Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-06-15

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00:00 eadthem to bad it couldnt of waited a month or 2 to die
00:00 Cprossu those 3tb seagates look nice though
00:00 Cprossu 6 of them.
00:00 eadthem id bet a bulldoser would do a magnatude more nicely than a phenom II
00:01 Cprossu this is sporting a core i7 980X extreme, eadthem
00:01 Seroster The tv got a 3.25amp fuse that blew. Either a tired fuse or a serious problem that I wont bother fixing. Shall I insert and possibly waste a 10cent fuse, or shall I go for broke and just use a .22 bullet casing?
00:01 Cprossu the new one that is
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00:01 Cprossu you fail Cprossu_Laptop =P
00:01 Cprossu_Laptop shut up
00:01 eadthem how big are the NLE files normaly?
00:02 Cprossu BIG
00:02 Cprossu think 1080P
00:02 eadthem i was thinkign a SSD might be worth it for this
00:02 Cprossu uncompressed
00:02 eadthem mmm prob better off raid 0 then
00:02 Cprossu eadthem: ssd's are way too expensive
00:02 Cprossu we have a ~7k budget total
00:02 Cprossu eadthem: NO RAID 0
00:02 eadthem ya i was thinking a smaller one
00:02 Cprossu unless it's for a screatch
00:02 Cprossu and a smaller than 300gb is useless
00:03 eadthem thats what i was thinking  you wouldnt want to store production stuff on a 0
00:03 Cprossu though I think I am making the os drive a 250 intel
00:03 eadthem just works in progress
00:03 Cprossu the store is what the spinning disks are for
00:03 Cprossu and it's for RAW footage
00:04 Cprossu eadthem: rather than annoying me while I am making the config
00:04 Cprossu http://thegeekgroup.org/bb/computer-sciences/ducks-computer/
00:04 eadthem how do they back that up   or is it just raid 1 for the raw footage and final output?
00:04 Cprossu ^ heres the specs from captain himself although it's hard to tell who's talking
00:04 Cprossu I don't care, just read that thread
00:04 Cprossu minus the 3k budget
00:05 Cprossu you'll be able to ID my posts by my talking, but I am off to finish this config, k?
00:06 injektion It's funny watching old Computer Chronicles episodes
00:06 Cprossu looks like we're getting a core i7 990 now though~
00:06 Cprossu and it COMES WITH A FREE T-SHIRT can you believe that?
00:06 speedrunnerG55 What socket it the i7?
00:07 Cprossu 1366 in this case
00:07 Cprossu there are other i7's with other sockets
00:07 speedrunnerG55 Oh
00:07 Cprossu because intel sucks.
00:07 Cprossu -1 core i7 980 hex core +1 core i7 990 hex core, savings $50/1
00:07 Cprossu *?!
00:07 Cprossu meh whatever
00:08 speedrunnerG55 ...eh?
00:08 injektion It's interesting how tablet PCs have changed over the last 10 years
00:09 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: dr_jkl on Project Log: Large HVL Voltage Display.....DruidicRifleman on Project hick ship... the ontario chapters redneck rocketry program.
00:09 eadthem Cprossu  so you alredy got it layed out just got to update  out of stocks then
00:10 Cprossu yeah and I am upgrading a few things
00:10 Cprossu and finding cheaper/better
00:10 Cprossu http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=12302834
00:10 Cprossu eadthem: that's the config we ended up with last time I put it down
00:10 eadthem the one reliablty thing i see is the seagate drives     but i dont know how barracuta XT has done
00:10 Cprossu it's gonna be about the same price but more awesome when I am done updating
00:11 eadthem i just know that there generic 500GB-1.5TB drives had a above average failure rate
00:11 Cprossu so far I've had several 2tb XT's on media center duty
00:11 Cprossu at a customers house
00:11 Cprossu no fails yet
00:11 Cprossu he's running 6 of them now
00:11 injektion Is it safe to ditch OS X and use Windows for pro audio and video now?
00:11 Cprossu no
00:12 Cprossu it's not safe to use any os for pro audio and video.
00:12 Cprossu you should know that!
00:12 Ponko92 hello all
00:12 injektion Cprossu: OS X has yet to fail me
00:12 Cprossu then you haven't done enough yet.
00:12 * eadthem wonders if barricuta XT is part of the same line his barricuta NS became
00:15 injektion Cprossu: The copy protection that some of the plugins I use do not have issues on OS X but on Windows when I last used it the copy protection would randomly BSOD the machine
00:19 eadthem they use adobe for video editing?
00:19 Cprossu no
00:19 Cprossu Vegas
00:19 Cprossu at least this machine will be vegas
00:20 injektion Time to watch a movie I pirated BBL
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00:23 injektion Fuck it's unwatchable
00:24 Cprossu tggmc1 we have video at least
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00:26 master0fmonks is now known as masterofmonks
00:28 Hackbat yay
00:28 Hackbat cnc video
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00:31 Seroster Tyvm for the heads up hack
00:31 Hackbat youtube is full of derp
00:31 Seroster The entire world is
00:32 Sgt_Lemming sigh...
00:32 Sgt_Lemming minecraft server is down :-(
00:32 Seroster That big black truck... I suppose it aint got KITT in it?
00:32 Hackbat wow the blurry spot ont he video kinda hurts your eyes
00:32 Hackbat keep trying to make it focus
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00:34 tggmc1 ok, whats happening heer
00:34 tggmc1 *here
00:34 Hackbat youtube fun
00:34 * Sgt_Lemming hands cory some nacho's with sour cream
00:34 Seroster tggmc1, I suppose you aint interested in the HAAS video
00:34 Seroster Since you probably were there when it happened
00:36 tggmc1 no, I as at work then, I saw the slideshow, is there video now?
00:36 Hackbat yep
00:36 Hackbat I'd link you but I'm full screen on it
00:36 Seroster That warpcore needs some love '-'
00:36 Sgt_Lemming what happened to the poor camera? :-(
00:36 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOeToSHc6Ww&feature=feedu
00:36 Hackbat looks like chris sneezed on it
00:37 tggmc1 which camera?
00:37 Seroster Sgt_Lemming, I'd suggest semen, but concidering capn is inert nowdays...
00:37 speedrunnerG55 Sgt_Lemming: Want to join my server?
00:37 Sgt_Lemming speedrunnerG55, the minecraft.net auth servers are down
00:37 Hackbat He has no sperm, but I'm sure he still makes man juice
00:37 Sgt_Lemming can't login
00:37 Hackbat what's wrong with us...
00:37 speedrunnerG55 Ohhh
00:37 speedrunnerG55 :(
00:38 Sgt_Lemming tggmc1, captain's vlog camera
00:38 speedrunnerG55 Sgt_Lemming: How long has it been down
00:38 Sgt_Lemming last hour or so by the looks of it
00:38 eadthem well AMD liano details are out
00:38 speedrunnerG55 Sad face
00:39 eadthem but its using stars not bulldoser
00:40 injektion speedrunnerG55: Lulzsec is DDosing the meinkraft servers
00:40 speedrunnerG55 Which server
00:40 Hackbat STAAAARS
00:40 speedrunnerG55 Minecraft.net?
00:40 injektion Beats me all I know is that they are
00:41 Seroster I got a tv that is fixed now, and I got a suitable outlet. But I have no idea if the outlet is connected. How do I find out? What to look for? Volts? Ohms? AC? DC?  Stick my tounge in it?
00:41 injektion My friend brought it up and I looked at him and started laughing I don't know why lol
00:41 speedrunnerG55 ...wait. Lulzsec
00:41 speedrunnerG55 Who is that
00:41 Seroster The round kind, hot middle ground outside
00:42 speedrunnerG55 injektion: Who is lulzsec
00:42 injektion http://twitter.com/#!/lulzsec
00:42 speedrunnerG55 Maby because of "lulz" sec
00:42 injektion http://lulzsecurity.com/
00:42 eadthem liano matches intels sandy bridge laptop chip in some cpu and falls behind a bit in some areas,   but liano is way better in GFX than intel , and liano seams to have 2x the battery life of sandy bridge when gameing or ideling
00:43 eadthem http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a8-3500m-llano-apu,2959-23.html
00:43 Cprossu just about got this sucker done
00:43 eadthem im very dissapointed  when i saw AMD APU review  i thougt  bulldoser was out :p
00:43 wannabe1987 does anyone know what year i was in 2nd grade?  lol
00:43 wannabe1987 i was born in 87
00:44 Cprossu haha eadthem
00:44 wannabe1987 94 sound right?
00:44 wannabe1987 i think so
00:44 Cprossu just wait
00:44 Cprossu tggmc1 good news is good
00:44 eadthem wannabe1987 1993
00:44 speedrunnerG55 ?
00:44 eadthem is when you finished 2nd grade
00:45 injektion I feel old
00:45 wannabe1987 reallY?  cuz i think 93 is the first year book i have...o.O
00:45 eadthem assuming you are indeed 1 year behind me  (feb 1986)
00:45 Cprossu was it just the terminators? TIMECODE!
00:45 Cprossu YES
00:45 speedrunnerG55 I feel young
00:45 Cprossu hey steve cool beans
00:45 Cprossu what's new?
00:46 Cprossu ok good
00:46 Cprossu ok it's a start
00:46 Cprossu did red burn those cd's?
00:46 Cprossu good call
00:46 Cprossu if you need to redownload I still have the linkage
00:46 wannabe1987 eh.  94 is close enough...if i had my records here i could look GRRRRR
00:47 eadthem steve  also might check    can you ping the console?     not shure what its using    assuming its TCPIP its prob set to some static IP thats unkown
00:47 Cprossu eadthem: can't ping it yet
00:47 Cprossu no computer attached to the network
00:47 Cprossu so hang on
00:47 Cprossu hold your horses, eadthem
00:47 eadthem aaah  he said he had it terminated  didnt know if that included the PC or just the console to the switchboxe
00:47 Cprossu steve, cory's fart apparently took out the NLE so I am in the process of updating my old spec list
00:48 Cprossu no it's just terminated at the frame and the panel
00:48 Cprossu so again, don't make me and steve bash our heads into the walls needlessly yet
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00:48 Cprossu so what's all new?
00:49 Cprossu got your echolink node with you?
00:49 Cprossu so that's a good deal
00:49 eadthem or least going out of it
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00:50 Cprossu this is gonna be a pisser
00:50 Cprossu get the XP box
00:50 Cprossu and we'll go from there
00:50 Cprossu also nab a T
00:50 Cprossu yep
00:50 Cprossu we're putting the frame at the T I think
00:51 Cprossu well define not working
00:51 eadthem if that manual was right  all it needs is 700mhz and better
00:51 Cprossu hopefully not
00:51 Cprossu try direct?
00:51 Cprossu swap hdd's
00:51 Cprossu if it's the same model
00:51 Cprossu if you are gonna do a fresh install
00:52 Cprossu do win2k
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00:52 eadthem so you have signal going in to 1 of the channals?
00:52 eadthem iye   double electric
00:52 Cprossu possibly years
00:52 eadthem ya
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00:53 Cprossu do you have those files with you?
00:53 Cprossu should I give you a link to redownload?
00:54 Cprossu we're gonna try jupiter 5.0.6 first
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00:56 Cprossu hey eadthem: want a task?
00:56 eadthem maby   that statment worrys me a bit :p
00:57 Cprossu on newegg find a good 1080P >=20" <$150 monitor
00:57 Cprossu *>=23"
00:57 Cprossu sorry!
00:57 Cprossu on newegg find a good 1080P >=23" <$150 monitor
00:57 Cprossu I sure borked that request, eadthem
00:57 eadthem dont want much do ya?
00:58 Cprossu 4 of them
00:58 Cprossu so a $15 savings is literally $60
00:58 eadthem i payed 129 for my 19.2 1600x900 AOC   but that was on sale at best buy
00:59 eadthem my prev 17 incher crt caught fire and i couldnt wait a week on 1 monitor alone :p
00:59 Cprossu I think we're going for the ccfl lit ones though
00:59 Cprossu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009266
00:59 eadthem anything aganst LED?
00:59 Cprossu this looks like what we might end up with
00:59 Cprossu the colors are a bit off and this is a video editing rig
00:59 Cprossu ccfl has a better spectrum
01:00 Sgt_Lemming err what?
01:00 injektion I like LEDs because they last longer
01:00 Sgt_Lemming LED can customise the spectrum
01:00 injektion The CCFL LCD I bought only lasted 3 years :/
01:00 Sgt_Lemming not to mention they can use a 3 colour backlight
01:00 Cprossu if we are still using the same monitors in 3 years there's a problem
01:00 eadthem ya gonna say   you shuld not have a spectrum issue with leds
01:00 Cprossu Sgt_Lemming: those cost a lot more
01:01 injektion What's the big deal about keeping the same monitor for 3 years
01:01 Cprossu find a 23" LED lit lcd that has color correction like that
01:01 Sgt_Lemming yeah, but LCD panels with decent CCFL backlights cost a lot as well
01:01 Cprossu longer than 3 years
01:01 injektion I don't see what the issue is
01:01 injektion You reduce hazardous waste of it's a CCFL
01:02 injektion Due to Hg
01:02 Overkill117 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005206
01:02 Cprossu that's a crock of shit, injektion
01:02 Cprossu recertified?
01:02 Cprossu LG and recert don't compute
01:02 Overkill117 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236117
01:03 Cprossu now that is nice
01:03 injektion The trashmen will not take the CCFL LCD I have they saw it in the trash and were like we cannot take this
01:03 eadthem Cprossu  newegg dose not carry a 23 incher less than 149$ with 1080 lines
01:03 Overkill117 this one is really good
01:03 Cprossu eadthem: kk
01:03 eadthem but   what stores do they have in the area
01:03 Cprossu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009243
01:04 Cprossu right now we are built with these
01:04 Cprossu keep in mind they are going into a frame
01:04 eadthem i assume best buy  office max  office depo stables ...
01:04 Cprossu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824994004
01:04 Cprossu ^ this frame
01:05 eadthem lcd size  less than 24 inches
01:05 Cprossu yeah but I can change that
01:05 eadthem thats quite likely OD not ID
01:05 Cprossu they make a bigger one
01:05 eadthem k just saying  that prob means  22 inch ID
01:05 eadthem assuming 1 inch border
01:06 eadthem mmmm  accualy  i wonder
01:06 injektion The Samsung CCFL LCD I had had excellent picture quality compared to my LED LCD the laptop has but I think it died waaaaay too soon and I don't like to replace things every 4 years
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01:06 Cprossu yeah it is
01:06 eadthem is that  diagonal mesurement  or is that accual width
01:06 Cprossu is the kidwell anywhere nearby, tggmc1?
01:06 tggmc1 detroit
01:06 Cprossu eadthem: look at the comments
01:06 Ponko92 i'm tired yet i don't want to sleep
01:06 Cprossu people said they used 23" monitors with it
01:06 tggmc1 I need to sign off irc for a few min, the network card I need is in this systen
01:06 injektion This computer I am using now still has plenty of life left for being 4 years old
01:07 tggmc1 so I will be back shortly
01:07 Cprossu so we outa be good to go
01:07 eadthem steve
01:07 eadthem what office stores do you have in your area
01:07 Cprossu now I just need to look at my memory and motherboard options
01:08 eadthem like best buy   stables  office max...
01:08 Cprossu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131641
01:08 Cprossu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145235
01:08 Cprossu ^ current config
01:08 tggmc1 all of the above in teh aera
01:08 eadthem usualy you can get monitors cheeper from local stores than on newegg   if you find the right sale  thats why i ask
01:08 tggmc1 ah, ok
01:08 Cprossu but you pay taxes, eadthem
01:08 eadthem true
01:08 Cprossu it usually works out
01:08 Cprossu to be the same
01:09 tggmc1 I need to shut down and will be back soon
01:09 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Radioactive on Project hick ship... the ontario chapters redneck rocketry program.
01:09 Cprossu especially if what you get has free shipping
01:09 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:
01:09 BotSteve Captain's Blog 6-14-11 CNC Move In http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOeToSHc6Ww
01:09 eadthem k cya
01:09 Cprossu cool tggmc1 keep us updated
01:09 Cprossu and we'll get this shit working
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01:09 SparkyProjects message received steve
01:10 injektion I should of bought a wide flat sony trinitron years ago
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01:12 eadthem Cprossu  best buy has a 21.5 incher for 100$   it is LED  and its acer  http://www.bestbuy.com/site/AOC+-+21.5%22+Widescreen+LED+HD+Monitor+-+Black/1970054.p?id=1218303649178&amp;skuId=1970054
01:12 eadthem but they will beable to see the monitor in the store and verify the color qualty and etc
01:12 injektion I saw that one in store today eadthem and I wasn't impressed
01:13 Cprossu we're going 23" at least I think
01:14 Toastdude Hi ynos
01:14 eadthem injektion  in waht way?
01:14 injektion The colour was poor the screen had uneven lighting
01:14 eadthem ya what i wonder here is  dose led mean   LED backlight   or oled screen
01:14 injektion Maybe it was the in store lighting but I didn't like it
01:14 injektion LED backlight
01:15 eadthem well for AOC in general   myn dose have 1 dead bright pixle that shows up after a while
01:15 injektion LED backlight = no waiting around for the CCFLs to warm up
01:15 eadthem witch dont realy mean anything
01:16 injektion For CCFLs to be effective they have to warm up to show proper colours
01:16 eadthem iye
01:16 eadthem my prv line was about my dead pixle
01:16 injektion That's sad to hear :(
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01:16 eadthem Cprossu  shipping isnt that much for lcds right
01:16 eadthem say less than 10$
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01:16 tggmc1 hello again
01:17 Cprossu indeed you are
01:17 Cprossu I'm deciding on the new NLE motherboard right now
01:17 eadthem dont you hate it when they print those on the disk
01:18 eadthem just as bad
01:18 tonsofpcs Cprossu: what NLE?
01:18 tonsofpcs (hi)
01:18 eadthem non linear editing
01:19 tonsofpcs eadthem: I didn't ask what it is.
01:19 eadthem o nvm    chris's
01:19 tonsofpcs :)
01:19 Cprossu tonsofpcs: cory took a fart
01:19 Cprossu and killed the Non Linear Editing computer
01:19 Cprossu accd to duck
01:20 injektion lol
01:20 tonsofpcs Cprossu: what system though?
01:20 Cprossu I have no clue but whatever it is it's toast
01:20 Cprossu so I am putting together the new list of parts
01:20 tonsofpcs Avid? Premiere? Liquid? FCP?
01:20 Cprossu we wanted to do this months ago
01:20 tonsofpcs (free?)
01:20 Cprossu and chris wants it Vegas this time
01:21 tonsofpcs SD or HD?
01:21 Cprossu he wants 1080p capability
01:21 Cprossu so hd
01:21 tonsofpcs 1080p? can vegas handle 1080p?
01:21 Cprossu beats me
01:21 tonsofpcs heh
01:21 Cprossu but he wants the hardware to be capable
01:21 injektion In the next year I am building a new machine instead of buying another mac pro which I might regret but lets see what happens
01:21 tonsofpcs I specced a machine to handle that a few weeks ago
01:22 tonsofpcs with some ultra awesome discount from dell that made it better-than-normal-PC pricing
01:22 Cprossu ewww
01:22 tonsofpcs mind you, the machine I specced they don't normally sell
01:22 Cprossu hang on I'll show you the parts list
01:23 tonsofpcs we called the dell sales rep after we got an email offering the obscene discount and gave a list of specs.  He wedged the discount in :)
01:23 Cprossu I just need to make it first
01:23 tonsofpcs didn't get it approved though :(
01:23 tonsofpcs the normal radio workstations got approved (they can handle video but I wouldn't do HD editing on them)
01:24 SparkyProjects Yep, i spotted you were on the wrong PC :D
01:25 Cprossu http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=17938146
01:25 tonsofpcs I think we were at 16GB of RAM (8x 2G), i7 2nd gen, 1 TB system drive, RAID 1 of 1TB drives for data  (the workstation was specced for MADI work but capable of HD video editing, for video-only, I'd build a 4+drive RAID-5)
01:25 Cprossu hey tonsofpcs ^
01:26 Cprossu I might change the ram config
01:26 tonsofpcs @^*@()^* cable company
01:26 Cprossu but that's what I got until I do
01:26 Cprossu so you can see what I came up with
01:26 tonsofpcs my cable box always decides to crap out abt. 20 minutes after I have a 3 hour long meeting sitting next to the local head-end engineer
01:27 speedrunnerG55 CrAp im still procrastinating.
01:27 tonsofpcs can the mobo handle RAID5 itself or would you need a RAID controller?
01:27 Cprossu it can handle raid5
01:27 tonsofpcs also, why do you want an SSD?
01:27 Cprossu there's 2
01:27 Cprossu one's a scratch the other's for the os
01:27 tonsofpcs an SSD for scratch? you're going to wear through it....
01:27 Cprossu it'll be fine that's what it's there for
01:28 Cprossu I originally had a SLC scratch
01:28 tonsofpcs I would stick with spinning disk.
01:28 Cprossu but they don't make the drives anymore
01:28 Cprossu it'll be fine
01:28 Cprossu tonsofpcs, the intel ssd's aren't run of the mill
01:28 tonsofpcs they are price-wise
01:29 tonsofpcs also, I wouldn't put BT on a machine that you're editing on.
01:29 Cprossu he wanted it
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01:29 Cprossu not my fault!
01:29 tonsofpcs why?  It takes processor power for the OS to handle BT calls
01:29 Cprossu again, tonsofpcs, when someone specs it out
01:29 tonsofpcs every time someone walks by with a cellphone with BT on, it's gonna slow down
01:29 Cprossu I can't argue
01:29 tonsofpcs well, tell whoever 'he' is ;)
01:29 Cprossu http://thegeekgroup.org/bb/computer-sciences/ducks-computer/
01:29 Cprossu First post is by captain.
01:29 tonsofpcs you're the design engineer, you can say 'no' :)
01:30 Cprossu I'm also 2k miles away
01:30 Cprossu he can always just PULL IT OUT if it causes problems xD
01:30 tonsofpcs 6x 3TB HDD? interesting....
01:30 tonsofpcs how many SATA slots are onboard?
01:30 Cprossu see the sata card there?
01:31 tonsofpcs clearly I don't :-p
01:31 tonsofpcs ah
01:31 Cprossu I know how to count
01:31 Cprossu but I do hope he can shove the dvd burners on that card perhaps
01:31 tonsofpcs I still would like to know how many are onboard, I want one of these
01:31 Cprossu leaving the 6g/s for the ssd's
01:31 Cprossu there are 8
01:31 Cprossu onboard
01:31 Cprossu 2 are 6g
01:31 tonsofpcs also, why the 1st-gen i7 and not a second-gen i7?
01:32 Cprossu because this is a hex core i7
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01:32 tggmc1 cprossu version 5.06
01:32 tonsofpcs do they not have hex-core 2nd gens yet?  (I'm asking, idk)
01:32 Cprossu yeah
01:33 Ponko92_ hmmm whats the discussion of the day
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01:33 Cprossu ok sorry I didn't read you tggmc1
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01:33 Cprossu v6 requires a softkey
01:33 Cprossu fyi
01:33 Cprossu I was looking at the laptop
01:33 Cprossu yeah v5.06
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01:33 tonsofpcs did you find it?
01:33 Cprossu yeah ifb came through
01:33 tonsofpcs awesome
01:34 Cprossu yeah I did
01:34 Cprossu however we are about to hit VB6 hell
01:34 Cprossu I just know it
01:34 Cprossu *vb6 dll hell
01:34 Cprossu I can already taste it!
01:34 eadthem jupiter is in vb6?
01:34 Cprossu yeah ._.
01:35 Cprossu at least the control server programs are
01:35 tonsofpcs it could be worse!
01:35 Cprossu because they are pussies
01:35 eadthem EXACTLY
01:35 Ponko92 hmmm
01:35 Cprossu yeah I know
01:35 Cprossu anything would have been better
01:35 Ponko92 how about Zelda script
01:35 eadthem just use c/c++
01:35 Cprossu I'd have prefered PASCAL
01:35 Cprossu for this thing
01:35 eadthem if you cant handle gtk  then dont program
01:35 eadthem :p
01:36 tonsofpcs my encoder control system ran an oracle database to store minor configurations... on Win NT4... with delphi and VB hybrid frontends
01:36 Cprossu delphi sucks it
01:36 Cprossu sorry
01:36 tonsofpcs Cprossu: it could have been VB3 code converted to VB4, compiled for 16 bit, ......
