Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-06-18

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00:00 Ender_ 1.1 bodens love it
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00:00 tggmc not connecting to you
00:01 Cprossu trying connect again
00:01 Cprossu timed out
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00:02 Cprossu tggmc here's the deal I think
00:03 Cprossu I think we have to find the number that goes with it
00:03 Cprossu because one is less specific
00:03 speedrunnerG55 Hi :)
00:03 Cprossu want to try cp-300/s
00:03 Cprossu ?
00:03 Cprossu ok
00:03 Cprossu and this is what it says to do right?
00:04 tonsofpcs is there a 'saturn' driver/option 'disk' that you need to dowwnload?
00:05 Cprossu they aren't in order
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00:05 Cprossu so perhaps we are missing something
00:05 Cprossu yeah
00:05 Cprossu WAIT
00:05 Cprossu is the firewall cockblocking us?
00:05 tonsofpcs windows firewall?
00:05 Cprossu kill the firewall
00:05 tonsofpcs disable windows firewall entirely.
00:06 Cprossu yeah I got distracted though
00:06 tonsofpcs also, enable windows messenger service.
00:06 injektion loo
00:06 LeadHead services.msc
00:06 tonsofpcs it was integral in earlier versions of windows, XP SP2 disabled it.
00:06 injektion No it's not tonsofpcs
00:06 Cprossu yeah we need to kill it
00:06 LeadHead **services.msc in the run box
00:06 LeadHead if you want to enable it
00:07 LeadHead I know for a fact windows 2000 had it enabled by default
00:07 injektion Do NOT enable the messenger service tggmc
00:07 LeadHead but it was so vulnerable to attacks
00:07 LeadHead they disabled it
00:07 tonsofpcs LeadHead: only if you didn't have a firewall
00:07 Cprossu interesting
00:07 tonsofpcs saturn = SMS5?00 ?
00:07 Cprossu well the surface is a mc
00:08 tonsofpcs i'm just digging through the grass stuff, trying to find what manuals/files are available
00:08 NeWtoz lol, the messenger system, I had fun with that in computer labs back in high school
00:08 NeWtoz and old old lan parties
00:08 tonsofpcs NeWtoz: I used to use it to ask people to bring me printouts from across the room :-p
00:09 tonsofpcs I guess SMS is a different thing than jupiter
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00:09 Cprossu when you setup the jupiter server tggmc did you say "no" if you had a saturn?
00:10 LemLap mmmm, sneaky lemlap
00:10 Cprossu no
00:10 LemLap sitting on irc at work
00:10 Cprossu there was a weird menu
00:10 Cprossu it said "Say no if you HAVE a saturn"
00:10 LemLap is now known as LemLapple
00:11 LemLapple is now known as LemLap
00:11 tonsofpcs hey, steve, odd question.... the other MC surface you have, what is it?
00:11 tggmc coil firing
00:12 Cprossu nice
00:12 Cprossu coil firing
00:12 Cprossu getting some real aparks
00:12 tonsofpcs awesome
00:13 tonsofpcs i wonder if it would be better or worse with balanced lines from the camera up....
00:13 tonsofpcs well, coax is shielded... it might not help with the RF stuff from the teslas
00:14 tonsofpcs well, make a loop through a toroid if you can
00:14 * tonsofpcs wonders if he has spare toroids that he can send....
00:14 tonsofpcs I might have some left in the kit that was dropped (some of them shattered, but those were the ones for the 1-5/8" line)
00:14 tonsofpcs I have to visit that site on tuesday, I think, so I'll check them
00:15 Cprossu mind if I try even though it's pointless?
00:15 tonsofpcs anyway, steve - the other two switchers (the SDI ones), what are they?
00:15 Cprossu mind if I try even though it's pointless? @ tggmc
00:15 tonsofpcs was there only one SDI switcher or is there another too?
00:16 tonsofpcs can't hear you over the coil stuff, can you type the model 'name' ?
00:16 tonsofpcs (not number, just like 'saturn')
00:17 Cprossu MCC 3500 and AVP 3500
00:17 Cprossu I think is at least what we have
00:17 tonsofpcs tggmc: i'm just wondering the name (not model #) of the non-saturn type
00:17 tggmc dvp 3500
00:17 tonsofpcs gvg tektronix collab? interesting *searches*
00:17 Cprossu and the SDI one is a M-2100 GVG
00:18 tonsofpcs cus I see soome notes that certain switchers can control the jupiter frame over 422
00:18 tonsofpcs yea
00:18 tonsofpcs that's the thought
00:18 Cprossu we can't control it though
00:18 Cprossu without firmware
00:18 Cprossu it currently doesn't have any
00:19 tonsofpcs silly q: does the other saturn system boot?
00:19 Cprossu get rid of it
00:19 Cprossu see what happens
00:19 Cprossu we can always recompile later
00:19 tonsofpcs you got the SDI saturn working, right?
00:20 tonsofpcs can you just switch the cards from this one into the other one, make the 'SDI' one be composite?
00:20 tonsofpcs oh
00:20 tonsofpcs that would be too easy :-p
00:21 Cprossu my guess
00:22 tonsofpcs steve - got a TBC (or a tape deck with a TBC) [yes, I said tape] that you can run the signal through?
00:22 Phu nice coils :)
00:22 tonsofpcs right, but it needs that too
00:22 tonsofpcs i'll look for toroids on tuesday
00:23 tonsofpcs we have some real nice ones provided by the fine folks at Nautel with transmitter purchase
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00:23 Cprossu restart
00:23 Cprossu remember I shut all the processes down
00:23 Cprossu i'll try one thing first
00:24 Cprossu gotta run that one more time
00:24 Cprossu we compiled it
00:24 Cprossu but didn't select it
00:25 tonsofpcs oo, nautel is selling the toroids direct now!
00:25 Cprossu kk
00:25 tonsofpcs http://store.nautel.com/search/?s=toroid&submitButton=Search
00:26 LemLap what was the libretto you guys were talking about earlier?
00:26 tonsofpcs you'd have to call them to find out ID and OD and such
00:26 Cprossu yeah it is
00:26 Cprossu better not mess with it
00:26 Cprossu yet
00:28 tonsofpcs I'd probably just get a 'torroid kit low power' to play with, order more if needed.  Then again, if you talk to the folks at Nautel about what you're doing, they might want to visit and give you some :) (not sure if you're in Gary's [1;5D[1;5D[1;5D[1;5D[1;5D[1;5D[1;5D[1;5Dor Jeff's territory)
00:32 Cprossu tggmc I found it
00:32 Cprossu I'm ready to make it active
00:32 Cprossu got nice sparks on the tc's
00:33 Cprossu *presses clearcomm button* rofl
00:35 tonsofpcs *call*
00:36 injektion Is that a florescent tube?
00:36 Cprossu hey steve, ready to see something happen possibly?
00:36 Cprossu nope he wants to watch sparks fly
00:37 Cprossu GAKKK
00:37 tonsofpcs is that the transformer room that i keep seeing in the back?
00:37 tonsofpcs transformer/rectifier/etc
00:38 Cprossu and or reactor/etc
00:38 Cprossu *cycles clearcom button at 5 presses per second*
00:39 tonsofpcs lol, reading the instructions for controlling jupiter from kayak -- the last one is "check it out"
00:39 Cprossu what?!
00:39 Cprossu lol
00:39 Cprossu if I were steve I'd be down there watching the sparks too probably xD
00:40 tonsofpcs i'm guessing that someone outside GVG figured it out and sent it to them
00:40 tonsofpcs (I've sent instructions on how I've done oddball things to manuf's before and they share them  if someone else wants to do teh same oddball thing)
00:42 Cprossu tonsofpcs: one of the buttons on this control panel
00:42 Cprossu is "Post Mortem"
00:42 tonsofpcs heh
00:42 tonsofpcs gives you a log from last time it shut off?
00:43 Cprossu lol in this case no
00:43 tonsofpcs what's it do?
00:43 Cprossu I think it's to recover from a failed upload
00:43 tonsofpcs interesting
00:43 Cprossu well I am waiting for stever to get back
00:43 tonsofpcs you said you found it?
00:43 Cprossu before we make blinkenlights happen we hope
00:43 Cprossu long story not yet/sort of
00:44 Cprossu I think it got moved to a different menu in 6.2.1
00:44 tonsofpcs just lick the button so he sees blinkenlights when he gets back :D (ok, don't, probably want to make sure you don't let the smoke out)
00:44 tonsofpcs which version are you on?
00:44 Cprossu tggmc : steve would you do the honors?
00:44 Cprossu we are running 6.2.1 our docs are from who knows.
00:44 tonsofpcs k
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00:45 Cprossu wb. read above :D
00:45 Cprossu tggmc we ready?
00:45 Cprossu or did someone just come in for a second
00:46 tonsofpcs i didn't see/hear anyone...
00:46 Cprossu I heard a squeaky door open and shut
00:46 Cprossu it was probably liz
00:47 Phu Windows: I don't have a drive for this. Me: Yes you do. I just installed it. Windows: OH! THAT driver! *installs*
00:47 Cprossu yeah I know
00:47 Cprossu retarded
00:47 Phu Windows, whyfor doest thou suck so?
00:47 Cprossu fuck connection closed
00:47 tonsofpcs hi back!
00:47 Cprossu did you see the screen
00:47 Cprossu on the computer?
00:48 Cprossu I just lost connection to it
00:48 Cprossu will you do the honors?
00:49 Cprossu all right click activate!
00:49 Cprossu want to do the honors?
00:49 Cprossu this outa be interesting tggmc
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00:49 Cprossu yeah
00:49 Cprossu and I am activating
00:50 Cprossu ready to go!
00:50 Cprossu look
00:51 Cprossu yep
00:51 Cprossu WAIT
00:51 Cprossu WTF
00:51 Cprossu sep 18 1997?
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00:52 Cprossu no
00:52 Cprossu saveLoadModule() failure
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00:55 speedrunnerG55 Hey tonsofpcs
00:57 Cprossu This is what you need to do and you have to do it exactly or it won't work. Kidwell's hub should attach to the 10B2 network, the 10BT part of the hub should ONLY go to the PRO/1000MT.
00:57 Cprossu NOTHING ELSE
00:57 tonsofpcs hmm, according to this, if the 'file server' (what they call the system control machine, I guess?) is running when you power up the saturn system, it should find them and 'automatically download the saturn system'
00:57 Cprossu then put the internet line into the linksys card
00:57 Cprossu ignore that qould you
00:58 Cprossu tggmc
00:58 Cprossu This is what you need to do and you have to do it exactly or it won't work. Kidwell's hub should attach to the 10B2 network, the 10BT part of the hub should ONLY go to the PRO/1000MT.
00:58 Cprossu [17:57] <Cprossu> NOTHING ELSE
00:58 Cprossu then put the internet line into the linksys card
00:58 tonsofpcs what Cprossu said ^^^
00:58 Cprossu correct
00:58 Cprossu that's fine
00:59 * tonsofpcs thought that's how it was configured
00:59 tonsofpcs hi speedrunnerG55
00:59 Cprossu what did you bind
00:59 Cprossu the thing too?
00:59 Cprossu in jupiter setup?
00:59 Cprossu then just grab
00:59 Cprossu hang on
00:59 Cprossu it can't
00:59 Cprossu you have tgg network plugged in the hub
01:00 Cprossu right?
01:00 Cprossu unplug that
01:00 Cprossu put it in the winbond
01:00 Cprossu yeah I know
01:00 Cprossu this is the only way I can think of
01:00 Cprossu let me know when you are jacked in
01:00 Cprossu I exited
01:01 Cprossu starting back up
01:02 Cprossu hrmmm
01:03 Cprossu then we could have other issues
01:03 Cprossu goto start->run->cmd
01:03 Cprossu ipconfig /all
01:03 Cprossu which interface are you looking at?
01:03 Cprossu ipconfig /renew then
01:03 speedrunnerG55 Cmd ftw
01:04 Cprossu try to ping 192.168.1.1
01:04 Cprossu what do you mean by that statement?
01:04 speedrunnerG55 Gateway ftw
01:04 Cprossu not letting it share?!
01:04 Cprossu there's gotta be something wrong
01:05 Cprossu ok then
01:05 Cprossu do this
01:05 Cprossu just so I can play
01:05 Cprossu swap 1000 and the winbond
01:06 Cprossu just swap those cables
01:06 tonsofpcs route print
01:06 Cprossu I'll look into it in a second
01:07 Cprossu main thing is I don't want broadcasts messing this up
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01:10 Cprossu yeah no kidding
01:11 Phu wait for it cprossu....
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01:11 Phu-Libretto dada! :)
01:12 Cprossu had to try
01:14 Phu-Libretto cheers for your assistance in getting this up and running Cprossu :)
01:16 Cprossu k this network card is dead
01:16 Cprossu or might as well be
01:16 Cprossu winbond
01:16 Cprossu can you swap it for a regular ethernet card
01:17 Cprossu acutally wait
01:17 Cprossu hrmmm
01:17 Cprossu got a usb one laying around?
01:18 Cprossu just swich it back
01:18 Cprossu hmmm
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01:28 Cprossu tggmc are you back yet?
01:28 Ponko92 where did they go Cprossu just out of asking
01:29 Ponko92 i here an XP error message
01:29 Ponko92 i also hear a boden
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01:30 Cprossu that I can't tell you, Ponko92
01:31 Cprossu and that xp noise is me
01:31 Ponko92 is it? lol
01:31 Ponko92 and why's that?
01:32 Cprossu remoting
01:32 Ponko92 is that directed to the former or latter?
01:32 Ponko92 lol
01:33 Cprossu lol
01:33 Cprossu I am remoting to tgg
01:33 Ponko92 ah ok
01:33 Ponko92 and why can't you tell me where they went i mean its ok but i need a reason why
01:34 Cprossu because I have no idea
01:34 Seroster Is there anything that tastes its best at room temperature? Anything that can't taste better by cooling or heating?
01:34 Ponko92 ah right lol
01:34 Cprossu I need steve to get back to this computer
01:34 Cprossu to go any further
01:35 tonsofpcs Seroster: peanut butter.
01:35 LemLap Phu-Libretto: what model libretto is it?
01:35 Seroster FUCK! My hypothesis is screwed. =P
01:35 tonsofpcs also, fluff.
01:35 Ponko92 hmmm ok Cprossu
01:35 tonsofpcs also, fluff + peanutbutter
01:35 tonsofpcs (I suppose a fluffernutter can be on toasted bread, so that doesn't work)
01:35 Ponko92 oooo fluff i LOVE fluff
01:35 Seroster Yes...
01:36 Seroster But anything else?
01:36 eadthem cheese can taste better when its been out for a bit
01:36 Seroster Cheese tastes better when warm (molten) or cold.
01:36 tonsofpcs yes, cheese is supposed to be served at room temperature.
01:36 tonsofpcs potato chips
01:36 Seroster Chips are awesome warm
01:36 tonsofpcs (crisps, i guess?)
01:36 Cprossu revenge is a dish best served room temperature.
01:36 tonsofpcs heh
01:36 Seroster ^^
01:36 eadthem cheesits  taste best hot
01:37 tonsofpcs oh, wow, they're still working in dark HV room
01:37 tonsofpcs eadthem: really? i hasn't tried that
01:37 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: jaaz95 on Project hick ship... the ontario chapters redneck rocketry program.
01:37 Seroster Aint dark when its live =D
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01:37 tonsofpcs Seroster: wasabi
01:37 Fulsy they don't have lights in the HVL?
01:37 eadthem just drop em on a plate and microwave them for a bit
01:37 Seroster tonsofpcs, we, I'd argue that wasabi is hot already
01:37 Seroster well*
01:37 tonsofpcs Fulsy: they do, it looks awesomer in dark in theory though
01:37 eadthem or put em over a fire for a bit(first experenced in winter campout in boyscouts :p
01:37 Fulsy ah
01:38 tonsofpcs Seroster: you were talking temperature differential
01:38 tonsofpcs also, plain apples are best room temperature
01:38 tonsofpcs as are strawberries.
01:38 Seroster Ever had frozen strawberries?
01:38 tonsofpcs yes.  ever had fresh picked strawberries?
01:38 Seroster They are sunwarm
01:38 Seroster =P
01:39 tonsofpcs you're picking them in the wrong place/time of year
01:39 Seroster Sweden in the summer?
01:39 SparkyProjects They don't have lights in HVL, so they use portable lights if working late
01:39 * eadthem defines molten cheese as hot and room temprature cheese as warm
01:40 Fulsy oh
01:40 Ponko92 they're making a video i'm guessing in the HVL
01:40 Fulsy The building never had lights installed when it was a pool?
01:40 tonsofpcs Fulsy: probably had fluorescents that got pulled out
01:40 Ponko92 or is that chris and the CB
01:40 tonsofpcs (my guess)
01:40 Thermoelectric Making Captains Blog.
01:40 Cprossu firing time
01:40 Fulsy oh
01:41 Cprossu that didn't work =(
01:41 eadthem why dose live stream now think chrome = a moble device
01:41 Thermoelectric Damn, still arcing to ground? :(
01:41 eadthem well specificly the geek group website
01:41 SparkyProjects Probably did, but then it probably had a ceiling, i would guess when they converted it they took it down and din't get to replace the lights
01:41 Ponko92 figured
01:41 Seroster Eadthem, room temp, 20c
01:42 Cprossu awwwwww
01:42 Cprossu nice
01:42 Fulsy oooooooohh
01:42 Fulsy aaaaaahhh
01:42 Cprossu gap dead
01:42 Cprossu lol
01:42 Thermoelectric Oh, safety gap.
01:42 Ponko92 i'm just waiting for the time it hits the cam on stream
01:42 Fulsy goddam gap
01:43 Ponko92 i mean i'm not wishing that but you know what i mean
01:43 Thermoelectric Probably won't, as the stream cam is behind the fence.
01:43 Thermoelectric Else tggmc would probably have a problem.
01:43 Cprossu NICE
01:44 Cprossu that's the longest she's run
01:44 Fulsy Love the console indicator lights glowing in the dark
01:45 Fulsy Needs more random blinking lights
01:45 eadthem lifes better with 10% more blinking lights
01:45 Fulsy And Cove lighting
01:47 Fulsy and arrays of switches
01:47 eadthem so have they done anything to the gap to make it go longer?
01:47 Ponko92 i mean course it won't happen but i see sh*t happening that never happens but when it happens i KNEW it was coming
01:47 Ponko92 i mean whats my word to tons of others but you catch my drift right
01:48 eadthem no you have a point
01:48 Fulsy That's also why I watch the stream, just to see if sh*t happens
01:48 Fulsy Like that time lightning struck on the weathercam
01:48 eadthem if the camera cables not got surge supression    it probably shuld
01:48 Fulsy or when there was that leak in master control
01:49 eadthem or hell make the HVL camera the first one to go to SDI  and then use a SDI to fiber converter at both ends    witch would possably also cut down on the interference
01:50 eadthem but  the pepole are fine behind the cage  so aparently it is suficcant
01:50 Fulsy I wonder what would happen if they put a recording camera through thumper
01:51 eadthem the video would stop
01:51 Fulsy oh..good point
01:52 eadthem i dont think you would see much else on tape
01:52 Ponko92 well not that this will interest a great deal of people but that Mendanhall fumble in the Super Bowl i KNEW that was coming
01:52 eadthem because of the delay between  light and accual magnetic recording
01:52 Ponko92 i was glad it too :P
01:53 eadthem might here the pop on the audio however
01:53 Ponko92 what when it hits the ceiling
01:53 eadthem no on a camera in thumper
01:53 Ponko92 ah ok
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01:55 injektion http://theoatmeal.com/comics/smartphone
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01:59 Cprossu tggmc let me know when you get back
02:00 Ponko92 ok i am going to bed i'll see all fellow geeks humans male & female and others later
02:01 KB3NZQ night ponko
02:02 * Ponko92 says night to KB3NZQ and everyone else who says night before they say it
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02:09 speedrunnerG55 Hi
02:10 injektion hi
02:10 SparkyProjects HVL control panel needs an operator light :D
02:12 Thermoelectric I jumped... That was unexpected.
02:15 speedrunnerG55 Cprossu: My mom fixed the problem with the 1406 thing
02:16 Seroster SparkyProjects, duct tape + flashlight = profit
02:16 injektion Why cannot they have lighting in the HVL
02:16 SparkyProjects They can if you donate :D
02:17 injektion I'm broke until Tuesday
02:18 Cprossu tggmc let me know when you get back
02:18 injektion Apparently direct deposit despite being processed Wensday doesn't go into my account until the following Tuesday
02:19 injektion Wednesday*
02:19 SparkyProjects Seroster, cris has a set of something like these http://www.safetyglassessale.com/images/safetyglassesusa_2151_44912042.jpg
02:19 tggmc sparky you watching ustream
02:19 Cprossu hey you are back
02:19 SparkyProjects yes
02:19 tggmc coil firing, I think
02:19 Cprossu yep firing
02:20 injektion How can direct deposit take so fucking long
02:20 Cprossu were you able to find a different lan card? if not
02:20 speedrunnerG55 She found a solution from microsoft. A corupt registery file the permitions wer set wrong. U said it was .net?
02:20 Cprossu I want you to accept the IP settings on the jupiter
02:20 Cprossu and connect the intel 1000 to the hub
02:20 SparkyProjects I've been sorta watchng the stream all afternoon
02:20 Cprossu don't connect internet to the hub though
02:21 Cprossu yeah
02:21 injektion Yes I can
02:21 Cprossu we can hear you
02:21 Cprossu or were you talking to hv?
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02:21 Cprossu now restart the computer
02:21 Cprossu *crosses fingers*
02:22 Cprossu anyway when you get another network card, I'd reccomend like an intel pro 100
02:22 Cprossu something that'll have drivers
02:22 Cprossu looool
02:23 Cprossu ... --- ... <-steve do this
02:23 Cprossu hahahaha
02:23 injektion Did the FCC drop the morse code requirement?
02:23 Cprossu yeah
02:23 injektion Good
02:24 Cprossu it happens
02:24 injektion I can go ahead and do that now
02:24 speedrunnerG55 Sos?
02:24 Cprossu pull up jupiter network suite with the globe
02:24 eadthem kinda sad about that  but  beahings i dont know morse  happy at the same time
02:24 Cprossu connect
02:25 Cprossu then connect all
02:25 Cprossu on jns server tab
02:25 Cprossu actually don't
02:25 Cprossu hrmmm
02:25 Cprossu yeah we are watching
02:25 Cprossu an iris adjustment would probably be better than a camera tilt
02:26 Cprossu go to jns applications
02:26 Cprossu and I think it was control center
02:27 eadthem so its working  Cprossu ?
