Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-06-22

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00:00 Cprossu about 20 minutes ago roughly
00:00 Cprossu more like 30
00:00 Cprossu but interesting none-the-less
00:00 Cprossu there's a shit ton of powerlines down
00:00 tonsofpcs ouch.  hail? actgual touchdown?
00:01 Cprossu from what I could tell yes on touchdown
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00:01 Cprossu and the hail was at it's biggest 1 1/2"
00:02 Cprossu I'm glad to be here in AZ, lol
00:02 Cprossu it's 106F outside today
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00:10 KB3NZQ wtf is going on
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00:11 Cprossu storm rolled through, created a tornado and a bigass storm
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00:11 speed-mobile is now known as speedrunnerG55
00:11 Cprossu with l 1/2" hail and other power line felling goodies
00:12 KB3NZQ ok
00:12 KB3NZQ any damage to the lab
00:12 Cprossu don't know
00:12 Cprossu I ain't there
00:12 devast8a is now known as devast8a2
00:14 devast8a2 is now known as devast8a
00:14 KB3NZQ where are bat and bot steve
00:15 Cprossu_Laptop out of power
00:15 KB3NZQ ok
00:15 Cprossu_Laptop and egrsteve was at gvsu
00:15 Cprossu_Laptop at last contact
00:16 KB3NZQ ? gvsu ?
00:16 biotek left #thegeekgroup
00:16 SparkyProjects ergsteve was heading to lab
00:16 Cprossu_Laptop k
00:16 devast8a is now known as devast8a_
00:17 Cprossu_Laptop oh tonsofpcs, the faulty 10b2 nic
00:17 devast8a_ is now known as devast8a__
00:17 devast8a__ is now known as devast8a
00:17 Cprossu_Laptop is going to eat it.
00:17 Cprossu_Laptop xD
00:17 SparkyProjects KB3NZQ GVSU =  Grand Valley State University
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00:18 KB3NZQ ok
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00:44 Toastdude Any word from anyone?
01:02 speedrunnerG55 Hi
01:03 speedrunnerG55 Hi Hackbat WB
01:04 Hackbat hi HI
01:04 speedrunnerG55 Hi tonsofpcs
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01:05 injektion I consumed 1L of water in 20 minutes. Bad idea
01:06 * lwq_painting just got done digging ditches becuase of so much rain washed them away
01:06 lwq_painting is now known as lwq1996
01:06 speedrunnerG55 O_o
01:07 injektion I'll never do this again
01:08 Toastdude Wow.... why'd you do that?
01:08 injektion Spicy foods with no soda
01:09 Toastdude Nice....
01:09 speedrunnerG55 Wow
01:10 injektion The 1L of smart water was the cheapest thing they had
01:10 speedrunnerG55 Eat bread or yogert when that happens
01:10 speedrunnerG55 Or milk
01:10 speedrunnerG55 Oh
01:10 speedrunnerG55 You were out
01:11 Seroster Owtf
01:11 Seroster Botsteve dead?
01:11 Toastdude Power's out
01:11 Toastdude At Steve's
01:11 Seroster :c
01:11 Seroster Tornado?
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01:12 BotSteve Welcome back, boss.
01:12 Toastdude Lol
01:12 speedrunnerG55 Hi BatSteve WB
01:12 Toastdude Yay, you're back
01:12 BatSteve I'm back, thanks speed, how've you been?
01:13 * Obtuse_lappy is playing with Autocad 123D  ... Free from Autodesk
01:13 speedrunnerG55 Ive been good
01:13 Seroster Speakin of the devil!
01:13 Toastdude Hi BatSteve
01:13 Toastdude Ikr?
01:13 Seroster No more than a minute after I said "Where the fuck is BotSteve?" you rejoined
01:13 KB3NZQ batsteve any damage from the storm
01:13 Seroster It's some kind of mental shit, because me and BatSteve love one another so much
01:13 BatSteve hah, yeah, Seroster has the power to summon BotSteve from the grave
01:14 BatSteve KB3NZQ: a few tree limbs down and some pretty neat flooding
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01:14 Seroster BatSteve, It took a few pentagrams, a shitload of candles and a few hours of naked chanting, but hey, it worked!