01:36 injektion lol VB *shudder*
01:36 Cprossu i'd prefer it over VB though
01:37 Cprossu it figures
01:37 tonsofpcs I forget which we got... I think they were optiplexes
01:37 Hackbat hey hey hey
01:37 Cprossu do you have a usb extension cable?
01:37 Hackbat VB is good for beginner projects
01:37 Cprossu you're gonna make me stroke out tonsofpcs
01:37 eadthem because someoen who designs colorful things made the case    as aposed to someone use uses thumbdrives
01:37 SparkyProjects Depends on the drive, some are designed to be slimline
01:38 tonsofpcs Cprossu: I have specs on my desk for what I just specified
01:38 Cprossu so see any obvious configuration mishaps in that list, tonsofpcs?
01:38 eadthem if its a black case one just strip the plastic off   be careful    most of them are a totaly enclosed metal case inside a plastic shell
01:38 eadthem some arnt a full metal case
01:38 tonsofpcs Cprossu: did you get extra jumpers for the hdds :-p
01:38 Cprossu tonsofpcs: are you kidding?
01:38 tonsofpcs yes
01:38 Cprossu good
01:39 SparkyProjects Yeah, i use LG Mirror, they are wide too, but at least with my PC i can plug them in, my problem is plugging in more than 1 to some hubs
01:39 Cprossu go add some blinker fluid to your car, tonsofpcs, it's running low.
01:39 tonsofpcs I have SAS and SATA drives in huge raidsets ;)
01:39 Cprossu I think KVM + That computer = fail, steve
01:39 tonsofpcs Cprossu: I just purged and replaced it last week!
01:39 Cprossu go grab it and shut that PC down
01:40 Cprossu so it doesn't get stuck again
01:40 Cprossu *crossing my fingers on that one*
01:40 Cprossu I need to go grab some edibles so I'll be back within 5 minutes
01:40 tonsofpcs well, you're spending $20 on a $0.68 BT dongle :-p
01:41 eadthem least its not onboard
01:41 tonsofpcs true
01:41 tonsofpcs wondering why a DVD/CD and not a BluRay burner
01:41 eadthem then he can just unplug it once the speed issue gets old
01:41 tonsofpcs doing math on power right now
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01:42 tonsofpcs is that 2x mini displayport + 2x DVI + 1x HDMI???
01:43 Cprossu tonsofpcs: that was done because of win 7 x64 support
01:43 Cprossu yeah it should be
01:43 tonsofpcs awesome
01:43 Cprossu one of those is a dualink
01:43 Sgt_Lemming tonsofpcs, on what?
01:43 tonsofpcs I want one of those
01:43 tonsofpcs http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150506
01:43 tonsofpcs Cprossu: what was done because of win7 x64 support?
01:43 Cprossu that specific BT module
01:44 Cprossu enable mousekeys or use tab, steve
01:44 Sgt_Lemming eh, it's AMD, their drivers are for shit
01:44 SparkyProjects mousekeys :P
01:44 Cprossu they work fine from every build I've used
01:44 Cprossu I'm on a 6870 right now
01:44 Cprossu it's a nice card
01:44 eadthem ya ive never had a AMD driver issue
01:44 Cprossu plenty of people I know have but they've been very good to me
01:45 eadthem ive had a lot of other compansy blaming amd/ati drivers   but ive never had anything accualy fixed by redoing them
01:45 Cprossu an IBM even
01:45 Cprossu ?
01:45 Cprossu no
01:45 Cprossu that's the pc
01:45 tonsofpcs oh, stream is live :)
01:45 Sgt_Lemming eadthem, sketchup will not work on AMD/ATI cards because of their drivers
01:45 Cprossu what brand is that sucker?
01:45 Cprossu I had a tripplite
01:45 Sgt_Lemming works fine until you install the drivers.
01:45 Cprossu all in one like that
01:45 eadthem google sketchup?
01:45 Sgt_Lemming yeah
01:45 Cprossu did 12 ports
01:45 tonsofpcs hmm, that drive chassis says the backplane only supports SATA II not III.....
01:45 eadthem i have it installed right now
01:46 eadthem ati x850 pro with current amd drivers
01:46 Cprossu ahh mine had a built in kvm
01:46 tonsofpcs i wonder if it's just a re-pinning system or if it actually is active
01:46 Cprossu ok steve standing by
01:46 Sgt_Lemming eadthem, 1 in 100 times it'll work
01:46 Sgt_Lemming most of the time it doesn't
01:47 eadthem my problem with sketchup was not one of buggy  it was 1 of made for kindergardners  with a weak interface
01:47 Sgt_Lemming you get shit like lines being unpickable
01:47 eadthem i ended up going back to paper and ruler
01:47 Cprossu eadthem got one more task for you
01:47 Cprossu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145350
01:48 Cprossu see if that's been QVL'ed yet
01:48 eadthem its girly ram your point?
01:48 tonsofpcs what's steve fighting with?
01:48 Sgt_Lemming https://picasaweb.google.com/inertial/SkatEboard?authkey=Gv1sRgCLby-unW-5r2sgE <--- done entirely in sketchup
01:48 Cprossu for this motherboard -> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131641
01:48 eadthem its a intel board
01:49 Cprossu I mean on ASUS's website
01:49 Cprossu becuase I like using stuff in QVL lists
01:49 Cprossu especially if I am not there
01:49 Cprossu to personally put it together
01:49 eadthem man  your using 2 things i dont ever use   asus  and intel     nether have good websites or good docs
01:50 Cprossu Asus makes kick ass motherboards
01:50 Cprossu gigabyte is hit and miss
01:50 tonsofpcs YAY!!!
01:50 Cprossu it's gonna ask if it's the server
01:50 Cprossu at some point
01:50 Cprossu *File server*
01:50 Cprossu do you have the docs with you?
01:51 tonsofpcs i'd expect a 10.x
01:51 Cprossu those won't help us here
01:51 tonsofpcs maybe a 172.x
01:51 eadthem so the queston is what ip the console has?
01:51 Cprossu do you have the saturn install manual
01:51 Cprossu is what I meant
01:51 Cprossu yeah you only have one card right?
01:51 Cprossu get that sucker out
01:52 tonsofpcs do you have two cards?
01:52 eadthem is the card shown the one that will be on thinnet?
01:52 Cprossu go Start->Run
01:52 Cprossu CMD
01:52 Cprossu type ipconfig /all
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01:52 Ponko92 ok i'm knackered right laters guy's have a gud'n and good luck
01:52 tonsofpcs is one of the cards up and the other not?  it might only be showing the ones that are up...
01:52 tonsofpcs ipconfig: it's like ifconfig but crappy
01:53 Ponko92 good luck steve
01:53 Cprossu interface name?
01:53 Cprossu what is it?
01:53 tonsofpcs steve - Try bringing the other card up (connect it to a network)?
01:53 Cprossu go to device manager
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01:53 Cprossu lets' see what it looks like
01:53 tonsofpcs over 10b2?
01:53 Cprossu he has 2 cards
01:54 Cprossu one is internal
01:54 Cprossu *or rather integrated*
01:54 eadthem ok so the cable is phisicaly connected yet it says its not then
01:54 Cprossu LNE2PCI technically
01:54 tonsofpcs if the 10b2 card isn't up, it might not show... alternatively, maybe IPX/SPX stack needs to be enabled?
01:54 Cprossu we don't need ipx/spx
01:54 Cprossu yeah I do
01:54 Cprossu hang on
01:55 * tonsofpcs should get an IRC channel to fix his Amiga problems live like this :)
01:55 eadthem what is the chipset of the card?
01:56 Cprossu .log
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01:57 tonsofpcs you might need to go into 'advanced' on the device to enable the 10b2 interfacing so that the card comes up
01:57 eadthem tinyurl it
01:57 Jdbmanalo lol
01:57 Cprossu real men don't tinyurl
01:57 Jdbmanalo ^true dat
01:57 eadthem no   and most real men  have a avg iq
01:58 tonsofpcs real men use C-A,(arrows),[,]
01:58 Jdbmanalo damn
01:58 tonsofpcs err, otu of order tehre
01:58 * tonsofpcs is tired
01:58 Cprossu it never does steve, it never does
01:58 Jdbmanalo It took him to pronz
01:59 Cprossu man I cant wait for you guys to get the intensity2 card up and running
01:59 tonsofpcs i see a forum here that suggests for 10b2, locking the card (in driverspace) to 10-base half-duplex
02:00 Cprossu we will probably end up doing that but first
02:00 Cprossu we need to play with it
02:00 eadthem if its thinnet wouldnt it alwase but half duplex?
02:00 Cprossu I think what we are going to do is use a media convertor
02:00 Cprossu hey steve, get winrar on that
02:00 Cprossu please
02:00 Cprossu look up at irc
02:01 Cprossu tggmc1
02:01 Cprossu too late now
02:01 eadthem as much as i liked and use to use winrar  http://www.7-zip.org/   dosent have any nag screens
02:01 Cprossu you can extract that exe
02:01 Cprossu with winrar
02:01 Cprossu and not go through that bs
02:01 Cprossu yeah same diff
02:02 Cprossu does 7zip do forced exe extraction?
02:02 eadthem iye   much easer to install via the inf than there premade installer BS
02:02 eadthem you can open   extract to exe name  extrat to .  extract to here
02:02 eadthem on any file tbh
02:02 eadthem wether or not that accualy goes some where depends on if its realy a archive
02:02 tonsofpcs Cprossu: yes
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02:02 Cprossu neat.
02:03 Cprossu so do you have an unknown device in device manager, tggmc1?
02:03 Seroster Ahoy speedrunnerG55
02:03 tonsofpcs eadthem: yes, it would, but the driverspace needs to know that, otherwise it might hammer the card
02:03 speedrunnerG55 Ahoy
02:03 Cprossu we don't have to worry about that yet
02:03 Cprossu communication would be fine
02:03 Cprossu tweaking can happen later
02:04 Cprossu ok tggmc1 I need you to go to my computer->properties and get to device manager
02:04 Cprossu let's see what we got
02:04 Cprossu do we have an unknown device, tggmc1?
02:05 tonsofpcs Cprossu: right, but the card won't show as an 'up' state if the driver is misconfigured
02:05 Cprossu does it have a ? mark at least?
02:05 eadthem if you can plan ahead  99% of the time you can rt click the inf  and go to install  for the device    and then install the hardware in the PC  and it will automaticly install it
02:05 * tonsofpcs can barely hear steve
02:05 eadthem it dosent work once the hardwares installed most of the time
02:05 Cprossu eadthem: not with this old crap
02:05 Cprossu sorry to say
02:05 eadthem true if its ISA i dont think that would matter
02:05 Cprossu its touchy
02:05 tonsofpcs my 10b2 cards are all PCI or Zorro
02:06 Cprossu yeah we are pci
02:06 tonsofpcs (well, Zorro II)
02:06 eadthem zorro?
02:06 Cprossu I have a few nubus ethernet cards
02:06 eadthem 5.1
02:06 Cprossu technically nt51
02:06 Cprossu but it'll work
02:06 Cprossu yeah
02:06 eadthem but for network anything 98 and better shuld work
02:07 Cprossu oh great
02:07 Cprossu is this sp1 sp2 or sp3, tggmc1 ?
02:07 eadthem do you have that link to that file
02:07 Cprossu fuckkk
02:07 tggmc1 sp3
02:07 tonsofpcs oh
02:08 tonsofpcs you might need to reenable some services on SP3
02:08 Cprossu yeah
02:08 tonsofpcs (and disable some new ones)
02:08 tggmc1 http://homedownloads.cisco.com/downloads/driver/1224638358847/lnepci2_dr.exe
02:08 tonsofpcs alternatively, can you load up Win2K?
02:08 eadthem give me 60 seconds to try something magic
02:08 tonsofpcs yay magic
02:09 * tonsofpcs can't hear steve
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02:09 Cprossu I can hear him just fine
02:09 tonsofpcs i (barely) heard you say that you coulddn't hear me
02:09 tggmc1 ok so sound for tonsofpcs
02:09 tonsofpcs your speakers aren't crappyy eeepc speakers, Cprossu :)
02:09 Cprossu rofl
02:09 tggmc1 * no sound
02:10 Cprossu we have sound he just can't hear you
02:10 Cprossu because his equipment sucks
02:10 Cprossu tonsofpcs: windows?
02:10 eadthem try the INF in the win98 folder
02:10 Cprossu that's bsod territory there
02:10 eadthem but do it via the add hardware
02:10 eadthem if it works   you can upgrade it to the correct level
02:11 Cprossu I'd try nt4 before 98 though
02:11 tonsofpcs don't do win98....
02:11 tonsofpcs yea, use WinNT
02:11 Cprossu tggmc1
02:11 tonsofpcs tggmc1: WinNT
02:11 tggmc1 un nt
02:12 eadthem ok supisdly this card has a windbond x89c940 chipset
02:12 eadthem well is it?
02:12 tonsofpcs _maybe_
02:12 eadthem worth a try
02:13 Cprossu with 10bt I'd say yes
02:13 Cprossu but with 10b2 it's a crap shoot
02:13 eadthem my queston was    are we shure its infact winbond  because if it isnt  then that would explain the inf diffrent message
02:14 Cprossu http://pcdrivers.es/photos/L/i/n/LinksysEtherpci-LAN-card-II-%28Combo%29-LNEPCI2-LNEPCI2---EtherPCI-LAN-Card-II-%28Combo%29-Lynksys-EtherPCI-Lan-Card-II-no-coax-1-pic.jpg
02:14 Cprossu try plugging in 10bt, steve
02:14 Cprossu see if that interface comes up
02:14 eadthem is that your card steve ?   /\
02:14 Cprossu noooo
02:14 Cprossu on the LNE card
02:14 tonsofpcs no, plug 10bt on the other card
02:15 Cprossu btw tonsofpcs the full name is Linskys EtherPCI Lan Card II
02:15 Cprossu and it's the combo card
02:15 eadthem http://img2.wantitall.co.za/images/ShowImage.aspx?ImageId=Linksys-LNEPCI2T-EtherPCI-LAN-Card-II-10BaseT|51RZ7M91TGL.jpg  alternate photo
02:15 eadthem better photo
02:15 eadthem ooo nvm thats not the same one
02:16 Cprossu that one's not the combo card
02:16 eadthem http://www.buycoms.com/pic/product/66/11871/NIC123_1.JPG  there
02:16 eadthem ya i saw that after i pasted the link
02:16 tggmc1 this one is a combo card
02:16 tonsofpcs Cprossu: oh, the etherPCI?  I could never get one to work in XP
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02:16 Cprossu tonsofpcs: I've gotten them working before
02:17 tonsofpcs I ended up switching to a different make... DEC branded maybE?
02:17 eadthem ya on my 10T 3com it was the 98 drivers that got things working well
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02:17 eadthem the nt4 drivers never worked right
02:17 tonsofpcs steve - just run vnc server and let Cprossu figure it out :)
02:17 Cprossu might work
02:18 Cprossu but does he have a public ip?
02:18 Cprossu that's tunneled?
02:18 Cprossu I didn't think so
02:18 Cprossu we could possibly use gotomypc
02:18 Cprossu or whatever that one is
02:18 eadthem so if there both plugged in  then the windows network card folder shuld show a link on the bnc card
02:18 * tonsofpcs goes forum browsing to find the pic of the GVG sw'r
02:18 Cprossu which one is the free one?
02:19 Cprossu start->run->cmd
02:19 Cprossu ipconfig /all
02:19 Cprossu again
02:19 Cprossu see if it's valid
02:20 Cprossu so the 10BT part works
02:20 Cprossu now we need to figure out the 10B2
02:20 Cprossu I bet we need to make a driver config
02:20 tonsofpcs you need to set the card to half-duplex for 10B2 to work.
02:20 Cprossu ^ what he said
02:20 Cprossu yeah it's in properties
02:20 Cprossu for the driver
02:20 eadthem thats in device manager    device propertys
02:21 tonsofpcs [advanced probably]
02:22 eadthem ya advanced  media type   value = 10BaseT  as aposed to autosense or 10BaseT full duplex      or thats what myn syas
02:22 eadthem but myns a LNE100TX
02:22 Cprossu tggmc1 http://www.showmypc.com/
02:22 Cprossu we'll try this
02:22 Cprossu it's free perhaps
02:23 tonsofpcs teamviewer is free.
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02:30 Cprossu wow
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02:35 Cprossu combofix time
02:35 Cprossu tggmc1
02:35 eadthem bad spyware?
02:35 Cprossu you'll have to take over
02:35 Cprossu from here
02:35 tggmc1 ok
02:36 eadthem voice is off btw
02:37 Cprossu yeah
02:37 eadthem Cprossu  what did you see  spyware wise?
02:37 Cprossu 'xp home security'
02:37 Cprossu looks like fun
02:37 eadthem crap
02:37 Cprossu steve don't worry about recov console
02:37 tggmc1 i know
02:38 Cprossu cool
02:38 tggmc1 just letting it do it's thing
02:38 tonsofpcs ugh
02:38 Cprossu it should fix us up to the point of working
02:38 Cprossu it does work at least
02:38 eadthem ya dont click on the CF screen when its running  as well
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02:38 Cprossu oh pffft eadthem
02:38 Cprossu wimp.
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02:38 BotSteve ****Attention on deck!  Captain on the bridge!****
02:39 eadthem :p  didnt have a problem my self
02:39 Cprossu hey CaptainBoden
02:39 tggmc1 hello
02:39 eadthem but the creators alwase said that
02:39 CaptainBoden hey guys
02:39 BotSteve CaptainBoden: I have the following messages for you:
02:39 BotSteve At 13 Jun 05:23Z, Cprossu_Laptop asked me to tell CaptainBoden stream's dead, 05:21 Zulu, 06/13/2011
02:39 tggmc1 looks like you had a smuge on your lens captain
02:39 Cprossu ignore that
02:40 Cprossu http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=17938146
02:40 Cprossu ^ CaptainBoden
02:40 eadthem ya despite there warnings that didnt stop me from doing a xcopy of the hidden windows directory CF works out of  and looking at what was inside it
02:40 Cprossu only thing I need to do is decide on a ram change
02:40 CaptainBoden ok, sort it out and let me know, I need to start on that ASAP.
02:41 Cprossu and the xp box we are trying to use has a nice piece of malware on it =(
02:41 CaptainBoden Steve, can you give me an update on the console project please?
02:41 CaptainBoden SHOW me things :)
02:41 Cprossu CaptainBoden do you need me to build it any more budget minded?
02:41 tggmc1 trying to remove malware from teh system, I would reinstall XP but it doesn't Have a DVD drive
02:41 CaptainBoden I don't know at this point, I'll have details on that in live stream tomorrow
02:41 eadthem what about CD?
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02:42 tggmc1 network card is workigng on the b10 side
02:42 Cprossu oh you can show CaptainBoden something
02:42 Cprossu white screen!
02:42 CaptainBoden Cprossu, need a bootable CD with god's own diagnostic on it, I'm trying to solve exactly what's wrong with this computer.
02:42 tggmc1 the tb2 light blinks when connected
02:42 Cprossu btw is it still white if placed on a color screen, tggmc1?
02:42 CaptainBoden he's watching my blog on his laptop.....
02:43 CaptainBoden lol
02:43 tggmc1 ye sI am
02:43 CaptainBoden that kinda freaks me out a little, lol
02:43 Cprossu well I was watching myself control a system there remotely
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02:43 tggmc1 you need to clean your lens'
02:43 Cprossu that was really freaky
02:43 CaptainBoden yeah, it happens, I'll get it sorted
02:43 CaptainBoden brb, getting lens cleaner
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02:43 tonsofpcs $2 gets you a giant baggie of microfibre cloths from D-X
02:43 Cprossu welcome back my evil twin.
02:43 eadthem CaptainBoden you try memtest?
02:43 Toastdude Hello CaptainBoden
02:44 Cprossu eadthem: he means to remove horrible windows stuff
02:44 Cprossu and such
02:44 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu, why the bluetooth dongle?
02:44 Cprossu because CaptainBoden asked for it
02:44 eadthem o i thought he said the mobo was the issue with the NLE
02:44 Sgt_Lemming kk
02:44 Cprossu WHY does everyone gang up on me about that
02:44 Cprossu CaptainBoden lol
02:44 Cprossu give them answers so they aren't bugging me
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02:45 CaptainBoden hey that awesome
02:46 CaptainBoden have you tried giving it a video and audio signal, just to see what happens?
02:47 Cprossu tggmc1 is that monitor color?
02:47 CaptainBoden give it audio, maybe we can get a meter to move
02:47 Cprossu yeah
02:47 tonsofpcs i would put bars and tone into every cahnnell...
02:47 CaptainBoden it's worth a shot, it has input monitorin, we may get lucky
02:48 CaptainBoden wtf, it has audio meters
02:48 Cprossu what pass is combofix on?
02:48 Cprossu o_o
02:48 Cprossu well ok
02:49 Cprossu we'll see how it turns out
02:49 eadthem isnt that before pass 0 or 1 ?
02:49 Cprossu hang on, gonna get more munchies
02:49 * eadthem hands Cprossu a slice of pizza hut
02:50 eadthem so all the VU meters on the master control are via data over the thinet from the audio bay?  if one exist?
02:51 Toastdude .seen BatSteve
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02:51 eadthem just thinking if this things ment to be with multiple MC  that ammount of data on 1 thinnet could begen to add up
02:51 Seroster I want a hearse.
02:52 Seroster Seems to be a handy way to get around. And pretty kickass too.
02:52 Toastdude Lol
02:52 Seroster Looks awesome, bed in the back, lots of trunk...
02:53 eadthem that makes some sense  i beleve i saw something on that   one moment
02:53 Cprossu back
02:53 Cprossu and progress?
02:53 Cprossu o_o
02:53 Cprossu run showmypc again
02:53 Cprossu let me see
02:54 Seroster I could settle for an ambulance too, but those must gulp a hellova lot of fuel.
02:54 Cprossu this doesn't sound good
02:54 eadthem thats takeing longer than i remeber
02:54 Cprossu eadthem: the malware is fighting back
02:54 eadthem open task manager
02:54 CaptainBoden what computer is that?
02:54 eadthem the xp box for MC
02:54 tonsofpcs my MC switcher console has buttons to switch what switcher it's tied to
02:55 tggmc1 small XP system that had been used for IRC
02:55 eadthem just curious witch processes are using the cpu power
02:55 Cprossu it's smart enough it doesn't show
02:56 Cprossu at least it didn't when I was logged in
02:56 eadthem Cprossu  when i had to use combofix it was mebroot
02:56 Cprossu it's process is hidden and there's a policy enforced
02:56 Lanther is now known as PretzelKitty
02:56 Cprossu causing a multitude of unhappiness
02:56 eadthem ya it uses its own root kits
02:56 eadthem err that is combo fix
02:57 Bat-Mobile Toastdude: howdy
02:57 eadthem for a speed comparison   whats the CPU frequency  on or abouts?
02:57 Toastdude Hi Bat-Mobile
02:57 tonsofpcs fdusk
02:57 Seroster Toastdude, Another alternative is doing like my uncle did, ripping the back seats out of a volvo ^^
02:57 tggmc1 I have no disk activity, I'm goiong to force reboot
02:57 Cprossu ok =(
02:58 CaptainBoden why are we fixing this?
02:58 Cprossu F8 F8 F8 get to safe mode
02:58 eadthem hey steve you said it had no dvd drive    dose it have a cd drive?
02:58 Toastdude Seroster: your uncle did that? lol
02:58 tggmc1 we don't have an cd
02:58 tggmc1 yes there is a cd
02:58 tggmc1 rebooting safemode
02:59 Seroster Toastdude, Yep, made a custom made bed too, fit like a glove and had a foot of storage space under, he could move a fridge in that volvo with ease
02:59 eadthem o  combo fix adds other options
02:59 eadthem to boot up
02:59 Cprossu only if you install recov
02:59 Toastdude Lol :)
02:59 eadthem i bet that was your 2nd screen
02:59 CaptainBoden what are we trying to do with this computer?