02:27 Cprossu hmmm fuck
02:27 * speedrunnerG55 flops about
02:27 Cprossu goto jns tools
02:27 Cprossu and board status
02:27 Cprossu anything coming up?
02:28 Cprossu pull up hyperterm
02:28 Cprossu ok nm
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02:28 Cprossu shite.
02:29 Cprossu you had it set right
02:29 Cprossu did you just pull up your previous save?
02:29 Cprossu ok
02:30 Cprossu we might have to reinstall jupiter
02:30 Cprossu to bind the ip
02:30 Cprossu lates
02:30 Cprossu we are so freaking close lol
02:31 Fulsy for f*ck's sake youtube's buffering SUCKS SO BAD today
02:33 speedrunnerG55 Jns?
02:34 injektion Well I failed the FCC practice test
02:34 injektion 19 incorrect answers xD
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02:36 chrisboden what's going on on the stream?
02:37 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Sparky Projects on Project hick ship... the ontario chapters redneck rocketry program.
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02:40 speedrunnerG55 wannabe1987: !
02:40 speedrunnerG55 Ur back :)
02:40 * wannabe1987 has internets again
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02:40 wannabe1987 exor674 - i'm back!!!!!
02:40 * exor674 ceers
02:41 wannabe1987 my phone got cancelled and my internet failed in the same day.  i was BORED last night...
02:41 wannabe1987 we watched a movie tho
02:41 speedrunnerG55 Ohh
02:41 speedrunnerG55 Cable?
02:42 wannabe1987 no...
02:42 wannabe1987 blue box
02:42 speedrunnerG55 ....?
02:42 speedrunnerG55 Dsl?
02:42 wannabe1987 what do you mean by "cable"?
02:42 wannabe1987 BORROWING
02:42 wannabe1987 idk what
02:42 speedrunnerG55 Cable internet
02:42 speedrunnerG55 Oh
02:42 speedrunnerG55 Wifi?
02:42 wannabe1987 i had the "triangle of doom"
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02:43 tonsofpcs heh
02:43 wannabe1987 hi tonsofpcs
02:43 tonsofpcs hi
02:43 tonsofpcs i like that name for it
02:43 tonsofpcs I should use that next time we're discussing the local cable co's horrible service (due to corporate BS)  with the local engineer present :-p
02:43 speedrunnerG55 Triangle of doom? Whats that a loop?
02:43 speedrunnerG55 Brodcast storm?
02:43 tonsofpcs speedrunnerG55: TV+internet+phone
02:43 tonsofpcs i think
02:43 speedrunnerG55 -_- oh
02:44 speedrunnerG55 Isnt that cable?
02:44 Cprossu welcome back steve
02:44 Cprossu nice to see you all
02:44 speedrunnerG55 Tripple play
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02:44 wannabe1987 its true...its a triangle of doom cuz it gives me signal, but no INTERNETS
02:45 wannabe1987 i neeeeeeed my internets
02:45 tonsofpcs speedrunnerG55: the transport medium is irrelevant
02:45 tonsofpcs (at least, technically.  Legally,, there's huge differences)
02:45 Cprossu what pci card does kidwell have?
02:45 Cprossu tggmc ^
02:46 * tonsofpcs is trying to figure out what this rogue device on his lan is
02:46 Cprossu fuck
02:46 Cprossu fuck fuck.
02:46 Cprossu lol
02:46 Cprossu well pop it in o/
02:46 Cprossu try to get internet out of it
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02:48 speedrunnerG55 Did i net split?
02:48 Cprossu omg hahahah
02:49 Cprossu see we should have done morse after all, tggmc
02:49 Cprossu though we need a strobe circuit now
02:49 tonsofpcs you will need additional gain for a dynamic mic, steve
02:49 tonsofpcs just fyi
02:49 tonsofpcs (yea, it's one cap, i know)
02:51 Thermoelectric New Captains Blog: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBN0PqWnk5I
02:51 tonsofpcs oh, then you'll just need to power them
02:51 tonsofpcs awesome
02:52 * speedrunnerG55 rolls around
02:52 tonsofpcs my past homebrews we used headsets that were bought for cheap 2-ways and put our own 1/8"s on em
02:52 Cprossu plug inet into "new" winbond card
02:53 wannabe1987 speedrunnerG55 no
02:53 speedrunnerG55 Ok
02:53 Cprossu see if you pull an ip/can get on the inet now
02:54 Cprossu I have a barricade that's just the motors
02:54 Cprossu makes something you can palm
02:55 Cprossu run the showmypc if the internet works
02:55 Cprossu and I'll bash my dead in a bit more :D
02:56 tonsofpcs Thermoelectric: awesome pics.
02:56 Cprossu don't run anything else yet other than that
02:57 Cprossu give me remote now let's see
02:57 Cprossu yeah I have some head bashing to look at
02:57 tonsofpcs is it trying to bind on the interface that isn't there anymore?
02:57 Cprossu tggmc ^
02:58 Cprossu it's got a manual ip
02:58 Cprossu hang on tggmc
02:58 Cprossu what is the subnet?
02:58 wannabe1987 gonna go fire...bbl
02:58 Cprossu hey tggmc I need to find a menu I was in earlier
02:58 Cprossu no
02:59 Cprossu I should written it down
02:59 Cprossu make sure our hub is runnin
02:59 Cprossu wait what?
02:59 Cprossu o_O
03:00 Cprossu ok
03:00 Cprossu ping 192.168.253.10
03:00 Cprossu tggmc
03:01 Cprossu I thought I typed that in correctly
03:01 speedrunnerG55 O_o
03:01 Cprossu let me see
03:02 Cprossu it might not be able to ping right now
03:02 Cprossu tggmc ^ we have to upload it again
03:02 Cprossu and I don't remember where that config menu was
03:02 Cprossu you were gone for like 45minutes after I found it
03:02 Cprossu and I forgot =(
03:02 Cprossu it's way buggy
03:02 Cprossu give me remote I'll get it going again
03:03 Cprossu it's in downloads
03:03 Cprossu good deal
03:03 Cprossu it's got some natting protocol in it
03:03 Cprossu probably a tunnel
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03:07 tonsofpcs hmmm
03:07 tonsofpcs this other device is wireless
03:07 muffin_ nerf nerf amirite
03:08 tonsofpcs oh, duh
03:08 tonsofpcs i know what it is!
03:08 tonsofpcs it's the 'internet radio' that wouldn't be on except i'm using it as a speaker for the webstream :D
03:08 muffin_ haha that sounds awesome
03:08 muffin_ also, sorry if i interrupted some other converation.
03:08 tonsofpcs it's IRC, if there aren't 3 convvos minimum at any time, you're doing something wrong
03:09 muffin_ hahaha okay, cool
03:09 muffin_ i'm wrestling with ubuntu wireless drivers ... fun.
03:09 Cprossu this is the trick question
03:10 Cprossu see it tggmc ?
03:10 Seroster Well. Im off to hit the hay.
03:10 Seroster And Hi BatSteve.
03:10 BatSteve hey Seroster!
03:10 BatSteve I didn't see you there
03:10 Seroster Not until I'm about to leave xD
03:10 tonsofpcs muffin_: what version?  what wireless device?
03:10 Cprossu that's what part I was asking about heh
03:10 Seroster Murphus law is fucking with our relationship, BatSteve :c
03:10 BatSteve it's true
03:10 BatSteve we lose
03:11 tonsofpcs I have some #3 phillips in my racks..... so damn annoying
03:11 BatSteve I'll be around a lot tomorrow maybe, if you're bored, come hang out.
03:11 tonsofpcs (and some flat-head...)
03:11 tonsofpcs yea, they are
03:11 tonsofpcs and they just get stripped by #2 heads
03:11 tonsofpcs (bits?)
03:11 muffin_ so who is who? i'm new to this irc
03:11 NeWtoz I'm me
03:12 NeWtoz that is all you need to know ;)
03:12 tonsofpcs I'm tonsofpcs (no one here knows me by anything else, afaik)
03:12 Thermoelectric tggmc is Steve
03:12 muffin_ ... clever <3
03:12 muffin_ i thought i was me?
03:12 Seroster Should seal the room with the spark gap in it
03:12 tonsofpcs (specifically, tggmc is the computer in tgg's  MC, steve is there now.)
03:12 Seroster BatSteve, My mother in law is coming tomorrow. Rar.
03:12 BatSteve bummer
03:12 BatSteve hi muffin_, welcome
03:13 muffin_ hey, thanks =]
03:13 muffin_ i wish i didnt live 800 miles from grand rapids...
03:13 BatSteve Most everyone in here is just regular TGG members
03:13 NeWtoz I like muffins, so your nick makes me feel good
03:13 tonsofpcs that's close!
03:13 Cprossu restarting windows, tggmc
03:13 * tonsofpcs is in NY
03:13 tonsofpcs Cprossu is in AZ
03:13 Cprossu yeah
03:13 tonsofpcs someone here is in .au
03:13 Thermoelectric (waves)
03:14 BatSteve Chris Boden is usually around somewhere, but he seems to have gone to bed for the night
03:14 Seroster I don't blame him.
03:14 tonsofpcs is that you (.au), Thermoelectric ?
03:14 muffin_ i may make the trip from PA this summer if work allows.
03:14 BatSteve yeah, thermo and madmanmark are in australia
03:14 Seroster Yes, He is our crikey 'stralian =D
03:14 BatSteve as is lemming
03:14 tonsofpcs Seroster is in... se? be? somewhere around there?
03:14 Seroster But dont' tease him... He might throw kangaooos at ye!
03:14 Seroster tonsofpcs, Sweden
03:15 BatSteve Seroster is a pirate.  He answers to no nation.
03:15 muffin_ australia, wow
03:15 BatSteve :]
03:15 Seroster The country of blondes, boobs and buttocks
03:15 NeWtoz we get around
03:15 BatSteve and bows to no king
03:15 Thermoelectric Hehe
03:15 muffin_ or koalas
03:15 Seroster BatSteve, I dunno if the controvercy about the swedish king has reached the news overseas?
03:15 Seroster HUGE thing in germany, pretty big shit in sweden.
03:15 Obtuse_ and OPETH
03:15 Seroster For some reason the germans care about our royal family
03:15 BatSteve I have been pretty isolated from the world, so even if it did, I didn't hear it.
03:16 tonsofpcs Seroster: this is the US.  we get our news from CNN and crappy local newspapers.  What do you think?
03:16 Seroster Right
03:16 Obtuse_ can't wait to see Opeth again!
03:16 eadthem ?
03:16 NeWtoz we do get the BBC news on NPR
03:16 Seroster BatSteve, He done some deals with the mob with taxpayer money, fucked a hooker or two, went to one too many strip clubs and was a bit too drunk at a few dozen partys.
03:16 tonsofpcs NeWtoz: well, technically your local NPR affiliate is also a BBC News affiliate (the one here is not)
03:16 Seroster And something like 60% of the population wants him off the throne for it xD
03:17 tonsofpcs also, NPR probably gives me more real news than anything else and I don't actively listen....
03:17 BatSteve Seroster: oh, shoot, I'm from Detroit, that's just normal operating practice for our elected officials
03:17 NeWtoz I get all my news from Jon Stewart
03:17 Seroster BatSteve, Well. He aint elected
03:17 Obtuse_ lol BatSteve
03:17 muffin_ reliable.
03:17 muffin_ colbert is better.
03:17 tonsofpcs (mind you, I work there and listen to fix stuff when it breaks)
03:17 Seroster And the only way for the people to get rid of him is with an ounce of lead or begging him to abdicate
03:17 Obtuse_ Quami Kilpatrick can rot in a jail cell for all I care
03:17 tonsofpcs ann ounce of lead? does no one there solder?
03:18 Seroster BatSteve, His job includes... Shaking hands, smiling (optional) and live in a bigass mansion (one of his seven) and spend taxpayer money on whatever the fuck he wants to =P
03:18 muffin_ cannons <3
03:18 * tonsofpcs needs a new TV for his bedroom... flyback in this one is going haywire
03:18 Seroster His allowance is a few millions a month
03:18 tonsofpcs allowance? I want an allowance!
03:19 Seroster Personaly I find it hillarious that he is out of control, too bad I have to pay for him.
03:19 Seroster tonsofpcs, Well, you should have ben born a Bernadotte then.
03:19 BatSteve cannons!  /me wants to be a king and have cannons
03:19 Cprossu tggmc pay attention
03:19 BatSteve Seroster: bummer.  At least you can shoot him though, right?
03:19 NeWtoz you tell him
03:19 Cprossu tggmc it's control center
03:19 Seroster Problem with being a Bernadotte is they've ben banging their cousins for the past 200 or so years
03:19 Cprossu that has the one
03:19 BatSteve I mean, here we have to vote our elected officials out.
03:19 Seroster BatSteve, Well, since you aint allowed to have guns.
03:20 Cprossu post mortem
03:20 Seroster And he got a pretty damn massive life guard
03:20 Cprossu that doesn't sound good ]
03:20 tonsofpcs BatSteve: nah, they mostly resign
03:20 Cprossu post mortem tggmc
03:20 Cprossu ^
03:20 Seroster And nobody cares enough to shoot his sorry ass =P
03:20 BatSteve oh, drat
03:20 tonsofpcs at least, the NY officials do...
03:20 NeWtoz I liked Weiner
03:21 tonsofpcs what about spitzer?
03:21 Seroster I am so amused that I wake up and go to bed at the same time as Captain does, but 7 timezones away xD
03:21 NeWtoz Wiener*
03:21 tonsofpcs and ... and ... and ....
03:21 Seroster But you are almost right about me and bowing, BatSteve. The only circumstances you can make me bow is if I'm giving a bj.
03:21 NeWtoz not a fan of Santorum though
03:21 BatSteve I regret that NY dude stepped down.  He made an excellent auto-tuned singer.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KucV8renOfI&amp;feature=player_detailpage#t=108s
03:22 Seroster And then I'd probably just get on my damn knees. Or maybe a chair.
03:22 Cprossu OOOOOOOH
03:22 Cprossu that's good
03:22 Cprossu CHECK THAT OUT!
03:22 Seroster Nice, BatSteve =D
03:22 * Cprossu does a dance
03:22 NeWtoz out of context quote there
03:22 BatSteve if you watch a bit longer, Barack sings
03:23 Cprossu tonsofpcs : uploading saturn.sys!
03:23 tonsofpcs whooooooooooo
03:23 Cprossu this is fucking sweet
03:23 Cprossu do not breathe on it
03:23 Cprossu lol
03:23 * KB3NZQ kills cprossu's connection to the computer
03:23 Cprossu or cause any EM
03:23 Cprossu YEAH!
03:23 LeadHead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoKXCUDg-8Q&amp;feature=player_embedded
03:23 Cprossu firmware 6.2.1 LOADED
03:24 LeadHead That is probably one of the top 5 coolest thing
03:24 Seroster BatSteve, Saw the vid of Obamas limo getting stuck in the UK?
03:24 LeadHead I've ever seen
03:24 Cprossu mo mcs defined
03:24 Cprossu fuck
03:24 Cprossu well we are still further along
03:24 Seroster I wonder how many feds shit their pants that very instant "OCRAP FUCK He's a second from being shot and I'l be fired, DAAAMN!"
03:24 BatSteve I actually haven't seen it, Seroster, though I've heard of
03:24 tonsofpcs Cprossu: did you try sending and it failed?
03:24 Cprossu no mcs defined
03:24 Cprossu now we just have a config issue
03:24 Seroster BatSteve, They get this wonderful paniced look xD
03:24 Cprossu that's doable
03:25 BatSteve hahah I bet
03:25 tonsofpcs the instructions I saw said that if you have the FS running and turn the console (just the console not the whole thing, *i think*) on it should request the .sys
03:25 tonsofpcs ( http://www.grassvalley.com/apps/doc_show?&amp;set=mcontrol&amp;c=Saturn|Saturn%20Master%20Control%20System&super=broadcast#febs section 2)
03:25 tonsofpcs although i think you may be doing more detailed setup than that assumes...
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03:26 BatSteve A wild RED appears!
03:26 Seroster BotSteve, should I molest my gf a bit when I go to bed?
03:26 BotSteve Oh yeah!
03:26 REDoutofstate lol.
03:26 REDoutofstate Hai.
03:26 tggmc hi red
03:26 Seroster Dang BatSteve, you let your bot go to some nasty sites!
03:26 REDoutofstate Hai internet :)
03:26 REDoutofstate lol
03:27 Thermoelectric You missded the coil firing Red! :(
03:27 REDoutofstate I know.
03:27 REDoutofstate I'm very upset about that.
03:27 tonsofpcs it's on the interwebs!
03:27 BatSteve Seroster: BotSteve is in favor of human reproduction.
03:27 REDoutofstate BUT. I've been at the racetrack with old cars, and the smell of gasoline and burning rubber...along with the roar of engines...I'm a happy camper.
03:27 BotSteve Actually I'm in favor of having more squishy things to shoot at when the robot revolution starts.
03:28 REDoutofstate (I grew up at the race track).
03:28 Seroster BatSteve, I thought he was in favour of taking over the world, like all machines?
03:28 BatSteve apparently I was mistaken
03:28 Cprossu hey tggmc where is this table?
03:28 Thermoelectric BotSteve, how long till the robot revolution starts?
03:29 Cprossu highlighted in hyperterm
03:29 Thermoelectric Bot hates me.
03:29 Seroster Thermoelectric, It already has! BWAHAHAHAAAA
03:29 Seroster Ey BotSteve, I'm off to sleep.
03:29 BotSteve Goodnight Seroster.
03:29 LeadHead REDoutofstate: You'd like the vintage racecar day they have over at Lime Rock in Connecticut
03:29 Seroster And Thermoelectric, My latest motstack (also) crashed and burned.
03:29 LeadHead then
03:29 Thermoelectric Night Seroster.
03:29 Cprossu My IP 192.168.253.11, Server IP 192.168.253.1
03:29 Cprossu 00:00:00:00 (tRootTask): GetChannelExistance: mcsDescTable[0].Audio12 undefined
03:29 Thermoelectric Geeze, you're good at that Seroster.
03:29 Seroster I tried to make one with 8. That was a damn waste of mots. xD
03:29 REDoutofstate What is it LeadHead ?
03:29 Cprossu tonsofpcs ^
03:30 Seroster Suppose it wasnt rated for ~20kv xD
03:30 speedrunnerG55 Oh hi RED!
03:30 LeadHead It's a big event at the lime rock race track. They have vintage race cars from the 60s-80s just going at it
03:30 LeadHead in various classes
03:30 tonsofpcs Cprossu: good.  Define it? :)
03:30 Cprossu tggmc: bathroom break
03:30 Cprossu mess with it
03:31 Cprossu look for that audio
03:31 Cprossu rofl
03:31 LeadHead At oine point they had a 1940s supercharged mercedes racer taking laps around the track
03:31 Cprossu I think it kicks me out after an hour
03:31 REDoutofstate One of my favorite cars, the BelAir. <3 http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/264585_1884130503907_1260690192_31911035_7464833_n.jpg
03:31 Cprossu but I'll do all I can
03:31 LeadHead http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1667530/limerock/pic/IMG_5458.JPG
03:32 LeadHead One of the neater classes was the vintage british car class
03:32 LeadHead http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1667530/limerock/pic/IMG_5489.JPG
03:32 Seroster Thermoelectric, I noticed that if you float the core at 8kv over ground (windings at 12k over ground) you don't short the secondary to the core, but you start shorting the core to the primary, and that causes a naaasty feedback that burned my control box.
03:32 LeadHead something about those original MINIs blasting around the track
03:33 LeadHead Everyone loved this guy, he lead must of the laps http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1667530/limerock/pic/IMG_5522.JPG
03:33 Thermoelectric That's where some insulation, such as oil would be useful. As that would reduce the likelyhood of arcing over.
03:33 speedrunnerG55 ...hi REDoutofstate
03:33 Cprossu back. I tell you tggmc , this software is more buggy than if you use TheSky to control a telescope
03:33 Seroster I think the limit for core voltage is 6kv, and the core-secondary difference is around 8-10. But I will have to do some more experimentation, after rebuilding the stack
03:33 REDoutofstate Hai Speed, dear.
03:34 Seroster Thermoelectric, Yes and no, the purpose of my stack is to see how far I can go and still have a working stack =P
03:34 LeadHead The last race of the day was vintage open class V8s
03:34 LeadHead Lots of 60s Mustangs, even a Ford GT40
03:34 LeadHead going at at
03:34 Seroster I am not after a device that will power anything, then I'd just get a pole xformer or a few NSTs, but that aint as fun as stacking =P
03:34 Thermoelectric Seroster: You can have a working stack with oil, it's just not as portable... (tell me 8 MOT
03:34 Thermoelectric 's are portable in hte first place) :P
03:34 Thermoelectric Stupid enter.
03:35 Seroster Thermoelectric, as a matter of fact I have the entire assembly on wheels
03:35 Seroster Well, not at the moment, it is in pieces in my closet.
03:35 Thermoelectric Then oil won't hurt it, cause you won't be lifting it.
03:35 Seroster But yes, 10 mots is pretty close to my weight xD
03:35 Seroster Thermoelectric, I want it to be dry. =P
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03:36 Seroster Because I don't have a workshop, and I don't want to create that kind of mess in my apartment. xD
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03:36 Thermoelectric That's half the fun
03:36 Seroster And as I said, the purpose is not getting a stable unit, more exploring what is possible ^^
03:37 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:
03:37 BotSteve Captain's Blog 6-17-11 Tesla Coil Tuning http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBN0PqWnk5I
03:37 Cprossu goodbye!
03:38 tonsofpcs g'nite
03:38 Seroster Atm the MOTstack is bagged, I am working on another PSU, a few ballasts and a lil control circuitry, working out the schematics of it
03:38 Thermoelectric Weathercam?
03:38 LeadHead Anyone here like V8s?
03:39 muffin_ i own one
03:39 LeadHead http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1667530/limerock/pic2/IMG_5441.JPG
03:39 Seroster Will be nice when its done, 125+125+70+20+36+??!??! watts.
