Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-06-17

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00:00 speed-ppc http://forums.somd.com/news-current-events/15262-1-dead-disneyland-ride-mishap.html
00:05 Seroster ppc?
00:05 speed-ppc oh
00:05 speed-ppc is now known as speed-pc
00:05 Cprossu I'm thinking rofl
00:06 Seroster speed-pc, well... Fine way to die.
00:06 speed-pc at last it wasnt pcb
00:06 speed-pc yes it is
00:06 Cprossu speed-pc: there
00:06 Seroster Hundreds die every day by drowning in their own vomit in old folk homes. Or you can die while at DISNEYLAND
00:07 Seroster Let me think... Yeah. I'll pick disneyland.
00:07 Cprossu modified for a laugh
00:07 Fulsy So we just add stuff to the disclaimer?
00:07 Cprossu yep
00:08 Seroster Eh?
00:11 lwq1996 joined #thegeekgroup
00:12 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Cprossu on Duck's Computer
00:12 lwq1996 hi
00:12 astro73|derial is now known as astro73|derrial
00:13 * lwq1996 is bored
00:13 Cprossu hi all join the fun in making a really long disclaimer for CaptainBoden's Captains Blog video at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sis6_2eZd9DxiwcHcomtrDmUo6FdgIKPOfgYALJo5h4/edit?hl=en_US&authkey=CIuH5-UF
00:15 Hackbat joined #thegeekgroup
00:17 Seroster Eh?
00:20 Cprossu Hackbat: join in the fun of producing the next captains blog disclaimer
00:20 Cprossu https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sis6_2eZd9DxiwcHcomtrDmUo6FdgIKPOfgYALJo5h4/edit?hl=en_US&authkey=CIuH5-UF
00:20 Seroster Any links to the old one?
00:20 Cprossu no.
00:20 Cprossu other than reading it in the youtube video
00:21 Cprossu https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sis6_2eZd9DxiwcHcomtrDmUo6FdgIKPOfgYALJo5h4/edit?hl=en_US&authkey=CIuH5-UF
00:21 Cprossu whoops
00:21 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgDb4WGkv9s&feature=player_profilepage#t=640s
00:21 Cprossu ^ old disclaimer
00:21 Seroster "In any instance where Chris Boden raises his voice, please mute the video. Otherwise, permanent hearing damage may occur."   Like shoving a live grenade in your ass MAY cause rectal problems?
00:21 Hackbat I think you should add something like, "Offers made in videos not available in North Korea or Cuba."
00:21 Cprossu then go ahead and add it
00:21 * Hackbat is LAAAAZY
00:22 Cprossu come on click the link
00:22 Cprossu and just type
00:25 lwq1996 wow this is gona be an awsome disclamer
00:25 Seroster Whos the one with shitty grammar? =P
00:25 Cprossu not I
00:25 Cprossu and it'll be fixed by someone
00:25 Seroster "out the back of a van who got a PhD"
00:25 Seroster So... You are giving Phds to vans? =D
00:25 Cprossu hey you can always delete
00:25 Seroster Cprossu Yes, I fixed it ;P
00:25 Hackbat there
00:25 Cprossu just add!
00:25 lwq1996 im the one that cant type
00:25 lwq1996 im a 14 year old what do u expect
00:25 Seroster It's allright mate ^^
00:26 Cprossu .tfw 85020
00:26 BotSteve 105�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'Don't own a grill? Just use the driveway.'
00:26 Seroster Err
00:27 Cprossu hah hah hah
00:27 Hackbat D:
00:27 eadthem .tfw 99999
00:27 BotSteve Unknown location
00:27 Hackbat my wonderful work ish gone
00:27 lwq1996 ugg who took off my part
00:27 Hackbat .tfw 22727
00:27 BotSteve 79�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Madison, VA!  'uh, can we trade?'
00:28 Nazzy is there a technical difference between living dead and undead?
00:28 lwq1996 ops nevermind
00:28 Fulsy .tfw 6483
00:28 BotSteve 73�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Seymour, CT!  'I approve of this message!'
00:28 Cprossu Nazzy: I think not
00:28 Cprossu I LIKE IT
00:28 lwq1996 damn me and my spelling
00:29 Nazzy :)
00:29 lwq1996 i cant type on this keyboard....
00:29 Kafka Nazzy: well, living dead seem to be dead bodies brought to life, while undead usually refers to a state separate from life and death entirely
00:29 lwq1996 i need a regular desktop one
00:29 Seroster Hehe
00:29 Cprossu ooh I got one
00:30 tesla4d HEY. Thoughts on CRT repair?
00:30 Kafka tesla4d: don't try it unless you're damn sure.
00:30 tesla4d Yeah, I thought so.
00:30 tesla4d I'll drag it to the next hackerspace meeting.
00:30 Seroster tesla4d, depends on what kind of repair
00:30 eadthem what kkn
00:30 eadthem what kind of failure?
00:30 tesla4d I think the high voltage supply is out.
00:31 tesla4d The monitor comes on, and detects an incoming signal, but there's no image, at all.
00:31 Seroster That isnt crt repair, that's crt monitor repair =P
00:31 tesla4d AT. ALL.
00:31 tesla4d bitch, you think I'm a glassblower?
00:31 tesla4d Of course I'm not patching up the tube.
00:32 Seroster You just need a hellova straw to make the vacuum =P
00:32 tesla4d I'm just disappointed now because I thought I had an extra monitor so I could dual-screen, but I actually don't. D:
00:34 Nazzy loss of the game?! dude, that meme is dead already, just let it go
00:34 Seroster I have an extra monitor, but my computer is too retarded to understand the concept of dual monitoring =P
00:36 tesla4d I'd ask what you want for it, but the shipping expense would be astronomical.
00:36 CaptainBoden hey guys
00:37 CaptainBoden I need a bootable linux CD that will do exhaustive hardware testing, like video memory tests, all manner of shit.
00:37 CaptainBoden Someone has to have invented this, I need a url.
00:38 Nazzy CaptainBoden, mmm, Hiren's Boot Disk?
00:38 Seroster "Results may vary, variance may result." <3
00:39 Cprossu that one is nice
00:39 Nazzy thanks Seroster, you reminded me what I meant to add to that
00:39 Cprossu but I like Ultimate Boot CD
00:39 Cprossu .g Ultimate Boot CD
00:39 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
00:39 Cprossu @ CaptainBoden
00:40 Cprossu also CaptainBoden, your disclaimer is getting longer
00:40 Nazzy is someone removing line spacing?
00:40 Sgt_Lemming +1 vote for UBCD
00:40 CaptainBoden I'm watching
00:40 Cprossu so there'll be some really nice stuff in there
00:40 Cprossu stop removing line spacing
00:40 Cprossu whoever's doing it
00:40 CaptainBoden I need exhaustive hardware testing, what is the best
00:40 Cprossu ultimate boot cd works great.
00:41 Nazzy apparently I can't spell puncture today
00:41 Cprossu checkit used to have a good suite too but they also cost money
00:41 tesla4d Yeah, "Someone has to have invented this" is a real bitch. Often not true, and even when it is, there's always a money/distance/finding it problem.
00:42 Cprossu rofl
00:42 Cprossu some of this stuff is really good
00:43 * tesla4d is still wishing somebody made a laptop that could be used as a KVM combo. It'd be awesome for technicians, but nobody makes one.
00:43 Cprossu I actually had a scan converter mounted to a laptop
00:43 Cprossu with a svideo cap card
00:44 Cprossu it made doing things so much nicer
00:44 Nazzy downs syndrome is complex genetic error as I remember
00:44 Cprossu oh god
00:44 Cprossu (stops looking)
00:45 Cprossu I'm walking away from this and seeing what happens to it
00:45 Seroster Eh?
00:45 tesla4d Nazzy, "complex" is the wrong word. It's just an extra chromosome.
00:46 Nazzy that's complex
00:46 tesla4d It's got a shitload of different symptoms, but it's just an "Ooops, oh shit" moment when the germ cell splits and accidentally gets both copies of... Chromosome 21, I think.
00:46 Seroster Cprossu
00:47 Seroster I think its dying now
00:47 lwq1996 LOL I LOVE DOING THIS
00:47 Seroster =D
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00:47 tesla4d It's not really complex, any more than cutting the line coming out of a hydraulic pump is complex. It breaks a lot of stuff, but it's really one, simple, failure.
00:48 Fulsy Yea, it's kinda degrading
00:51 Nazzy grr, someone is removing the enters again
00:51 Fulsy Can't wait for Boden to read this
00:52 Seroster Nazzy, isnt it supposed to be a text block?
00:52 Obtuse_ joined #thegeekgroup
00:52 Nazzy not yet
00:52 Nazzy it's hard to edit as a big text block
00:52 tesla4d What are you guys watching?
00:52 Seroster tesla4d,  CREATING
00:52 Seroster WE ARE MAKIN A MONSTER!
00:52 Seroster https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sis6_2eZd9DxiwcHcomtrDmUo6FdgIKPOfgYALJo5h4/edit?hl=en_US&amp;authkey=CIuH5-UF
00:52 Hackbat hydralics are dangerous
00:53 Hackbat so a phuematics
00:53 lwq1996 EVERYONE MAKING THE DISCLAIMER PUT YOUR NAMES AT THE BOTTOM OF IT
00:53 Hackbat Ar
00:53 Seroster Hackbat, so are forks. Anything is if you are stupid enough
00:53 Hackbat well steam can cutt you
00:53 Hackbat can I get the link to the doc again
00:53 Hackbat highpressure fluids are scary
00:54 Seroster Oooops, I hit bold instead of size ->11 xD
00:54 lwq1996 IK
00:54 Seroster Sorry bout that folks
00:57 Seroster Sorry Hackbat :P
00:57 Hackbat :P
00:58 Seroster But since it was in the end of a bigass legal disclaimer I should be ok
00:58 Fulsy The disclaimer is a bunch of hatecrime mush about now
00:58 Cprossu it'll be gotten rid of
00:58 Seroster Ofc
00:58 Fulsy well, let's write more proper stuff
00:59 Fulsy so it'll surpass the original disclaimer more.
00:59 Cprossu errrr
00:59 Seroster I thought it was supposed to be as long and ridicilous as possibleu?
00:59 Seroster And possibleu is french. Dun ask how I know that.
00:59 Cprossu 10 people here?!
00:59 Seroster 5 and some anons
00:59 Cprossu where is this link going
01:00 Cprossu 6 and some anons it looks like?
01:01 lwq1996 IN THE CAPTAINS BLOG VIDS HOPFULLY
01:01 CaptainBoden WU TANG CLAN AIN'T NOTHIN TO FUCK WITH!
01:01 Cprossu I mean the link only went out here o_O
01:01 eadthem Do not taunt happy fun ball,  what is that
01:01 pegasus https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Quantum_wire -- do want
01:02 Seroster CaptainBoden, I didnt know you could get e-juice with weed flavour? =P
01:02 CaptainBoden lol
01:04 Seroster Btw, what has ben the wierdest flavour so far?
01:04 LinuxH4x0r joined #thegeekgroup
01:04 Druidic_Rifleman ... i know someone who put cum in her ecig...
01:04 Seroster And wierd is defined as something that you only smoked once and said "WTF?" and never touched again
01:05 LinuxH4x0r dude!
01:05 Seroster Druidic_Rifleman, Great way to ruin a delicate piece of electronics ^^  Did the very same person use cum to clean the sensor of his camera?
01:05 lwq1996 WTF ERROR
01:06 Hackbat I wonder if you could get e juice with K2 in it
01:06 Druidic_Rifleman it was a chick for one and no she wou;dn't
01:06 Druidic_Rifleman wouldn't
01:08 Cprossu .cookie
01:08 BotSteve Here you go, Cprossu, I baked you a mocha cappuccino cookie!
01:08 lwq1996 .cookie Bot
01:08 BotSteve Here you go, Bot, I baked you a white chocolate mocha cookie!
01:08 lwq1996 .cookie BotSteve
01:08 BotSteve For me?  Thank you!  *om nom nom*
01:09 Hackbat .cookie
01:09 BotSteve Here you go, Hackbat, I baked you a Moravian spice cookie!
01:09 Fulsy .cookie
01:09 BotSteve Here you go, Fulsy, I baked you a black-and-white cookie!
01:09 Fulsy Yay!
01:09 Fulsy .cookie
01:09 lwq1996 RACIST
01:09 BotSteve Here you go, Fulsy, I baked you a ginger cookie!
01:09 Nazzy "Toilette's syndrome" <-- who ran the spell checker? lol
01:10 Fulsy Lmfao
01:10 Fulsy .cookie
01:10 BotSteve Here you go, Fulsy, I baked you a white chocolate cranberry cookie!
01:10 Fulsy YAY
01:10 lwq1996 EVER CRANBERRYS
01:11 eadthem i was thinking of all the things the radioactive boyscout used :p
01:11 Seroster Cprossu, your disclaimer went great until it fucked up and it degraded into a live trolling session =P
01:11 exor674 randomly, why do they call perfume "eau de toilette"
01:12 exor674 which apparently literally translates to toilet water
01:12 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Slurpy on Duck's Computer
01:13 Cprossu OMG
01:13 Cprossu who did that?
01:14 Cprossu lool
01:14 Seroster Owtf
01:14 Seroster Cprossu... Save it in a word doc
01:14 Seroster When it is still there
01:14 Seroster xD
01:14 lwq1996 THATS AWESOME
01:15 Seroster Speaking about racist.... =P
01:15 Nazzy I think it's getting out of hand :/
01:15 lwq1996 WTF
01:15 Cprossu rofl you might be right
01:15 Seroster Nazzy, It did a fucking hour ago xD
01:16 Nazzy Seroster, at least then it was creatively out of control
01:16 eadthem calutron spelled correctly
01:16 eadthem ?
01:16 tonsofpcs Cprossu: awesome
01:16 Seroster Finally got the situation under semicontrol
01:17 Cprossu tonsofpcs: feel free to add stuff
01:17 Cprossu I am sure some will be removed... like 1/2 of it
01:17 Seroster OW MY EYES
01:17 Cprossu who keeps doing that?
01:17 lwq1996 what the hell who put a pic of captain
01:17 Seroster HAAHA, that pic
01:17 Seroster WTF
01:17 Seroster He sume fat there mate!
01:17 Nazzy Cprossu, think it might be time to lock it
01:18 Seroster Cprossu, I think you should copypaste it to your computer
01:18 Cprossu already done
01:18 eadthem i got a archive alredy
01:18 Seroster Good
01:18 Hackbat THE FACE D:
01:18 eadthem was just wating for someone to start deleting and replacing with garbage
01:18 Seroster cprossu you might want to do that again in an hour or so, provided it still exists then
01:18 Cprossu keep on going though
01:18 Hackbat Captain looked like the Troll face for a second.
01:19 Seroster Eadthem ctrl + A  I HATE CHILDREN!
01:19 eadthem dont assume its children
01:19 eadthem thats age descrimnation
01:19 Seroster Err
01:19 eadthem :p
01:19 Seroster I was just suggesting what would be concidered "garbage"
01:21 Seroster Lol, who is trolling with his picture?
01:21 Fulsy TrollBoden
01:21 Fulsy I screened this for lulz
01:22 Seroster xD
01:22 Seroster Ey folks....
01:22 Seroster Copypaste link to 4chan, when we think we have exhausted all new ideas
01:22 Cprossu Seroster: if you want to do that
01:23 Cprossu make your own google doc
01:23 Seroster Cprossu xD I won't do that
01:23 eadthem what name do i show up under btw?
01:23 Seroster But it would give sme fresh shit
01:23 Fulsy 4Chan will wreck any hopes of TGG ever becoming a credible organization
01:23 Cprossu fuck we have 4 pages
01:23 lwq1996 yes
01:23 Cprossu we probably only needed one
01:23 eadthem naw  just scroll it by real fast on the bottom of the screen
01:24 lwq1996 :( come on keep atleast the 3 good ones
01:24 Fulsy 4Chan is a battlefield anyway from Lulzsec
01:24 eadthem make it like a easter egg    move it like 5 lines a frame
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01:30 tesla4d Maaan. My HP A1097A monitor won't work with any of my computers except the HPUX workstation I got it with.
01:30 tesla4d Laaaame.
01:30 Cprossu HPUX workstations are awesome though
01:31 tesla4d Yeah, but I don't have any use for it right now, and I need another monitor.
01:34 Cprossu looks like we are about done (actually reads some of it
01:34 Cprossu_Laptop left #thegeekgroup
01:34 Cprossu CaptainBoden I hope you have some good editors
01:35 lwq1996 i hope they can if it all in
01:35 Cprossu they can't
01:35 tgg_Liz left #thegeekgroup
01:35 Fulsy "Chronos Bowden"
01:35 lwq1996 :(
01:35 Cprossu ok anyone got anything else to add?
01:35 eadthem editors?
01:35 Cprossu before I lock the file?
01:35 lwq1996 hmmm im good
01:35 Fulsy I'm good
01:35 eadthem its perfect right now   just put it in vegas
01:35 Cprossu chime in if you want to dump anything else in
01:36 egrsteve joined #thegeekgroup
01:36 Cprossu deploying freeze in 5.4.3.2
01:36 egrsteve brrrrr
01:36 tesla4d NOOOOOO
01:36 tesla4d Oh, wait...
01:36 tesla4d Carry on.
01:36 Cprossu hey egrsteve
01:36 Cprossu I HAVE A KEY
01:37 egrsteve is toastdude here, I need his toaster to warm up
01:37 Cprossu for 6.2.1
01:37 egrsteve captain called me
01:37 Nazzy Cprossu, want to give me write access?
01:37 Cprossu the kidwell brought in a media converter too
01:37 egrsteve so I was also told
01:37 Cprossu what user are you Nazzy?
01:37 egrsteve I will be in the lab tomarrow evening 5-6ish edt
01:37 Nazzy (oh and tack "Do not reverse the polarity, no matter what Wesley tells you.  It never helps." on the end of the polarized parts paragraph, I don't think it went through)
01:38 Nazzy it doesn't seem to tell me
01:38 Nazzy I'm which ever user just said wark
01:38 speed-pc meh
01:38 egrsteve for those of you in west michigan, there will be 2 ISS passes tonight
01:38 speed-pc i cant get in
01:39 egrsteve ISSThu Jun 16/10:15 PM65710 above WSW10 above NE
01:39 egrsteve ISSThu Jun 16/11:55 PM21818 above N11 above NE
01:39 Cprossu speed-pc: I locked it
01:39 egrsteve lasting 6 and 6 min respectivly
01:39 speed-pc oh
01:39 egrsteve * 6 and 2
01:39 Cprossu you should read what I post here in irc
01:40 speed-pc oh
01:40 Cprossu oooh
01:41 Cprossu I had to edit that
01:41 Cprossu Any resemblance to real persons, living, dead, living dead or self aware computer programs, or Mythbusters is purely coincidental.
01:41 Cprossu hehehehe
01:41 Cprossu Any resemblance to real persons, living, dead, living dead, self aware computer programs, or Mythbusters is purely coincidental.
01:41 Cprossu have to say it outloud
01:41 egrsteve i wonder of I will be able to hear iss when it wasses
01:41 egrsteve *passes
01:41 tesla4d I would have left it at "living, dead, or living-dead."
01:42 tesla4d Shorter is better with humor like that.
01:42 Nazzy I may be anon 18... I rejoined just before 21
01:42 eadthem this disclamer shuld have something for zomb as well
01:42 Cprossu editing is allowed again
01:43 Cprossu I just wanted to give it a quick look over
01:43 Nazzy google docs just became French?
01:43 Cprossu I have no clue but brb
01:44 egrsteve captainboden ISS pass ISSThu Jun 16/10:15 PM6 min57 deg (elev)10  above WSW (approch)10 above NE (depart)
01:44 egrsteve it takes 5 watts to hit ISS a directional anntena is best but the one on the radio may work
01:45 egrsteve Uplink:145.2000 MHz FM Downlink145.8000 MHz FM
01:45 Cprossu_Laptop joined #thegeekgroup
01:45 egrsteve or Uplink:144.4900 MHz FM Downlink145.8000 MHz FM
01:45 Nazzy tidied up the end a bit
01:46 egrsteve iss is also passing at 11:55 for 2 min
01:47 Cprossu looks good
01:48 Cprossu CaptainBoden: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sis6_2eZd9DxiwcHcomtrDmUo6FdgIKPOfgYALJo5h4/edit?hl=en_US&amp;authkey=CIuH5-UF
01:48 Cprossu I haven't given it a good going over yet
01:48 Cprossu but it's looooong
01:50 Fulsy I'm still loling over Trollface Boden
01:50 Nazzy I have, a couple of times, nothing excessively offensive is jumping out now
01:50 Fulsy so glad I got a screenshot of that
01:50 Cprossu ss of what?
01:50 Cprossu troll boden?
01:50 tesla4d I want to see this trollface
01:51 Fulsy When someone put a picture of Chris Boden on the disclaimer
01:51 speed-pc oh boy
01:51 Fulsy and someone stretched it out so it looked like a troll face
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01:51 speed-pc -___-
01:51 Cprossu rofl injektion missed all the fun
01:51 Nazzy perhaps the raped by a doctor bit could stand to be tweaked
01:51 injektion What fun?
01:51 Fulsy I'll upload it in a sec if people wanna see it
01:51 speed-pc a google cod for the disclaimer
01:51 injektion I was at band practice
01:51 Cprossu we were tasked with producing a new disclaimer for captains blog
01:51 speed-pc doc
01:52 Cprossu https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sis6_2eZd9DxiwcHcomtrDmUo6FdgIKPOfgYALJo5h4/edit?hl=en_US&amp;authkey=CIuH5-UF
01:52 speed-pc it was epic
01:52 Cprossu ^ this is the 'cleaned up' version
01:52 Nazzy urg, and please nuke the "and loss of the game" bit from the top of page 2
01:53 Cprossu ??
01:53 Nazzy the game meme ceased being funny a long time ago
01:53 Cprossu lol
01:54 speed-pc crap
01:54 speed-pc i lost
01:54 Fulsy Dammit
01:54 Fulsy DAMMIT CORY
01:54 Fulsy Trollboden or Us dicking around: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8733190/trollboden.JPG
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01:54 Fulsy open it in a new window
01:54 Cprossu injektion: got anything you want to add?
01:55 Nazzy "In Case Of Resonance Cascade Break Glass to use Crowbar." <-- caps are excessive
01:55 injektion Cprossu: Not at this moment I'm tired
01:55 eadthem thats a good one
01:55 mantere left #thegeekgroup
01:55 injektion I struggled to get The Emulator II working because of the damn 5 1/4 inch floppy drives were acting up
01:56 Cprossu In case of Resonance Cascade Event break glass to use enclosed crowbar.
01:56 injektion I just saw that XD
01:56 Fulsy In Case of Trollboden
01:57 injektion It is illegal to willfully remain near or approach wildlife, including birds, Hynemanns and Bodens, within ANY distance that disturbs or displaces the animal.