02:59 Cprossu all right start firefox, goto downloads
02:59 tggmc1 run the jupiter system
02:59 Cprossu start combofix
02:59 eadthem mmm 5/1 ish  it installed RC automaticly
02:59 Cprossu ^ what tggmc1 said
02:59 CaptainBoden we don't have the software for it anyways
03:00 eadthem CaptainBoden "xp anti-spyware" removal
03:00 tggmc1 IRC has been helpfun
03:00 CaptainBoden what retard installed that?
03:00 tggmc1 I have no idea
03:00 Cprossu this is XP home security
03:01 tggmc1 jjust as bad
03:01 CaptainBoden ok, but we still don't have the jupiter software yet
03:01 Cprossu CaptainBoden: we couldn't figure it out
03:01 eadthem wopse wrong browser tab :p
03:01 Cprossu CaptainBoden yes we snagged a copy
03:01 tggmc1 someone probably thought it was a windows update
03:01 tonsofpcs CaptainBoden: yea you do
03:01 CaptainBoden we do?
03:01 Cprossu I was trying to tell you this morning
03:01 Cprossu remember that task
03:01 CaptainBoden ?
03:01 Cprossu before IRC locked up
03:01 tggmc1 ##video was helpful
03:01 Cprossu that I wanted you to do this morning
03:01 CaptainBoden nope
03:01 Cprossu it was burn jupiter cd's with iso files
03:02 tggmc1 they sent us isos
03:02 Cprossu but instead irc froze
03:02 CaptainBoden where are the ISOs
03:02 Cprossu you never got to see them
03:02 Cprossu you said screw this and walked out
03:02 Cprossu this morning
03:02 CaptainBoden I'm here now, where are they?
03:02 Cprossu don't post the link public
03:02 Cprossu hang on
03:02 CaptainBoden and how the hell did YOU get it?
03:02 tggmc1 ##video
03:03 tonsofpcs CaptainBoden: knowing awesome people :)
03:03 tggmc1 there was  a station egr that helped us
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03:03 Cprossu in ##video the guy who helped is is ifb
03:04 Cprossu CaptainBoden: PM with links
03:04 Seroster Toastdude, my dream is buying a school bus or a box truck and converting to an apartment
03:04 Cprossu we still don't know if it will work yet though
03:04 Cprossu so keep pursuing the station lead
03:04 Cprossu and version 6 needs a soft key
03:04 Toastdude That would be intriguing....
03:04 Cprossu which we don't have, CaptainBoden
03:04 eadthem whats CF at?
03:04 tggmc1 and this system is hanging, again
03:05 Cprossu I think we are in the dumper here
03:05 tonsofpcs can you get  the softkey from GVG based on the S/N?
03:05 tggmc1 so I need a CD or to find a DVD drive
03:05 Cprossu tonsofpcs: keep in mind this is a thompson
03:05 tggmc1 to the computer lab!
03:05 Cprossu errr
03:05 Cprossu phillips
03:05 Cprossu that was bought out by gvg
03:05 Cprossu so normal rules do not apply
03:05 CaptainBoden ok
03:06 Cprossu but we do have something
03:06 Cprossu we don't know if it'll work yet
03:06 tonsofpcs Cprossu: normal rules inclued "bought by X in 1992, bought by Y in 1997, bought again in 1998, spun off in 2001, ..."
03:06 Cprossu tonsofpcs: making me cry right now, stop.
03:06 eadthem i have alternate instructions that might work for XP home securty removal http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/virus-removal/remove-win-7-internet-security-2011
03:06 CaptainBoden I've got my station guy on it
03:07 Cprossu we tried that already a while ago
03:07 Cprossu sweet CaptainBoden
03:07 Cprossu it'll be good to have the real solution
03:07 tonsofpcs Cprossu: fdisk and format is the general method for removal....
03:07 Cprossu instead of the cobbled together mess we are going to try out to get working
03:07 eadthem Cprossu  fixNCR ?
03:07 CaptainBoden um, not for nothing....but can we just put ubuntu on it and run a windows emulator?
03:07 Cprossu but cobbled together messes are worth trying
03:08 Cprossu CaptainBoden: the exe's are VB6
03:08 tonsofpcs Cprossu: that sounds like "yes" to me
03:09 eadthem ya tbh  VB6 sounds like a likely wine canadate  beangs its been around forever
03:09 Cprossu basically it means we are going into the land of DLL HELL
03:09 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Cprossu on Duck's Computer
03:09 Cprossu it doesn't even run right if everything is correct
03:09 Cprossu never mind throwing in cleanroomed dll's into the mix
03:09 tonsofpcs Cprossu: I'd run it on 2000....
03:10 Cprossu no I meant the 'ubuntu with WINE" comment
03:10 Cprossu CaptainBoden: can you ask the kidwell if he can bring a 10bt to 10b2 media converter over to the lab?
03:11 Cprossu lol see if the hdd has XP
03:11 eadthem if your going to reinstall then nvm  but if you still are trying to salvave the xp install  there are alternatives to combofix
03:11 astro73|tgg is now known as astro73|derial
03:11 eadthem salvage *
03:11 Cprossu when even combofix freezes, what can you salvage
03:12 Cprossu ?
03:12 astro73|derial ok, I'd like opinions: Would RS-485 levels through shielded cat5 be sufficient for data signals in the HVL, or should I be looking at fiber optics?
03:12 eadthem jsut because 1 tool is targetd and stopped dosnet mean another will as well
03:12 Sgt_Lemming astro73|derial, you will need some form of parity checking as well
03:13 tonsofpcs astro73|derial: well, what are you doing on the data bus?
03:13 tonsofpcs does it need to work during operations?
03:13 Cprossu eadthem: what it means is it would take me 6 hours to remove the malware
03:13 Cprossu and another 4 to fix the registry
03:13 Cprossu I've done it before
03:13 Cprossu it's not fun.
03:13 astro73|derial tonsofpcs: very yes. Current design is 3 signals: CLock, data, reset.
03:14 eadthem hents why hes plugging the dvd drive in
03:14 Cprossu hey steve tggmc1 what hdd did that come out of?
03:14 Cprossu you might want to pop it in or just try to boot it
03:14 tonsofpcs astro73|derial: 485 iss only balanced on data, no?
03:14 Cprossu *what computer did the hdd come out of
03:14 Cprossu pop it in, it might save you some time
03:14 Cprossu rofl
03:14 astro73|derial tonsofpcs: I'm using 485 levels on all three signals, so 6 twisted-pair wires. Hence cat5
03:15 Cprossu ahhh ok
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03:15 tonsofpcs steve - when the place I work for 'wipes' hdds for donation, we completely wipe them then reinstall the software that is licensed to the hardware back on them
03:15 tonsofpcs so if they have win2k stickers, they get win2k, etc.
03:15 tonsofpcs your donors might do similar
03:16 tonsofpcs astro73|derial: there's some nice shielded stuff designed for RFI environments.... lemmef ind it
03:17 tonsofpcs http://www.ubnt.com/toughcable
03:17 tonsofpcs i'm sure others sell it too
03:17 astro73|derial tonsofpcs: well, a guy on the hackaday forums pointed to some optical stuff on ebay, so I can have a one-way channel for <25
03:17 eadthem lol dont ya hate it when they pull the tray in randomly
03:19 eadthem what was that  2k?
03:19 eadthem or ubuntu?
03:19 eadthem o   ibm bios nvm
03:19 tonsofpcs astro73|derial: well, how do you get the signal to the fibre converter?
03:22 eadthem the IBM's we have at work use CS  so that makes some sense
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03:22 eadthem elchepo p4's
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03:22 astro73|derial tonsofpcs: that's what I'm trying to figure out. It looks like it's basically an LED.
03:23 eadthem dam its 10pm alredy
03:23 tonsofpcs astro73|derial: from your current serial line-driver, how do you get the signal into the fibre converter?
03:24 tonsofpcs Tue Jun 14 23:24:30 EDT 2011
03:24 Cprossu yeah
03:24 Cprossu because of the cd key
03:24 astro73|derial tonsofpcs: The current design doesn't use serial; I've never used fibre before, so I'm not sure how it would work.
03:24 Cprossu you have to use
03:24 eadthem wow what kind of a super disk is this  that has both pro and home on it
03:25 tonsofpcs astro73|derial: is this an embedded system, custom design? or PC based somehow?
03:25 Cprossu I had one just like it
03:25 eadthem must be a systme builder
03:25 Sgt_Lemming the only difference between pro and home are reg entries anyway
03:25 Cprossu it never worked correctly
03:25 Cprossu and the lack of terminal services, Sgt_Lemming
03:25 astro73|derial tonsofpcs: it's embedded, driven by a low-power micro http://thegeekgroup.org/bb/member-projects/project-log-large-hvl-voltage-display/
03:26 eadthem it also didnt ask you to hit any key to boot from disk  so it must be something for rapid installing
03:26 Cprossu but man that malware that hit it
03:26 Cprossu screwed it so bad
03:26 Sgt_Lemming the files are still there Cprossu, you just have to change reg entries to enable them
03:26 Cprossu that I couldn't make a limited account anymore
03:26 tonsofpcs astro73|derial: oh, then you can just get two TOSlink sockets with LED behind one and a light-transistor on the other....
03:26 Cprossu Sgt_Lemming: try running poledit on an XP home system
03:26 Cprossu let me know how that turns out for you
03:26 eadthem hey steve
03:27 astro73|derial tonsofpcs: you mean like http://forums.hackaday.com/viewtopic.php?p=5427&amp;sid=c991c21b40378ef282919c7604a6b176#p5427 ?
03:27 eadthem if you dotn need the whole system   leave a bit for putting a image of the windows install with working MC software
03:27 eadthem err whole drive
03:27 eadthem nvm then
03:27 tonsofpcs no, but that would work too (likely better)
03:27 eadthem can alwase have clonezila NFS to a linux system
03:27 Cprossu we don't need it now
03:28 Cprossu especially since the Jupiter software is a headache all to itself
03:28 eadthem ya i ment just a seperate partition   nothing dual boot
03:28 tonsofpcs avg or avast...
03:28 Cprossu microsoft security essentials
03:28 eadthem i use nod32
03:28 Cprossu ^ works better than either tonsofpcs mentioned =P
03:28 eadthem witch is not free
03:28 Cprossu mse is actually a killed product
03:28 Cprossu I was surprised
03:29 Cprossu *killer
03:29 Cprossu haha
03:29 eadthem nod32 generaly kills off most things as they load in to the browser for me
03:29 Cprossu i dislike AVG
03:29 Cprossu because when a virus gets in
03:29 eadthem my only problem was one that exploited firefoxes JS script  when i didnt renewe nod32
03:29 Cprossu AVG often prevenets me from fixing it
03:29 Cprossu by getting in the way
03:29 Cprossu then you can't even remove avg
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03:30 eadthem i did get it removed  im on that same install
03:30 Cprossu the best one was bitdefender
03:30 Cprossu resource wise
03:30 eadthem dont be to shure   the newer norton versions are better
03:30 Cprossu but they've gone to shit
03:30 Cprossu in the last year
03:30 Cprossu =(
03:30 eadthem just norton av     if you get firewall thats bad
03:30 eadthem nods defantly faster tho
03:30 Cprossu the problem is they all are so into scare tactics
03:30 Cprossu that they forget the product
03:30 Cprossu I use Symantec Corperate 9
03:30 Cprossu and 10
03:31 Cprossu and it seems to do the job
03:31 eadthem from 2002 to 2009 ish  was horrable
03:31 Cprossu norton is just terrible
03:31 Cprossu you know
03:31 tonsofpcs I do.
03:31 Cprossu i wonder if that hdd has a hardware issue too
03:32 eadthem im alwase nervous if synmatec endpoint will accualy do anything    we use it at work    the thing seams so  minimalist i dont trust it
03:32 Cprossu it's going way too slow for my comfort
03:32 eadthem but its still slow
03:32 Cprossu oooh ok
03:32 Cprossu you mean the full format
03:32 Cprossu it's not low level though
03:32 tonsofpcs you can't 'low level' format modern disks
03:32 Cprossu low level would erase the synchro tracks
03:32 Cprossu oh you can
03:32 tonsofpcs (well, not easily)
03:33 Cprossu it just fucks it up
03:33 eadthem Cprossu has a good point  you might want to enable SMART in the bios  at next chance  if it has the option
03:33 Cprossu I don't think his bios has support for it
03:33 eadthem its a ibm  there kinda thin with that crap
03:33 Cprossu it's a P4 IBM, tggmc1 is that sucker SDR or DDR?
03:34 Cprossu ok there's a chance then
03:34 Cprossu if we can see it's properties
03:34 Cprossu xD
03:35 eadthem supisdly my MSI board will popup on startup if it finds a smart error  but i run passmark  diskcheckup  for smart montioring   as well as PAM for the raid array
03:36 eadthem ya know you never see the bios ever alert for it      so it alwase makes ya wonder   will it accualy say something before the disk dies
03:36 Cprossu I've seen it before
03:36 eadthem AMI bios?
03:36 Cprossu pop up before the hdd dies
03:37 eadthem it do it in windows? or just on boot?
03:37 Cprossu just on boot unless you run the application that came with the motherboard
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03:37 Cprossu smart pc monitor? or whatever it was
03:37 Cprossu or was it PCALERT
03:37 Cprossu either way it was an annoying program that ....annoyed you
03:38 eadthem see ive seen the PCcillin chip away MBR protection  BIOS message  in windows before on this msi
03:38 Cprossu hahahhaha
03:38 speedrunnerG55 RED!!
03:38 speedrunnerG55 hi red
03:38 eadthem never on xp  tho
03:38 Cprossu I've seen it on 486's before
03:38 Cprossu hey REDhome
03:38 eadthem makes me wonder if it can on xp
03:38 Cprossu <3
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03:38 tggsteve hi redhome
03:38 REDhome :)
03:38 REDhome Hey internet :)
03:39 speedrunnerG55 Hi steve
03:39 tggsteve I can't reach the other keyboard so I logged in on my laptop
03:39 Bat-Mobile heya
03:39 REDhome Cprossu: my computer crashed before I could do anything with that link....so, you should send it to steve. if you haven't already.
03:39 tggsteve I have it red
03:39 Cprossu don't worry he's got it
03:39 tggsteve downloaded it a GV tonight
03:39 eadthem ya i dont run PC alert  it seams a bit     i dont know    wonko
03:40 Cprossu *starts up echolink*
03:40 eadthem ive run it just to conferm my cpus below 40C like normal but  i never let it run
03:40 tonsofpcs *complains that he needs a ticket8
03:40 * Cprossu writes tonsofpcs a speeding ticket
03:40 tonsofpcs :-p
03:40 * eadthem hands tonsofpcs 7 other tickets
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03:41 Cprossu yes I know what you meant
03:41 tonsofpcs I know you do
03:41 tonsofpcs I found out that the local group now meets at the library so I need to call them to find out when
03:41 tonsofpcs so I can find the VEC to get tested
03:41 eadthem i need to sleep
03:41 tonsofpcs I sleep to need.
03:41 eadthem who in the group would be good to ask about machineing
03:41 REDhome okay good. Phew!
03:42 speedrunnerG55 ...o_o
03:42 REDhome Moose would. eadthem
03:42 eadthem specificy powderd inductor cores   50% nickle 50% iron  rest is resin of some sorts
03:43 eadthem i did a test one one  and the drill bit (witch i didnt care about) got about 1/2 a mm and the bit was compleatly rounded off
03:43 Cprossu take your time
03:43 Cprossu we'll be here a while yet
03:44 Cprossu you should be able to just go off of KF7POU
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03:44 Cprossu happens to me all the time
03:44 Cprossu .log
03:44 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
03:44 eadthem ile post the project info in the forum then tomarow
03:45 Cprossu tggmc1 592900
03:45 eadthem steve  so theres no binder to isolate the particals?
03:46 eadthem my impresson was that it was a resen coated powder to provide insulation between particals and bind it
03:46 Cprossu KD8LLK, tggmc1?
03:46 eadthem k
03:46 eadthem ttyl
03:46 * tonsofpcs can't find a pic of the 16001L on the forums
03:47 Nazzy question ... aside from the efficiency hit, is there a good reason that you don't really come across aluminium magnet wire?
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03:48 tonsofpcs Nazzy: tensile strength maybe?
03:48 exor674 melting point?
03:48 Cprossu oh man
03:48 Cprossu dead hdd
03:49 Nazzy I would have thought aluminium would have better strength characteristics than copper, both in terms of tensile and work hardening
03:49 Nazzy exor674, hmmm, melting point of aluminium is pretty high
03:49 exor674 copper is higher
03:49 exor674 Nazzy: think of thumper, vaporizes copper wire, melts aluminum
03:50 Nazzy .wa melting point of aluminium
03:50 exor674 at least from what I've seen
03:50 BotSteve aluminum->melting point;660.32 &deg;C  (degrees Celsius);933.47 K  (kelvins);1220.6 &deg;F  (degrees Fahrenheit);1680.2 &deg;R  (degrees Rankine);528.26 &deg;R&eacute;  (degrees R&eacute;aumur);354.17 &deg;R&oslash;  (degrees R&oslash;mer);(300 to 600) &deg;C below typical temperature of magma (700 to 1300 &deg;C);240 &deg;C below large log fire temperature (1170 K);Thermodynamic energy E from E = k T:, ->80 meV  (milli
03:50 Cprossu I'd say it vaporizes aluminum
03:50 tonsofpcs Nazzy: conductivity too....
03:51 Nazzy tonsofpcs, conductivity was the primary reason I thought of
03:51 Cprossu remember that aluminum mesh?
03:51 Nazzy .wa melting point of copper
03:51 BotSteve copper->melting point;1084.62 &deg;C  (degrees Celsius);1357.77 K  (kelvins);1984.32 &deg;F  (degrees Fahrenheit);2443.99 &deg;R  (degrees Rankine);867.696 &deg;R&eacute;  (degrees R&eacute;aumur);576.926 &deg;R&oslash;  (degrees R&oslash;mer);215.4 &deg;C below to 384.6 &deg;C above typical temperature of magma (700 to 1300 &deg;C);190 &deg;C above large log fire temperature (1170 K);, perceived color->, peak wavelengt
03:51 Cprossu .yt aluminum mesh thumper
03:51 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUAxZU0ukN8
03:51 Nazzy that's actually a lot further apart than I thought
03:52 Nazzy actually ... has anyone actually measured the temperature of a secondary coil during use?
03:53 Nazzy I keep coming back to the increased resistance, so I'm going to write that off as the reason, I'm just surprised they haven't tried using aluminium mag wire in cheap applications like naff ferite motors
03:54 tonsofpcs it's not worth the difference in price for an inferior product
03:54 tonsofpcs at larger sizes and values, it might be
03:55 Nazzy even with the price of copper these days?
03:55 tonsofpcs like, 3-1/8" transmission line is available in _partial_ aluminum form
03:56 tonsofpcs because when you're running a hundred feet or so, the saved value is better than the value loss
03:56 tonsofpcs and that's a *lot* of copper
03:57 tonsofpcs it's 3 minutes to midnight here...
03:57 Nazzy true
03:58 Cprossu I guess why combofix failed was because of the hdd being dead
03:59 Nazzy *goes home*
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04:05 Cprossu so who is still online?
04:07 tonsofpcs no one
04:08 tonsofpcs maybe the gvg software will think that it's home with time set to pacific
04:08 Cprossu you're not thinking right
04:08 Cprossu where was phillips pro video based?
04:08 Cprossu thompson was indiana
04:09 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: astro73 on Project Log: Large HVL Voltage Display.....jaaz95 on Project hick ship... the ontario chapters redneck rocketry program.
04:09 Cprossu yeah
04:09 Cprossu CA I thought
04:09 Cprossu .tfw Grass Valley
04:09 BotSteve 73�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Grass Valley, CA!  '...what?'
04:10 Cprossu .tfw 85021
04:10 BotSteve 95�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'Better than winter.'
04:10 Cprossu 21:10 too
04:10 Cprossu I wonder what the high was today
04:10 Cprossu we're ALWAYS gmt - 7
04:10 Cprossu we don't do that dst thing
04:10 Cprossu it really throws me off sometimes
04:11 Cprossu at least we get to find out how accurate our clocks actually are
04:12 Cprossu tggmc1 what's our timecode up to?
04:13 Cprossu could be worse
04:13 Cprossu at least we know it's not brain dead
04:13 Cprossu ooooh that reminds me
04:13 Cprossu do you have a camera
04:13 Cprossu so you can start taking frame pics?
04:14 Cprossu no it doesn't
04:14 Cprossu cool
04:14 Cprossu nice nice
04:14 Cprossu so we got that and the frame(s) right?
04:14 Cprossu no that works fine
04:14 Cprossu lol
04:15 astro73|derial Is it just me, or is textual descriptions of designs insufficient?
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04:20 Cprossu tggmc1 one of those two cards will have a driver
04:20 Cprossu so the other one pulled it from the network right?
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04:20 Cprossu fun fun
04:21 Cprossu it's always 2 inches too short or 6 feet too long
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04:22 tggmc1 ,KLO
04:22 Cprossu ,KLO to you too!
04:22 tggmc1 QSO
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04:23 Cprossu wb tggsteve
04:24 Cprossu tggmc1 I hope the USB functions right this time
04:24 Cprossu you connected to 10bt or 10b2 presently?
04:25 Cprossu dll hell time
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04:26 Cprossu tggmc1: we need the vb6 runtime I think
04:26 Cprossu http://en.kioskea.net/download/download-284-visual-basic-6-runtime
04:26 Cprossu sounds like a plan
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04:26 BotSteve At last!  My only friend!
04:27 Cprossu what time will you be in tomorrow?
04:27 speedrunnerG55 BotSteve: :)
04:29 astro73|derial I remember my VB6 days...
04:29 Cprossu don't forget you have to run it 3 small times
04:29 Cprossu before you get into the large ass patches
04:29 Cprossu you know where it installs the latest updater
04:32 Cprossu ffff
04:33 Cprossu I can disable it once installed
04:33 Cprossu tggmc1 off air
04:34 Cprossu I'll find out in 12 seconds if it came back up
04:34 Cprossu back up
04:35 * wannabe1987 needs hug plz
04:35 Cprossu well night, steve
04:35 * astro73|derial hugs wannabe1987
04:36 wannabe1987 thanks jamie
04:36 REDhome Bleck.
04:36 REDhome tggsteve: The pics are up on FB. <3
04:37 tggsteve thanks
04:38 tggsteve cprossu https://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/photo.php?fbid=1877518858620&set=at.1784972945030.2096743.1260690192.753530312&type=1&theater
04:38 tggsteve see if you can see those
04:38 Cprossu crap I don't have fb
04:38 Cprossu lol
04:38 tggsteve just follow the link
04:38 Cprossu xD
04:38 tggsteve they may be public
04:38 Cprossu it tells me to log in
04:38 tggsteve ah, ok
04:38 tggsteve hang on
04:38 Cprossu You must log in to see this page.
04:39 tggsteve https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1784972945030.2096743.1260690192
04:39 tggsteve how about that
04:40 tggsteve at the end of the page
04:40 Cprossu The page you requested cannot be displayed right now. It may be temporarily unavailable, the link you clicked on may have expired, or you may not have permission to view this page.
04:40 tggsteve hmm
04:40 astro73|derial Cprossu: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/253912_1877518858620_1260690192_31904790_3456524_n.jpg
04:40 Cprossu I can see that at least
04:41 tggsteve https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/253912_1877518858620_1260690192_31904790_3456524_n.jpg?dl=1
04:41 Cprossu yep that works too
04:41 tggsteve https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/251063_1877518618614_1260690192_31904789_2944772_n.jpg?dl=1
04:41 Cprossu *wonders where Jeff Moore works now*
04:41 tggsteve that should be both serials
04:42 Cprossu both of those photos are the same pic
04:42 * tggsteve exacutes impulse test
04:42 Cprossu oh wait
04:42 Cprossu duh lol
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04:42 tggsteve https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/253960_1877515378533_1260690192_31904774_5051547_n.jpg?dl=1
04:42 Cprossu AVP and ACC
04:42 Cprossu that's both
04:42 Cprossu |*MCC
04:43 tggsteve yes mmc
04:43 Cprossu so the mcc is the actual surface and AVP is the frame
04:43 tggsteve correct
04:44 Cprossu night tggsteve
04:44 Cprossu and tggmc1
04:44 Cprossu xD
04:44 tggsteve night cprossu
04:44 tggsteve we have a system and software, not just to make it work tomarrow
04:44 Cprossu see you at 2-3 my time
04:45 tggsteve sounds good
04:48 Cprossu later tggmc1
04:48 Cprossu have a safe drive home
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05:00 speedrunnerG55 Hi
05:00 speedrunnerG55 Hi BotSteve
05:00 BotSteve Cheers speedrunnerG55
05:00 wannabe1987 fuck hi fuck everyone
05:01 speedrunnerG55 ....