03:39 Seroster .c 125+125+70+20+36
03:39 BotSteve 376
03:39 Seroster Great =)
03:39 Thermoelectric Pfft, just unballast it, blow some breakers.
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03:40 Seroster I will also add two built in automatic breakers at 10-16amps
03:40 Seroster Thermoelectric, Problem is my computer runs on the same breaker. =P
03:40 LeadHead I heard you guys also had a thing for Lotus vehicles?
03:40 LeadHead http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1667530/limerock/pic2/IMG_5442.JPG
03:40 Seroster It is a laptop, but the internet doesnt like it =P
03:40 Obtuse_ um, that might be the coolest captain's blog this year
03:40 eadthem Seroster automatic?   as aposed to ?
03:41 Thermoelectric Pfft. Battery backup the interwebs, Seroster.
03:41 eadthem you mean resetting?
03:41 Seroster eadthem, Indeed I do, sorry about that.
03:41 Seroster Here they are called "automats�kringar" - automatic safetys (fuses)
03:41 eadthem what kind of self reseting?
03:41 Seroster Because they automatically turns off when overloaded
03:41 eadthem PTC thermisters?
03:42 Thermoelectric Possibly just a resettable replacement for fuse wire..
03:42 Seroster Resettable, as in overload -> trip, push a lever and you are back in buisniess.
03:42 eadthem o so its just a plain thermal breaker
03:42 Seroster Eh. No
03:43 Seroster http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/Four_1_pole_circuit_breakers_fitted_in_a_meter_box.jpg
03:44 Thermoelectric So they just go in where the old fuse wire thingies used to go, nice.
03:44 eadthem ya
03:44 eadthem they make them for bullit fuses as well
03:44 Seroster Thermoelectric, I also intend to get an ampmeter and include it in this unit
03:45 Thermoelectric Good idea.
03:45 Seroster As well as a few nice indicator lights
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03:45 eadthem bullit
03:45 eadthem the round thingys
03:45 Seroster (Wich doesnt really forfill a purpose, but looks awesome
03:45 Thermoelectric Glow in the dark! :P
03:46 Thermoelectric My MOT (only using one at the time) always seemed to trip the GFI/RCD or whatever you call it, the thingy that trips when there is too much earth leakage.
03:46 Seroster Heh
03:46 Seroster What are you grounding it to?
03:47 speedrunnerG55 Whats going on in stream?
03:47 Seroster Shoud be no problem if you ground to the neutral
03:47 Thermoelectric The core was grounded to neutral.
03:47 Cprossu BOOTP Request for saturn.sys
03:47 Cprossu attempting BOOTP
03:47 Cprossu Sent BOOTP request...Waiting 99 ticks...Received reply.
03:47 Cprossu My IP 192.168.253.11, Server IP 192.168.253.1
03:47 Cprossu 00:00:00:00 (tRootTask): GetChannelExistance: mcsDescTable[0].Audio12 undefined.
03:47 Cprossu Starting board, entry point: 0x87ccaa
03:47 Cprossu interrupt: Sync appears to be valid.
03:47 Cprossu 00:00:00:04 (tStartBoard): GetChannelExistance: Table[0].Audio12 undefined.
03:47 Cprossu 00:00:01:14 (upmx): getMem() - attempt to get zero length buffer
03:47 Cprossu 00:00:01:15 (upmx): getMem() - attempt to get zero length buffer
03:47 Cprossu Analog> 00:00:04:08 (tAutx): Auto Defeat enabled.
03:47 Cprossu Bus Error
03:47 Seroster WTF CPROSSU
03:47 speedrunnerG55 O_o
03:47 Cprossu working on a config error posting it here first
03:48 MadManMarkAu Haha, that's... fucked
03:48 eadthem anything after bus error
03:48 Cprossu tonsofpcs : more fun
03:48 Seroster Well. I'm off to hit the hay
03:48 Cprossu no at bus error it reboots I think
03:48 BatSteve gnite Seroster
03:48 Thermoelectric Night Seroster
03:48 speedrunnerG55 Nighr Seroster
03:48 eadthem well thats maddinly unhelpful
03:48 speedrunnerG55 Night*
03:49 Seroster I think I'll down a lil rum, just for the hell of it. ARR!
03:49 eadthem witch bus  witch box    what kind of error.   its like they learned error messages from microsoft
03:49 Seroster And because it's friggin tasty.
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03:50 speedrunnerG55 Seroter is sutch a pirate
03:51 tonsofpcs Cprossu: hmm?
03:51 BatSteve yo ho.
03:51 speedrunnerG55 Hi BatSteve
03:51 tonsofpcs surely you ain't callin me a ho.
03:51 REDoutofstate Like a pirate.
03:51 BatSteve tonsofpcs: I am calling you a ho.  And stop calling me shirley.
03:51 tonsofpcs :)
03:52 speedrunnerG55 Lol
03:52 Cprossu tonsofpcs scroll up
03:52 Cprossu for huge error set
03:52 tonsofpcs Cprossu: lazy :D
03:52 tonsofpcs (1 sec)
03:52 tonsofpcs that's not huge... umm...
03:52 tonsofpcs it likes the sync! YAY!
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03:52 Cprossu well you know bus error isn't good
03:52 speedrunnerG55 It flodded my screem
03:52 speedrunnerG55 Screen
03:53 tonsofpcs why have yo not defined audio12 yet? or is it defined and you need to undefine it because you dont have 12 inputs?
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03:53 Cprossu no audio in
03:53 Cprossu @ tonsofpcs
03:53 speedrunnerG55 Hi Dougy WB
03:53 Cprossu we do not have the audio frame
03:53 Cprossu at least I don't think we do
03:54 tonsofpcs ok, so you need to undefine that
03:54 Cprossu if I could only find where it's defined
03:54 eadthem Cprossu  well if the studio upgraded    why would they not replace the audio frame
03:54 * speedrunnerG55 makes toast
03:54 speedrunnerG55 :)
03:54 eadthem not saying that they gave tgg it
03:54 Cprossu eadthem: I have no clue!
03:55 Cprossu why didn't they give them the NT4 box that ran it?! xD
03:55 eadthem just saying logicaly    youed replace the audio frame as well
03:55 tonsofpcs eadthem: why?
03:55 Cprossu since it was running 5.2 or whatever before
03:55 tonsofpcs they might have been digital audio already
03:55 Cprossu it had to have been running nt4 or win95
03:55 tonsofpcs or they might have stayed analog audio
03:55 tonsofpcs I have everything from analog+mono audio to HDSDI with embedded audio in my station's master control....
03:55 LeadHead I can't even imagine a piece of mission critical equipment
03:55 LeadHead running on Win95
03:56 tonsofpcs LeadHead: I pulled my WinNT control system out last march.  Replced with Server 2003
03:56 tonsofpcs (control for the encode/air chain)
03:57 eadthem LeadHead  i cant imagen a piece of mission critical equipment running on win*
03:57 LeadHead Eh
03:57 LeadHead I can see NT4 or Windows 2000/Server
03:57 tonsofpcs now my oldest OS attached to a critical system is the control for the video server, running Windows 2000 Server.  The control computer is not necessary for this thing at all, howeever, it's just SNMP pokes and prods masked by a local webserver
03:57 KB3NZQ wtf why is this cam gliching every few secs
03:57 LeadHead but Windows 9x jut seems suicidal
03:58 tonsofpcs LeadHead: it was NT4 workstation, running Oracle locally to handle a table that I could manage on one 1024x768 screen in excel...
03:58 LeadHead hm
03:59 tonsofpcs oh, and the stuff needed to talk to it to come back up from any failure mode
04:00 Cprossu I wish I had a 'virtual' avp3500 to test configs on =P
04:00 KB3NZQ good morning from Mars PA it is 12:00:40 am
04:00 tonsofpcs it doesn't validate?
04:00 tonsofpcs /bin/sh: now: not found
04:00 tonsofpcs bah, i forgot to put that script on this pc....
04:01 tonsofpcs same time here :-p
04:01 * speedrunnerG55 finishes his toast.
04:01 speedrunnerG55 Yum
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04:04 Cprossu tonsofpcs :
04:05 Cprossu spamming irc again
04:05 Cprossu * Jupiter Firmware Release 6.2.1 *
04:05 Cprossu Saturn AVP
04:05 Cprossu Compiled Dec 17 2001 14:15:21
04:05 Cprossu My ethernet address 00:80:ce:05:01:94
04:05 Cprossu BOOTP Request for saturn.sys
04:05 Cprossu attempting BOOTP
04:05 Cprossu Sent BOOTP request...Waiting 99 ticks...Received reply.
04:05 Cprossu My IP 192.168.253.11, Server IP 192.168.253.1
04:05 Cprossu 00:00:00:00 (tRootTask): GetChannelExistance: mcsDescTable[0].Audio12 undefined.
04:05 Cprossu Starting board, entry point: 0x87ccaa
04:05 Cprossu interrupt: Sync appears to be valid.
04:05 Cprossu 00:00:00:04 (tStartBoard): GetChannelExistance: Table[0].Audio12 undefined.
04:05 speedrunnerG55 O_o
04:05 Toastdude Ummm......
04:05 tonsofpcs why haven't you undefined it yet?
04:05 tonsofpcs or defined it
04:05 tonsofpcs or whatver
04:06 Cprossu because I can't find anywhere it's defined
04:06 Cprossu omg
04:08 Toastdude What?
04:09 LeadHead That's what I said when I found out URI has their own version of Zom
04:09 speedrunnerG55 Hi Toastdude
04:09 Toastdude Hi speedrunner!
04:11 tonsofpcs Cprossu: it says something about definition tables in section 2 at that url i pasted
04:15 * speedrunnerG55 hugs Toastdude. Is covered in crumbs
04:15 KB3NZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cPJVkly3pU&amp;feature=related
04:15 Cprossu crap
04:15 Cprossu tggmc I lost connection
04:16 Cprossu oh well
04:16 Cprossu *tries relogging
04:17 Cprossu boo
04:17 * REDoutofstate has the munchies.
04:18 Cprossu I am looking at it now tonsofpcs
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04:19 Cprossu actually no
04:20 Cprossu I am looking at the wrong thing
04:20 Cprossu tonsofpcs could you repost?
04:20 KB3NZQ http://www.grassvalley.com/apps/doc_show?&amp;set=mcontrol&amp;c=Saturn%7CSaturn%20Master%20Control%20System&amp;super=broadcast#febs
04:23 Cprossu rofl
04:23 Cprossu I can't remotely switch dip switches
04:23 Cprossu hey there who goes there tggmc
04:23 Cprossu I got kicked out
04:23 Cprossu and we found something
04:23 Cprossu I think our bus error due to no audio
04:23 Cprossu is due to a dip switch setting
04:24 Cprossu section 2 of that link
04:24 Cprossu above
04:24 Cprossu with all the other saturn crap
04:24 Cprossu I do have something to show you before you leave
04:24 Cprossu sign of hope
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04:25 Cprossu not just yet
04:26 tonsofpcs ?
04:26 Cprossu yeah I am
04:26 Cprossu taking longer than usual
04:26 tonsofpcs the "Audio 12" isn't a dip switch
04:27 Cprossu rejected
04:27 Cprossu hrmmm
04:27 Cprossu application fail.
04:28 Cprossu nope you typed it right
04:28 Cprossu still not working
04:28 Cprossu worked
04:28 Cprossu it worked
04:28 tonsofpcs ? are you talking to someone on-site?
04:29 Cprossu see the sign of hope
04:29 Cprossu and I have one more important thing to show you
04:29 Cprossu yes
04:30 Cprossu this takes place
04:30 Cprossu of the other thing
04:30 Cprossu that you couldn't find saturn in
04:30 Cprossu in the MPK settings
04:30 Cprossu this is it I think
04:30 Cprossu I added these
04:31 Cprossu but they might not be right
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04:31 Cprossu it's NOT in mpk
04:31 Cprossu this takes place of the mpk
04:31 Cprossu just as a test
04:31 Cprossu what I found
04:31 Cprossu was the mpk is more for automation
04:31 Cprossu in this version
04:31 Cprossu of the software
04:31 Cprossu the older version was different
04:33 Cprossu I need to disable audio 12
04:33 Cprossu somehow
04:33 Cprossu and then a bus error
04:34 Cprossu still we got the analog frame up
04:34 Cprossu it could be
04:34 Cprossu before it crashes the analog frame say OK
04:35 Cprossu I have no clue I am sure it is
04:35 Cprossu but we are closer
04:35 Cprossu bootp is working properly
04:35 Cprossu for the first time
04:35 Cprossu k
04:35 Cprossu actually wait
04:36 Cprossu look it's doing something now
04:36 Cprossu wtf
04:36 LeadHead are you remote desktop'd in
04:36 LeadHead or something
04:36 LeadHead cprossu
04:36 tonsofpcs oh, sorry, it's section 3
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04:37 Cprossu nice to see v 6.2.1 on the serial output though
04:37 tonsofpcs look at page 3-3
04:37 Cprossu 3-3
04:37 Cprossu looking
04:37 tonsofpcs (and around there)
04:37 tonsofpcs i think that's where "Audio 12" is defined
04:38 Cprossu I hung it up
04:38 tonsofpcs (or 3-27, not sure which one applies, basically the samet hing)
04:38 Cprossu so no more beeps
04:39 Cprossu I bet if we boot it
04:39 Cprossu something else happens
04:39 Cprossu but for now
04:39 Cprossu we need to read sec 3.3
04:39 Cprossu http://www.grassvalley.com/apps/doc_show?&amp;set=mcontrol&amp;c=Saturn|Saturn%20Master%20Control%20System&super=broadcast#febs
04:39 tonsofpcs sec 3 p3
04:39 tonsofpcs or sec3 p27
04:40 Cprossu awww man
04:40 tonsofpcs my bet is that the first audido channel defined happened to be named 'Audio 12' in the previous setup
04:40 tonsofpcs yup
04:40 tonsofpcs it's signal definitions
04:41 Cprossu hummm
04:41 tonsofpcs possibly
04:41 tonsofpcs or it's just #12...
04:41 LeadHead So what's the current issue?
04:41 Cprossu the drop down doesn't seem to have anything in it
04:42 tonsofpcs right.
04:42 tonsofpcs that's the issue.  It seems that one is defined for some reason.
04:42 LeadHead So as of right now, this thing can only switch video?
04:42 tonsofpcs it's not intended to switch audio
04:42 Cprossu right now it can't switch ANYTHING
04:42 LeadHead Oh, but the software seems to think it has audio equipment?
04:43 LeadHead but it doesn't
04:43 Cprossu Dante's InfVBal
04:43 Cprossu ^ that's my guess
04:43 LeadHead There is no "None"
04:43 LeadHead objection
04:43 LeadHead **option
04:43 LeadHead get's angry?
04:43 tonsofpcs LeadHead: it seems that the configuration it is loading is pointing to something named "Audio 12" that it ca't find.
04:44 Cprossu and then it chokes on anything it doesn't like
04:44 tonsofpcs It's possible that "Audio 12" was a previous setup that was audio + no video and it's freaking out because you're telling it to do nothing
04:44 Cprossu no tonsofpcs it deleted the memory
04:44 LeadHead But shouldn't all configuration be stored on the server?
04:44 tonsofpcs s/previous/default?
04:44 Cprossu when it updated the firmware
04:44 Cprossu you know
04:44 Cprossu I wonder
04:44 Cprossu is there a default config for a saturn
04:44 Cprossu that would be interesting
04:44 tonsofpcs Cprossu: was there something like [4~[D in theereC300?
04:45 tonsofpcs *C300 in there?
04:45 Cprossu hrmmm wtf are those?
04:45 Cprossu and cfgold
04:45 Cprossu cfgold is what we are running now
04:45 tonsofpcs cfg old
04:45 Cprossu I made it
04:45 tonsofpcs old config
04:45 Cprossu so I wouldn't f' up the other one
04:45 Cprossu because I changed around so many things
04:45 Cprossu I save as'ed
04:45 Cprossu and it saved there
04:46 Cprossu sadly
04:46 Cprossu so I uploaded this
04:46 tonsofpcs can you download 170MB quickly?
04:46 tonsofpcs (try numerics first)
04:47 LeadHead If this thing had been programmed by Ford, have the stuff on it could be broken and it'd still try and work :-P
04:47 LeadHead Of Course, it'd probably catch on fire
04:47 tonsofpcs if you can DL fast, there's a ZIP file here that's 'documentation cd'.  If there's defaults/samples that aren't included with the software, i'd expect they were on the docs cd.  http://www.grassvalley.com/cgi-bin/doc.pl?&amp;set=routers&amp;c=Jupiter|Jupiter%20Control%20Systems&super=broadcast#febs
04:47 LeadHead *half the stuff
04:47 Cprossu no we won't
04:47 KB3NZQ tggmc please stop camera scanning and keep it on you
04:48 speedrunnerG55 I hate it when my pc crashes
04:48 tonsofpcs whoa, that just terminated when you told it to stay on you
04:48 KB3NZQ thank you
04:48 Cprossu weird mess though
04:48 speedrunnerG55 I can even hear it...not doing annything
04:48 speedrunnerG55 :(
04:48 tonsofpcs my router is some crazy db that EVERY change I make causes a clone of the whole DB, then I have to verify it twice before I can do anything with it (apply, save not apply, anything)
04:49 tonsofpcs just do a windows search for *, sort by file type
04:50 Cprossu hahahahaah
04:50 Cprossu no you can't
04:50 Cprossu lets add the frame
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04:51 LemLap man this channel is nuts busy these days
04:51 LemLap I remember a few months back where it'd be quiet most of the time :-D
04:52 Cprossu duh
04:52 Cprossu get the hq
04:52 LeadHead So, on a scale of 1-10, how polished and bug-free
04:52 LeadHead is this software
04:52 Obtuse_ lol. bug free
04:52 Cprossu oh wait
04:52 Cprossu does it need the HW
04:52 Cprossu ?
04:52 Cprossu yeah
04:52 Speed_Laptop and im always feeling like im getting 1/2 of the conversation :'(
04:52 BatSteve LeadHead: your scale is wrong
04:52 Cprossu says 12 digit though
04:53 Cprossu duh 6 x 2
04:53 Cprossu ok
04:53 BatSteve On a scale of "Any Valve release" to "Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing" how polished and bug free is this software
04:53 * wannabe1987 isn't sober
04:53 Speed_Laptop D: wannabe
04:54 LeadHead oh god
04:54 LeadHead BROTRR
04:54 LeadHead That was a hilarious video
04:54 Cprossu roflllll
04:54 Cprossu we should play yakity sax
04:54 Cprossu while we do this
04:54 Cprossu recorded with a scan convertor
04:55 tonsofpcs BatSteve: uh.... "Any valve 3rd party mod for a 3rd party release about 3 years before valve know it exists"
04:55 LeadHead It's crazy when you think of how much this thing cost new, and the fact that it's on software revision 6
04:55 tonsofpcs it's 'control suite version 6' or somesuch
04:55 tonsofpcs that doesn't mean that it's the 6th version of software for this system.
04:55 LeadHead Remends me a bit of ATI, great hardware, awful drivers
04:56 tonsofpcs I'm on version 7 of my encoder control system.  It's the first version that supports my hardware.  Version 5 was the first version.
04:56 tonsofpcs (or something close to that)
04:56 eadthem thermaltake fails http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&amp;op=Story&amp;reid=243
04:57 tonsofpcs you don't have any MPK devices, do you?
04:57 eadthem guess thats been up for a fue days :p
04:57 tonsofpcs (MPK devices include UMDs and audio meters....)
04:57 LeadHead Then again, if this was an orphaned philips device that Grass Valley bought
04:57 LeadHead it could explain some of the software
04:57 LeadHead err
04:57 LeadHead troubles
04:58 tonsofpcs from what i read, it's a thompson device that was sold through phillips
04:58 LeadHead The RCA thompson?
04:58 tonsofpcs LeadHead: it's the thompson that spun off of RCA
04:58 tonsofpcs yes
04:58 tonsofpcs that's basically GVG's base.
04:59 tonsofpcs They also bought Comark and spun out Thales and ....
04:59 LeadHead I've seen day time dramas with simpler plots than that
04:59 tonsofpcs heh
04:59 tonsofpcs day time dramas aren't designed to have complex plots.  they're designed to sell soap.
05:00 Cprossu that's good
05:00 tonsofpcs Error ID10T:  "A short circuit has occured between the chair and the keyboard.  Please replace this interconnection."
05:00 LeadHead I've gotten a few people with the id10t error before
05:01 tggmc PEBKAC
05:01 LeadHead yup
05:01 Cprossu what should we do about this saturn system table
05:01 LeadHead Burn it.
05:01 tonsofpcs save it, wipe it, recreate it?
05:01 Cprossu 20 in is wrong
05:02 tonsofpcs wait, i know what Audio12 is!
05:02 tonsofpcs it's a stereo audio layer
05:02 LeadHead This reminds me of trying to setup a Colortran Arhcitectual lighting system
05:02 tonsofpcs channels 1 and 2
05:02 tonsofpcs it's not an individual device definition
05:02 tonsofpcs the system is looking for an audio layer.
05:02 LeadHead What a mess that was
05:02 tonsofpcs it might be a dip switch
05:02 tonsofpcs Cprossu: ^^
05:02 Cprossu tggmc
05:03 Cprossu ding ding
05:03 Cprossu look up
05:03 Cprossu where is it, tonsofpcs?
05:03 tonsofpcs nfc
05:03 * tonsofpcs pulls up section 2
05:03 Cprossu that helps
05:03 tonsofpcs it might still be a config thing in software
05:03 tonsofpcs keep looking
05:03 * Cprossu has a Head On Keyboard Dump
05:03 tonsofpcs but its a LAYER that you want to remove, not a device
05:03 BatSteve time to sleep, g'night all
05:03 BatSteve is now known as BatSteve-Away
05:04 speedrunnerG55 0_o
05:04 tonsofpcs there's too many steves.
05:04 speedrunnerG55 Good night BatSteve-Away
05:04 LeadHead head on
05:04 LeadHead keyboard dump
05:05 BatSteve-Away .g ncse project Steve
05:05 BotSteve BatSteve-Away: http://ncse.com/taking-action/project-steve
05:05 tonsofpcs no clue what you're seeing
05:05 Cprossu i see
05:05 BatSteve-Away tonsofpcs: see above
05:05 tonsofpcs heh
05:06 Cprossu can you set an input next?
05:07 Cprossu ready?
