7POU> Thanking me for trying to convince her sun from playing around with microwave oven transformers
14:22 Cprossu_KF7POU [07:21] <Cprossu_KF7POU> *son
14:22 Cprossu_KF7POU [07:21] <Cprossu_KF7POU> he got bit. by a MOT.
14:22 Cprossu_KF7POU [07:22] <Cprossu_KF7POU> She said he followed the one hand rule I told to him
14:23 Cprossu_KF7POU [07:22] <Cprossu_KF7POU> but he promised me he wouldn't mess around with them
14:23 Cprossu_KF7POU but he did anyway
14:23 Cprossu_KF7POU ontop of it I thought (he had said) he was 15
14:23 Cprossu_KF7POU ....he was 9.........
14:23 Cprossu_KF7POU she said he's 'ok and fine' whatever that means
14:24 Cprossu_KF7POU so please.... please... don't do something stupid despite fair warning
14:24 obtusemobile wow. what is the one hand rule?
14:24 Cprossu_KF7POU stick one hand in your pocket when dealing with HV
14:24 Hackbat keep one hand in your belt
14:24 Cprossu_KF7POU either way
14:24 Hackbat yeah
14:25 Cprossu_KF7POU probably saved his ass
14:25 obtusemobile i typically dont like playing with hv
14:25 Cprossu_KF7POU when I Was a kid I got bit by a charged up CRT
14:26 obtusemobile i have no training to so it safely
14:26 Cprossu_KF7POU though I don't remember some of it
14:26 obtusemobile ouch
14:26 Hackbat okay my thing is all I want to know is do they degrade and release harmful chemicals?
14:26 Cprossu_KF7POU depending on the forumla yes
14:26 Cprossu_KF7POU quite a few do
14:26 Cprossu_KF7POU especially multipurpose carts
14:27 Hackbat okay then I won't use it
14:27 Cprossu_KF7POU see what the carts you want will cost
14:27 Cprossu_KF7POU the particulates (only) you can use for quite a long time and they don't degrade
14:28 Cprossu_KF7POU it's when you start putting certain things into them chemically that they get their expiration other than "I can't breathe through this anymore"
14:28 Cprossu_KF7POU meaning stuff to deal with acid, radionuclide, corrosives, etc
14:29 Cprossu_KF7POU biological
14:29 Cprossu_KF7POU however
14:29 Cprossu_KF7POU if given no other choice
14:29 Cprossu_KF7POU I'd still try it in a zombie apocolypse xD
14:30 Cprossu_KF7POU couldn't hurt
14:30 Hackbat 4 for 44
14:31 Hackbat I have to use a cart
14:32 Hackbat fucking nose bleed
14:39 Cprossu_KF7POU CaptainBoden: Sorting Complete, May 14, 2011, 9:38 am, GRAND RAPIDS, MI 49504
14:40 CaptainBoden you know that just because you're making me crazy with this I'm going to put it n a shelf for a week before I even open it right?
14:40 Cprossu_KF7POU of course
14:40 Cprossu_KF7POU btw on a more important scale
14:41 Cprossu_KF7POU can you tell Hackbat not to use 18 year old respirator carts?
14:41 CaptainBoden I've had less shit to deal with in moving an $80k supercar across the country.
14:41 Hackbat 20
14:41 Hackbat they're from 1991 and it's 2011
14:41 Cprossu_KF7POU I thought you said they were from '93
14:41 Cprossu_KF7POU oh dear
14:41 CaptainBoden I feel this is a self-limiting problem.
14:41 Cprossu_KF7POU CaptainBoden: I thought most of the shit was from the canadian package
14:42 CaptainBoden huh?
14:42 Cprossu_KF7POU someone sent some graphics cards from canada
14:43 CaptainBoden I honestly don't remember offhand, my whole world is conduit today, lol
14:43 CaptainBoden and cafe
14:43 Cprossu_KF7POU and it's been like 3 weeks or something
14:43 Cprossu_KF7POU I sent mine off thursday xD
14:43 Cprossu_KF7POU so if 2 days is too much I appologize
14:44 Cprossu_KF7POU I just know you'll be happy with the thing at the top of the box
14:44 Cprossu_KF7POU which is stream related =)
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15:01 mashpriborintorg Hello geeks
15:02 Cprossu_KF7POU what's new?
15:04 mashpriborintorg nothing special by my side slow week-end
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15:21 mashpriborintorg hello speedrunnerG55
15:22 speedrunnerG55 Hi mashpriborintorg
15:22 mashpriborintorg waiting for the fun to start
15:23 Cprossu_KF7POU did I miss a memo mashpriborintorg?
15:23 speedrunnerG55 The fun?
15:23 mashpriborintorg this red and white van onto the chuch parking lot ssems suspicious
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15:23 mashpriborintorg at the lab it start at noon as always
15:23 Cprossu_KF7POU birdcam!
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15:24 Cprossu_KF7POU for a second there
15:24 Cprossu_KF7POU anyone see that?
15:24 mashpriborintorg I saw it
15:24 speedrunnerG55 I didnt
15:24 LeadHead1 What dun happened
15:24 Cprossu_KF7POU was that a robin? lol
15:25 Cprossu_KF7POU was like... wtf is this camera doing here
15:25 Cprossu_KF7POU "you all are sick, you know that right?"
15:25 mashpriborintorg it looks like a bird, but maybe it's a bird disguise alien, trying to enter the lab for seeing some awesome stuff
15:26 Cprossu_KF7POU one could only hope =P
15:26 Cprossu_KF7POU more than likely if it's a space alien it just want to take a crap in one of the HAAS machines to make Jermey's life a living hell xD
15:27 speedrunnerG55 :P
15:27 Cprossu_KF7POU poor cory he's been there all night, living on beans, tacos, and water
15:28 speedrunnerG55 That must be fun
15:28 mashpriborintorg or addicting Cory
15:28 Cprossu_KF7POU I bet mc smells like ass though
15:28 Cprossu_KF7POU need to send some ventillation fans
15:28 mashpriborintorg yeah he has a lot of TGG videos to proceed
15:28 Cprossu_KF7POU or perhaps that thing they are using at fukushima
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15:29 mashpriborintorg no way out until it's finished, omni keeping the door
15:29 Cprossu_KF7POU http://cryptome.org/eyeball/daiichi-npp15/pict10.jpg
15:29 Cprossu_KF7POU ^ they'll need to attach one of those to mc
15:30 Cprossu_KF7POU so they can reduce the radioactivity to a humanly survivable one
15:30 * Druidic_Rifleman hugs REDhome
15:30 Cprossu_KF7POU or in this case REDhomw
15:30 mashpriborintorg don't know  wtf it is, but it's bulky
15:30 mashpriborintorg red needs coffee
15:30 LeadHead1 Meh, a Big-ass-fan should do the trick, and be much cooler at that.
15:30 Cprossu_KF7POU you mean that photo?
15:30 REDhomw is now known as REDhome
15:30 REDhome Hey guys :)
15:31 Cprossu_KF7POU it's a part of a filtration system they are using at fukushima ..trying to use anyway
15:31 Cprossu_KF7POU REDhome: nice to see you!
15:31 LeadHead1 http://www.bigassfans.com/
15:31 REDhome slash talk to you, lol. You too.
15:31 mashpriborintorg neat...
15:31 Cprossu_KF7POU http://cryptome.org/eyeball/daiichi-npp15/pict14.jpg
15:31 Cprossu_KF7POU yeah I want a bigassfan
15:31 speedrunnerG55 Oh hi RED
15:31 REDhome ohhai
15:31 Cprossu_KF7POU we have a few at one of the campuses I did work at
15:32 LeadHead1 plastic hoses everywehre
15:32 Cprossu_KF7POU yeah, it's not a good situation down there
15:33 Cprossu_KF7POU then again
15:33 Cprossu_KF7POU that's minimal http://cryptome.org/eyeball/daiichi-npp15/pict17.jpg
15:33 Cprossu_KF7POU compared to what the reactor building in general now looks like
15:34 LeadHead1 They should just do what they did to Chernobyl
15:34 LeadHead1 put a big box around everything, and forget it ever happened
15:34 Druidic_Rifleman here is something i wanna know... why did no one antiscipate something like this happening?
15:34 Cprossu_KF7POU well they are building a bigger box for chernobyl
15:34 * mtearle has an idea
15:34 REDhome was this not a topic of discussion last night, putting a giant plastic box over japan?
15:34 Cprossu_KF7POU Druidic_Rifleman: many did
15:35 Cprossu_KF7POU it indeed was, REDhome
15:35 REDhome what is your idea mtearle ?
15:35 Cprossu_KF7POU flammable polyester =/
15:35 Cprossu_KF7POU doesn't sound like the best option
15:35 LeadHead1 Yeah, beacuse the current containment box in chernobyl is physically falling apart
15:35 Druidic_Rifleman I mean.... nuclear reacto Most sysmicly pone area on earth
15:35 Cprossu_KF7POU well LeadHead1: it was never built to be airtight
15:35 Cprossu_KF7POU or even close
15:35 mashpriborintorg I can take home one or two japanese girls, if it can help
15:35 Druidic_Rifleman what do you expect they use that ceap russian mob concreate
15:35 * REDhome rolls her eyes
15:35 LeadHead1 Yeah, last I heard the roof of the current box was falling apart actually
15:36 Cprossu_KF7POU plus it was built on concrete that had pressure waves destroy it's integrity
15:36 Druidic_Rifleman the concreat for my front porch is probly better stuff
15:36 CaptainBoden STEVE!
15:36 CaptainBoden You and I have a project today :)
15:36 Cprossu_KF7POU YAY STEVE1
15:36 LeadHead1 Okay Druidic_Rifleman, we get your point
15:36 Cprossu_KF7POU 1230AM, THE SHARK!!!!!!!!
15:36 Cprossu_KF7POU j/k
15:36 CaptainBoden your mic is really low
15:36 Druidic_Rifleman hey CaptainBoden
15:36 CaptainBoden that's better
15:37 Cprossu_KF7POU yeah tons
15:37 LeadHead1 Funny how it's safer to just build a bigger box over the current mess, than tear down the old one.
15:37 Druidic_Rifleman Did you ever get that package from me?
15:37 CaptainBoden I spent $1400 on electrical supplies yesterday :)
15:37 CaptainBoden We're running the conduit from hell.
15:37 REDhome :)
15:37 CaptainBoden There will be CLIMBING.
15:37 speedrunnerG55 Steve FTW
15:37 * Druidic_Rifleman does not ever wanna have to think about how much money is spent on LSL in a day
15:38 CaptainBoden We're doing it over a stairway. No ladders, no scaffolding, harnes work
15:38 REDhome Hi Steve, by the way. Good Morning :)
15:38 CaptainBoden btw, cafe cam is down
15:38 CaptainBoden You in all day?
15:38 CaptainBoden YAY!
15:38 CaptainBoden I've missed you
15:38 CaptainBoden not a bad idea
15:38 CaptainBoden What do you need?
15:39 CaptainBoden for?
15:39 CaptainBoden Go to Kutche's
15:39 CaptainBoden NW corner of FRont and Leonard
15:39 CaptainBoden stupid easy to find
15:40 CaptainBoden take leonard to Scribner, loop around the back of NAPA
15:40 CaptainBoden See if they sell 3/4" LB fittings for conduit.
15:41 CaptainBoden I'm planning on heading to Home DEpot to get a half dozen.
15:41 CaptainBoden k, I'm heading in shortly, today's gonna be awesome :)
15:41 mtearle REDhome, a Geek Group scavenger hunt!
15:42 LeadHead1 What happened to the camera in master control?
15:42 CaptainBoden oh, as soon as you see Dave ro Batman, have them find my little level and a chalkline please
15:42 CaptainBoden k
15:42 CaptainBoden I'm 10-17
15:42 REDhome that would be fun mtearle :)
15:43 CaptainBoden oh btw
15:43 CaptainBoden I think there's a camera somewhere
15:43 CaptainBoden Look outside my office, in the hall, there's a coax and a power feed hanging there
15:43 mtearle the idea is that the Labs needs lots of stuff, get the folks of the internet to compete with each other, as to who can find and ship to the labs the most useful stuff
15:43 CaptainBoden I'd like to know where the other end is.
15:44 CaptainBoden fill it with a feed
15:44 CaptainBoden We need to scrounge more exterior rated cameras
15:44 CaptainBoden Where is it?
15:45 CaptainBoden penetrates to roof or wall?
15:45 CaptainBoden cool
15:45 CaptainBoden oh wow, that's low
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15:45 CaptainBoden oh ok
15:45 Cprossu_KF7POU lol what are the noise ordinances for that area? can you get away with air raiding the taggers? xD
15:46 CaptainBoden no, we can not
15:46 Cprossu_KF7POU pity
15:46 mtearle this makes more sense, steve is at the console ...
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15:47 Cprossu_KF7POU speaking of which
15:47 Cprossu_KF7POU which feed is the black camera?
15:47 REDhome yep
15:47 REDhome :)
15:47 REDhome Steve. are you doing outdoor zomb tonight?
15:47 LeadHead1 I thought you guys couldn't automatically cycle through the cameras
15:48 Cprossu_KF7POU LeadHead1: they are using the security dvr
15:48 * REDhome is getting offline to run errands and then head to the lab. Bye all.
15:48 Cprossu_KF7POU it had an ID-10T problem on the hdd jumper settings for the IDE drives
15:48 Cprossu_KF7POU later REDhome
15:49 LeadHead1 speaking of idiots and harddrives
15:49 LeadHead1 apple just introduced a proprietary harddrive connector
15:49 Cprossu_KF7POU LeadHead1: that's not unrecoverable
15:49 Cprossu_KF7POU they used to have custom hdd bios
15:49 Cprossu_KF7POU back in the day
15:50 Cprossu_KF7POU now that was a real stinker
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15:50 speedrunnerG55 Bye red
15:52 LeadHead1 They're still doing that too
15:52 LeadHead1 "For the main 3.5″ SATA hard drive bay in the new 2011 machines, Apple  has altered the SATA power connector itself from a standard 4-wire power  configuration to a 7-wire configuration. Hard drive temperature control  is regulated by a combination of this cable and Apple proprietary  firmware on the hard drive itself."
15:52 speedrunnerG55 Does TGG do annythiing for field day?
15:53 LeadHead1 "From our testing, we’ve found that removing this drive from the system, or even from that bay itself,  causes the machine’s hard drive fans to spin at maximum speed and  replacing the drive with any non-Apple original drive will result in the  iMac failing the Apple Hardware Test (AHT)."
15:53 Cprossu_KF7POU well it's not like it's anything new
15:53 Cprossu_KF7POU http://www.elec-intro.com/EX/05-14-01/SCSI_84_Quantum_250_Apple.jpg
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15:54 LeadHead1 workarounds back then were probably quite easy
15:55 Cprossu_KF7POU nope
15:55 Cprossu_KF7POU no apple firmware = no boot
15:55 LeadHead1 hm
15:55 Cprossu_KF7POU simple as taht
15:55 Druidic_Rifleman CaptainBoden you still in here?
15:55 Cprossu_KF7POU you had to burn a rom for your hdd
15:55 Cprossu_KF7POU and it better be close
15:55 Cprossu_KF7POU then you had a chance of saving some money
15:55 * mashpriborintorg taking apart a 1980 vintage vcr
15:55 LeadHead1 at least you had options back then
15:55 Cprossu_KF7POU you will too
15:56 Cprossu_KF7POU someone will release a simple adaptor
15:56 mashpriborintorg hey, cory has a big red bin, for his taco wrappers
15:56 Cprossu_KF7POU with the temp circuitry in it
15:56 Cprossu_KF7POU I bet $10 of fake IRC money on it
15:56 Cprossu_KF7POU that we'll see it within the year
15:56 LeadHead1 Probably, but I doubt it will be just a simpe adaptor
15:56 Cprossu_KF7POU yeah it will
15:56 Cprossu_KF7POU it's just a serial bus
15:56 speedrunnerG55 Ill bet 100 internets
15:57 Cprossu_KF7POU it'll be an adaptor with a little PIC onboard
15:57 Cprossu_KF7POU and a temp sensor
15:57 LeadHead1 I don't think the temperature controller uses serial
15:57 Cprossu_KF7POU how do you think it communicates then?