05:01 astro73|derial wannabe1987: turrets much?
05:01 * speedrunnerG55 hids
05:01 wannabe1987 no i'm fucking pissed off and annoyed and GRERJSEKLRJ:SEKLDFJSDKL
05:01 * speedrunnerG55 runs to ##electronics
05:02 wannabe1987 no, i'll be quiet
05:02 wannabe1987 i'm fucking pissed off, i'm crying, and he was forcing me to play video games...
05:02 wannabe1987 and he's not paying attention to what I need.  i can't take all these changes
05:02 wannabe1987 and wy people think i'm "stong" or "stable" enough is beyond me..
05:03 * astro73|derial hugs wannabe1987 again
05:03 wannabe1987 thanks
05:03 wannabe1987 what i really want/need is a jacque hug/talk...but i live too far away now
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05:07 astro73|derial wannabe1987: i didn't think you were that far. Why don't you call her?
05:07 wannabe1987 i'm in kalamazoo
05:07 wannabe1987 and i'm crying too hard to talk on the phone..
05:08 * speedrunnerG55 hugs wannabe
05:08 wannabe1987 thanks speed
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05:09 wannabe1987 astro73|derial theres a reason i'm starting to apply for SSI...
05:09 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Slurpy on Duck's Computer
05:09 wannabe1987 i apparenlty can't handle this much stress
05:09 wannabe1987 and everyday theres more...and more
05:09 astro73|derial wannabe1987: oh, I didn't realize you were so far...
05:10 wannabe1987 yeah...i just moved here the beginning of the month...we'll be in  town thurs, but i won't have my car, or anyway to see her alone...i'll be with drew the entire time
05:11 astro73|derial well, you could still call and ask
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05:14 astro73|derial wannabe1987: did you want to talk?
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05:18 speedrunnerG55 WB tesla4d_
05:22 tesla4d_ thanks
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05:31 speedrunnerG55 Hi Hackotter
05:32 Hackotter hey
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05:32 * speedrunnerG55 looks at Hackotter's name
05:32 speedrunnerG55 Do i know you?
05:32 Hackotter yep
05:32 speedrunnerG55 Wow
05:33 Hackotter is now known as Hackbat
05:33 speedrunnerG55 I_I
05:34 speedrunnerG55 (I_I) oh man that looks like bomberman
05:35 speedrunnerG55 ...actually i was thinking of someone els
05:35 speedrunnerG55 But anyho
05:38 wannabe1987 .
05:38 * wannabe1987 is still alive
05:38 speedrunnerG55 :)
05:40 wannabe1987 who here knows chemistry?
05:40 LinuxH4x0r Guess who got two Ds in chem 121 and 122 :)
05:40 wannabe1987 i never took chem
05:40 wannabe1987 you can still help
05:40 LinuxH4x0r lucky
05:41 LinuxH4x0r naw
05:41 wannabe1987 what does a half life of a drug mean
05:41 wannabe1987 please
05:41 LinuxH4x0r I cheated my way through
05:41 LinuxH4x0r ahh
05:41 wannabe1987 i need this info
05:41 LinuxH4x0r I know that
05:41 wannabe1987 sooooooo
05:41 LinuxH4x0r its the amount of time that half of it wil be left
05:41 wannabe1987 so if i take a drug, how quickly will it start working?
05:41 wannabe1987 if the half life is 12.1 hours
05:41 LinuxH4x0r so lets say you took 1 gram of a drug with a one hour half life
05:41 LinuxH4x0r ok
05:42 LinuxH4x0r so in 6 hours half of it will be metabolized
05:42 LinuxH4x0r doh
05:42 LinuxH4x0r in 12 hours half of it will be metabolized
05:42 wannabe1987 so its an antidepressant.  so if i take it...it  might start working NOW instead of 2 weeks from now...
05:42 wannabe1987 right?
05:42 LinuxH4x0r yes
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05:42 wannabe1987 i know its not how you're supposed to use them but i'm depsparent
05:43 LinuxH4x0r it usually starts working within a half hour
05:43 LinuxH4x0r but it should be effective for a day or so I'd guess
05:43 LinuxH4x0r since after a day 24% of it is in your blood stream
05:43 LinuxH4x0r what drug is it?
05:44 LinuxH4x0r my antidepressants are usually of the leafy green smokable type :P
05:44 wannabe1987 lol
05:44 LinuxH4x0r actually worked great for a year or so
05:45 wannabe1987 its cymbalta (duloxetine)
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05:47 LinuxH4x0r it should hit you within an hour or so would be my guess
05:47 LinuxH4x0r http://xkcd.com/903/
05:48 LinuxH4x0r chem I suck at
05:48 LinuxH4x0r but bio was my favorite class
05:48 wannabe1987 lol
05:48 wannabe1987 i didn't do science
05:48 wannabe1987 i'm a musician...
05:48 LinuxH4x0r luckily this was covered in both
05:48 LinuxH4x0r ahh
05:48 LinuxH4x0r I'm studying mechanical engineering
05:48 LinuxH4x0r so I get all the shitty science classes :P
05:50 LinuxH4x0r http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqVmIHlkkuQ  Of Porcelain - Signal the Captain (Ooah, Glitch Mob)
05:50 LinuxH4x0r Grr
05:50 LinuxH4x0r f***ing fan in my laptop spun up
05:50 LinuxH4x0r and it makes a ton of noise
05:51 LinuxH4x0r even though I replaced it once already
05:52 LinuxH4x0r I'm heading out
05:52 LinuxH4x0r this fan is really pissing me off
05:53 LinuxH4x0r hope you feel better :)
05:53 wannabe1987 mech engineering, eh?  sounds fun :P
05:53 LinuxH4x0r not yet
05:53 LinuxH4x0r just all the crappy parts now
05:53 LinuxH4x0r I'll be back in a few mins
05:53 LinuxH4x0r gonna switch to my netbook
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05:53 wannabe1987 o.o
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05:55 wannabe1987 o.O
05:55 wannabe1987 wb LinuxH4x0r|mini
05:55 wannabe1987 mini...
05:55 wannabe1987 its a mini me!
05:55 LinuxH4x0r|mini thx
05:55 LinuxH4x0r|mini :D
05:55 LinuxH4x0r|mini Compaq mini
05:56 * wannabe1987 is on toshiba netbook
05:56 LinuxH4x0r|mini cool
05:56 LinuxH4x0r|mini is it any good?
05:56 wannabe1987 its dying
05:56 wannabe1987 yes
05:56 wannabe1987 i'm sure it was
05:56 wannabe1987 my dad used it for bank work
05:56 LinuxH4x0r|mini ahh
05:56 wannabe1987 i can't run more than three programs without issues
05:56 wannabe1987 :P
05:56 LinuxH4x0r|mini mine was a $150 black friday special
05:56 * wannabe1987 needs RAM
05:57 * LinuxH4x0r|mini also needs ram
05:57 wannabe1987 mine was bought 2 days after the haiti EQ when mom took the other laptop to haiti and dad needed something to work on
05:57 LinuxH4x0r|mini win xp started having trouble within the first month
05:57 LinuxH4x0r|mini so I formatted it and installed fedora
05:57 LinuxH4x0r|mini best decision ever
05:57 speedrunnerG55 Wannabe i cant run more than one program on my pavillion whituout problems
05:58 wannabe1987 ...
05:58 wannabe1987 how do you do anything?!
05:58 speedrunnerG55 I use it for irc
05:58 LinuxH4x0r|mini Chrome gedit and empathy
05:58 speedrunnerG55 And to charge my phone
05:58 LinuxH4x0r|mini lol
05:59 LinuxH4x0r|mini remind me of my dad's win 3.1 packard bell
05:59 LinuxH4x0r|mini i tried to play a CD and play tic-tac drop once
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05:59 LinuxH4x0r|mini never tried again :P
05:59 wannabe1987 o.o CHOCOLATE?!
05:59 * wannabe1987 eats whitechocolate
05:59 wannabe1987 ohai
05:59 * LinuxH4x0r|mini prefers dark
05:59 whitechocolate Nope I have Albinism/
06:00 wannabe1987 white black person?
06:00 wannabe1987 LinuxH4x0r|mini same
06:00 whitechocolate No.
06:00 wannabe1987 awww
06:00 whitechocolate Sorry.
06:00 LinuxH4x0r|mini neat
06:00 speedrunnerG55 Black cholcolate = the best chocolate
06:00 wannabe1987 my family refers to black people as "chocolate"
06:00 speedrunnerG55 Oh :(
06:00 whitechocolate a.k.a Rudy King
06:00 LinuxH4x0r|mini red eyes and all?
06:00 whitechocolate lol
06:00 whitechocolate No, I have blue eyes.
06:01 LinuxH4x0r|mini aww
06:01 * LinuxH4x0r|mini also has blue
06:01 wannabe1987 you blind?
06:01 wannabe1987 LinuxH4x0r|mini same!
06:01 LinuxH4x0r|mini :D
06:01 speedrunnerG55 I want some whitechocolate
06:01 whitechocolate Well legally blind
06:01 * speedrunnerG55 eats whitechocolate
06:01 Hackbat Sigh D:
06:01 whitechocolate 20/200 with glasses
06:01 Hackbat opps
06:01 LinuxH4x0r|mini dang
06:01 Hackbat wrong channel
06:01 LinuxH4x0r|mini I beat the vision chart :D
06:01 wannabe1987 wow
06:01 LinuxH4x0r|mini 20/10 or higher
06:02 whitechocolate Wish I could then I could drive
06:02 wannabe1987 i have 20/40 in one eye 20/50 in the other
06:02 pegasus 20/30 right, 20/100 left
06:02 pegasus used to be 20/300 left
06:02 speedrunnerG55 Idk what i have
06:02 speedrunnerG55 I never need glasses
06:02 wannabe1987 right eye is blurryier
06:02 speedrunnerG55 Nedded*
06:02 whitechocolate It sucks sometimes but know you get use to it.
06:03 Sgt_Lemming sigh
06:03 Sgt_Lemming I really need to get this hole in my tooth fixed :-(
06:04 LinuxH4x0r|mini ?
06:04 whitechocolate So what do you guys think so far about the building.  I think there doing a great job so far.
06:04 LinuxH4x0r|mini do tell
06:04 LinuxH4x0r|mini I can't wait till its finished
06:04 whitechocolate I live in Boulder, CO and want to go sooo bad.
06:04 Sgt_Lemming one of my teeth chipped a while ago, had it checked out, it's fine, but shit keeps getting caught in it
06:04 LinuxH4x0r|mini I plan on spending a few months there when it is all ready for members to use
06:05 LinuxH4x0r|mini that sucks
06:05 wannabe1987 whitechocolate i used to live by it...1/2 block :D
06:05 LinuxH4x0r|mini I'm in Santa Fe, NM
06:05 whitechocolate NICE
06:05 wannabe1987 how far is boulder from denver or Colorado springs
06:05 LinuxH4x0r|mini about as far as you can get from MI
06:05 whitechocolate I've found a hackerspace in Boulder, and plan on checking it out soon.
06:06 wannabe1987 no LinuxH4x0r|mini that would be seroster in sweden
06:06 LinuxH4x0r|mini hehe
06:06 whitechocolate Far as miles go, couldn't tell you.  I can't drive.
06:06 LinuxH4x0r|mini i think its a good idea to keep him far away :P
06:06 wannabe1987 right
06:06 LinuxH4x0r|mini iirc its about an hour or so from denver
06:06 LinuxH4x0r|mini not too far
06:07 whitechocolate It takes about 30-45 min.'s
06:07 wannabe1987 nice...we have a member of irc from denver i think...or CS
06:07 wannabe1987 i don't remember.
06:07 wannabe1987 all i know is i wanna use my flight voucher to fly to DIA and visit her
06:08 LinuxH4x0r|mini Washington DC?
06:08 LinuxH4x0r|mini nvm
06:08 wannabe1987 denver int'l airport
06:08 wannabe1987 DIA
06:08 LinuxH4x0r|mini yeah
06:08 wannabe1987 awwww :( my chips are gone :(
06:08 LinuxH4x0r|mini for some reason I thought dulles in DC
06:08 LinuxH4x0r|mini aww
06:09 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Bill Jones on Power Wheels Robot
06:10 LinuxH4x0r|mini i need to get back in the forums
06:10 LinuxH4x0r|mini but I forgot my password :P
06:10 speedrunnerG55 It always takes me like 5 time when i login
06:11 speedrunnerG55 wannabe the meds kicking in?
06:11 wannabe1987 i dunno
06:11 speedrunnerG55 kk
06:12 LinuxH4x0r|mini http://upsidesounds.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/fear_and_loathing_in_las_vegas4.jpg
06:12 LinuxH4x0r|mini if you see that guy the drugs are taking hold :P
06:12 wannabe1987 i've tried MJ i don't like her...
06:13 whitechocolate Hey got to go, but I'll have to check back soon.  Piece!
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06:15 wannabe1987 https://secure.ssa.gov/apps6z/radr/Controller?p=ent001 "this website is not available until these hours"  WTF
06:16 wannabe1987 ITS THE INTERNET ITS ALWAYS AVAILABLE
06:17 LinuxH4x0r|mini http://www.focalprice.com/ERY65B/USB_to_OBD_16Pin_Automotive_Diagnostic_Cable_OBDII_Black.html
06:17 LinuxH4x0r|mini "A must have item for any Volkswagen, Audi, Seat or Skoda owner."
06:17 LinuxH4x0r|mini shouldn't it work with any obd-II vehicle?
06:18 wannabe1987 doesn't say it won't work, do es it?
06:18 LinuxH4x0r|mini A USB OBD II cable interface is usable for ISO9141 and KWP2000 transmission protocol, it performs real-time diagnosis, modify settings, and clear and read error conditions on your vehicle.
06:18 LinuxH4x0r|mini i think it should
06:19 wannabe1987 it should
06:19 wannabe1987 theres no reason it shouldn't
06:19 * wannabe1987 doesn't know much about engines
06:20 wannabe1987 OMG LinuxH4x0r|mini, i saw a lotus (again) today...
06:20 wannabe1987 its the 2nd time i've seen it
06:20 LinuxH4x0r|mini cool
06:20 LinuxH4x0r|mini i'm not a huge fan of sportscars
06:20 wannabe1987 lotus elise
06:20 LinuxH4x0r|mini awesome
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06:20 wannabe1987 no but thats like a once in forever thing for michigan
06:20 LinuxH4x0r|mini is it elecric :D
06:20 LinuxH4x0r|mini yeah
06:20 wannabe1987 i doubt it...boden hasn't gotten his hands on it yet
06:21 LinuxH4x0r|mini I want to get a 60s or 70s muscle car and convert it ot electric
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06:21 * speedrunnerG55 making Toastd
06:22 wannabe1987 speedrunnerG55 stop eating people
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06:22 speedrunnerG55 Actually im making real toast
06:22 speedrunnerG55 :p
06:22 wannabe1987 vs fake toast?
06:22 speedrunnerG55 Vs Toastdude
06:22 Sgt_Lemming LinuxH4x0r|mini: Electric McLaren F1 LM
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06:24 wannabe1987 i saw a shiny new red mustang at the gas station today...she was wondering how she got a scratch where she did...it was from her nails when she opened the door
06:24 wannabe1987 like 2011, 2012 new
06:25 Speed_Laptop mom took my phone
06:25 Speed_Laptop im now laptop
06:25 wannabe1987 hi speeds mom
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06:25 Speed_Laptop speedrunnerG55, wannabe says hi
06:26 Speed_Laptop mom says hi
06:26 wannabe1987 :)
06:28 wannabe1987 just keep swimming just keep swimming just keep swimming swimming swimming
06:28 wannabe1987 Speed_Laptop i found out i'm too competetive to play video games with someoene else...
06:28 wannabe1987 even tho i suck i
06:28 wannabe1987 i'm too competeitive
06:28 Speed_Laptop finding nemo FTW
06:29 wannabe1987 yes :D
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06:29 Speed_Laptop .....LOL
06:29 Speed_Laptop (i just finished my toast)
06:29 wannabe1987 o.O whered linuxhaxor:mini go?????
06:30 wannabe1987 noes
06:30 wannabe1987 ping got him
06:30 wannabe1987 ...
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06:30 Speed_Laptop :D
06:31 LinuxH4x0r|mini qwest dsl sucks
06:31 Speed_Laptop you use dsl?
06:31 LinuxH4x0r|mini unfortunately
06:31 Speed_Laptop o_o
06:31 LinuxH4x0r|mini we got a tech out here
06:31 Speed_Laptop i used dsl for like a month
06:31 LinuxH4x0r|mini and he said our line couldn't support 1.5
06:31 Speed_Laptop and got sick of it
06:31 LinuxH4x0r|mini lol
06:31 LinuxH4x0r|mini it sucks
06:31 Speed_Laptop it was a tad better than dial up
06:32 Speed_Laptop a TAD
06:32 Speed_Laptop so then i used my neibors wifi (cable)
06:32 Speed_Laptop till i got my own
06:33 LinuxH4x0r|mini parents don't want to pay for cable
06:33 LinuxH4x0r|mini so we have what we have
06:33 LinuxH4x0r|mini my friend in albuquerque has fiber
06:33 LinuxH4x0r|mini 1 gigabit
06:33 Speed_Laptop nice
06:33 LinuxH4x0r|mini 10 gigabits in his basement, but the cable isn't fasr enough XD
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06:34 LinuxH4x0r|mini i don't know if he hooked it up yet
06:34 Speed_Laptop but if you get fiber arent you still restricted to cable speeds?
06:34 LinuxH4x0r|mini he had a rig on his roof that pulled wifi from local businesses
06:34 LinuxH4x0r|mini nope
06:34 LinuxH4x0r|mini not what he has
06:34 Speed_Laptop what does he have?
06:34 pegasus http://i.imgur.com/9sR1E.jpg
06:35 Speed_Laptop thats just an immage ruight?
06:35 LinuxH4x0r|mini http://www.citylinkfiber.com/
06:35 Speed_Laptop 0_0
06:35 LinuxH4x0r|mini 6% battery...
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06:35 wannabe1987 hi LinuxH4x0r|mini
06:36 LinuxH4x0r|mini might drop out any second now
06:36 wannabe1987 oh noes
06:36 Speed_Laptop who are you speedrunnerG55
06:36 wannabe1987 i feel better with drugs
06:36 LinuxH4x0r|mini drugs are awesome
06:36 LinuxH4x0r|mini oh prescription NVM :P
06:36 wannabe1987 lol
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06:37 Speed_Laptop so.... he has fiber going to the router?
06:37 Speed_Laptop anthten to his pc?
06:37 wannabe1987 http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/168976-3/Cat_teased.gif
06:38 Speed_Laptop cat 6?
06:38 LinuxH4x0r|mini not quite
06:39 LinuxH4x0r|mini its still in a closet down the hall
06:39 Speed_Laptop crap LinuxH4x0r|mini there iis wayy to much scripting on that site
06:39 LinuxH4x0r|mini we need to configure it and run wires
06:39 pegasus best childhood ever: http://sillyvillage.com/tarzans-girl-live-with-wild-animals
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06:41 LinuxH4x0r|mini duuuuude
06:41 LinuxH4x0r|mini that kid is awesome
06:44 pegasus whoa
06:44 pegasus http://twitpic.com/5a5qab
06:45 pegasus qube-tip?
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07:07 Hydroelectric Hey everyone.
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07:49 thekingofmetal hi
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09:18 Sgt_Lemming mmmm, greeksaladgasm
09:24 thekingofmetal de wttus?
09:28 Sgt_Lemming Just had greek salad for dinner
09:28 Sgt_Lemming so awesome
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10:33 Ponko92 hello all :)
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11:16 aweseome yo
11:16 aweseome hey capt
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11:46 BotSteve All right, show us on the doll where Seroster touched you.
11:46 Seroster God damn TV sucks.
11:46 Seroster Up bright and early, CaptainBoden?
11:47 Seroster According to my calculations it should be something like 7am over there
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12:07 CaptainBoden it's 0800hrs here
12:07 CaptainBoden gmorning
12:08 CaptainBoden (reads backlog).........christ she's vacuously stupid......
12:09 CaptainBoden anyone know where we ended up on the Saturn project?
12:09 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 4 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: jaaz95 on Project hick ship... the ontario chapters redneck rocketry program......DruidicRifleman on Detroit DIYer cooks up stronger, lighter steel, shames scientists.....DruidicRifleman on Project hick ship... the ontario chapters redneck rocketry program......DruidicRifleman on Power Wheels Robot
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12:13 Sasha_ Oh hai guys
12:13 MadManMarkAu Hey, is the TGG website offline?
12:13 Sasha_ .seen CaptainBoden
12:13 BotSteve Sasha_: I last saw captainboden 0.07 hours ago at 2011-06-15 12:09:11 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 12:13:26 UTC
12:13 MadManMarkAu CaptainBoden!
12:13 CaptainBoden hi
12:13 MadManMarkAu I just got paid, first paycheck
12:13 Sasha_ Hi
12:14 MadManMarkAu Wanna get a membership card + donate, but the site is down
12:14 CaptainBoden wtf?
12:14 MadManMarkAu Nevermind, it's back up now :o
12:14 CaptainBoden I'll get it sorted out in a bit, nobody's in the office yet, it's only 8am here
12:14 Sasha_ BTW, I was going to edit a banknote in Photoshop, and then it told me that it is illegal to do it :p
12:14 CaptainBoden oh ok
12:14 CaptainBoden it is
12:14 CaptainBoden well, it CAN be
12:14 Sasha_ Well, I wasn't intending any harm...
12:15 CaptainBoden it doesn't know that
12:15 CaptainBoden brb
12:15 Druidic_rifleman LOL eric holder IS being threatend with Contempt of congress LMAO
12:16 Sasha_ Is that the perverted congress guy?
12:16 MadManMarkAu So, what's the member card URI?
12:16 Sasha_ It's like on the 20th page of the blog afaik
12:17 MadManMarkAu Uweh
12:17 MadManMarkAu I found the store...
12:17 Druidic_rifleman Noooo thats the osama apointed atturney general who has allowed violent racist criminals to go free after they we're convicted of Federal crimes such as voter intimidation. and is currently refusing to testify on the issue of operation give US guns to the cartels to make the stats look better
12:18 Druidic_rifleman to claim that the US second ammendment is the reason for all violence in mexico
12:18 Sasha_ Afaik it's here: http://thegeekgroup.org/store/membership/beta-membership-kit/
12:20 MadManMarkAu Ordering nao...
12:20 Druidic_rifleman awesome
12:21 CaptainBoden so, where can I buy a legal copy of Windows 2000?
12:21 tonsofpcs morning
12:21 Sasha_ eBay?
12:21 tonsofpcs CaptainBoden: if you own a license to XP, you can legally downgrade
12:21 CaptainBoden ahhhhh cool
12:22 tonsofpcs (well, home might not be able to...
12:22 Sasha_ http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Microsoft-Windows-2000-Pro-w-SP4-and-COA-Full-Ver-/270759291109?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item3f0a82e8e5
12:22 CaptainBoden ok, that's a good idea, and if I have legal licenses to various flavours of windows, I can install any version I want.
12:22 Sasha_ Wait, what? You run legal software?
12:22 tonsofpcs iirc, you can only 'downgrade' one version; you definitely cannot install 95/98/Me with an XP license as XP is NT.
12:22 CaptainBoden ok, anyone got a SAFE torrent link for a full set of windows versions? I've seen massive collections from time to time of every version ever made, we should have one.
12:23 CaptainBoden Given that we get thousands of computers donated, and most of them have legal licenses on them, this is a required tool for the lab.
12:23 tonsofpcs I usually find someone with a CD and ask them to rip it for me....
12:23 CaptainBoden I need a SAFE AND CLEAN copy of every version of windows, ever.