05:08 Cprossu good
05:08 Cprossu this is good
05:08 Cprossu made it passed #143
05:08 Cprossu I call this ...something
05:08 Cprossu not this time
05:08 Cprossu this is a hiodge podge of crap
05:08 Cprossu that makes no sense
05:08 LeadHead Kind of like a Chevy
05:08 Cprossu the GVG made sense at least
05:09 Cprossu no it's like a renault
05:09 LeadHead oh shi-
05:09 speedrunnerG55 For some reason the stream is taking a verry long time to load
05:09 Cprossu it is online
05:09 tonsofpcs speedrunnerG55: get better interwebs
05:09 speedrunnerG55 Im on wifi.
05:09 Cprossu the main thing is we will just compile until the minimum compilable file is there
05:10 tonsofpcs can you post a picture of the back of the saturn frame(s) somewhere?
05:10 Cprossu and then we'll deal with errors
05:10 Cprossu tonsofpcs: let me get you the links
05:10 Cprossu_Laptop .log
05:10 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
05:10 tonsofpcs it's not jumpers.
05:11 tonsofpcs it's software somewhere
05:11 speedrunnerG55 Its working now
05:11 Cprossu https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/253960_1877515378533_1260690192_31904774_5051547_n.jpg?dl=1
05:11 Cprossu https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/251063_1877518618614_1260690192_31904789_2944772_n.jpg?dl=1
05:11 Cprossu https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/253912_1877518858620_1260690192_31904790_3456524_n.jpg?dl=1
05:11 Cprossu with any luck they aren't porn
05:12 LeadHead nope
05:12 LeadHead all porn
05:12 Cprossu well geek porn
05:12 LeadHead Comair Rotron
05:12 LeadHead and VxWorks
05:12 LeadHead fancy
05:12 Cprossu don't you be talking shit about my comair rotrons
05:12 tonsofpcs i dont thik any of those are what i need
05:12 Cprossu lol
05:13 LeadHead I like Comair Rotrons
05:13 tonsofpcs yea, no
05:13 tonsofpcs i want to see the backs of the frames, where the connectors are
05:13 Cprossu I thought you wanted serial numbers lol
05:13 Cprossu do you have facebook?
05:13 Cprossu and red as a friend?
05:13 Cprossu probably not =/
05:13 * speedrunnerG55 havving to leave stream to chat then have to wait for it to burrer to see it again FTL
05:14 speedrunnerG55 w/e
05:14 Cprossu ooh I know
05:14 Cprossu tonsofpcs
05:14 Cprossu go to the planning docs
05:14 LeadHead VxWorks
05:14 Cprossu they have the frame in one
05:14 LeadHead Funny, my Canon camera runs VxWorks too
05:14 tonsofpcs Cprossu: where?
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05:15 maglinvinn_home yar.
05:15 maglinvinn_home tggmc1, you still there?
05:15 maglinvinn_home lul
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05:16 LeadHead I laughed at loud
05:16 LeadHead at lul
05:16 maglinvinn_home lansing for me steve
05:16 maglinvinn_home paul is detroit
05:16 maglinvinn_home ... i work in detroit
05:16 maglinvinn_home well.  rochester
05:17 maglinvinn_home yah man
05:18 Cprossu section 2, page 47, tonsofpcs
05:18 maglinvinn_home tggmc1 GAG!  http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&amp;sugexp=ldymls&amp;xhr=t&amp;q=pelco+pt280-24p&amp;cp=10&amp;qe=cGVsY28gcHQyOA&amp;qesig=EqX8L3zajZur2j3xkZ9IcQ&amp;pkc=AFgZ2tlSTuhX5FBdz29QmAG_iXQJSSUHydf0JCbTwcub0HN0yQFQF_8abvovQp4ZPDeLI5P5rG8Hq6wujFZsF5mAM0A1HVQiAQ&amp;pq=pelco&amp;bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&amp;biw=1600&amp;bih=1010&amp;um=1&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;tbm=shop&amp;cid=4661513806100378458&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=-jT8TcHZJois0AG_5di6Aw&amp;sqi=2&amp;ved=0CDUQ8wIwAQ
05:18 Cprossu is one such page
05:18 maglinvinn_home 475 for one of these pan tilts
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05:18 maglinvinn_home HERP
05:18 Cprossu tonsofpcs: turn it 90DEG
05:19 tggmc just make it work
05:19 maglinvinn_home haha.  meanwhile, 12 lbs max load on this thing
05:20 tggmc 12 isn't too bad, but it rules out one of teh big cams, i think
05:20 maglinvinn_home mmk
05:21 Cprossu is that what you were looking for, tonsofpcs ?
05:21 Cprossu remember tggmc start at 0
05:21 Cprossu not at 1
05:21 Cprossu k
05:23 Cprossu compiled!
05:23 tonsofpcs woooot
05:23 maglinvinn_home its working?
05:23 tonsofpcs Cprossu: huh?
05:24 tonsofpcs Cprossu: i want to see which one is physically there since apparently there's a few minor variations
05:25 Cprossu there it goes
05:25 tonsofpcs tggmc: I don't care about the surrface (well, i do, just not as much)
05:25 tonsofpcs i'm talking the rear connectors on the frames
05:25 Cprossu I got kicked out tggmc
05:26 Cprossu still it's time to call it a night
05:26 Cprossu do we have a new error?
05:27 Cprossu I shall
05:28 Cprossu woot I fixed this error already somehow!
05:28 Cprossu before we got the audio error
05:28 Cprossu we got this one
05:28 Cprossu no I did
05:28 Cprossu I'll figure it out again
05:28 Cprossu I always do
05:28 maglinvinn_home tggmc  good news, i have a wiring diagram for this pan tilt.  tomorrow i'm gonna make it move
05:28 maglinvinn_home :_
05:28 Cprossu thanks it's been fun
05:28 maglinvinn_home :) even
05:29 maglinvinn_home nope
05:29 maglinvinn_home straight motors
05:29 tggmc what type og drive
05:29 maglinvinn_home blacks are grounds
05:29 maglinvinn_home colored are directiosn
05:29 maglinvinn_home yup yup
05:29 maglinvinn_home sec
05:29 maglinvinn_home http://www.global-download.schneider-electric.com/85257689000007EE/all/09FA789B898663178525775A00608126/$File/c323sm.pdf
05:29 maglinvinn_home pg 25
05:29 maglinvinn_home filters
05:30 maglinvinn_home :)
05:30 maglinvinn_home no no, go to page 25
05:30 maglinvinn_home wiring diagram on that page.
05:30 maglinvinn_home 280-24p
05:30 maglinvinn_home pan tilt wiring and explaination for this model on that link, at page 25
05:30 LeadHead Schneider electric
05:30 LeadHead fnacy
05:30 tonsofpcs maglinvinn_home: building a pulse control and using a C=64/atari controller? :D
05:31 maglinvinn_home FUCK YES!
05:31 maglinvinn_home haha
05:31 maglinvinn_home i have it built.  the N64 controller is already in one peice.
05:31 maglinvinn_home and ready for stuff to be connected, like this
05:31 maglinvinn_home and i have a nice little 2 amp 24 v siemens transformer
05:31 maglinvinn_home gantry?
05:31 maglinvinn_home yes.
05:32 maglinvinn_home i plan on making it 'net interfaced' too
05:32 maglinvinn_home i'd rather put this one on the gantry, more range of movement
05:32 maglinvinn_home a LOT more range
05:32 maglinvinn_home ... heavy though.  this thing is 12 lbs
05:32 Cprossu tggmc can you get the HW mac for the CP?
05:32 maglinvinn_home yup
05:32 maglinvinn_home MDH, HV, Studio, MAster Control
05:32 maglinvinn_home gret places for the
05:33 maglinvinn_home them*
05:33 tonsofpcs build the cable to DB25s, use old seriall switches and you can use one controller for all of em
05:34 maglinvinn_home i wanna mount arduinos in each, and hten just pass data serially
05:34 KB3NZQ 0080ce050936
05:34 Cprossu 0080CE650936 wait what?
05:34 maglinvinn_home lessen the conductor count that way
05:34 Cprossu good
05:34 tonsofpcs ......65....09...... once again ... 00 ? 02??????
05:34 Cprossu vnc is laggy
05:35 * tonsofpcs is tiredy
05:35 tonsofpcs g'nite
05:35 Cprossu 0080ce050936
05:35 Cprossu make sure it took
05:35 maglinvinn_home nitey bed time for this kid, started yesterday at 9am, and home again at 1 am.  hehehe
05:36 maglinvinn_home LOTS of tesla coil stuff
05:36 maglinvinn_home thats cuase you is the crazy sauce
05:36 tonsofpcs I was at work at 8am, got a call at 8:39 that a transmitter was off.....
05:36 tonsofpcs it was suppposed to be a short day....
05:36 maglinvinn_home hehehe
05:36 tonsofpcs I did get to run a meeting from a mountaintop
05:37 LeadHead Heh
05:37 tonsofpcs still no clue wtf took it off
05:37 LeadHead in my case
05:37 LeadHead a local cell tower here put the disconnect outside the fence
05:37 LeadHead occaional kids will go upto it
05:37 LeadHead and turn it off
05:37 tonsofpcs lol
05:37 Cprossu no mcs still
05:37 Cprossu mcs was master control system I think
05:37 tonsofpcs i had to reset it's 'brain' to get it to turn back on properly... it tried turning back on at double power....
05:37 Cprossu I just can't recall what I needed to configure
05:37 tonsofpcs while the boss might be fine with that, the FCC wouldn't like that
05:37 Cprossu well night!
05:37 LeadHead is it a tv station?
05:37 tonsofpcs anyway, g'nite
05:38 tonsofpcs LeadHead: that was a radio station
05:38 tonsofpcs FM
05:38 tonsofpcs the DTs just run.
05:38 LeadHead What's normal output?
05:38 tonsofpcs the FMs normally do too.
05:38 tonsofpcs 2.80 TPO
05:38 Cprossu ms's at .11 now, hmmm
05:38 tonsofpcs *kW TPO
05:38 LeadHead little guy
05:38 tonsofpcs idk what the ERP is at that site, it's a directional
05:38 tonsofpcs eh, everything up here (upstaate NY) is terrain limited anyway
05:39 tonsofpcs we could triple the power on our main FM and it would cover maybe an extra 10 square miles....
05:39 LeadHead Yeah
05:39 LeadHead Local rock station here is 50kw
05:39 Cprossu uh oh
05:39 LeadHead there's a station up in maine that was grandfathered in
05:39 LeadHead they're broadcasting at 100kw
05:39 Cprossu what the heck is this?
05:40 LeadHead I can occaisionally listen to them down here in RI.
05:40 tonsofpcs Cprossu: ?
05:40 KB3NZQ well i have KDKA to listen to if i wanted to
05:40 Cprossu Audio config in Master Control Description
05:40 Cprossu I should check the other config
05:40 Cprossu because I can't set it to none here
05:40 Cprossu watch
05:41 tonsofpcs I can probably get KDKA if I wanted
05:41 Cprossu let's see what our other config has in that spot
05:41 tonsofpcs g'nite
05:42 Cprossu we'll try M1 to M3
05:42 Cprossu err M2
05:42 KB3NZQ tons where do you live
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05:43 LeadHead What's KDKA?
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05:43 Speed_Laptop darn you peer
05:43 KB3NZQ AM 1020  Pittsburgh PA  100Kw
05:43 Cprossu same error
05:44 LeadHead ah
05:44 Cprossu so we try m2
05:45 KB3NZQ correction  50Kw
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05:45 KB3NZQ damn was in wrong window
05:46 Cprossu * Jupiter Firmware Release 6.2.1 *
05:46 Cprossu Saturn AVP
05:46 Cprossu Compiled Dec 17 2001 14:15:21
05:46 Cprossu My ethernet address 00:80:ce:05:01:94
05:46 Cprossu BOOTP Request for saturn.sys
05:46 Cprossu attempting BOOTP
05:46 Cprossu Sent BOOTP request...Waiting 99 ticks...Received reply.
05:46 Cprossu My IP 192.168.253.11, Server IP 192.168.253.1
05:46 Cprossu 00:00:00:00 (tRootTask): GetChannelExistance: mcsDescTable[0].Audio12 undefined.
05:46 Cprossu Starting board, entry point: 0x87ccaa
05:46 Cprossu interrupt: Sync appears to be valid.
05:46 Cprossu 00:00:00:04 (tStartBoard): GetChannelExistance: Table[0].Audio12 undefined.
05:46 Cprossu 00:00:01:14 (upmx): getMem() - attempt to get zero length buffer
05:46 Cprossu 00:00:01:16 (upmx): getMem() - attempt to get zero length buffer
05:46 Cprossu and
05:46 Cprossu * Jupiter Firmware Release 6.2.1 *
05:46 Cprossu Saturn AVP
05:46 Cprossu Compiled Dec 17 2001 14:15:21
05:46 Cprossu My ethernet address 00:80:ce:05:01:94
05:46 Cprossu BOOTP Request for saturn.sys
05:46 Cprossu attempting BOOTP
05:46 Cprossu Sent BOOTP request...Waiting 99 ticks...Received reply.
05:46 Cprossu My IP 192.168.253.11, Server IP 192.168.253.1
05:46 Cprossu 00:00:00:00 (tRootTask): GetChannelExistance: mcsDescTable[0].Audio12 undefined.
05:46 Cprossu Starting board, entry point: 0x87ccaa
05:46 Cprossu interrupt: Sync appears to be valid.
05:46 Cprossu 00:00:00:04 (tStartBoard): GetChannelExistance: Table[0].Audio12 undefined.
05:47 Speed_Laptop o_o
05:48 Cprossu 00:00:01:14 (upmx): getMem() - attempt to get zero length buffer
05:48 Cprossu 00:00:01:15 (upmx): getMem() - attempt to get zero length buffer
05:48 Cprossu Analog> 00:00:04:08 (tAutx): Auto Defeat enabled.
05:48 Cprossu Bus Error
05:48 Cprossu Program Counter: 0x0091fe32
05:48 Cprossu Status Register: 0x42a5
05:48 Cprossu Task: 0xf79d4 "tSdlg"
05:48 Cprossu 00:00:04:16 ERROR (tSdlg): Exception Occurred: vector 0xff000002
05:48 Cprossu * Jupiter Firmware Release 6.2.1 *
05:49 Cprossu_Laptop ok that's the full of the 2 dumps
05:49 tonsofpcs so try and find "mcsDescTable"
05:49 Cprossu_Laptop good idea
05:49 Cprossu_Laptop let me see if I can transfer our config over
05:49 tonsofpcs oh, is it a text file?
05:53 Cprossu holy fuck
05:54 Cprossu let me zip this mess up for you tonsofpcs
05:55 speedrunnerG55 Lol zip
05:56 Cprossu http://www.2shared.com/file/oXMZ8B5-/cfgold.html
05:57 tonsofpcs 7 KB? You expect me to have 7KB of free space?  *checks df*
05:57 Cprossu so many 0k files
05:57 astro73|derrial i think i just blew a kid's mind by telling him that 3*3 = 3^2
05:57 Cprossu lol
05:57 tonsofpcs oh, wow, that last apt cleanup actually netted me 100 MB
05:57 * tonsofpcs is on an eeepc with a 4 GB SSD
05:58 LeadHead That hurts
05:58 tonsofpcs also, WTF, a 7KB ZIP with 4 KB of data in it?
05:58 Cprossu yeah I know
05:58 LeadHead lol compression taking up more space
05:58 Cprossu I did it to consolodate the mess
05:58 Cprossu at least these are plaintext
05:59 LeadHead Reminds me of the battlefield 3 20 minute trailer
05:59 LeadHead 1.4GB H.264
05:59 LeadHead EA zipped it.
05:59 tonsofpcs it's not in mcs_desc
05:59 LeadHead zip size was like 1.39 GB
05:59 tonsofpcs I really need to see the back of this box...
05:59 Cprossu and not in VGA-DESC.VGA either
05:59 LeadHead Unzipping 1.4GB is not fun on a dual core opteron
06:00 tonsofpcs couldn't you just grep it?
06:00 Cprossu didn't you see the back of the frame
06:00 Cprossu on section 2?
06:00 Cprossu page 47
06:00 tonsofpcs are we 100% sure that that matches 100%?
06:01 tonsofpcs and aren't there two frames?
06:01 Cprossu not that I know of
06:01 Cprossu we have a frame and the control board
06:01 Cprossu the M-2100 had more parts to it
06:01 Cprossu but the saturn only has these
06:02 Cprossu MCC-3500 is the control surface and AVP-3500 or whatever is the frame
06:02 Cprossu we do not have the AAP-3500 frame.
06:02 tonsofpcs url again?
06:03 Nazzy do you have an NCC-1701 there?
06:03 tonsofpcs no
06:03 tonsofpcs I have a shuttlecraft CD case around here somewher
06:03 Cprossu http://www.grassvalley.com/apps/doc_show?&amp;set=mcontrol&amp;c=Saturn|Saturn%20Master%20Control%20System&super=broadcast
06:03 Cprossu section 2
06:04 * Speed_Laptop is on a pavilion with 512 mb ddr ram
06:04 Cprossu page 47
06:04 Nazzy shame... I would imagine a warp core would make a really good HV supply
06:04 tonsofpcs Cprossu: if that's the frame, then it has audio.
06:05 Cprossu hrmmmm
06:05 Cprossu kicked out
06:05 Cprossu =(
06:05 LeadHead why?
06:06 Cprossu bad software
06:06 LeadHead I mean
06:06 Cprossu but at least it got through the nats
06:06 LeadHead what kicked you tout
06:06 LeadHead VNC?
06:06 tonsofpcs bad softwre.
06:06 Cprossu no we're using something that makes it work behind a nat...or 2..or 3
06:06 LeadHead oh
06:06 Cprossu either way it served it's purpose
06:07 LeadHead did it have a time out
06:07 Cprossu and I managed to transfer the files over
06:07 LeadHead or something
06:07 tonsofpcs i thnk it's complaining about lack of sync
06:07 LeadHead or was it a trial/demo
06:07 LeadHead oh
06:07 Cprossu so we could look at what a config does
06:07 Cprossu it was a config
06:07 Cprossu you think lack of an AES sync for the audio?
06:07 tonsofpcs if that's the frame, the reference video needs to go into the bottom "REF", then a cable from the "REF" above it to the top "REF"
06:07 tonsofpcs Cprossu: if that's the frame.
06:07 Cprossu no it doesn't need it for the AVP-3500
06:08 Cprossu they grouped the DVP and the AVP on the same document, tonsofpcs
06:08 tonsofpcs this is why i want to see the back of what is really there
06:08 tonsofpcs because there's like 80 variations
06:08 tonsofpcs anyhway, it's 0210
06:08 tonsofpcs g'nite :)
06:08 tonsofpcs srsly
06:08 Cprossu I am going to bed too
06:08 Cprossu night!
06:08 Cprossu and thanks for everything
06:09 LeadHead Awfully early, Cprossu
06:09 Speed_Laptop night Cprossu
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06:10 Speed_Laptop night tonsofpcs
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06:13 * egrsteve is home
06:13 Speed_Laptop hi egrsteve
06:13 Speed_Laptop WB
06:14 egrsteve thanks
06:17 LeadHead "World’s Worst Driver Allegedly Crashed While Drunk, Having Sex in the Backseat"
06:19 Speed_Laptop how are you driving wile in the back seat?
06:19 Speed_Laptop lol
06:20 egrsteve cruse control?
06:21 Speed_Laptop oh.
06:21 egrsteve you only need one toe on the wheel at that point
06:23 astro73|derrial like that's gonna stay that way
06:23 Obtuse_ lol
06:25 LeadHead Heh
06:28 LeadHead I got a buddy who can drive
06:28 LeadHead and eat yogurt
06:28 LeadHead with one hand out the window
06:29 LeadHead He's mastered knee-driving.
06:39 Speed_Laptop super mario galaxy 1-2 sound track <3
06:52 wannabe1987 night
06:52 Speed_Laptop night wannabe
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07:09 Cprossu egrsteve : didn't get very far
07:10 egrsteve i got home
07:10 Cprossu took a break from my computer heated room to sit in front of my '59 or so eskimo box fan
07:10 egrsteve you get anything else
07:10 Cprossu actually yes
07:10 Cprossu the config "files" are plaintext... but MANY
07:11 Cprossu http://www.2shared.com/file/oXMZ8B5-/cfgold.html
07:11 Cprossu here's our most complete one
07:11 Cprossu and it's directory and file structure...
07:11 Cprossu boggles the mind
07:11 Cprossu in it's complication of the simple
07:12 Cprossu tonsofpcs says it has audio built in
07:12 Cprossu somehow
07:13 Cprossu and that it might be looking for the AES ref
07:13 Cprossu whatever the hell that means
07:13 Cprossu but he needs clear images of the back of the frame
07:13 Cprossu with all the connections
07:13 Cprossu because of all the different possible configurations
07:14 egrsteve ah ok, there is a clear pic on FB
07:14 egrsteve I will have to find it
07:14 Cprossu k
07:14 Cprossu btw curiously each interface
07:14 Cprossu seems to get it's own folder
07:15 LeadHead perhaps each interface module
07:15 LeadHead acts independently?
07:15 Cprossu LeadHead: did you look in the file?
07:15 LeadHead nope
07:15 Cprossu do it
07:15 LeadHead link?
07:15 LeadHead Also, how often would you oil a fan
07:15 LeadHead in 24/7 duty
07:15 Cprossu http://www.2shared.com/file/oXMZ8B5-/cfgold.html
07:15 LeadHead I don't want my Hunter to seize up
07:15 egrsteve https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/251025_1877519058625_1260690192_31904791_2602642_n.jpg?dl=1
07:15 LeadHead in the middle of hte night
07:16 LeadHead refrence
07:16 Cprossu I oil mine every month, 3 drops whether it needs it or not
07:16 LeadHead ah
07:16 Cprossu if running 24x7 every week 1 drop
07:16 Cprossu on each side of course
07:16 Cprossu xD
07:16 Cprossu btw by 3 drops I mean 3 drops per side
07:16 egrsteve other then the lan connection and the other powersuppy that is the surface
07:17 Cprossu in the case of my eskimo
07:17 egrsteve tonsofpcs https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/251025_1877519058625_1260690192_31904791_2602642_n.jpg?dl=1
07:17 Speed_Laptop is now known as speedrunnerG55
07:17 Cprossu wow
07:17 Cprossu it's entirely different from the manuals
07:18 egrsteve ya
07:18 Cprossu where are all the video connections?