15:57 Cprossu_KF7POU magic?
15:58 LeadHead1 Three wires, why would there be 3 extra wires if it were serial
15:58 speedrunnerG55 Because there apple.
15:58 speedrunnerG55 Idk
15:58 Cprossu_KF7POU because they only want to make a new connector once if they want to add anything?
15:59 LeadHead1 All sensors in current PC's communicate over a two-wire bus
15:59 Cprossu_KF7POU extra wire
15:59 LeadHead1 It's apple.
15:59 Cprossu_KF7POU even if they dump some form of DRM in there
15:59 Cprossu_KF7POU it'll still be ignored
16:00 Cprossu_KF7POU and broken
16:00 Cprossu_KF7POU the question is: are there enough loyal geek imac users who care?
16:00 LeadHead1 The old external temperature sensor was a two-wire deal
16:02 Cprossu_KF7POU don't worry it'll be broken
16:03 Cprossu_KF7POU I guarantee it
16:03 LeadHead1 Personally, I think there is a problem when your design is so compact, and so tight
16:03 Cprossu_KF7POU it's called they don't cool it properly
16:03 LeadHead1 that it relies on air flow from a dedicated fan to keep the harddrives cool
16:03 Cprossu_KF7POU this is what happens when you go design over function
16:04 Cprossu_KF7POU and treat the symptom of the failure instead of the root cause
16:05 LeadHead1 Yup
16:05 Cprossu_KF7POU http://blog.macsales.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/owc_imac_2011_drive_connector.jpg
16:05 Cprossu_KF7POU wish I could see the hdd end
16:06 LeadHead1 That's a funky powr connector
16:06 mashpriborintorg Apple and Sony love making weird proprietary connectors...
16:07 Cprossu_KF7POU and mircrosoft too
16:07 Cprossu_KF7POU *microsoft
16:07 Cprossu_KF7POU but don't be worried, it'll be broken in short order
16:07 mashpriborintorg because  you'll have to pay them again when you will need to use it... unless you find so crappy chinese compatible thingie
16:07 LeadHead1 What
16:07 Cprossu_KF7POU and who cares about the imac anyway?
16:07 Cprossu_KF7POU seriously
16:07 Cprossu_KF7POU why is this a big oh shit problem?
16:08 mashpriborintorg it's just fun to take apart
16:08 LeadHead1 Apple now has 10% of the PC market
16:08 Cprossu_KF7POU and that unit still has 2 regular sata's
16:08 LeadHead1 Cprossu_KF7POU: It freaks the hell out if you don't use the HDD connector.
16:09 Cprossu_KF7POU http://blog.macsales.com/10206-further-explained-apples-imac-2011-model-hard-drive-restrictions?APC=XLR8YourMac09
16:09 LeadHead1 Fails hardware test and sets every single fan to 100%
16:09 Cprossu_KF7POU ^ LeadHead1: working solutions
16:09 Nazca is someone playing an FPS on one of the NLE stations? lol
16:09 Cprossu_KF7POU http://www.hddfancontrol.com/HDDFanControl/HDD_Fan_Control.html
16:09 Cprossu_KF7POU no big deal.
16:10 mashpriborintorg yeah cory is playing instead of editing
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16:10 Cprossu_KF7POU the sky isn't falling LeadHead1 =)
16:10 Nazca <LeadHead1> Three wires, why would there be 3 extra wires if it were serial <--- power, signal, clock is a possible
16:11 Cprossu_KF7POU or a signal ground in there too
16:11 Cprossu_KF7POU reference voltage, signal, ground
16:11 Cprossu_KF7POU ^ xD
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16:11 Nazca I'm assuming it's powered via some other wires
16:11 mashpriborintorg they can even modulate some data signal over the power wire, as with satellite antennas lnbs,  who knows
16:12 LeadHead1 reference voltage and signal ground would be analog temperature sensing
16:12 Cprossu_KF7POU no but you can make a serial setup with it
16:12 Cprossu_KF7POU I've seen it done before
16:12 Cprossu_KF7POU cars aren't the only things that use a serial bus you know
16:12 Nazca yea, 2 wire stuff is usually either resistive analog or digital circuit closing
16:13 LeadHead1 No duh?
16:14 LeadHead1 @ Cprossu_
16:14 Cprossu_KF7POU LeadHead1: YAY! If we short those two lines vs. connect to the drive (factory or otherwise), the fans don�t rev and Apple AHT does pass
16:14 LeadHead1 Ghetto at best
16:14 Cprossu_KF7POU yeah but you were saying it was insurrmountable
16:15 Cprossu_KF7POU and ZOMG WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE BECAUSE APPLE HAS A PROPRIETARY CONNECTOR
16:15 LeadHead1 Actually, I'm quite sure you're the only one who started overreacting and figuring it was a huge problem
16:15 Cprossu_KF7POU pfft is all I have to say. Look for a nice professional board that sits ontop of said weird power connector and gives you a standard sata power connector
16:16 LeadHead1 Or don't buy an apple product?
16:17 Hackbat Ohhh, I should beable to use normal P100 filters in this thing
16:17 mashpriborintorg the only apple produts I even owned were picked up for free in the street :-D
16:17 Cprossu_KF7POU good deal LeadHead1
16:19 tggmc1 .seen captainboden
16:19 BotSteve tggmc1: I last saw captainboden 0.56 hours ago at 2011-05-14 15:46:07 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 16:19:31 UTC
16:19 Cprossu_KF7POU ok LeadHead1: I have to appologize
16:19 Cprossu_KF7POU there's been a guy
16:19 Cprossu_KF7POU bringing up that power connector thing
16:20 Cprossu_KF7POU like every 4 hours
16:20 Cprossu_KF7POU driving me crazy
16:20 Cprossu_KF7POU I thought it was you for a sec lol
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16:20 PP__ Hello there!
16:20 Cprossu_KF7POU I've ignored it until now when I think I snapped
16:21 Cprossu_KF7POU so once again, LeadHead1: my bad!
16:21 NeWtoz OH SNAP
16:21 speedrunnerG55 Hi PP__
16:22 Cprossu_KF7POU tggmc1: can you have cory assume the Party Escort Position?
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16:25 Nazca there are two beautiful words that deal with slow arse contractors .... Penalty Clauses
16:27 Nazca and you know what I would love to do on Lazarus?  teach it sorting algorithms
16:28 speedrunnerG55 Hi PP__
16:28 Druidic_Rifleman thats the tape sorting robot
16:29 tggmc1 :P waiting on a short render
16:29 Druidic_Rifleman And if any one wants to take part in discussing opensource flying killer robots Chck out project puff in pipe dreams
16:29 Nazca no... Lazarus is a tape changing robot... :p
16:29 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: DruidicRifleman on Project Puff the majic dragon... no not the canabis kind
16:29 Nazca what sort of flying?
16:29 Nazca I'm working on a quadrocoptor, which is a flying robot of awesome
16:29 Druidic_Rifleman A scale paint ball AC130 spooky gunship
16:30 Nazca epic
16:30 Druidic_Rifleman Mine can kill your flying robot
16:30 mashpriborintorg tggmc1: when will we have new tgg videos uploaded ?
16:30 Nazca it'd have to catch it first
16:30 Druidic_Rifleman I think i'll Probly need to book a week on the CNC routing table to make parts
16:30 Druidic_Rifleman Ever played Modernwarefare 2?
16:30 Nazca quads are hideously agile
16:31 Druidic_Rifleman i think it was modern warefare 2
16:31 Nazca full 6dof at high speed
16:31 Druidic_Rifleman And i have guns with 100 foot range And a small cannon that has a 300 foot range line of sight
16:31 Druidic_Rifleman Never seen a paint ball gun fired from an aircraft
16:31 Nazca that is kinda cool
16:32 Nazca recoil much?
16:32 Druidic_Rifleman Not paint ball
16:32 Druidic_Rifleman Recoil is less then a .22 on my A5
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16:32 Nazca nice
16:32 Druidic_Rifleman I'd love to get it field legal for living leagions 5 next year XD
16:33 tggmc1 Hopefully in like, an hour
16:33 Druidic_Rifleman i'd be playing for tech PB
16:34 mashpriborintorg yeah
16:34 Druidic_Rifleman And they have a bad habit of Going right to Spawn and shooting the other team as they walk onto the field for respawns
16:34 Nazca have you seen the quadrocoptor juggling video on youtube?
16:34 Druidic_Rifleman no
16:34 Nazca sec
16:34 speedrunnerG55 Does tgg do annything for field day
16:35 SparkyPojects Druidic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp4mxNE_k-Y
16:35 Nazca http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CR5y8qZf0Y is one
16:36 Druidic_Rifleman i know  allot of PB tanker's know they get half they're fun from crashign a line and seeing people run XD crash the line crash the Main base whipe out the generals from with in they're bunker with a Law
16:36 Cprossu_KF7POU steve's back?
16:37 Druidic_Rifleman Flying tank of doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
16:37 Cprossu_KF7POU welcome back steve
16:37 speedrunnerG55 Wb steve
16:37 Cprossu_KF7POU is that a wild moose I saw?
16:37 Cprossu_KF7POU in the bright light?
16:38 Nazca http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7X0_6o9J10 is some awesome agility from a quad
16:40 Cprossu_KF7POU batman!
16:40 mashpriborintorg OMG There's guys in the lab and omni is not here for supervising
16:41 Cprossu_KF7POU they'll all DIE!
16:41 mashpriborintorg or waste time eating snacks intead of working efficiently
16:42 Cprossu_KF7POU which will result in their DEATH!
16:42 mashpriborintorg and omni not having snacks !
16:43 Cprossu_KF7POU wait.. you meant the staff eating dog snacks?!
16:44 mashpriborintorg no... the reverse way
16:44 mashpriborintorg omni asking everyone for something to eat
16:45 Cprossu_KF7POU ok haha
16:45 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y6lZmLdtR4 this but in paint ball XD!!!
16:46 Druidic_Rifleman Good luke to trool nation force's XD
16:47 Druidic_Rifleman luckXD
16:47 Druidic_Rifleman My gail is to get 2 case's into her
16:47 Druidic_Rifleman goal
16:47 Druidic_Rifleman 1 case for each weapon
16:48 Druidic_Rifleman Nazca think your dinky quad copter compairs?
16:52 Nazca depends how manoeuvrable you make it .... too manoeuvrable and you'll have aiming issues, not enough and the quad will literally fly circles around it
16:53 Druidic_Rifleman nods
16:53 Druidic_Rifleman how ever how do those handle cross wind 300 feet in the air?
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16:54 Nazca what, quads, heli's or planes?
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16:55 Ponko92 good day all :)
16:55 Nazca planes probably fly slightly in to the wind, quads and helis probably fly straight but tilted in to the wind
16:55 BatSteve-Away is now known as BatSteve
16:55 BatSteve You can also use something called an aerodynamic slip which does the same thing.
16:55 Ponko92 don't planes fly in the direction the wind is coming?
16:56 Ponko92 so they fly with the wind almost
16:56 Nazca planes can fly in to, across or with the wind happily
16:56 BatSteve Ponko92: for takeoff and landing, they try to face into the wind
16:56 Nazca you just have to compensate for drift
16:56 Ponko92 ahh ok
16:56 BatSteve otherwise, it doesn't matter.
16:56 BatSteve and "try" is the key word there
16:56 speedrunnerG55 Hey BatSteve
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16:56 BatSteve you don't *have* to face the wind, it just helps.
16:56 BatSteve hi speed
16:56 Druidic_Rifleman what would win i gun fight bat steve Paint ball AC130 or a quad copter
16:56 SparkyPojects If the quad and aircraft were to the same scale, the quad would handle the wind fine, but would be able to sidestep and fly vertically to get above the plane fairly quickly and bomb it
16:57 Ponko92 lol i can imagine the do try ;)
16:57 BatSteve Druidic_Rifleman: what's the quad armed with?
16:57 Druidic_Rifleman nothing :P
16:57 BatSteve Then it's a draw.
16:57 Nazca oi! cheat :p
16:57 Druidic_Rifleman Maybe a two shot daranger
16:58 Druidic_Rifleman whats your target lift capacity?
16:58 exor674 lol, depending on the quad it could just sacifice itself and get injested
16:58 BatSteve if the quad pilot knows what he's doing the 130 will never have a viable shot.
16:58 Druidic_Rifleman My payload goal is 40 LBS
16:58 exor674 I'm pretty sure that'd fuck up a plane
16:58 Druidic_Rifleman prop aircraft
16:58 Ponko92 sort of like a glider?
16:59 Ponko92 but not EXACTLY like one
16:59 Nazca I'm not actually sure what the load is yet ... depends on the prop size and rpm, but it's probably pretty high since they're not normally maxed out in design
17:00 Druidic_Rifleman 4 31c 2 stroke engions to get her off the ground
17:01 Druidic_Rifleman My concern is that the AC130's Ware out at an larming weight
17:01 Druidic_Rifleman with the Cargo plane's they DON't gly max capcity every flight
17:01 Druidic_Rifleman the specters they've taken right to the max weight and Fly like that 99% of they're flight
17:02 Druidic_Rifleman the only time they don't is if they have to do trans atlantic and thats saving fule
17:02 Druidic_Rifleman I don't wanna run into that issue
17:02 Nazca my plan with the quad is 4 motors clocked down to about 13k rpm
17:02 BatSteve good lord rifleman, are you on your phone or something?
17:02 Druidic_Rifleman Noooo....
17:03 Druidic_Rifleman i need a IRC with spell check and i need the tech to fix my PC
17:03 Druidic_Rifleman cause i don't have space to instal
17:03 BatSteve you really do
17:03 Nazca I love Xchat spell check
17:03 Nazca makes my life so much easier
17:03 speedrunnerG55 So BatSteve does tgg do annything for field day?
17:03 BatSteve That being said, what is it about flying at max gross weight that makes an airframe "wear out"?
17:04 Nazca joint stress maybe?
17:04 Druidic_Rifleman it's that the specter's ALLways fly at max gross weight
17:04 Druidic_Rifleman the rest of the C130 fleet Does not get pushed as hard
17:05 BatSteve I ask again - what is it about flight at MGW that's such a big deal?
17:05 Druidic_Rifleman Excessive ware and tear not being seen on the rest of the AC130
17:05 Druidic_Rifleman any who
17:05 Druidic_Rifleman ttyl
17:06 BatSteve anything you say chief.
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17:14 Ponko92 hmm very quiet
17:14 Ponko92 too quiet
17:15 speedrunnerG55 Hi Ponko92
17:15 Ponko92 hello :)
17:15 Ponko92 no more fighting to death ok ;)
17:15 Ponko92 CORY
17:15 speedrunnerG55 Im still wondering if tgg does anyhing for field day
17:15 Ponko92 O_O he's vanished and i didn't hear movement
17:16 Ponko92 oh is that why its quiet?
17:16 speedrunnerG55 Whats why??
17:16 BatSteve .w field day
17:16 BotSteve "Field day (agriculture), a trade show" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_day
17:16 BatSteve what field day are you talking about?
17:16 speedrunnerG55 Amature radio
17:16 BatSteve oh
17:16 BatSteve I don't think so.
17:17 Ponko92 too quiet scares me
17:17 speedrunnerG55 We should totally have a cluv
17:17 speedrunnerG55 Club
17:17 speedrunnerG55 TGGARC
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17:23 Ponko92 .yt MATTEAU MATTEAU MATTEAU
17:23 BotSteve Ponko92: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZDsIaTmO_k
17:23 speedrunnerG55 And HIIIIIIIIII Ponko92 !!!!!!