12:23 Sasha_ Meh, I use Torrentz or some private trackers
12:23 tonsofpcs I have Windows 286 on 3.5" floppies :)
12:23 CaptainBoden oh I'm sure it's out on a torrent site somewhere.
12:23 Sasha_ I'm sure Torrentz will have something, so lemme check
12:24 tonsofpcs CaptainBoden: no friends that run/work in computer repair shops that would have access to the physical media and could copy it?
12:25 CaptainBoden My computer techs are never around when I am, lol. And I don't begin to understnad the secret filing system in our shop.
12:25 tonsofpcs heh
12:25 CaptainBoden It's  terrifying down there
12:26 Sasha_ So TGG runs on legal software?
12:26 tonsofpcs at least your shop has a secret filing system!
12:26 MadManMarkAu CAPTAIN!
12:26 CaptainBoden no, TGG runs on Gentoo.
12:26 MadManMarkAu I can't buy this...
12:26 tonsofpcs our shop here has piles that one guy who worked here 5 years ago might know what's in the pile
12:26 MadManMarkAu I submit my username and ID picture
12:26 MadManMarkAu Add to cart
12:26 MadManMarkAu It shows in my cart
12:27 MadManMarkAu but when I checkout, my cart is empty :/
12:27 CaptainBoden Mark, you gotta ask Moose, Angy, or someone else on the webteam on that. I have nothing to do with the website.
12:27 Sasha_ So like you run premier pro or final cut on Gentoo? Interesting...
12:27 Seroster If no work, rebbot -> wait til tomorrow
12:27 MadManMarkAu Oh, right, my apologies
12:27 Seroster That was the lovely sign that hang on my shcool's computers =P
12:27 CaptainBoden Sasha, you're either retarded, or a troll, and I don't have time for either.
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12:28 BotSteve At last!  My only friend!
12:28 tonsofpcs I'mma guess both.
12:28 Seroster tonsofpcs, A retroll? =D
12:28 speedrunnerG55 Hi
12:28 CaptainBoden gmorning
12:29 Seroster Oh no, we created a monster!
12:29 speedrunnerG55 Good morning
12:29 CaptainBoden so, any ideas on a windows collection?
12:29 CaptainBoden oh HEY, fuck, I'm on my OWN account now......
12:29 tonsofpcs sorry, I just beg and plead at people for each specific version that I need
12:29 Guardianzozo hello all, i just got done searching the sites i use captain and i cant find one
12:29 Sasha_ was kicked by CaptainBoden: Sasha_
12:29 CaptainBoden Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
12:29 tonsofpcs I have 98, 98SE, and XP at home.  I might have 2k...
12:29 speedrunnerG55 ?!
12:30 CaptainBoden I'm looking for a single torrent, I've seen these before.
12:30 Guardianzozo as have i
12:30 CaptainBoden Get some massive 5GB download and you get a whole catalogue of them
12:30 Guardianzozo but i cant seem to find one yet
12:30 speedrunnerG55 Oh a clo e
12:30 Guardianzozo i think its due to lack of coffee
12:31 Seroster CaptainBoden, I can find you seperate torrents... :I
12:31 CaptainBoden Worst case, that would work.
12:31 CaptainBoden They have to be clean, and OEM preferably.
12:31 CaptainBoden no weird shit
12:31 CaptainBoden we have thousands of legal licenses, so I'm pretty sure it's kosher.
12:32 Seroster Check the comments section on the TPB torrents, most people complain there if it fucks shit up
12:32 CaptainBoden True, but the commentors there are a lot like youtube commentors.....
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12:32 Seroster Truthful and intelligent people? =D
12:32 CaptainBoden You keep thinking that.
12:33 CaptainBoden Your comments are some of the most frequently ignored.
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12:33 Seroster Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside
12:33 CaptainBoden That's just gas
12:34 Guardianzozo do you have a demonoid account?
12:34 CaptainBoden not in years
12:35 Guardianzozo alright nevermind then, these links wont work
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12:38 Sasha_ CaptainBoden: I was being sarcastic... BTW, here is the best I could find, but it's only the server versions: http://qr.net/dorl. I'll keep on looking.
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12:42 ynos .tfw 49345
12:42 BotSteve 60�F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Sparta, MI!  'An Eskimo would beat your ass to be here'
12:46 Guardianzozo .tfw 75001
12:46 BotSteve 79�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Addison, TX!  'FUCKING SWEET'
12:46 speedrunnerG55 .tfw 07410
12:46 BotSteve 64�F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Fair Lawn, NJ!  'At least you aren't living in a small town in Alaska'
12:46 Guardianzozo aw
12:46 speedrunnerG55 Lol
12:48 Guardianzozo ill wait a few hours then do that again
12:49 Guardianzozo supposed to get over 100 F today
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12:50 tonsofpcs wait, speedrunnerG55 is in fair lawn?
12:50 tonsofpcs or do you just use that zip code like I use 12345 because it's close 'nuff and easier to type? :)
12:51 * tonsofpcs used to use fair lawn for wx queries when he lived in NJ
12:51 tonsofpcs .tfw 07450
12:51 BotSteve 64�F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Ridgewood, NJ!  'An Eskimo would beat your ass to be here'
12:51 tonsofpcs .tfw 13850
12:51 BotSteve 55�F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Vestal, NY!  'I've seen better days'
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13:09 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Bill Jones on Hello World.....Craig Bailey on Hello World
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13:38 tonsofpcs yay
13:38 tonsofpcs new equipment installed, fixed, and configured :)
13:38 tonsofpcs (yes, I said "new equipment" "fixed")
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13:42 maglinvinn_work morning all
13:42 tonsofpcs howdy
13:44 Guardianzozo yo
13:45 asnopus_ Hello
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13:48 Ponko92 hello all
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13:49 Ponko92 lol "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you"
13:52 maglinvinn_work hehe.  i loved skydiving.  fun times
13:54 MadManMarkAu yo maglinvinn_work
13:58 Druidic_rifleman LOL hey maglinvinn
14:08 speedrunnerG55 What tonsofpcs
14:08 speedrunnerG55 ?
14:08 ynos talk about confusing - am working with some german guys, getting a network setup in schiltingheim(sp?).
14:08 ynos they pronounce wlan as veelan
14:08 ynos and vlan a fou-lan.. or veelan
14:10 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 6 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Angy on Detroit DIYer cooks up stronger, lighter steel, shames scientists.....PROCRASTINATOR on Motorcycle guys!.....Tysk on Hello WorldCraig Bailey on Hello World.....Alphageek on Duck's Computer.....Tysk on Hello World
14:10 speedrunnerG55 tonsofpcs: ??
14:13 ynos just taking a little getting used to..
14:15 Ponko92 gotta love skydiving lol
14:15 Ponko92 and how long it takes for me to reply at times
14:16 speedrunnerG55 Hi Ponko92
14:16 Ponko92 hey speedrunnerG55 you wanna be my HB
14:17 speedrunnerG55 HB?
14:17 speedrunnerG55 HB?!
14:17 Ponko92 Half Back
14:17 Ponko92 its a football position
14:17 Ponko92 you basically run with the ball
14:17 speedrunnerG55 O_O
14:17 Ponko92 .w HB
14:17 BotSteve "HB (car), 1920s automobile" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HB
14:18 speedrunnerG55 Lol
14:18 Ponko92 *facepalm*
14:18 Ponko92 .w HB Football
14:18 BotSteve "A running back (RB) is the position of a player on an American or Canadian football team who usually lines up in the offensive backfield." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_back
14:18 speedrunnerG55 I dont do well with contact sports
14:18 Ponko92 thats a HB
14:18 Ponko92 ah ok lol
14:18 Ponko92 how about a nice game of chess?
14:18 speedrunnerG55 Yay!
14:19 speedrunnerG55 Not chess
14:19 speedrunnerG55 RISK!
14:19 Ponko92 lol
14:19 Ponko92 .g Wargames quotes
14:19 BotSteve Ponko92: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086567/quotes
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14:22 Ponko92 christ that movies old
14:22 ynos i was 1 when it came out...
14:24 Ponko92 well i'm not trying to be mean but its like woah you wouldn't of thought it was as old as it is you'd of thought more or less mid-late 80's
14:25 Ponko92 but that was the year Luton were in the 1st Division of English Football and they're in the Conference now so it was quite a long time ago
14:26 * Ponko92 should just shut up and get a shovel
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14:34 * ynos ducksLooks like chicago is getting thumped on atm
14:34 ynos bap
14:35 SparkyProjects CaptainBoden, if i can find them, i have a coy or 2 of win 98, and maybe a 95, i'll send them to you
14:36 SparkyProjects might even have a 3.1
14:36 speedrunnerG55 tonsofpcs: !!!!!!
14:38 Druidic_rifleman http://www.youtube.com/user/Gizmo4t?blend=23&amp;ob=5#p/u/0/mj3UCGJtr2M XD this would work good for an M113
14:39 MadManMarkAu Yay, I managed to buy a member card
14:39 Druidic_rifleman WOOOT
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14:43 Ponko92 whats a happening peoplw
14:44 Druidic_rifleman I cam contemplating building A small tracked AFV for paint ball
14:44 Ponko92 that would be epic
14:45 Ponko92 like the panzer that guy is builder
14:45 Ponko92 building*
14:48 Ponko92 i can see someone firing at it with a M1A1 Rocket Launcher which has been converted for paint ball
14:55 Lanther http://thereifixedit.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/white-trash-repairs-repair-flowchart.jpg
14:56 Ponko92 thats actually pretty accrurate in some places over here lol
14:58 ynos wd-40 is not a good lubricant....
14:58 ynos it evaporates and gets gooey
14:58 Ponko92 yeah but some love it lol
14:59 Lanther ynos: sure, but you can get it _anywhere_
14:59 Lanther it's popular for the same reason as duct tape. it's extremely common and usually gts the job done
14:59 Ponko92 heck even a small supermarket sell it
14:59 ynos you can get a quart of motoroil at any gas station
14:59 ynos much better lubricant
15:00 ynos peronal or otherwise ;)
15:00 ynos **personal
15:00 Ponko92 but wouldn't you normally put that in the car ;)
15:00 Lanther also, spraycans make applying it much faster
15:02 Ponko92 sure its a lubricant i know that but its not practical to put that on something like a stiff ball joint or what have you if thats the point then petrol is lubricant
15:02 Ponko92 granted its very flammable
15:02 ynos or a hingpin on a squeeky door..
15:02 ynos or gate
15:02 ynos or anything else..
15:02 ynos wd40 is a great penetrating oil
15:02 ynos for breaking things apart.
15:03 Ponko92 ah well there you have a different ball part
15:03 ynos or for making a fire.
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15:03 Ponko92 ball park*
15:11 speedrunnerG55 Ponko92: Where us tonsofpcs ?
15:11 Ponko92 idk why do you ask?
15:12 speedrunnerG55 Ok i would hav askes batsteve but hes away
15:12 speedrunnerG55 Ur runner up
15:14 speedrunnerG55 Seroster where did tonsofpcs go
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15:15 Ponko92 .c 15659 Yards to Miles
15:15 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
15:16 speedrunnerG55 Lol Ponko92
15:16 speedrunnerG55 .seen tonsofpcs
15:16 BotSteve speedrunnerG55: I last saw tonsofpcs 1.57 hours ago at 2011-06-15 13:42:28 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 15:16:40 UTC
15:17 speedrunnerG55 BotSteve: Tell tonsofpcs yes i live in 07410
15:17 BotSteve speedrunnerG55: I'll pass that on when tonsofpcs is around.
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15:18 speedrunnerG55 BotSteve: Tell tonsofpcs also 07410 is the easyest zip code do key in ever. With a num pad. Even easyer than 12345
15:18 BotSteve speedrunnerG55: I'll pass that on when tonsofpcs is around.
15:19 speedrunnerG55 I just have to hit 0 then run my finger down the left side
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15:19 speedrunnerG55 O_O
15:20 speedrunnerG55 NOOOOOOO
15:23 Cprossu_Laptop cgood morning eeryone
15:23 Cprossu_Laptop *everyone
15:24 speedrunnerG55 Hi Cprossu_Laptop
15:24 SparkyProjects Hi Cprossu
15:25 Cprossu_Laptop how is everyone today?
15:25 speedrunnerG55 Im fine. Had a test today :3
15:27 SparkyProjects Cprossu, noticed you had a problem with Malaware last night, could it have been the remote software ?
15:27 SparkyProjects An alternative is 'logmein', Symantec uses it for troubleshooting, so should be safe
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15:28 Cprossu_Laptop SparkyProjects it had it before
15:29 SparkyProjects Ah, ok
15:29 Cprossu_Laptop it was the former IRC machine
15:29 Cprossu_Laptop remember?
15:29 Cprossu_Laptop also the hdd experienced a hardware failure
15:29 SparkyProjects oh, that one :P
15:30 Cprossu_Laptop which is why combofix froze up
15:30 Cprossu_Laptop we couldn't even reformat the drive
15:30 Cprossu_Laptop a zero fill might get it back but it's pointless because it's failing anyway
15:30 Cprossu_Laptop so we dumped another hdd in
15:31 Cprossu_Laptop and did a fresh install
15:31 Cprossu_Laptop but then was cockblocked by activation I think
15:32 speedrunnerG55 I know someone with server 2008 and he cant use more than 2 TB of disc space. What shouod he do
15:32 Cprossu_Laptop we need to get everything windows updated in hopes the proper runtime files will work
15:32 Cprossu_Laptop speedrunnerG55: is he using dynamic volume?
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15:33 speedrunnerG55 Let me ask him
15:34 Cprossu_Laptop tell him also that he's limited by what windows considers a full backup since it uses .vhd files for that task
15:35 Cprossu_Laptop so what he will need to do is use the partitions he gets and dump them into a dynamic expanding.
15:35 Cprossu_Laptop (fucking windows)
15:36 Cprossu_Laptop catch that, speedrunnerG55?
15:37 speedrunnerG55 Yes
15:37 speedrunnerG55 Hes joining the chat
15:37 speedrunnerG55 I think
15:37 Cprossu_Laptop well make it quick I gotta eat breakfast
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15:38 speedrunnerG55 Hes sk
15:38 speedrunnerG55 sky__: *
15:38 sky__ hi
15:38 Cprossu_Laptop hey sky__: long story short, what's blocking you is Windows Backup
15:39 Cprossu_Laptop it doesn't handle .vhd files bigger than 2TB
15:39 sky__ ok
15:39 Cprossu_Laptop however you can create a dynamic disk set
15:39 Cprossu_Laptop with the partitions you get
15:39 Cprossu_Laptop into one drive
15:39 sky__ how do u do that?
15:39 Cprossu_Laptop thus bypassing the limit
15:39 Cprossu_Laptop go into computer management
15:39 sky__ ok
15:39 Cprossu_Laptop and disk management
15:39 Cprossu_Laptop and does one of your disks already have data on it?
15:40 Cprossu_Laptop that you want in your >2tb array that acts as one partition?
15:40 Cprossu_Laptop also is it your boot partition?
15:40 sky__ the other is unallocatede
15:40 Cprossu_Laptop sky__: is this your boot hard drive before we continue?
15:41 Cprossu_Laptop because you cannot boot off of any drive we do the following to.
15:41 tonsofpcs http://www.tonsofpcs.com/D9.jpg is what I'm working on today (well, the computer whose reflection you see there, but it's a good excuse to play with the D9 :) )
15:41 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I have the following messages for you:
15:41 BotSteve At 15:17Z, speedrunnerG55 asked me to Tell tonsofpcs yes i live in 07410
15:41 BotSteve At 15:18Z, speedrunnerG55 asked me to Tell tonsofpcs also 07410 is the easyest zip code do key in ever. With a num pad. Even easyer than 12345
15:41 tonsofpcs speedrunnerG55: yea, I know :)
15:42 Cprossu_Laptop tonsofpcs: it's so pretty
15:42 Cprossu_Laptop is that a viewsonic monitor?
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15:45 Cprossu_Laptop speedrunnerG55: =(
15:46 speedrunnerG55 :(
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15:47 Cprossu_Laptop BotSteve: tell sky__ I am eating breakfast but I'll be on later, and remember "you cannot boot off of any drive we do the following to, so it cannot be your boot partition"
15:47 BotSteve Cprossu_Laptop: I'll pass that on when sky__ is around.
15:47 Cprossu_Laptop welcome tmbomber/the kidwell
15:47 Cprossu_Laptop do you have a media converter from 10bt to 10b2 that you could bring to the lab, tmbomber?
15:49 tmbomber ok, I think I finally got a nick registered here...
15:49 Cprossu_Laptop cool
15:49 Cprossu_Laptop did you get the checksum from your email and put it in too?
15:50 tmbomber yes, just got the confirmation from nickserv that I'm verified :)
15:51 Cprossu good deal!
15:54 Cprossu I've got a requirement for breakfast that I must fill. be on later
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15:55 maglinvinn_work_ Tmbomber, you here?
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16:09 speedrunnerG55 tonsofpcs: U were from ridgewood?
16:10 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: obtuse on Power Wheels Robot
16:10 * speedrunnerG55 wonders how manny pcs tonsofpcs would have if they were netbooks
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16:12 Ponko92 thats funny
16:14 Ponko92 put my password in for this and it was mispelt and then i got it right the second time then it only goes and tell me one login attempt was made i mean its helpful if you need to know that after a few hours or so but not literally after getting the password wrong lol
16:18 Ponko92 ok where is everyone
16:18 * Cprossu would still have 1/2 ton, even if they were all netbooks, pointing at speedrunnerG55
16:18 Cprossu I'm in Phoenix Arizona about to go to breakfast.
16:18 Cprossu later dudes
16:18 Ponko92 enjoy :)
16:20 speedrunnerG55 Loo
16:20 speedrunnerG55 Lol
16:20 Ponko92 hey speedrunnerG55 :)
16:21 speedrunnerG55 Hi Ponko92
16:21 Ponko92 man liven chat up a bit
16:21 speedrunnerG55 Happy noms Cprossu
16:22 Cprossu 1000/2.95lbs(AOD150 with 6 cell pack) = ~339, I think I've got that
16:23 Cprossu l8s
16:30 Ponko92 ah starwing what a great game :)
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16:38 mashpriborintorg hello crew
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16:58 mashpriborintorg hello tggmc1
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17:00 speedrunnerG55 Hi mashedpotatoes
17:00 speedrunnerG55 And hi tggmc1
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17:04 * mashpriborintorg tearing down a old transformer for scrap copper
17:04 Ponko92 yay people on stream
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17:09 Ponko92 i've got 126 mins till LittleBIGPlanet is downloaded on my PSP
17:09 ynos mashpriborintorg: are you russian?
17:09 mashpriborintorg no, but fanatic of russian electronics :D
17:09 ynos ahh
17:10 ynos am amazed how long they held on to tube tech
17:10 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: AdderD on Power Wheels Robot
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17:10 Ponko92 because in soviet russia electronics like you
17:10 mashpriborintorg dig in my flickr photostream for some cool stuff http://www.flickr.com/photos/64683169@N00/
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17:11 mashpriborintorg and don't use crappy ROHS solder
17:11 ynos easy sell there
17:11 ynos a pacemaker collection?
17:12 mashpriborintorg also
17:12 mashpriborintorg kinda hard to find
17:12 speedrunnerG55 mashedpotatoes why
17:12 speedrunnerG55 Why do you need copper?
17:12 mashpriborintorg not for tesla coil
17:12 speedrunnerG55 ?
17:13 mashpriborintorg for selling :/
17:13 mashpriborintorg but this copper is legal, not stolen
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17:13 ynos http://www.flickr.com/photos/64683169@N00/88280513/in/set-72057594050715018/ - that is a cool looking point to point filter...
17:13 speedrunnerG55 Hi Cprossu_Laptop !!!
17:13 ynos i wonder how tight the skirt is...
17:14 speedrunnerG55 Hi Cprossu
17:14 speedrunnerG55 How was your breakfast
17:19 mashpriborintorg breakfast was so good, Cprossu is speechless
17:20 Ponko92 lol
17:20 Ponko92 he had waffles
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17:23 SparkyProjects For anyone in Europe, there's a lunar eclipse tonight, if you have cleaar skies. France will probably see it around sunset which i believe should be 8pm ish.
17:23 speedrunnerG55 Why is Cprossu speachless?
17:23 speedrunnerG55 ynos: What skirt
17:24 Ponko92 how about for people in Bedfordshire
17:24 SparkyProjects Ponko, you should see it around 9PM
17:24 speedrunnerG55 Ponko92: ?
17:25 Ponko92 ahh ok thank you :)
17:25 SparkyProjects Ponko, the eclipse has already strarted as of 6:24, but won't be visible yet
17:25 speedrunnerG55 o_o
17:26 Ponko92 this is Luton not alot of things are visible from here
17:26 Ponko92 lol
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17:27 Ponko92 ok opinions of DivX
17:27 Ponko92 VOD
17:27 xanhs it will be a few hourse before it is visseble here
17:27 SparkyProjects This is Wales, and it's overcast here :P
17:28 ynos speedrunnerG55: the skirt of the filter.. how sharp the edges of the filter are, 3+ matched crystals will give pretty tight edges
17:28 ynos that has many more
17:28 mashpriborintorg and we love short skirts :)
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17:28 SparkyProjects http://uk.news.yahoo.com/don%E2%80%99t-miss-tonight%E2%80%99s-total-lunar-eclipse.html
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17:29 speedrunnerG55 Mashedpotatoes you do
17:30 ynos mashpriborintorg: i like your pics, its like going through equipment from the 40s/50s here in the us
17:30 mashpriborintorg however, it depends of the contents....
17:31 mashpriborintorg they are still making capacitors  copieds from german WWII models
17:31 mashpriborintorg they did take complete factories at the end of war
17:32 Ponko92 oh god lol at "and we love short skirts :)"
17:33 speedrunnerG55 ynos: The skirts of the filter?
17:33 speedrunnerG55 I just know crystals look like likke metal tic cacs
17:34 speedrunnerG55 Tic tacs
17:34 speedrunnerG55 What are the scirts
17:34 speedrunnerG55 Skirts*
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17:47 Ponko92 hmmm why is my laptop going SOO SLOW
17:48 ynos when they talk about the bandwidth of a filter, they are talking about the freq range that can be passed through
17:49 ynos a sharp skirt has a real sharp cutoff freq, instead of slowly rolling off
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17:49 ynos more | | than / \
17:50 ynos looking for a good example
17:51 ynos here is a cw/ssb filter example
17:51 ynos http://www.aade.com/filter32/dishal.htm
17:51 Cprossu hello all I am very back from breakfasting
17:52 Cprossu IHOP is great. I was speechless, mashpriborintorg, no I had pancakes @ Ponko92
17:52 Cprossu I see me some moose and haas... wait that came out wrong
17:52 ynos http://www.aade.com/filter32/dishal6.jpg
17:52 ynos Cprossu is back from breastfeeding?
17:52 Ponko92 that was my next guess Cprossu
17:52 ynos i know i misread that
17:52 ynos but it def made it more fun
17:53 Cprossu ynos: hahahah
17:53 Cprossu red and black for the loss. pro tip: don't use a line the same color as your scale if you can avoid it
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17:54 Cprossu so speedrunnerG55 did 2008 server guy ever show back up?
17:54 kingofmetal hi
17:55 Cprossu hey there kingofmetal welcome to #thegeekgroup
17:55 kingofmetal :)
17:56 speedrunnerG55 No
17:58 Cprossu right now topics of discussion include (click, buzz) -HAAS CNC-, (click, buzz) Breakfast, (click, buzz), Server 2008 backup VHD's, (click, buzz) copper reclamation, (click, buzz) tonnage of computers, and (click, buzz) short skirts
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17:58 mashpriborintorg Don't buy your cargo ship in China, it will not last more long than your laptop or your camcorder
17:58 mashpriborintorg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQb2kdyL-YE&amp;feature=feedu
17:58 Cprossu hello there evil twin Cprossu_Laptop
17:58 mashpriborintorg build 2002, scrapped 2011
17:58 Cprossu_Laptop shut up.
17:58 mashpriborintorg thats... a nonsense
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17:59 speedrunnerG55 O_O
17:59 Cprossu rofl
18:00 Cprossu I read somewhere that one container ship outputs as much shitty craptacular emissions as 50,000 cars
18:00 speedrunnerG55 Cprossu: Which one is evil?