01:57 Cprossu that came mostly from the yellowstone park site
01:58 eadthem anyone ever noticed in HL2  that freeman alwase pushes the cart toward 1 side of the beam
01:58 injektion Someone add "Prometheus was punished by the gods for giving the gift of knowledge to man"
01:58 Nazzy opinion on "We are also not responsible if you are raped by the doctor that you are visiting. "?
01:58 Cprossu injektion: that's good enough
01:58 Nazzy injektion, I'm different!
01:58 Cprossu to add above the fart
01:59 Cprossu Prometheus was punished by the gods for giving the gift of knowledge to man.
01:59 Cprossu *Fart noise*
01:59 Cprossu DAMMIT CORY
01:59 Fulsy lol that was me
02:00 speed-pc lol
02:01 speed-pc .cookie isnt there
02:01 BotSteve Here you go, isnt there, I baked you a dark chocolate cranberry cookie!
02:01 speed-pc o_o
02:01 Nazzy o_O
02:01 Cprossu WARNING: contents of disclaimer may appear to be a chat room (psst #thegeekgroup on freenode)
02:01 Fulsy .cookie Rick astley
02:01 BotSteve Here you go, Rick astley, I baked you a molasses cookie!
02:01 Cprossu shameless irc plug!
02:01 eadthem whows bright idea was it to make 2x2's 1 7/16 x 1 7/16
02:01 speed-pc but .cookie isnt there
02:01 tesla4d .cookie BotSteve
02:01 BotSteve For me?  Thank you!  *om nom nom*
02:01 Fulsy .cookie Rick Astley
02:01 BotSteve Here you go, Rick Astley, I baked you a shortbread cookie!
02:01 eadthem and then lable them 1 1/2 x 1 1/2
02:01 Cprossu that was pretty funny
02:01 Fulsy .cookie Captainboden
02:01 BotSteve Here you go, Captainboden, I baked you a molasses cookie!
02:02 Fulsy .Cookie cookie
02:02 tesla4d .cookie me
02:02 BotSteve Here you go, me, I baked you a black-and-white cookie!
02:02 Cprossu .cookie RED
02:02 BotSteve Here you go, RED, I baked you a black-and-white cookie!
02:02 Fulsy .cookie Rick Astley
02:02 BotSteve Here you go, Rick Astley, I baked you a frosted sugar cookie!
02:02 speed-pc :D
02:02 Cprossu .cookie RED
02:02 BotSteve Here you go, RED, I baked you a M&M's cookie!
02:02 Fulsy .cookie Nyan
02:02 BotSteve Here you go, Nyan, I baked you an almond cookie!
02:02 speed-pc is red here?
02:03 Cprossu no it was for the disclaimer
02:03 Cprossu since .cookie got deleted
02:03 Cprossu [19:03] <The Credits Team> .cookie RED
02:03 Cprossu [19:03] <+BotSteve> Here you go, RED, I baked you a M&M's cookie!
02:03 speed-pc oh
02:04 Cprossu it's on page 1
02:04 speed-pc :D
02:04 Fulsy .cookie Le Fulsy
02:04 BotSteve Here you go, Le Fulsy, I baked you a white chocolate macadamia nut cookie!
02:05 Fulsy Botsteve is gonna start charging
02:06 Nazzy ah, now I remember the format ... Cprossu "The Geek Group is licensed to thrill, where held applicable and subject to the state of a dress."
02:06 Nazzy (Who's dress? Her dress!)
02:06 Cprossu what?
02:07 Nazzy second paragraph
02:10 speed-pc how manny charicters wide is the document?
02:10 Cprossu wait a sec
02:10 Cprossu xD
02:10 Cprossu there's no magic smoke in here yet is there?
02:11 Nazzy yes
02:11 speed-pc how manny charicter wide is it
02:11 Cprossu toooo many
02:11 speed-pc lol ok
02:11 Cprossu they'll have to fix it on their own
02:11 Nazzy When dealing with polarized electrical parts (Diodes, Capacitors, etc.) PLEASE connect them the right way around. Smoking Diodes will occur otherwise. Smoke is non-refundable.
02:11 Nazzy Also, blown selenium rectifiers will emit a smell similar to a bathroom violated by Kidwell.
02:11 Nazzy Do not reverse the polarity, no matter what Wesley tells you.
02:11 speed-pc i was thinking ascii art for the title
02:11 speed-pc what you think
02:11 Cprossu no
02:11 speed-pc ok
02:12 Cprossu it'll fuck up when they change the font.
02:12 speed-pc ok
02:12 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: kvwest on Help on a Co2 scrubber
02:12 egrsteve ISS t- 3 min
02:13 Nazzy was h2so4
02:13 Nazzy :p
02:13 egrsteve be back in a few, I'm going to go listen for ISS
02:13 Cprossu how do I do subscripts?
02:13 speed-pc lol nice
02:13 Seroster !All electricity is conducted by trained wiring.  We wish the same could be said for the people who try to imitate the wires." <3
02:14 Nazzy Seroster, yeah, I'm rather proud of that one
02:14 egrsteve listening now
02:14 egrsteve 145.8
02:14 Nazzy I'm not certain you can do subscript
02:14 Seroster =)
02:14 Seroster But the best part is
02:14 Seroster Prometheus was punished by the gods for giving the gift of knowledge to man.
02:14 Seroster *Fart noise*
02:14 Seroster DAMMIT CORY
02:14 speed-pc egr Mhz?
02:14 egrsteve it should reach an elevation over 50 deg
02:14 egrsteve Mhz
02:15 Seroster I have no idea if that was intentional or just wtflulz
02:15 Seroster But it kicks ass
02:15 Seroster Corys ass.
02:15 Nazzy there is a term for this ... Crowd Sourced
02:16 egrsteve iss should be at horizon in GR
02:16 speed-pc :D
02:16 speed-pc i remember when my towns amature radio club made contact with the iss for questions from students at the school
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02:17 speed-pc it was awesome
02:17 egrsteve I have no idea if they are actave right now
02:18 Seroster Ey BatSteve-Away?
02:18 Seroster Why are you always away when I want you?
02:18 Cprossu Federal emissions regulations do not cover the primary component of electronics, Magic Smoke. Since Magic Smoke emissions are proportional to the amount of kludging used, the national Corporate Average regulations are the primary way in which electronics Magic Smoke emissions are regulated in the U.S.
02:18 Seroster Is it that... woman?
02:18 Seroster Cprossu I read that five times and I still dunno what it says. Perfect for a legal document.
02:20 Cprossu Federal emissions regulations do not cover the primary component of electronics, Magic Smoke. Since Magic Smoke emissions are proportional to the amount of kludging an individual or company would do, the national Electronics Corporate Average regulations are the primary way in which electronics Magic Smoke emissions are regulated in the U.S.
02:21 Seroster BotSteve: tell BatSteve If you havent got your daily aaaws today here's one for ya! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asOVKZ-fYzA&amp;
02:21 Cprossu xD
02:21 BotSteve Seroster: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
02:21 Nazzy would do is wrong tense :/
02:21 speed-pc federal regulation require me to say this disclaimer is...loking good!
02:21 speed-pc looking*
02:21 Cprossu could do
02:21 Cprossu ^ fixed
02:21 Nazzy does... will do... could do ... all good options
02:22 Seroster I wanna pet tiger :c
02:22 Nazzy though with could do you should have "potential Magic Smoke emissions"
02:22 Seroster In my one room apartment. That would be totally epic
02:22 egrsteve just watched iss transit
02:23 egrsteve no contact :(
02:23 speed-pc aww egrsteve
02:23 Cprossu awwww :.(
02:23 egrsteve it was a nice high pass on a clear night, brightest thing in the sky
02:23 Cprossu egrsteve: do you see anything we should add/subtract from the disclaimer?
02:24 egrsteve hmm
02:24 egrsteve needs 1.21 jigawatts
02:24 Cprossu rofl you are right
02:25 egrsteve federal regulation does not apply when exceeding powers of 1.21 jigawatts
02:25 Nazzy Cprossu, "Since potential Magic Smoke emissions are proportional to the amount of kludging an individual or company could do"... need the potential :)
02:25 Druidic_Rifleman ... is it OK to place bets on the odds of a member of tgg killing them selfs with a project...
02:25 Seroster For some odd reason my cat has developed a taste for the sound of glass breaking
02:25 Cprossu no it's not OK
02:26 Seroster She pushes them off the kitchen sink and watches them explode in a million pieces.
02:26 Druidic_Rifleman thought so.
02:26 Seroster And then she plays with the shards ^o)
02:27 speed-pc /ns identify nick pass?
02:27 Cprossu egrsteve: page 2
02:27 Nazzy Druidic_Rifleman, depends on the project and how many other members have identified against it
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02:27 Nazzy speed-pc, yes, but not in a channel ;)
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02:28 egrsteve page 2 of what?
02:29 speed-pc ##electronics
02:29 Nazzy that whole [Redacted] paragraph is one of mine :)
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02:31 Fulsy I did the whole think on high voltage, Cory farting, portal jokes, and the quality degrading thing
02:31 Fulsy *thing
02:32 Cprossu so how many KKK references are still in it?
02:32 Cprossu hmmm just one
02:33 Cprossu I think the side effect paragraph needs working on
02:34 Nazzy yeah, just the one
02:34 Nazzy some of the portal ones are mine
02:34 Cprossu I also added some portal ones
02:34 Cprossu at least 2
02:34 Fulsy yea
02:35 Fulsy I added the little thing about portal joke expiration
02:35 Nazzy "the incapability to hold stuff" <--- that just doesn't scan properly
02:35 Cprossu I know what I should do
02:35 Cprossu hang on just a moment
02:37 Nazzy I need to go nom nom... shall return shortly
02:38 Cprossu nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, headache, fever, dizziness, disorientation, weakness, fatigue, hair loss, bloody vomit, bloody stools, infections, poor wound healing, low blood pressure, and death
02:40 Cprossu complex vocal tics for tourettes
02:44 Cprossu The side effects may include but are not limited to: nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, headache, fever, dizziness, disorientation, weakness, fatigue, hair loss, bloody vomit, bloody stools, infections, complex vocal tics, barking, poor wound healing, dementia, loss of automatic movements, rigid muscles, violent tremors, a slight perceived blue shift in the Orion Nebula, low blood pressure, inability to spell, spontaneous combustion, and death.
02:45 eadthem o crap  it affected me 25 years ago
02:46 Cprossu use of chris boden however cannot result in pregnancy, who added that?
02:46 Cprossu CaptainBoden: leave in "strong urge to mock the KKK" or not??
02:47 Cprossu leaving in for now
02:47 Cprossu Please note that the quality of the disclaimer will continually degrade until we have people banging on the keyboards saying: �LOL I DISCLAIM U LOLOLO�. This is normal and should be expected when you ask a bunch of random blokes to write a disclaimer.
02:47 Cprossu Gender/sexuality/existence/sanity of author/reader/all powerful supreme being are not implied or required by this disclaimer.
02:48 Nazzy I added the second line to disclaim the first :)
02:49 Cprossu Please note that the quality of the disclaimer could possibly continually degrade until we have people banging on the keyboards trying to complete sentences like  �HULK SMASH�. This is normal and should be expected when you ask a bunch of random blokes to write a disclaimer.
02:49 Nazzy oooh, like that tweak
02:49 Cprossu normal and should be expected when you ask a bunch of random blokes on the Internets to write a disclaimer.
02:49 Cprossu xD
02:50 eadthem on a IRC channal
02:52 speed-pc we wrote a program in school were it added 2 pairs of registers together, then since it could only display 2 charicters at a time he had to halt it then disply the second set, so i was like why dont we make a subroutine and have a delay (a program we wrote earlyer that had a doubble nested loop)
02:56 Cprossu I think we should put the relativity statement back in
02:56 Cprossu I really liked that
02:58 Cprossu Current quantum physics theries suggest that during and after the procuction of this video, it may cease to exist, travel through a wall, or only exist in a vague and undetermined state.
02:58 Cprossu whooops
02:58 Cprossu Current quantum physics theories suggest that during and after the procuction of this video, it may cease to exist, travel through a wall, or only exist in a vague and undetermined state.
02:58 Cprossu Current quantum physics theories suggest that during and after the production of this video, it may cease to exist, travel through a wall, or only exist in a vague and undetermined state.
02:59 speed-pc :D
02:59 Nazzy You may not simultaneously know the current content this disclaimer and how fast it is scrolling up the screen.
03:00 egrsteve remember in spaceballs when they fast forwarded to find them, there need to be a clause about fastwording and changing the furure
03:00 egrsteve I like that nazzy
03:00 egrsteve as you have to pause it to read it anyway
03:00 Cprossu rofl
03:01 Cprossu egrsteve: make it and I'll add it
03:01 Nazzy you mean .... "Straight to Tape, the new advance in home video entertainment.  The tape is in stores before we've finished filming!"
03:01 egrsteve yes that secene
03:02 Cprossu hahaahah
03:02 Cprossu Current quantum physics theories predict that during and after the production of this video, it may cease to exist, travel through a wall, or only exist in a vague and undetermined state.
03:02 Cprossu ^ final
03:03 Nazzy that whole tenses back and forth thing was way too hard to quote
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03:03 Cprossu not final
03:04 Cprossu changing theories to 'models'
03:04 Cprossu may to could
03:04 Cprossu Current quantum physics models predict that during and after the production of this video, it could cease to exist, travel through a wall, or only exist in an otherwise vague and undetermined state.
03:04 Cprossu xD
03:05 egrsteve we are not liable for space time fluctuations caused by fastworwarding straight to tape editions
03:05 egrsteve of this production
03:06 eadthem anyone think 672 lumens of light is enuff for a 8 foot bench
03:06 egrsteve rewinding is however encoraged
03:06 egrsteve I would think so
03:06 * egrsteve gets out sunglasses
03:07 Cprossu We are not liable for space time fluctuations caused by fast-forwarding straight to tape editions of this production,  rewinding is however encouraged. Be Kind, Rewind.
03:07 eadthem now my issue    i need 4 22 inch circutboards
03:07 egrsteve I like it
03:07 Cprossu this or any other production!
03:07 Cprossu ahhaha
03:08 egrsteve I assume this is for the captains blog
03:08 Cprossu happy with that.
03:08 Cprossu yep
03:08 Cprossu he has 1/2 of it to cut out though
03:08 Nazzy eadthem, cat5, sharp knife, soldering iron... problem solved
03:09 Nazzy Cprossu, wha!? whhhhhy
03:09 egrsteve is there the full disclaimer somewhare right now?
03:09 eadthem ya i kinda wanted  a tiny bit of heatsinking via the copper
03:09 Cprossu because otherwise the disclaimer will be 1/2 the video lol
03:09 Cprossu egrsteve he didn't give us any text copies
03:09 Cprossu I transcribed a bit of it
03:09 eadthem and the chain will have 256.2 volts on it  so might be nice to have something simi sturdy simi  safe
03:09 egrsteve I mean the version we are drafting
03:09 Nazzy just because it's 5 pages long
03:10 Cprossu yeah there is
03:10 Nazzy 256.2 volts.... why?
03:10 Cprossu egrsteve: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sis6_2eZd9DxiwcHcomtrDmUo6FdgIKPOfgYALJo5h4/edit?hl=en_US&amp;authkey=CIuH5-UF
03:10 Cprossu I thought I gave you the link
03:10 eadthem 80 leds  and the active PFC cirut i designed works nicely in the 240 -280V range
03:10 egrsteve no, I did loose conection after logging in briefly
03:10 eadthem 65 lumins a watt   not bad at all
03:10 Cprossu ahhh ok
03:11 Cprossu https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sis6_2eZd9DxiwcHcomtrDmUo6FdgIKPOfgYALJo5h4/edit?hl=en_US&amp;authkey=CIuH5-UF
03:11 Cprossu there's some funny ass shit in there too
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03:16 egrsteve
03:17 Cprossu scary isn't it?
03:18 egrsteve it is
03:19 egrsteve needs more random IRC inclusions, maybe the nerf battle
03:19 Cprossu ooooh
03:20 egrsteve that was epic
03:20 eadthem opinions   is it better to use a isolation transformer on your oscope  or on the unit under test
03:21 egrsteve o-scope should be grounded for safety reseasons and measurement ref, I would say DUT
03:21 egrsteve or find a differential probe $$$
03:21 eadthem what if the UUT is also on a variac
03:21 speed-pc hi im back
03:21 Cprossu We cannot be held responsible for any Lethal Air Powered Fun Noodle Projectile Lanchers (LAPFNPL) misuse.
03:21 eadthem mmmya thers a point  i do have diverental mode
03:21 eadthem difrental mode
03:22 egrsteve one end of the variac is connected to neutral (or line if miswired)
03:22 egrsteve so if neutral reffed it should have the same base potential os ground
03:22 Cprossu We cannot be held responsible for any L.A.P.F.N.P.L. (Lethal Air Powered Fun Noodle Projectile Lancher) misuse.
03:23 eadthem i think what i shuld also do is get a nonstandard cord for the oscope  and have a alwase on nonstandard outlet in the test box
03:23 egrsteve I like the noodle launcher
03:23 speed-pc loll
03:23 eadthem or hell just cut the end off a IEC cord and hard wire it to the control box
03:23 eadthem paint it orange
03:24 Sgt_Lemming http://notalwaysright.com/his-argument-will-lose-him-ground/12037
03:25 astro73|derrial not always right has great stories
03:28 Cprossu astro73|derrial: I need a fresh set of eyes
03:28 Cprossu https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sis6_2eZd9DxiwcHcomtrDmUo6FdgIKPOfgYALJo5h4/edit?hl=en_US&amp;authkey=CIuH5-UF
03:28 Cprossu look this over
03:28 Cprossu I'll be right back
03:29 Cprossu this will be the base for the new captains blog disclaimer.
03:29 egrsteve it's best described as wonderful madness
03:29 astro73|derrial "subject to the state of a dress."?
03:29 Cprossu if you want anything added too let me know
03:30 astro73|derrial .... it seems long enough
03:30 speed-pc for external use only.....for oral use only ???
03:30 Cprossu that was a Nazzy thing I think
03:30 speed-pc lol
03:30 Nazzy "subject to the state of a dress" is mine
03:31 astro73|derrial and the IRC log?
03:31 Nazzy which, the cookie? that's Cprossu
03:31 Cprossu just some randomness
03:31 astro73|derrial "with-out" is without a dash
03:31 Cprossu that was actually in a legal copy pasted doc
03:31 Cprossu that I found
03:32 astro73|derrial ....
03:32 astro73|derrial wow
03:32 Cprossu still fixing
03:32 Cprossu fixed.
03:32 Cprossu it coulda been one page to another
03:33 Cprossu *this is why I needed fresh eyes to look at it, rofl*
03:35 astro73|derrial .... i think it's fine
03:35 astro73|derrial could use bigger, blockier paragraphs, though
03:35 astro73|derrial instead of short 1-line ones
03:36 astro73|derrial lots of missing spaces, though
03:38 Cprossu it will be
03:38 Cprossu look how it condenses in the videos
03:39 Cprossu because they use fewer columns
03:39 Cprossu at least I think it does
03:39 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgDb4WGkv9s&amp;feature=player_profilepage#t=640s
03:39 Cprossu *counts*
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03:40 Cprossu might be 80
03:40 Cprossu wow
03:43 Cprossu *condensing everything now
03:44 speed-pc it might be a different format, shoulnde it be bigger than that
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03:45 speed-pc ... they might make it in a different format.. and shouldnt it be bigger annyway?
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03:46 speed-pc RED!
03:46 speed-pc hi red
03:46 Cprossu current one is 2 pages + ~ 10 lines
03:46 REDoutofstate Hey internet :)
03:46 Cprossu hey REDoutofstate want to see something horrifying?
03:46 REDoutofstate ....maybe?
03:46 REDoutofstate lol
03:47 Cprossu captain tasked us with making a new disclaimer screen for the c. blog
03:47 Cprossu https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sis6_2eZd9DxiwcHcomtrDmUo6FdgIKPOfgYALJo5h4/edit?hl=en_US&amp;authkey=CIuH5-UF
03:47 Cprossu ^ here's the text
03:47 Cprossu of what we came up with
03:47 Cprossu (feels like he just intro'd the blair witch project)
03:50 * astro73|derrial gives REDoutofstate a hug
03:50 REDoutofstate Oh boy!
03:50 * REDoutofstate hugs astro73|derrial
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03:52 REDoutofstate Loving the disclaimer.
03:53 egrsteve oh red is here
03:53 * speed-pc hugs red
03:53 REDoutofstate Hey egrsteve <3
03:53 egrsteve ignore other message I sent you
03:53 * REDoutofstate hugs speed-pc
03:53 egrsteve hi red, what sends you out of state?
03:54 egrsteve cprossu, 2 things I noted
03:54 egrsteve umm... let me find them again
03:54 Cprossu k
03:55 egrsteve I think they have been fixed as I can't find them again
03:55 REDoutofstate egrsteve: My dad won a racing award...so we're at the banquet for it. It's a lifetime achievement award.
03:55 Cprossu fucking awesome!
03:55 egrsteve that is awesome
03:55 Cprossu egrsteve: I've been going through it and fixing things too
03:56 egrsteve noticed, it's hard to read when your removing blank lines and the whole thing is moving
03:56 Cprossu yeah
03:56 Cprossu well I am done with that now
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03:56 egrsteve also noticed
03:57 egrsteve I saw when you passed where I was reading
03:57 egrsteve then I was like ahh
03:57 REDoutofstate <3
03:57 BatSteve-Away is now known as BatSteve
03:57 BatSteve yo
03:57 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
03:57 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
03:57 BotSteve At 16 Jun 18:52Z, LinuxH4x0r asked me to tell BatSteve Druidic_Rifleman says what about a botsteve do comand?
03:57 BotSteve At 02:21Z, Seroster asked me to tell BatSteve If you havent got your daily aaaws today here's one for ya! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asOVKZ-fYzA&amp;
03:57 BatSteve awesome!
03:58 BatSteve Cprossu: did I miss the edit window for the disclaimer?
03:58 Liz_Home hi
03:58 Cprossu yeah but I can put it back in
03:58 Cprossu want to edit?
03:58 BatSteve not yet, I haven't actually read it yet, just clicked to open
03:58 Cprossu k
03:58 BatSteve don't know if I'll have anything to contribute
03:58 BatSteve hi liz
03:58 REDoutofstate Hey BatSteve <3
03:58 BatSteve hey red!