17:24 speedrunnerG55 That loud enough for you
17:24 Ponko92 i did say HAIIII TOOO speedrunnerG55
17:24 Ponko92 love that
17:25 Ponko92 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ziarOEosIc
17:26 Ponko92 anyway guys and gals and others.... umm cya later i'm off out :)
17:26 Ponko92 lol
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17:32 Nazca you know what tgg videos need? picture in picture
17:33 Cprossu_KF7POU asking and answering a question no one else asked =P
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17:34 Cprossu_KF7POU yay tggRED!
17:34 tggRED Hey internet :)
17:34 Cprossu_KF7POU looks like a mess in mdh
17:34 Cprossu_KF7POU and they might have to pump and filter out MC before anyone can be there longer than 10 minutes
17:34 Cprossu_KF7POU xD
17:36 speedrunnerG55 HI RED!
17:37 Cprossu_KF7POU hey steve
17:38 speedrunnerG55 Pump and filter out?
17:38 Cprossu_KF7POU nm
17:38 * speedrunnerG55 sends tggRED an e-hug
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17:39 Cprossu_KF7POU tggmc1: good to see you all there!
17:40 BatSteve so long, team
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17:40 speedrunnerG55 Bye BatSteve-Away
17:41 tggmc1 thumper test shortly
17:41 Cprossu_KF7POU tggmc1: looking forward to it
17:41 speedrunnerG55 Thats awesome
17:45 tggmc1 THUMPER TEST, ONE MINUTE :D
17:45 exor674 what are they feeding to it?
17:45 Cprossu_KF7POU alum wire
17:45 Cprossu_KF7POU this time
17:46 Cprossu_KF7POU woot air compressor
17:47 speedrunnerG55 Air compressor?
17:47 Cprossu_KF7POU turned on waiting
17:47 Cprossu_KF7POU and we are go
17:47 speedrunnerG55 Is the live stream waching thumper?
17:47 Cprossu_KF7POU yes
17:47 Cprossu_KF7POU *boom*
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17:48 mashpriborintorg THUMPER DID DESTROY MY EARS
17:48 Cprossu_KF7POU rofl
17:49 themirotv omg
17:49 speedrunnerG55 So whats the news about stomper?
17:49 Cprossu_KF7POU it wasn't THAT bad
17:49 blorp missed it...
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17:50 speedrunnerG55 Hi Seroster WB
17:50 Seroster Elloh speedrunnerG55
17:51 Seroster Damn that was fast
17:51 speedrunnerG55 ahoy?
17:51 Seroster Aboy!
17:52 speedrunnerG55 Yes im a boy
17:52 Seroster BatSteve-Away, I aint no expert, but I think the bot aint workin right. Sucker didnt greet me =P
17:52 Cprossu_KF7POU .tfw 85020
17:52 BotSteve 85�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'Better than winter.'
17:52 Cprossu_KF7POU nice morning here
17:52 speedrunnerG55 .tfw 07410
17:52 BotSteve 63�F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Fair Lawn, NJ!  'It could be worse.'
17:53 speedrunnerG55 Yeahhh
17:55 speedrunnerG55 Should do a kazoo in thmper once everything is moved LOL
17:57 * mashpriborintorg note for next time: remove headphones *before* thumper test
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17:58 injektion What is a good neurotoxin I can make at home or buy?
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17:59 injektion My brother needs to be put out of his misery
18:00 tesla4d Believe it or not, there's a fairly powerful substance in banana peels. Most people just smoke it to get high, but if refined enough, it might kill.
18:00 tesla4d I can't recall how to extract it, though
18:01 Cprossu_Laptop you're just saying that to make him smoke bananna peels, huh? xD
18:01 Cprossu_Laptop j/k
18:01 injektion I was taking the center console out of the car so I can remove the rigged crap the previous owner put in and I asked him "are there any screws there" I even pointed out where the holes are
18:01 injektion He said no
18:01 Cprossu_Laptop I hate PO's
18:01 injektion I hate it when people fuck up the OE wiriing by putting in a CD changer in a 24 year old car
18:02 Cprossu_Laptop true story: the fusable link blew out on the OE wiring to the starter that powers nearly everything
18:02 Cprossu_Laptop guess how they got things "working" again?
18:02 injektion That is a bad design
18:02 Cprossu_Laptop nah it's ok
18:02 Cprossu_Laptop but
18:02 Cprossu_Laptop they ran a wire FROM THE BATTERY
18:02 injektion lol
18:03 Cprossu_Laptop through the fender up the hood
18:03 Cprossu_Laptop over the hood
18:03 Cprossu_Laptop through a hole in the door fender
18:03 Cprossu_Laptop into the door... put the fuse INSIDE
18:03 Cprossu_Laptop (WTF)
18:03 Cprossu_Laptop then ran the output of the toggle switch to the automatic choke
18:03 Cprossu_Laptop which had the impact of backfeeding some of the rest of the system
18:04 injektion The factory wiring for my car has the tach, speedo, radio, onboard computer, and interior lamps on the same fuse
18:04 Cprossu_Laptop and he couldn't understand why his 50A fuses kept blowing
18:04 Nazca opinion ... I have a shed load of caps rated 1000µF 6.3V that I've pulled from motherboards.... if I wire them all on one big series/parallel grid, how much bad ass will it register?
18:05 Cprossu_Laptop 6.3v what brand?
18:05 Nazca sanyo
18:05 Nazca green ones
18:05 Cprossu_Laptop hrmm low esr
18:05 Cprossu_Laptop probably minimal
18:06 Cprossu_Laptop I mean your leads are so close together to start with
18:06 speedrunnerG55 Make a rail gun
18:06 Cprossu_Laptop that's not much to work with
18:06 Nazca I also have 330µF 25V sanyos and 3300µF 6.3V nichicons
18:06 Cprossu_Laptop are the nichicons H(MM)?
18:07 Nazca yeah
18:07 Cprossu_Laptop they're crap then
18:07 Nazca HM(M)
18:07 Cprossu_Laptop they fucked up the electrolyte in those
18:07 Nazca fun
18:07 Cprossu_Laptop they tend to 'spload' if heated even a little bit
18:07 Cprossu_Laptop (when in use)
18:08 Cprossu_Laptop ~90F is more than enough to help it along
18:08 Nazca heh, they came out of 1U server boards
18:08 Cprossu_Laptop toasted boards?
18:08 Cprossu_Laptop I bet the sanyos came from supermicros =P
18:08 Nazca they did
18:09 Nazca not toasted, just obsolete
18:09 Cprossu_Laptop got any nippon chemicon?
18:09 Cprossu_Laptop (brown with white stripe)
18:09 Cprossu_Laptop Tri vent
18:10 Cprossu_Laptop has a shield for a logo
18:10 Cprossu_Laptop bigger ones say 'union chemicon'
18:10 Nazca black, purple/blue, green and silver
18:10 Cprossu_Laptop hrmmm purple blue could be several brands
18:11 Cprossu_Laptop rubycon?
18:11 Nazca there's a sanyo 100/16 which I'm not certain of ... 100µ 16V?
18:12 Nazca LXZ 25v 560µ
18:12 Cprossu_Laptop what do you hope to do with your 'crap cap bank'?
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18:12 Nazca some OS-CONs
18:13 Nazca I have a couple of rubys that I've not pulled out of their PSU boards yet
18:13 Cprossu_Laptop the oscons are polymer not 'lytic right?
18:14 Cprossu_Laptop got the power supplies for those suckers?
18:14 Nazca dunno ... I just have what seems like a life times supply of filter caps, was trying to be imagination
18:14 Nazca I'm not sure on the oscons actually
18:14 Cprossu_Laptop I bet they are polymer
18:14 Nazca they're lytic shape but no vents on top
18:14 Cprossu_Laptop yeah I'm damn certain
18:15 Nazca the new boards have silver ones ... they're tantalum aren't they?
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18:17 Cprossu_Laptop I think it's a grab bag
18:17 Cprossu_Laptop I Still see lytics and a mixture of solid cap tech
18:18 Cprossu_Laptop and it's harder to decode the labelings on the solids
18:18 Nazca yea
18:19 Nazca perhaps another approach .... how's adhesive vinyl as a dielectric?
18:21 Cprossu_Laptop I don't know. I don't design caps, I just [strike]blow them to hell[/strike] use them
18:21 Nazca adhesive vinyl + adhesive copper + vinyl cutter set to cut grid == quick hackup cap lol
18:22 Nazca I have these crazy ideas .... it keeps me entertained
18:22 MadManMarkAu God dammit, PxE is being a whore
18:23 MadManMarkAu And USB boot just doesn't work
18:23 Nazca pxe is always a whore
18:24 LeadHead1 I've always wanted to try a network boot before
18:24 Nazca she'll give up her files to anyone that'll jack in
18:24 Cprossu_Laptop PxE is always a whore
18:24 MadManMarkAu Trying to install ESXi 4.1
18:24 Nazca LeadHead1: it's rather anticlimatic most of the time
18:25 Cprossu_Laptop lol
18:25 LeadHead1 Someone just left me a voice mail
18:25 LeadHead1 consisting of "Ugh"
18:25 Cprossu_Laptop Although the partner has to I Pee the right way
18:26 Cprossu_Laptop and it always helps if the partner is the D H  Pee
18:26 Cprossu_Laptop damn
18:26 Cprossu_Laptop fail enter
18:26 LeadHead1 Oh lawed, I love the top news stories on Yahoo
18:26 Nazca don't talk to me about IP addresses ... I'm waiting for the internet to suddenly go batshit when they realise there aren't any more to assign
18:26 LeadHead1 "Mom gives 8-year-old Botox to win pagiant"
18:26 LeadHead1 Nazca: The last IPV4 block has already been assigned
18:26 LeadHead1 months ago afaik
18:27 Nazca not exactly
18:27 LeadHead1 Well its been assigned/allocated
18:27 LeadHead1 not necessarily
18:27 Cprossu_Laptop Just remember always ask the host computer Does He See Pee?
18:27 LeadHead1 all the IPs within are being used
18:27 Nazca the last IPV4 /8s were assigned to the RIRs months ago
18:27 Cprossu_Laptop LeadHead1: they are all allocated, they are not all being used
18:27 Cprossu_Laptop xP
18:27 LeadHead1 Isn't that what I just said
18:27 LeadHead1 :-O
18:27 Cprossu_Laptop no
18:28 Nazca ARIN are pretty much out
18:28 LeadHead1 "2:27:20 PM) LeadHead1: Well its been assigned/allocated
18:28 LeadHead1 (2:27:22 PM) LeadHead1: not necessarily
18:28 LeadHead1 (2:27:26 PM) Cprossu_Laptop: Just remember always ask the host computer Does He See Pee?
18:28 LeadHead1 (2:27:28 PM) LeadHead1: all the IPs within are being used"
18:28 Sasha btw, with the IPV6 addresses, you'll no longer be able to like memorize them easily...
18:28 Cprossu_Laptop how did I type n instead of l
18:28 Cprossu_Laptop errr
18:28 Cprossu_Laptop whatever
18:28 Cprossu_Laptop hello tggmc1
18:28 Cprossu_Laptop I'm horribly surprised!
18:29 mashpriborintorg omg apocalypse
18:29 Nazca RIPE and ... I forget the US one... won't make it to the end of the year I think
18:29 Cprossu_Laptop good deal
18:29 LeadHead1 Sasha: Are you telling me you can't easily remember 32 hexadecimal digits?
18:29 Nazca Africa is fine
18:29 LeadHead1 and you call yourself a geek...
18:29 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: PROCRASTINATOR on HELP! PLZ check my CAP BANK math....
18:29 mashpriborintorg I send a parcel too may arrive soon
18:29 Cprossu_Laptop theres at least 2 goodies for the stream, tggmc1
18:29 Cprossu_Laptop I'll let them be surprises
18:29 Nazca you can't remember 2001:1009:0fa::dead:beaf:cafe?
18:30 Sasha Nope
18:30 MadManMarkAu dead:beaf:cafe, lol
18:30 LeadHead1 Gonna say that IPV6 was a tad overkill
18:30 LeadHead1 But then again, when they drafted IPV4, they probably thought that was overkill as well
18:30 Nazca realistically you only need to remember the second and third quads
18:30 Cprossu_Laptop did they ever make it routable?
18:30 Nazca the first is probably going to be the same for a long time
18:31 Cprossu_Laptop ~probably not
18:31 Cprossu_Laptop there's a lot of work
18:31 Nazca the last 64 typically collapses to 2 or 3 numbers and that's it
18:31 Nazca routable?
18:31 Cprossu_Laptop to get those 'parts' in use
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18:31 Sasha Good point. But then they'll probs be allocated...
18:31 Cprossu_Laptop I don't know if you have enough to make it all work
18:31 mashpriborintorg Same thing for the contents of my parcel, Cprossu_Laptop but it will rather be for chris doing video with the macroscopic cam
18:31 Nazca IPv6 works just fine
18:31 Cprossu_Laptop I sent all I could in that package but I may have to send more
18:32 Cprossu_Laptop it's packed rather...densely
18:32 mashpriborintorg I was limited to 2 kilos in weight, in order to keep affordable shipping price
18:32 Cprossu_Laptop only way I coulda made it heavier is if I packed lead bricks or solid pieces of steel
18:32 Nazca chat.freenode.net - 2001:6b0:5:1688::10
18:32 mashpriborintorg so I made a very small parcel :'(
18:32 Cprossu_Laptop .c 18lbs to kg
18:32 BotSteve 8.16466266 kilograms
18:32 Nazca I have native IPv6 at home, at work and to my server ^_^
18:33 Cprossu_Laptop ^ in a large 'flat rate box'
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18:33 hubzcaps <seaweed
18:33 LeadHead1 still running on IPv4 here
18:33 Sasha Same
18:33 hubzcaps ???
18:33 hubzcaps 6 here
18:33 hubzcaps grrrr
18:33 LeadHead1 I've noticed that same computers have both an IPv4 and IPv6 address
18:33 LeadHead1 how does that work
18:33 Nazca dual stack
18:33 Nazca want the long answer?
18:33 LeadHead1 I want
18:33 LeadHead1 what's the purpose answer
18:34 hubzcaps fiber optics kick ass
18:34 Cprossu_Laptop 12" x 12" x 5 1/2" at ~18lbs
18:34 Nazca basically the ethernet frame specifies the protocol needed ... that includes ipv4 and ipv6 as options
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18:34 hubzcaps imagine having fiber to the home but it was multiplexed like 6 times...hella faST net
18:34 Cprossu_Laptop .c 12" to cm
18:34 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
18:34 Cprossu_Laptop .c 12in to cm
18:34 BotSteve 30.48 centimeters
18:35 Nazca that determines which networking stack processes the packet
18:35 Cprossu_Laptop .c 5.5in to cm
18:35 BotSteve 13.97 centimeters
18:35 LeadHead1 Oh
18:35 hubzcaps T1
18:35 Nazca for out going packets, dual stack will send it out through the routing tables of the native protocol
18:35 LeadHead1 and is there some
18:36 Cprossu_Laptop so 30.48x30.48x13.97, 8.165 KG, does that put it into perspective for the metric people?
18:36 hubzcaps metricated
18:36 Cprossu_Laptop no space in the box
18:36 Sasha Guys, metric is sooo much better than inches...