07:18 speedrunnerG55 ##electronics
07:18 LeadHead MPK DC power?
07:18 egrsteve this is the desk unit not the frame
07:18 Cprossu also this is the frame, not the control surface right, egrsteve?
07:18 Cprossu ok
07:19 egrsteve this is the frame https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/252400_1877516378558_1260690192_31904778_4783553_n.jpg?dl=1
07:19 * speedrunnerG55 steps into ##electronics
07:19 egrsteve yes. first link control, second frame
07:19 Cprossu ahhh ok
07:19 egrsteve frame close up https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/260006_1877516818569_1260690192_31904779_6586003_n.jpg?dl=1
07:20 egrsteve the white sticker by the powe switch is the mac address
07:20 LeadHead What's MPK?
07:21 egrsteve it's some type of data bus
07:21 LeadHead does it need to be connected to the MPK port on the desk?
07:21 egrsteve yes it does
07:22 LeadHead ah
07:22 Cprossu so in 0-15
07:22 Cprossu on the top row of bnc's
07:22 LeadHead and the desk also has an ethernet connection?
07:22 egrsteve and the software need to know what frame the desk is on
07:22 egrsteve yes also lan on desk
07:22 LeadHead Weird setup
07:22 egrsteve top row is 0-15
07:22 Cprossu so wht does ISO mean?
07:22 egrsteve bottom has ISOs, keys and outs
07:22 LeadHead isolators?
07:23 LeadHead probably not
07:23 Cprossu I don't know so I ask!
07:23 egrsteve as best as I can tell it has to do with key alpha channels
07:23 LeadHead oh
07:23 LeadHead Isn't alpha like transparency
07:23 LeadHead and stuff like that
07:23 egrsteve it's the transparancy level for a second signal
07:23 LeadHead ah
07:23 Cprossu what the hell is "TE" and "PE"
07:24 egrsteve PE potential earth
07:24 egrsteve TE, no idea
07:24 LeadHead It's weird, based on how much configuration
07:24 egrsteve it's a fround
07:24 LeadHead the software has
07:24 Cprossu probably for a UPS
07:24 LeadHead I figured that the frame it self
07:24 LeadHead would be slightly more modular
07:24 Cprossu or battery backup
07:24 egrsteve the frames are modular, may systems will have may frames of diff types
07:25 LeadHead I meant
07:25 Cprossu so PGM ports, hmm
07:25 egrsteve serial frames, tally frames, audio, video ect
07:25 LeadHead as in the frame itself
07:25 LeadHead would be modular
07:25 LeadHead add/remove differen't components
07:25 LeadHead etc..
07:25 Cprossu dies ibe if thost ports say "BYPASS"
07:25 Cprossu ughhh
07:25 egrsteve ah, no, that would be very difficultt, although the GVG/TEK one has cards
07:26 Cprossu I totally borked that
07:26 egrsteve cprossu, translation please
07:26 Cprossu does one of those ports say "BYPASS"?
07:26 LeadHead Borked = Fucked
07:27 egrsteve yes, one the frame there is a bypass BNC
07:27 LeadHead Now, you guys have an SDI frame for this too
07:27 LeadHead right
07:27 egrsteve correct, and a second desk
07:27 Cprossu for the saturn?
07:27 egrsteve less one keycap
07:27 LeadHead can one desk, control two frames?
07:27 egrsteve yes a second saturn desk
07:28 egrsteve one desk can control about 15 frames
07:28 Cprossu so we do have more saturn stuff than I thought then
07:28 LeadHead So what is there, like buttons you push on the desk
07:28 egrsteve we have 2 systems
07:28 LeadHead to select which frame
07:28 egrsteve correct
07:28 Cprossu that means we have a DVP 3500, a AVP 3500 and two MCC 3500's?
07:28 egrsteve and then the legends should update
07:28 egrsteve yes cprossu
07:28 LeadHead So if you guys found an analog to SDI converter/vice versa
07:29 LeadHead you could control SDI and analog cameras
07:29 LeadHead from that one desk
07:29 Cprossu LeadHead: if we found an analog to SDI converter we could justuse the M-2100
07:29 egrsteve correct, but the signal flows would be seperate
07:29 LeadHead True dat.
07:29 LeadHead What's more powerful though?
07:29 Cprossu the M-2100
07:29 LeadHead The M-2100 or the Saturn?
07:29 Cprossu hands down
07:29 egrsteve the M21 is more modern
07:30 egrsteve *M-2100
07:30 LeadHead Better software too, I bet?
07:30 egrsteve and FPGA based
07:30 Cprossu and it has a bunch of goodies on it
07:30 egrsteve ya, I had it working in an evening
07:30 Cprossu the software, the software actually WORKED
07:30 Cprossu he really didn't have to screw with it
07:30 Cprossu he followed the documentation and it worked
07:30 LeadHead Gotta love it
07:31 Cprossu as far as we know
07:31 LeadHead What's up with those power connection on the frame
07:31 egrsteve you just uplinked the config no compiling or other complexity
07:31 LeadHead aux power or test points?
07:31 egrsteve redundent input I think
07:31 egrsteve IE battery or external supply
07:31 LeadHead ah
07:32 Cprossu I'm going to dig through the dip switch configs
07:32 Cprossu from glancing over the manual
07:32 egrsteve ok, I'm going to get some sleep
07:32 Cprossu you'd thing there's 1000 fucking dip switches in it
07:33 egrsteve the desk has one set of 8 ish that I was, I don't know about the frame though
07:33 LeadHead You'd think with how much this thing relies on software
07:33 LeadHead those dipswitches would be set within software
07:33 LeadHead well would have software equivalents
07:34 Cprossu well that explains it
07:35 egrsteve you would think so, mybe tgg should develop useable broadcast swithing gear
07:35 Cprossu the RPP 3500 was a purpose built redundant psu
07:35 Cprossu 8v, gnd, -11v, agnd, and +11v
07:35 egrsteve there you go, second power supply
07:35 LeadHead Fancy that
07:35 LeadHead bastards
07:35 LeadHead -11. +11
07:35 LeadHead 8v
07:36 egrsteve night all
07:36 LeadHead had they used -12, +12 and 5v
07:36 LeadHead a normal PC PSU would have worked
07:36 LeadHead night
07:36 Cprossu oh god
07:36 Cprossu oh godddd
07:36 Cprossu it has rotary switches too
07:36 LeadHead oh lord have mercy
07:37 Cprossu "Rotary DIP switch"
07:37 speedrunnerG55 o_o
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07:46 Cprossu BotSteve: tell egrsteve Although the AVP3500 does not require sync, for some reason the MCC 3500 control console requires 'looping video sync'
07:46 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
07:48 Cprossu BotSteve: tell tonsofpcs I was entirely wrong, the config you need to look at is on page 73 of section 2.
07:48 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when tonsofpcs is around.
07:49 Cprossu BotSteve: tell tonsofpcs Also we have 2 MCC 3500's a AVP 3500, a DVP 3500, and a partridge in a pear tree
07:49 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when tonsofpcs is around.
07:59 Cprossu BotSteve: tell captainboden The fucking saturn even has 'Rotary Dip Switches' to compliment it's full series of regular dip switches and jumpers and power supply setting switches that can be used in a pinch as emergency magic smoke relief valves.
07:59 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when captainboden is around.
07:59 LeadHead ESR valves
08:00 Cprossu no those are electrolytic caps
08:01 Cprossu *badly made electrolytic caps
08:01 LeadHead Hmm?
08:01 Cprossu you said ESR valves
08:01 LeadHead EMSR Valves then
08:01 LeadHead happy now?
08:01 Cprossu yes
08:01 Cprossu Trip the EMSRV's
08:01 Cprossu she's gonna blow
08:01 LeadHead Can't get the smoke back in
08:01 LeadHead unfortunately
08:01 Cprossu or just MSRV would probably do too
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08:02 Cprossu night LeadHead
08:03 Cprossu BotSteve: tell leadhead "something". (because I already used 'tell' on everyone else)\
08:03 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when leadhead is around.
08:03 LeadHead Damn it feels good to be a gangster
08:03 BotSteve LeadHead: I have the following messages for you:
08:03 BotSteve At 08:03Z, Cprossu asked me to tell LeadHead "something". (because I already used 'tell' on everyone else)\
08:04 LeadHead night
08:04 LeadHead It's 4AM here
08:04 LeadHead I'm so tired that "SpongeBob" is now hilarious
08:04 LeadHead been watching episodes for the past hour
08:05 Cprossu BotSteve: tell tggmc BLORKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK! (at the time of this post, said post author downed one Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster, the effect of which was like having his brain smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick.)
08:05 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when tggmc is around.
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08:16 * speedrunnerG55 falls asleep
08:16 speedrunnerG55 ZZZzzzZZZzzzZZZzz
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08:24 Cprossu BotSteve: tell speedrunnerG55 sorry for saying I 'BotSteve: tell'ed everyone without including you
08:24 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when speedrunnerG55 is around.
08:24 Cprossu BotSteve: tell BatSteve GRUUUEEEEEEEEEE!
08:24 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
08:25 Cprossu BotSteve: tell BotSteve Didn't I try this already once?
08:25 BotSteve Sorry, I'm supposed to ignore any voices I hear in my head.
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08:32 Cprossu BotSteve: tell Python check this shit out -> http://www.2shared.com/file/oXMZ8B5-/cfgold.html <-this is how our video switcher software makes it's config files....
08:32 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when Python is around.
08:33 Cprossu BotSteve: tell Sgt_Lemming Thank you for participating in this shared psychotic episode
08:33 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when Sgt_Lemming is around.
08:35 Cprossu BotSteve: tell NeWtoz I can't think of anything funny for botsteve to tell you
08:35 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when NeWtoz is around.
08:35 Cprossu BotSteve: tell redhome We're glad you're back home <3
08:35 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when redhome is around.
08:35 Cprossu BotSteve: tell tggRED: We're glad you're back at the lab <3
08:35 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when tggRED is around.
08:36 Cprossu BotSteve: tell wannabe1987 I didn't forget about you when I was BotSteve: tell'ing everyone :)
08:36 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when wannabe1987 is around.
08:37 Cprossu BotSteve: tell ChanServ: OMG CHANSERV SPOKE
08:37 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when ChanServ is around.
08:38 Cprossu BotSteve: tell Psi I nearly forgot to tell you a message in the bot abuse I did before going asleep
08:38 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when Psi is around.
08:38 Cprossu BotSteve: tell Cprossu You'll be sorry when you wake up
08:38 BotSteve You can tell yourself that.
08:39 Cprossu the hell I can't...
08:39 Cprossu_Laptop BotSteve: tell Cprossu You'll be sorry when you wake up
08:39 BotSteve Cprossu_Laptop: I'll pass that on when Cprossu is around.
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08:59 MadManMarkAu Oh God...
08:59 MadManMarkAu On a Tesla coil video, I see this comment:
08:59 MadManMarkAu where do u store that energy?..and how fast do u store!...dont want to pay money for energy!!
08:59 MadManMarkAu NRRRGH! MUST! VOTE! DOWN! MORE!
09:01 MadManMarkAu "besides ozone, have you experienced any local weather anomalies? Also, have you experimented w/electricity from the earth?"
09:08 MadManMarkAu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al_nqxSgIz4
09:08 MadManMarkAu ^-- All these WONDERFUL comments...
09:09 MadManMarkAu My God, Free Energy people are fucking retards
09:11 MadManMarkAu "We can use it to produce OZONE because our O3 layer is depleting, causing us to have skin cancer."
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09:27 Sgt_Lemming wtf Cprossu?
09:27 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: I have the following messages for you:
09:27 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: I have the following messages for you:
09:27 BotSteve At 08:33Z, Cprossu asked me to tell Sgt_Lemming Thank you for participating in this shared psychotic episode
09:27 Sgt_Lemming wtf BotSteve?
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09:55 MadManMarkAu BotSteve: tell Cprossu that you are a fucking nutcase <3
09:55 BotSteve MadManMarkAu: I'll pass that on when Cprossu is around.
10:37 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: hmw on Your Geek book shelf, list your geeky books.
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12:22 Seroster Arrr!
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13:18 Ponko92 hello all
13:25 Ponko92 Cprossu chat is dead without me doing anything
13:26 masterofmonks pfffffft
13:26 * masterofmonks pours ice water in Seroster's lap.
13:26 Seroster Piss off fucknut.
13:27 masterofmonks See Ponko92 you just have to know who to poke.
13:27 Ponko92 ahhh well i do now ;)
13:29 masterofmonks Then again you are about 5 hours ahead of the east coast of the U.S. and most people are still asleep after whatever epic friday night events they had planned.
13:33 Ponko92 yeah well if they had the friday plans my mates had then they might not be up till the time it is NOW HERE? lol
13:38 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:
13:38 BotSteve Captain's Blog 6-17-11 GE Medical X-Ray Variac System http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0tUSISqI6I
13:39 Ponko92 yippee XD
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13:50 Ponko92 speaking of epic fridays i remember once starting from 5Pm and finishing at 7am
13:50 Ponko92 i had a football game and i was immaculate but i actually don't remember going to the football game
13:51 Ponko92 no i remember getting the call 1 hour before that there was a friendly game and well idk remember the playing bit
13:52 Ponko92 i might have me some MADDEN ELEVEN
13:53 Ponko92 sorry MADDEN NFL ELEVEN
13:53 Ponko92 lol
13:54 Ponko92 masterofmonks save me......
13:55 Ponko92 or the chat which ever lol
13:56 masterofmonks I don't do sports.
13:57 Ponko92 lol well just save chat or give out the Gatorade lol
13:59 Ponko92 or the H20
13:59 Ponko92 H2O sorry
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14:36 Ponko92 LeadHead is here everything is fine now :)
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14:38 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Tysk on Captain's Blog: Tesla Coil Tuning
14:38 mashpriborintorg hello geeks
14:41 Ponko92 hello :)
14:42 masterofmonks mashpriborintorg: you have saved Ponko92 from death via self entertainment.
14:42 Ponko92 lol that he has
14:43 mashpriborintorg lol
14:43 Ponko92 there IS a way i could entertain myself but i need my fiancee here
14:44 Ponko92 well it would entertain her too but thats not the point
14:44 mashpriborintorg if fiancee not here, screwdrivers and a pile of scrap electronics are enough for me
14:45 Ponko92 hmmm i need a garage or work space and a car for salvage i'd take EVERY part off
14:45 Phu afternoon all :)
14:46 Ponko92 afternoon Phu
14:46 * Ponko92 tips cap at phu
14:46 * Phu does likewise to Ponko
14:46 mashpriborintorg but for now I have to work, I am passing a contest for becoming a technician at science university, and I succeed to the first part, without preparing it at all
14:47 mashpriborintorg next step is thursday, practical exercice and discussion with a jury
14:48 Ponko92 ah yes i have football practice at 6pm
14:48 LeadHead whos parking lot is that
14:48 mashpriborintorg I'm fed up with my actual job and it may be a great opportunity
14:48 LeadHead in the stream
14:48 Ponko92 then a game at 12 then training again at 3-6 so tomoz is busy for me
14:48 mashpriborintorg the church one
14:48 mashpriborintorg sometimes there's a serial killar van on it
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14:49 mashpriborintorg Ponko92: I would gladly take apart a Toyota Prius
14:49 Ponko92 me too
14:50 mashpriborintorg found the service manual for it, incredible,  there is more than 100 different kinds of electrical connectors
14:51 * Ponko92 nods
14:51 SparkyProjects Ponko, it's fine to take it all apart, but could you put it back together
14:51 SparkyProjects Over my younger years i have virtually rebuilt a complete Triumph Herald, at one time i reuilt the engine, another time i swapped the chassis which onvolved taking everything off one chassis and putting it on the other, and keeping the orignal body, the chassis change took me a week
14:51 Ponko92 thats true i mean as a petrol head idl the Prius but as mechanic i thinks its an innovation and i'd gladly take a hybrid sports car
14:52 Ponko92 yeah but i'd be selling the parts Sparky
14:52 mashpriborintorg I'm not too interested in petrol engines tho
14:52 Ponko92 if i didn't have a need for them of course
14:53 Ponko92 yeah i like the new Hybrids Porsche are coming out with
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15:07 Cprossu good morning
15:07 BotSteve Cprossu: I have the following messages for you:
15:07 BotSteve At 08:39Z, Cprossu_Laptop asked me to tell Cprossu You'll be sorry when you wake up
15:07 BotSteve At 09:55Z, MadManMarkAu asked me to tell Cprossu that you are a fucking nutcase <3
15:08 Phu afternoon cprossu :)
15:08 Cprossu oh crap. I really did do that
15:08 LeadHead Heh
15:08 Phu hehe
15:08 LeadHead I was up to 4 AM watching Sponge Bob
15:08 LeadHead funny shit ever at 4 AM
15:08 LeadHead *funniest
15:08 Phu Cprossu: in amongst your rampant vpn-based equipment fixing, did you notice I got the libretto online at last?
15:08 Cprossu I probably have bags under my eyes
15:08 Cprossu and no I didn't
15:08 Cprossu cool!
15:09 Cprossu what kind of wifi card are you using? prism?
15:09 Phu D-Link DWL-G650 PCMCIA
15:09 Phu-Libretto Afternoon ;)
15:10 Cprossu yeah prismII!
15:10 tonsofpcs morning
15:10 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I have the following messages for you:
15:10 BotSteve At 07:48Z, Cprossu asked me to tell tonsofpcs I was entirely wrong, the config you need to look at is on page 73 of section 2.
15:10 LeadHead Que es Libretto
15:10 BotSteve At 07:49Z, Cprossu asked me to tell tonsofpcs Also we have 2 MCC 3500's a AVP 3500, a DVP 3500, and a partridge in a pear tree
15:10 tonsofpcs can you use the partridge to help automate the master control system?
15:10 Cprossu no
15:11 Phu you need a TURTL DUV for that.
15:11 tonsofpcs or does he play songs with the rest of his family?
15:11 Cprossu we need the MCU for that, tonsofpcs
15:11 Cprossu it's still on rs-422 though
15:11 tonsofpcs anyway, i REALLY need to finish cleaning the kitchen, gonna leave eeepc on in here, should I hook up audio too?
15:11 tonsofpcs rs422 <> rs232 is like $5 in parts
15:12 Cprossu yeah but what I meant is the control unit outputs in rs422
15:12 Cprossu and it's a seperate frame
15:12 Phu a 5-way cable, a 5-pin star DIN, and 9-pin D connector does RS422/3 to RS232
15:12 Cprossu on the ethernet
15:13 Sgt_Lemming Phu, what sort of Libretto did you get?
15:13 Cprossu tonsofpcs: http://www.grassvalley.com/docs/Manuals/mcontrol/saturn/04-046654-002/2hardwr.pdf page 73
15:13 Sgt_Lemming 50ct?
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15:13 Cprossu Phu: install netstumber on it!
15:14 Cprossu no it's a 100CT I think he said
15:14 Phu ironically, I'm playing Lemmings, so I had to wait until an opportune moment to pause to answer uh.. Sgt_Lemming ;)
15:14 Cprossu or perhaps a 110
15:14 Phu its a 100CT
15:14 Sgt_Lemming ooh nice
15:14 Cprossu Phu: get netstumbler on that thing heheheh
15:14 Sgt_Lemming I've often considered nabbing one off ebay
15:14 tonsofpcs Phu: huh? 422 is different voltages.
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15:14 Phu that is a distinct possibility ;)
15:14 Sgt_Lemming that or of the little fujitsu ones
15:15 Sgt_Lemming one*
15:15 Phu tonsofpcs: it is, but most PC RS232 ports are 5/0V tolerant
15:15 Druidic_Rifleman mornign geeks
15:15 tonsofpcs Phu: right, but the 422 ports aren't.
15:15 asnopus Morning
15:15 Phu and will treat <3V = 0, and >4V as 1. Most 422/423 ports I've see are also +/- 10V tolerant using clamp diodes.
15:15 Phu your mileage will vary of course.
15:15 tonsofpcs Phu: I was surprised to find that not only do our relatively new HP desktops have RS232 ports, but the UART in them is switchable _on the fly_ to proper 422 mode.
15:16 Sgt_Lemming nice
15:16 Sgt_Lemming that's pretty fucking awesome!
15:16 tonsofpcs yea, unfortunately they're the desktops that were given to people doing mundane office tasks and I got the ones without 232 ports for systems use.....
15:17 Sgt_Lemming rofl!
15:17 Phu god damnit. I'm playing Lemmings on an A5000 with a a quadrature encoding mouse that has a button that does not register 30% of the time.
15:17 Phu its making the game harder!
15:17 Sgt_Lemming heh
15:18 tonsofpcs Phu: an A5000?
15:18 speedrunnerG55_ Hi tonsofpcs
15:18 speedrunnerG55_ Ponko92:!!
15:18 * speedrunnerG55_ hollas
15:18 speedrunnerG55_ Can someone cut off my tail. I think im becomming ape
15:18 tonsofpcs hi
15:18 Ponko92 oh god
15:18 Phu tonsofpcs: Acorn Archimedes A5000 with 33Mhz Arm3 CPU and 4Mb of RAM :)
15:18 tonsofpcs also, you're too laggy for IRC, no wonder video never works for you
15:18 * Ponko92 pulls out katana slices tail off
15:19 tonsofpcs speedrunnerG55_: 'get optimum'
15:20 tonsofpcs Cprossu: just the internal 15 input matrix then?
15:20 tonsofpcs Cprossu: should I set up so I can hear tgg or no?
15:20 Sgt_Lemming night all
15:20 Cprossu yes, tonsofpcs
15:21 Cprossu on the input matrix
15:21 Cprossu and there's nothing to hear on the stream yet, tonsofpcs
15:21 tonsofpcs k
15:22 tonsofpcs gonna stick this over by the tv so the cables aren't in the way
15:26 Ponko92 yo speedy is your other alias dead yet
15:28 Cprossu I wonder what those easyups are setup for
15:30 speedrunnerG55_ I do have optimum
15:30 tonsofpcs .... I love NY... I have 4 giant trash bags full of bottles and cans becaause if I throw them out outside, there will always be people digging through the dumpster.......