03:58 speed-pc BatSteve: !! :D
03:58 REDoutofstate ^_^
03:58 Cprossu you have to contribute something, BatSteve
03:58 Liz_Home can i get that link cprossu? i've been told i have to read it :P
03:58 Cprossu yeah
03:58 Liz_Home hi batsteve
03:59 Cprossu https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sis6_2eZd9DxiwcHcomtrDmUo6FdgIKPOfgYALJo5h4/edit?hl=en_US&amp;authkey=CIuH5-UF
03:59 Cprossu BotSteve contributed, so you have to contribute, BatSteve xD
03:59 astro73|derrial hi lize
03:59 Cprossu also Liz_Home you can add something too
03:59 egrsteve but he contributed botsteve
04:00 Liz_Home kk
04:00 BatSteve Cprossu: be careful what you wish for, the first thing that came to my mind was "Not responsible for consequences of clicking any links that Cprossu accidentally pastes into channel"
04:00 Liz_Home thanks
04:00 Liz_Home hi astro
04:00 Cprossu hahaha
04:00 astro73|derrial hi bats
04:00 Cprossu ok I am enabling edit mode, just be aware everyone
04:01 BatSteve I do enjoy "Please have the schoolin' for technology"
04:03 NeWtoz Field Day, planning needs to start for the GR people
04:04 egrsteve when is field day this year?
04:04 astro73|derrial what is field day?
04:04 NeWtoz 25 and 26 I think
04:04 egrsteve 25-26
04:04 BatSteve hey astro
04:04 BatSteve what's up?
04:04 NeWtoz Field day is a ham radio event
04:05 REDoutofstate <3
04:05 NeWtoz there is a wikipedia article somewhere
04:05 NeWtoz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_Day_%28amateur_radio%29
04:05 astro73|derrial nothing, trying to figure out as much as I can about that display before having to actually spend money
04:05 NeWtoz so basically we have a week to find a location and plan
04:06 egrsteve looks like w8dc is hosting in east grandrapis
04:06 NeWtoz ah
04:06 Cprossu Love that one
04:07 BatSteve holy cow
04:07 BatSteve was that you?
04:07 NeWtoz oh gosh, w8dc uses a marquee
04:07 Cprossu no
04:07 Nazzy someone just deleted half it ¬_¬
04:07 Cprossu who did that?
04:07 BatSteve luckily there's undo
04:07 Nazzy bad person
04:07 egrsteve there site is outof date and um not to friendly
04:08 Cprossu don't forget to add your name
04:08 Cprossu so captain knows who to [strike]shoot[/strike] thank
04:08 egrsteve looks like it's at calvin collage
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04:09 Nazzy Cprossu, you thought the "We expect you to work that one out for yourself" was too much?
04:09 Cprossu yeah it was funnier without it
04:09 NeWtoz I guess if TGG doesn't do one, I'll go there
04:09 Cprossu it looks like a legal statement if you are just reading it fast
04:10 Cprossu Nazzy, know what I mean?
04:10 Nazzy true
04:10 egrsteve we don't have the equipment to host one (we don't have a station yet) I would rather wait till tgg is open and we hopefully have a station on the air
04:11 NeWtoz makes sense
04:11 NeWtoz but we wouldn't need much
04:11 egrsteve once we have the cafe open and an occupancy permit we could do it
04:11 egrsteve I assume equipment could be barrowed
04:11 NeWtoz but I don't have any equipment besides 2m/70
04:11 astro73|derrial ... what do you need the occupancy permit for? having people?
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04:12 NeWtoz fire code I'm guessing
04:12 egrsteve neither do I but I know where I could probably find some to be loaned for a day
04:12 egrsteve having the facility open to the public ie not members oly
04:12 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: NeWtoz on Geek Group Amateur radio club.....astro73 on Project Log: Large HVL Voltage Display
04:13 NeWtoz it all depends if you thing TGG is ready or not
04:13 NeWtoz if not, I'm sure the one at calvin college will do
04:13 Nazzy *grin* I like the word aperture, it covers so many obstructable objects
04:13 speed-pc cprossu, error 1406 in installation OFFICE 2010?
04:13 speed-pc 2007* not 2010
04:14 egrsteve I don't think we will be ready to host anything big, if a few members wanted to come out and get on the air togther that may be doable
04:15 Cprossu do we have a stepper motor joke in here?
04:15 NeWtoz well, my first field day had less then 10 people at it
04:15 Cprossu speed-pc: I've seen that before
04:15 Cprossu install .net
04:15 NeWtoz and I had fun
04:15 egrsteve myabe we couple string a dipole for 20m off of the roof or something
04:15 Cprossu up to 4
04:15 Nazzy our cctv cameras are not something to watch while stoned .... the outside camera is in a fishbowl weather shield .... there's some sort of centipede like creature exploring the outside of the glass
04:15 Cprossu starting at 1.1
04:15 Cprossu you have a corrupt .net file if memory serves me, speed-pc
04:16 Nazzy every so often this "alien" wiggles across the picture
04:16 egrsteve nice
04:16 speed-pc TY Cprossu
04:16 REDoutofstate http://www.flickr.com/photos/dawnboertman/5840922825/in/photostream
04:17 Nazzy Cprossu, there you go, a stepper motor
04:17 Cprossu I got an idea
04:18 Cprossu "Caution: This may or may not be a stepper motor, yo."
04:18 astro73|derrial REDoutofstate: nice clouds. Where are those? :P
04:18 REDoutofstate That's from when we went to the beach, Astro.
04:19 BatSteve REDoutofstate: I saw the lighthouse
04:19 egrsteve all voiced coils should be limited to .1337 bodens
04:19 BatSteve did you see my graffiti?
04:19 REDoutofstate http://www.flickr.com/photos/dawnboertman/5840923391/in/photostream
04:19 Cprossu so pretty, REDoutofstate <3
04:19 REDoutofstate ^_^
04:19 Nazzy those are some veeery pretty clouds
04:20 REDoutofstate I love clouds. <3
04:20 REDoutofstate They're so intrigueing.
04:20 Nazzy I'd link you some more but my gallery is not online currently lol
04:21 REDoutofstate Astro: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dawnboertman/5840923123/in/photostream
04:21 astro73|derrial interesting effect
04:21 Nazzy if I hang around you and Moose much more I'll be compelled to get the dratted thing working again :p
04:21 REDoutofstate ^_^
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04:21 Cprossu who is anon60 btw?
04:22 CSMonster the name implies anonymity.
04:22 BotSteve CSMonster: I have the following messages for you:
04:22 BotSteve At 16 Jun 03:39Z, exor674 asked me to tell CSMonster THE DRE IS IN HER OWN BED YAY
04:22 BatSteve probably me?
04:22 BatSteve not sure
04:22 BatSteve I can't see my own name
04:22 CSMonster hey batsteve
04:22 BatSteve hey CSMonster
04:22 Cprossu good good
04:23 BatSteve what's up?
04:23 Nazzy anon 60 is BatSteve
04:23 Cprossu was saying sorry for editing your gun post lol
04:23 CSMonster botsteve: tell exor674 YAY!
04:23 BotSteve CSMonster: I'll pass that on when exor674 is around.
04:23 BotSteve RuntimeError: dictionary changed size during iteration (file "/home/steve/src/hg/tgg/hg-botsteve/modules/tell.py", line 40, in dumpReminders)
04:23 CSMonster uh oh.  did i break it?
04:23 Cprossu I got a pizza in the oven and it smells good.
04:23 BatSteve BotSteve: Break Time!
04:23 BotSteve left #thegeekgroup
04:23 Cprossu I'll be right back
04:23 BatSteve CSMonster: nope
04:23 BatSteve he just had a bunch of uptime and he was getting glitchy
04:24 BatSteve this is why I should never write anything with threads ever
04:24 CSMonster LOL
04:24 tonsofpcs Cprossu: add stuff?
04:25 astro73|derrial BatSteve: you're actually using threading?
04:25 Cprossu tonsofpcs: we're just adding a few more lines from people who didn't get the chance earlier, tonsofpcs
04:25 astro73|derrial seems excessive
04:25 Nazzy BatSteve, lock that shit up! :p
04:25 BatSteve astro73|derrial: yes
04:26 BatSteve Nazzy: I'm only smart enough to get INTO trouble, not out of it
04:26 Nazzy lol
04:26 BatSteve astro73|derrial: the threads are so that the bot can poll the youtube API and the forums for new posts / videos without human intervention
04:26 astro73|derrial oh, right. I forget. TGG doesn't do anything small.
04:26 tonsofpcs Cprossu: lines to what?
04:27 BatSteve otherwise it would have to wait for an IRC event before it would check
04:27 Nazzy I may look over the code when I don't have a few thousand lines of scope violation to stab
04:27 astro73|derrial BatSteve: what event loop are you using? or just waiting on the socket?
04:27 BatSteve Nazzy: that'd be great - more people submitting code means I learn more
04:27 Nazzy you need a syncronised dict, I think python has one built in
04:28 astro73|derrial Nazzy: of course it does. It's PYTHON.
04:28 Nazzy I'm not entirely certain you want to learn from my code... it makes people weep
04:29 BatSteve https://github.com/Steve-V/tgg-BotSteve/issues/44
04:29 egrsteve learn how to weep?
04:29 BatSteve look at the title of that issue
04:29 BatSteve I wrote that code.
04:30 astro73|derrial BatSteve: why? There's at least 3 modules to parse RSS
04:30 Cprossu oooooooh I got an idea!
04:30 BatSteve I know, I'm using the feedreader one
04:30 BatSteve it's not the parsing that's the problem, it's the detection of new posts
04:30 tonsofpcs hmm, interesting switch on sellout.woot.com but seems like I wouldn't ever want to buy it...
04:30 Cprossu check the last page and the first page
04:30 Cprossu xD
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04:31 tonsofpcs Cprossu: ??????
04:31 egrsteve_ does the disclaimer have an sql injection yet?
04:31 Nazzy I'm responsible for a gem of a dict that starts off with this:
04:31 Nazzy "<":  lambda x,y: (x < y),
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04:31 Cprossu no but I just added an infinite loop, egrsteve
04:31 Cprossu just now
04:31 egrsteve_ where
04:31 BatSteve egrsteve: it's about to!
04:31 Cprossu first and last pages
04:32 egrsteve_ i see
04:32 egrsteve_ Robert'); DROP TABLE Students;-- ?"
04:33 egrsteve_ add that to the contributors
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04:33 Cprossu egrsteve_
04:33 Cprossu it's in edit mode
04:33 Cprossu https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sis6_2eZd9DxiwcHcomtrDmUo6FdgIKPOfgYALJo5h4/edit?hl=en_US&amp;authkey=CIuH5-UF
04:34 Cprossu hahahah
04:34 egrsteve_ thanks anon60
04:35 BatSteve welcome
04:35 Kafka http://www.imao.us/index.php/2011/06/in-reality-a-lightsaber-battle-would-never-last-more-than-a-second/
04:35 astro73|derrial BatSteve: it would be really nice asynchat had the option of escaping the socket occasionally to handle other event
04:35 Nazzy oooh, here's a fragment I can provide *pastebins*
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04:36 egrsteve_ maybe change robert to Chris
04:36 egrsteve_ in the sql injection
04:36 Cprossu done
04:36 BatSteve Kafka: in Jedi Knight 2 you could actually retract the blade of your lightsaber during duels
04:36 Nazzy http://pastebin.com/9d9UUTYe
04:36 BatSteve it didn't help, it was just cool.
04:37 Nazzy that's another piece of code that hasn't been touched since I hacked it up to solve a pickle contamination
04:38 Cprossu Hrmmm
04:38 Cprossu since youtube allows you to see when you pause on a video
04:38 Cprossu or replay
04:38 Cprossu egrsteve_: got an idea?
04:39 astro73|derrial Nazzy: it's amazing the number of things I identify as subpar without even having to dig in
04:40 REDoutofstate I enjoy this part of the disclaimer very much: Be advised: The amount of hugging that goes on in the IRC channel can potentially triple when RED logs in.
04:40 Nazzy astro73|derrial, what, in that code?
04:40 astro73|derrial Nazzy: yes
04:40 BatSteve REDoutofstate: fact
04:40 Nazzy like I said, I wrote it in one go and never touched it again
04:41 Nazzy I know there are several issues with it :p
04:41 * Cprossu hugs REDoutofstate
04:41 astro73|derrial ok
04:41 REDoutofstate <3
04:41 * BatSteve rolls eyes
04:41 astro73|derrial at least python forces you to indent
04:41 * BatSteve hugs REDoutofstate
04:41 Nazzy all my code is properly indented, regardless of language
04:42 astro73|derrial out of curiosity, is there anybody i don't know nicks for who hang out at the lab?
04:42 REDoutofstate i dunno.
04:43 tonsofpcs Cprossu: i still have no clue what 'lines' you're talking about
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04:44 CSMonster http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=32237980&amp;l=21ac706924&amp;id=1076412333
04:44 CSMonster hi red
04:44 REDoutofstate Hai CSMonster love.
04:44 REDoutofstate How are you, my dear?
04:45 CSMonster :)
04:45 CSMonster okay, i think
04:45 * CSMonster checks for damage
04:45 Cprossu Disclaimer: Thanks to Youtube HotSpots we can tell you stopped here and rewound it a bit, we also know what you ate for breakfast.
04:45 * Nazzy is compelled to go and attack an expensive server with a pair of vise grips
04:45 REDoutofstate ^_^
04:45 Nazzy I shall probably return in a bit
04:45 REDoutofstate No damage?
04:46 Cprossu no pregnancy, user 60
04:46 Cprossu boden cannot cause pregnancy.
04:46 BatSteve truefacts
04:47 BatSteve ....HAH.
04:47 * BatSteve just had a thought
04:47 Nazzy BatSteve, you look like a RealFact kind of guy... </random obscure reference>
04:47 REDoutofstate hehehe
04:48 * Nazzy glomps RED
04:48 * BatSteve doesn't get the realfact reference
04:48 BatSteve sorry
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04:48 Nazzy B5... last episode of season 4 I think
04:48 BatSteve Great success.  I am now satisfied with my author credit.
04:49 Cprossu It's funny
04:49 Cprossu I like it
04:49 astro73|derrial Nazzy: I don't remember that
04:49 BatSteve Cprossu: have you read the DC 80 escape artist thread?
04:49 Cprossu yes!
04:49 BatSteve ^_^
04:49 Cprossu I saw you type it in because google is magic.
04:49 CSMonster REDoutofstate: nope, no damage.
04:49 BatSteve right, but I mean the 4chan thread it comes from
04:50 REDoutofstate CSMonster: *phew* Oh thank God, I was worried....
04:51 Cprossu ok any more video game or movie references we need?
04:51 Nazzy astro73|derrial, it's either the last or second to last episode in season 4, the second from last clip in the future of the alliance sequence where they bring the command staff as holograms
04:51 Cprossu start listing off important geek movies
04:51 Cprossu and games
04:52 astro73|derrial oh, ok
04:52 astro73|derrial Cprossu: define "important"
04:52 astro73|derrial also, I believe Hackers is a movie and a game
04:53 Cprossu like 2001, BTTF, Ghostbusters
04:53 BatSteve Cprossu: already added a Blade Runner reference
04:53 Cprossu good
04:53 Cprossu I just added a 2001 reference
04:53 Cprossu Disclaimer: I�m sorry, Dave, I�m afraid that I can�t do that.
04:54 Cprossu xD
04:54 Nazzy you need a reasonably obvious B5 reference, Rocky Horror reference, and some hitchhikers references
04:54 Cprossu I know just hte hitchhikers reference
04:55 * BatSteve starts combining references at random
04:55 Cprossu Advisory: Don�t Panic
04:55 Nazzy "This disclaimer has been touched by Vorlons"
04:55 BatSteve "When Chris Boden hits 88 miles per hour, don't panic"
04:55 Cprossu no wrong
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04:56 Cprossu When Chris Boden hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious shit
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04:56 astro73|derrial Trade 4 sheep for 1 boden?
04:56 BatSteve Yes, that's the correct line
04:56 BatSteve see above, where I mention "combining references at random"
04:56 Nazzy Cprossu, "Chris Boden has been touched by Vorlons, he won't say where."
04:56 Cprossu no =/
04:57 Hackfox how do I de register a name?
04:57 Nazzy was worth a try :p
04:57 Cprossu and I think I am going to dump it in verbatim
04:57 Cprossu Warning: When this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious shit
04:59 Nazzy meh, I really need to go abuse them rails
04:59 Nazzy Cprossu, I want to see a good B5 reference and a good RHPS reference... do me proud!
04:59 Nazzy *gone*
05:00 astro73|derrial Can we toss in a stargate reference for good messure?
05:00 tonsofpcs how about a Q-bert reference?
05:01 egrsteve_ This must be Thursday. I never could get the hang of Thursdays
05:01 tonsofpcs @!#?@!?
05:02 Cprossu I can't help you on b5
05:02 BatSteve oh!
05:02 BatSteve hahaha
05:02 BatSteve duh
05:02 BatSteve .quote
05:02 BotSteve /* Halley */
05:02 BatSteve .quote
05:02 BotSteve Nothing happens.
05:02 egrsteve_ hhg2tg
05:02 BatSteve .quote
05:02 BotSteve The road to hell is paved with NAND gates.
05:02 Cprossu ^ YES
05:02 Cprossu Danger: The road to hell is paved with NAND gates.
05:03 Cprossu Additionally, while Mr. Fusion powers the time circuits and the flux capacitor, Chris Boden runs well on ordinary tacos.
05:03 Cprossu ^ I changed that one
05:03 egrsteve_ Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.
05:03 tonsofpcs Meeting time isn't an illusion....
05:04 astro73|derrial Warning: Do not meddle in the affairs of technomages.
05:05 egrsteve_ Curiously enough, the only thing that went through the mind of the bowl of petunias as it fell was Oh no, not again.
05:05 astro73|derrial (there's your b5 reference)
05:05 BatSteve "Traveling through hyperspace is unpleasantly like being drunk"
05:05 BatSteve "What's so unpleasant about being drunk?"
05:05 BatSteve "Ask a glass of water"
05:05 egrsteve_ There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.  There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
05:06 Cprossu hmmm
05:06 tonsofpcs are we just going through every douglas adams quote?
05:06 Cprossu I'm getting too tired for this
05:06 tonsofpcs Anyway, I have meetings in the morning.  So long, and thanks for all the fish :)
05:06 Cprossu we can't start this or it'll be 50 pages long
05:06 BatSteve yeah
05:06 BatSteve lock that sucker down
05:06 BatSteve oh wait
05:06 BatSteve hmm
05:06 Cprossu waiting
05:06 * tonsofpcs grabs his towel and goes to sleep
05:07 * BatSteve tries to remember the "it will not stop until you are dead" line from the terminator movies
05:07 egrsteve_ From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination.
05:07 * BatSteve can't remember off the top of his head
05:07 BatSteve ok, lock 'er up
05:07 BatSteve unless CSMonster has something to add
05:08 Cprossu locking up in 10 seconds from
05:08 Cprossu now
05:08 Hackfox Warning Toxicty of videos depends on the current intake of tacos by cory.
05:08 Cprossu close
05:08 Cprossu hmmm
05:08 Hackfox just throwing it out
05:09 * REDoutofstate is about to pass out on the couch and therefore says: Goodnight Internet. <3
05:09 speedrunnerG55 Hi
05:09 speedrunnerG55 Oh bye red!
05:09 egrsteve_ it is very easy to be blinded to the essential uselessness of them by the sense of achievement you get from getting them to work at all.
05:09 Hackfox Warning: Depending on current Taco to cory Ratio toxic gases may be present in video
05:09 Cprossu later REDoutofstate!
05:09 egrsteve_ night red
05:09 Hackfox night red
05:10 REDoutofstate left #thegeekgroup
05:10 Cprossu Warning: Particulate contamination may be present due to consumption of tacos by Cory.
05:10 speedrunnerG55 I caught that just in time :)
05:11 Cprossu no it's not funny yet
05:11 Cprossu Warning: Particulate contamination may be present due to consumption of tacos by member(s) of the production team.
05:11 BatSteve BALLS.
05:11 speedrunnerG55 Balls?
05:11 speedrunnerG55 Innert?
05:11 BatSteve Cprossu:  document needs "likely to be eaten by a grue" somewhere
05:11 Cprossu Warning: Extreme contamination may be present due to consumption of tacos by member(s) of the production team.
05:11 astro73|derrial yes, he introduced the girl of his dreams to his arch-nemesis
05:13 Cprossu Caution: Not responsible if you walk into the room with the Grue!
05:13 Cprossu no
05:13 Cprossu hmmm
05:13 tonsofpcs xyzzy.
05:13 tonsofpcs You're in a small winding maze of twisting passages.
05:13 tonsofpcs You're in a winding maze of small twisting passages.
05:13 speedrunnerG55 Oh hi CSMonster
05:13 tonsofpcs (or whatever the words are)
05:14 Nazzy <astro73|derrial> Warning: Do not meddle in the affairs of technomages. <--- *thumbs up*
05:14 speedrunnerG55 Oh hi tonsofpcs
05:14 tonsofpcs oh hi
05:14 tonsofpcs (yes, Nothing happens. is from the same)
05:14 * speedrunnerG55 waves
05:14 Cprossu Caution: Not responsible if you are consumed/maimed/ Grue.
05:14 Hackfox it's hard to weed in a highbrow fart joke
05:14 Nazzy <egrsteve_> it is very easy to be blinded to the essential uselessness of them by the sense of achievement you get from getting them to work at all. <--- digital watches
05:14 Cprossu give me some other words
05:14 tonsofpcs Cprossu: Just as long as the fnords don't get you.
05:14 Cprossu Caution: Not responsible if you are consumed/maimed/gutted/deboned by Grue.
05:15 tonsofpcs Caution: Not responsible if you are consumed/maimed/gutted/deboned by a Grue Fnord.
05:15 tonsofpcs :D
05:15 Cprossu does this get anyone elses approval?
05:15 Nazzy <tonsofpcs> You're in a winding maze of small twisting passages. <--- "You are in a winding maze of rooms that all look alike"
05:16 tonsofpcs Nazzy: no, not that one, I don't think... I think that was a remake
05:16 * tonsofpcs loads it up
05:16 astro73|derrial http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_Cave_Adventure#Maze_of_twisty_little_passages
05:16 Nazzy Cprossu, "Don't feed after midnight"
05:16 Cprossu hahaha
05:16 Cprossu gremlins ftw
05:17 Hackfox Warning: Opinions, beliefs, and personal prejudices of the Viewer can be rendered incorrect at anytime.
05:17 tonsofpcs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_Cave_Adventure#Maze_of_twisty_little_passages
05:17 Cprossu Advisory: Bodens should not be fed after midnight
05:17 Hackfox Warning: Ham radios not actually made from ham. (Sorry Cory)
05:18 BatSteve HAH  THAT ONE
05:18 BatSteve yesssss
05:18 Cprossu Warning: Ham radios may not actually be made of or from ham.
05:18 BatSteve do that one
05:18 tonsofpcs Cprossu: and only once!
05:18 BatSteve noo, the first one was way better
05:18 BatSteve particularly the (sorry cory) at the ned
05:18 BatSteve end
05:18 Cprossu ok
05:18 Hackfox Corry looks like he enjoys ham :D
05:19 Hackfox *Cory
05:19 tonsofpcs IDDQD will not get you through this level.
05:19 Cprossu Note: Ham radios not actually made from ham. (Sorry Cory)
05:19 Cprossu can someone get a chamber of horrors dnd reference they like?
05:19 tonsofpcs Cprossu: is that possible? :)
05:19 speedrunnerG55 CSMonster: ?