18:36 LeadHead1 Say you have a connection that is IPv6 only, how does talk to something thats IPv4
18:36 Cprossu_Laptop only thing I put in for padding was a microfiber cloth
18:36 Nazca for ipv6 only there are options to allow it to talk to ipv4 only hosts... usually via a gateway that is dual stack
18:37 Cprossu_Laptop a crappy chinese polyester microfiber cloth
18:37 Nazca you can also directly convert an ipv4 address to an ipv6 address, if you want to talk to a dual stack machine
18:37 Nazca ipv4 to ipv6 you're screwed
18:37 Cprossu_Laptop either way I don't care, there is no pure ipv6 yet
18:37 Cprossu_Laptop you'll go through a translator system at some point
18:37 Nazca :ffff::127.0.0.1
18:37 Nazca sure there is pure ipv6
18:38 Cprossu_Laptop not if you connect to the internet
18:38 LeadHead1 It will be years, probably decades before every single thing on the 'tubes is on IPv6
18:38 Cprossu_Laptop or people will give it up because it's messy
18:38 Cprossu_Laptop and start a new internet
18:38 Nazca I can turn off ipv4 at my router and still talk to places
18:39 Nazca no, they can't give it up
18:39 Cprossu_Laptop it depends on how fucked things get
18:39 Nazca internet simply can't survive on ipv4
18:39 Cprossu_Laptop and?
18:39 Cprossu_Laptop that will stop another internet from forming using ancient technology how?
18:40 Nazca seriously?  there are a number of reasons that just won't happen
18:40 Cprossu_Laptop name one?
18:40 Nazca it's been tried and there's no adoption for it
18:40 Cprossu_Laptop I'm saying ipv6 might give the reason for adoption
18:40 LeadHead1 Still nuts that 999 billion adresses are close to being used up
18:41 Nazca there are a number of private global networks, but they just don't work because you can't talk to the rest of the work on them
18:41 Nazca LeadHead1: 4 billion less the massive chunks of unallocatable space
18:41 Cprossu_Laptop I'll bet money that at least 1/8 of those addresses are either not in use or are in a 'zombie' state untended to
18:41 LeadHead1 Oh
18:41 Nazca certainly there are
18:42 Nazca there's a whole ton in 127.0.0.0/8 and 10.0.0.0/8 that can't be used
18:42 Cprossu_Laptop I don't see ipv6 with it's current flaws propagating to at least the most hardcore geeks
18:42 Cprossu_Laptop and 192.x.x.x too
18:42 Nazca 192.168.0.0/16
18:42 Cprossu_Laptop 168
18:42 Cprossu_Laptop either way
18:42 Nazca 172.... I can never remember that one, no one really uses it much
18:43 Cprossu_Laptop (class a, b, c, whatever)
18:43 Cprossu_Laptop 172.16 I've used a ton
18:43 Nazca there's link local addresses that take a whack some where around 169
18:43 Nazca that's it
18:43 Cprossu_Laptop and of course broadcasts and .255's at places
18:43 Nazca most use 10 for big networks or 192.168 for home use
18:43 Nazca yea, .0 and .255 is out
18:44 Nazca then there's the multicast stuff up in the 244.0.0.0/8 area
18:44 Cprossu_Laptop and whatever is taken by poorly setup switches
18:44 Cprossu_Laptop but let's be real
18:44 Cprossu_Laptop ipv4 with the proper routing, nat, and vlan configs
18:44 Cprossu_Laptop would take care of everyone
18:44 Nazca with all the cidr that's been used, every cidr on a big network eats 3 ips of it
18:44 Nazca no, nat is not a solution
18:45 Nazca nat is evil and should die a painful death
18:45 Cprossu_Laptop neither is taking 1/2 of the physical adress and dumping it on the beginning
18:45 Cprossu_Laptop think of it from a security standpoint
18:45 Cprossu_Laptop mac's are usually sequential on business machines
18:45 Cprossu_Laptop when bought in quantity
18:45 Cprossu_Laptop I find out one I have a range
18:46 Nazca you mean ipv6?  there is no way in hell you can possibly run out ever
18:46 Cprossu_Laptop and because of ipv6 I can attack them individually
18:46 Cprossu_Laptop compromise one I get the whole deck
18:46 Nazca actually they're not, and there are ways around it
18:46 Cprossu_Laptop what I am saying
18:47 Cprossu_Laptop is ipv6 has inherant flaws
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18:47 Cprossu_Laptop and I don't like them =P
18:47 Cprossu_Laptop Ipv4's flaws are fun and you can do some neat things using the flaws
18:47 Nazca we regularly buy a stack of 10 motherboards, and I can be reasonably sure that other than the chips on a single board, the boards won't be sequential
18:48 Cprossu_Laptop I'm talking buying from dell
18:48 Cprossu_Laptop which most companies do
18:48 Cprossu_Laptop same with HP
18:48 Nazca yeah, we do that too
18:48 Cprossu_Laptop if they came from a factory
18:48 Cprossu_Laptop they are usually 1 or 2 off in mac
18:48 Cprossu_Laptop when we buy like 50 at a shot
18:49 Nazca sometimes, sometimes they're far off, it's weird
18:49 Cprossu_Laptop still I am saying there's issues with using physical:logical and it being clear what is what
18:49 Cprossu_Laptop all of a sudden it's much easier to trace traffic
18:49 Nazca at least you can't scan the entire ip range
18:50 Cprossu_Laptop you can tell the computer's likely hardware config
18:50 Nazca there is no rule that says you have to use the mac address for the 64bit machine ident
18:50 Cprossu_Laptop just by that portion of mac
18:50 Nazca it's just the stateless that does
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18:51 LeadHead1 It's not like MAC addresses matter much more, especially with boards with intergrated ethernet controller
18:51 LeadHead1 many of them have fully configurable mac addresses
18:52 Nazca I suspect any modern machine can have it's mac overridden with a little patience
18:52 Cprossu_Laptop Nazca: then with that capability
18:52 Cprossu_Laptop I can pretend to be on the other side of the network with ipv6
18:53 Nazca ipv6 does not depend on macs in that way
18:53 Cprossu_Laptop but it's harder to override hard burned macs
18:53 Cprossu_Laptop the early protocol did when I reviewed the ieee docs about it
18:53 Cprossu_Laptop I bet it's changed a bit
18:53 Cprossu_Laptop but it left a foul taste in my mouth
18:53 Nazca there is absolutely no reason you can't set any ipv6 address you like to your nic
18:54 Nazca some people use sequential, some people use random, some people use mac based... it's all user choice
18:54 Cprossu_Laptop I'll probably run spoofed or mirrored addy's if it comes to that
18:54 LeadHead1 There are actually software utilities for some chipsets that allow you to change MAC, others can be changed in BIOS
18:55 LeadHead1 people like to think MACs are still hardware locked and set at the factory
18:55 Cprossu_Laptop yeah true
18:55 Cprossu_Laptop (damn you intel)
18:55 Cprossu_Laptop it would be nice if they were still hard burned
18:55 Cprossu_Laptop because that really fucked things up on the wireless when they didn't do that
18:56 Cprossu_Laptop yay for flash based macs on most wireless cards!
18:56 LeadHead1 makes MAC filtering on wireless routers
18:56 Cprossu_Laptop or even driver initiated macs
18:56 LeadHead1 all but worthless
18:56 Cprossu_Laptop mostly worthless
18:56 Nazca mac addresses matter nothing beyond your border router
18:56 Cprossu_Laptop What ever happened to the company that promised a RF signature pattern matcher?
18:56 Cprossu_Laptop that was a cool idea
18:57 Cprossu_Laptop Mac + RF transmitter signature pattern
18:57 Cprossu_Laptop I'm trying to remember the company I talked to that worked on it
18:57 Cprossu_Laptop but it's not coming to me
18:57 Cprossu_Laptop =(
18:57 Nazca mac addresses are solely for the purpose of identifying the physical link that receives a packet
18:58 Cprossu_Laptop IP is still young yet, they had a much more important purpose before then
18:58 Cprossu_Laptop back when we ran physical layer network drivers
18:59 LeadHead1 Personally, for maximum security I use punch-cards and specially bread cloaked carrier-pidgeons
18:59 Nazca they don't related to IP, they're ethernet only
18:59 LeadHead1 *bred
18:59 Nazca Media Access Control :)
18:59 Cprossu_Laptop and truthfully IPX/SPX relates more to IPv6 than IPv4 does
19:00 LeadHead1 We had a homing pidgeon actually land inside our barn once
19:00 Nazca mac is to ethernet what ip address is to ip and port is to tcp
19:00 LeadHead1 had a metal tag on its leg with some information, turns out it was part of some club that had homing pidgeon flying competitions
19:00 LeadHead1 and it said if they land in your yard for whatever reason, give them some water and they'll leave when they're ready
19:01 Cprossu_Laptop Nazca: do your research on old netware configs
19:01 Cprossu_Laptop lol neat, LeadHead1
19:01 LeadHead1 Well I'm off, I have a date with a plasma cutter and some rusty floorboards
19:01 Cprossu_Laptop nice
19:01 Nazca you mean novel netware?
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19:02 Cprossu_Laptop Nazca: yes before IP...
19:02 Cprossu_Laptop like I said, IP is young =P
19:02 Cprossu_Laptop the physical address had more to do than you think it does/did/etc
19:03 Cprossu_Laptop hence IPX/SPX
19:03 Cprossu_Laptop .wa IPX/SPX
19:03 Nazca uh, netware is application layer... it's a bloody OS
19:03 BotSteve Impax  (IPX) -> SPX Corporation  (SPW);IPX->&pound;0.63 ($1.02) (IPX->London Stock Exchange->May 13, 2011), SPW->$81.50 (SPW->NYSE->3:59:54 pm EDT->23 hrs 4 mins ago);market cap->$4.16 billion, revenue->$5.000 billion, employees->15500, revenue \/ employee->$322600, net income->$206.6 million, shares outstanding->51 million, annual earnings \/ share->$4.15, P\/E ratio->19.66, annual dividends \/ share->$1.00, dividend
19:03 Cprossu_Laptop no
19:03 Nazca near enough
19:03 Cprossu_Laptop damn
19:03 Cprossu_Laptop Nazca: it operates on layers 3 and 4 iirc
19:04 Cprossu_Laptop I can hear you
19:04 mashpriborintorg Hi
19:04 Cprossu_Laptop yeah
19:04 Cprossu_Laptop sure am
19:04 Cprossu_Laptop yeah a tightly packed one
19:04 Cprossu_Laptop last 3 days
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19:05 Cprossu_Laptop livestream for the win though
19:05 Cprossu_Laptop blank!
19:05 Cprossu_Laptop we back
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19:07 Cprossu_Laptop Quad Core phenom 9750
19:07 Nazca no, see Ethernet and it's MAC addresses are layer 2; IPX and IP are layer 3;  SPX, TCP, UDP are layer 4
19:07 Cprossu_Laptop yes
19:07 Cprossu_Laptop it works
19:07 Cprossu_Laptop it's there
19:07 Nazca netware originally is an OS
19:07 Cprossu_Laptop beats me I think it's a TBI injector
19:07 Nazca with some network services built in
19:07 Cprossu_Laptop yeah
19:08 Nazca it communicates over IPX/SPX
19:08 Cprossu_Laptop MFM controller, 8 bit
19:08 Cprossu_Laptop that works
19:08 Cprossu_Laptop oddly enough
19:08 Cprossu_Laptop Western digital
19:08 Nazca a lot of older games also use IPX/SPX, makes them a bugger to play over WANs
19:08 Cprossu_Laptop Conner 170?
19:08 Cprossu_Laptop dead drives there
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19:09 Cprossu_Laptop IBM WD25
19:09 Cprossu_Laptop Seagate ST-251
19:09 Cprossu_Laptop shake the st-251
19:09 Cprossu_Laptop listen to it
19:09 Cprossu_Laptop I think those are the heads
19:09 Nazca I think I have some 200MB drives hiding at my parents
19:10 Druidic_Rifleman worst day for a picknick ever
19:10 Nazca Druidic_Rifleman: it was pissing it down here earlier
19:10 Cprossu_Laptop not too bad, huh?
19:10 Druidic_Rifleman yeah
19:10 zimm hello from sweden :P
19:10 Druidic_Rifleman the fog was so thick i couldn't see past 100 yards
19:11 Cprossu_Laptop no prob
19:11 Cprossu_Laptop cprossu you got it
19:11 Cprossu_Laptop see pross you
19:11 Cprossu_Laptop no prob, enjoy them
19:11 Cprossu_Laptop the WD25 might
19:11 Cprossu_Laptop the st-251 won't
19:11 Druidic_Rifleman tggmc1 did my box of goodies arive
19:11 Druidic_Rifleman ....
19:11 Cprossu_Laptop just packing
19:11 Cprossu_Laptop microfiber
19:12 Cprossu_Laptop cheap one
19:12 Nazca play tug of war with omni!
19:12 Cprossu_Laptop I didn't want the motherboard being messed up!
19:12 Druidic_Rifleman "wow your dumb' Chris evey one knows that about cory
19:12 Cprossu_Laptop so I'm glad it all made it there on their respective pieces
19:12 Cprossu_Laptop he was playing all morning
19:13 Cprossu_Laptop I looked for those
19:13 Cprossu_Laptop couldn't find them
19:13 Cprossu_Laptop =(
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19:13 Cprossu_Laptop so I sent 2 mfm drives instead heh
19:13 Nazca Chris, remember the XKCD "Compiling!" chair fight one?
19:13 Cprossu_Laptop anyway be sure to plug the ST-251 into power
19:13 Cprossu_Laptop for epic noises
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19:14 Cprossu_Laptop anyway be sure to plug the ST-251 into power for epic noises
19:14 Big-Al_ $4 Corie 2 b 'cool' while traveling thru the Gallaxie
19:14 Druidic_Rifleman Cprossu_Laptop I am worried custems labled my package bomb
19:14 Druidic_Rifleman .... :(
19:15 exor674 well, was it?
19:15 Druidic_Rifleman Buy cory some soap?
19:15 Cprossu_Laptop yeah for the dvr
19:15 Cprossu_Laptop you know I think
19:15 Cprossu_Laptop you can use a sata-ide bridge
19:15 Cprossu_Laptop but I'd need to see the inside
19:15 Cprossu_Laptop to make that determination
19:15 Nazca open it up and see if it has pci slots free
19:15 Nazca buy a sata pci card
19:15 Nazca win
19:16 Cprossu_Laptop If we could use some sata drives it would be nice.. the adaptors are like $20 a pop
19:16 Cprossu_Laptop no it doesn't lol
19:16 Cprossu_Laptop but we can use a sata bridge
19:16 Cprossu_Laptop I just think we have to swap out the hdd carriers though
19:16 Nazca oh, real dvr? shiny
19:16 Druidic_Rifleman tggmc1 Did you even get those Gaphics cards?
19:17 Cprossu_Laptop it has to be reliable lol
19:17 Nazca looked like a normal box from this angle
19:17 Cprossu_Laptop ok
19:17 Cprossu_Laptop yeah but the sleds connect to an IDE ribbon
19:17 Nazca it's like a hot swap bay?
19:17 Cprossu_Laptop yeah it is
19:17 Cprossu_Laptop sorta
19:18 Druidic_Rifleman ???
19:18 Cprossu_Laptop bit they are still 5 1/4 bays attached to a ide ribbon
19:18 * Druidic_Rifleman is gonna assume A custems agent stole those video card
19:18 Cprossu_Laptop I bet $100 on it
19:18 Nazca I've got some crap old scsi bays like that
19:18 Cprossu_Laptop yeah I do too
19:18 Druidic_Rifleman brb
19:19 Cprossu_Laptop but yeah the bays would have to go to use the bridges
19:19 Nazca they probably are ide ribbon backed, but the power is probably an issue
19:19 Cprossu_Laptop why?
19:19 Cprossu_Laptop 2tb 5900rpm drives don't take much power
19:19 Big-Al_ 1
19:19 Cprossu_Laptop nor do the 1tbers
19:19 Nazca it won't be a normal molex, and I'm guessing they don't want to much around building a converter
19:19 Cprossu_Laptop it's molex
19:19 Big-Al_ makes saddy dad !