18:00 Cprossu DEATH TO CONTAINER VESSELS
18:00 Cprossu_Laptop oh no we are both evil, but one is more so
18:00 Cprossu at least depending on the day
18:00 mashpriborintorg when you see the cylinder, a whole car can fit in a single cylinder XD
18:01 speedrunnerG55 O_O
18:02 mashpriborintorg brb
18:02 Cprossu when you measure your crank oil amount in units of length measurement, mashpriborintorg, you know it's big
18:04 Cprossu SUICIDAL GRANDMA!!!!
18:04 Cprossu did anyone else hear that?!
18:04 * speedrunnerG55 gives Cprossu a morality core
18:04 speedrunnerG55 O_o
18:04 speedrunnerG55 What kind of a dip stick is that?
18:04 speedrunnerG55 No
18:04 speedrunnerG55 Where was it?
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18:10 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Cprossu on Duck's Computer.....obtuse on Power Wheels Robot
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18:12 speedrunnerG55_ Hi
18:14 speedrunnerG55_ Ponko92: !!!!!!
18:14 * speedrunnerG55_ hollas
18:14 * Ponko92 looks throws knife at tail cuts clean off
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18:15 speedrunnerG55_ is now known as speedrunnerG55
18:15 speedrunnerG55 TY Ponko92  :)
18:15 Ponko92 welcome
18:15 speedrunnerG55 I thought i was going to turn into a giant ape
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18:17 speedrunnerG55 How come Cprossu timed out in 240 seconds?
18:17 speedrunnerG55 Why is the time always different
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18:22 Cprossu is slurpy online I wonder...
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18:23 bmx_ need someone who speaks dutch ?
18:23 speedrunnerG55 Server guy may or may not come back
18:23 bmx_ i'm dutch
18:24 speedrunnerG55 He said hed google it
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18:25 speedrunnerG55 Hi Hackbat
18:26 Cprossu hrmm eadthem, tonsofpcs, anyone with a pc components selection opinion, around?
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18:30 Hackbat Hey-ho neighbor
18:30 Cprossu CaptainBoden: made a reply to the PC thread
18:33 speedrunnerG55 I wonder whats better. New egg or micro center
18:33 Cprossu newegg since I am in arizona
18:34 Cprossu they've always been good to me
18:34 * speedrunnerG55 donloading the newegg app
18:34 Cprossu luckily I also have fry's electronics within my driving gap
18:36 Cprossu (2, technically)
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18:38 speedrunnerG55 Its so quiet
18:38 Cprossu indeed it is
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18:42 speedrunnerG55 Frys electronics?
18:42 speedrunnerG55 I live 10 minuts away from a micro center
18:42 speedrunnerG55 Is that better than newegg?
18:43 mashpriborintorg back
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18:47 Ponko92 http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d81cea2c1/Week-14-Shame-Report what am i gonna do without this in autumn?
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18:48 Cprossu I wonder
18:49 tonsofpcs Cprossu: which monitor?
18:49 * Cprossu logs into his wifi point to see if it's crapping cookies
18:49 DruidicRifleman i sware there are people who own cars and vote in this country who could loose a game of chess to a rock...
18:49 tonsofpcs a rock? nah, a rook maybe :-p
18:49 Cprossu hrmmm Time: 11:49:31 up 77 days, 14:01, load average: 0.07, 0.01, 0.00
18:49 Cprossu so that's fine
18:49 tonsofpcs 14:49:50 up 105 days, 16:28, 23 users,  load average: 0.58, 0.64, 0.63
18:49 Cprossu let me go see if it got knocked over
18:49 Ponko92 nice play on words tonsofpc
18:49 Ponko92 s
18:50 Cprossu tonsofpcs: that's a linksys wrt54gs 1.1 that uptime is from xD
18:50 tonsofpcs yea, I don't have one PC that weighs a ton, although that might be interesting... PDP-11 maybe?
18:50 tonsofpcs Cprossu: this is a Dell notebook :-p
18:50 tonsofpcs (I'm surprised, honestly)
18:50 Cprossu I can beat that with my emachines laptop
18:50 Cprossu that's what I have my garrysmod server on
18:50 tonsofpcs this is my sshd + irssi ;)
18:51 Cprossu 323 days, 09:10:10
18:51 Cprossu XP SP1
18:51 tonsofpcs it was a P2, then it got replaced by a new Dell a while ago, then I decided to swap it for the notebook when I was rewiring the home theatre system (notebook was in theatre duty, moved the desktop there)
18:52 tonsofpcs this is .... well, whatever I updated ubuntu to 105 days ago ;)
18:52 Seroster Why are all crimminals so damn stupid? If the cops wants your car to stop it WILL stop one way or another... People don't get that?
18:52 tonsofpcs 10.10?
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18:53 tonsofpcs Seroster: http://gothamist.com/2011/06/06/allegedly_drunk_driver_thought_port.php
18:54 Cprossu and no tonsofpcs, motherboards
18:54 Cprossu do you see a sandy bridge motherboard we could actually use?
18:54 Cprossu because I do not.
18:54 tonsofpcs what about motherboards?
18:54 tonsofpcs you asked if one of the monitors was a viewsonic
18:55 Cprossu someone on the forums suggested a i7 2600k
18:55 Cprossu and I suggested no
18:55 tonsofpcs I suggested that first!
18:55 Cprossu I still suggested no
18:55 tonsofpcs :-p
18:55 Cprossu but for the fun of it
18:55 Cprossu do you see a motherboard that would work
18:55 Cprossu reliability wise
18:55 ynos 2:53pm  up 116 days, 20:42,  1 user,  load average: 0.02, 0.02, 0.02
18:55 tonsofpcs no, I don't search out motherboards, I have better things to do with my time.
18:56 Cprossu rofl
18:56 Cprossu ok
18:56 tonsofpcs like play with giant audio consoles :D
18:56 Cprossu and that's a nice one too
18:56 tonsofpcs and chat on IRC
18:56 Cprossu that you posted the pic of
18:56 Cprossu (drool)
18:56 tonsofpcs yea, that's in our "Production Control" room in radio, we use it for TV too, have 24+8 snake running down the hall
18:56 tonsofpcs I can route probably 8 more signals in if I needed to (never have needed to)
18:57 Cprossu btw tonsofpcs, if you want to know, whenever jermeys is around irc, he's the haas guy
18:57 * tonsofpcs finds a better pic of it
18:57 speedrunnerG55 I sure cant wait to do hardware in school
18:57 tonsofpcs haas guy?
18:57 speedrunnerG55 Imah put a nice SSD im my pc
18:57 Hackbat http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=lunar+eclipse
18:57 Hackbat google be trolling
18:57 speedrunnerG55 B)
18:58 tonsofpcs https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0G77lTd4xAw/TXvk1q4rd3I/AAAAAAAABaU/SwLnMzHJ-44/s640/Pic026.JPG is a better pic of the D9 (well, kinda, it's in focus at least ;)
18:58 Seroster Daemn Hackbat
18:58 speedrunnerG55 I herd its like inperitive i do raid5 wih a ssd
18:58 tonsofpcs raid5 with an ssd? why would you do that?
18:59 tonsofpcs the ssd should be faster than the bus speed....
18:59 speedrunnerG55 Because if 1bit is wrong the whole drive id dead
18:59 tonsofpcs so RAID1 it.
18:59 Cprossu then there's no point
18:59 tonsofpcs or get a delayed cache HDD attached to the SSD
18:59 Cprossu btw that's fine, speedrunnerG55
18:59 Cprossu to have 1 bit wrong
18:59 Cprossu it happens all the time
19:00 speedrunnerG55 Oh.
19:00 Cprossu raid 0 is silly though unless it's s drive you don't care about
19:00 tonsofpcs auto-wear-leveling too!
19:00 tonsofpcs RAID 0 != RAID
19:00 Cprossu lol true
19:00 tonsofpcs it's an AID
19:01 Cprossu AIDS if you're dumb enough to save your data on it
19:01 Cprossu btw
19:01 Cprossu cat knocked over my AP
19:01 Cprossu that's why the signal was cutting out from this room I Think
19:02 speedrunnerG55 Ssd should be for the os
19:02 Cprossu yeah they run nice
19:02 Cprossu because you don't care about your os
19:02 Cprossu 'can always reinstall that
19:02 speedrunnerG55 Ah
19:03 Cprossu the build I did has a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167042 for the OS and we'll use http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167043 for the scratch drive
19:03 Cprossu is my feeling
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19:04 Cprossu and EVERYTHING will be in hotswap bays
19:04 Cprossu oX
19:04 Cprossu I like that
19:04 Cprossu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817993020
19:05 Cprossu 2 spare trats
19:05 Cprossu *trays
19:07 ynos Time to go home, have a good night everyone
19:07 ynos is now known as ynos-afk
19:07 tonsofpcs g'nite
19:09 speedrunnerG55 Scratch drive?
19:09 speedrunnerG55 X_x
19:10 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: DruidicRifleman on Power Wheels Robot.....Bill Jones on Power Wheels Robot
19:11 InteliWasp brb
19:11 Seroster .forums
19:11 InteliWasp er wrong window
19:11 Seroster fuck, BotSteve.
19:12 Seroster BotSteve: tell BatSteve EY. Gimme a .forums command. Or else I'll.... Eh. Use the link from my favourites in my browser.... But that would take an entire second more than .forums!  Needless to say I wasted about a minute writig this. Crap. Anyhow...
19:12 Cprossu speedrunnerG55: a scratch drive is one you abuse with processing or temp files in video editing or other types of file manipulation
19:12 BotSteve Seroster: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
19:13 speedrunnerG55 Ohh
19:13 speedrunnerG55 Storage wile you wirk
19:13 speedrunnerG55 Work
19:13 speedrunnerG55 I wonder
19:13 speedrunnerG55 Can you allocate your desktop to use that?
19:13 Cprossu what do you mean?
19:14 speedrunnerG55 Like whenever you drop files onto or in the desktop the dektop resides whithin the scratch drive
19:14 Cprossu uh it's called virtual memory
19:14 speedrunnerG55 Instead of the c drive or...wherever the desktop is
19:15 LinuxH4x0r|mini that seems like it would be pretty easy to do
19:15 LinuxH4x0r|mini at least in linux
19:15 Cprossu yeah but pretty pointless in windows
19:15 LinuxH4x0r|mini good luck with windows
19:15 Cprossu but basically it's a drive you setup for when you run out of ram
19:15 speedrunnerG55 Isnt that the page file?
19:15 Cprossu when you are editing a 20 gig file, 12 gigs of ram won't help you
19:15 speedrunnerG55 Ughh idk
19:16 Cprossu yeah page file vmem, same diff
19:16 Seroster Damn I hate TV
19:16 Cprossu scratch, etc
19:16 Cprossu in this case virtual memory will be on the small SSD
19:16 Cprossu and the scratch for vegas will be on the bigger ssd
19:16 speedrunnerG55 Oh its dedicated for swap memory?
19:16 Cprossu yeah
19:17 Cprossu high end video editing programs will let you specify another hard disk just to use it for that
19:17 Cprossu and my feeling is it'll be a good test for those intel ssd's
19:17 Cprossu it's not required so if it fails, you can just use a spinny disk for that part
19:18 Cprossu if that happens
19:18 Cprossu and since it's just temp you won't really lose anything
19:18 Cprossu it'll hold up perfect for the OS drive though
19:18 speedrunnerG55 Thats cool then
19:18 Cprossu so we don't have to worry about it
19:19 Cprossu if I had it in the budget I'd put a couple of backup ssd's and/or hard drives in the purchase price
19:23 speedrunnerG55 Lol
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19:38 * Python shudders at the mention of 239 unread messages ...
19:39 Cprossu hello tggmc1
19:46 DruidicRifleman eww someone logging in from montreal...
19:47 Nazzy correct me if I'm wrong ... didn't Kandler ship the Haas kit to the kzoo lab in the first place?
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19:50 BotSteve All right, show us on the doll where Seroster touched you.
19:50 Cprossu all I know is they've done work for tgg before
19:51 speedrunnerG55 Hi Seroster
19:51 speedrunnerG55 WB
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20:00 masterofmonks .tfw 32348
20:00 BotSteve 105�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Perry, FL!  'BIKINI WEATHER!'
20:01 * wannabe1987 won tickets to go see green lantern in 3D
20:01 Python cool
20:01 * wannabe1987 also got a Green Lantern backpack, hat, t-shirt, tank top, action figure, and Frisbees.
20:02 Python umm... ok ...
20:02 wannabe1987 i won a prize pack...
20:02 Python enjoy the show
20:02 wannabe1987 thanks...i don't know anything about it
20:02 Python neither do I ...
20:03 Python .g Green Lantern
20:03 BotSteve Python: http://greenlanternmovie.warnerbros.com/
20:07 Nazzy the scary thing about the MDH is it makes the haas machines look small and weedy
20:10 speedrunnerG55 Awesone wannabe1987
20:10 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: DruidicRifleman on Project hick ship... the ontario chapters redneck rocketry program......EightbitBrad on Power Wheels Robot
20:11 Python Nazzy: that is scary
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20:13 wannabe1987 speedrunnerG55 thanks
20:13 wannabe1987 my friend wants the backpack
20:13 Nazzy I didn't realise til the end of the video where it's like "over in this corner are the massive CNC machines"
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20:14 wannabe1987 omg tail!
20:14 wannabe1987 speedrunnerG55_ is furry
20:14 * wannabe1987 pets speedrunnerG55_
20:15 speedrunnerG55_ O_o
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20:17 speedrunnerG55_ is now known as speedrunnerG55
20:17 * DruidicRifleman gets some rusty garden sheer's shoves a bit gag in speed runner's mouth and cuts the tail off
20:18 wannabe1987 much better
20:18 * wannabe1987 stops petting speedrunnerG55
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20:18 wannabe1987 omg theres only one of you o.O x_x
20:18 Cprossu hey tggmc1 how goes patching hell?
20:18 wannabe1987 why is it raining
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20:19 wannabe1987 .tfw 49009
20:19 BotSteve 63�F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT AND WET IN Kalamazoo, MI!  'I've seen better days'
20:19 wannabe1987 hi Hackbat
20:19 Cprossu .tfw 85020
20:19 BotSteve 104�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'HOLY FUCK'
20:19 wannabe1987 damn
20:19 wannabe1987 its raining here
20:19 DruidicRifleman .tfw oshawa
20:19 BotSteve 79�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Oshawa, CA!  'WOO, Spring Break!'
20:19 wannabe1987 i'll give you some rain, Cprossu for some heat
20:19 Cprossu well I can cook an egg on the street here
20:19 wannabe1987 nifty
20:20 wannabe1987 do you?
20:20 Cprossu I did it once
20:20 Cprossu it worked.
20:20 wannabe1987 sweet
20:20 Cprossu not worth eating though
20:20 DruidicRifleman DUDE do it and send the video into tgg
20:20 wannabe1987 lol
20:20 speedrunnerG55 Blinking orange light = bad cable
20:20 wannabe1987 really?
20:20 Cprossu I won't do it until it gets to 112 or so
20:20 speedrunnerG55 Can it be other things?
20:21 Cprossu every switch is different, speedrunnerG55
20:21 Cprossu and every nic too
20:21 Cprossu unless you're not talking about ethernet
20:21 speedrunnerG55 I am
20:22 Cprossu ok, then it could mean anything
20:22 Cprossu the newer computers generally have it mean a speed differential
20:22 speedrunnerG55 -_- this guy is connectig strait to the modem
20:22 speedrunnerG55 No router
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20:22 Cprossu is it a straight through or a crossover?
20:22 Cprossu granted
20:22 Cprossu blinking orange
20:22 speedrunnerG55 Strait through
20:22 Cprossu k
20:22 Cprossu that's good
20:23 Cprossu is it a light on the modem or on the computer/
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20:23 Cprossu speedrunnerG55: ?
20:23 Seroster Ahoy speedrunnerG55
20:23 speedrunnerG55 On the modem
20:23 speedrunnerG55 Not the pc
20:23 Cprossu motorola modem?
20:24 speedrunnerG55 Yes
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20:24 Cprossu what model?
20:24 Cprossu SB5120?
20:25 speedrunnerG55 Sbzb6220
20:25 Cprossu what does the description say next to said orange light?
20:26 speedrunnerG55 Link
20:26 Cprossu btw you meant sbv6220 right?
20:26 speedrunnerG55 Yes
20:27 Cprossu power, recieve, send, online, link, tel 1, tel2, battery
20:27 Cprossu which one is orange?
20:27 speedrunnerG55 Link
20:28 speedrunnerG55 Batery is off
20:28 Cprossu that means you are running 100mb
20:28 Cprossu not gb
20:28 Cprossu so basically just a speed differential.
20:29 speedrunnerG55 Recieve should be blue?
20:29 Cprossu no it shouldn't be anything
20:29 Cprossu but if you have a GB ethernet card
20:29 Cprossu and it's configured properly
20:29 Cprossu it would be blue
20:31 Cprossu or rather 'should be'
20:31 Cprossu but a million different things could cause it not to be
20:31 Cprossu orange doesn't mean fault though.
20:31 Cprossu hey there tggmc1
20:32 Cprossu how goes software patch hell
20:32 wannabe1987 http://www.google.com/  awesome animation
20:33 Cprossu tggmc1 : is steve there yet?
20:33 speedrunnerG55 Links is blinking.
20:33 wannabe1987 its gonna blow!
20:33 * mashpriborintorg is bidding onto a jvc tritube camera instead of watching the moon eclipse, oh god
20:33 wannabe1987 sorry, i'm no help
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20:34 mashpriborintorg So the sun will pass between moon and earth, is it that ? :D
20:35 SparkyProjects I hope not O.O
20:38 Nazzy where's the luna?
20:38 Nazzy and I'm with SparkyProjects ... if that happens I'm getting drunk and crawling in the basement
20:38 SparkyProjects It's happening over Europe at the moment, though it's overcast here
20:38 Nazzy not that that will help any :p
20:39 SparkyProjects It's supposed to be a full lunar eclipse (earth between moon and sun)
20:40 SparkyProjects And one of the longest
20:40 SparkyProjects About 3 hours duration
20:40 wannabe1987 o.o
20:41 mashpriborintorg well, I go to sleep before receiving the sky on my head
20:41 mashpriborintorg cheers
20:41 wannabe1987 night
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20:44 speed-pc how do i remote assistance
20:44 Nazzy I think there is a moon up there
20:44 speed-pc wait a second
20:44 Nazzy it's somewhere behind that mass of rain clouds
20:44 speed-pc that defeats the purpose
20:45 speed-pc GOD DAMN NETWORKING
20:45 wannabe1987 Nazzy  lol same with the sun here
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20:46 speed-pc likei said how do i do that
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20:49 SparkyProjects speed, in system properties find the remote tab
20:49 SparkyProjects Or you can use something like 'logmein'
20:51 speed-pc whats the inccomming and outgoing server names for gmail?
20:52 Cprossu omg I just had a heart attack
20:52 wannabe1987 Cprossu why
20:52 SparkyProjects Sorry, i don't know a lot about remote, Cprossu should be able to help
20:52 Cprossu a tow truck looking like thing pulled behind my car
20:52 wannabe1987 my boyfreind and his family use "logmein"
20:53 Cprossu and they were gonna repo my car I Think
20:53 Cprossu thing is I got it cash
20:53 Cprossu a long time ago
20:53 Cprossu they had the wrong address and they happened to also have a blue neon
20:53 Cprossu they luckily figured it out when they looked at the vin
20:54 Cprossu fucking hell.
20:54 speed-pc nevermind
20:54 speed-pc i found it
20:54 SparkyProjects Cprossu, this vid should amuse you then http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oph7DoNdl1Q :D
20:54 Cprossu I saw that already
20:54 Cprossu I did lol at the time
20:55 Cprossu still I nearly crapped my pants, 'beep beep beep' rumble rumble...
20:55 Cprossu WTF?!
20:55 Cprossu I look out my window
20:55 Cprossu there's a fucking truck with no company name on it
20:56 Cprossu pulling behind my car in the carport
20:56 Cprossu hey steve!
20:56 Cprossu they tried to repo my car!
20:56 Cprossu even though I never financed!
20:56 Cprossu tggmc1 ^
20:56 Cprossu just had a heart attack
20:57 Cprossu or was that not steve (I didn't get a good look)
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21:02 tonsofpcs Cprossu: did they hook it up? break in?  If so, I'd bill them for a new transmission....
21:03 tonsofpcs there's a moon eclipse?
21:03 tonsofpcs oh, not visible from here
21:04 Cprossu thanks for doing updates, person at soon to be jupiter server, tggmc1
21:05 Cprossu evening tggmc1 -steve
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21:07 Cprossu tonsofpcs: they didn't get that far
21:07 Cprossu they backed the truck up
21:07 Cprossu looked at the vin
21:07 Cprossu and were like....crap
21:07 Cprossu they didn't actually lift it up or anything
21:07 Cprossu tggmc1 is the thing even dinging??
21:07 Cprossu someone must have killed the speakers
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21:10 Cprossu killllll the sannnerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr please                                                                                                                                                               ]
21:10 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: DruidicRifleman on Power Wheels Robot
21:11 Cprossu my god it's stuck on a boring channel
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21:12 Cprossu tggmc1 can you kill the scanner?
21:12 tonsofpcs box of toys!
21:13 DruidicRifleman is now known as Druidic_Rifleman
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21:13 * tonsofpcs is going home now, cya all later
21:13 Cprossu ahhhh my hearing thanks
21:13 Cprossu good deal.
21:13 Cprossu more to come too
21:14 tonsofpcs PS, radio-interested folks should watch This Week in Radio Tech tonight at 5 PT/8 ET on live.twit.tv
21:14 Druidic_Rifleman hey tggmc1 did any one ever find the video cards i donated for use in master control?
21:14 Druidic_Rifleman Nvidia gti or gtx 8800's
21:14 dr_jkl Hey. Does anyone in here do 3d modeling?
21:14 injektion Starting this month, the city of Coral Gables will issue warning notices to owners of pickup trucks who do not park their trucks inside their garages at night.
21:14 Druidic_Rifleman i know a geek who does
21:14 Druidic_Rifleman Any from canada?
21:14 injektion A city in FL worth living in
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21:15 tonsofpcs dr_jkl: I _can_.  I haven't in a while (and I don't do organics) unless you count detailed CAD 3D of a VTR :)
21:15 masterofmonks injektion: What?
21:15 Druidic_Rifleman For what felony freedom of amaricanism?
21:16 dr_jkl tonsofpcs: if i asked you to design something in exchange for small green slips of paper could you follow these rules? http://www.ponoko.com/starter-kits/design-rules-3d
21:16 Cprossu sweet
21:16 Cprossu we'll be able to get internet now while the 10b2's connected
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21:16 Cprossu btw the kidwell has a client logged in here at tmbomber
21:17 Druidic_Rifleman My buddy dave could do it
21:17 injektion I hate pickup trucks for other reasons which doesn't involve the people that drive them
21:17 Druidic_Rifleman he worked for savage arms in quality control
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21:18 tonsofpcs dr_jkl: sorry, have to deal with something right now
21:18 tonsofpcs steve ( tggmc1 ) - I'm calling a grass valley service tech right now -- Anything I need to ask?
21:18 dr_jkl tonsofpcs: not like, NMOW now.
21:18 dr_jkl just...
21:18 Cprossu lol I suppose it's worth a shit
21:19 dr_jkl some point in the future.
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21:19 Cprossu tonsofpcs: softkey for the later jupiter software
21:19 Druidic_Rifleman Doc i sent my friend dave an emal i'll let him know if he can work with those rules
21:19 tonsofpcs answering machine.... I'll call back as soon as i finish reading dr_jkl's thing ;)
21:19 Cprossu tonsofpcs did you get the serial number links from yesterday?
21:19 Phu evening :)
21:20 tonsofpcs serial number links?
21:20 Cprossu good deal tggmc1 though.
21:20 Cprossu I had someone try and repo my car today
21:20 Cprossu nearly had a heart attack
21:20 dr_jkl Omg why
21:20 Phu Hi steve
21:20 Cprossu had wrong car
21:20 Cprossu they looked at the vin
21:20 tonsofpcs is steve talking to me at all ? (my audio is off)
21:21 dr_jkl Cprossu: did you tell them to go fuck themself?