05:20 Cprossu if anything deserves to be in a disclaimer it's the chamber of horrors right?
05:20 Nazzy "Dammit Kidwell, I'm a physicist not an electronics expert!"
05:20 speedrunnerG55 I like my star trech quote ^_^
05:20 Nazzy (replace disciplines to flavor)
05:20 BatSteve Cprossu:  Caution: Not responsible for consequences resulting from reentering the statue's mouth in Acibeck's Tomb
05:20 astro73|derrial i can't think of a good RPG reference
05:21 Cprossu done.
05:21 Nazzy astro73|derrial, I rolled a critical fail on my Detect Sarcasm check
05:21 astro73|derrial Management not responsible for critical failures
05:21 BatSteve *note for those who are unfamiliar - reentering the statue's mouth results in instant character annihilation without possibility of saving throw
05:21 Cprossu Danger: Hitting your head on boxes will not produce magical mushrooms
05:22 tonsofpcs Caution: Critical misses can be critical.
05:22 tonsofpcs Caution: Misses can be critical. (good to post near stairs)
05:22 Cprossu nah
05:22 Nazzy Cprossu, "and jumping down open pipes should only be attempted with appropriate safety ropes"?
05:22 Cprossu no
05:22 Cprossu ooooh I know one
05:23 Cprossu pumper truck reference!
05:23 Cprossu we need one
05:23 Cprossu since he was so fucking happy
05:23 Nazzy I'm still trying to think of a concise and identifiable RHPS reference
05:23 Hackfox Note: Calling playing Dice D6's outside of facility may and often will result in ridicule.
05:24 BatSteve RHPS?
05:24 Cprossu Hackfox, nah
05:24 Nazzy Rocky Horror Picture Show
05:24 BatSteve ah
05:24 Cprossu Advisory: A TOAST!
05:24 Nazzy every geek quote compilation needs at least one good Rocky reference
05:24 Cprossu ^ how about that one?
05:24 Hackfox Note: Participation in time warp is NOT Vollentary
05:25 Hackfox I can not spell
05:25 BatSteve Unrelated to the above, but I was suddenly reminded of a conversation I over heard from a different table at Marmalade Dog
05:25 Cprossu Advisory: There's three ways that love can go
05:25 astro73|derrial Warning: Do not open stargate near gravitational singularities
05:25 Nazzy I quite like hackfox's ... OOOH "Warning: It's the pelvic thrust that really drives you insane."
05:26 Hackfox Warning: This may be the part where he kills you.
05:26 BatSteve "Ok, first, "Briefcase Full of Uzis" is not a feat, it's an inventory item.  Second, even if it was a feat, you can't take it, because we're playing Whitewolf"
05:26 Cprossu ok we need a chebacca reference
05:26 Cprossu ^
05:26 Cprossu I'll be back as soon as I can
05:26 Nazzy Laugh it up fuzzball!
05:26 tonsofpcs D4s are not a suitable substitute for caltrops.
05:27 Hackfox D4's hurt...
05:27 Nazzy tonsofpcs, they are if you have a dremel and some patience
05:27 tonsofpcs It's just a jump to the left.
05:28 Hackfox Dremel: The general misengineering repait
05:28 Hackfox *Repair tool
05:28 tonsofpcs Nazzy: how about "Caltrops are not a suitable substitute for D4s"
05:28 Nazzy that's good
05:28 Nazzy hmmm, is it go or grow from that line
05:29 Nazzy I parsed it as grow
05:29 Hackfox D20's can not be used in place of bearins in emergencies.
05:29 Hackfox Bearings
05:29 tonsofpcs "Color bars do not serve alcohol"
05:29 Hackfox ha
05:29 Hackfox either funny or racist
05:30 tonsofpcs "Golf balls are not d100s.  d100s roll better."
05:30 Hackfox depending on the context
05:30 Hackfox D100's are two d10's
05:30 tonsofpcs Hackfox: no, they make physical d100s
05:30 BatSteve yep, they do.
05:30 speedrunnerG55 Hackfox: Ftw
05:31 speedrunnerG55 :3
05:31 Hackfox holyshit...
05:31 tonsofpcs and they really do roll better than golf balls.
05:31 Hackfox http://www.trollandtoad.com/Supplies-&amp;-Dice/1335-483-1204p1n10.html
05:31 Hackfox ONLY $6 D:
05:31 Hackfox kinda want
05:31 tonsofpcs they also make d24s and d30s and d5s and d7s and ....
05:32 speedrunnerG55 Or... : >
05:32 Hackfox I want an offical D2
05:32 Nazzy Cprossu, yeah, I'm fairly sure it's grow, not go
05:32 tonsofpcs "If you keep rolling between 2 and 6 in monopoly, please replace the d3s with proper d6s."
05:33 Hackfox how...
05:33 Hackfox HOW
05:33 tonsofpcs how what?
05:33 Nazzy There's three ways that love can grow
05:33 Hackfox would you make a d3?
05:33 Nazzy That's good, bad, or mediocre
05:33 Nazzy with a d3 cut in half
05:33 tonsofpcs you print 1,2,3,1,2,3 on a cube
05:33 Nazzy uh, d6 cut in half
05:33 Nazzy too tired to get the jokes right
05:34 Cprossu fail
05:34 speedrunnerG55 Hackfox: How does that work???
05:34 Cprossu tonsofpcs' lol
05:34 Nazzy fail Cprossu ?
05:34 speedrunnerG55 I could roll that (literlally) and be like it landed there
05:34 Cprossu the fact there isn't a good chewbacca reference
05:34 Nazzy oh
05:34 * speedrunnerG55 points at arbitrrary side
05:35 Nazzy "Ooooooooork ook ook"?
05:35 Hackfox you mean a d2?
05:35 Cprossu lol
05:35 astro73|derrial Nazzy: d6 cut in half still hs 6 sides
05:35 Cprossu ok we'll let that one slide
05:35 BatSteve Chewbacca's a wookie, from the planet Kashyyyk....but he lives on endor.  *that makes no sense*
05:35 Nazzy astro73|derrial, depends how you cut it
05:35 tonsofpcs *that does not make sense*
05:35 tonsofpcs Hackfox: if you're bored and want to see various things that dice can do, http://www.koplowgames.com/ has a good selection
05:35 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 3 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: reubenT on Worth noting, Geek rule in the end.....reubenT on Your Geek book shelf, list your geeky books......reubenT on new
05:35 Cprossu Error: This does not make sense.
05:36 Nazzy I can cut a d6 in half and have 4 sides on each piece
05:36 Cprossu do we have any pulp fiction references yet?
05:36 BatSteve ooooh
05:36 tonsofpcs where are these 'quotes'/'sayings' going?
05:36 speedrunnerG55 Hackfox: ?
05:37 Hackfox speedrunnerG55, ?
05:37 Nazzy but if you take the probability set for a d6 and cut it in half you get a d3
05:37 speedrunnerG55 How does a 100 sided die work?
05:37 BatSteve "Chris Boden knows what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France"
05:37 tonsofpcs speedrunnerG55: it looks like a golf ball.
05:37 Hackfox it has lil pockets
05:37 Cprossu Caution: The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will kno
05:37 tonsofpcs you find the number on top when it stops
05:37 Hackfox like a golfball
05:37 Hackfox *Dimples
05:38 speedrunnerG55 How do you know which one
05:38 Hackfox it's the top one
05:38 tonsofpcs Hackfox: you'd probably like round d6s (like, they're spheres)
05:38 tonsofpcs speedrunnerG55: it's the one that water doesn't run off of....
05:39 speedrunnerG55 Heh
05:39 Cprossu ok we got our pulp fiction reference
05:39 Cprossu hmmm
05:39 BatSteve Cprossu:  A man, a plan, a canoe, pasta, heros, rajahs, a coloratura, maps, snipe, percale, macaroni, a gag, a banana bag, a tan, a tag, a banana bag again (or a camel), a crepe, pins, Spam, a rut, a Rolo, cash, a jar, sore hats, a peon, a canal-- Panama!
05:40 tonsofpcs BatSteve: does that actually work?
05:40 Cprossu what did I mess?!
05:40 BatSteve yes
05:40 tonsofpcs lol
05:40 Cprossu errrr miss
05:41 Cprossu what the HELL did I miss?
05:41 tonsofpcs Hackfox: 2d20? http://www.koplowgames.com/page33.html
05:42 Cprossu tonsofpcs: you didn't put your name in the credits did you?
05:42 tonsofpcs Cprossu: credits of what?
05:43 Cprossu the file with the crap in it
05:43 tonsofpcs what file?
05:43 Cprossu https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sis6_2eZd9DxiwcHcomtrDmUo6FdgIKPOfgYALJo5h4/edit?hl=en_US&amp;authkey=CIuH5-UF
05:43 * Nazzy thinks of SG-1 references
05:43 Cprossu the captains blog disclaimer one
05:43 Cprossu SG-1 contradicted itself too often for me to enjoy it =(
05:43 Nazzy "Sir, I've never blown up a solar system before"
05:44 tonsofpcs Cprossu: did anything i write get added?
05:44 Cprossu yes
05:44 Cprossu so I put your name in
05:44 Nazzy oh I stopped paying any attention to continuity early on
05:44 Cprossu any title you want, tonsofpcs?
05:44 tonsofpcs uh... "Tons of PCs" is the title ;)
05:45 tonsofpcs (and completely outdated)
05:45 Cprossu done.
05:45 tonsofpcs missing a space before (
05:45 tonsofpcs how about (Doesn't really have that many PCs anymore)
05:46 tonsofpcs heh
05:46 Cprossu how about that?
05:46 tonsofpcs I can name every PC in my apartment without looking (well, I'm not sure the Qty of IIgs or //c; I think it's 1 and 2, respectively).
05:46 tonsofpcs sure, although probably untrue :)
05:47 Cprossu I forget some of them
05:47 Cprossu I have way too many
05:47 * tonsofpcs hasn't weighed them all
05:47 astro73|derrial Warning: Installing BSD may lead to shark attack
05:47 Cprossu rofl but no one will know what it means in a week
05:47 tonsofpcs it's fine
05:48 astro73|derrial it's not a recent reference
05:48 Cprossu that would be like "Information: Tell your senators to keep using Solaris"
05:48 speedrunnerG55 Hey Cprossu guess what.
05:48 Nazzy yay, I just acquired a pile of motherboards
05:48 Cprossu what, speedrunnerG55? same problem still?
05:48 Cprossu Nazzy: what vintage?
05:49 Cprossu ooooh how about a MIME joke?
05:49 speedrunnerG55 An old friend of my mom added me on facebook. And. Aparently she used to be a programmer. And posted stuff about the 8085 on my wall
05:49 Cprossu nice.
05:49 Nazzy Cprossu, um, probably athlon or better, supermicro 1U server boards
05:50 Cprossu o
05:50 Nazzy I'm going to attack them with a heat gun to recycle the ICs on them
05:50 tonsofpcs C=64; Amiga 2000,2500,3000+toaster,4000+toaster+flyer+tower; Apple IIgs (or 2); Apple //c (or 2); Compaq Portable III; Powerbook 170 (or is it 160? pretty sure it's 170); Gateway 2000 Solo (forget model #); Sony notebook; Gateway Solo 9300Pro (complete w/ busted hdd controller and screen issues); 2x EeePC900a; Dell Inspiron 6400/E1505; Dell 530;
05:51 tonsofpcs oh, and the P2 that I pulled apart because it was cheaper to buy a new quad-core-duo machine than the electricity to run it for a month
05:52 Cprossu it would take me an hour to post every pc and computer I owned
05:52 tonsofpcs this is just what's in my apartment ^^
05:52 Cprossu I know
05:52 Cprossu I am telling you
05:53 tonsofpcs like, I can grab each of these and turn them on right now (except the A4000)
05:53 tonsofpcs (and i'm not sure the PSU status of the P2)
05:53 Cprossu it would take me an hour just to list everything I had unless I cut it at 386
05:53 * NeWtoz just finally preordered book 5 of A Song of Ice and Fire
05:53 tonsofpcs I also have a 486 on the shelf (just the chip with spikey heatsink dohickey) and a piece of 1GB notebook RAM leaning against it...
05:54 Cprossu I have about 40 486 chips
05:54 Cprossu and for the most part they are different too
05:54 tonsofpcs SX, DX, etc?
05:54 Cprossu and branding
05:54 Ycarene Reminds me of a friend of mine, he nailed a bunch of pc components to a wall, hooked them up into a working machine and called it "Walt".
05:54 Cprossu I had a 386 on my wall
05:55 tonsofpcs I has cameras too: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonsofpcs/5502948258/in/photostream
05:55 Cprossu but the hdd fell down and hit my foot one day
05:55 tonsofpcs ouch
05:55 Cprossu that didn't feel good either
05:55 Cprossu I never mounted a computer on a wall again
05:55 Cprossu and another time
05:55 Cprossu I had pieces on my wall
05:55 Cprossu because it looked cool
05:55 Cprossu I lost my footing
05:55 Cprossu my hand went for the wall
05:55 Ycarene He was kind of brave with it too, the hard drive was a 68 meg double height 5 1/4" rll drive.
05:55 Cprossu fuck that hurt
05:55 tonsofpcs ouch
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05:56 Cprossu and I never put anything at arm level again
05:56 Cprossu my drive was a double height 3.5"
05:56 Cprossu seagate 100mb I think
05:56 Nazzy mounted to the wall ... hmmm, interesting idea *ponders*
05:56 tonsofpcs Ycarene: double-height?  the tallest 5.25" HDD I own is 1.5 height (a normal CD drive being half-height)
05:56 Cprossu and I had it in a 3.5" case part
05:56 Cprossu that was nailed to the wall
05:56 Ycarene ok, I guess full height then
05:57 Ycarene It weight like 15 pounds.
05:57 Cprossu I sent a full height to tgg
05:57 Cprossu 20mb
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05:57 speedrunnerG55 And Cprossu i wont really know how it goes till tomorrow. When my mom tries it
05:58 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIEA6pWmPZ0&amp;feature=player_profilepage#t=225s
05:58 Nazzy Cprossu, I know what you need to add... "If it moves, salute it; If doesn't salute it.  If it moves and it shouldn't, duct tape; if it doesn't and it should, WD40"
05:58 Cprossu ^ this is the drive I sent
05:58 Nazzy fail, try again
05:58 Cprossu my cell phone sucks
05:58 Nazzy "If it moves, salute it; If doesn't paint it.  If it moves and it shouldn't, duct tape; if it doesn't and it should, WD40"
05:59 tonsofpcs "Camera shading should not involve umbrellas"
05:59 Cprossu white balance.... no there's a racist joke in there
05:59 speedrunnerG55 ...lol
05:59 tonsofpcs Just because you're in master control doesn't make you the master or in control.
06:00 speedrunnerG55 Hi CSMonster
06:00 * Nazzy notes that it is time to go home
06:00 Nazzy good night
06:00 Cprossu night
06:00 CSMonster hi speed.
06:00 tonsofpcs Every action has an equal and opposite reaction known as a "failure mode"
06:00 * Cprossu notes that we are out of funny ideas
06:01 tonsofpcs is murphy cited?
06:01 tonsofpcs Anything that can go wrong will go wrong at the most inopportune moment.  Hopefully you caught it on videotape.
06:01 Cprossu no
06:01 Cprossu hrmm
06:01 tonsofpcs s/wrong at/wrong, at/
06:02 tonsofpcs IRC is not a body of water.
06:02 BatSteve heh, that reminds me of one of Murphy's Corrolaries:  "Any crucial task which requires undivided attention will be accompanied by a compelling distraction"
06:02 Cprossu Anything that can go wrong already did and it�s on the blooper reel.
06:03 tonsofpcs If it's broken and you call someone over to fix it, it's probably working now.
06:03 Cprossu we are at 5 full pages now
06:03 tonsofpcs Anything that can go right will go right, when pigs fly.
06:04 BatSteve done.
06:04 BatSteve 5 pages, like 640k, should be enough for anybody.
06:04 dr_jkl someone
06:04 tonsofpcs alternatively, "Anything that can go right will go right, barring left-hand turns"
06:04 dr_jkl needs to put up another video
06:04 dr_jkl I NEED MY FIX
06:04 BatSteve .yt nyan cat
06:04 BotSteve BatSteve: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH2-TGUlwu4
06:04 BatSteve there you go
06:05 dr_jkl ooh, nyan cat
06:05 Cprossu BotSteve: tell CaptainBoden Locked, 5 full pages, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sis6_2eZd9DxiwcHcomtrDmUo6FdgIKPOfgYALJo5h4/edit?hl=en_US&amp;authkey=CIuH5-UF good luck.
06:05 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when CaptainBoden is around.
06:05 tonsofpcs dr_jkl: there's a video here:  http://www.videoproductionsupport.com/index.php?page=content-free (you need to download the AVI)
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06:06 * speedrunnerG55 highfives cs
06:06 tonsofpcs I really should replace that S360 plugin...
06:06 * speedrunnerG55 high fives CSMonster
06:06 CSMonster why are you trying to touch me don't do that.
06:07 speedrunnerG55 Ok
06:07 * speedrunnerG55 backs of from CSMonster
06:08 tonsofpcs anyeway, meetings in 4 hours, g'nite all
06:10 Cprossu night and thanks, tonsofpcs
06:10 Cprossu thanks to your involvement we might get the saturn going tomorrow evening
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06:11 NeWtoz typo: 2nd page, 6th line near "(to you"
06:11 speedrunnerG55 The future is nyan
06:12 Cprossu looking
06:12 NeWtoz well, a few things sound "funny" in that general area
06:12 tonsofpcs awesome
06:12 tonsofpcs Cprossu: do you have pictures of a saturn v rocket to run through it? :)
06:13 BatSteve all right. enough of this foolishness
06:13 BatSteve is now known as BatSteve-Away
06:13 tonsofpcs g'night
06:13 Cprossu yeah I know NeWtoz
06:13 Cprossu lol
06:13 NeWtoz a space after hurts
06:14 NeWtoz I'm not a grammar person, but I know one will read it later and go crazy
06:14 speedrunnerG55 Night BatSteve-Away
06:14 NeWtoz so I'm just trying to be preventative
06:14 Cprossu easy to fix now
06:14 NeWtoz heh, just noticed the Back to the Future reference :)
06:14 NeWtoz love those movies
06:17 NeWtoz 2nd page 1/2 way down, Burger King to be capitalized
06:17 astro73|derrial ok, i'm done. Good night
06:17 Sgt_Lemming well it is a name, so it makes sense you write it with capitals
06:18 speedrunnerG55 "This may or may not be a stepper motor, yo."LOL
06:18 Cprossu BK has menus?!
06:18 Cprossu since when?!
06:18 Cprossu In the event of blindness, you should consult a doctor that is trained, not a doctor out of the back of a van who got a PhD printed on the back of a Burger King menu. We are also not responsible for where you are touched by the doctor that you are visiting.
06:18 Cprossu who did this quote?
06:19 NeWtoz they might even have picture menus if you request one
06:20 Cprossu Don�t put a fork in an electrical socket, it will leave you with the stereotypical �Exploded daffy duck look�, with the only difference being that it�s not funny to you (it will by hilarious to the person next to you) and it seriously hurts (who do you think you are, Dr.house?). Don�t breathe on the electrical socket either. In fact, don�t even look at one. In any instance where Chris Boden raises his voice, please mute the video. Otherwi
06:20 Cprossu I bet the same one did that quote
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06:22 Cprossu I think they need some help
06:22 speedrunnerG55 I just added dr house in there
06:22 speedrunnerG55 Sry
06:23 Cprossu I'm gonna see if we can make these sound awesome
06:23 Cprossu give me a few
06:27 Sgt_Lemming http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3633/3659865532_cd6a0fd97c_o.jpg <--- *GASM*
06:28 speedrunnerG55 Nice bike
06:29 Cprossu In the event of blindness you should seek a trained and licensed optometrist. It may not be in your best interest to seek one who got their MD from a cracker jack box, ebay, or the picture frame company. We are not responsible for any harassment such a doctor could cause you.
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06:30 NeWtoz right before the "Authors of Disclaimer:" cal should be call
06:30 NeWtoz you were quick with that one ;)
06:31 Cprossu now to deal with the last lameish sounding one
06:34 NeWtoz after that nice read, I get to go back to work!
06:35 NeWtoz yey?!
06:35 Cprossu woo
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06:43 speed-pc hi
06:44 Cprossu You should not put metal forks, sporks, or other electrically conductive objects into a live electrical socket. It could leave you with the stereotypical �Exploded daffy duck look� or even death. Although it could be downright hilarious to the person next to you, you won�t likely find it nearly as funny as we do. If you still have the urge after this warning, die in a fire.
06:44 speed-pc lol
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06:46 Cprossu fin.
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06:50 speed-pc i have to ge to bed
06:51 speed-pc bye everyone!
07:00 Cprossu had to modify one
07:00 Cprossu If you must place your finger over the aperture while shooting, you agree and accept all responsibility for only being able to count to your present finger amount minus 1 afterwards, or minus 2 if you are talented.
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07:29 Cprossu .tfw 85020
07:29 BotSteve 91�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'times you wish you didn't have leather seats'
07:30 Cprossu .weather 85020
07:30 BotSteve Clear ☼, 91.4℉ (33℃), 29.66in (1001mb), Light breeze 4kt (↑) - KPHX 06:51Z
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07:31 Ycarene .tfw 51103
07:31 BotSteve 71�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Sioux City, IA!  'I can't  believe it's not porn!'
07:32 Ycarene Heh, at 2:30 in the morning, that's not "nice" it's a preleude to burnination.
07:34 * Hackfox wants to play magic the gathering now
07:47 Cprossu Ycarene: you have no right to complain.
07:47 Cprossu .tfw 85020
07:47 BotSteve 91�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'I recommend staying away from fat people.'
07:47 Ycarene true
07:48 Cprossu it's 00:48 btw
07:52 Sgt_Lemming http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3201/2940627057_8ea9fd2071_o.jpg <--- awesome pic
08:01 Sgt_Lemming http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3022/2710730668_ef221c9b95_z.jpg?zz=1 <--- *GASM*
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08:05 Cprossu Sgt_Lemming: http://www.injectordynamics.com/PSB.jpg
08:06 Sgt_Lemming meh
08:07 Sgt_Lemming drag bikes are pointless
08:07 Cprossu only when they end up like this, Sgt_Lemming: http://www.injectordynamics.com/holyshit.jpg
08:14 Sgt_Lemming still pointless :-P
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08:34 NeWtoz 2 hours of work left
08:34 NeWtoz then I get to take a nap, and do 8 more hours
08:34 NeWtoz gotta love fridays
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08:34 NeWtoz at least I get a longer weekend
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09:02 Cprossu_Laptop wow
09:02 Cprossu_Laptop freenode's getting pwnd
09:03 Sgt_Lemming ...?