19:19 Big-Al_ 1
19:19 Cprossu_Laptop guaranteed
19:20 Nazca depends what architecture it's built off
19:21 Cprossu_Laptop http://complusa.com/store/images/BEI-SI-1032A-soft.jpg
19:21 Nazca it could well be an entirely custom chipset, or something built for embedded work
19:21 Cprossu_Laptop ^ this is what we are dealing with
19:21 Cprossu_Laptop http://complusa.com/store/images/BEI-SI-1032A-soft.jpg
19:22 Cprossu_Laptop see the molex and ide on the back?
19:22 Cprossu_Laptop the cheapo dvr was still made with some off the shelf parts
19:22 Cprossu_Laptop these being one of them
19:22 Nazca are you sure? that looks way too much like a normal 5.25 caddy
19:23 Cprossu_Laptop they are normal caddies
19:23 Cprossu_Laptop for 3 1/2 drives
19:23 Cprossu_Laptop ide
19:23 Cprossu_Laptop http://complusa.com/store/images/BEI-SI-1032A-soft.jpg
19:23 Cprossu_Laptop ^ these are close
19:23 Nazca see? :P
19:23 Nazca what's the model again?
19:23 Cprossu_Laptop yeah but they still have an IDE ribbon on the inside right?
19:24 Cprossu_Laptop as in inside the DVR itelf
19:24 Cprossu_Laptop steve??? you still there?
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19:24 Cprossu_Laptop guess not =(
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19:25 Nazca yeah, it probably has an IDE cable in it, but the power to the back plane could be anything
19:25 Cprossu_KF7POU my bet is molex
19:26 Cprossu_KF7POU $100 of internet money that it's molex
19:26 Nazca depends how much of a dick they were being and thus if they wanted it to be swappable with parts from other people
19:27 Cprossu_KF7POU SuperCircuits DMR1
19:27 Cprossu_KF7POU ^ enjoy googling for science
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19:30 Cprossu_KF7POU Did you guys ever take the lid off the DMR1?
19:31 Cprossu_KF7POU also dmr1's aren't $20 on ebay =(
19:32 Cprossu_KF7POU I'd totally get one if they were
19:33 Cprossu_KF7POU $150 isn't worth my time to prove you can use cheaper drives in it with sata bridges
19:34 Cprossu_KF7POU I used http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812816113&amp;cm_re=Sata_TO_IDE-_-12-816-113-_-Product <-one of these for a tivo
19:36 Cprossu_KF7POU I don't know if these go both ways http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812270269&amp;cm_re=Sata_TO_IDE-_-12-270-269-_-Product but the previous one I mentioned did
19:39 MadManMarkAu What's Steve up to?
19:39 Cprossu_KF7POU messing with video amps I think
19:39 MadManMarkAu Ah, that'd explain the black screen I'm getting now :P
19:40 hubzcaps pooched video adapter
19:41 Cprossu_KF7POU hubzcaps: in your laptop??
19:42 Cprossu_KF7POU hubzcaps: why the random statement without setup?
19:42 hubzcaps nope
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19:42 hubzcaps i gots a nforce 4 chipset
19:42 hubzcaps im good
19:42 hubzcaps 2.5 ghz dual core lappy
19:43 Cprossu_KF7POU so why did you say "[12:41] <hubzcaps> pooched video adapter" just now?
19:44 hubzcaps im working on a old mobo with an old matrox card...its all screwed up
19:44 hubzcaps works fine with 2 other v cards
19:44 hubzcaps agp 4 x
19:44 hubzcaps lol
19:44 Cprossu_KF7POU Matrox G200 then?
19:44 Cprossu_KF7POU just curious
19:44 hubzcaps yupp
19:44 Cprossu_KF7POU pity, that was a nice card
19:45 hubzcaps it had been bounceing around my desk drawer for years
19:45 Cprossu_KF7POU does yours have the expanded memory module?
19:45 Cprossu_KF7POU or was it an integrated one?
19:45 hubzcaps yup the lil square that goes on the back
19:46 hubzcaps over the mem chips
19:46 hubzcaps i think its like 8 mb or 16 cant remember
19:46 Cprossu_KF7POU try removing it?
19:46 hubzcaps yhea its the gpu...fizzzzzzzukd
19:47 Cprossu_KF7POU =(
19:47 hubzcaps or some kind of control chip
19:47 Cprossu_KF7POU pity
19:47 Cprossu_KF7POU either way not worth your time
19:47 Cprossu_KF7POU I have a shit ton of matrox millenium pci's
19:47 hubzcaps the output looks like a cracked lcd panel
19:47 hubzcaps lollz
19:47 hubzcaps love that pci v card mmmhmmm
19:47 MadManMarkAu Dammit, I could have an entire conversation with an Ent in the time it takes this installer to boot from USB...
19:47 Cprossu_KF7POU they are as tough as vid cards come
19:48 Cprossu_KF7POU like the Adaptec 2940UW was as tough as scsi adaptors came
19:48 hubzcaps the nvidia 5500  i think was the most powerfull dual gpu pci  card around
19:48 Cprossu_KF7POU o_O the 5500 wasn't dual gpu was it?
19:48 hubzcaps had 2 fanz!
19:49 Cprossu_KF7POU doesn't mean dual gpu
19:49 hubzcaps correct
19:49 hubzcaps i never looked under there
19:49 Cprossu_KF7POU I had a max fury!
19:49 Cprossu_KF7POU and a Voodoo5 5500!
19:49 Cprossu_KF7POU I still have the v5500 agp though
19:49 hubzcaps 147mhz core clock....on that pci card...nice
19:50 Cprossu_KF7POU http://hothardware.com/reviews/images/3dfxV5NY/V5onblack.jpg
19:50 Cprossu_KF7POU xD
19:50 hubzcaps yhea the voodoo 5 was the one i was thinkin of
19:50 hubzcaps badass pci card
19:50 hubzcaps mhhhmmm
19:50 Cprossu_KF7POU 166mhz on those I thought
19:50 Cprossu_KF7POU vsa100's?
19:51 hubzcaps i would screw with the timeings and PLL on that card alot
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19:51 Cprossu_KF7POU RAGE FURY ...MAXX!
19:51 Cprossu_KF7POU http://hothardware.com/reviews/images/MAXX/rage_fury_maxx_board.jpg
19:51 Cprossu_KF7POU man that was a shittily supported card
19:51 hubzcaps hahahah
19:51 Cprossu_KF7POU I still have one though
19:51 hubzcaps i had the long ass agp ATI rage pro 4x   haha ig card man
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19:52 Cprossu_KF7POU you want to talk long cards?! I have a chips and technologies full length 8bit ISA VGA
19:52 Druidic_Rifleman OK is it Acceptible to right a wiki article about your self...
19:52 Druidic_Rifleman write*
19:52 hubzcaps lol
19:52 hubzcaps ooooo picture of it plzzzzz
19:53 hubzcaps my old ISA soundblaster waslong ass card 2  whew
19:53 Cprossu_KF7POU http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2817/dsc09211z.jpg
19:53 Cprossu_KF7POU found one
19:53 hubzcaps had simm slots for memory expansion ahhahaha
19:53 Cprossu_KF7POU makes using my old computers easy I might mention
19:53 hubzcaps yhea wow thats long
19:54 Cprossu_KF7POU full length
19:54 Cprossu_KF7POU Hackbat: you might enjoy this one
19:54 Cprossu_KF7POU http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2817/dsc09211z.jpg
19:54 Cprossu_KF7POU hello tggmc1
19:54 hubzcaps dip switches on it
19:54 hubzcaps hahahaha
19:54 mashpriborintorg hello visitors
19:54 Hackbat nice
19:55 Cprossu_KF7POU random!?
19:55 Cprossu_KF7POU lol I thought it was well thought out!
19:56 Cprossu_KF7POU hubzcaps: the dip switches are for color and colum count and resolution
19:56 Cprossu_KF7POU column
19:56 Cprossu_KF7POU and multisync operation
19:56 hubzcaps way coool hardware stuff..instead of software switching aaahhahah  priceless
19:56 Cprossu_KF7POU (remember old monitors would overheat if pushed)
19:56 hubzcaps yes
19:57 Cprossu_KF7POU I remember there was an early windows virus
19:57 Cprossu_KF7POU that would overdrive the CRT
19:57 hubzcaps 40/80 monitor for my c64 used to heat up nice
19:57 Cprossu_KF7POU and it caused at least 2 fires
19:57 hubzcaps nice
19:57 hubzcaps member those old green screen monitors u saw at librarys hahah
19:57 hubzcaps neat
19:58 Cprossu_KF7POU I have a few still
19:58 Cprossu_KF7POU I prefer amber and black and white though
19:58 hubzcaps cga
19:58 hubzcaps haha
19:58 Cprossu_KF7POU I had an IBM EGA and a CGA
19:58 Cprossu_KF7POU they were like 12"
19:58 Cprossu_KF7POU and the EGA....
19:58 Cprossu_KF7POU was a widowmaker
19:59 Cprossu_KF7POU http://www.nadbor.pwr.wroc.pl/yesterpc/Hardware/IBM%205154/item.htm
19:59 Cprossu_KF7POU ^ EGA ibm
20:00 Cprossu_KF7POU http://www.myoldcomputers.com/museum/perif/pics/5153.jpg
20:00 Cprossu_KF7POU ^CGA IBM
20:01 Cprossu_KF7POU the cga was like 40lbs the ega must have weighed at least 60 from my memory
20:01 Druidic_Rifleman botsteve: tell CSMonster Is this the same motor she was talking about http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1335629
20:02 BotSteve Druidic_Rifleman: I'll pass that on when CSMonster is around.
20:02 Cprossu_KF7POU 2 unhappy customers lol
20:02 hubzcaps i wonder if there are health issues with sitting infront of a crt???
20:02 Cprossu_KF7POU depends on the CRT
20:03 Cprossu_KF7POU for me it's the only sun I get
20:03 hubzcaps lol
20:04 speedrunnerG55 HI hubzcaps
20:04 hubzcaps wuttup
20:04 Cprossu_KF7POU oh steve, the mfm controller goes with the IBM WD25 big ass drive, and I know the controller works and the drive works and with enough fiddling you should get an OS to take.
20:05 Nazca puppy linux?
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20:06 hubzcaps i saw this massive hdd once single platter it was a 14 inch platter!!!  voice coil and had 50mb    it took quite a while to hit 4500 rpm
20:06 hubzcaps 4200 rpm
20:06 hubzcaps lol
20:08 Cprossu_KF7POU CaptainBoden: as far as I know, the WD25 functions, the MFM controller(A western digital functions) and is an 8 bit which means you can put it in an 8088. A low level format is probably in order, boot the computer off a dos floppy, then use the debug command. Type "g=c800:5" without the quotes and what will pull up is the WD firmware on the controller which should allow you to hit the low level format... after that, use fdisk to p
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20:09 Cprossu_KF7POU CaptainBoden: further more the st-251 is junk and prime autopsy material, and make sure to power it up a few times for fun
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20:15 Seroster Anything fun?
20:17 Cprossu_KF7POU sure just read your log
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20:18 Cprossu_KF7POU good afternoon, tgg_Liz
20:18 mashpriborintorg it's a Liz
20:18 tgg_Liz hello cprossu
20:18 tgg_Liz and mashpriborintorg
20:18 Cprossu_KF7POU glad the box o' stuff made it there unscathed =)
20:20 Cprossu_KF7POU tggmc1: sorry I was unable to pack a case, power supply, and graphics with that motherboard
20:20 Cprossu_KF7POU they need to make some bigger flat rate boxes xD
20:23 mashpriborintorg flat rate shipping containers should be pretty usefull, btw XD
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20:23 mashpriborintorg hi wannabe1987
20:23 * wannabe1987 had fun at the parade...
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20:24 wannabe1987 hi mashpriborintorg
20:25 wannabe1987 ...they left me here
20:26 speedrunnerG55 Hi wannabe
20:27 wannabe1987 o hai speedrunnerG55
20:27 speedrunnerG55 ...brb
20:28 Cprossu_KF7POU for those here who missed it in my box-o-junk was a heavy duty Porta brace strap, a Phenom 9750 with a motherboard/2gb of ram and a heatsink (hoping it works with the blackmagic intensity), a IBM WD25 20mb mfm hdd, a 42mb Seagate ST-251(pooched), a 8 bit MFM controller card, a conner 170 meg 3.5" drive (pooched), a old toshiba IDE hard drive (also pooched), a TBI Fuel injector(wtf did I throw that in there?), and a microfiber towe
20:28 Druidic_Rifleman hey tgg_Liz
20:28 tgg_Liz hi druidic
20:28 speedrunnerG55 Back
20:30 Druidic_Rifleman Guess what i got to do with my Sp10 marine raider bowie knife>
20:30 Druidic_Rifleman ?
20:30 Cprossu_KF7POU gut a fish?
20:30 Druidic_Rifleman nope
20:30 Cprossu_KF7POU stab yourself in the hand?
20:30 Druidic_Rifleman nope
20:30 Cprossu_KF7POU stab yourself in the leg?
20:31 Druidic_Rifleman Nope
20:31 Nazca stab someone else in the hand?
20:31 Druidic_Rifleman I have no bowie knife shaped holes in me
20:31 Druidic_Rifleman and nope
20:31 Cprossu_KF7POU stab a watermelon... in the leg
20:31 Druidic_Rifleman lol Nopr
20:31 Cprossu_KF7POU who cares then?
20:31 Nazca stab someone else in the watermelon?
20:32 Druidic_Rifleman I gave someone birthday paddy wacks with it
20:32 Druidic_Rifleman Flat side
20:32 Druidic_Rifleman :P
20:32 Cprossu_KF7POU _leaves the potential jokes out of this_
20:38 wannabe1987 http://consumerist.com/2011/05/theres-a-new-kind-of-oreo-and-its-coming-for-your-face.html  om nom nom
20:38 Sasha Is that the tripple one?
20:38 Cprossu_KF7POU wait that's real?!
20:38 Cprossu_KF7POU face stab
20:39 wannabe1987 o shit...someone died at the race this am
20:39 Cprossu_KF7POU which race?
20:39 wannabe1987 5/3 river bank run
20:40 Cprossu_KF7POU that sucks
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20:43 LeadHead1 Well that didn't go so well
20:43 Cprossu_KF7POU what now?
20:43 wannabe1987 http://www.mlive.com/sports/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2011/05/racer_dies_after_collapsing_du.html
20:43 wannabe1987 25k, somoen collapsed, died :(
20:43 Cprossu_KF7POU http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/grand_rapids/police-53-river-bank-runner-dies
20:43 Nazca LeadHead1: remember, pillage /then/ burn
20:43 Cprossu_KF7POU ^ unhappy
20:44 wannabe1987 ...
20:44 wannabe1987 i know
20:44 wannabe1987 i know where that corner is. :P
20:44 LeadHead1 Air hose on that compressor decided it was not fit for this world
20:44 LeadHead1 There goes my plasma cutting
20:44 Cprossu_KF7POU awww
20:44 Cprossu_KF7POU what kinda cutter you have
20:45 Cprossu_KF7POU and do you have a harbor freight nearby? (lol)
20:45 LeadHead1 borrowing it from a friend
20:45 LeadHead1 its a Chinese Plasma/TIG/Stick thing
20:45 LeadHead1 inverter drive
20:45 Cprossu_KF7POU o_O
20:45 Cprossu_KF7POU what brand on it?