21:21 tonsofpcs dr_jkl: I don't think I can export STL or DAE.  I might be able to make a VRML 97 by going through a few conversions...
21:21 Cprossu no I was more polite
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21:21 Cprossu yeah they woulda fucked it up
21:21 Druidic_Rifleman theift
21:21 Cprossu since it's a FWD
21:21 Cprossu and I paid cash for it
21:21 eightbitbrad hey all
21:21 dr_jkl hm.
21:21 Phu steve... I left ustream on last while I fell asleep in the chair... whenever I woke up I heard either your latest commentary, the "I'm calling it a night" at 4am, or the scanner :P
21:21 Cprossu it's an all cash car too
21:22 dr_jkl 'cos yeah.
21:22 dr_jkl i need to have ponoko make my thing
21:22 Cprossu I did that so I'd never have to worry about that sort of thing
21:22 dr_jkl but i am not a 3d modeler
21:22 dr_jkl so i have to farm that out
21:22 tonsofpcs what is your 'thing' ?
21:22 Phu BST (GMT + 1)
21:22 Cprossu wow
21:23 Phu what were you doing all last night anyways?
21:23 Cprossu Phu they are EDT, Phu
21:24 Phu ah good.
21:24 Phu Cprossu: steve said he didn't know what timezone I was in ;)
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21:25 tonsofpcs EDT is UTC-0400
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21:25 Cprossu that's right
21:25 Cprossu same diff in this case
21:25 tonsofpcs GMT is at most 2 seconds off UTC
21:25 Cprossu we are GMT-7
21:26 SparkyProjects The lab is 4 hours behind GMT
21:26 tmbomber still here....
21:26 Cprossu so they are GMT -4 right now
21:26 Cprossu so it maes sense
21:26 Cprossu *makes
21:26 Cprossu even
21:26 tmbomber EST is -5, EDT is -4
21:26 tmbomber and we're daylight savings right now, so GMT-4
21:26 Phu it works for me, because it means my evening is their daytime :)
21:26 SparkyProjects Currently it's 21:26 GMT
21:26 tonsofpcs so what am I asking GVG?
21:27 Cprossu for a softkey for latest jupiter version that supports the AVP 3500 frame
21:27 Cprossu did you get the pictures from yesterday, tonsofpcs?
21:27 Cprossu .log
21:27 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
21:28 Druidic_Rifleman tggmc1 get them to turn up the linkin park?
21:28 Cprossu https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/253960_1877515378533_1260690192_31904774_5051547_n.jpg?dl=1
21:28 Cprossu https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/251063_1877518618614_1260690192_31904789_2944772_n.jpg?dl=1
21:29 SparkyProjects Druidic, if you want to listen to linkin park, try youtiube :P
21:29 Cprossu https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/253912_1877518858620_1260690192_31904790_3456524_n.jpg?dl=1
21:29 Cprossu tonsofpcs: did you get those?
21:29 Phu steve... did anyone figure out the VBI inserter? in a former video Chris seemed to not know what one is. I can explain it, but if you already know its waste of typing ;)
21:30 Phu it can be used for that... VBI (vertical blanking interval) is mainly... yes. closed captioning, or as we call it, teletext subtitles.
21:30 tonsofpcs Cprossu: meh, I got one of the actual camera service techs... completely different division
21:30 Cprossu Druidic_Rifleman: ask another question like that we'll airsoft and paintball you to death
21:30 Cprossu ahhh ok, tonsofpcs
21:31 Cprossu tggmc1: you can bring your fun noodle bazooka too
21:31 tonsofpcs you should see if the local stations there know who the regional sales guy is, put a question in through him.
21:31 Druidic_Rifleman but then i can't hear whats going on on stream
21:31 Cprossu hahaha
21:32 Cprossu I wonder what lanching psi would be lethal at 5 meters
21:32 Druidic_Rifleman Also i have 4 full auto's with in spetsnaz combat rolling distance
21:32 Druidic_Rifleman depends on projectile
21:32 tonsofpcs I would guess that it's through the IL office...
21:32 tonsofpcs Telephone: +1 847 803 8060
21:32 Cprossu we'll render them all useless Druidic_Rifleman, when we sabatoge all your ammo with blanks
21:32 tonsofpcs although it might be through my rep, East: Email: sales.east@grassvalley.com
21:32 tonsofpcs Telephone: +1 201 574 4410
21:33 tonsofpcs or you can just send speedrunnerG55 up franklin turnpike to the GVG office in Ramsey and have him ask at the counter :)
21:33 speedrunnerG55 Hi
21:33 Cprossu no way we would come at you with airsoft and paintball if we knew you had heat!
21:33 tonsofpcs (or is it on prospect?)
21:33 tonsofpcs oh, it's crescent there
21:33 tonsofpcs right at lake street
21:33 speedrunnerG55 ?
21:33 tonsofpcs (well, near lake)
21:34 tonsofpcs speedrunnerG55: take 17 north, get off at crescent ave east, find the GVG building on your left, go ask questions for steve ;)
21:34 Cprossu but Druidic_Rifleman, standard fun noodle, range 5 meters, lethal velocity would be what? and once you get that velocity, what psi would you need to get it there at 5 meters
21:34 speedrunnerG55 What?
21:34 speedrunnerG55 Steve who?
21:34 Cprossu tanks we are using are good for 4500psi
21:34 Cprossu but they don't carry much volume
21:35 Cprossu and we'll likely be using either nigrogen or HPA
21:35 Cprossu *nitrogen
21:35 Cprossu I can't fucking type
21:35 tonsofpcs speedrunnerG55: steve, the one sitting in front of the camera
21:36 * speedrunnerG55 opens stream
21:36 Cprossu I think we can make a case for steve being underneath the camera now though
21:36 Cprossu through a slightly non-viewable concrete vision shield
21:37 Druidic_Rifleman Actually they're good to 900
21:37 Druidic_Rifleman the reg on a Paint ball tank tops out there
21:37 Druidic_Rifleman you need 100 LBS of impact force
21:37 Cprossu http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Carbon_Fiber_Tank_4500_psi_88_cu_ft/350
21:37 Cprossu ^ Druidic_Rifleman
21:38 Druidic_Rifleman to the treachia
21:38 Druidic_Rifleman Soooo If your exicuting someone with it...
21:39 Druidic_Rifleman 200 PSI should do the trick
21:39 speedrunnerG55 ... tonsofpcs i cant drive
21:39 Druidic_Rifleman I wouldn't expect it to work every time
21:39 speedrunnerG55 How far is it
21:39 Druidic_Rifleman hmmm
21:39 Druidic_Rifleman XD i think i found a fill station XD
21:39 Cprossu fun noodle's rarely fly through the air with dignity
21:40 Cprossu so at 5 meters
21:40 Cprossu hrmm
21:40 Cprossu still a lethal fun noodle would be a thing to behold
21:40 Cprossu we could call it the 'unfun noodle'
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21:41 Phu wb steve
21:41 Cprossu how goes our patching?
21:41 Druidic_Rifleman 40 PSI should effectivly do the trick
21:41 Cprossu check this out, this one is a scuba tank
21:41 Druidic_Rifleman NOOOOOO thats a fill station
21:41 Cprossu http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Carbon_Fiber_Tank_4500_psi_88_cu_ft/350
21:41 Druidic_Rifleman NOT a paint ball tank
21:42 Cprossu ok it will still work
21:42 Cprossu it's lightweight enough
21:42 Druidic_Rifleman Paint ball tanks are regulated to 400 or 800 PSI
21:42 Druidic_Rifleman you really would only need 12th that thing though
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21:42 Druidic_Rifleman i wonder if i can put a ninja HPA reg in that babby though...
21:42 Cprossu well you just told us
21:42 Cprossu we need multiple shots
21:43 Cprossu tggmc1 http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Carbon_Fiber_Tank_4500_psi_88_cu_ft/350 <- check this fucker out I bet it costs a bit much
21:43 Cprossu $700 of tank
21:43 Druidic_Rifleman Cprossu
21:43 speedrunnerG55 tonsofpcs: Global vision news group?
21:43 Druidic_Rifleman A 9Cubic inch tank is 250
21:43 Druidic_Rifleman 90 it's a good deal
21:43 Cprossu hahaha
21:43 Druidic_Rifleman thats over 10x as much air
21:44 speedrunnerG55 Gvg creations?
21:44 Druidic_Rifleman the issue is You NEED to regulate the presure DOWN to 800 for saftey reasons
21:44 Cprossu how much time could you spend out in the field with a gun attached to that, Druidic_Rifleman?
21:44 speedrunnerG55 Helo?
21:44 speedrunnerG55 :(
21:45 Cprossu .tfw grass valley
21:45 BotSteve 73�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Grass Valley, CA!  'FUCKING SWEET'
21:45 Cprossu nice
21:45 Cprossu it's fucking hot here
21:45 Cprossu .tfw 85020
21:45 BotSteve 103�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'Better than winter.'
21:45 Druidic_Rifleman Um 5 secionds before you blew the reg the and the guns internals
21:45 Druidic_Rifleman 4500 PSI will destory your gun
21:45 speedrunnerG55 .tfw 07410
21:45 BotSteve 84�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Fair Lawn, NJ!  'Not even PAM can make me not stick to this seat'
21:45 speedrunnerG55 Yah!!!
21:45 Druidic_Rifleman IF it had a proper Paint ball regulator
21:45 Cprossu no I know it would, Druidic_Rifleman through a regulator
21:45 Cprossu duh
21:46 Cprossu yeah
21:46 Druidic_Rifleman Depending on the gun
21:46 Cprossu you bet
21:46 Druidic_Rifleman You could shoot 4 case's
21:46 Cprossu support.dll?
21:46 Cprossu cut it and paste it on the desktop
21:47 speedrunnerG55 tonsofpcs:?
21:47 Cprossu can't hurt to try
21:47 Cprossu I wonder why it loaded just fine on the busted ass machine
21:47 Druidic_Rifleman 10 minutes 15 seconds
21:47 Druidic_Rifleman More if your running a G6r
21:47 Cprossu run install again
21:48 Druidic_Rifleman thats if you shot the entire time and never stopped
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21:48 Druidic_Rifleman you canstay on the field for 40 hours with a 90
21:48 Cprossu c:\windows\temp\support.dll right?
21:48 Druidic_Rifleman CI
21:48 dr_jkl .tfw 33065
21:48 BotSteve 91�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Pompano Beach, FL!  'POOOOOOOOOOOOL!'
21:48 Druidic_Rifleman 4 hours
21:48 speedrunnerG55 Pew pew pew
21:48 speedrunnerG55 Lazows
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21:49 exor674 .tfw quinter, ks
21:49 BotSteve 88�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Quinter, KS!  'Still not appropriate to wear a speedo though.'
21:49 Druidic_Rifleman but if your in heavy fire fight's you can blow through your air in 10 minutes
21:49 Cprossu_Laptop looking for a solution
21:49 injektion .tfw 30281
21:49 Cprossu_Laptop hang on
21:49 BotSteve 92�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Stockbridge, GA!  'Time to crank the AC.'
21:49 Druidic_Rifleman your wallet will hemerage blood like a vampire buffet though
21:49 Phu you could try copying the DLL to c:\windows\system32 - assuming there isn't one already there
21:49 * speedrunnerG55 charging his lazows
21:49 Cprossu_Laptop there was one there
21:49 * speedrunnerG55 fires at tonsofpcs
21:50 eadthem how goes things?
21:50 Cprossu_Laptop just try
21:50 Cprossu_Laptop it's worth a shot
21:50 Phu DLL search paths tend to be system32, windows, application path, etc. apps try multiple places.
21:50 Cprossu_Laptop ok installing it here hang on
21:52 Cprossu_Laptop ok Error-1. Can't load dll C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\support.dll
21:52 Phu creates the dll? thats an odd behaviour...
21:52 eadthem is that the installer rquesting that dll?
21:53 Phu unless its part of self-extracting process.
21:53 Phu my guess is that support.dll is dependent on something else you don't have on the system.
21:53 Cprossu_Laptop yeah we were
21:54 Phu if you fancy a bit of investigation as to what it may be after... http://www.icode.co.uk/icatcher/setup/utilities/DEPENDS.EXE
21:54 eadthem http://www.dependencywalker.com/
21:54 Cprossu_Laptop http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290887
21:54 Phu that will tell you the dependencies of support.dll
21:54 eadthem if you open the EXE and its dlls in dependancy walker it will tell you what else it needs
21:55 eadthem its part of the visual studio stuffs if you have that installed
21:55 Cprossu_Laptop actually tggmc1 ignore that
21:55 Cprossu_Laptop http://download.microsoft.com/download/vb60pro/install/6/win98me/en-us/vbrun60.exe
21:55 Cprossu_Laptop wait 98me?!
21:55 Cprossu_Laptop oh man
21:55 Cprossu_Laptop (tries anyway on his end)
21:55 Phu its not after MSVBVM60.dll is it?
21:55 Cprossu_Laptop hang on
21:55 * speedrunnerG55 pings tonsofpcs
21:56 Phu no I mean is support.dll linked to MSVBVM60.dll
21:56 * speedrunnerG55 finds ip adress
21:56 Cprossu_Laptop ok vb6 runtime didn't work
21:56 Cprossu_Laptop trying vb5
21:56 LeadHead Tryign to get jupiter installed?
21:56 * speedrunnerG55 traces it
21:56 eadthem so this is the installer thats upset then?
21:57 Phu if you want some severe investigation, you can run procmon and find out why support.dll couldn't be loaded (dependencies or otherwise)
21:57 LeadHead What OS are we on?
21:57 eadthem rt click the install exe and in the summery or one of the pages it shuld say witch version of the windows installer it was made with
21:57 eadthem xp something iirc
21:57 * speedrunnerG55 fires mistle at tonsofpcs
21:57 LeadHead Try this
21:57 eadthem err propertys of the exe
21:58 LeadHead Copy the entire contents of the CD to a folder on the desktop
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21:58 LeadHead go to properties on the setup file, and run it in compatibility mode for Windows 2000
21:58 eadthem thats another good possablty
21:58 Cprossu_Laptop I tried didn't do anything
21:59 * speedrunnerG55 rawers at tonsofpcs
21:59 speedrunnerG55 Rawer!!!!!
21:59 LeadHead Where did you gus get Jupiter?
21:59 speedrunnerG55 I give up
21:59 eadthem Cprossu and ##video iirc
22:00 Cprossu_Laptop get that buttoned up
22:00 Cprossu_Laptop I've got a machine to mess with here
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22:05 LeadHead Is the setup extracting the DLL
22:05 LeadHead to the temp folder?
22:05 Cprossu_Laptop oh crap
22:05 speedrunnerG55 Annyho
22:05 LeadHead ?
22:05 speedrunnerG55 Ponko92: Whats up
22:06 Cprossu_Laptop Phu: "No PE Signature found. This file appears to be a 16bit Windows Module"
22:06 LeadHead You're gonna need some Windows 9x
22:06 LeadHead It seems.
22:06 Cprossu_Laptop shouldn't be
22:06 Cprossu_Laptop it was built for NT4
22:06 * Ponko92 hears name being called
22:06 eadthem witch exe gave that?
22:06 Cprossu_Laptop .dll
22:06 Phu ugh
22:06 speedrunnerG55 Hey Ponko92
22:06 Phu 16bit dll...
22:06 Cprossu_Laptop support.dll that it produces
22:07 Phu I assume this isn't being installed on a 64bit os.
22:07 LeadHead so it extracts the dll
22:07 LeadHead but wont load it
22:07 Cprossu_Laptop no
22:07 eadthem and the installer is the one complaing about not having support.dll ?
22:07 Cprossu_Laptop the jupiter server one is complaining
22:07 Cprossu_Laptop tggmc1 the first time you loaded both right?\
22:07 Ponko92 hey speedrunnerG55
22:08 eadthem i still recommend you run jupiter server thrue  dependancy walker   http://www.dependencywalker.com/
22:08 Cprossu_Laptop it didn't even consider it a valid exe
22:08 eadthem it will tell ya if support.dll is depending on something else and etc
22:08 Cprossu_Laptop @ eadthem
22:08 Phu eadthem: he ran it through a dependency walker... it said "can't do that jim" becuause its a 16bit DLL :P
22:08 eadthem that dosent make sense
22:08 * speedrunnerG55 rolls around
22:09 Phu 16bit DLLs are somewhat more limited
22:09 Cprossu_Laptop ahhh
22:09 Cprossu_Laptop Error: At least one file was not a 32-bit or 64-bit Windows module.
22:09 Phu this is a 64bit OS isn't it?
22:09 speedrunnerG55 Alright ill get a laptop running. Get my stream up and get to ch 4-5
22:09 speedrunnerG55 Ok
22:09 Cprossu_Laptop no
22:09 Cprossu_Laptop Phu: nooooooo
22:09 Phu oh? and yet a 64bit reference in the error...
22:09 Cprossu_Laptop it's XP straight
22:10 Cprossu_Laptop I d/led the latest ver of it
22:10 * speedrunnerG55 afrees with Cprossu
22:10 Phu it would make more sense if it was 64bit, because they can't handle 16bit at all.
22:10 speedrunnerG55 Agrees
22:10 Phu but ok.
22:10 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: kvwest on Help on a Co2 scrubber
22:10 LeadHead Did you try compatibility mode for win9x?
22:10 Phu ah... square 1, we meet again.
22:10 Cprossu_Laptop I'm running dependency walker 2.2
22:10 * eadthem pets square 1
22:11 * Ponko92 will be back after he's finished stuff up
22:11 Cprossu_Laptop Download Version 2.2.6000 for x86 (Windows 95 / 98 / Me / NT / 2000 / XP / 2003 / Vista / 7) [610k]
22:11 * eadthem pulls out a glock and shoots square 1 between the corners.
22:11 eadthem what do they mean by MIPS
22:12 LeadHead million instructions per second
22:12 eadthem No. Dependency Walker only supports 32-bit and 64-bit Windows modules. It never has and never will support 16-bit.
22:12 eadthem http://www.dependencywalker.com/faq.html
22:13 speedrunnerG55 Thats frigennalot
22:13 speedrunnerG55 A lot
22:13 LeadHead million instructions per second?
22:13 LeadHead That's shit all.
22:14 LeadHead The top end Core i7s can push >150,000 MIPS
22:15 eadthem ok  open the EXE in notepad   what are the first 2 charcaters that show up
22:15 eadthem the will be a MZ NE LX LE
22:16 exor674 I wonder when we are going to have to start using GIPS or TIPS?
22:16 LeadHead 150,000 MIPS
22:16 LeadHead That's 150 GIPS
22:16 Phu well high end CPUs with built in FPUS already measure in TeraFlops
22:16 LeadHead errr
22:16 LeadHead BIPS
22:16 eadthem further down  but very near the begining  there may be a PE  that is also important
22:16 Phu (FLOating point instructions Per Second)
22:17 Phu by high end, I don't mean consumer CPUs :P
22:17 CaptainBoden Hi guys, what's the sitrep on the console?
22:17 eadthem if thers no PE then its not a 32bit EXE
22:17 LeadHead Software won't install
22:17 eadthem CaptainBoden dll issues  and 16 bit moduels
22:17 LeadHead Rather, Installer won't even run
22:18 eadthem i thought he said it was installed and this was the jupiter giving these errors
22:18 LeadHead Damned if I know, that's all I gathered. I've only been here 15 minutes
22:18 eadthem same
22:18 eadthem ish
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22:19 CaptainBoden What OS does it want?
22:19 LeadHead Cprossu said it was built for NT4
22:20 eadthem dont know   Cprossu is afk and steve is putting the HDD back in      once one of them can crack that thing open in notepad we will know if it needs somethign older
22:20 eadthem if its built for nt4 then it shuld be 32 right
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22:21 LeadHead Yes
22:22 LeadHead One thing to consider as well, is that NT4 was also available on multiple architectures
22:22 LeadHead Alpha, MIPS, and PowerPC
22:22 Ponko92 ok i'm back :)
22:22 Cprossu_Laptop http://www.2shared.com/file/pmj-Wg8R/support.html
22:22 Cprossu_Laptop ^ Phu
22:22 Phu ya?
22:22 CaptainBoden ok, we'll need to find a copy of NT4
22:23 Cprossu_Laptop CaptainBoden: I don't think we'll be let off that easily
22:23 LeadHead NT4 also introduces its own set of problems
22:23 Cprossu_Laptop Phu: download that, see what you find
22:23 LeadHead Mainly drivers
22:23 Phu one sec
22:23 Cprossu_Laptop I have a copy of NT4, CaptainBoden
22:23 Cprossu_Laptop a real one
22:24 Cprossu_Laptop we'll resort to that when we have to
22:24 Cprossu_Laptop I'll upload the iso and give him the key
22:24 tggmc1 .....I am rebooting the system here, what do we know
22:24 LeadHead Strange that software built for a 32 Bit only OS, is using 16 bit DLLs
22:24 Cprossu_Laptop yeah but it's a strange device too, LeadHead
22:24 eadthem Cprossu  just looking at the notepad stuff  i can tell    this dll is not PE or 32bit     and it is most defantly GV/phlips specific " C++ Support DLL for Philips windows install"
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22:25 Cprossu_Laptop eadthem: think we need a c++ runtime instead?
22:25 eadthem http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EXE
22:26 eadthem dont know  that yet   just know that it sas MZ at the begenning  but has no PE anywhere
22:26 Cprossu_Laptop I'm gonna try it hang on
22:26 Phu Do you have an NDDEAPI.DLL on your system?
22:26 eadthem PE beaing 32bit portable exe        dos starts execution at MZ   windows starts 32bit execution at PE      so the  this program cannot be run in dos mode is after MZ  but before PE
22:27 LeadHead Hmm?
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22:27 eadthem support.DLL "Borland C++ - Copyright 1994 Borland Intl."
22:28 LeadHead Borland C++ is a C and C++ programming environment (that is, an integrated development environment) for MS-DOS and Microsoft Windows. It was the successor to Turbo C++, and included a better debugger, the Turbo Debugger, which was written in protected mode DOS.
22:28 tggmc1 I haven't used borland in a while
22:29 LeadHead Borland C++ 5.02 - (1997) Final independent release of the Borland C++ IDE (subsequently replaced up by the C++Builder series), final release to support compilation to (real-mode) MS-DOS target. Windows NT 4.0 officially supported.
22:29 Phu from what I can see... there's nothing unusual that it needs, however, you may need 16-bit versions of kernel.dll, user.dll and nddeapi.dll in c:\windows\system
22:29 Phu (note: not system32)
22:30 eadthem wonder waht it will do to XP to stick 16 bit kernal.dll in c:\windows\system  and accualy use it for a program
22:30 Cprossu_Laptop hmmm
22:30 Phu eadthem: XP should "thunk" the calls to the 32bit kernel
22:30 eadthem thats above me
22:31 pegasus i can't believe Windows7 doesn't already have user.dll et-al in %systemroot%\system
22:31 Phu thunking is basically call translation from architecture to another. So the 16-bit kernel.dll will be intercepted by Windows XP, its calls translated into 32 bit equivalents, the calls made, the results translated back to 16bit verions and returned to 16-bit kernel.dll.
22:32 eadthem so thats how they keep the backwards compatablty
22:32 Phu steve / tggmc1: can you confirm those 3 DLLs are present in C:\Windows\System ?
22:32 eadthem if hes on xp SP3 i doubt it     there not present on myn
22:32 Cprossu_Laptop hrmmm
22:33 Cprossu_Laptop no we installed it last night
22:33 Cprossu_Laptop on the defunked box
22:33 Phu if you need them I have a handy Windows 3.1 box here I can get them from, but it'll take me 10 mins or so.
22:33 Cprossu_Laptop remember, tggmc1?
22:33 Cprossu_Laptop we got through the install just fine before
22:33 * pegasus cracks open a 98SE ISO
22:33 Cprossu_Laptop on the bugged hdd
22:34 Cprossu_Laptop did you run 2 installs that time or just one?
22:34 Phu kernel.dll, user.dll and nddeapi.dll
22:34 Cprossu_Laptop kernel.dll, user.dll and nddeapi.dll
22:34 Phu note the system folder, not system32
22:35 eadthem well i have a 98SE disk we can prise them from if we need    also have a 95  98 and ME
22:35 LeadHead I've got a copy of KERNEL.DLL
22:35 LeadHead right here
22:35 Phu let me know if you want me to boot up the old faithful Dos/Win3.1 box :)
22:35 LeadHead phu
22:35 LeadHead Is kernel.dll 16 bit?