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11:36 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: kiwifrog on Project Log: Large HVL Voltage Display
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12:06 tonsofpcs morning
12:15 MadManMarkAu 'evening
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12:17 tonsofpcs evenin'
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12:32 Druidic_Rifleman Morning geeks
12:36 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Sparky Projects on Project Log: Large HVL Voltage Display
12:42 Cj1corbystarlet evening all
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12:47 speedrunnerG55 Hi
12:48 ynos G'mornin all
12:49 speedrunnerG55 Good morning
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13:09 speedrunnerG55 Hi westmi
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13:14 westmi sup
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13:19 eightbitbrad Good $time_of_day_greeting, everyone.
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13:28 CaptainBoden Want - Video card, NVidia based, PCIe X-16 2.0, dual DVI output, that will last me a while. Thoughts?
13:28 BotSteve CaptainBoden: I have the following messages for you:
13:28 BotSteve At 06:05Z, Cprossu asked me to tell CaptainBoden Locked, 5 full pages, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sis6_2eZd9DxiwcHcomtrDmUo6FdgIKPOfgYALJo5h4/edit?hl=en_US&amp;authkey=CIuH5-UF good luck.
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13:34 Thermoelectric CaptainBoden: Possibly of the 400 or 500GTX series.
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13:42 CaptainBoden is PCIe backwards compatible? Can I run a 2.1 card in a 2.0 slot and take a small performance hit?
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13:46 Ponko92 hello all
13:48 BatSteve-Away is now known as BatSteve
13:48 BatSteve hey ponko
13:48 Thermoelectric CaptainBoden: I do believe PCIe is backwards compatible, from what I have read. Running a 2.1 card in a 2.0 slot shouldn't have much effect, if any.
13:49 BatSteve it's the world's most perfect day to fly today.  Of course this is when all my students get sick.
13:49 BatSteve That's kind of the way version numbers are "supposed" to go, I'm pretty sure - a 2.1 release shouldn't break when used with a 2.0 release.
13:50 BatSteve Except in Minecraft
13:50 CaptainBoden lol
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13:51 BatSteve .log
13:51 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
13:51 * Thermoelectric goes to sleep. Enjoy the rest of your day/night silly people in weird timezones. :P
13:52 * Ponko92 is surrounded by high rank IRC officials
13:52 BatSteve g'night Thermoelectric
13:52 Ponko92 night Thermo :)
13:52 BatSteve enjoy your wintertime in june
13:52 BatSteve crazy upside-downers
13:52 Ponko92 lol
13:53 Thermoelectric It was like 10C thismorning, I need a heater. Brrr.
13:53 Ponko92 get in an emergency dial 666
13:53 Ponko92 sorry 999 for us but seeing though he's upside down...
13:54 BatSteve 999 is your emergency number?
13:55 Ponko92 yes
13:57 westmi wow where u at, Ponko92 ?
13:57 westmi europe?
13:57 Cj1corbystarlet 6 deg c for me brrrr
13:57 Ponko92 UK
13:57 westmi 70F here in michigan
13:58 Ponko92 idk what the weather is doing here because my sidebar hasn't come up yet :\
13:58 BatSteve That's interesting.  In the USA, part of the reason that 911 was chosen was because it's harder to dial accidentally, since you have to move your whole finger
13:58 BatSteve .weather manchester
13:58 BotSteve Clear ☼, 16℃, 1001mb, Moderate breeze 13kt (↑) - EGCC 13:50Z
13:58 * BatSteve forgets where Ponko92 lives
13:58 Ponko92 .weather Luton
13:58 BotSteve Cloudy, 13℃, 1004mb, Gentle breeze 8kt (↑) - EGGW 13:50Z
13:59 ynos .weather 49345
13:59 BotSteve LFRA: no such ICAO code, or no NOAA data
13:59 Ponko92 colder yet slight less brezzey
13:59 ynos .weather grr
13:59 BotSteve Cloudy, 62.6℉ (17℃), 29.90in (1009mb), Light breeze 5kt (↑) - KGRR 12:53Z
13:59 Ponko92 .weather 54304
13:59 BotSteve Clear ☼, 66.2℉ (19℃), 29.90in (1009mb), Haze, Light breeze 5kt (↑) - KGRB, 12:53Z
13:59 ynos zipcode fail
13:59 ynos oh?
13:59 westmi .w 49319
13:59 BotSteve "The 13th Congressional District of Pennsylvania is located in Southeastern Pennsylvania, covering eastern Montgomery County and Northeast Philadelphia." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania's_13th_congressional_district
14:00 ynos nice
14:00 Ponko92 .tfwc 54304
14:00 BotSteve 18�C?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Green Bay, WI!  'WOO, Spring Break!'
14:00 ynos i was thinking 54304 was a zip
14:00 Ponko92 in Green Bay? no chance
14:00 westmi .weather 49319
14:00 BotSteve Network error while retrieving weather. Wait 30 seconds and try again.
14:00 westmi ha
14:00 Ponko92 Football Season yes but not spring break
14:01 ynos westmi:shouldnt be much different than grr ;)
14:01 westmi yeah, I know, I was just messin with it
14:01 ynos ah
14:01 ynos tfw likes zips
14:02 ynos .tfw 49508
14:02 BotSteve 63�F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'Where life is mediocre'
14:02 westmi tfw?
14:02 westmi .tfw 49319
14:02 BotSteve 63�F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Cedar Springs, MI!  'Better than a sharp stick in the eye.'
14:02 westmi ah
14:02 ynos have you lived in cedartucky long?
14:03 westmi about 7 years
14:03 westmi going to move back to gr very soon
14:03 westmi looking for a place now
14:03 ynos its a nice area, my dad lives out on 17mi/long lake... i went to CTA for a while...
14:04 westmi eh...that's a matter of opinion, lol
14:04 ynos erp.. 18 mi/ lincoln lake.. i am south of 17 and licoln lake
14:04 westmi I hate the country, too far from anything
14:05 ynos i've lived in the UP and northern-mid-michigan
14:05 ynos cedar/sparta area is not bad
14:06 ynos lived on Valley by johnballpark for a while.. hated it
14:06 westmi yeah, still a 3 hour ride on a bike, or get in the car to get to town
14:06 westmi gr
14:06 ynos my bedroom was 10 feet from the neighbor's bathroom
14:06 exor674 .tfw 80228
14:06 BotSteve exor674: I have the following messages for you:
14:06 BotSteve At 04:23Z, CSMonster asked me to tell exor674 YAY!
14:06 BotSteve 57�F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Denver, CO!  'Everything's nice butter weather!'
14:07 ynos i got to listen to him take his morning consitutional every day at 5:15.
14:07 westmi my living room is right next to my neighbors b-room
14:07 ynos hated having people that close.
14:07 westmi I'm looking for a duplex type of situation, upstairs/downstairs
14:08 westmi I hate commuting to work
14:08 ynos northend, or wherever?
14:08 westmi yup
14:08 westmi northwest,east
14:09 ynos commuting isnt too bad, just have to be on something you like ;)
14:09 ynos ft500 ascot makes commuting fun
14:09 westmi ha
14:09 westmi yeah, it would
14:09 ynos and gets 60pmg
14:09 ynos mpg
14:10 westmi my bike gets 30miles per sandwich
14:11 ynos same here.. as long as i dont have to go more than 10 miles..
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14:11 westmi been riding the white pine trail a lot
14:11 ynos the 35ish mile commute makes biking impractical
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14:12 westmi yeah, i know what you mean.....
14:12 ynos used to ride from lakeview down to comstock park fairly often.
14:12 ynos the other thing that sucks is... there are not many ways to get from the north end to the south end w/o getting mushed by some crackhead who isnt paying attention.
14:13 ynos no good bike trails between ann and 28th
14:13 ynos not yet anyway
14:13 ynos some are on the plan.
14:13 westmi gotta watch the knuckelheads driving
14:13 westmi some of them will not give ya an inch
14:14 westmi I stick to the sidestreets in that area
14:14 ynos nope.. pantomime jumping on hoods when they do something is fun.
14:14 ynos share the sh!t out of them.
14:15 westmi lol
14:15 ynos BAM, 6ft4in 240lb guy jumping on someone's hood.
14:15 ynos gets attention.
14:15 westmi lol
14:15 ynos makes for bent wheels though.
14:15 ynos back to the truing rack
14:16 westmi I have thought about doing that a few times
14:16 westmi later
14:16 ynos the first time wasnt on purpose..
14:16 ynos the last time was.
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14:27 Cprossu_Laptop CaptainBoden: "<@CaptainBoden> is PCIe backwards compatible? Can I run a 2.1 card in a 2.0 slot and take a small performance hit?" of course it is! and you will not even take a performance hit, either!
14:27 Cprossu_Laptop good morning all!
14:28 BatSteve howdy Cprossu_Laptop
14:28 CaptainBoden really?
14:28 CaptainBoden ok, fill me in
14:28 Cprossu_Laptop basically there's more bandwidth in a pcie slot than any graphics card alone needs
14:28 Cprossu_Laptop with the x16 slot
14:29 CaptainBoden k
14:29 Cprossu_Laptop the extra bandwidth helps when you are running multiple video cards
14:29 CaptainBoden I am
14:29 Cprossu_Laptop in sli?
14:29 CaptainBoden no
14:29 Cprossu_Laptop then no performance hit
14:29 CaptainBoden feeding quad displays
14:29 Cprossu_Laptop =)
14:29 CaptainBoden k
14:29 Cprossu_Laptop yeah no performance hit
14:29 Cprossu_Laptop is this for the new NLE?
14:29 CaptainBoden I found out what happened to my computer.
14:30 Cprossu_Laptop fan sieze up?
14:30 CaptainBoden There are 2 video cards, and each of them has the exact same SEVEN caps blown.
14:30 Cprossu_Laptop wow
14:30 Cprossu_Laptop who made them?
14:30 Cprossu_Laptop got a model?
14:30 CaptainBoden xfx 8600gt
14:31 Cprossu_Laptop wow solid caps blew?
14:31 Cprossu_Laptop how do the fans feel?
14:32 CaptainBoden fine
14:32 CaptainBoden these are lytics
14:32 Cprossu_Laptop hrmmm
14:32 Cprossu_Laptop well being xfx they should be under a lifetime warranty
14:32 Cprossu_Laptop and if Druidic_Rifleman's canadian package arrived you should have a couple of 8800gt's
14:32 CaptainBoden They're so old it's better to get new ones, but I'll send these in.
14:33 Cprossu_Laptop they probably will send you better ones
14:33 Cprossu_Laptop they usually do
14:33 CaptainBoden I'll have to see where it is.
14:33 CaptainBoden Send me an email with details and I'll send these in and see what happens
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14:34 CaptainBoden But honestly, given that the computer spends 12 hours a day rendering HD video.....I got my money's worth, lol
14:34 CaptainBoden I beat the piss out of these cards.
14:36 CaptainBoden I was thinking of getting the ones on the list for the new computer, and i wanted to make sure they'd work
14:37 CaptainBoden I have an EVGA nForce 780i mainboard.
14:38 Cprossu_Laptop hrmmm they changed around their website
14:39 Cprossu_Laptop yeah they will work
14:39 Cprossu_Laptop and they are cheap
14:39 CaptainBoden It's the 132-CK-NF78
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14:39 CaptainBoden Cheap is relative, it'll take me 2 months to save up for a pair of those cards, lol
14:39 Cprossu_Laptop I may have a solution that's quicker for you though
14:39 Cprossu_Laptop and cheaper
14:39 CaptainBoden My personal allowance is $500 a month.
14:39 CaptainBoden what
14:41 Cprossu_Laptop let me check
14:41 Cprossu_Laptop were the 8600gt's dual dvi?
14:42 CaptainBoden yes, and I need dual DVI
14:42 CaptainBoden I'm feeding 4 DVI screens
14:45 Cprossu_Laptop bestbuy's inventory is breaking my balls
14:45 CaptainBoden lol
14:45 Cprossu_Laptop what other stores do you have?
14:45 Cprossu_Laptop officemax? staples?
14:46 CaptainBoden yes
14:46 CaptainBoden I'm in Grand Rapids, we have most everything.
14:46 Cprossu_Laptop cool. I am trying to find something you can just slap in, update the drivers, under $250 for 2 cards.
14:46 CaptainBoden good
14:46 Cprossu_Laptop and then just rock out with
14:47 CaptainBoden Needs to be better than what I was running, but that's not hard, lol
14:47 CaptainBoden and has to work with 4 DVIs
14:47 Cprossu_Laptop yeah it will
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14:50 Cprossu_Laptop found us a potential winner
14:51 Cprossu_Laptop let me find out if it's what I hope it is
14:51 SparkyProjects Are you aware there's also quad DVI cards ? i don't know if they work out cheaper, or arre any good for your needs.
14:51 CaptainBoden like, Matrox?
14:52 CaptainBoden I've never run a single quad
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14:52 CaptainBoden no point realy, I have 3 slots
14:52 CaptainBoden though....12 monitors.........that may be just enough to run AfterFX
14:53 SparkyProjects Matrox was one of them when i did an image search, or something like this http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/01/asus-quad-dvi-packing-eah3870-x2-1gb-top-gets-previewed/
14:53 SparkyProjects We used a quad card for our security set up in the last place on a dell computer
14:54 CaptainBoden brb
14:55 Cprossu_Laptop SparkyProjects: there are plenty of quad display cards
14:55 Cprossu_Laptop they aren't worth it for the main part
14:55 BatSteve Unrelated to the above - does anyone know what the actual name of the Wikipedia "numbered brackets" citation style is?
14:55 Cprossu_Laptop all 6800 series can actually drive 6 monitors
14:55 Cprossu_Laptop with the proper adapters
14:56 Cprossu_Laptop well 6850 and 6870
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15:04 Cprossu_Laptop CaptainBoden: best entertainment value-> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150513 and so far the local computer shops in your area aren't cheap or have a good selection AT ALL!
15:07 SparkyProjects BatSteve, i don't know if this helps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources
15:07 SparkyProjects look at 'list defined references'
15:07 BatSteve SparkyProjects: already found that, unfortunately it doesn't refer to a particular style that wikipedia adheres to
15:08 BatSteve The closest published style that I've found to what Wikipedia uses is the "IEEE Style"
15:08 BatSteve .w IEEE Style
15:08 BotSteve "The Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) style is a widely accepted format for writing research papers, commonly used in technical fields, particularly in computer science." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_Style
15:09 Cprossu_Laptop there's one more adapter we could use, CaptainBoden, but you would need to use HDMI to DVI adapters
15:09 SparkyProjects I googled you query and got this http://community.thomsonreuters.com/t5/EndNote-General/ACS-style-with-brackets/td-p/11304
15:09 Cprossu_Laptop BINGO
15:09 Cprossu_Laptop solution found sort of
15:09 Cprossu_Laptop http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstemplatemapper.jsp?id=pcat17071&amp;type=page&amp;initialize=false&amp;sp=%2Bcurrentprice+skuid&amp;nrp=15&amp;iht=n&amp;list=n&amp;sc=Global&amp;st=geforce&amp;usc=All+Categories&amp;ks=960&amp;prids=&amp;cp=2&amp;qp=&amp;_requestid=81616
15:10 Cprossu_Laptop nm I spoke too soon
15:10 Cprossu_Laptop order in store?!
15:10 Cprossu_Laptop damn
15:11 BatSteve SparkyProjects: Hey thank you!  What google term did you use?  I did not get that result in my search.
15:12 Kafka BatSteve: google's search algorithm is... od
15:12 Kafka *odd
15:12 Kafka no two people will have the same results
15:12 SparkyProjects I searched for 'Wikipedia "numbered brackets" citation style'
15:12 BatSteve intarasting
15:13 BatSteve Kafka: Google's search algorithm:  "from magic import voodoo, wizardry"
15:13 CaptainBoden ok,back
15:13 Kafka it takes into account all kinds of things... the  browser you're using, cookies, previous searches, OS, whether or not you're logged into a google account...
15:14 Cprossu_Laptop CaptainBoden: I am calling the 'walker' best buy now
15:14 SparkyProjects and country
15:14 CaptainBoden k
15:14 Kafka I've actually gotten completely different first page of results just by logging in to my google account before
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15:15 BotSteve At last!  My only friend!
15:17 Cprossu_Laptop rofl CaptainBoden I have bestbuy doing a physical shelf check
15:17 Cprossu_Laptop but CaptainBoden : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150513
15:18 Cprossu_Laptop ^ if we have to order it that's a good deal.
15:18 CaptainBoden lol, ok
15:18 Cprossu_Laptop btw grr computer stores charge a fuckin' premium over there
15:18 CaptainBoden oh hell yes
15:19 westmi did you check standard computer in gr?
15:20 SparkyProjects That last one is a double slot and only 2xhdmi output ?
15:20 Cj1corbystarlet i think any computer store charges a premium !  :)
15:20 westmi its on 6 th street right by the river
15:20 SparkyProjects *2xDVi
15:20 westmi in the phone book too
15:21 westmi i got a power supply from there once
15:23 Cprossu_Laptop SparkyProjects: it's a good card.
15:23 CaptainBoden they got it in stock?
15:23 Cprossu_Laptop working on best buy still
15:24 Cprossu_Laptop they don't know to play dead, act dumb, or jump off a bridge
15:24 SparkyProjects Maybe so, but hasn't Chris only got 3 slots ? and he would need 2 cards (= 4 slots)
15:24 CaptainBoden no, I have 3 physical slots but they're seperated
15:25 CaptainBoden it's a beast of a computer, I can easily fit 2, maybe 3 of those cards in my box.
15:25 SparkyProjects OK cool :)
15:25 CaptainBoden I have a LianLi roughly the size of my first apartment.
15:26 CaptainBoden ok guys, I gotta get to he electrical supply place, I have to make CNC cords today.
15:26 Cprossu_Laptop best buy sucks
15:26 CaptainBoden I'll be back, email me if they have the cards and where and I'll send someone to get them
15:26 Cprossu_Laptop they have 3 cards, all out of budget
15:26 Cprossu_Laptop and slow for the price
15:28 SparkyProjects Looks like Kidwell is at the lab
15:30 Cprossu_Laptop ok I am resorting to kludging
15:30 Cprossu_Laptop http://www.bestbuy.com/site/PNY+-+GeForce+GT+430+1GB+DDR3+PCI+Express+Graphics+Card/2265044.p?skuId=2265044&amp;id=1218317314615
15:30 Cprossu_Laptop x2
15:31 Cprossu_Laptop http://www.bestbuy.com/site/IOGEAR+-+HDMI-to-DVI+Video+Adapter/9660616.p?id=1218140274728&amp;skuId=9660616&amp;st=hdmi%20to%20dvi&amp;cp=1&amp;lp=4
15:31 Cprossu_Laptop x 2
15:31 Cprossu_Laptop nm
15:31 Cprossu_Laptop fuckkkk
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15:37 speedrunnerG55 Whats up Cprossu_Laptop
15:39 speedrunnerG55 Cprossu: ?
15:40 Cprossu_Laptop CaptainBoden : do you have hdmi cables to use/
15:40 Cprossu_Laptop I am trying to figure a stopgap so they can edit videos
15:41 Cprossu_Laptop since their graphics cards ate it.
15:41 Cprossu_Laptop speedrunnerG55: highway fucking robery
15:41 Cprossu_Laptop http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Rocketfish%26%23153%3B+-+HDMI-to-DVI+Adapter/9205898.p?id=1218058779773&amp;skuId=9205898&amp;st=hdmi%20to%20dvi&amp;cp=1&amp;lp=5
15:42 speedrunnerG55 That should be free
15:42 Cprossu_Laptop or under $10 at leasr
15:42 Cprossu_Laptop *T
15:42 speedrunnerG55 Included in anny video card and or konitor
15:42 speedrunnerG55 Monitor
15:43 Cprossu_Laptop monitor yes
15:43 Cprossu_Laptop but
15:43 Cprossu_Laptop not worth it
15:43 speedrunnerG55 Its not active
15:43 Cprossu_Laptop ok CaptainBoden this will need some imagination. You need two of these -> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/PNY+-+GeForce+GT+430+1GB+DDR3+PCI+Express+Graphics+Card/2265044.p?skuId=2265044&amp;id=1218317314615
15:44 speedrunnerG55 Or at least i do t think it is
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15:44 Cprossu_Laptop and either 2 DVI to HDMI cables, or 2 DVI TO HDMI adapters that you will put on the monitor side and use regular HDMI cables to interface to
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15:44 Cprossu_Laptop but it will drive 4 monitors
15:45 Cprossu_Laptop best buy is fucking expensive on those, Do you happen to have anything that you can use there already?
15:46 speedrunnerG55 4?
15:46 Cprossu_Laptop again you will either need 2 of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812270113 or 2 of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812270286&amp;cm_re=dvi_to_hdmi-_-12-270-286-_-Product these
15:47 Cprossu_Laptop speedrunnerG55: I mean 2 cards running a total of 4 monitors
15:47 speedrunnerG55 Oh
15:48 speedrunnerG55 Ive never used more than 2
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15:49 Obtuse_ good morning
15:49 * BatSteve wonders why 9800gtx's are still running $150 a piece, but 430s are $80
15:52 BatSteve oh well
15:52 BatSteve time to go generate revenue
15:52 BatSteve is now known as BatSteve-Away
15:52 speedrunnerG55 O_o
15:52 speedrunnerG55 BatSteve-Away: :(
15:56 Cprossu_Laptop oh CaptainBoden email sent
15:56 Dougy speedrunnerG55: i called you to see if you wanted to go to the lake with me and tits
15:56 Cprossu_Laptop Someone in grand rapids, do you have a source for hdmi to dvi cables or female hdmi to male dvi adapters?
15:56 speedrunnerG55 Lol tits
15:57 Cprossu_Laptop ... speedrunnerG55 when you grow up it'll be funny if you ever read your comments on the irc log
15:58 Cprossu_Laptop later bbl
15:58 speedrunnerG55 Dougy: Ah ok. Sry i was in school
15:58 speedrunnerG55 Lol Cprossu_Laptop
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16:01 * speedrunnerG55 mvi Cprossu_Laptop,hdmi to dvi adapter
16:02 speedrunnerG55 :)
16:04 MadManMarkAu So, what's happening in the HV lab today?
16:06 MadManMarkAu Also, doesn't Kidwell look like a schoolboy in those shorts? xD
16:09 speedrunnerG55 In the stream?
16:09 speedrunnerG55 Idk. Im not waching it
16:15 MadManMarkAu It seems Kidwell is doing some work on the power box for Gemeni
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16:15 MadManMarkAu As to what, exactly, he's doing, I have NFI
16:19 SparkyProjects Mark, Chris was talking about tuning the coils with a scope, i can see the scope there.
16:19 SparkyProjects Though i ddon't know what he's currently doing
16:20 SparkyProjects Nad i assume the other box is a sig gen
16:20 SparkyProjects *And
16:20 MadManMarkAu Ah, got you
16:20 MadManMarkAu I was wondering if this was going to happen
16:21 Obtuse_ hey guys, what would be a good android app that needs to be written
16:22 MadManMarkAu YAY! Camera operator, thank you
16:23 SparkyProjects Depends what your interests are, but for a geek it might be some sort of calculator, something like 'teslamap'
16:23 Nazzy tuning coils with a scope and tone gen ... makes much sense *nod*
16:23 MadManMarkAu Nazzy: It's more likely than you think.