20:45 LeadHead1 It's a redbaged Arcsonic
20:45 Nazca there's a glitch on my circuit board, that sucks
20:46 LeadHead1 It's funny, it will put out nearly as much plasma cutting current as TGG's huge plasmacutter, and it weighs like 20 pounds
20:46 Cprossu_KF7POU lol the duty cyle on yours must suck
20:46 LeadHead1 nope
20:46 Cprossu_KF7POU I'd take that thermodynamics unit any second over that
20:47 Cprossu_KF7POU any second
20:47 Cprossu_KF7POU hell i'd take the cheapest hobart over that thing
20:47 LeadHead1 Eh, these chinese units are actually quite reliable, use heavy MOSFETs, etc..Their problems are mainly quality control
20:48 Druidic_Rifleman remember kids it's rape pillage then kill nor kill rap and pillage
20:48 Cprossu_KF7POU hrmmm
20:48 Cprossu_KF7POU .c 16mm to inch
20:48 BotSteve 0.62992126 inch
20:49 LeadHead1 This little thing can do 120 amps TIG/Stick current at 100% duty cycle (My buddies lincoln Tombstone AC225 can only do 75 amps continuous)
20:49 LeadHead1 and 200 amps @ 60%
20:49 Cprossu_KF7POU your specs say .62" max
20:49 Cprossu_KF7POU on the metal thickness
20:49 LeadHead1 huh
20:50 Cprossu_KF7POU on the arcsonic website for the combo unit
20:50 LeadHead1 damned if I know what it can cut
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20:52 LeadHead1 Alls I know is that for how small and light is
20:52 LeadHead1 it can kick out some serious power
20:52 * mashpriborintorg 11pm must go to bed
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20:55 Druidic_Rifleman ok i need something to drink
20:57 LeadHead1 Even look at inverter cutters from bigger names like Lincoln or Miller
20:57 LeadHead1 http://www.millerwelds.com/products/stick/product.php?model=M00142 This little guy, 150 amps of current
20:57 LeadHead1 13 pounds
20:59 Cprossu_KF7POU 9 Amps, 3 phase, 460V
20:59 Sasha Ok guys, g2g, I'll see you tmoz
20:59 Cprossu_KF7POU 100% duty cycle
21:00 LeadHead1 for what welder?
21:00 Cprossu_KF7POU for the plasma cutter
21:00 Cprossu_KF7POU that tgg has
21:00 Cprossu_KF7POU I'm trying to find a manual for it
21:00 LeadHead1 oh
21:01 Cprossu_KF7POU I don't think your little inverter system, as neat as it might be, would compare
21:01 Cprossu_KF7POU meaning the chinese one
21:01 LeadHead1 50 amps, 60% duty cycle
21:01 Cprossu_KF7POU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA4ZfvCrtbk&amp;feature=player_profilepage#t=141s
21:01 Cprossu_KF7POU at what voltage?
21:01 LeadHead1 Yes, I saw it
21:02 LeadHead1 50 amps output
21:02 LeadHead1 current
21:02 Cprossu_KF7POU oh ok
21:02 LeadHead1 cutting current
21:02 LeadHead1 input would be around 20 amps @ 230v
21:02 Cprossu_KF7POU gotta fund the cutting current for this sucker
21:02 Cprossu_KF7POU I think that part is just a module
21:02 LeadHead1 hmm?
21:03 Cprossu_KF7POU the pm6040 is the module for the stacking system
21:03 Cprossu_KF7POU that this series of units uses
21:04 Cprossu_KF7POU aka the module is the inverter
21:04 LeadHead1 stacking system?
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21:04 LeadHead1 I can tell you right now TGG's unit is not an inverter system.
21:05 Cprossu_KF7POU LeadHead1: http://www.cavlon.com/zcstore/images/6000/6049_03.jpg
21:05 Cprossu_KF7POU example of one
21:05 LeadHead1 Intersting
21:06 Cprossu_KF7POU http://www.cavlon.com/zcstore/images/6000/6047_04.jpg
21:07 Cprossu_KF7POU see the power modules in that?
21:07 LeadHead1 Yeah
21:07 Cprossu_KF7POU pm 6040
21:07 LeadHead1 TGG's unit doesn't resemble that
21:07 LeadHead1 at all
21:07 LeadHead1 iirc
21:08 Cprossu_KF7POU http://www.cavlon.com/zcstore/images/6000/6047_07.jpg
21:08 Cprossu_KF7POU we're looking at the power module from the back in the video
21:08 Cprossu_KF7POU see?
21:08 LeadHead1 Intersting
21:08 LeadHead1 I'm not familiar with Thermadyne systems
21:08 Cprossu_KF7POU http://www.cavlon.com/zcstore/images/6000/6047_06.jpg
21:09 Cprossu_KF7POU that's what I was getting at, from your comment
21:09 LeadHead1 9 amps @ 460v is around 4300 watts iirc
21:09 LeadHead1 typical plasma cutting voltage is 90-100 volts
21:09 LeadHead1 so
21:09 Cprossu_KF7POU 110V it looks like
21:10 LeadHead1 .c 9x460
21:10 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
21:10 LeadHead1 .c 9 x 460
21:10 BotSteve 4140
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21:10 LeadHead1 .c 4140 / 110
21:10 BotSteve 37.6363636
21:10 LeadHead1 Assuming the machine was 100% effecient
21:10 Hackbat >_> stupid Respirator
21:10 Cprossu_KF7POU aren't you forgetting something?
21:10 LeadHead1 what am I forgetting?
21:10 Hackbat 13. NO BEARDS
21:10 LeadHead1 oh wait, 3 phase?
21:11 Cprossu_KF7POU LeadHead1: lets' do the numbers with single phase
21:11 Cprossu_KF7POU yeah
21:11 LeadHead1 .c 9 x 1.6
21:11 BotSteve 14.4
21:11 LeadHead1 .c 14.4 x 460
21:11 BotSteve 6624
21:11 LeadHead1 .c 6624 / 110
21:11 BotSteve 60.2181818
21:11 LeadHead1 I believe 1.6 is the conversion factor?
21:11 LeadHead1 don't remember
21:12 LeadHead1 1.73
21:12 wannabe1987 HI BOTSTEVE!
21:12 BotSteve Salutations wannabe1987!
21:12 Cprossu_KF7POU tggmc1: you sound tired
21:12 Druidic_Rifleman burger :)
21:12 Cprossu_KF7POU is chris there?
21:13 LeadHead1 Yup, 1.73 is the conversion factor for calculating power
21:13 Cprossu_KF7POU we are arguing over the plasma cutter, he gave us the power module module number
21:13 LeadHead1 .c (460 x 9 x 1.73) / 110
21:13 BotSteve 65.1109091
21:13 Cprossu_KF7POU @ 100% duty cycle
21:13 LeadHead1 What's a reasonable effeciency for a machine of this type?
21:13 speedrunnerG55 .c pi
21:13 BotSteve 3.14159265
21:13 wannabe1987 o is that what you're going on about?  cuz i dont understand much here...
21:13 BatSteve-Away is now known as BatSteve
21:14 Cprossu_KF7POU wannabe1987: the geek group plasma cutter vs a chinese plasma cutter
21:14 LeadHead1 what?
21:14 BatSteve .c 25 km -> mile
21:14 BotSteve 15.5342798 mile
21:14 wannabe1987 chinese stuff is full of lead...
21:14 wannabe1987 :p
21:14 LeadHead1 Just by input power, TGG machine is much larger
21:14 LeadHead1 and has a higher duty cycle
21:14 LeadHead1 no arguing there...
21:14 BatSteve collapsed and died on a 15 mile run?  geez...
21:14 Cprossu_KF7POU as in you can cut on it all freaking day xD
21:14 LeadHead1 yes I know
21:14 wannabe1987 BatSteve yes...
21:14 LeadHead1 Welder/Plasma cutter duty cycle is x minutes out of 10
21:14 Cprossu_KF7POU probably do 1" thick no problem too
21:15 LeadHead1 60 amps can do 1"
21:15 LeadHead1 iirc.
21:15 speedrunnerG55 3.14159265358979 i beat BotSteve
21:15 LeadHead1 depends on machine too
21:15 BatSteve .seen Seroster
21:15 BotSteve BatSteve: I last saw seroster 1.00 hours ago at 2011-05-14 20:15:48 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 21:15:34 UTC
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21:15 Seroster ..
21:15 BatSteve Seroster: nothing's wrong with the bot
21:15 themirotv Hi Chris.
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21:16 wannabe1987 lol why would something be wrong w/ the bot
21:16 LeadHead1 http://www.thermadyne.com/thermaldynamics/products/detailProduct.html?prodID=1-1131-2
21:16 BatSteve Because he's not getting greetz when he logs in
21:16 speedrunnerG55 The bots evil
21:16 wannabe1987 lol
21:16 speedrunnerG55 Ye that too
21:16 LeadHead1 check that out
21:17 LeadHead1 assuming, that is about equivalent to TGG's in terms of output power
21:17 BatSteve Actually it's just that his greet chance has been reduced to one in three, and he hasn't been lucky yet.
21:17 LeadHead1 only weighs 40 pounds
21:17 Seroster O?
21:17 Cprossu_KF7POU hey tggmc1: we discovered the model # you gave us for the plasma cutter was just for the Power Module (hence PM-6040)
21:18 BatSteve Yeah
21:19 BatSteve so, I mean, you could /part/join until you saw it, if you wanted to check and see if it's working
21:19 LeadHead1 Cprossu_KF7POU: Going on that whole chinese quality control thing
21:19 Cprossu_KF7POU no kidding
21:19 LeadHead1 For example, the high-voltage/HF of the unit does not work
21:19 Cprossu_KF7POU oh you might laugh at this
21:19 LeadHead1 Why, I don't know
21:19 LeadHead1 so we had ti
21:19 LeadHead1 to
21:19 LeadHead1 ..improvise...
21:19 Cprossu_KF7POU Q) is anything at harbor freight not made in china?
21:20 LeadHead1 Yes
21:20 wannabe1987 lol
21:20 Cprossu_KF7POU A) what?
21:20 Cprossu_KF7POU I know of one thing so far
21:20 LeadHead1 I forgot what it was
21:20 LeadHead1 but I was surprised though
21:20 Cprossu_KF7POU yeah me and my auto teacher were too
21:20 Cprossu_KF7POU ready though?
21:20 LeadHead1 oh now I remember
21:20 LeadHead1 adjustable link v-belts
21:20 Cprossu_KF7POU where those made?
21:20 LeadHead1 USA
21:20 wannabe1987 whhich are?
21:20 Cprossu_KF7POU wow
21:21 Cprossu_KF7POU Mine is funnier though
21:21 Cprossu_KF7POU we were using some grinding discs
21:21 Cprossu_KF7POU and like "man these things are damn good"
21:21 Cprossu_KF7POU he says "I don't know why, I got em at harbor freight"
21:21 wannabe1987 lolololol
21:21 Cprossu_KF7POU guess where they were made?
21:21 LeadHead1 USA?
21:21 Cprossu_KF7POU this is a weird one
21:21 Cprossu_KF7POU nope
21:22 LeadHead1 Canada?
21:22 Cprossu_KF7POU nope
21:22 LeadHead1 Iceland
21:22 Cprossu_KF7POU nope
21:22 LeadHead1 Romania
21:22 Cprossu_KF7POU nope
21:22 LeadHead1 Georgia
21:22 Cprossu_KF7POU nope
21:22 LeadHead1 Pakistan
21:22 Cprossu_KF7POU nope
21:22 Cprossu_KF7POU although my jacket is
21:22 LeadHead1 Oh, don't tell me the french made it?
21:22 Cprossu_KF7POU no
21:22 LeadHead1 Mexico
21:22 Cprossu_KF7POU it wouldn't have been good if they had
21:22 Cprossu_KF7POU nope
21:23 Cprossu_KF7POU ....made in Russia o_O
21:23 LeadHead1 'If it was french, it would have broken apart at the thought of coming near a piece of steel
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21:23 Cprossu_KF7POU it vwas russian
21:23 LeadHead1 Do you remember what disc it was?
21:23 LeadHead1 Beacuse my buddy bought a bunch of HF cutting discs, and they sucked
21:24 LeadHead1 He got like 20 discs, and when those were up, he bought a pack of 5 norton cutting discs
21:24 Cprossu_KF7POU it was a 60 grit
21:24 LeadHead1 for about the same price
21:24 LeadHead1 and he was pissed off cause the nortons were so expensive
21:24 LeadHead1 except we found that each norton disc outlasted about 5 HF discs
21:25 Cprossu_KF7POU http://www.harborfreight.com/10-piece-4-1-2-half-inch-grinding-and-cutting-wheel-assortment-47572.html
21:25 Cprossu_KF7POU the blue one in the middle of that assortment I think
21:25 LeadHead1 http://www.harborfreight.com/vibration-free-link-belt-43771.html
21:25 Cprossu_KF7POU 60 grit flap disc
21:25 LeadHead1 Accu-Link makes their belts in the US
21:25 Cprossu_KF7POU fucking rocked
21:26 Cprossu_KF7POU you can make out made in russia on the blue ones to the left
21:26 Cprossu_KF7POU xD
21:27 Cprossu_KF7POU see it?
21:27 LeadHead1 Now that you think of it
21:27 LeadHead1 the HF cutting discs were made in russia
21:27 LeadHead1 and they sucked...
21:27 Cprossu_KF7POU hahaha
21:27 LeadHead1 Yeah they were made in russia
21:27 Cprossu_KF7POU well I can tell you the flap discs rock
21:27 LeadHead1 I remember looking at it and thinking wow its made in russia
21:28 LeadHead1 You should see this welder my friends uncle has
21:28 LeadHead1 giant miller thing
21:28 LeadHead1 It's a MIG welder
21:28 Cprossu_KF7POU I have 3 phase power at my house
21:28 Cprossu_KF7POU and the contact to an 800A lincoln 3 phase
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21:28 Cprossu_KF7POU xD
21:28 LeadHead1 It's a Miller Trailblazer
21:29 LeadHead1 gas powered thing
21:29 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Sparky Projects on HELP! PLZ check my CAP BANK math....
21:29 LeadHead1 It can mig weld
21:29 LeadHead1 usning 1/8" mig wire
21:30 LeadHead1 1/8"!!
21:30 BatSteve There is a barbecue tonight but all I want to do is play Far Cry 2.
21:30 BatSteve BotSteve: should I go to the barbecue?
21:30 * wannabe1987 got called a nerd last night because of zomb :D
21:30 BotSteve Definitely
21:30 BatSteve Well...can't argue with that.
21:30 Cprossu_KF7POU http://common2.csnimages.com/lf/2/hash/2376/3770909/1/Idealarc+DC-1000+230%2F460%2F3%2F60.jpg
21:30 Cprossu_KF7POU ^ it's like that one
21:30 Cprossu_KF7POU only 800 not 1000
21:30 LeadHead1 Big bruiser
21:30 LeadHead1 Normal mig wire is .035-.040
21:30 LeadHead1 This thing can use .125" mig wire
21:30 Cprossu_KF7POU that rarc unit
21:31 Cprossu_KF7POU *arc
21:31 Cprossu_KF7POU will weld.... really anything
21:31 LeadHead1 Yarh
21:31 Cprossu_KF7POU 2" boiler plate all day lol
21:31 Cprossu_KF7POU some big ass rod
21:32 Cprossu_KF7POU to do some of it
21:32 LeadHead1 Yarh
21:32 LeadHead1 wow
21:32 LeadHead1 The latest Lincoln Invertec inverter welders
21:33 LeadHead1 have updateable firmware and trouble codes
21:33 Cprossu_KF7POU you know I still want my old iron cores
21:33 LeadHead1 Wonder if its OBDII :-P
21:33 Cprossu_KF7POU there's nothing to go wrong
21:33 Cprossu_KF7POU and you get a real schematic
21:33 Cprossu_KF7POU the new ones often lack a good one =(
21:34 Cprossu_KF7POU I was fixing a dudes inverter unit
21:34 Cprossu_KF7POU and they SHAVED OFF
21:34 Cprossu_KF7POU the part numbers to the power transistors
21:34 Cprossu_KF7POU that really pissed me off
21:34 LeadHead1 Personally if I was given an inverter unit to fix
21:34 LeadHead1 I'd trash it
21:34 LeadHead1 unless it was something simple
21:34 Cprossu_KF7POU it was a very good unit
21:34 Cprossu_KF7POU and it was something simple
21:35 LeadHead1 What was it?