22:35 LeadHead I assume kernel32.dll is the 32 bit version
22:35 eadthem open it in notepad
22:35 Phu check
22:35 LeadHead It starts with MZ
22:36 eadthem first 2 letters shuld be MZ    search for  PE  and if you dont find a PE  in the first part of the file then its 16 bit
22:36 Phu the first two have 32 as a suffix for the 32bit versions, however nddeapi.dll is the same in 16, 32 or 64 bit
22:36 eadthem MZ can be 16bit or 32bit   the PE later on indicates  the place to start 32bit windows execution
22:36 LeadHead Did not find a PE
22:36 eadthem most likely 16 bit
22:37 LeadHead alright
22:37 LeadHead uploading to my dropbox
22:37 pegasus found nddeapi.dll
22:37 eadthem there are exeptions and  windows sytem files are of corse the ones to break the rules sometimes :p
22:37 pegasus in WIN98_38.CAB
22:37 LeadHead tggmc1:
22:37 LeadHead http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1667530/KERNEL.DLL
22:37 Phu pegasus: make sure its the 16bit version, as per eadthem's instructions.
22:37 pegasus seems there's no kernel or user though
22:37 tonsofpcs eadthem: yea, but you can't look for the 'broken' in windows ;)
22:37 tonsofpcs (hi)
22:38 eadthem not shure what you mean tonsofpcs
22:38 tonsofpcs some of the 'breaks' to the windows filesystem are explicitly hidden from windows.
22:38 tonsofpcs theta anyone? :)
22:38 eadthem mm so like the once in a while file that seams to crash explorer.exe every time you open its contaning folder
22:38 eadthem back in the old win9x days
22:39 Phu eadthem: I've crashed Windows 7 doing that before :P
22:39 tonsofpcs you mean the files 'named' \{classidhere} ? :)
22:39 Cprossu_Laptop well I copied the 32bit versions into \system
22:39 Phu you just gotta get the right buggered codec for a video file ;)
22:39 LeadHead tggmc1: disregard that
22:39 eadthem ya thats just stupid   it shuldhnt beable to do that
22:39 Cprossu_Laptop and renamed them
22:39 LeadHead I found a PE in it
22:39 Cprossu_Laptop and it didn't do anything
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22:39 pegasus 0000000: 4d5a 6401 0200 0000 0400 0000 ffff 0000  MZd.............
22:39 eadthem just sugesting   it might be best to get all 3 files from the same person
22:39 eadthem pegasus  search for PE later on
22:39 LeadHead Probably
22:40 Phu Cprossu_Laptop: yeah.. you'll need the 16-bit ones ;)
22:40 Cprossu_Laptop damn
22:40 LeadHead Dunno how I missed that PE at first
22:40 Phu it seems this software is a 32-bit app packaged up in a 16-bit installer.
22:40 eadthem it will be near the top   but after the   must run in windows text
22:40 LeadHead but it was right there near the top
22:40 pegasus $ grep PE nddeapi.dll
22:40 Phu if its NT4-destined, that would make sense.
22:40 pegasus $
22:40 Phu right I'm booting the DOS box.
22:40 Phu one moment.
22:41 eadthem i sware ive never had this much trouble getting old shit to run in xp
22:41 eadthem and ive run a lot of crazy things
22:41 LeadHead The problem is we're dealing with old commerical/industrial hardware
22:41 LeadHead and for some reason
22:41 LeadHead industrial/commerical software writers
22:41 eadthem mmm ya
22:41 LeadHead like to do
22:41 eadthem stupid
22:41 LeadHead err interesting things
22:41 pegasus http://pegasus.pimpninjas.org/nddeapi.dll
22:41 Cprossu_Laptop CaptainBoden is there a copy of 2000 Pro somewhere around?
22:42 tonsofpcs Phu: I got a 64 bit app in a 16 bit installer last week....
22:43 CaptainBoden uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh not offhand
22:43 Cprossu_Laptop fuck. it was worth a shot
22:43 Cprossu_Laptop *Bangs head against wall*
22:43 tonsofpcs CaptainBoden: didn't find the torrent?
22:43 injektion Windows 2000 is abandonware anyway
22:43 Cprossu_Laptop we don't do that here. even so.
22:43 LeadHead Shit, I used to have a 2000 Pro CD with ISO
22:43 LeadHead err
22:44 LeadHead CD-Key
22:44 Cprossu_Laptop legit copy or ass raping pick one
22:44 LeadHead Well it was burned on a CD by a computer guy I knew, and the key was legit at one point
22:45 LeadHead As in, he did buy it new
22:45 injektion Microsoft started blacklisting serial numbers with xp
22:45 LeadHead but it was used on so many computers
22:45 LeadHead Oh
22:45 LeadHead so then it probably wouldn't matter than
22:45 Cprossu_Laptop 2000 doesn't work that way at least
22:45 Cprossu_Laptop a number is a number
22:45 Phu ok... I got 16-bit NDDEAPI.DLL
22:45 eadthem ya the only blacklisting for xp are the ones that ended up on torrents
22:46 Phu but oddly I can't find user.dll or kernel.dll in my Win3.1 or Win95 installs.
22:46 Cprossu_Laptop hmmm
22:46 injektion User.dll is an NT thing I think
22:46 Phu I couldn't find one in my NT4 either
22:46 Cprossu_Laptop how big is your win95 dosbox install?
22:46 Nazzy <eadthem> what do they mean by MIPS <--- Meaningless Indication of Processor Speed
22:46 Ponko92 ok peeps i'll be back in half an hour see you then :)
22:46 Nazzy though after scanning back that far I still don't know what the problem is
22:46 Cprossu_Laptop or do you have a nt4 dosbox install?
22:47 tonsofpcs XP you install with any XP CD, then when it rejects the S/N off the case, call and read it to them, explain that you don't know which variation of the CD came with the system but that it's a critical system that you need back up ASAP, they'll read back the confirmation :)
22:47 eadthem that said they told me next time it would cost 40$ to actvate it   i told them  i payed for all my copys of windows and didnt torrent,   and that they can stick there 40$ up there ------- ---- ---. :p
22:47 tonsofpcs Phu: what are we looking for?
22:47 injektion I hate activating Windows because microsoft treats everyone like criminals when you call for the activation code
22:47 Cprossu_Laptop the jupiter software that seemed to install yesterday isn't installing now
22:47 eadthem of corse i told them after they actvated my xp
22:48 tonsofpcs I hate activating windows because it requires installing windows....
22:48 LeadHead I've used this same XP CD-Key on probably 3 different computers, and at least 4-5 reinstalls on mind
22:48 LeadHead *mine
22:48 eadthem ya my issue was i had to reactavte it 2 times in teh same day   first time  the install went very badly
22:48 tonsofpcs Cprossu_Laptop: i'd try it on 2k...
22:48 LeadHead I just call them and tell them the harddrive went out
22:48 LeadHead they give me the activation code every time
22:48 injektion I've made it a policy not to buy MS software
22:48 Phu http://www.starfleet-net.co.uk/nddeapi.dll if you want it
22:48 tonsofpcs last piece of MS software I bought was Win Vista and that's because the machine was cheaper with Vista preinstalled than without...
22:49 Phu tonsofpcs: well, according to the list at the front of support.dll, it references "USER" "KERNEL" and "NDDEAPI"
22:49 eadthem tonsofpcs  thats bull
22:49 Phu which I assumed were 16-bit DLLs
22:49 Nazzy injektion, see here at work we don't buy windows software ... no, we buy bulk licencing for windows software ¬_¬
22:49 eadthem i thougtht there was a law that said they had to refund your vista copy if you chose not to actvate it on new computers
22:49 tonsofpcs eadthem: it was a dell outlet purchase, prebuilt machine, was much better discount thaan the discount I get from their normal store
22:49 tonsofpcs eadthem: maybe, but it wasn't "new", nor did I care.
22:50 tonsofpcs I didn't use it for like 8 months
22:50 tonsofpcs (resized, put ubuntu on)
22:50 tonsofpcs now I use it because it's the HTPC and I don't want to deal with crap
22:50 tonsofpcs (also, it's the Avid system)
22:50 Phu Cprossu: my "DOS" box, is a triple-boot DOS+Win3.1, Win95 and NT4 machine.
22:50 eadthem there a diffrence between ubuntu and vista?
22:50 eadthem :p
22:50 Cprossu I have a bad feeling about this
22:50 tonsofpcs Phu: my "DOS" box is this: http://www.tonsofpcs.com/portable3/
22:51 Cprossu so the fucking installer is what's getting in our way
22:51 tonsofpcs eadthem: yea, one works sometimes, the other breaks whenever you try installing an update.
22:51 * eadthem = slackware and suse
22:51 Phu tonsofpcs: ah yes, we've got one of them at the Retro Computer Museum... it plays Lemmings very well in DOS ;)
22:51 * tonsofpcs = time is more valuable than dealing with ubuntu
22:51 tonsofpcs Phu: does it?  I use it for flight sim :D
22:51 Cprossu tggmc1 install the other setup
22:52 Cprossu ignore the jupiter server
22:52 Phu yups. I've even got the BIOS setup floppy (erk) around here somewhere
22:52 Cprossu just install the network suite
22:52 Cprossu and when it comes to the server part skip it
22:52 * Nazzy disappears again
22:52 tonsofpcs Phu: CMOS, but can you make me a copy? :D
22:52 tonsofpcs mine got corrupted
22:52 LeadHead Oh, so Jupiter Server
22:52 LeadHead is not what's installing?
22:52 LeadHead err
22:52 LeadHead is what's not installing
22:53 Cprossu yeah we have jupiter network suite and jupiter server
22:53 tonsofpcs tggmc1: have you tried setting the screen res to 1024x768?
22:53 Cprossu we need both I think
22:53 Hackbat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXQAgzfwuNQ
22:53 Hackbat crows D:
22:53 Cprossu tggmc1 L just install network suite
22:53 LeadHead So deal with one thing at a time?
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22:53 Seroster Ey, folks
22:53 Phu tonsofpcs: http://oldcomputers.net/compaqiii.html there are two self-extractors (DOS) here for making 3.5" and 5.25" setup floppies.
22:53 Seroster I got bad news for all of you....
22:53 Seroster Like... Really bad :I
22:53 tonsofpcs oh, he got them? awesome.
22:54 Phu ignore what it says about "they aren't really useful"
22:54 Seroster You all lost THE GAME!
22:54 LeadHead WOW
22:54 LeadHead SO FUNNY!
22:54 tonsofpcs Seroster: http://xkcd.com/391/
22:54 LeadHead I LAUGHED A LOT>
22:54 LeadHead >>>>>>>>>>>.
22:54 Phu they're damn useful for setting up a Compaq Portable III ;)
22:54 tonsofpcs Phu: heh
22:54 tonsofpcs well, most of the stuff is jumper overrides
22:54 Toastdude The Game ended on January 1, 2010, Seroster
22:54 Seroster was kicked by CaptainBoden: Seroster
22:54 Phu like telling it what size HD you got.
22:55 Phu CaptainBoden has earned 5 beer tokens.
22:55 Phu ;)
22:55 tonsofpcs Phu: can you use beer tokens at the barcade?
22:55 Phu pass.
22:55 Phu Phu beer tokens are valid indefinitely should anyone holding said tokens encounter him at any point.
22:56 CaptainBoden Steve, talk, and tell me what's up, I'm wathing the stream
22:56 tonsofpcs ( http://barcadebrooklyn.com/ -- I totally want to open one of these+)
22:57 Phu steve... you can't go to sleep... you gotta keep me entertained until 4am BST! ;)
22:58 Phu right... bbiab.
22:58 Cprossu oh god
22:58 eadthem ?
22:58 eadthem try compat mode 98 and 256 color
22:59 eadthem or compat 2000
22:59 eadthem whats the exact error?
22:59 CaptainBoden it wants a server?
23:00 Cprossu_Laptop wow this is bad. "Run-time error '7': Out of memory" Project1 is on the title bar of the error
23:00 Cprossu_Laptop CaptainBoden: we have the software for both
23:00 LeadHead Project1
23:00 Cprossu_Laptop the server software will not install properly
23:00 LeadHead Really.
23:00 CaptainBoden we need another computer?
23:01 CaptainBoden like, 2 machines for the system
23:01 Cprossu_Laptop I'm gonna go bash my head into a rack be right back
23:01 Cprossu_Laptop no we only need one
23:01 CaptainBoden k
23:01 Cprossu_Laptop one computer can run both
23:01 Cprossu_Laptop at least in their diagram anyway
23:02 eadthem i just read 2 things
23:02 Cprossu_Laptop CaptainBoden I'll be right back after I dent in my head a bit
23:02 CaptainBoden k
23:02 eadthem 1 is related to  the wrong version of riched32.dll
23:02 eadthem other is caused by not having MS office installed
23:02 eadthem netehr make much sense but it is VB
23:02 Cprossu there are vb libs in word and excel
23:02 Cprossu it makes perfect sense
23:03 eadthem also another sugest windows 3.1  or 95   xp compatablty mode
23:03 LeadHead This software has the weirdest set of dependencies
23:03 LeadHead I've ever seen
23:03 injektion I've seen worse
23:04 injektion I've seen what what the state of Georgia forces domestic violence shelters to use to manage them
23:04 eadthem you can also try  256 color mode    disable visual theams(never fixed anything before )   and turn off advanced text services
23:05 CaptainBoden oh this could be cool
23:05 LeadHead This thing isn't fully controlled through ethernet either?
23:05 injektion Getting that abortion to work on anything above XP is not possible
23:05 eadthem it might help at this point to run depends.exe on the jupiter exe thats throwing these errors
23:05 CaptainBoden I wish we could see the computer display on the live stream, odn't we have a scan converter working?
23:05 eadthem altho if its also 16bit that wont work and iirc phu has somethign for those
23:06 CaptainBoden k
23:06 * wannabe1987 watches "day earth stood still"
23:06 injektion brb rebooting for windows updates
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23:09 CaptainBoden did it work?
23:10 tonsofpcs are there not NT or 2000 installation media available?
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23:13 NeWtoz that reminds me, I just got myself a mobile radio for my car
23:13 NeWtoz just got it fully installed last night
23:14 tonsofpcs kind?
23:14 injektion I need to find a car radio that has weatherband
23:15 NeWtoz yaesu ft-7900r
23:15 eadthem btw is NOAA AM FM or SSB?
23:15 NeWtoz 2/70
23:15 NeWtoz + wb
23:15 injektion I know is that the 24 year old radio in the car now has it but the radio is shitting out
23:16 eadthem Set the brightness all the way down on the LCD
23:16 eadthem there we go
23:16 LeadHead Focus man
23:16 CaptainBoden put the tripod down, lol
23:16 LeadHead there you go
23:16 LeadHead almost
23:16 LeadHead yup
23:17 injektion Crutchfield doesn't carry one that I like
23:17 LeadHead Bootup request?
23:17 eadthem OOO  its booting and trying to connect to a bootP server
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23:17 LeadHead Yeah, so it's trying to communicate with jupiter server then?
23:17 eadthem well it has no disk   it runs diskless
23:17 eadthem aparently
23:18 eadthem so its trying to load the OS
23:18 tonsofpcs eadthem: FM
23:18 eadthem ya
23:18 tonsofpcs i forget the deviation
23:18 LeadHead and the server won't install
23:18 eadthem well dont be so shure it needs server
23:18 eadthem the jupiter netowrk thing may work
23:19 eadthem checking manual
23:19 LeadHead Firmware version 5?
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23:19 eadthem still its good news   its not dead   and its thinking
23:19 speedrunnerG55_ Hi
23:19 LeadHead Are we sure this is the correct jupiter version for that firmware revision?
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23:19 eadthem just dosent know what to think :p
23:20 eadthem can you type that version out?
23:20 tggmc1 5.1.0
23:20 eadthem what was the version of software Cprossu found?
23:21 LeadHead So it's somwhat similar to how a thin client works
23:21 LeadHead then
23:21 eadthem it sounds like it
23:21 tonsofpcs eadthem: if you want, I can check the local one with a specan next time I visit it....
23:21 eadthem ?
23:22 Toastdude Hi speedrunner
23:22 tonsofpcs but i think it's 5kHz
23:22 tonsofpcs eadthem: NOAA weather radio
23:22 eadthem o he said FM
23:23 LeadHead Is there a network connection
23:23 LeadHead to the pc?
23:23 eadthem can you try wireshark and see if its getting the packets?
23:23 eadthem but of corse this is assuming the software is there for it to listen to
23:23 eadthem err server
23:24 tonsofpcs yea, the SAME specification lists 80% as +-4kHz, 'maximum' as +-5kHz
23:24 eadthem it runs on rj45 right
23:24 LeadHead No, thinnet
23:24 LeadHead coax.
23:25 eadthem no dose the card run on rj45
23:25 eadthem right
23:25 eadthem but dose the rj45 work
23:25 eadthem k  good
23:25 eadthem is the rj45 side unplugged?
23:26 tonsofpcs is the card set (in device manager, properties, either a tab or advanced) for 10mbit half-duplex?
23:26 eadthem what was the name of the card agan?
23:26 * tonsofpcs loads stream so he can see respone
23:26 eadthem net something
23:26 Cprossu OK I've got orange julias now
23:26 Cprossu what's the deal?
23:27 LeadHead He hooked a serial cable to the console
23:27 LeadHead and fired up hyper terminal
23:27 Cprossu did he get anything back?
23:27 LeadHead The console is trying to contact the boot server
23:27 LeadHead but it can't find anything
23:27 eadthem Cprossu its looking for a BOOTP server  but the bnc isnt connecting
23:27 LeadHead So it is a alive
23:27 LeadHead and trying to do something
23:28 eadthem what was the name of the card
23:28 eadthem it was lnenet2 or something
23:28 LeadHead Our best guess at this point is that it seems similar to a thinclient, in that it's worthless without a server
23:28 Cprossu ahh
23:28 LeadHead We did get the firmware version though
23:28 eadthem device manager   card propertys    advanced tab   media type
23:28 Cprossu that explains a bit
23:28 Cprossu hang on again
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23:28 LeadHead It's running Firmware 5.1.0
23:28 eadthem what tabs ?
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23:28 injektion It's going to use the DHCP servers IP for the BOOTP server unless your able to configure the DHCP server differently
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23:31 eadthem the thinnet has   termintor   T on the card   cable   T on unit   cable T on switch box terminator
23:31 eadthem right?
23:33 Cprossu indeed
23:34 Cprossu firmware 5.1?
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23:34 LeadHead 5.1.0
23:34 LeadHead the zero matters!
23:34 Cprossu let me find the upgrade path again
23:35 Cprossu interestingly enough the v6 version is called 'combo'
23:36 tmbomber Hiya everybody!!!
23:36 Cprossu man this is crazy
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23:36 Cprossu wow
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23:37 Cprossu so the server running then the frame boots off the server
23:37 Cprossu then the server communicates to the surface?
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23:37 Cprossu *frame communicates to the surface
23:37 Cprossu so basically we need jupiter server running
23:38 Cprossu let me go fish for a manual for that alone
23:38 Cprossu perhaps there will be some clues
23:38 Cprossu on prereq's
23:38 Cprossu k
23:38 tmbomber Is there still a need for a 10base2 to 10baseT bridge???
23:38 Cprossu don't take anything sharp back up with you
23:38 Cprossu yes
23:38 Cprossu there is
23:38 tmbomber or some 10base2 cards???
23:38 Cprossu we're banging our head with a 10b2 card
23:39 tmbomber running down to my basement to get the hub
23:39 Cprossu yes
23:39 tmbomber yes, yes it is :)
23:39 Phu hey Paul :)
23:39 tmbomber Hiya!!!
23:39 Phu long time no IRC
23:39 tmbomber I should be at the lab tomorrow night.... (Gemini tuning on Friday)
23:39 Druidic_Rifleman A kidwell?
23:39 Druidic_Rifleman Behave people he can insta ban you...
23:40 tmbomber heeheehee
23:40 tmbomber back in a sec
23:40 Cprossu we'll get as far as we can today though
23:41 Cprossu oh tmbomber do you know where we could get a shit ton of Analog Composite to SDI converters? ^_^ (as a lol)
23:41 eadthem in network connections  go to propertys on the network card   then  list the conneciton uses the folowing items
23:43 eadthem theres also a config button  it may show more advanced options paticuarly the media type
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23:46 tmbomber back...
23:46 Cprossu tggmc1 : Do you have anthing in your collection which says "Field Engineering Bulletin" for the installation of the software?
23:47 tmbomber I have just placed a nine port 10baseT to 10base2 hub with two "T's", two terminators, and a couple lengths of 10base2 cable into the back of my car.
23:47 eadthem tmbomber you wer around when pepole use thinnet    would you remeber   dose a dual  BNC/RJ45 network card namely a linksys LNEPCI2  require some sort of voodoo to make it work over BNC?
23:47 Cprossu that's actually not a bad point, tmbomber
23:48 Cprossu I wonder if they have any hubs old enough to have a built in bnc
23:48 eadthem with all the donations  i was thinking the same thing     qustion is   where is it :p
23:49 tmbomber it shouldn't... is it an isa card? you might have to set jumpers to configure the irq and i/o address.
23:49 eadthem PCI
23:49 Cprossu no it's pci
23:49 tmbomber k...
23:49 * Ponko92 has returned
23:49 eadthem could be the bnc jack is just fryed   and the rj45 by chance still works
23:49 tmbomber I'll try and grab a bunch of 10base2 nic's from the crib at my office tomorrow.
23:50 tmbomber that's possible... are you usint T's and terminators on the ends of your cables???
23:50 eadthem could also be the wearded out driver
23:50 eadthem ya hes got it teed and terminated
23:51 Ponko92 alright peeps fill me in whats happpend over the past half hour
23:52 eadthem not much    no bnc connection    softwares still suffring from VB dll hell   and while the app works  i dont beleve the server dose
23:52 eadthem and they got hypertemrinal watching the debug output of the MC
23:52 eadthem its waiting for a bootp server
23:53 Ponko92 good good leaste there was SOME progress
23:53 Ponko92 lol
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23:53 eadthem atleast we know its thinking
23:53 Ponko92 umm lets hope it doesn't do a skynet then
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23:54 eadthem ?
23:54 Seroster Netsplit
23:54 Seroster They will be back momentarily
23:54 Seroster .w netsplit
23:54 BotSteve "In computer networking, specifically Internet Relay Chat (IRC), netsplit is the disconnection of a given node from the previously established network or between two nodes." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
23:55 Seroster There you have all the information you could ever need
23:55 eadthem i was referncing his skynet thing
23:55 eadthem ive been on irc sense 2006
23:55 Seroster ...Right. =P
23:55 injektion I've been on IRC since 1998
23:55 eadthem wow your old  :p
23:55 Seroster I've ben on IRC since 1936.
23:55 Seroster Beat that.
23:55 Cprossu bahhhhh
23:55 Cprossu If the software is being installed for the first time, follow the procedure in the Field Engineering Bulletin.
23:56 injektion IRC did not exist in 1936
23:56 tonsofpcs could it be a 'newer' one that is internally terminated?
23:56 injektion eadthem, I'm 24
23:56 Seroster injektion, That's the joke...
23:56 eadthem Cprossu  funny i dont see a feald engineering bulitin
23:56 tmbomber I wasn't on irc... but there was this thing called CompuServe...
23:56 eadthem ya ive herd of it  what was compu serve
23:57 eadthem some sort of ISP?
23:57 Cprossu I remember compuserve, it went to shit after AOL bought it out
23:57 Ponko92 yeah when it thinks for itself eadthem
23:57 Ponko92 anyway lol
23:57 tmbomber yup... and it was an isp before there was an i
23:57 eadthem aaa   dial in bultiin boards
23:57 Cprossu I still remember being charged per minute for dial up
23:58 tonsofpcs eadthem: kinda.
23:58 tmbomber sorta.... I was 76515,2373... (note the five digit first number. that was bragging rights back in the day)
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23:59 LeadHead Heh, people still do that
23:59 injektion I never got to experience compuserve
23:59 LeadHead Except it was the other day in Counter Strike, some guy was bragging about his 6 digit Steam ID
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