16:23 Obtuse_ what would teslamap do?
16:23 Obtuse_ or is that already real
16:24 SparkyProjects It calculates the windings, transformer, capacitors etc for a tesla coil
16:24 SparkyProjects It's already real for computer
16:25 MadManMarkAu G'day, random geeky-looking guy on camera
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16:26 Nazzy awesome ... I'm on the disclaimer credits twice
16:26 SparkyProjects Shame they haven't got a laptop down there with IRC on, could be TGGHVL
16:26 SparkyProjects I did suggest it to Chris
16:26 Obtuse_ I have thought of building a 555 app. ripe with calculations and example circuits you can do with a 555 timer
16:27 SparkyProjects That would be useful too, a good range of geek apps to sell in the store :)
16:28 Obtuse_ there's already quite a few. you just have to dig for them
16:30 MadManMarkAu Obtuse_: A multi-calculator for electronics. You know, calculating LC/RC/LR res. freq, ohms law calc, capacitor energy calc, series/paralell resistor/cap calc... All the good stuff
16:30 Obtuse_ that i am sure exists
16:31 MadManMarkAu Yeah, probably
16:32 MadManMarkAu Well, take one of the other apps, and put a clock in it
16:32 MadManMarkAu You know, like they did to radios
16:32 MadManMarkAu And fridges
16:32 MadManMarkAu And microwaves
16:32 MadManMarkAu And cars
16:32 MadManMarkAu And TVs
16:32 MadManMarkAu etc...
16:34 MadManMarkAu (That was a Simpsons reference...)
16:35 Obtuse_ I don't know that one
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16:36 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Sparky Projects on UK Hackerspaces
16:38 Kafka is now known as EntKitty
16:54 SparkyProjects Are they about to power up Gemini ? Paul cleared out the cameras from the cage
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16:56 MadManMarkAu Gemeni powers up!
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16:57 Cprossu fucking ad
16:58 MadManMarkAu It's way over
17:00 Nazzy so I'm trying to read through the new random junk thread... and I think someone put some Acid in my drink
17:00 SparkyProjects Why ?
17:01 Nazzy your lamb video post
17:01 SparkyProjects :D
17:01 SparkyProjects There's more of that on the site
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17:04 Nazzy I'm not sure I cope with more
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17:08 Nazzy I don't know what that guy is smoking, but it's some really good shit
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17:08 SparkyProjects 'Cows' is probably best viewed while drunk :D
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17:15 MadManMarkAu Oh, looks like they set up an antenna
17:15 MadManMarkAu Are they going to run the coils and try to tune it that way?
17:16 Obtuse_ yay, i finally came up with an idea.
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17:16 MadManMarkAu Obtuse_: What is it?
17:16 Obtuse_ i'm gonna make a truth table app
17:16 MadManMarkAu Haha, cool
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17:16 Obtuse_ you will also be able to email the table and equation to yourself
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17:17 BotSteve At last!  My only friend!
17:18 speedrunnerG55 Hi
17:18 speedrunnerG55 BotSteve: :)
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17:19 MadManMarkAu Thanks, BotSteve
17:19 BotSteve Happy to help, MadManMarkAu
17:19 Cprossu woop
17:20 speedrunnerG55 Lol help help help
17:20 Cprossu help?
17:20 Cprossu what's up?
17:20 speedrunnerG55 Hisquit message
17:20 Cprossu F12?
17:20 speedrunnerG55 Ye
17:20 Cprossu <presses>
17:20 Cprossu does nothing
17:21 speedrunnerG55 I thought f12 was help. Oh well
17:21 Cprossu F1 is help
17:21 speedrunnerG55 Oh
17:21 speedrunnerG55 X_x
17:21 Cprossu ^ headshot
17:22 speedrunnerG55 I wonder whats f12 is then
17:22 Cprossu whatever you want it to be
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17:22 speedrunnerG55 Lol ok
17:22 Cprossu yay it's the kidwell with a tek scope!
17:23 speedrunnerG55 Scope ftw
17:23 Cprossu Tek = geek slang for Tektronix
17:26 speedrunnerG55 Yayy the stream wirks for iphone now :D
17:27 speedrunnerG55 Works*
17:29 injektion It works on HTML5 now?
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17:31 Ponko92 right i'm FINALLY back
17:33 MadManMarkAu wb
17:33 injektion http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/microsoft-no-way-to-support-webgl-and-meet-our-security-needs.ars
17:33 injektion pffft
17:34 Cprossu wow Ponko92's finally back
17:34 Cprossu and didn't kill chat!
17:34 Cprossu it's a fucking miracle!
17:34 Ponko92 -_- hmmm
17:34 Cprossu ^_^
17:34 injektion They are butthurt because no one chose DirectX
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17:34 Ponko92 is there a slap command on this thing
17:34 Ponko92 ;) lol
17:34 Python hello world
17:34 speedrunnerG55 injektion: Can you tell?
17:34 * Cprossu slaps Ponko92 around a bit with the /me command
17:35 Ponko92 hello Python
17:35 speedrunnerG55 And hi Python Ponko92 and injektion
17:35 injektion Hi
17:35 Python hello everyone
17:35 * Ponko92 flashes Arizona University Scholarship in his face
17:35 Python cool
17:35 Ponko92 if you want me to come PHYSICALLY slap you i'll stop now :P
17:36 Ponko92 lol
17:36 Cprossu rofl nice
17:36 Cprossu which one btw?
17:36 Cprossu UofA, NAU, or ASU?
17:36 Cprossu either way you have a long trip to make
17:36 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: kaithar on UK Hackerspaces.....kaithar on UK Meet up planning
17:36 Cprossu just some are longer drives than others
17:36 Ponko92 the AZ Wildcats so UofA
17:36 Cprossu you have a long haul then lol
17:37 Ponko92 hey it would be a road trip :P
17:37 MadManMarkAu Oh, looking at the scope, I'd say Kidwell just found the resonant frequency of the secondary
17:38 Cprossu it's about 120 miles or so, @ Ponko92
17:38 injektion Cprossu: Do you live anywhere around Marcopia County?
17:38 Cprossu you can find out my exact addy
17:38 Cprossu just look up my callsign
17:38 Ponko92 hey my fiancee lives that far from me here
17:39 * Cprossu mutters lazy motherfucker
17:39 injektion If you live anywhere Marcopia County how's that sheriff working out :P
17:40 Cprossu he's a doof bag.
17:40 injektion People voted for him so he cannot be that bad :P
17:40 Cprossu just like every other politician
17:40 Cprossu the people here are that bad
17:40 Cprossu rabbid
17:40 Cprossu they want to go out in the streets shooting mexicans...
17:40 injektion I'd be scared if I didn't vote for him I'd be thrown in his tent city jail
17:41 Cprossu nah
17:41 Cprossu he's a pussy
17:41 Ponko92 are you refering to me Cprossu
17:41 Cprossu no
17:41 Cprossu the sheriff
17:41 Ponko92 lol was going to say
17:41 Cprossu and one day they'll find out how much he's stolen from public funding
17:43 injektion http://www.examiner.com/law-enforcement-in-national/james-bond-meets-sheriff-joe-arpaio-brits-new-crime-fighting-agency
17:44 Cprossu but the only thing that I can tell you is he's a liar and a thief just like every other elected official down here.
17:45 injektion Do the voters have anyone else to vote for or is it just him?
17:45 Cprossu yeah but as they say in the south park episode it's a choice between a giant douche and a turd sandwich
17:46 Cprossu plus I am starting to think the electoral college was right, people are too stupid to vote.
17:46 injektion ^
17:48 Phu evening all
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17:48 Python evening
17:49 Cprossu morning all
17:49 Cprossu xD
17:49 Python *good
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17:49 Python ***
17:50 Phu hmm.. no captain's blog to watch while I eat dinner.... I shall have to improvise!
17:50 Python test
17:50 Python ***
17:50 Cprossu Phu there's tesla coil tuning going on on the livestream
17:51 Phu noted :)
17:53 Cprossu astro73|derrial
17:53 Cprossu I just had an idea
17:53 Cprossu LASER projection!
17:54 Cprossu for the voltmeter
17:54 Python cool
17:54 * Python puts on his safty glasses
17:54 * Cprossu updates thread
18:00 Obtuse_ I still like the Spark fun LEDs
18:00 Obtuse_ their huge wall clock is awesome
18:00 Obtuse_ but I am biased towards electronics
18:07 injektion I need this http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/frustrations/e718/?pfm=homepage_Featured_4
18:07 ynos Are they done tuning?
18:08 ynos plzno, want to watch.. gd meetings getting in the way of life
18:10 speedrunnerG55 Hi
18:10 speedrunnerG55 Whats up everyone
18:12 ynos not much
18:12 ynos seems pretty dead in her atm
18:13 speedrunnerG55 :(
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18:19 speedrunnerG55 :)
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18:25 Nazzy http://notalwaysright.com/lowering-the-toner/12082 <--- thermal printer would match the requirements.  or  a laser etching setup if you want to be picky, but the print quality is dire.
18:26 injektion Well thermal printers are not for archive use as well Nazzy
18:26 Nazzy very true, but he didn't ask for that
18:27 Nazzy he just wanted a printer that didn't need ink or toner
18:27 Phu Dear UStream advertisers. Please explain to me what reasons you think I would *ever* want to use my mouse to "remove the stains" in an interactive advert for Vanish OxiAction.
18:31 Obtuse_ yea, ustream needs to read the title of the stream
18:31 Obtuse_ the word geek at least points them in some direction
18:33 injektion Yesterday when Cory was playing music on the live stream I kept on getting ustream text ads in some asian language
18:36 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Bill Jones on Power Wheels Robot.....Cprossu on Project Log: Large HVL Voltage Display
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18:48 speedrunnerG55 Cprossu: Apperantly im not doing basic
18:48 speedrunnerG55 Just assembely.
18:50 Nazzy "I'm not sucking my thumb, just the hunting knife" <-- there, I fixed it for you
18:52 * Nazzy pursues a curious train of thought and comes up with the following: "I wonder if anyone has tried building an arduino based emulator for an old cartridge console
18:55 injektion I'd like to an arduino that keeps track of car maintenance
18:56 injektion Then again I probably could do the same with an LED sign and a perl script
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19:03 BotSteve At last!  My only friend!
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19:06 speedrunnerG55_ Hi
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19:07 Python hello
19:09 thegamer579 hi
19:16 injektion bored
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19:16 Fulsy Gentlemen
19:16 injektion Sleep mode activated
19:17 injektion is now known as injektion|afk
19:17 Fulsy How did the new disclaimer go?
19:21 SparkyProjects I don't think Chris has had time to read it yet
19:21 Fulsy oh
19:22 SparkyProjects search for 'googledocs' in the log, the link was posted for him, but they were talking about gfxx cards
19:23 SparkyProjects or was it docs.google
19:27 Cprossu https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sis6_2eZd9DxiwcHcomtrDmUo6FdgIKPOfgYALJo5h4/edit?hl=en_US&amp;authkey=CIuH5-UF&amp;pli=1
19:27 Cprossu ^ disclaimer
19:29 Druidic_Rifleman whats up
19:29 Python http://hackaday.com/2011/06/17/homebrew-ttl-logic-computer/
19:29 Python looks cool;
19:32 Fulsy love the disclaimer
19:32 Fulsy I know who ate all the doughnuts
19:33 Fulsy and the taco bell
19:35 Fulsy watching that above video
19:35 Fulsy amazed.
19:36 Python Im going to post it in the fourms
19:36 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Sparky Projects on UK Hackerspaces.....Sparky Projects on Project Log: Large HVL Voltage Display
19:37 Fulsy I wonder if it would be possible to make a homemade string synth using reference pitches from my hammond
19:38 Fulsy Taking the sine waves from the tone generator and converting them into sawtooth waves
19:48 ynos some silver fulminate "snap pops" would be a fun prank in there.
19:50 ynos Fulsy:Might be easier to get a some of the little maxim function generators on a chip...
19:51 ynos then make some LFOs
19:51 ynos then spend the rest of your time making some filters.
19:51 ynos lots of filters
19:51 ynos voltage controlled
19:52 Cprossu going hot?
19:54 ynos hot?
19:54 MoxieMike cold?
19:54 ynos peanutbutter
19:54 Cprossu the livestream
19:55 Cprossu they are about to apply power I think
19:58 Cprossu that didn't sound good
19:58 MoxieMike no it didn't
19:59 SparkyProjects I think the mic went down :P
19:59 SparkyProjects maybe not, it just went suddenly quiet
20:00 Cprossu the mic's fine o_o
20:00 MoxieMike ok, so what do you guys think is going wrong?
20:00 Cprossu the rotary spark gap
20:00 Cprossu is a piece of crap
20:00 Fulsy Thanks, ynos
20:00 Cprossu at least the motor attached to it is
20:01 Cprossu it's a mickey moused induction motor modified to do synchronous
20:01 Cprossu and abused at that
20:01 MoxieMike ah, may I ask why a synched rotary sparkgap instead of any other type of spark gap?
20:02 Cprossu because it closes the gap on the highest peak of AC incoming
20:02 MoxieMike ok
20:02 MoxieMike as opposed to a little after the peak due to time delay from spark start?
20:03 Cprossu well the point is it's in sync with the wave
20:03 Cprossu look at a snchronous motor with something attached to it on a video
20:10 Cprossu slowdowwwnnnn
20:10 Cprossu haahaha
20:11 Phu I'm in the lab the sparks are impressive... on ustream you can't see 'em :P
20:11 Phu I'm sure in the... evne
20:11 Cprossu I could see them
20:11 Cprossu I have my gamma jacked way up though
20:12 Phu ah that's probably helping
20:12 Cprossu and fullscreened
20:12 Phu I have fullscreen on a 28" widescreen, but its linux where hardware accelerated flash as a myth.
20:12 MoxieMike well, although we can't see the sparks, we can see that ante room light up like someone is welding
20:12 Phu oh yeah.. I see the light up effect
20:12 ynos alright, time to go do more raceprep. anyone who wants to watch idiots fly around grattanraceway.com on 40+ year old bikes, come on out.. races start around noon on sat/sunday
20:13 MoxieMike arc lamps are very bright
20:13 ynos g'night everyone.
20:13 MoxieMike g'night ynos
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20:14 Phu anyone ever installed Windows FLP to a Toshiba Libretto?
20:15 Cprossu no but I did install nlite on one
20:15 Phu nlite?
20:16 Cprossu more like an nlite'd install
20:16 Cprossu but you get the point
20:16 Cprossu .g nlite xp
20:16 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.nliteos.com/
20:17 * Phu browses
20:18 Phu interesting sir
20:18 Phu damnit... STOP 7B on restart again
20:19 Phu how can you get INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE on the first restart.
20:23 injektion|afk Phu: Check the disk for errors/bad hard disk
20:24 Cprossu_Laptop that's not where 7b comes from
20:24 Cprossu_Laptop 7b is controller.
20:24 Phu its a fresh install on a good disk.
20:24 Cprossu_Laptop Phu: I used nlite because I had to build the hdd controller into the install CD IIRC
20:24 Phu cprossu: the confusing bit is that if I do safe mode, it loads about 30-odd files, *then* STOPs.
20:24 Cprossu_Laptop driver wise
20:24 Cprossu_Laptop yeah I am aware
20:25 injektion|afk I replaced a HD in a PC where the error was INACCESSABLE_BOOT_DEVICE with 7b and it's worked so far for about a year
20:25 Phu well, I can install a hdd controller via the F6 option
20:25 Cprossu_Laptop that little thing is a real pain in the ass to get running right
20:25 Cprossu_Laptop injektion|afk: this is a different can of worms
20:25 Phu will that work, or do I need to rejig the installation structure?
20:25 Cprossu_Laptop Phu: you can try but you can't use a usb floppy with that machine iirc
20:26 Cprossu_Laptop and remember F6 only works with floppy.
20:26 Phu yah.. but I got the propper BIOS-handled PCMCIA floppy drive.
20:26 Cprossu_Laptop do you have a floppy drive for it that's not usb?
20:26 Cprossu_Laptop good good
20:26 Cprossu_Laptop use that
20:27 Cprossu_Laptop We didn't have a floppy drive with ours, it made that task impossible!
20:27 injektion|afk Got a USB thumbdrive?
20:27 Cprossu_Laptop injektion|afk: doesn't work
20:27 Phu I've got the PCMCIA CD drive too, but the BIOS won't boot from it. Which is an arse.
20:27 injektion|afk Is this XP?
20:27 Cprossu_Laptop yes.
20:27 Phu don't suppose you got the controller drivers handy anywhere?
20:28 Cprossu_Laptop no I'd have to look them up
20:28 Cprossu_Laptop give me the full model #
20:28 Phu roger. I shall exercise the google-fu.
20:28 Phu its a Libretto 100CT.
20:28 Phu model # PA1254E
20:28 Cprossu_Laptop injektion|afk ^ look that up to see the beast we are talking about
20:29 injektion|afk Why the fuck do you want to put XP on that
20:29 Cprossu_Laptop because it's tiny, injektion|afk
20:29 Phu exactly.... its perfect for armchair computing.
20:30 injektion|afk Windows XP on a Intel Pentium 266 MHz
20:30 injektion|afk ab*
20:30 injektion|afk an*
20:30 Phu I've got a ready-installed HD with Win95 on it, but that won't run Google Chrome *g*
20:30 Cprossu_Laptop it runs fine
20:30 Phu injektion|afk: not quite. Windows FLP. Windows with all the pointless stuff removed.
20:30 injektion|afk How much RAM?
20:30 Phu 64Mb.
20:30 Cprossu_Laptop I've run XP on a pentium 150 before
20:31 Cprossu_Laptop I still think you need to use nlite though, phu
20:32 Phu I might go down that route if I can't find a driver floppy arrangement.
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20:35 Cprossu_Laptop ooooooooh
20:36 Cprossu_Laptop there is a way around it
20:36 Cprossu_Laptop do you have a way to dump a file on the hdd directly?
20:36 Cprossu_Laptop like 2.5" ide -> usb?
20:36 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: kaithar on UK Hackerspaces.....python on [HackaDay] DUO Adept - Homebrew TTL logic computer
20:37 Cprossu_Laptop leave your C: drive formatted fat, Phu
20:37 Phu its FAT32 at present.
20:37 Cprossu_Laptop k
20:38 Cprossu_Laptop so flp... hrmmm
20:38 Phu I got an "installation" partition of 2GB FAT32, and an OS partition (which becomes drive C) of 5GB FAT32.
20:38 Phu seeing as one does not simply boot the CD in Mordor.
20:39 Cprossu_Laptop yeah I cee
20:39 Cprossu_Laptop *see
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20:39 Cprossu_Laptop the long and short of it is I compiled my own version with nlite
20:40 Cprossu_Laptop it was years and years ago
20:40 Cprossu_Laptop so I don't think I have it anymore
20:40 Cprossu_Laptop but it only took me a few tries
20:40 Cprossu_Laptop such a cool little machine too
20:40 Phu well my google-fu is failing me on the controller drivers :(
20:40 Cprossu_Laptop I wish that one was mine
20:41 injektion|afk There is no BIOS option for changing how the IDE controller acts?
20:41 Cprossu_Laptop rofl no
20:41 Phu injektion|afk: only "Standard IDE" or "Enhanced iDE"
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20:41 Phu and if I select the former I get "No OS found"
20:41 Cprossu_Laptop it's locked down tighter than... <insert virgin sacrifice reference here>
20:42 Phu yeah... toshiba's early laptop BIOSes are not known for their flexibility.
20:42 Cprossu_Laptop actually what bios version are you running?
20:42 Phu k
20:42 Cprossu_Laptop I seem to recall I needed to flash it
20:42 Phu one sec even
20:42 Phu </random keystrokes>
20:43 Cprossu_Laptop ooooooooh this could come in handy
20:43 Cprossu_Laptop http://www.josephn.net/toshiba_libretto_110ct
20:43 injektion|afk I just found that lol
20:43 Phu yeah, I got that open ;)
20:43 Phu downloading the files requires registation however
20:44 Phu Right... this identifies itself as ACPI BIOS version = 7.20
20:44 Cprossu_Laptop http://www.josephn.net/windows_flp_libretto
20:44 tonsofpcs Cprossu_Laptop / steve - how's it going?
20:44 Cprossu_Laptop is this what you were following?
20:45 Phu Cprossu_Laptop: yeah... with the CompHell link to the full procedure
20:45 Cprossu_Laptop going good steve's not here yet
20:45 Cprossu_Laptop that didn't exist when I did it, Phu, rofl
20:45 Cprossu_Laptop I banged my head against a wall for hours until I got it all working
20:45 Cprossu_Laptop then I made an image of it and burned it on a cd
20:46 Cprossu_Laptop actually
20:46 Cprossu_Laptop !
20:46 Cprossu_Laptop let me call him!
20:46 Cprossu_Laptop he might still have it!
20:46 Cprossu_Laptop but here's what you need
20:46 * Phu is attentive
20:46 Cprossu_Laptop a 40pin ide to 2.5" adaptor for a regular pc
20:46 Cprossu_Laptop as it's an old version of ghost
20:47 Phu right...
20:47 Cprossu_Laptop hang on let me ring him up
20:47 Phu well I can manage that
20:47 Cprossu_Laptop every geek who's done laptops has one somwhere
20:48 Cprossu_Laptop sweet he's home
20:48 Cprossu_Laptop fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
20:48 Cprossu_Laptop he sold it 2 years ago =(
20:48 Phu ah :(
20:49 Cprossu_Laptop and he might have the cd still :)
20:49 Cprossu_Laptop xD
20:49 Cprossu_Laptop he said he'd keep an eye out for it but it's not where he left it =(
20:50 Phu well.. I have a BIOS 8.1 updater... think that'll help?
20:50 Cprossu_Laptop give it a shot
20:50 Cprossu_Laptop He'll call me if he finds it
20:50 Phu cool. cheers for that.
20:50 astro73|derrial is that paul and chris? It doesn't quite look like it....
20:51 Cprossu_Laptop no it's not, one is chris though
20:51 Cprossu_Laptop I don't know where paul went to
20:51 Cprossu_Laptop astro73|derrial: I had an idea but it was overuled it seems rofl
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20:52 astro73|derrial Cprossu_Laptop: an idea? for what?
20:52 Cprossu_Laptop your project
20:52 astro73|derrial oh? I'm all ears
20:52 Cprossu_Laptop laser projection,
20:52 astro73|derrial Would that work in daylight?
20:52 Cprossu_Laptop hells yes
20:52 Cprossu_Laptop especially a green laser
20:53 tonsofpcs Cprossu_Laptop: are you @ tgg? or do you mean 'here' as in in-channel?
20:53 Cprossu_Laptop in this channel
20:53 astro73|derrial that's my biggest concern with any projection system
20:53 Cprossu_Laptop I'm in AZ
20:53 Cprossu_Laptop .tfw 85020
20:53 BotSteve 101�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'Don't own a grill? Just use the driveway.'