21:35 Cprossu_KF7POU and I found someone else who had one that didn't have shaved off part numbers
21:35 LeadHead1 (brand and problem)
21:35 Cprossu_KF7POU it was a 1-3 phase portable high amp square wave TIG/Stick unit
21:35 Cprossu_KF7POU it wasn't lincoln or miller
21:35 LeadHead1 oh
21:35 Cprossu_KF7POU but it was well made
21:35 LeadHead1 I know there is an Italian company that makes some good inverter unit
21:35 LeadHead1 forgot who though
21:36 Cprossu_KF7POU it was orange
21:36 Cprossu_KF7POU o_o
21:36 Cprossu_KF7POU but damn good unit, just had a power transistor blow due to some solder spatter inside the unit
21:36 Cprossu_KF7POU fixed it and a few resistors and it was up and going again
21:37 LeadHead1 Man
21:37 LeadHead1 I think I know exactly what company you're talking about
21:38 Cprossu_KF7POU Shamo
21:38 Cprossu_KF7POU I think
21:39 Cprossu_KF7POU there it is!
21:39 Cprossu_KF7POU http://pic.tradeage.com/inverter-ac-dc-tig-welding-machine-square-wave-welder-wse-315ii-1503248.jpeg?w=160
21:39 LeadHead1 hm
21:39 Cprossu_KF7POU http://pic.tradeage.com/ac-dc-tig-welding-equipment-inverter-welder-wse-200-1502694.jpeg
21:39 Cprossu_KF7POU honestly it was a nice machine
21:39 LeadHead1 Shamo is chinese
21:40 Cprossu_KF7POU well whatever it was a nice unit
21:40 LeadHead1 and it sounds like it had a typical higher-end Chinese unit problem
21:40 Cprossu_KF7POU and certainly worth the $5 of parts it needed
21:40 LeadHead1 quality control (soldering work) and little stuff (resistors, etc..)
21:41 Cprossu_KF7POU but yeah
21:41 Cprossu_KF7POU no wiring schematic
21:41 Cprossu_KF7POU some of the resistors weren't even banded
21:41 Cprossu_KF7POU luckily the ones I needed to replace were
21:41 Cprossu_KF7POU but who the hell .... scratches off the identifying marks on power transistors?
21:41 LeadHead1 Stolen parts
21:41 LeadHead1 sometimes
21:42 Cprossu_KF7POU good point
21:42 Druidic_Rifleman Cprossu
21:42 Druidic_Rifleman you weld right?
21:42 Cprossu_KF7POU yes
21:42 Cprossu_KF7POU I'm best with stick
21:43 Druidic_Rifleman i got a bitch of a project comming up
21:43 Druidic_Rifleman Light howitzer
21:43 Cprossu_KF7POU fun fun
21:43 Druidic_Rifleman withe rthat or a morter XD
21:43 Cprossu_KF7POU what material?
21:43 Druidic_Rifleman need ti find my plans if i do the mortor
21:44 Druidic_Rifleman I might use Chromoly
21:44 LeadHead1 I hate welding anything with chrome in it
21:44 Druidic_Rifleman least half inch seamless
21:44 Cprossu_KF7POU Druidic_Rifleman: http://oi52.tinypic.com/20kcb47.jpg
21:44 LeadHead1 fumes are disgusting, and it turns out they're highly cancerous too
21:45 Cprossu_KF7POU that's off a lincoln ac-225 buzz box
21:45 Cprossu_KF7POU I hate galvanized
21:45 Cprossu_KF7POU ughhh
21:45 LeadHead1 I like it when galvanized metal catches on fire too
21:45 LeadHead1 well the coating that is
21:45 Druidic_Rifleman yeah i used galvanised Shettmetal Befoee
21:45 Cprossu_KF7POU but yeah that piece of metal won't be moving xD
21:45 Cprossu_KF7POU your thoughts?
21:45 Cprossu_KF7POU lol
21:45 Druidic_Rifleman on the weld?
21:45 LeadHead1 my own personal welder is a Lincoln WorkPak 125, small little mig welder
21:45 LeadHead1 works for what I do
21:46 LeadHead1 I have no idea of the difference between a Lincoln Pro Core, WorkPak, or Weld-Pak HD
21:46 LeadHead1 they all look the same
21:47 Cprossu_KF7POU probably internal cooling and amperage/duty cycle?
21:47 LeadHead1 dunno
21:47 LeadHead1 Mine has provisions for sheidling gas hookup
21:47 LeadHead1 I don't think the pro-core machines do
21:47 Cprossu_KF7POU what I hate is people who pick up the little 115 at the home depot
21:47 Cprossu_KF7POU and are like 'ima gonna build a trail her'
21:48 LeadHead1 Mine looks the same as the little 125 at home depot, but I don't know if it is the same
21:48 Cprossu_KF7POU I can weld! I've watched all the episodes of orange county chopper
21:48 Cprossu_KF7POU know what I mean?
21:48 LeadHead1 I got the WorkPak 125 because it was $300 refurbished
21:48 LeadHead1 with a 3 year warranty
21:49 Cprossu_KF7POU I'm speaking of people who use flux core (.020 probably), and don't know how to run a mig
21:49 LeadHead1 .020 fluxcore?
21:49 LeadHead1 wat
21:49 Druidic_Rifleman "i know every thing about home renovation i watch holmes on homes the designer guys and all the other shows"
21:49 Cprossu_KF7POU that's what they ship in those
21:49 LeadHead1 My work-pak uses .035
21:49 Cprossu_KF7POU yeah but you know what I mean right?
21:49 LeadHead1 Well I don't know many people like that
21:49 LeadHead1 but I'll say sure
21:50 Cprossu_KF7POU you should be able to goto .045 if you really wanted to
21:50 LeadHead1 :-P
21:50 Cprossu_KF7POU lol
21:50 Cprossu_KF7POU but the point is I can make a monkey make an OK looking bead
21:50 Cprossu_KF7POU with a mig
21:50 LeadHead1 I've welded way bigger things than I should have with my welder
21:50 Cprossu_KF7POU and it won't have any penetration
21:50 Druidic_Rifleman my issue i need a 2elder thats atleats 4 times the zize
21:50 Cprossu_KF7POU zero
21:50 Druidic_Rifleman size
21:50 Cprossu_KF7POU zilch
21:50 Cprossu_KF7POU nada
21:50 Cprossu_KF7POU set up right you can get away with a lot
21:50 LeadHead1 I have the opposite problem
21:50 Cprossu_KF7POU try that with ARC though
21:50 Cprossu_KF7POU hahaha
21:51 Cprossu_KF7POU there's no hiding a shitty weld with ARC
21:51 Cprossu_KF7POU it's either good or it's not
21:51 Cprossu_KF7POU enjoy them!
21:51 LeadHead1 My welds often look shitty with my MIG (I can blame it being fluxcore all I want, but it's me :-P)
21:51 LeadHead1 so I'll be like okay, it's a weak weld, I'll just break it, grind it and try again
21:52 LeadHead1 except at this point I've got the 20 pound sledge out
21:52 LeadHead1 and it still won't break
21:52 Druidic_Rifleman tggmc1 any news on the video cards i sent in?
21:52 Cprossu_KF7POU we need to get you a argon/co2 owner bottle
21:52 Cprossu_KF7POU it'll help you out
21:52 Cprossu_KF7POU xD
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21:52 LeadHead1 I've gotten to the point where I make pretty nice looking welds with fluxcore, I welded a turbo flange up the other day
21:52 Cprossu_KF7POU oh speaking of harbor freight stuff
21:52 LeadHead1 and I was pretty happy with it
21:52 Cprossu_KF7POU my helmet has been awesome
21:52 Cprossu_KF7POU xD
21:53 Cprossu_KF7POU I've loved the damn thing
21:53 Druidic_Rifleman Nods when i weld the end block into this IF it's not sollid enough I might get hurt
21:53 dr_jkl shit.
21:53 LeadHead1 I love my lincoln helmet
21:53 Druidic_Rifleman I am tempted to make it shoot 3 inch soup cans
21:53 LeadHead1 It's not auto-dimming
21:53 Cprossu_KF7POU I had to add an adjustment to it and a sheepskin but I love it
21:53 wannabe1987 hi dr_jkl
21:53 Cprossu_KF7POU LeadHead1: get an autodarkener
21:53 Druidic_Rifleman hey dr_jkl
21:53 Cprossu_KF7POU it'll improve your welding at least 2 fold
21:53 SparkyPojects heh, i welded a trailer out of 3/8 angle over 30 years ago, never been shown how, but i watched others, that thing was still holding strong, the discovery channel wasn't around then
21:53 LeadHead1 I've never seen an auto darkener with a window this big
21:53 Druidic_Rifleman did you read what pm;d you?
21:54 Cprossu_KF7POU LeadHead1: you running a gold lens I hope?
21:54 Druidic_Rifleman Speaking of welding i have to make sure mom brings the welding helmet
21:54 LeadHead1 SInce I don't know what a gold lens is
21:54 LeadHead1 I can't say I am
21:54 Cprossu_KF7POU look at it sideways it'll have a goldish green tinge to it
21:54 Druidic_Rifleman Dad brough the like Crappy hand held mask thing... I was like... WTF
21:54 Cprossu_KF7POU http://www.harborfreight.com/adjustable-shade-auto-darkening-welding-helmet-46092.html
21:54 Cprossu_KF7POU I got this for $25
21:55 Cprossu_KF7POU on a sale day
21:55 LeadHead1 What's the advantage of a gold lens
21:55 Cprossu_KF7POU it enhances basically everything
21:55 Cprossu_KF7POU makes it clearer,
21:55 LeadHead1 oh, I can see fine through mine
21:55 Cprossu_KF7POU it's a night and day difference
21:55 Cprossu_KF7POU but still
21:55 Cprossu_KF7POU you should get an autodarkener
21:55 LeadHead1 Eh
21:55 Cprossu_KF7POU I'm telling you
21:55 LeadHead1 It's not a huge deal on my MIG
21:55 Cprossu_KF7POU wait for one to go on sale at harbor freight
21:56 Cprossu_KF7POU then snag one
21:56 Cprossu_KF7POU if you take no other advice from me
21:56 Cprossu_KF7POU take that, and give it a shot
21:56 LeadHead1 lol
21:56 LeadHead1 I've used my friends auto-darkner
21:56 LeadHead1 handy
21:56 LeadHead1 but I just hate the small windows
21:56 Cprossu_KF7POU http://www.harborfreight.com/blue-flame-design-auto-darkening-welding-helmet-91214.html
21:56 Cprossu_KF7POU this one goes on sale too
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21:57 Cprossu_KF7POU and has a slightly bigger window
21:57 LeadHead1 my lens is about as big as that whole area
21:57 Cprossu_KF7POU yes I know
21:57 LeadHead1 You can see everything
21:57 Cprossu_KF7POU but tell me truthfully
21:57 Cprossu_KF7POU when you are welding what are you looking at?
21:57 LeadHead1 where I'm going
21:58 Cprossu_KF7POU is that more than a foot?
21:58 LeadHead1 Often yes
21:58 LeadHead1 sometimes not
21:58 Cprossu_KF7POU still
21:58 Cprossu_KF7POU get one
21:58 LeadHead1 lol
21:58 Cprossu_KF7POU you'll like it once you use it for a real day
21:58 Druidic_Rifleman Cprossu My dad bought a decent Low price welding helmet
21:58 Cprossu_KF7POU (and it's yours to beat up)
21:58 LeadHead1 I can understand for stick welding
21:58 Druidic_Rifleman he prings the 3 dollar one that came with the welder
21:58 Cprossu_KF7POU for mig it's nice too
21:58 Cprossu_KF7POU hahahah
21:59 Cprossu_KF7POU Druidic_Rifleman figures
21:59 LeadHead1 dunno, on my mig, I hold the wire where I want to start, pull the trigger and nod my head down to close the helmet
21:59 Druidic_Rifleman when i am welding Things like a Spiled mace and cruciple for meling aluminium
21:59 Cprossu_KF7POU Druidic_Rifleman: is it one that looks like a face mask with a popsicle stick?
21:59 Druidic_Rifleman pretty much
21:59 LeadHead1 Some guys like those, I have no idea why
21:59 Cprossu_KF7POU I hate those
21:59 LeadHead1 You can't mig properly single handed
22:00 LeadHead1 imo
22:00 Druidic_Rifleman it's not so bad if your in the shop and some one want's to Watch you work or helm
22:00 Druidic_Rifleman help
22:00 Druidic_Rifleman But if your working it's a FUCKING PAIN
22:00 Cprossu_KF7POU neither is the old standby 2x4 flip up
22:01 LeadHead1 You know what's funny about the HF mig welders
22:01 LeadHead1 They're hot electrode
22:01 LeadHead1 the wire is hot, all the time
22:01 Druidic_Rifleman like when i do the Cruciple...
22:01 Cprossu_KF7POU http://www.weldersupply.com/products/HSL-2B.jpg
22:01 Cprossu_KF7POU I keep one of those who want to watch
22:01 Cprossu_KF7POU *for who wants to watch
22:02 Druidic_Rifleman thats 10 or so minutesof tack weld s alone
22:02 LeadHead1 Really wish my compressor hadn't decided to let go of its hose
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22:02 Druidic_Rifleman hey monster
22:02 CSMonster hi
22:02 BotSteve CSMonster: At 20:01Z, Druidic_Rifleman asked me to tell you Is this the same motor she was talking about http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1335629
22:03 LeadHead1 Funny how it went too, it was a three layer hose, rubber, some kind of wire/nylon mesh, then an outer rubber sheath
22:03 LeadHead1 It actually pushed the inner rubber layer through the holes in the mesh
22:03 LeadHead1 instead of just ripping it all apart
22:04 CSMonster um
22:04 CSMonster it might be.  it looks very similar
22:05 CSMonster the one i had was ryobi
22:05 CSMonster *is
22:05 CSMonster *have is
22:05 speedrunnerG55 Hey counter strike monster
22:06 CSMonster hi speedrunner.  also, кусай меня.
22:06 speedrunnerG55 BotSteve: кусай меня
22:07 Seroster LeadHead1, what's whith the name?
22:07 CSMonster batsteve here?
22:07 BatSteve hi CSMonster
22:07 CSMonster hey
22:07 BatSteve speedrunnerG55: put it in quotes and add a ? at the end
22:07 BatSteve BotSteve: "кусай меня"?
22:07 BotSteve BatSteve: "bite me" (ru to en, translate.google.com)
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22:08 speedrunnerG55 ...
22:08 speedrunnerG55 Sorry BotSteve
22:09 BatSteve what's up csm?  How's your day?
22:10 CSMonster it's been...
22:10 CSMonster a day
22:10 speedrunnerG55 CSMonster: 0100111001101111
22:11 BatSteve what time zone are you in, csm?  UTC-7 ? or -8?
22:12 BatSteve .t -7
22:12 BotSteve Sat, 14 May 2011 15:12:08 -7
22:13 Druidic_Rifleman i really wanna get 4 if em and build a paint ball AC130 specte gunship
22:13 Druidic_Rifleman XD
22:14 Druidic_Rifleman here noobie noobie noobie
22:14 CSMonster -7
22:14 CSMonster i guess
22:14 CSMonster why?
22:18 BatSteve a feature request that I've had bugging me for the longest time
22:18 BatSteve https://github.com/Steve-V/tgg-BotSteve/issues/8
22:18 BatSteve you should be able to do .t CSMonster
22:18 CSMonster hmm
22:18 BatSteve and have it return your local time
22:18 BatSteve right now you can't
22:18 BatSteve .userinfo CSMonster
22:18 CSMonster wouldn't he need a persistent database to save information about people?