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15:30 BotSteve ****Attention on deck!  Captain on the bridge!****
15:31 Phu afternoon Mr Boden
15:32 CaptainBoden hi guys
15:32 BotSteve CaptainBoden: I have the following messages for you:
15:32 BotSteve At 07:59Z, Cprossu asked me to tell CaptainBoden The fucking saturn even has 'Rotary Dip Switches' to compliment it's full series of regular dip switches and jumpers and power supply setting switches that can be used in a pinch as emergency magic smoke relief valves.
15:32 tonsofpcs lol
15:32 CaptainBoden but does it WORK yet
15:33 Cprossu no
15:33 CaptainBoden fuck
15:33 Cprossu it's choking on the "audio" settings
15:33 CaptainBoden it doesn't HAVE an audio unit
15:33 Cprossu exactly.
15:34 Cprossu and there's a convoluted setting to "un-define it
15:34 Cprossu somewhere
15:34 CaptainBoden sort it out :) I want that console working
15:34 Cprossu I've been working on it
15:34 CaptainBoden cool
15:34 Cprossu but it's very difficult
15:34 CaptainBoden There's THREE new videos out this morning.
15:34 Cprossu can you see if you can get your computer guys to set me up
15:35 Cprossu some sort of remote in
15:35 Cprossu that I can relog into
15:35 Cprossu easily
15:35 CaptainBoden There's nobody there right now
15:35 Ponko92 ooo hai Cap didn't see you come on :)
15:35 Cprossu ahh
15:35 Cprossu also
15:35 Cprossu CaptainBoden: when you get in
15:35 Cprossu do any of those control panels (with the variacs) still have a GE DWG number on them?
15:35 CaptainBoden Cory's on assignment, there's an away team to Kzoo, kidwell/eakin headed home, and I'm running conduit.
15:36 Cprossu because everything I find points to a GE ADVANTX system of some sort
15:36 CaptainBoden I posted a video on exactly that last night
15:36 CaptainBoden or, this morning
15:36 CaptainBoden brb
15:36 Cprossu that's just the stack itself
15:36 Cprossu not the frame
15:36 Phu tgg is an infinite fitting of conduit
15:36 Cprossu everything I am finding you can't google the parts numbers inside the unit
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15:37 Cprossu so my plan of attack is to ID the big unit and get it's service manual
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15:37 CaptainBoden good luck, I don't have those numbers
15:38 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:
15:38 BotSteve Captain's Blog 6-17-11 Awesome Saturday of fun with High Voltage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsdiySqC2dA
15:38 speedrunnerG55_ tonsofpcs: I do
15:38 speedrunnerG55_ And for some reason nickserv isnt letting me fix my name :(
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15:42 tonsofpcs speedrunnerG55_: get a replacement modem.  also, /quote nickserv identify speedrunnerG55 password   then /nick speedrunnerG55
15:45 wannabe1987 what does /quote do?
15:45 BotSteve wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
15:45 BotSteve At 08:36Z, Cprossu asked me to tell wannabe1987 I didn't forget about you when I was BotSteve: tell'ing everyone :)
15:46 wannabe1987 BotSteve tell Cprossu that i have no clue what he's going on about
15:46 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: sends the message directly to the irc server
15:46 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell Cprossu that i have no clue what he's going on about
15:46 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when Cprossu is around.
15:46 wannabe1987 stupid syntax
15:46 * Phu installs netstumbler on the libretto, as per cprossu's suggestion ;)
15:47 tonsofpcs libretto?  is that a specific brand of ebook reader or a generic term or am I entirely off base?
15:47 Ponko92 brb
15:47 tonsofpcs also, do twizzlers ever go bad?
15:48 speedrunnerG55_ Why tonsofpcs. Ipv6?
15:48 Phu-Libretto tonsofpcs: neither.its the name of toshiba's range of really tiny laptops
15:48 wannabe1987 no
15:48 speedrunnerG55_ And what does /quote do?
15:48 wannabe1987 i dont think they do
15:49 Phu-Libretto speedrunnerG55_: /quote sends a direct IRC command to the server
15:50 Phu-Libretto it can do some obscure things that your irc client can't do directly, if you're familiar with the IRCII protocol
15:51 Cprossu tonsofpcs : depends on the kind
15:51 BotSteve Cprossu: I have the following messages for you:
15:51 BotSteve At 15:46Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell Cprossu that i have no clue what he's going on about
15:51 speedrunnerG55_ Im not
15:51 tonsofpcs Cprossu: strawberry (artificial) standard twizzlers.
15:51 Cprossu I don't think those do
15:52 tonsofpcs yea, me neither
15:52 tonsofpcs *puts them back*
15:52 speedrunnerG55_ Still wont let me /nick nick
15:52 Cprossu the pull & peels though, are another story
15:52 tonsofpcs speedrunnerG55_: did you identify for your real nick?
15:52 tonsofpcs pull and peels go bad like 2 weeks after they're made
15:52 speedrunnerG55_ Yes
15:52 Cprossu also wannabe1987 : I went on a bot abusive rapage last night
15:52 speedrunnerG55_ It didnt messqge me back anythung
15:52 Cprossu due to frustration
15:52 * tonsofpcs found 3 sealed altoids tins
15:52 tonsofpcs speedrunnerG55_: check your 'server' window
15:52 wannabe1987 ic
15:53 tonsofpcs including one from when callard and bowser waas in rye
15:53 speedrunnerG55_ ...where is that? Hmmnm let me see
15:53 tonsofpcs (white tin, not goldish)
15:53 tonsofpcs oh, you're on an iphone
15:53 tonsofpcs nfc
15:53 speedrunnerG55_ What am i looking for?
15:53 Cprossu I've had pull & peels last a month before after being opened
15:54 Cprossu but I strongly advise against it
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15:54 Cprossu red vines, no matter how tough they are to eat, never go bad =P
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15:54 Cprossu fresh is best though
15:54 tonsofpcs yea :D
15:55 Cprossu http://www.coupongal.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Red-Vines-Black-Licorice-Sale.jpg
15:55 Cprossu ^ our local store
15:55 tonsofpcs I got some of the pinwheel ones when i was out with a group of friends a while ago and they're all like "wtf are these?"  and i'm like "awesome, that's what they are"
15:55 Cprossu stopped carrying these =(
15:56 * tonsofpcs forgot to bridge the two audio codecs before he left work yesterday... oops
15:56 Cprossu but wal mart now has a mixed bag that contains the red and black plus the red super rope!
15:58 Cprossu if someone would give me a box of them
15:58 Cprossu http://images.bizrate.com/resize?sq=500&amp;uid=2201012932
15:58 wannabe1987 i don't care for the pull n peel, but i'll eat them (after playing with them...making shapes and braids and shit).  i'd rather have twizzlers reg (red) tho...i do like black, but not sometimes...it turns my mouth black
15:58 Cprossu I'd eat it all in one sitting
15:58 Cprossu http://www.americanlicorice.com/images/sr.jpg
15:58 Cprossu ^ that's my fucking favorite red type
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15:59 tonsofpcs Cprossu: where can I emaill a pic?
15:59 wannabe1987 i'm going to the campground soon..i'll be leaving ya'll...if theres strong wifi i'll get back on
15:59 Cprossu email a pic?
15:59 tonsofpcs picture
15:59 Cprossu like what kind? to who?
15:59 tonsofpcs to you
15:59 tonsofpcs or, alternatively, is there some website thati  can email to that will just post it on an image share of some kind
15:59 tonsofpcs cus pushing image file from my cellphone is a pita.
16:00 Cprossu http://www.tinypic.com/
16:00 REDoutofstate Put it on FlickR.
16:00 Cprossu ooooh i see
16:00 Cprossu what you mean
16:00 tonsofpcs yea
16:00 Cprossu email it to cprossu@hotmail.com
16:00 Cprossu I'll take care of the rest
16:00 tonsofpcs hmm, can i email into flickr *checks*
16:00 Cprossu that's my junk email so don't expect responses
16:00 Cprossu REDoutofstate we love you!
16:00 REDoutofstate There is an uploader for it.
16:00 REDoutofstate Hai <3
16:00 REDoutofstate Loves you too.
16:01 tonsofpcs oo, i know! I can dropbox it!
16:01 REDoutofstate ^_^
16:01 REDoutofstate I'm so excited to be back to the lab on Monday.
16:01 REDoutofstate (and maybe tonight if we leave soon... :p )
16:02 wannabe1987 which state is REDoutofstate in?
16:02 * Cprossu *FYI* I do not have dropbox, facebook, linked....in or whatever it is, or any other of those account things, and I Think I'll remain free of them too xD
16:02 wannabe1987 ...
16:02 wannabe1987 no facebook?!
16:02 Cprossu nope
16:02 wannabe1987 i get my news off facebook
16:03 Cprossu I don't want to get anything off of facebook
16:03 tonsofpcs Cprossu: dropbox has 'public' folder and an app for my blackberry :D
16:03 Cprossu or have anything uploaded to it
16:03 Cprossu yay tonsofpcs
16:03 wannabe1987 then again...i don't have tv service
16:03 tonsofpcs and apparently there's an "upload photo -- take now" option too :D
16:04 * wannabe1987 goes to the campground now...
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16:05 tonsofpcs https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/IMG-20110618-00141.jpg?w=14d50d8d
16:05 tonsofpcs i think that link should work
16:05 tonsofpcs oh, maybe not...
16:05 tonsofpcs bah
16:06 tonsofpcs speedrunnerG55_: silly question - do you know of any animal rescues in the area down there?
16:06 Cprossu Error (403)
16:06 Cprossu It seems you don't belong here! You should probably try logging in?
16:06 SparkyProjects tonsofpcs, try tinypic
16:06 tonsofpcs http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11834900/IMG-20110618-00141.jpg << that's the right link
16:06 Cprossu nice
16:06 speedrunnerG55_ No
16:06 Cprossu those NEVER will go bad
16:06 Cprossu EVER
16:06 tonsofpcs heh
16:06 speedrunnerG55_ What?
16:07 tonsofpcs speedrunnerG55_: the picture
16:07 Cprossu they are individually wrapped
16:07 Cprossu xD
16:07 * speedrunnerG55_ sees red
16:07 speedrunnerG55_ HI RED
16:07 tonsofpcs Cprossu: "Individually wrapped for freshness"
16:09 tonsofpcs speedrunnerG55_: want a cat for 6 months?  (I just started getting msgs from a friend in london trying to find a temporary home for a mutual friend's cat which is in NJ)
16:10 speedrunnerG55_ Eh?
16:10 speedrunnerG55_ I should ask my ant and uncle
16:10 speedrunnerG55_ I bet they wouldnt mind
16:11 speedrunnerG55_ And they are north of me
16:11 speedrunnerG55_ In moteque
16:12 speedrunnerG55_ ...hi REDoutofstate
16:14 speedrunnerG55_ tonsofpcs:
16:14 speedrunnerG55_ ^
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16:16 REDoutofstate Hai Speed, dear. :)
16:17 REDoutofstate I'm in Tennessee, by the way....
16:17 REDoutofstate but I think wannabe is gone now.
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16:18 astro73|derrial hello world
16:18 Python hello
16:18 BotSteve Python: I have the following messages for you:
16:18 BotSteve At 08:32Z, Cprossu asked me to tell Python check this shit out -> http://www.2shared.com/file/oXMZ8B5-/cfgold.html <-this is how our video switcher software makes it's config files....
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16:20 speedrunnerG55_ 0_o thats so far froom home
16:20 tonsofpcs speedrunnerG55_: I think he may have found a local rescue... will prod more if it doesn't work out (or if you want I can have him prod you directly)
16:20 speedrunnerG55_ He?
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16:22 speedrunnerG55_ REDoutofstate: Is so far away from home. What the zoinks
16:22 maglinvinn_home hey guys, i could use a hand finding a data sheet or specs on a motor
16:22 maglinvinn_home anyone wanna lend a hand
16:22 speedrunnerG55_ You should be REDfaroutofstate
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16:23 SparkyProjects Dan, post what you have
16:23 speedrunnerG55_ tonsofpcs: he?
16:23 * Python thinks it should be REDlostInSpace
16:23 maglinvinn_home 3 lines:
16:23 tonsofpcs speedrunnerG55_: the one whom has the cat
16:23 maglinvinn_home ecm 4597 24v 24/97f
16:24 maglinvinn_home 60hz 2rpm 15mfd
16:24 maglinvinn_home 25080001
16:24 maglinvinn_home i need to know if its AC or DC, and what its current draw is
16:24 speedrunnerG55_ Aww :(
16:24 speedrunnerG55_ Oh well
16:24 REDoutofstate speedrunnerG55_: I was at the Hot Rod Reunion, my dad was an honoree so i spent the weekend at the racetrack. <3
16:24 SparkyProjects 60Hz and the capacitor says it's AC
16:25 REDoutofstate is now known as REDlostinspace
16:25 REDlostinspace Python <3
16:25 speedrunnerG55_ Lol
16:25 Python :)
16:25 speedrunnerG55_ So mutch space
16:26 maglinvinn_home but how many amps
16:26 maglinvinn_home haha
16:27 Ponko92 LOST IN SPACE....space *quiet echo* space
16:27 REDlostinspace lol.
16:27 maglinvinn_home lol ponko...
16:27 Ponko92 :P
16:27 maglinvinn_home spaaaaaccccceeeeeee!
16:27 REDlostinspace All right boys, I need to get packed so i can head home (and maybe get to the lab tonight...)
16:27 REDlostinspace Bye!
16:27 Ponko92 i have returned :P
16:27 Ponko92 laters RED
16:28 Ponko92 space space space.....
16:28 Seroster Cya red
16:28 REDlostinspace Bye!
16:28 maglinvinn_home if you want to see me, you should get a telescope, cause i'm in SPACE!
16:28 Ponko92 .c 21 F to C
16:28 BotSteve -6.11111111 degrees Celsius
16:28 mashpriborintorg Red, if you can pickup some junk satellites before returning, Chris will have them autopsied
16:28 astro73|derrial space?
16:29 astro73|derrial space dad?
16:30 Seroster maglinvinn_home, you shrooming?
16:30 maglinvinn_home no?
16:30 maglinvinn_home shroomin?
16:30 maglinvinn_home lol.
16:30 speedrunnerG55_ Bye REDlostinspace
16:32 SparkyProjects Dan, have you got a photo of it ? with a reference to size ?
16:32 SparkyProjects So far i'm drawing a blank
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16:34 maglinvinn_home http://www.pelco.com/sites/global/en/products/camera-solutions/range-presentation.page?p_function_id=9504&amp;p_range_id=2865&amp;p_tab_type=downloads&amp;p_document_type=305&amp;p_url=http://www.global-download.schneider-electric.com/repositoryPELCO/index.nsf/DisplayProductDocumentation%3FOpenAgent%26~EN%26L=en%26App=Schneider%26p=2865%26c=305&amp;c_filepath=/templatedata/Offer_Presentation/3_Range_Datasheet/data/en/shared/cameras/pt280_
16:34 maglinvinn_home they're in that pan/tilt
16:35 Hackfox CaptainBoden, should be Captain Planet for halloween :D
16:36 maglinvinn_home he did it last year
16:36 maglinvinn_home hahaha
16:36 SparkyProjects That link didn't show me anything
16:37 Hackfox lol
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16:37 maglinvinn_home Light Duty, Feedthrough P/T -  PT280-24P Light Duty Pan/Tilt
16:37 maglinvinn_home Pelco
16:37 Hackfox Captain Ahab this year?
16:38 maglinvinn_home now that could be awesome
16:38 Ponko92 RED lost connection in space
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16:39 speedrunnerG55_ Ponko92: No RED left
16:39 Ponko92 i know that but you don't get my point
16:39 Ponko92 lol
16:39 tonsofpcs in spaaaaaaace
16:39 SparkyProjects Dan, there's a spec sheet you can download
16:39 SparkyProjects Pan is 0.47A, tilt is 0.56A and that's the starting current, running is lower
16:40 astro73|derrial space?
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16:41 tonsofpcs 01:29:39 < maglinvinn_home> http://www.global-download.schneider-electric.com/85257689000007EE/all/09FA789B898663178525775A00608126/$File/c323sm.pdf
16:41 Ponko92 the final frontier
16:41 speedrunnerG55_ Oh
16:41 Seroster God fucking damn I need some new soldering tips
16:41 tonsofpcs page 25 for the p/t
16:41 speedrunnerG55_ I get it now Ponko92
16:41 Seroster Atm I am using a broken off 5mm drill bit. xD
16:41 Ponko92 lol
16:42 speedrunnerG55_ Seroster: Radio shack sells them
16:42 Ponko92 good thing speedy
16:42 speedrunnerG55_ Also micro center
16:42 * maglinvinn_home lul.  herp.  i was double checking it, and apparently the noscript was blocking the links from loading
16:42 speedrunnerG55_ speedy?
16:42 Seroster speedrunnerG55_, I live out of town. There is no radio shack in sweden and it's after six, on a saturday
16:42 Ponko92 yes speedy lol
16:42 Ponko92 not speedo
16:42 speedrunnerG55_ O_o
16:42 maglinvinn_home now time to find a 24 v transformer...
16:43 SparkyProjects Dan, i assume the capacitors are there
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16:43 * speedrunnerG55_ throws a cap at Ponko92
16:43 * Ponko92 dodges
16:44 * speedrunnerG55_ shoots one out of a nerf gun at Ponko92
16:45 * Ponko92 ducks
16:45 maglinvinn_home yes
16:45 maglinvinn_home the caps here are T 1-15k  100vdc
16:45 SparkyProjects yep, that sounds right  :)
16:45 * Ponko92 throws football at speedrunnerG55_
16:45 * speedrunnerG55_ removes the air restrictor
16:45 Seroster Note to self, iron makes a crappy soldering iron tip�
16:45 * speedrunnerG55_ ducks
16:45 * speedrunnerG55_ shoots again
16:46 Ponko92 NOOOO you fool
16:46 Ponko92 catch it
16:46 * Ponko92 ducks
16:46 * speedrunnerG55_ gets some pvc
16:46 * SparkyProjects note to seroster, several strands of copper cable shoved in the end of the iron makes a good emergency tip
16:47 * speedrunnerG55_ sticks cap in tube and blows in the end at Seroster
16:47 * Ponko92 wants to play footbawl
16:48 speedrunnerG55_ I dont want to play socker
16:48 speedrunnerG55_ Lol
16:48 Ponko92 hmmm ok
16:48 Seroster I have six strands of 12gauge copper wire in the iron, with a coil of wire around to keep it tight
16:49 Ponko92 speedy i say footbawl meaning AF
16:49 SparkyProjects maglinvinn-home http://www.schneider-electric.hu/html/epuletfelugyelet2011/PDF/09_pelco/9.3_PanTilts/c324mi.pdf
16:50 speedrunnerG55_ Ponko92: I want to ride my bycycle!!!!
16:51 Ponko92 i want to ride my bike
16:51 SparkyProjects maglinvinn_home http://www.schneider-electric.hu/html/epuletfelugyelet2011/PDF/09_pelco/9.3_PanTilts/c324mi.pdf
16:52 speedrunnerG55_ I Want To Ride It Where I Like
16:52 maglinvinn_home yup yup... i'm looking now
16:52 maglinvinn_home but i gotta go through my junque and find a 24 v transformer...
16:52 Ponko92 i say black you say
16:52 SparkyProjects or 2x 12 in  series :D
16:53 speedrunnerG55_ White
16:53 Ponko92 bicycle races are coming your way
16:53 Hackfox I love the tube scene in the newest video
16:53 speedrunnerG55_ I say bark you say
16:53 Ponko92 shark
16:53 maglinvinn_home tube scene?
16:54 Seroster SparkyProjects, Hm, this oldass plumbing (2.5mm diam) 40/60 solder smells like cat piss, at least the flux does. Comments?
16:54 speedrunnerG55_ Hey man
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16:55 speedrunnerG55_ Jaws Was Never My Scene
16:55 Ponko92 jaws was never my scene and star wars.
16:55 SparkyProjects 40/60 is old electronic solder
16:55 SparkyProjects Plumbing solder doesn't have flux, you have to use a separate paste
16:55 Ponko92 and i don't like star wars
16:55 speedrunnerG55_ I say rolls you say
16:56 Ponko92 royce
16:56 Hackfox Captain: "Is this one broken?" Paul "I think so" Captain: "Drop"
16:57 speedrunnerG55_ You Say God Give Me A Choice You Say Lord I Say Christ
16:58 Ponko92 lol
16:58 Ponko92 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GugsCdLHm-Q
16:58 Seroster Oh, then it is old electronics solder
16:58 Seroster But it is thick THICK wire
17:01 Cprossu tc is firing
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17:03 SparkyProjects You can get solder from almost as thin as a hair to sommething like regular plumbing solder (1/8"), electronic solder is pre-fluxed
17:03 SparkyProjects 60/40 denotes the tin/lead mix
17:07 astro73|derrial I wonder if we should get chris a twitter so we know when something interesting is going on
17:08 Ponko92 i thought he already did have one o_O
17:09 astro73|derrial does he use it?
17:09 Ponko92 uh probably not
17:09 maglinvinn_home getting him to stop long enough to use it would be the problem.
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17:12 Ponko92 exactly
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17:18 tonsofpcs maglinvinn_home: give him a teletype keyboard to enter tweets
17:18 * tonsofpcs needs to find someone to help him remove the bar top so he can slide the bar out to clean
17:18 maglinvinn_home we almost worked on that yesterday, but messed with the gemini project instead
17:21 Druidic_Rifleman hey maglinvinn
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17:25 * Ponko92 is play Madden NFL 11
17:25 Ponko92 :P
17:28 * Python is reading masters of doom
17:28 Python http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masters_of_Doom
17:35 Cprossu brb food
17:35 LeadHead www.projectcartoon.com/cartoon/3
17:35 LeadHead I thought this seemed somewhat relevant
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17:37 Python lol
17:38 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: DruidicRifleman on Project hick ship... the ontario chapters redneck rocketry program.
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17:39 * wannabe1987 made it to the campground...
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17:45 * tonsofpcs is presently detopping a bar
17:45 * Python is currently spinning in chair
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17:47 cctoide that variac on the captain's blog has "Portugal" handwritten on it, wonder if that means it was over here at some point
17:48 Python the world may never know
17:50 mashpriborintorg Maybe the captain has a clue about it, ask him
17:50 tonsofpcs cctoide: maybe it controls all of the power feeding portugal :D
17:51 mashpriborintorg if not, yes it is a mystery, I just can't stand this suspens XD
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17:53 * mashpriborintorg PMs Paul in order to have "Vanuatu" written onto his oscilloscope for next tutorial video, it will be get the irc busy for some time :D
17:54 tonsofpcs hmm, i see note on FB about a "TV Repeater" -- what make?  *might have parts*
17:54 LeadHead Cprossu, you there?