20:53 tonsofpcs that's what I thought
20:53 tonsofpcs .tfw 13760
20:53 BotSteve 68�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Endicott, NY!  'What would you do for a holyshititsniceout bar?'
20:53 astro73|derrial .tfw 49301
20:53 BotSteve 77�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Ada, MI!  'I can't  believe it's not porn!'
20:53 Cprossu_Laptop but his project is for there
20:53 Cprossu_Laptop there being tgg
20:54 Cprossu_Laptop and steve should show up within the next hour xD
20:54 astro73|derrial also, mapping a laser to letters sounds kinda really hard
20:54 Cprossu_Laptop astro73|derrial: mirrors and drawing
20:54 Cprossu_Laptop or worst case scenario fixed laser segments
20:56 Cprossu_Laptop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmZzzr02ESU&amp;feature=related <- astro73|derrial
20:57 Cprossu_Laptop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6mRUyWT6b4&amp;feature=related
20:58 Cprossu_Laptop ^ either way you get the idea
20:59 mantere http://www.digitaltrends.com/international/japanese-scientists-creates-meat-out-of-feces/
21:00 Cprossu_Laptop I hope the shit they used didn't stink
21:00 Phu right... booting the floppy with the BIOS update
21:02 Phu ugh.. this is the bit I hate... "erasing and writing BIOS"
21:03 Phu well the BIOS update succeeded...
21:03 Cprossu_Laptop that's good
21:03 Cprossu_Laptop now comes the cross fingers part
21:03 Cprossu_Laptop does it still boot?
21:03 Phu heh... first boot got exactly 2.5 seconds further along before STOPping :P
21:04 Cprossu_Laptop lol
21:04 Cprossu_Laptop actually WAIT
21:04 Cprossu_Laptop I GOT AN IDEA
21:04 Cprossu_Laptop press F5 during the bootup
21:05 Phu safe mode won't work either....
21:05 Cprossu_Laptop you should get a chance to select something other than ACPI
21:05 Cprossu_Laptop select "Standard PC"
21:05 Cprossu_Laptop instead
21:05 Cprossu_Laptop Phu: I am talking something completely different
21:05 Cprossu_Laptop I think the hotkey is F5
21:06 Cprossu_Laptop during the blue screen install loading process
21:06 Cprossu_Laptop I'm trying to remember
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21:06 Phu don't have that option. U git safe mode (3 variants) enable boot logging, enable vga mode, last known good configuration, directory services restore  mode, debugging mode, disable automatic restart, start windows normally, reboot, or return to OS menu
21:06 Cprossu_Laptop ouch that hurt
21:07 Fulsy what the hell was THAT
21:07 Cprossu_Laptop we hear you loud and clear
21:07 Cprossu_Laptop what's up steve!
21:07 Cprossu_Laptop cool. got your 6.2.1 ready steve?
21:07 Phu evening TGGMC
21:07 Cprossu_Laptop rofl
21:08 Cprossu_Laptop it is
21:08 Cprossu_Laptop hey there's the code for you in
21:08 Cprossu_Laptop PM, tggmc
21:08 Cprossu_Laptop it's already spinning down rofl
21:09 Cprossu_Laptop lol RF
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21:10 Cprossu_Laptop are you guys using kidwells hub?
21:10 Cprossu_Laptop ^ tggmc
21:11 Cprossu_Laptop yeah
21:11 Cprossu_Laptop lost stream
21:11 Phu wrong button
21:11 Fulsy stream down
21:11 Cprossu_Laptop so I can't hear you
21:11 Ponko92 Cprossu and your Arizona hacking ways
21:12 * Ponko92 is back but is suming up which college to go for
21:12 Cprossu_Laptop are we coming back on air, tggmc?
21:12 Phu joy. Dettol advert.
21:12 Fulsy Ad
21:13 Ponko92 99.9% though Phu
21:13 Cprossu_Laptop lol mine didn't even come back up
21:13 Fulsy I got an Iams ad
21:13 Phu Ponko92: of advert, or of germs ? :P
21:13 Fulsy And now I got a throbber
21:13 Ponko92 you know ;)
21:13 Phu I'm stuck on the throbber now
21:14 Ponko92 the interactive ads bore me to tears
21:14 Fulsy throbber goes round and round
21:14 Ponko92 Phu you mean the rotating circle of uncertainty
21:15 Fulsy round and round the throbber goes
21:15 Fulsy where it stops, no one knows
21:15 tonsofpcs i guess steve is in...
21:15 * tonsofpcs loads stream
21:15 Cprossu_Laptop yeah he is
21:15 Cprossu_Laptop stream god borkedddddddddd
21:15 Phu Ponko92: at least its not the Mac OS X spinning beachball of death
21:15 Ponko92 oh god that
21:15 tonsofpcs now that I have some time to kill, I should look for mass SDI<>composite converting products
21:15 Cprossu_Laptop I always called it the pinwheel of death
21:16 Fulsy Hit refresh
21:16 Fulsy Got hyundai ad
21:16 Cprossu_Laptop I did no video though
21:16 Fulsy :D
21:16 Ponko92 huzah
21:16 Phu "the function you have requested has screwed your system royally. Please prepare to hit the power button"
21:16 Cprossu_Laptop steve I am starting echolink
21:16 Fulsy LulzSec's sappin the stream
21:16 * Phu refreshes
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21:16 tonsofpcs Phu: that's what you get for booting windows.
21:16 tggmc I will get a node up here
21:16 Phu tonsofpcs: nono - thats the meaning of the OS X spinning beachball of death ;)
21:16 * Ponko92 got Harpic ad
21:17 Cprossu_Laptop tggmc looks like stream is deadddd
21:17 muffin_ what happened to the stream DX?
21:17 tonsofpcs Phu: eh, I'm gonna go sit on my joyboard now.
21:17 * tonsofpcs got a DID for his SIP codec today :D gonna try using it instead of a traditional telephone hybrid for a show on tuesday, methinks
21:17 Fulsy Commentary node
21:17 injektion|afk Phu: What spinning beachball of death?
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21:17 injektion|afk I never got thay
21:17 Phu injektion|afk: go google it.
21:17 injektion|afk that*
21:18 Ponko92 its that beachball that rotates when something isn't working
21:18 Cprossu http://atwestern.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c4ede53ef010535fcc57b970b-500wi
21:18 tonsofpcs injektion|afk: you never got it?  what about the fused bomb?
21:18 Cprossu ^
21:18 injektion|afk The macs and windows machines in this house are pretty much the same stability wise
21:18 injektion|afk tonsofpcs: The fused bomb was pre OS X
21:18 injektion|afk More like OS7
21:18 Cprossu injektion|afk: surely you have seen it
21:18 tonsofpcs injektion|afk: both are very stable when stacked as tables :)
21:18 Cprossu http://atwestern.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c4ede53ef010535fcc57b970b-500wi
21:18 injektion|afk nope Cprossu never got it
21:19 Phu the best one I've seen is a boot failure on an SGI Indy.
21:19 Cprossu lies.
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21:19 Cprossu all lies, injektion|afk
21:19 Phu lo, from the speaker comes the sound of a crashing car...
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21:19 Cprossu because that's the standard wait cursor
21:19 injektion|afk Cprossu: I've only had one kernel panic that was due to a faulty NTFS driver
21:19 Cprossu if you haven't seen it then you are blind
21:19 tonsofpcs 8, I believe did.  System 6 had the wristwatch... not sure if 7 was wristwatch or bomb...
21:20 Cprossu my favorite was dead mac x_x
21:20 Cprossu |x_x|
21:20 Cprossu and 0x000ffwhatever
21:20 tonsofpcs oh, maybe dead-mac was 6, wristwatch was 7, bomb was 8?
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21:20 Cprossu no bomb was there
21:20 Cprossu but meant OS error
21:20 Cprossu as opposed to hardware
21:20 tonsofpcs eh, it's been a while since i broke a mac
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21:20 tonsofpcs too lazy to go to the closet and get the powerbook out
21:20 Cprossu http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQC-xnKu-mwd_5v9CauPU7h320k6yFS_Q7-ajB8d2P_8FWAeG8c8A&amp;t=1
21:20 tonsofpcs (it runs system6-next-to-latest)
21:21 Ponko92 DETTOL NO TOUCH AD FTW
21:21 Cprossu but this is an unhappy macnam
21:21 Cprossu UNHAPPY MACNAM!
21:21 Ponko92 and i have caps lock off now
21:21 Cprossu ^ firesign theator reference
21:21 Cprossu you broke the president!
21:22 Ponko92 it happens
21:22 Fulsy That Cory is a gaben
21:22 Fulsy oh shit
21:22 injektion|afk OS X isn't as shitty as some of you think it's actually quite stable
21:22 Fulsy Just had a power surge where I live
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21:23 dbshortwave mmm
21:23 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-uMzALKgHI
21:23 Cprossu ^ I think this is the one
21:23 tggmc cprossu what is your node #
21:23 Phu WHY THE HELL DO I WANT TO INTERACT WITH AN ADVERTISEMENT FOR FEMALE LEG HAIR REMOVAL
21:23 Sgt_Lemming injektion|afk, it is relatively stable, but like any OS can be bought down by bad software or drivers
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21:24 injektion|afk I've had none of the common OS X issues then again I do not have a lot of software installed or background processes
21:24 injektion|afk is now known as injektion
21:24 Seroster BatSteve-Away?
21:24 Seroster I R longin for you!
21:25 Sgt_Lemming .seen BatSteve
21:25 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: I last saw batsteve 5.55 hours ago at 2011-06-17 15:52:08 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 21:25:08 UTC
21:25 muffin_ wheres the stream DX? i cant see it
21:25 Seroster dx?
21:26 Seroster I don't know if that means something or if it was a typo =P
21:26 muffin_ its a face. xP
21:26 Cprossu KF7POU 592900
21:26 muffin_ sorry
21:26 Seroster muffin, Eh
21:26 Cprossu I should really write that down, KD8LLK
21:26 Seroster .stream
21:26 BotSteve The Geek Group Live Web Stream can be found at: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-geek-group-behind-the-scenes-live-feed
21:26 Cprossu ^ tggmc
21:27 Cprossu trying to connect
21:28 tonsofpcs note: tggmc: if you want to talk to us, use IRC
21:28 Cprossu anybody there, tggmc?!
21:28 tggmc no
21:28 tonsofpcs heh
21:29 Cprossu KF7POU on node 592900
21:29 Cprossu and it's not connecting
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21:30 Cprossu and the steam is also dead as a possum that's been run over by 3 18 wheelers and an asphault paver
21:30 dbshortwave i wish i could abuse my liver right about now
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21:31 injektion I need a bigger HD
21:31 * Sgt_Lemming lends injektion his 12TB file server
21:33 Cprossu tggmc: did your router eat shit again somehow?
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21:37 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Sparky Projects on UK Hackerspaces
21:37 Cprossu_Laptop oh god. I wonder if the jupiter server is acting as a BOOTP server
21:38 Cprossu_Laptop and if it's still attached to the network?! (shudder)
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21:40 Ender_ test
21:40 Cprossu_Laptop test
21:40 dbshortwave tset
21:40 Cprossu_Laptop what's your game, Ender_?
21:41 tonsofpcs Cprossu_Laptop: probably....
21:41 tonsofpcs but it should be bound to just one interface
21:41 Ender_ Someone on ustream claims he heard an explosion  any info?
21:41 Cprossu_Laptop don't worry nothing exploded
21:41 tonsofpcs andd that interface should be forced to 10meg-half due to the hub
21:41 Cprossu_Laptop tonsofpcs: no
21:41 Cprossu_Laptop you shush
21:42 tonsofpcs mind you, _should_
21:42 Cprossu_Laptop I never had to do that on any of my cabletron gear
21:42 Cprossu_Laptop ever
21:42 Cprossu_Laptop I used to run coax as my backbone
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21:42 tonsofpcs Cprossu_Laptop: aren't you using 10bT into a hub with built in converter now?
21:43 Cprossu_Laptop we will be but first they have a mess to clean up and a stream to fix
21:43 tonsofpcs or has that not shown up?
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21:43 tonsofpcs Cprossu_Laptop: your last line seems to support ender's explosion claims....
21:43 Cprossu_Laptop tonsofpcs: other issues now
21:43 Cprossu_Laptop lol no
21:44 Phu Cprossu: i found the standard PC option
21:44 Cprossu_Laptop the mess to clean up is bootp on their network
21:44 Cprossu_Laptop is my guess
21:44 Cprossu_Laptop Phu: cool!
21:44 Phu you have to select it at install, rather than OS boot - I've select it and will retry the install
21:44 Cprossu_Laptop yeah
21:44 Cprossu_Laptop glad you got to it
21:44 Phu is the stream working again or is it still down like Sir Dotty Circle suggests?
21:44 Cprossu_Laptop I'm just glad I remembered it existed.
21:45 Cprossu_Laptop no we have issues
21:45 Cprossu_Laptop and it's down
21:45 Phu roger.
21:45 muffin__ phew - i thought it was just me
21:45 Cprossu_Laptop it's up!
21:45 Phu and then it was up
21:45 Cprossu_Laptop we're back up
21:45 Phu and then it was rainbowy
21:45 Cprossu_Laptop llllllllool
21:45 Ponko92 OH NOOOOOO
21:45 Phu NTSC colour bars a la nosync.
21:45 Cprossu_Laptop what's barring tggmc?
21:45 Cprossu_Laptop haahahahh
21:45 Ponko92 Beetleguese
21:45 injektion Do you think Apple limited the hard drive size a 2007 Mac Pro can handle
21:46 Cprossu_Laptop what in the world happened?
21:46 Ponko92 great impression of Richard Keaton from Beetleguese
21:46 Cprossu_Laptop yay interference!
21:46 Cprossu_Laptop lol
21:46 Ponko92 hahaha lol
21:46 Cprossu_Laptop so did the phillips boot?
21:46 Fulsy LMAO
21:47 Phu good evening Chris. Good mood? ;)
21:47 Ponko92 all i can i think of is "Nice FU*KING model"
21:47 Fulsy YES
21:47 tonsofpcs hey, it's up!  and now ustream decides it needs to show me a commercial....
21:47 Cprossu_Laptop you need to do a better 1Kgz beep with the bars though
21:47 Ponko92 lol
21:47 muffin__ adblock, bro
21:47 injektion Who should I avoid when it comes to hard drives other than Samsung and possibly Hitatchi
21:47 Phu and hey Steve too.
21:47 tonsofpcs Cprossu_Laptop: "dooooooooooooooooooooooooooo"
21:47 Cprossu_Laptop you need to do a better 1Kgz beep with the bars though <- tggmc
21:48 Cprossu_Laptop no you need to do it with your voice!
21:48 tonsofpcs heh
21:48 Cprossu_Laptop so why did we go down, tggmc?
21:49 Ponko92 its grinding on my will to live
21:49 Cprossu_Laptop because its a DELL, DUDE
21:49 dbshortwave Iinjektion. western digital is one to stay clear of
21:49 tonsofpcs yea, captain, you can grab one of those audio store and playback sets from ratshack that folks use to hijack 'easy buttons' from staples, rig it to loop play, and just record 'doooooooooooooooooooooom' (or something)
21:49 Cprossu_Laptop that's why it took a shit
21:49 Ponko92 lol waynes worldish reference
21:49 Phu ok.. intsalling core image.
21:49 Fulsy thunderstorm where I live
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21:50 tonsofpcs oo, /me wants that dolly
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21:50 Cprossu_Laptop so you guys got kidwell's hub up there right?
21:57 tonsofpcs i sees a scope
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21:58 Phu ok.. first stage done... lets see if it first-boots
21:59 Phu nope!
21:59 Cprossu_Laptop =(
21:59 Cprossu_Laptop 7b?
21:59 Phu check
21:59 Cprossu_Laptop hmmm
22:01 Cprossu_Laptop what size hdd are you using again?
22:03 Cprossu_Laptop wow
22:04 Cprossu_Laptop Phu
22:04 Cprossu_Laptop # During the first reboot, remove the Libretto hard disk and connect it to the second computer again
22:04 Cprossu_Laptop # Delete ntldr and ntdetect.com
22:04 Cprossu_Laptop # Copy (from the system disk of the second computer), ntldr and ntdetect.com to the root of the Libretto hard disk
22:04 Cprossu_Laptop # Edit boot.ini in the Libretto hard disk using notepad, and adjust to match:
22:04 Cprossu_Laptop ^ did you do that?!
22:04 Phu 30GB HD
22:04 Cprossu_Laptop [boot loader]
22:04 Cprossu_Laptop timeout=30
22:04 Cprossu_Laptop default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS
22:04 Cprossu_Laptop [operating systems]
22:04 Cprossu_Laptop multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Fundamentals Setup" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
22:04 Cprossu_Laptop multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Fundamentals for Legacy PC" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
22:04 Phu and yes, I did that. If you don't replace NTDLR and NTDETECT.COM it boots back into the setup.
22:04 Cprossu_Laptop k
22:05 Cprossu_Laptop so does it get to the second part of setup?
22:05 Cprossu_Laptop with the GUI?
22:05 Phu it goes all the way through the setup, formats, installs core image, does PNP detect. Then it does the first reboot, I swap the files around, put it back in, try to boot it...
22:05 * tonsofpcs wonders what they're doing for transmission line
22:06 Phu then it does the text-mode progress bar, a blank screen for 4 seconds, then STOP.
22:06 Cprossu_Laptop hmmmm
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22:06 Cprossu_Laptop does LP work different than a normal XP setup?
22:06 Phu it does with this method (CD-less).
22:07 Phu the setup runs largely the same, but the target partition is wiped, reformatted and overwritten without option
22:07 Cprossu_Laptop I mean where it normally goes blue dos screen, install base files, reboot
22:07 Phu no, you don't get that step.
22:07 Cprossu_Laptop then comes up with the gui
22:07 Ponko92 i here chat in MMC
22:07 Cprossu_Laptop k
22:07 Phu it sort of boots like a live cd.
22:07 Ponko92 MC*
22:08 * tonsofpcs is working another angle for switcher(s)
22:09 Phu I couldn't find any reference to a HDD controller driver btw.
22:10 Seroster Would you concider black plastic an insulator at 250volts?
22:10 Sgt_Lemming depends on the thickness of the plastic.
22:10 Seroster Thin
22:11 tonsofpcs Seroster: depends on thickness, type, etc.
22:11 tonsofpcs most cheap hookup wire is 'rated' to 300V...
22:11 Seroster Thin probably cheap
22:11 tonsofpcs i wouldn't actually use it for such with any sort of load....
22:11 Seroster It is a plastic box, about a millimeter or so of plastic
22:12 Cprossu_Laptop http://www.comphell.cz/?p=10#more-10
22:12 Cprossu_Laptop Phu ^
22:12 Phu Seroster: 1mm of plastic should insulate you for around 10A or so.
22:12 Cprossu_Laptop this instruction seems different
22:12 tonsofpcs I'm guessing $400 per input for SDI capabilities is still not a viable option.
22:12 tonsofpcs Seroster: you should be using a grounded case in most cases.....
22:12 Seroster Phu, I thought it was the volts that were important here?
22:12 tonsofpcs Seroster: not really, no.
22:13 Phu cprossu: yeah.. thats the guide i've been following.
22:13 Seroster tonsofpcs, Then I'll just ground the plastic xD
22:13 tonsofpcs Seroster: it's the person who we don't want to short the lines to that's important here
22:13 Phu Seroster: to a point. amperage counts too.
22:13 Phu R = V/I, so more plastic = greater resistance = better handling of high voltage and/or current.
22:14 Cprossu_Laptop are you trying to install sp3 or sp2, Phu?
22:14 Phu the ISO I have is SP3
22:14 Seroster realised I need a bigger box for my psu, I havent got any 1ft by 1ft by 1ft metal boxes. Plastic should work.  Just as with the metal box no live wires will touch the case, but I wanted to be sure this is as idiot proof as possible.
22:15 Cprossu_Laptop get an SP1 or SP2 image and try again
22:15 Phu oh?
22:15 tonsofpcs a grounded metal shell protects not only the user but the RF environment (both directions) too.
22:15 Seroster I don't give a rat's ass about the RF enviroment =P
22:15 Cprossu_Laptop I'm starting to grasp at straws here trying to figure this one out
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22:16 Phu cprossu: your efforts are greatly appreciated :)
22:17 tonsofpcs Cprossu_Laptop: oo! try that straw over there!  (is there a boot sector modification lock in the bios?)
22:18 Seroster tonsofpcs, the device I am making is something to provide a few ballast increments, 10w, 25w, 50w, 100w, 150w, 250w, 500w, 1000w, 2500w and unlimited.  Since It will be running mains, wich is already the crappiest garbage you can find (I got 245 volts. Not the supposed 230) and I don't even want to think about the sinus wave.
22:19 Phu tonsofpcs: its a toshiba BIOS from the late 90s... I doubt it.
22:19 Cprossu_Laptop hey tggmc how goes it? making any progress?
22:19 Cprossu_Laptop fun fun
22:19 tonsofpcs Phu: hey, i just pushed the straw out there to be grasped at ;)
22:19 Phu incoming!!!
22:19 Cprossu_Laptop you've got kidwells hub right? tggmc ?
22:20 Cprossu_Laptop sweet!
22:22 Cprossu_Laptop hrmm
22:22 Phu STOP THE PRESSES
22:22 Phu first boot agent is starting :)
22:22 * tonsofpcs really needs to stop leaving the external mini speaker for the eeepc at work
22:22 Cprossu_Laptop Phu: what happened?
22:22 Phu ROFL
22:22 injektion holy shit
22:22 Cprossu_Laptop did we lose the camera, tggmc?
22:22 Fulsy LMAO
22:22 Phu signal missing!
22:22 tonsofpcs "CPST signal missing or has no sync"
22:23 tonsofpcs is that from the capture card?
22:23 Cprossu_Laptop no
22:23 Fulsy AKA. "HOLY SHIT"
22:23 Phu cprossu: I did the opposite... used F5 and selected ACPI PC :)
22:23 Cprossu_Laptop it's from the video switcher
22:23 tonsofpcs weird
22:23 Cprossu_Laptop tggmc camera dead
22:23 Cprossu_Laptop or in need of help
22:23 Ponko92 CPST SIGNAL MISSING OR HAS NO SYNC
22:23 Cprossu_Laptop during the tesla coil
22:23 Cprossu_Laptop shot it died
22:24 Fulsy CPST SIGNAL MISSING, or in layman's terms, "HOLY SHIT"
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22:24 injektion [18:22]  <injektion> holy shit
22:24 Phu ok.. apparently I now need to wait around 5 hours while FBA does "stuff"
22:24 tonsofpcs the mic appears to be working down there....
22:25 Seroster .c -30f to c
22:25 BotSteve -34.4444444 degrees Celsius
22:25 Seroster Fair enuff
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22:25 Ponko92 wow
22:25 tonsofpcs Seroster: where the heck are you getting 245v?  open/wild leg delta?