22:18 BatSteve oops
22:18 BatSteve CSMonster: yes.  and now, thanks to eightbitbrad, he has one
22:18 CSMonster sweet.
22:19 BatSteve which is why it has suddenly come up on my radar again
22:19 CSMonster does that mean the .seen database is persistent?
22:19 BatSteve not yet.
22:19 BatSteve that one's on the list too.
22:19 * CSMonster nods
22:19 BatSteve currently the only things that are persistent are greets and insults
22:19 BatSteve .insult
22:19 BotSteve Hey, BatSteve, If you keep that up, I'll rip your arm off and beat you with the wet end.
22:19 CSMonster .trope grievous harm with a body
22:19 BotSteve CSMonster: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GrievousHarmWithABody
22:20 BatSteve (because my sense of humor is 12 years old and these are my priorities, obviously)
22:20 CSMonster lol
22:20 CSMonster .insult
22:20 BotSteve Hey, CSMonster, After talking to you, I now understand why animals eat their young.
22:21 CSMonster HAH
22:21 CSMonster mom nom nom.
22:22 exor674 heh
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22:27 * Nazca grumbles
22:27 Nazca I need superglue and we don't have any
22:29 Cprossu_KF7POU boo
22:30 * wannabe1987 is back...pictures are up
22:30 Druidic_Rifleman CSMonster why not build a specter gunship for paint ball...
22:30 CSMonster because it's silly?
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22:31 Hackbat cprossu! look waht I found
22:31 Hackbat http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=160507852688#ht_7354wt_973
22:31 Hackbat Filters with the same naming scheme as the protech ones with the same 80 mm cap
22:31 Cprossu_Laptop yay
22:31 Hackbat but a DIFFERENT company
22:32 Cprossu_Laptop still good deal
22:32 BatSteve You know, something occurs to me.
22:33 wannabe1987 uh oh
22:33 Hackbat and...they no long make filters
22:33 Hackbat GREAT
22:33 Hackbat I want NEW filters @_@
22:33 Hackbat Could I make an adapter?
22:33 Cprossu_Laptop best not to
22:34 Hackbat I mean machine one
22:34 BatSteve Paintball battles imply that each side shoots at each other.  What happens when somebody manages to shoot *down* the AC130?
22:34 LeadHead1 .insult
22:34 BotSteve Hey, LeadHead1, after talking to you, I now understand why animals eat their young.
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22:35 BatSteve Like, are there any waivers or anything for if you're piloting an RC aircraft and you kill someone with it?
22:35 Hackbat Though it would seem to be cheap to get a new Halfmask respirator
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22:36 Hackbat I would like to have a new set of Chemical Filters JUST incase
22:36 LeadHead Is my name dun fixed?
22:36 Hackbat you know?
22:36 LeadHead Indeed it is.
22:36 Hackbat .insult
22:36 BotSteve Hey, Hackbat, after talking to you, I now understand why animals eat their young.
22:36 Hackbat D:< Get a new insult
22:36 BatSteve Hackbat: there's a couple more in there, but not many
22:37 Hackbat .insult
22:37 BotSteve Hey, Hackbat, if you keep that up, I'll rip your arm off and beat you with the wet end.
22:37 Hackbat THAT"S MORE LIKE IT D:<!
22:38 wannabe1987 lol
22:38 hubzcaps goofy
22:39 hubzcaps i think the oldest video card i ever had was the Tseng labs 400 ISA   wtf!!!
22:40 hubzcaps 800x600 standerd display adapter nutn fancy
22:40 Cprossu_Laptop .insult Hackbat
22:40 BotSteve Hey, Cprossu_Laptop, how many different kinds of stupid are you trying to be?
22:40 Cprossu_Laptop hahaha
22:40 Cprossu_Laptop nice
22:40 Cprossu_Laptop +1
22:41 Cprossu_Laptop .c the answer to life, the universe, and everything
22:41 BotSteve 42
22:41 LeadHead I have an old Trident PCI card
22:41 Cprossu_Laptop good.
22:41 LeadHead 512KB vram
22:41 LeadHead It can only do 800x600 @ 256 colors
22:41 LeadHead :-P
22:41 Cprossu_Laptop why are you complaining?
22:42 Cprossu_Laptop that vid card was an isa vga set dumped on a pci card (essentially)
22:42 LeadHead Why do you always assume I'm complaining?
22:42 Cprossu_Laptop although most isa cards could be upgraded to 1mb =P
22:43 Cprossu_Laptop "<LeadHead> It can only do 800x600 @ 256 colors
22:43 Cprossu_Laptop <LeadHead> :-P"
22:43 LeadHead and?
22:43 Cprossu_Laptop remind me how that doesn't come off as a complaint
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22:43 LeadHead I would have figured the : - P
22:43 CSMonster it came off to me as an amusing anecdote
22:44 Cprossu_Laptop hmmmm
22:44 Cprossu_Laptop I gotta stop taking things so literally
22:44 LeadHead Indeed.
22:44 speedrunnerG55 .insilt
22:44 Cprossu_Laptop .fal
22:44 speedrunnerG55 .insult
22:44 BotSteve Hey, speedrunnerG55, don't feel bad, I think your poor self-image is *completely* justified.
22:44 Cprossu_Laptop nice
22:44 Cprossu_Laptop and glados would call you fat
22:44 tesla4d My boyfriend flat-out refuses to use anything but IE. So now that he's dealing with a malignant script and having to jump on new instances of IE opening up against his will, my only reasonable response was "I'm not going to tell you 'I told you so', NO MATTER HOW MUCH I WANT TO RIGHT NOW!"
22:45 wannabe1987 lol
22:45 LeadHead Hey tesla4d, does he use AIM?
22:45 tesla4d No, I don't think so.
22:45 Cprossu_Laptop tesla4d: I completely understand
22:45 LeadHead Oh, older versions of AIM had a nasty bug where they would just start opening new instances of AIM over and over.
22:45 LeadHead err
22:45 speedrunnerG55 .insult
22:45 BotSteve Hey, speedrunnerG55, if you keep that up, I'll rip your arm off and beat you with the wet end.
22:45 LeadHead instances of IE
22:45 tesla4d I just reminds me of "IE: The Number one browser for downloading a better browser!"
22:45 Nazca tesla4d: so he stabbed himself with a rusty knife and was surprised when it hurt? :p
22:46 speedrunnerG55 .insult
22:46 BotSteve Hey, speedrunnerG55, after talking to you, I now understand why animals eat their young.
22:46 Cprossu_Laptop I've hated adobe products for 16 months now
22:46 speedrunnerG55 .insult
22:46 BotSteve Hey, speedrunnerG55, how many different kinds of stupid are you trying to be?
22:46 Cprossu_Laptop freaking zero days
22:46 Nazca my soldering iron isn't hot
22:46 tesla4d Nazca, pretty much. He's even had this happen before. I think he just keeps using IE so he can say that I don't make all the decisions about our computers.
22:46 Nazca it might get hot if I plug it in
22:47 LeadHead Possibly
22:47 speedrunnerG55 ..
22:47 LeadHead We'll need to assemble a research team to be sure though.
22:47 Cprossu_Laptop Remember, three way
22:47 Nazca tesla4d: ooooooh, "I'm going to stab myself because I want to make the decision and you said not to"
22:48 Cprossu_Laptop "I want permission to plug in the soldering iron", "You have permission to plug in the soldering iron", "I am now plugging in the soldering iron"
22:48 Cprossu_Laptop safety first you know
22:48 Nazca syn, syn/ack, ack
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22:50 hubzcaps wohooo..
22:51 hubzcaps u ever heard of  a tabe backup that fits in the floppy area its a QIC 80 tape..and i had these nice 1 gb tapes for it...it was on a floppy channel b
22:52 Cprossu_KF7POU I'll be back latah
22:52 Cprossu_KF7POU colorodo backup
22:52 Cprossu_KF7POU for the loss
22:52 hubzcaps mmmhmmmmmmm
22:52 Cprossu_KF7POU I had a teac tape drive that
22:52 Cprossu_KF7POU took...................audio cassettes
22:52 hubzcaps ooooh
22:53 LeadHead *rimshot*
22:53 hubzcaps what was the data density
22:53 hubzcaps of like a 90 minute tape
22:53 Cprossu_KF7POU I think it could fit all of 25mb on a tape
22:53 hubzcaps thats sooooo kickasss
22:53 hubzcaps hope its read speeds were vary fast]
22:54 Cprossu_KF7POU the tapes went in sideways too
22:54 hubzcaps i havea  DLT  ultrium HP box (;
22:54 Cprossu_KF7POU HAHAHAHA
22:54 Cprossu_KF7POU http://www.pinnaclemicro.com/fetchimage.php?MT2STN70|Teac%20America%20Inc
22:54 LeadHead 25mb on a tape?
22:54 LeadHead audio casette I mean
22:54 LeadHead seems high
22:55 Cprossu_KF7POU that could have been compressed
22:55 hubzcaps sooo tight
22:55 Cprossu_KF7POU I don't remember
22:55 LeadHead I mean commodores were what
22:55 LeadHead 100kb on a tape?
22:55 Cprossu_KF7POU commodores stored in tones though
22:55 Cprossu_KF7POU not digitally
22:55 LeadHead true
22:56 LeadHead I wasn't aware normal audio casettes had what it took
22:56 LeadHead to store any kind of digital data
22:56 * wannabe1987 leaves for a party
22:56 LeadHead as far as tapes go, audio casettes are about as bad as they come
22:56 BatSteve woo party!
22:56 Cprossu_KF7POU it's magnetic tape isn't it?
22:56 hubzcaps partttry!!!!
22:56 wannabe1987 birthday party :D
22:56 LeadHead Why, yes, why yes it is
22:56 hubzcaps oooh
22:56 LeadHead Not all magnetic tape is created equal
22:57 Cprossu_KF7POU yeah but with the right heads... get it, the write heads?!... you can do anything
22:57 speedrunnerG55 Another party?
22:57 speedrunnerG55 >.<
22:57 LeadHead I suppose, but media is very imporant, espeically with tape storage of any kind
22:58 speedrunnerG55 Have fun wannabe
22:58 Cprossu_KF7POU also recall that a hard drive platter from that era, no matter how you 'spin' it is a layer of magnetic paint on a piece of metal
22:58 LeadHead iron oxide coating
22:58 LeadHead lawl
22:58 Cprossu_KF7POU xD
22:58 Cprossu_KF7POU some is orange
22:58 LeadHead Actually, remarkably similar to how tapes are made
22:58 Cprossu_KF7POU and so the point was made
22:59 Cprossu_KF7POU later all
22:59 LeadHead and good thing modern harddrives aren't using that technology
22:59 LeadHead any more
22:59 LeadHead :-P
22:59 Cprossu_KF7POU sandwich time
22:59 Cprossu_KF7POU I hate glass platters =P
22:59 hubzcaps .w laservue tv
22:59 BotSteve "Laser color television (in short, Laser TV), or Laser color video display utilizes two or more individually modulated optical (laser) rays of different colors to produce a combined spot that is scanned and projected across the image plane by a polygon-mirror system or [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_video_display
23:00 Cprossu_KF7POU .w liquid waste
23:00 BotSteve "This page has been deleted." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_waste
23:00 Cprossu_KF7POU o_O
23:00 Cprossu_KF7POU that's amusing
23:00 LeadHead Those laser televisions sure died out fast
23:00 hubzcaps ??
23:00 LeadHead well laser televisions, a few years back when they were first announced
23:00 LeadHead everyone had a huge jerk-fest about them
23:00 LeadHead either none of them actually came to market
23:01 LeadHead or nobody cares about them anymore
23:01 Nazca bugger.... I wired this smd led backward
23:02 Nazca the red leads go to the green led and the green leads got to the red led
23:02 exor674 what did you do that for?
23:02 Nazca it's not labelled, so it was a guess
23:03 Nazca I don't care enough to actually rewire it
23:08 speedrunnerG55 Couldnt you doma junction test?
23:08 speedrunnerG55 Do a
23:09 speedrunnerG55 Diode test.
23:10 speedrunnerG55 Nazca: ?
23:10 Nazca the problem is more a lack of reference points
23:11 speedrunnerG55 Like no white line?
23:13 Nazca it's smd
23:13 Nazca it's like 2mm each side
23:13 speedrunnerG55 Is there a blue dot
23:14 speedrunnerG55 What is it for?
23:15 speedrunnerG55 I wonder what a fiber optic tv wouldmbe like
23:15 Nazca it's just plain 2mm each side, 4 dots on the bottom for solder pads, a slightly different colour led, but you can't see that when you're soldering
23:15 speedrunnerG55 Would be
23:16 speedrunnerG55 Huh. 2 in 1?
23:17 Nazca ya
23:18 Nazca they have some 3 in 1 smds leds at fablab, but that's overkill
23:18 speedrunnerG55 RGB?
23:18 Nazca yea
23:18 speedrunnerG55 Cool
23:19 speedrunnerG55 Imagin CMYK
23:19 LeadHead CMYK wouldn't work for mixing colors using light
23:19 speedrunnerG55 Oh.
23:20 Seroster I saw this steak the other day
23:20 Seroster About a foot by a foot by two inches
23:20 Seroster Pure fucking cow
23:20 Nazca ink vs light :)
23:21 Seroster That made the caveman inside me want to throw it on a fire
23:21 speedrunnerG55 Ye pigmments mix to form grey/black
23:21 speedrunnerG55 Light mix to make white
23:21 speedrunnerG55 Wow
23:22 speedrunnerG55 Were did you see that Seroster ?
23:22 masterofmonks Seroster: New boyfriend?
23:22 Seroster The store down the corner? =P
23:22 Seroster It was pretty damn cheap too
23:22 speedrunnerG55 XD
23:22 Seroster masterofmonks, unlike SOME in here I don't date cows. =P
23:23 masterofmonks No, you just take them out for drinks and slip them drugs.
23:23 BatSteve (grin)
23:23 speedrunnerG55 Lol
23:23 Seroster Well, what can I say? I like big jugs =P
23:24 BatSteve "Dating a cow is like riding a moped - it's surprisingly fun until your friends see you doing it"
23:24 Seroster The same goes for a lot of stuff.
23:24 masterofmonks Or the farmer who owns the cow.
23:24 Nazca wtf did I put that drill bit
23:24 Seroster Nazca, Meth?
23:26 Nazca mmm?
23:28 Seroster I got a free slighly broken Dremel today!
23:28 Nazca do want
23:28 Nazca a dremel that is
23:28 Seroster ...Just incase the CIA are watching you?
23:28 masterofmonks Seroster: And it joins your collection of other free, slightly broken things?
23:29 Seroster It will join my collection of free functional tools
23:29 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: jiffycoil on HELP! PLZ check my CAP BANK math....
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23:30 Nazca ah, found it
23:30 kristopher hello
23:30 Nazca 3mm HSS drill bit
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23:30 Seroster nice
23:30 LeadHead He always does that.
23:31 Seroster Gotta get a new set of HSS drill
23:31 Seroster s
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23:32 Nazca I've got a latching push switch that was designed for having a crappy bulb under the cap to light it up
23:32 Nazca but that sucks, so I've pulled the lamp pins and made a 3mm hole in the bottom, which should be enough to pass the four smd wires through
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23:33 jeremys howdy
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23:39 jeremys whats everyone up too?
23:39 Psi left #thegeekgroup
23:39 Ponko92 me i'm trying to win a lag battle with my laptop
23:39 jeremys whats the score?
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23:45 Ponko92 well at the moment my 1-9th battlions are winning on the Skype and the chat battle but the war is still on and the laptop is not responding and absolute victory shall be achieved
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