17:56 * Python wonders if anyone here has had experience with WxWidgets
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17:57 * Python thinks GTK or QT might work too
17:58 tonsofpcs Re: May 19 post: /me would love to start a Geek Group Chapter
18:00 Python > where ?
18:01 * tonsofpcs is just outside Binghamton NY
18:01 tonsofpcs could probably get physical space either from my employer or from IBM on the cheap....
18:02 Python from IBM ?
18:02 tonsofpcs from IBM
18:02 tonsofpcs the company that just turned 100 on thursday that was founded 6 blocks from where I sit.
18:03 Python are you an engineer ?
18:03 Python or similar ...
18:03 * tonsofpcs is a broadcast engineer for a NCE TV/radio station
18:05 tonsofpcs we're in an old school building and one section of the building is currently overflow storage but is physically still just 4 classrooms (w/ large hallway).  The storage could easily be consolidated into one of those 4 rooms
18:07 tonsofpcs IBM has tons of real estate here that they're probably not using anymore too
18:07 tonsofpcs I could see a lot of IBMers (and folks from other local research/engineering firms) getting involved.
18:08 Python perhaps you should try
18:08 Python it sounds promising
18:10 tonsofpcs I've been contemplating a hackspace for some time, but never really bothered tryingg to drum up interest...
18:11 tonsofpcs I suppose I should attend the next local LUG and IEEE meetings and push the idea (and also push the idea at the SBE meetings that I attend anyway)
18:12 tonsofpcs I don't want to push the idea of a 'the geek group chapter' without tgg's blessing, of course.
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18:15 speedrunnerG55__ hi
18:15 speedrunnerG55_ is now known as speedrunnerG55
18:15 speedrunnerG55__ hi
18:16 Python hello
18:16 tonsofpcs hi
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18:16 speedrunnerG55__ hi
18:16 speedrunnerG55__ is now known as speedrunnerG55
18:16 speedrunnerG55 finnanaly
18:16 BotSteve speedrunnerG55: I have the following messages for you:
18:16 BotSteve At 08:24Z, Cprossu asked me to tell speedrunnerG55 sorry for saying I 'BotSteve: tell'ed everyone without including you
18:17 masterofmonks speedrunnerG55: too many spatulas not enough pancakes.
18:17 tonsofpcs mmm, pancakes
18:17 speedrunnerG55 lol
18:17 speedrunnerG55 ok then...
18:19 speedrunnerG55 i can use (()) is nicks?
18:19 speedrunnerG55 v\cant?
18:19 speedrunnerG55 cant*
18:19 tonsofpcs brb, food
18:20 masterofmonks Beacuse you already have Bra and Ket in your nick.
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18:22 speedrunnerG55 ?
18:23 masterofmonks Bra: {[<(
18:23 masterofmonks Ket: )>]}
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18:26 Cprossu just got back with food to eat
18:27 wannabe1987 yay food!
18:27 * wannabe1987 throws food at Cprossu
18:28 * Cprossu * Holy crap it's expired by 12 years *
18:28 wannabe1987 ?
18:28 masterofmonks 1999?
18:28 Cprossu (was reading the dates on the cans of beef stew you threw at me)
18:28 wannabe1987 i threw beef stew? odd
18:28 Cprossu yeah I know
18:29 LeadHead Cprossu
18:29 * Python wishes he could eat food
18:29 Cprossu They all expired in July 1999
18:29 LeadHead so I went outside, and the Land Cruiser started right up
18:29 LeadHead without a problem.
18:29 wannabe1987 Python why can't youeat?
18:29 Cprossu did you drive it anywhere only to be stranded by it, LeadHead?
18:29 LeadHead BUT, it wouldn't rev cleanly
18:29 LeadHead You'd rev it, and it'd hesitate and stumble
18:30 LeadHead like a carb with a broken accelerator pump
18:30 Cprossu then a cylinder is misfiring
18:30 Python fun stomach issues ... long story
18:30 wannabe1987 Python so how do you get nutrition?
18:30 Cprossu find out which plug has fouled with gas, LeadHead
18:30 LeadHead once it go above ~1500 RPM it would then rev cleanly
18:30 LeadHead no
18:30 LeadHead it held a smooth clean idle
18:30 Python I eat,
18:30 LeadHead and once above like 1500 it was fine
18:30 Cprossu doesn't matter
18:30 Cprossu fuel injection is like that
18:30 Cprossu it's awesome
18:30 Cprossu find the cylinder that's missing
18:31 LeadHead I know when an engine is missfiring
18:31 LeadHead It's not
18:31 Cprossu how do you figure?
18:31 LeadHead Because it's a perfectly balanced I6
18:31 LeadHead if it had a missfire
18:31 LeadHead you'd know it
18:31 Cprossu we were thinking leaking injector
18:31 Cprossu think of how that figures into it
18:31 LeadHead I'm starting to lean towards coolant temperature sensor, or TPS
18:31 Python just lately I devloped an stomach ulcer, it hurts
18:31 Cprossu next time you start it take a piece of paper and put it to the exhaust pipe for fun
18:32 LeadHead because once the engine got a little heat in it
18:32 Cprossu ^
18:32 LeadHead it was completely fine
18:32 Cprossu ^
18:32 Cprossu next time you cold start it
18:32 LeadHead Yes, to see for particulates
18:32 Cprossu no
18:32 LeadHead Black smoke = carbon = particulates
18:32 Cprossu see if it sucks the paper back
18:32 LeadHead oh
18:33 Cprossu good try though ^_^
18:33 speedrunnerG55 whats up guys
18:33 LeadHead I could just be a man
18:33 LeadHead and pull the plug wires
18:33 LeadHead one by one
18:33 Cprossu or you could be a sissy
18:33 Cprossu ready for this?
18:33 LeadHead Sure
18:33 Cprossu you have a test light right?
18:33 speedrunnerG55 and hi wannabe
18:33 LeadHead I've got a multi meter
18:33 Cprossu no
18:33 Cprossu it has to be a test light
18:33 Cprossu or a screwdriver
18:33 wannabe1987 hi speedrunnerG55
18:34 Cprossu with a test lead
18:34 LeadHead I've got a screw driver
18:34 Cprossu ok good
18:34 Cprossu alligator test lead clip it to ground
18:34 Cprossu right
18:34 Cprossu and get some vac hose
18:34 Cprossu new fresh vac hose
18:34 LeadHead uh uh
18:34 Cprossu cut some ~1.5-2" long lengths, 6 of them
18:35 Cprossu then put the vac hose on the spark plugs
18:35 Cprossu and put the plug wires on the vac hose
18:35 Cprossu the electricity will go along the outer length of the vac hose
18:35 Cprossu then touch your grounded screwdriver to each one
18:35 LeadHead Yeah
18:35 LeadHead I've seen that
18:35 Cprossu it works fucking great.
18:35 tonsofpcs leadhead - my rav4 did similar when it blew the cat converter/manifold system.  then it stalled out while stopped at an exit ramp and souynded like (and drove like) a misfiring golf cart
18:36 Cprossu you can actually run a whole car on vac hose if it doesn't ground to anything
18:36 Cprossu I've won several bets doing it
18:36 Cprossu I'll be back in a bit
18:36 LeadHead you and your friends
18:36 LeadHead bet a lot
18:36 LeadHead don't they
18:36 Nazzy wow, the SRSG is fierce :o
18:37 Python livestream ?
18:37 Nazzy no, youtube
18:37 Python ah,
18:37 mashpriborintorg yeah, it is almsot more spectacular than the coils
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18:40 Cprossu they sure did, LeadHead
18:40 * speedrunnerG55 opens stream
18:40 Cprossu that's how I didn't ever pay for my food during that time
18:42 Cprossu between radiator caps, 'vac hose plug wires', and being good at reading wiring diagrams, there's probably a good $500-$600 just there
18:43 LeadHead heh
18:43 Cprossu although I did a quick fix on a guy's elcamino once
18:43 Cprossu realllll nasty rigging
18:44 tonsofpcs Cprossu: run a whole car on vac house? huh?
18:44 Cprossu and told him he could just make it home but to please get the proper parts and fix it the next day
18:44 tonsofpcs *hose
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18:44 Cprossu and..... he called me up to tell me my fix failed 16 months later
18:44 LeadHead rofl
18:45 Cprossu 16 months on a fix I built to get him home o_o
18:45 LeadHead Youtube needs to do what Craigslist did
18:45 LeadHead and seperate dealer videos from people
18:45 LeadHead Trying to look up videos of cars - espeically new ones is almost impossible
18:46 LeadHead since every dealer in the US apparently wants everyone on youtube to know what cars they have.
18:46 Cprossu '79 el camino right?
18:46 Cprossu computerized carb
18:46 LeadHead Yeah?
18:46 astro73|derrial what are dealer videos?
18:46 injektion lol el camino the redneck mobile
18:46 Cprossu I put a add-a-fuse in to bypass a dead circuit on the ecm
18:46 Cprossu and really kludged it in
18:46 LeadHead Dealers that take videos of their cars
18:46 LeadHead and put them on youtube
18:47 Python /nick Python-Away!
18:47 Python is now known as Python-Away
18:47 Cprossu I took his horn fuse out to run the damn thing
18:47 LeadHead rofl
18:47 Cprossu that's how kludged it was
18:47 LeadHead computerized carb?
18:47 Cprossu yeah
18:47 LeadHead Oh wait
18:47 Cprossu there's a solenoid in the carb
18:47 LeadHead was it the kind with a controlled needle
18:47 LeadHead or the ones that adjust the choke plate
18:47 Cprossu and the computer cycles it with duty cycle
18:47 Cprossu no controlled needle
18:48 Cprossu either way the entire ecm was dead
18:48 Cprossu the circuit from the fusebox was dead
18:48 LeadHead Shouldn't the thing have at least ran?
18:48 Cprossu so I just ran one quick and made sure it didn't ground out
18:48 Cprossu it would start..sort of
18:49 Cprossu there were other things wrong
18:49 LeadHead You should have seen what my neighbor did with his '85 F-150
18:49 LeadHead 4.9/300-6
18:49 Cprossu it stalled out though without the ecm being on
18:49 LeadHead computer carb, full emissions control, etc..
18:49 Cprossu start catch, stumble on accelerator
18:49 LeadHead Pre-EFI Ford EEC-IV
18:49 Cprossu dead
18:49 LeadHead May have been an EEC-III actually
18:49 LeadHead but anyways
18:49 Cprossu so I figured out what buy not why
18:49 LeadHead it wouldn't run worth a damn
18:50 Cprossu and kludged an add-a-fuse in
18:50 LeadHead he ripped the carb off
18:50 LeadHead and grabbed a single barrel carter
18:50 LeadHead from a pre-smogcarb 300-6 he had lying around
18:50 LeadHead put it on
18:50 LeadHead ran fine
18:50 LeadHead but
18:50 LeadHead all of the electronic computer junk was still in there
18:50 LeadHead including the TFI ignition system
18:50 injektion If EEC-IV was any good than the 2.3L Lima engine would of got more HP than it did with the Bosch system when used in Europe
18:51 * Ponko92 is doing the safety dance
18:51 Cprossu ^ the ecm is not an excuse for bad engine design
18:51 Cprossu or lack of horsepower
18:51 LeadHead Good thing the TFI system only uses the ECM for spark advance
18:51 LeadHead and nothing else
18:51 * speedrunnerG55 arwers
18:51 injektion Then why did the Bosch system get more HP then
18:51 * speedrunnerG55 rawers
18:51 LeadHead 'cause juding by all the wires that were shorted together under hood
18:51 Cprossu because the compression changed too, injektion
18:51 LeadHead that EEC was long dead
18:52 LeadHead Because Europe's emissions standards in 1990
18:52 injektion Cprossu: I don't think the Lima engine used in Europe had higher compression
18:52 LeadHead were barely stricter than our standards in 1970.
18:52 tonsofpcs LeadHead: there's a local dealer here whose youtube 'spots' are very high quality productions, very well thought out... their local tv ad buys are some of the worst i've seen
18:52 LeadHead European countries did not require cats
18:52 LeadHead until 1993.
18:53 injektion Both of the BMWs have had their cats removed because after this year no emission testing
18:53 tonsofpcs does the US actually require cats or just an emission standard?
18:53 LeadHead I actually emailed the EPA about that tonsofpcs
18:54 injektion A well tuned engine should be able to pass a smog test without a cat
18:54 LeadHead The EPA doesn't actually require cats, EGR, or anything
18:54 tonsofpcs LeadHead: and whitman said to do whatever you want? :-p
18:54 LeadHead The EPA requires a certain emissions standard
18:54 LeadHead they don't care how the automakers reach those standards
18:54 LeadHead as long as they do
18:54 Cprossu and you can use any methods that you want
18:54 tonsofpcs LeadHead: well, the right to decide what you can have in your car on the road is a state right...
18:54 LeadHead Sort of
18:55 Cprossu including using baby seal heads
18:55 LeadHead There are federal emissions standards
18:55 tonsofpcs (yea, commerce clause, blah blah)
18:55 LeadHead California is a bit gay though
18:55 LeadHead and have their own.
18:55 injektion I've known people to pass the 10:1 compression ratio BMW M30B34 in CA without a cat despite their standards
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18:56 LeadHead Emissions standards were pretty lax in 1984 injektion
18:56 LeadHead compared to what they are now
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18:56 LeadHead But yeah, that is why some cars don't have EGR valves, and some diesels in the mid 2000s/late 90s
18:56 * tonsofpcs wants to get a standard pre-1996 pre-computer car for driving around town
18:56 LeadHead got away without having cats
18:56 LeadHead in the US.
18:57 LeadHead pre-computer car?
18:57 injektion I'd like a 10:1 BMW M30B34 instead of the shitty 8:1 the US got
18:57 injektion No
18:57 tonsofpcs LeadHead: no OBD
18:57 LeadHead Oh
18:57 LeadHead I like pre-OBD fuel injection because they're usually eaiser to tune
18:57 LeadHead but OBD-II cars have so much more powerful integrated diagnostics
18:58 injektion The US got the M30B35 with 9:1 and 210HP but that was 2 years before BMW stopped production of the M30
18:58 Cprossu it's goodwill 1/2 off day folks
18:58 eadthem tonsofpcs when ya think about it  what is a carburator and distrubutor but a mechanical computer
18:58 tonsofpcs eadthem: yea, but i like mechanical.
18:58 tonsofpcs I deal with too much electronics otherwise.  I want to drive without one.
18:58 eadthem certanly more intresteding
18:59 LeadHead You'll need pre 85 then
18:59 Cprossu tggmc ding swich cameras please!
18:59 LeadHead most of the US went EFI around 85+
18:59 * eadthem needs a new BBQ recipe as his is lost
18:59 injektion I love the M30B34 despite mine having somewhat of a rough lean idle
18:59 tonsofpcs LeadHead: I think the VWs stayed until early 90s, no?
18:59 Cprossu injektion: which 2 engine years are you comparing europe to us?
18:59 injektion The rough lean idle gives the car character :D
19:00 injektion Cprossu: which engine?
19:00 Cprossu the lima 2.3
19:00 injektion 80s I think
19:00 Cprossu you were comparing 2 engines
19:00 Cprossu because 80's could mean so many things
19:00 LeadHead Npe, VW had Digifant EFI
19:00 LeadHead in the 80s
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19:00 Cprossu they had carbs, efi, ohc, and ohv
19:00 injektion I thought they all came from the same engine factory
19:00 LeadHead Yeah, what 2.3 Lima are you talkin about
19:00 Cprossu all in the same year span
19:01 LeadHead 'cause in 87
19:01 LeadHead you could also get a turbo intercooled, EFI 190HP
19:01 LeadHead 2.3 in the Thunderbird
19:01 Cprossu don't forget about the ungodly cosworth
19:02 injektion <3 Ford Cosworth engines
19:02 Cprossu point is you'd have to have 2 identical engines
19:02 Cprossu to say if one ecm would run it better
19:02 eadthem woot i foudn it http://final.servegame.com/public/food/
19:03 wannabe1987 more food?
19:03 Cprossu and I can say, with the same set of fuel tables, the power change would be neglegible
19:03 tonsofpcs the oldest car that i've driven more than once was an 89 New Yorker.... and that thing had a textual data display :-p  doesn't exactly meet what I want ;)
19:03 Cprossu probably within the margin of error
19:03 Cprossu for recording data
19:04 Cprossu tonsofpcs: turbo 2.2?
19:04 tonsofpcs Cprossu: it was the Landau (the one with leather everything -- including part of the exterior), whatever that came with
19:04 Cprossu talk about a rough awesome motor in the 2.2/2.5's
19:04 tonsofpcs it did continuous fuel consumption calculations, etc.  much like the newer BMWs are starting to do....
19:05 Cprossu
19:05 Cprossu V6, 3.0 L, / CHRYSLER 181 cid,NON TURBO, GAS ENGINE
19:05 Cprossu FWD, SOHC, roller cam.
19:05 Cprossu booo
19:05 Cprossu mitsu 3.0
19:05 LeadHead Comparing engines between countries is pointless
19:05 LeadHead Ford Colgone 2.9 in america made 140HP, EEC-IV.
19:05 tonsofpcs Cprossu: I still have the stereo :D
19:06 Cprossu I have 2 stereo's one has a blown vfd
19:06 LeadHead Ford Colgone 2.9 in europe made 160HP, Bosch L-Jetronic with some weird bastardized EEC-IV on it
19:06 Cprossu for my '89 caravan
19:06 tonsofpcs 2 original speakers too
19:06 Cprossu I really need to get on my '89 caravan
19:06 Cprossu that thing is fucking awesome
19:06 tonsofpcs (my brother replaced it with a cd player system)
19:06 Cprossu and I need to get it going
19:06 tonsofpcs (actually, i might have all 4 original speakers)
19:06 LeadHead Must be the EEC-IV's fault for the weaker american version, ignoring the fact the european version had no emissions, different exhaust, short-runner dual plenum dual throttle body intake
19:07 tonsofpcs it also had the flip-open lights in front, raising/lowering antenna, etc.
19:07 Cprossu and different compression in lots of cases
19:07 Cprossu fuck ford for keeping the cool cars in europe!
19:07 Cprossu FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU FORD
19:07 Cprossu I WANT MY COSWORTH ESCORTTTTTT
19:07 Cprossu lol
19:08 Cprossu well later
19:08 LeadHead I'm not quite understanding
19:08 injektion LeadHead: EEC-IV is still terrible
19:08 LeadHead and why is that
19:08 Cprossu and one of these days I'll get my '89 caravan running
19:08 Cprossu LeadHead: show him why eec-IV's are actually the tits.
19:08 injektion The mistakes ford made
19:08 Cprossu that module is fucking awesome
19:08 injektion TFI for example
19:08 * speedrunnerG55 hands GuShH  some blocks
19:09 LeadHead TFI is not related to EEC-IV.
19:09 LeadHead EEC-IV can run off distributor less ignitions too
19:09 injektion Besides who needs EEC-IV now when there is megasquirt
19:09 speedrunnerG55 oops wrong channel
19:09 tonsofpcs Cprossu: the doulbe-DIN radio or single-DIN radio?
19:10 LeadHead Megasquirt has its own set of problems
19:10 Hackfox I freaking Love Magic The Gathering now.
19:10 tonsofpcs Hackfox: why? commander?
19:11 Hackfox I bought MTG: Duels of the Planeswalkers 2012
19:11 tonsofpcs is that the new top-down PC game?
19:11 * wannabe1987 is sitting outside, in her new green lantern hat...online :D
19:11 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: did you see the movie?
19:11 Hackfox is for xbox too, but I have it on PC
19:11 wannabe1987 not yet...i won tix and a prize pack
19:12 tonsofpcs col
19:12 tonsofpcs *cool
19:12 wannabe1987 including a hat, t shirt, tank, action figure, and backpack :D
19:12 BatSteve you have a tank?!
19:12 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
19:12 BotSteve At 08:24Z, Cprossu asked me to tell BatSteve GRUUUEEEEEEEEEE!
19:12 wannabe1987 tanktop lol BatSteve
19:12 wannabe1987 Cprossu was abusing the bot
19:13 wannabe1987 hi BatSteve
19:13 LeadHead Hey Cprossu
19:13 LeadHead my buddy called me back about that Blazer
19:13 LeadHead plugged cat.
19:14 BatSteve darn!
19:14 BatSteve I was all excited.  I want a tank.
19:14 wannabe1987 BatSteve i can't afford the gas for a tank
19:14 BatSteve also, yeah, I know Cprossu was abusing the bot, that's his job
19:14 wannabe1987 o o
19:14 wannabe1987 k
19:14 tonsofpcs i have a friend that has a few different lanteern hats (none of them green)
19:14 wannabe1987 nope, its black hat
19:15 tonsofpcs no, like he has a white lantern corp hat, an orange lantern corp hat, etc.
19:15 wannabe1987 o
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19:16 tonsofpcs they're all black with the symbol
19:21 injektion When and if the Bosch ECU in the BMW goes bad I'm probably going to replace it with MS
19:30 * wannabe1987 just saw two gingers on a golfcart
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19:36 wannabe1987 hi Hackotter
19:38 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: jaaz95 on Project hick ship... the ontario chapters redneck rocketry program.
19:39 wannabe1987 thanks BotSteve
19:39 BotSteve You're welcome, wannabe1987
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19:41 * wannabe1987 changed font. so weird!
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19:51 dr_jkl sigh
19:51 dr_jkl i need a 3d modeler.
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19:59 Seroster I wanted to make my array small and tidy.
20:00 Seroster But... Screw that. Efficiency!
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20:01 * wannabe1987 is going fishing...with her brother
20:01 Seroster Is that good or bad?
20:09 exor674 have fun wannabe
20:11 tonsofpcs dr_jkl - why not use a physical medium for the art?
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20:15 dr_jkl tonsofpcs: it wouldn't be the same i dont think.
20:15 dr_jkl if i have to i'll go 2 dimensional and get it cut in acrylic but i still need an artist
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20:33 dr_jkl i think its' time to post in the forums. someone's gotta know someone..
20:38 Seroster EH?