22:26 * Ponko92 has 3 PAC 10 Sides after him
22:26 Seroster tonsofpcs, hot wire to ground
22:27 tonsofpcs hot to ground? not to neutral or to another leg?
22:27 tonsofpcs interesting...
22:27 Seroster To ground.
22:28 Seroster From live to radiator, from live to ground, from live to neutral, from live to sink...
22:28 tonsofpcs oh, you're in europe, you don't have all the oddball services that we have here :)
22:28 Seroster Indeed
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22:29 injektion 120VAC 60Hz FTL
22:29 Seroster I've got 500 phase-phase in my oven =P
22:29 Seroster I like the 60hz part
22:29 tonsofpcs how much voltage is between your radiator and your sink? :-p
22:29 Seroster tonsofpcs, I don't have probes that long. A volt or two tops
22:29 injektion 120VAC is so inefficient
22:29 LeadHead Not really
22:29 tonsofpcs we regularly get > 500 phase to phase at the Tx site....
22:29 Seroster Indeed, you need twice the thickness of cable for the same watts
22:30 LeadHead Well, it's ineffecient in terms of wiring demands
22:30 LeadHead But it's not like we send 120vAC over hundreds of miles
22:30 tonsofpcs it's not like 120 is dist.... yea, what LeadHead said.
22:30 LeadHead I've got 14kv in the lines just outside my house
22:30 Seroster ...So?
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22:31 Seroster You know, there is wiring inside your home too.
22:31 LeadHead No shit?
22:31 tonsofpcs the wiring inside my home is all ... *checks panel*
22:31 LeadHead Did I not just say it's ineffecient in terms of wiring demands
22:31 Seroster So... Wtf?
22:32 LeadHead But it's not a terribly huge deal since it's only within homes, and not out on the lines
22:32 tonsofpcs looks like single phase off a delta center-tapped...  I don't feel like tearing it apart
22:32 LeadHead Tonsofpcs, where do you live?
22:32 tonsofpcs (I rent)
22:32 tonsofpcs LeadHead: just outside of endicott, ny
22:32 Seroster LeadHead, I have no numbers on how much wire is run in your average office building, but I asure you it's quite a lot.
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22:33 LeadHead If it's in the US, it's almost guarenteed to be high-leg delta, tonsofpcs
22:33 injektion 10 miles perhaps?
22:33 tonsofpcs why would an office building run '120' around?
22:33 Seroster If you could get away with half the wire gauge in all american houses you've got a bigass pile of copper. Sell it to the chineese.
22:33 LeadHead Most larger buildings I've seen have 208/230 or 480v 3 phase power feeds
22:33 LeadHead and than will have a transformer for each floor/section of the building
22:34 tonsofpcs also, 277v (leg to neutral off 480v) is quite common for lighting
22:34 injektion I remember looking at Unix based workstations 10 years ago and most of them required 220V
22:34 injektion I'm like .......
22:34 injektion Then I realized it was saner to do it that way
22:35 Seroster I would happily have 400volts phase-ground at 600hz.
22:35 tonsofpcs LeadHead: should I go outside and look at the distribution gear that's about 4' from me (other side of the wall)
22:35 LeadHead What's really cool is 3000+ Volt electric motors
22:35 tonsofpcs Seroster: I would hate that.
22:35 Seroster And the ammount of zeros wasnt a typo.
22:35 tonsofpcs all of my viewers would hate that.
22:36 injektion I support the US moving away from 120VAC because hell most devices anyway have switching power supplies
22:36 LeadHead 600Hz would blow.
22:37 Seroster injektion, probem is the inertia of "Im used to this n my toaster is 120, I dun wanna new one!"
22:37 tonsofpcs injektion: the problem is that the non-switching power supplies all have all sorts of nasty stuff in them and would have to be replaced, we'd basically have to switch everyone to a different connector, .....
22:37 LeadHead We already have a 230v NEMA plug
22:37 LeadHead tonospcs
22:37 injektion ^
22:37 tonsofpcs Seroster: mind you, our electrical distribution supports 208 - 240 and you can just put NEMA6 plugs in homes on existing services.
22:38 LeadHead yup
22:38 Seroster Why would 600hz blow?
22:38 tonsofpcs Seroster: RF.
22:38 LeadHead NEMA 6-15
22:38 tonsofpcs interference
22:38 LeadHead RF, and that the fundamental audio frequency would be 1.2KHz
22:38 Seroster But it would make some kickass transformers
22:38 tonsofpcs LeadHead: eh, I'd support 6-20s.
22:38 tonsofpcs but yea, I suppose most homeowners are idiots and 6-15s are safer (just like 5-15s in common usage)
22:38 LeadHead Well with 230v and 20 amps
22:39 LeadHead Is it necessary to be able to provide almost 5kw of power through a normal socket?
22:39 tonsofpcs LeadHead: I know some hams who would say yes :-p
22:39 Seroster 4.6kw =P
22:39 LeadHead Hence, almost.
22:39 Seroster Indeed ^^
22:39 LeadHead I know some woman would love to have bigger hair dryers
22:39 LeadHead as well
22:39 Seroster But still, who says you have to use a 20amp breaker?
22:40 Seroster My entire home runs on 230 10-16 amps
22:40 LeadHead Because when someone does plug in a device that could use 20 amps
22:40 LeadHead The breaker will keep tripping
22:40 LeadHead Do they have a universal Nema 6-15/20?
22:41 Seroster Well, what if someone wants to run something that coud use 21amps?! You better install a 35 amp breaker just in case.
22:41 tonsofpcs LeadHead: not sure.  (background for others: NEMA5-20Rs support 5-15Ps and 5-20Ps)
22:41 LeadHead http://images-en.busytrade.com/25033300/NEMA-6-20-Socket.jpg looks like 6-20/6-15 hybrids exist
22:41 tonsofpcs (R=receptacle, P=plug, 5=120, 6=208-240, -20 = 20A)
22:41 tonsofpcs LeadHead: well, are they standard?
22:41 LeadHead I've never seen one
22:41 injektion -| _ -
22:41 LeadHead then again, I've never actually seen a Nema 6-20 either
22:42 tonsofpcs I only have 6-30s at work, I think....
22:42 LeadHead only 6-15s
22:42 Seroster If you are just concerned the breaker will trip because you want more power than you got you might aswell put a nail in your breaker box
22:42 LeadHead I'm saying, if you're going to use outlets that can handle 20 amps of current, just throw in a damn 20 amp breaker too
22:42 tonsofpcs actually, we might have 6-20s in the old 'welding shop' room
22:42 tonsofpcs i should check... on monday
22:43 Seroster Leadhead, you want to be sure the breaker will trip before the outlet melts
22:43 tonsofpcs they might be L6-20s though...
22:43 tonsofpcs Seroster: you want to be sure the breaker will trip before the wires feeding the outlet catch on fire (much more likely than the outlet melting)
22:44 LeadHead What's also interesting is breaker trip curves
22:44 Seroster Indeed
22:44 Ponko92 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XluKcRSlXAw love it lol
22:44 LeadHead Many breakers will deliver 1.5x their rated current for upto 2 minutes or more
22:44 LeadHead even 2x as much current.
22:45 * tonsofpcs expects that steve is staring at a camera that became a path to ground for a tesla coil wondering WTF happened
22:45 LeadHead 4x the rated current will usually trip in <4 seconds
22:45 LeadHead err <5 seconds
22:45 tonsofpcs right, that's why we have 'fast blow' fuses in a lot of gear.
22:45 LeadHead Instant trip is around 7-8x rated current
22:45 tonsofpcs 'instant' trip of a breaker isn't even 'instant'
22:46 LeadHead Usually 1 AC cycle
22:46 LeadHead better breakers can do it in half a cycle
22:46 tonsofpcs right, but 'instant' trip of a fuse is instant.
22:46 LeadHead yeah
22:46 Seroster I tested my 16amp 240, it tripped within 3 seconds of a 25 amp load.
22:46 tonsofpcs like, fuses don't take time to blow.  breakers have physical movement that takes time.
22:46 LeadHead Not all breakers are the same of course
22:46 LeadHead yup
22:47 LeadHead 1 AC cycle at 160 amps can certainly FSU.
22:47 tonsofpcs i don't think i've ever seen that term written like that before ;)
22:48 Seroster But it is a pretty easily decoded acronym =P
22:48 tonsofpcs Seroster: yes, quite.
22:48 tonsofpcs you do know why we have 110~120V AC in the US, right?
22:48 LeadHead Edisons a bastard
22:48 LeadHead That's why
22:49 tonsofpcs no, edison liked cooking bastards :)
22:49 Seroster Err, I thought Edison prefered DC? =P
22:49 LeadHead He did
22:49 tonsofpcs Seroster: he did.
22:49 Cprossu no we'd have AC if edison wasn't a bastard too
22:49 LeadHead But he made US officials at the time
22:49 LeadHead "afraid"
22:49 LeadHead of voltages more than 120 volts
22:49 Seroster ^^
22:49 Cprossu well edison DC was still 100volts
22:49 Cprossu right?
22:49 tonsofpcs Seroster: he tried getting everyone to hate on AC by showing that it could fry animals.  The US dept. of corrections of course immediately ordered some AC to fry people.
22:50 LeadHead Yes
22:50 tonsofpcs not to be outdone, he started supplying AC....
22:50 Cprossu what's funny is westinghouse wouldn't provide a generator for the first electrocution
22:50 Cprossu and they finally sourced one
22:50 Cprossu and it broke down!
22:50 Seroster Pretty awesome story
22:50 LeadHead Westinghouse and Tesla
22:50 LeadHead were very pissed
22:51 Seroster .w history of electricity
22:51 BotSteve "The history of electromagnetism (including its use) dates back over several thousand years." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_electricity
22:51 tonsofpcs NYC's power system is still ConEd -- Consolidated Edison
22:51 LeadHead ConEd does steam power too
22:51 Phu there's lots of something-edison companies in the US I find.
22:51 tonsofpcs Phu: there's a lot more (or were) something-Bell companies
22:51 tonsofpcs RBOCs :)
22:52 Phu yes. imaginations running riot in the US naming circles again :P
22:52 Phu I'll lay money it was americans that named the insect known as the "fly"
22:52 LeadHead Don't forget about Edison's biggest company
22:52 tonsofpcs well, most of the Bells were derivitives of Bell's companies.  Most of the Edisons were derivitives of Edison-owned companies
22:52 tonsofpcs LeadHead: which one?
22:52 tonsofpcs he owned a lot (and sold a lot) (and bugged folks at a lot)
22:52 LeadHead Actually, I don't know if it was his biggest
22:52 Cprossu and many oil companies were formed when standard oil got broken up too
22:52 LeadHead but certainly his most well known
22:53 LeadHead General Electric
22:53 Phu UK power companies are just random
22:53 Phu and some of them not even british
22:53 tonsofpcs erm...
22:53 Phu our power is supplied by a french company.
22:53 tonsofpcs Phu: mine too!
22:53 Cprossu General Electric UK is not to be confused with General Electric US
22:53 Phu well.. I say "supplied"...
22:53 tonsofpcs well, a french company that's a subsidiary of a spanish company (or is it the other way around?)
22:54 tonsofpcs LeadHead: GE was RCA, I thought...
22:54 LeadHead We have National Grid
22:54 tonsofpcs like, his competitor
22:54 LeadHead Owned by a UK Company
22:54 Cprossu GE in UK is something totally different
22:54 Phu in actual fact, its generated by Southern Electric. Who in turn charge a "supply" fee to EDF Energy (france) for the SE customers who pay via EDF, then EDF charges us.
22:54 LeadHead GE was formed by Edison
22:54 LeadHead GE Founded RCA
22:54 Cprossu hey liz
22:55 tonsofpcs camera is back!
22:55 Cprossu where did steve go tggmc
22:55 LeadHead Wikipedia says RCA spun off in 1930
22:55 tggmc steve's currently in high voltage
22:55 Phu I'll lay money steve did an IT-Crowd manoeuvre on the camera
22:55 Cprossu I suppose he figured out what happened to the camera right?
22:55 tonsofpcs Phu: you mean 'a phonzie' ?
22:55 tonsofpcs Fonzie eveen?
22:56 Phu <phone rintgts> "IT. Have you tried turning it off an on again?"
22:56 LeadHead Only enough, GE was one of the first companies to start making AC desk fans
22:56 tonsofpcs I know that edison worked at GE, I thought that it was started by a competitor though
22:56 Cprossu LeadHead: only because of universal motors though!
22:56 LeadHead actually!
22:56 tonsofpcs (like, I have a friend who works at GE that has sat at edison's desk in 12345)
22:56 Phu Cprossu: WinFLP FBA still going :)
22:56 LeadHead 1894 GE Pancake was an induction motor!
22:56 tonsofpcs .tfw 12345
22:56 BotSteve 68�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Schenectady, NY!  'I approve of this message!'
22:57 Cprossu Phu: you have another 6 hours
22:57 Cprossu xD
22:57 Phu heheh
22:57 tonsofpcs hmm, apparently he was a founder...
22:57 Cprossu .tfw 85020
22:57 BotSteve 102�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'Don't own a grill? Just use the driveway.'
22:57 tonsofpcs maybe he got pissed later and left?  (he did that a lot....)
22:57 Phu there's a window with a progress bar. Unfortunately it keeps getting to 100% and restarting - it doesn't have a progress bars progress bar.
22:57 Fulsy .tfw 06483
22:57 BotSteve 70�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE AND THUNDERING IN Seymour, CT!  'I can't  believe it's not porn!'
22:57 LeadHead http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UYQHMzI5Hi8/TWGyQWhJX_I/AAAAAAAAADo/QIydQTZ4BIo/s1600/CIMG4232.JPG
22:57 tonsofpcs Cprossu: I was checking the weather at edison's desk.
22:57 Phu .tfwc Portsmouth, UK
22:57 BotSteve 12�C?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT AND WET IN Portsmouth, Portsmouth, !  'Listen, weather. We need to have a talk.'
22:57 Cprossu yes I know tonsofpcs
22:57 Phu ROFL. Wet is a understatement.
22:58 Phu its been torrential all day today.
22:58 LeadHead I don't know why the Pancakes were induction, when GE was still making universal motors at the same time too
22:58 LeadHead iirc
22:58 tonsofpcs sorry LeadHead, been too caught up in IBM history
22:59 tonsofpcs it comes with the territory (literally, I live like 6 blocks from the old CTR/IBM HQ)
23:00 Phu oddly enough, I used to live within a mile of an IBM building
23:00 LeadHead Cprossu, want to know the epitomy of early AC current geekery?
23:00 Phu until they gave up the building around 10 years ago.
23:00 LeadHead It'd probably have to be the original Tesla Desk Fans
23:01 Phu they used to organize the local Nov 5th fireworks display. For which reason, around Nov 5th each year you can still hear people referring to "going to the IBM".
23:02 tonsofpcs Phu: the building I work in was owned by IBM before we acquired it.
23:02 tonsofpcs it was built as an elementary school.
23:02 tonsofpcs legend is that it was storage for documents for ONE legal case for IbM
23:02 Phu IBM vs Compaq, "Was the BIOS a ripoff" ?
23:02 Phu ;)
23:02 tonsofpcs Phu: erm, when did that case end?
23:03 Phu depends who you ask I think.
23:03 tonsofpcs well, when was it settled (legally)?
23:03 Phu I have no idea.I would hope way back in the 80s.
23:04 Fulsy I hear a boden
23:04 tonsofpcs cus i know when we moved in and i know when we started designing our move in and there's quite a bit of time in between... I would expect that they were 'selling' the building well before vacating it if it indeed was such, required to keep documents for X years...
23:04 injektion I heard a shutup cory
23:04 Cprossu clear+ throw
23:06 * tonsofpcs heard "I need a sonic screwdriver"
23:07 injektion ^
23:07 LeadHead Cprossu: http://www.petpeoplesplace.com/petstore/pet-image-large/westinghouse-tesla-fan_290569628747.jpg
23:07 LeadHead That is a Tesla
23:07 Fulsy "First, assume a spherical Boden."
23:07 Fulsy I lol'd
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23:08 LeadHead If you ever see a Tesla at an estate sale or anywhere for cheap
23:08 LeadHead buy it.
23:08 LeadHead Even if it's a 400Hz version
23:08 tonsofpcs especially if it's a guy named tesla
23:09 LeadHead Well, I'm talking Original Tesla Desk Fans
23:09 tonsofpcs :)
23:09 LeadHead People pay big bucks
23:09 Fulsy There's a vid on youtube of a fan with a tesla motor
23:09 LeadHead for anything with the Tesla name on it
23:09 * tonsofpcs wants a roadster
23:09 LeadHead Well even before them
23:09 Fulsy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugrxcvJJyOM
23:09 Fulsy if someone didn't post it already
23:10 tonsofpcs i know, i just want a roadster :)
23:10 LeadHead That's not just a fan with a Tesla motor
23:10 LeadHead That is a Tesla fan
23:11 LeadHead Westinghouse made them for/with Tesla
23:13 tonsofpcs westinghouse mmakes awesome lamps
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23:16 tonsofpcs interesting cage
23:16 tonsofpcs what's that 'wire' running horizontally squiggly over?
23:17 injektion probably a ground or something for the camera
23:18 tonsofpcs oh, i see, it is in the foreground
23:18 tonsofpcs i thought it went inbetween the rafters, this LCD has crappy blacks :-p
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23:27 Phu Cprossu: it rebooted to a press Ctrl+alt+del screen :)
23:27 tonsofpcs is there a lockout/tagout system in the HV lab?
23:28 tonsofpcs 'to login', i hope?
23:28 Phu tonsofpcs: there will be a lockout system
23:28 Phu when they connect the switches the HV gear won't operate if any cage gates are open or the HV lab door is open.
23:29 tonsofpcs Phu: those are interlocks.  'lockout' is when someone goes inside, they put a keyed lock (of which they carry the only key) in the way that either keeps an interlock open or prevents the switch from depressing
23:30 Phu I don't think at has that kind of lockout.
23:30 tonsofpcs just wondering
23:30 tonsofpcs interlocks are generally safe enough, especially with proper procedures
23:31 Cprossu what happened to the camera?
23:31 tonsofpcs cool, steve
23:31 Cprossu out of curiosity
23:31 * tonsofpcs really needs amped speakers
23:31 Cprossu ahhhh ok
23:31 Cprossu nice
23:31 tonsofpcs oo, i know, brb.
23:32 LeadHead What, it got hit?
23:32 Cprossu no
23:32 Cprossu it didn't
23:32 Cprossu and what's new with jupiter?
23:32 Cprossu hrmmmmm
23:32 LeadHead You guys got the software installed?
23:33 Cprossu let me install on my end and look
23:33 Cprossu yeah sort of
23:33 Cprossu I'll be there's something obvious
23:33 Cprossu you installed the server right?
23:34 Cprossu I want you to try something
23:34 Cprossu get the hub out, start the bootp server
23:34 Cprossu set it to a 10bt nic
23:34 Cprossu and then look at our console output
23:34 LeadHead bootp server?
23:35 Cprossu the frame bootp's off the computer
23:35 LeadHead oh
23:35 LeadHead you mean the jupiter server
23:35 tonsofpcs Cprossu: really? ugh....
23:36 Cprossu jupiter server and jupiter network suite are 2 pieces of software k?
23:36 tonsofpcs yay, i has audible audio now
23:36 Cprossu the Frame, AVP 3500
23:36 LeadHead I know that
23:36 Cprossu bootP's off the PC running Jupiter Server
23:36 LeadHead what the hell is bootP
23:36 Cprossu network booting
23:36 Cprossu like thin clients
23:36 tonsofpcs does the frame then bootp the consoole?
23:37 tonsofpcs or is the console 100% dumb?
23:37 Cprossu_Laptop that's my thinking
23:37 tonsofpcs (idk what connectors i have, i haven't seen it, didn't see the saturn manual)
23:37 Cprossu_Laptop it can't be 100% dumb
23:37 tonsofpcs (it looked like it was just serial interfacing)
23:37 Cprossu_Laptop as it still runs 10b2
23:37 tonsofpcs oh, it does?
23:37 LeadHead the surface connects to the frame
23:37 LeadHead over thinnet?
23:37 Cprossu_Laptop fucking cool
23:38 Cprossu_Laptop yes, LeadHead
23:38 LeadHead That is very odd
23:38 LeadHead I would have expected some proprietary thing
23:38 tonsofpcs eh, not entirely
23:38 LeadHead although
23:38 tonsofpcs my MC switcher connects over ethernet.
23:38 Cprossu_Laptop is mvp3500 in there?
23:38 Cprossu_Laptop mcc?
23:38 LeadHead I suppose it makes sense if all your coax junk is in a completely different room/area
23:38 LeadHead can have the frame remote
23:38 Cprossu_Laptop let me look
23:38 Cprossu_Laptop we are so close
23:39 Cprossu_Laptop what about 4000?
23:39 tonsofpcs can you 'add' it somehow?
23:39 Cprossu_Laptop I will
23:39 tonsofpcs (i have no clue what you're looking at... did you find the saturn manual online somewhere that I can pull it down and read through?)
23:39 tonsofpcs (or jupiter software manual?)
23:41 Cprossu do you still have a working internet connection?
23:41 Cprossu on the jupiter box?
23:42 tggmc yes
23:43 tonsofpcs tggmc: did it let you choose either NIC this time?
23:44 tggmc doesn't matter I have a connection to it as teh bootp sofware sees it
23:44 tonsofpcs well, i know on install last time it had you choose a nic, it might lock to that and maybe only send config out that way (or only check that way or install additional drivers that way or ...) even if bootp works on either....
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23:50 exor674 that does not look happy
23:50 Bat-Mobile ?
23:50 Bat-Mobile .log
23:50 tonsofpcs lol
23:50 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
23:51 Ponko92 blimey that hurt my ears
23:51 NeWtoz luckily the speakers on this laptop suck
23:51 Cprossu ok tggmc
23:52 tonsofpcs ah, dinner, the most important meal of the evening (brb, getting PB&J sammich)
23:53 tggmc LOUD
23:53 Cprossu thanks
23:53 * Ponko92 is braced
23:54 Cprossu what am I looking at tggmc ?
23:54 Cprossu sweet
23:54 Cprossu cool
23:55 Phu does that mean the coils are now tuned?
23:55 Cprossu we need to build buzzers in the clearcomms
23:56 Phu they do sound very tesla-like :)
23:56 Cprossu get your echolink on
23:57 Ponko92 idk but i just thought sega when he said that
23:57 NeWtoz echolink eh?
23:57 * Ponko92 thinks why
23:57 Ponko92 ah yes the SEGA Saturn
23:57 Ponko92 that sucked lol
23:57 * Phu has one
23:57 LeadHead Gonna need to speak up, bro.
23:57 LeadHead Can hardly hear ya
23:58 LeadHead I can barely hear you steve.
23:58 injektion Turn up Boden sligtly
23:59 LeadHead Boden is not audible at all
23:59 Cprossu get your echolink on
23:59 Cprossu steve

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