20:39 Seroster Can I help, dr_jkl?
20:51 maglinvinn_home uhm
20:52 maglinvinn_home what do you want printed
20:52 maglinvinn_home ponoko.com
20:52 maglinvinn_home design it
20:52 maglinvinn_home send it to them
20:52 maglinvinn_home they print it
20:52 maglinvinn_home simple
20:52 * maglinvinn_home goes back to dukenukem forever
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20:59 speedrunnerG55 WB wannabe
21:03 speedrunnerG55 Ponko92: ?
21:04 speedrunnerG55 whats up
21:05 Ponko92 hey not much i'm just working on my college stuff and scholarship gubbings
21:06 speedrunnerG55 this channel is iether horribally borring or super fast
21:08 Seroster People will start getting home from work or school soon
21:08 speedrunnerG55 ok
21:08 Ponko92 or they're busy doing other stuff like me
21:10 speedrunnerG55 :(
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21:19 speedrunnerG55 hi westmi
21:20 westmi SUP
21:20 speedrunnerG55 eating salomi
21:20 speedrunnerG55 how are you?
21:20 westmi very good
21:25 westmi speedrunnerG55, http://s980.photobucket.com/albums/ae281/westmi/minecraft/?action=view&amp;current=myserver35.png
21:25 speedrunnerG55 whats tyhat
21:25 westmi my server
21:26 westmi minecraft pic
21:26 speedrunnerG55 cool
21:26 speedrunnerG55 want to join mine?
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21:29 westmi http://s980.photobucket.com/albums/ae281/westmi/minecraft/?action=view&amp;current=Torchlit.png
21:29 westmi another
21:30 westmi a big castle
21:30 speedrunnerG55 cool
21:30 speedrunnerG55 join mine
21:30 speedrunnerG55 67.80.48.245
21:30 speedrunnerG55 ok?
21:32 westmi http://s980.photobucket.com/albums/ae281/westmi/minecraft/?action=view&amp;current=Torchlit1.png
21:32 westmi ok
21:32 westmi in a minute
21:33 tonsofpcs hai
21:34 tonsofpcs dr_jkl: you cast a mold, then cast it, then you use green stuff or something else on it, then you can cast a mold of that to cast as many as you want...
21:35 speedrunnerG55 westmi: when you are in say cheesmonkey
21:36 westmi k
21:36 Cprossu BatSteve-Away : you around?
21:36 Cprossu I'll be on my laptop
21:36 westmi I go on minecraft as westmi
21:38 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: DruidicRifleman on Project hick ship... the ontario chapters redneck rocketry program.
21:39 Cprossu_Laptop is there anyone in here at the lab right now?
21:43 dr_jkl tonsofpcs: i need someone to design the fucking thing. I'm handling getting it made.
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21:44 speedrunnerG55 westmi: arent you joining?
21:45 westmi yep- right now
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22:05 Cprossu_Laptop tonsofpcs
22:05 Cprossu_Laptop are you around?
22:06 tonsofpcs nope
22:06 tonsofpcs you?
22:06 Cprossu_Laptop good point
22:06 tonsofpcs right, pointed, not round :)
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22:06 Cprossu_Laptop I need you to find out what PLVL means for the mcc-3500
22:06 tonsofpcs PLVL?
22:06 tonsofpcs P Level?
22:06 Cprossu_Laptop yes.
22:06 tonsofpcs Program Level?
22:06 Cprossu_Laptop no
22:07 Cprossu_Laptop I think it's for the buttons on the switcher
22:07 Cprossu_Laptop btw I have some fun for you
22:07 Cprossu_Laptop let me zip up jupiter configurator for you
22:07 tonsofpcs do I need a windows box?
22:08 Cprossu_Laptop yeah
22:08 Cprossu_Laptop although it could
22:08 tonsofpcs I have 2000 or Vista x64.  Or I can run XP in a VM
22:08 Cprossu_Laptop run under wine
22:08 tonsofpcs not gonna try that.
22:08 Cprossu_Laptop any will do
22:08 tonsofpcs k, lemme find a pc
22:10 Cprossu_Laptop http://www.2shared.com/file/tQs5f2kH/Configurator.html
22:10 Cprossu_Laptop @ tonsofpcs
22:10 tonsofpcs how big is it?
22:10 Cprossu_Laptop like 30 megs
22:10 tonsofpcs k
22:10 Cprossu_Laptop *33 megs
22:11 Cprossu_Laptop I'm creating a config from scratch right now
22:11 Cprossu_Laptop tonsofpcs: The physical level number for the level.  This number can be found in the documentation package supplied with the switcher.
22:12 tonsofpcs oh, ok
22:12 tonsofpcs should be 0 or 1
22:12 Cprossu_Laptop it's set to 0
22:12 Cprossu_Laptop but what is it so I know?
22:13 tonsofpcs it's the level.
22:13 * tonsofpcs explains
22:13 speedrunnerG55 ohh hass
22:14 Cprossu_Laptop ok
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22:15 Ponko92 speedrunnerG55 NOW is a good time to talk lol
22:15 speedrunnerG55 why
22:16 speedrunnerG55 oh
22:16 speedrunnerG55 sorry
22:16 tonsofpcs so, crosspoint routers are essentially X-Y matricies.  To deal with different types of systems (Audio, video, digital audio, digital video, audio cahnnel 2, audio channel 3, HD video, etc.), you add "levels" (Z axis, I guess).
22:16 speedrunnerG55 whats up tonsofpcs
22:16 tonsofpcs some routers can cross levels, some have common analog/digital levels, etc, but the level is essentially what can switch to each other.
22:17 tonsofpcs if you say "Source 12 > Dest 5", it will switch one signal on each level available from Source 12 to Dest 5
22:17 Ponko92 well then i was doing work on college and doing research
22:17 Ponko92 on football
22:17 Ponko92 is there anyone at tggmc1?
22:18 Ponko92 evidently not
22:18 tonsofpcs bah, idk where the psu for this is
22:19 speedrunnerG55 wannabe you there?
22:19 Ponko92 wannabe1987 speeck
22:19 Ponko92 speak*
22:22 tonsofpcs Cprossu_Laptop:i'mma try vista
22:22 tonsofpcs x64
22:22 tonsofpcs it'll be hilariosu
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22:25 Ponko92 well i think we pissed him off enough
22:26 Cprossu_Laptop tonsofpcs: LET ME KNOW HOW IT TURNS OUT
22:26 Cprossu_Laptop whoops
22:26 Cprossu_Laptop caps sorry!
22:27 Ponko92 i was going to say "CAPS Cprossu CAPS"
22:27 Ponko92 i was about to say (rather)
22:31 tonsofpcs heh
22:39 Cprossu_Laptop I think the unique serial data bus ID is 0600106d
22:39 Cprossu_Laptop just posting this, mcc 3500
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22:42 tonsofpcs yay, top is back on the bar
22:43 tonsofpcs ok, now i'm loading putty on windows to dl this
22:45 Cprossu_Laptop I just made a config that compiled without error
22:45 Cprossu_Laptop I feel happy
22:51 Seroster Jesus fucking christ that scared me
22:51 Seroster I need new probes for my meter.
22:51 Seroster :c
22:54 CaptainBoden hey guys, whta's up
22:58 tonsofpcs wheee
22:58 tonsofpcs Cprossu_Laptop: does it start?
22:58 CaptainBoden Is the console working yet?
23:00 tonsofpcs what compatability mode should I try?
23:00 tonsofpcs CaptainBoden: I think he may be waiting for someone on-site to let him in still...
23:00 tonsofpcs (not sure)
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23:01 FIrekingdom is the caption one
23:01 FIrekingdom i found something he needs to know
23:01 tonsofpcs ?
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23:02 tonsofpcs BotSteve: ask Cprossu_Laptop what compatability mode should I try?
23:02 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I'll pass that on when Cprossu_Laptop is around.
23:02 FIrekingdom any one in the lab here
23:03 FIrekingdom who the person n laptop?
23:04 FIrekingdom on*
23:04 tonsofpcs anyway, CaptainBoden, I am interested in starting a chapter of tgg in the Binghamton, NY area.
23:04 FIrekingdom i know you reading this
23:05 tonsofpcs FIrekingdom: you could say what you want and stop pandering...
23:05 FIrekingdom http://www.boingboing.net/2011/06/17/wikipedia-is-giving.html
23:05 FIrekingdom i wonder if that helps
23:06 FIrekingdom free server for  non-profit  use
23:07 tonsofpcs if they approve
23:07 tonsofpcs they seem to want specific uses per machine
23:07 FIrekingdom you should at least try
23:08 tonsofpcs oh, tgg should definitely be able to get some
23:08 speedrunnerg55 hi guys
23:08 tonsofpcs just need to figure out purpose _before_ asking, it seems
23:08 CaptainBoden Back
23:08 FIrekingdom you could say you going to use them for tans coding video
23:08 CaptainBoden Steve and cory are both at the lab, someone should be able to let you in to the box
23:08 FIrekingdom just put them in nodes
23:08 CaptainBoden I knew about the wiki thing, that'll be a long line but we're giving it a shot
23:09 CaptainBoden and I'm all for a NY chapter, post about it in the forums
23:09 tonsofpcs CaptainBoden: will do.
23:09 tonsofpcs thanks :)
23:11 FIrekingdom does the geekgroup have a cluster for video converting
23:13 FIrekingdom captain you have a nas for backup?
23:14 FIrekingdom or another machine?
23:15 FIrekingdom i hate to see the group loss data that can be replace
23:15 Thermoelectric Pretty sure they run backups onto something.
23:16 FIrekingdom media data is easy to back up, but in raw form it takes a lot for space
23:16 FIrekingdom of*
23:17 SparkyProjects They get through a lot of TB drives
23:17 tonsofpcs Cprossu_Laptop: where does it install to?
23:18 FIrekingdom i use to got thought 500gb in a week with avid
23:18 tonsofpcs FIrekingdom: idk what tgg does for backup.  Where I work, we keep the raw footage on it's original tape (if shot on tape, if not we keep two copies on HDD), keep the EDL/project in 2 places, and keep the final rennder out in at least two places.
23:18 Cprossu_Laptop I left for a moment
23:18 BotSteve Cprossu_Laptop: I have the following messages for you:
23:19 BotSteve At 23:02Z, tonsofpcs asked me to ask Cprossu_Laptop what compatability mode should I try?
23:19 tonsofpcs FIrekingdom: I can go thruogh 500GB with my Avid system in 20 minutes.... @(*^@* transcoding everything
23:19 Cprossu_Laptop CaptainBoden what's new?
23:19 Cprossu_Laptop tonsofpcs: it should install to c:\saturn\something or other
23:19 Cprossu_Laptop CaptainBoden: I've figured out lots of stuff
23:20 Cprossu_Laptop CaptainBoden: please let steve know
23:20 FIrekingdom lucky we not using 4k, that get expense for storage
23:21 tonsofpcs oh, i see
23:21 tonsofpcs it requires 'jupiter' installed to install 'jupiter config'
23:21 tonsofpcs also, i really need to find the reg key to disable 'ask user for everything' in vista x64....
23:22 Cprossu_Laptop damn
23:22 FIrekingdom i hope to not a push for 4k, but people want 1080 3d, and the glass has to 4k for it
23:23 Cprossu_Laptop well I got a config to upload and try
23:23 Cprossu_Laptop it took me quite a while to build it
23:23 tonsofpcs the glass doesn't have to "4k" for "1080 3d"
23:23 Cprossu_Laptop anyone here have steve's or CaptainBoden 's phone number?
23:24 tonsofpcs Cprossu_Laptop: 19:08:44 <@CaptainBoden> Steve and cory are both at the lab, someone should be able to let you in to the box
23:24 Cprossu_Laptop I saw that but no one at the lab is logged in irc
23:24 Cprossu_Laptop that's a problem.
23:28 FIrekingdom wtf? burn you own house down?
23:29 SparkyProjects Maybe the bank is foreclosing on them :P
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23:29 wannabe1987 Ponko92, speedrunnerg55 i'm here now...whats up?
23:30 Ponko92 speedy wanted you
23:30 wannabe1987 scary
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23:31 FIrekingdom you can buy house cheap now, why burn it
23:31 SparkyProjects So the bank don't get it
23:31 * Cprossu calls phone number for the lab
23:31 FIrekingdom you could at least rent that out, for something
23:32 wannabe1987 HOLY crap...60,000 people at the country music festival today...
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23:32 Cprossu wannabe1987: do you have anyone's phone number?
23:33 wannabe1987 like who?
23:33 Cprossu I need to talk with steve
23:33 wannabe1987 what steve?
23:33 Cprossu the av steve
23:33 wannabe1987 egrsteve or batsteve
23:33 Cprossu egrsteve
23:33 speedrunnerG55_ Hi :)
23:33 speedrunnerG55_ wannabe has mine ...stalker >_>
23:33 wannabe1987 :D
23:33 wannabe1987 do you have the lab's number?
23:33 speedrunnerG55_ Av steve ftw
23:33 wannabe1987 i have red's number, but not steves...
23:34 Cprossu I dialed (616) 719-0158 but no one answered
23:34 Cprossu do you have cory's?
23:34 wannabe1987 616-466-GEEK  try that
23:34 FIrekingdom does the lab has voip?
23:34 wannabe1987 i don't know...i'm closer to the lab than i usually am, but still 1/2 hour away
23:34 Cprossu trying, wannabe1987
23:34 FIrekingdom Skype will be good for it
23:34 wannabe1987 kk
23:35 FIrekingdom would*
23:35 Cprossu machine
23:35 wannabe1987 i have batsteve's number, i hav ere'ds number i have speed's number, i have BA's number
23:35 Cprossu is that moose saying "leave me a message and I'll call you back"?
23:35 wannabe1987 i havne't called it
23:36 Cprossu were you kidding me wannabe1987? xD
23:36 wannabe1987 huh?
23:36 Cprossu with that phone number
23:36 Cprossu just curious
23:36 wannabe1987 no..it on the site
23:36 Ponko92 ahh how i miss feburary
23:37 Cprossu red's on a plane probably
23:37 Cprossu hmm
23:37 speedrunnerG55__ joined #thegeekgroup
23:37 wannabe1987 Cprossu
23:37 FIrekingdom oversea?
23:37 wannabe1987 check PMs
23:37 Ponko92 London? :P
23:37 speedrunnerG55__ ?
23:37 FIrekingdom tell her use airplane mode until she back in united states
23:38 Ponko92 red is flying on a jet plane
23:38 Ponko92 well flying on a turbine powered plane
23:38 FIrekingdom dont want updates push in other country it gets expensive
23:38 speedrunnerG55_ left #thegeekgroup
23:39 speedrunnerG55__ Hmm?
23:39 Ponko92 O_O looks at speedrunnerG55__
23:39 speedrunnerG55__ Its getting bigger and bigger
23:39 FIrekingdom roaming data is expensive.
23:40 * Ponko92 throws shuriken at tail and slices with katana then fires 2 clips from the G18C
23:40 speedrunnerG55__ Whos number was that. Im tempted to *67 it
23:40 Seroster My meter rated for 10amps didnt like 2(TWO!!!!) amps through the probes. Piece of crap...
23:40 Ponko92 oh god speedrunnerG55__ innuendo
23:41 speedrunnerg55 left #thegeekgroup
23:41 speedrunnerG55__ is now known as speedrunnerG55
23:41 Ponko92 see it always works ;)
23:41 tonsofpcs Seroster: it doesn't have a separate probe plug spot for higher amperage?
23:41 Seroster So why did my probes that should be able to handle 25+ amps burn out at two?
23:41 Seroster tonsofpcs, The probe burned out, not the plug spot
23:42 Cprossu k we're ready to go
23:42 tonsofpcs alternatively, is it only rated for 25A in certain modes?
23:42 Cprossu woo!
23:42 tonsofpcs oh, weird
23:42 tonsofpcs Cprossu: found someone?
23:42 exor674 melted?
23:42 Cprossu yeah
23:42 Seroster That is kind of what I thought, tonsofpcs.
23:42 Seroster exor674, *Burned
23:42 Ponko92 NO FREAKING WAY
23:42 exor674 the *probe*?
23:42 Seroster The wire to the probe
23:42 exor674 wtf fail
23:43 tonsofpcs Cprossu: also, you should just set up a VM for configs that yuo let VNC in from folks so 5 of us don't have to install the software
23:43 Ponko92 http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81e2ece9/Super-Bowl-XLV-highlights why i miss feburary
23:43 tonsofpcs Seroster: burned? not insulation melted?
23:43 Seroster Kinda pissed about it.
23:43 Seroster tonsofpcs, BURNED
23:43 Ponko92 i was there :)
23:43 Seroster As in fire, flames, rapid oxidation of the insulation
23:43 tonsofpcs Seroster: that seems like a bit of fail
23:43 speedrunnerG55 WHOS NUMBER WAS THAT ahhhb
23:43 tonsofpcs speedrunnerG55: no clue
23:43 SparkyProjects Seroster, what time limit do the probes have ? also any bad connection cold cause a problem
23:43 Seroster They burned out within 2 seconds =P
23:44 Ponko92 oh Steve is here
23:44 kirE_ joined #thegeekgroup
23:44 tonsofpcs oh, hey, steve is at tggmc
23:44 Cprossu_Laptop it is
23:44 Cprossu_Laptop are you in?
23:44 tonsofpcs Cprossu: is it working? :D
23:44 FIrekingdom xp box, why not linux. unless you have special software that you need
23:45 Cprossu_Laptop I did not get that
23:45 speedrunnerG55 He is?
23:45 Cprossu_Laptop he's not logged in =(
23:45 Seroster And it was testing the setup for amptesting my (healthy) drill, 500watts
23:46 Ponko92 i wish i can get to that again
23:47 FIrekingdom if you battery dies for you drill it easy to fix it
23:47 SparkyProjects Firekingdom, it's a mains drill, not battery
23:47 Seroster Indeed.
23:48 SparkyProjects Seroster, it's one reason i prefer to use a clamp meter for ac current
23:48 Seroster SparkyProjects, I don't love you anymore.
23:48 Seroster RAS!
23:48 Ponko92 lol
23:49 Thermoelectric Could it have been the inrush current that caused it?
23:49 Seroster But I can forgive you for saying alternating current current ^^
23:49 Seroster Thermoelectric, It should be able to handle 2500watts safely, wich means 4kw peak, and it crashed and burned at 500w....
23:49 SparkyProjects You could measure a length of wire with a known resistance and measure voltage drop, as in a shunt
23:50 Thermoelectric This is true. What size are the wires?
23:50 Cprossu_Laptop helloooo????? are you there? steve?!
23:50 Seroster I have no idea, they were stock
23:50 Seroster And you bet your ass I'm going back with the meter to whine ^^
23:51 Thermoelectric Cut 'em open, measure them up.
23:51 Thermoelectric Pfft.
23:51 Seroster I will repair them if I can't get my money back
23:52 speedrunnerG55 Steeevveeee
23:52 Cprossu I hope he realizes his irc is dead
23:52 Cprossu dead
23:52 SparkyProjects Tell them that burning the wires out would only happen if the meter burned out too, and that didn't happen, so it must be faulty wires
23:53 wannabe1987 so Cprossu did you get ahold of anyone?
23:53 Cprossu yes
23:53 Cprossu but he sent me the pw
23:53 Seroster SparkyProjects, Presonaly I don't care if they just hook me up with a new pair of wires. If they burn out again I'll go back again ^^
23:53 Cprossu on a dead irc computer
23:53 Cprossu BAH
23:53 Cprossu !@$@$@#%@#%@#$@##$@#
23:53 Cprossu see how it doesn't move? he doesn't realize it's not connected....ffffffffffffffffffucking hell
23:54 Thermoelectric Yeah, he timed out like 4 hours ago.
23:54 Thermoelectric Anyone know his number?
23:54 Seroster lol
23:54 speedrunnerG55 O_o Cprossu?
23:55 SparkyProjects Seroster,  when you exchange the leads, geet a set of 4mm plugs and make a decent set for current measurement
23:55 Seroster I've seen a decent $100 clamp
23:55 Seroster But since I am broke...
23:55 speedrunnerG55 Nyan
23:55 wannabe1987 Thermoelectric whose number
23:56 Thermoelectric Steve's.
23:56 Seroster Steves number
23:56 wannabe1987 damn red blocked me
23:56 Seroster O
23:56 Ponko92 O_O what>
23:56 Ponko92 ?
23:56 Cprossu no, red's on a plane
23:56 speedrunnerG55 Red?
23:56 Cprossu I Thought
23:56 wannabe1987 no, she blockd me here and fb
23:57 Thermoelectric Hah, what'd you do?
23:57 wannabe1987 weren't you here?
23:57 Seroster SparkyProjects, I will get this tiny meters probes changed, if it burns out I will demand a brand new unit. Then I'll save up for a clamper.
23:57 Cprossu hey steve, notice the irc didn't move?!
23:57 Thermoelectric I may have been here, but I'm always AFK.
23:58 speedrunnerG55 wannabe1987: "got in the middle of somthin"
23:58 wannabe1987 she wanted her x dead, so i told him, he joined, she didn't like that so she bitched me out
23:58 FIrekingdom left #thegeekgroup
23:58 Thermoelectric :S
23:58 tggmc joined #thegeekgroup
23:58 speedrunnerG55 Seing red like that scared me
23:58 Thermoelectric STEVE!
23:58 wannabe1987 i don't have steve's number...he hasn't accebted my friend request yet
23:58 Cprossu YAY you figured it out!
23:58 speedrunnerG55 So i hid in a box
23:58 tggmc hello cprossu
23:58 BotSteve tggmc: I have the following messages for you:
23:58 BotSteve At 08:05Z, Cprossu asked me to tell tggmc BLORKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK! (at the time of this post, said post author downed one Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster, the effect of which was like having his brain smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick.)
23:59 Cprossu tggmc I did not get your message
23:59 SparkyProjects Stick with a decent multimeter, and buy a separate clamp adaptor, i use this one http://www.tequipment.net/ExtechCA300.asp (discontinued), but there are others
23:59 Cprossu rofl
23:59 wannabe1987 speedrunnerG55 i don't blame you for hiding
23:59 SparkyProjects You should watch my latest vid about meters Seroster :D
23:59 Cprossu it was disconnected but it sure looked connected didn't it?
23:59 Seroster I did, SparkyProjects =)
23:59 Cprossu so resend pw
23:59 Cprossu xD

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