01:14 BatSteve no serious damage
01:14 KB3NZQ ok
01:14 Seroster BotSteve, should I get a camera and do a video of the fucking deathtrap my parents call their home?
01:14 BotSteve Oh yeah!
01:14 BatSteve Seroster: I'm going to need pics of the naked chanting for...uh...personal research.
01:15 injektion_ Lo
01:15 BatSteve (:
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01:15 Seroster Live wire within millimeters of shorting to inproperly grounded metals
01:16 Seroster Three phase into the house in something that was made pre ww2
01:16 Seroster Most of the wiring in cloth insulated CRAP (the house is settling too, I wonder how much is stripped inside the walls)
01:16 Cprossu_Laptop lol
01:17 Seroster A GFI that rarely ever trips, and when it does you have to hold the lever up for a minute or two, or else it just falls back down
01:17 injektion That stuff can surely cause a fire
01:17 KB3NZQ my house still has knob and tube in it but it has all been disconnected
01:17 Seroster I got the kind of father that says "Pft. Worked for 50 years, will work another 50"
01:17 injektion So can stab lok breakers
01:17 Cprossu_Laptop k&t idnt as bad as most make it out
01:18 Cprossu_Laptop at least live and neutral are usually separated
01:18 Seroster You can have somewhat safe knt
01:18 eadthem usualy :p
01:18 SparkyProjects Seroster, it's even more scary when you open a piece of trunking packed with 3 phase circuits and find most of the insulation has been removed by mice :D
01:18 SparkyProjects And no, they weren't actually shorted, just resting in position
01:18 Seroster Yeah
01:18 Cprossu_Laptop there are those that believe well done K&T is safer than rolmax
01:19 Sgt_Lemming eh, 40Kw generator that hadn't been started in 5 years
01:19 Seroster Cprossu Imagine romax that went for a five hour cykle in a clohtesdryer
01:19 Sgt_Lemming it started, ran upto full speed for about 2 minutes and then siezed
01:19 Seroster Wouldnt surprise me if you got gigaohms from the 3p feed to the living room outlets =P
01:19 eadthem bad oil pump
01:20 Cprossu_Laptop Seroster even bare insulators k&t is pretty good
01:20 Cprossu_Laptop now if it's aluminum
01:20 Cprossu_Laptop that's a whole nother matter
01:20 Seroster Aye
01:20 Sgt_Lemming 16 ton generator moved 5 feet sideway and then the busbars leading out of it touched
01:20 injektion Periodic testing of a generator is part of the maintainence plan
01:21 Cprossu_Laptop Sgt_Lemming where was this?
01:21 injektion I let mine run monthly for 30 minutes
01:21 Sgt_Lemming bank I used to work for
01:21 Cprossu_Laptop ahhh.
01:21 KB3NZQ my grandpa's starts and runs for 10 min every other week
01:22 Sgt_Lemming one hell of a big bang, followed very quickly by an even bigger one
01:22 Cprossu_Laptop KB3NZQ that's smart lol
01:22 Sgt_Lemming it blew the 2000A fuses coming into the building complex
01:22 Sgt_Lemming took the whole building out for about 6 hours
01:22 SparkyProjects Output from a generator should be flexible, not busbars as vibration causes problems
01:22 injektion I don't trust the diesel engine I built to last long
01:23 Sgt_Lemming yeah
01:23 Seroster Durrp
01:23 Sgt_Lemming one of the many things they changed when they put the new one in
01:23 KB3NZQ it is built in to the controller all you do is tell it the day of the week and time and it keeps it in memory as to when it tests
01:23 Sgt_Lemming along with having to rebuild part of the parking garage to get the first one out
01:23 KB3NZQ it is a 17KW unit
01:23 SparkyProjects One of my duties was to run the generators on site each month, all 14 of them :P
01:23 Sgt_Lemming anyways, gotta get ready to head out
01:23 injektion I do all of mine manually
01:23 Toastdude Obtuse_lappy: Where'd you get Autocad 123D? From the AutoDesk website?
01:23 injektion Yes
01:24 Seroster I realised I was an idiot when I tried to buy proper connections for my fire extinguisher cylinder.   (mostly since none was found) - I might just cut the hose from the extinguisher and use a hoseclamp. _facepalm_
01:25 injektion http://www.123dapp.com/
01:25 SparkyProjects Seroster, what are you doing with it ?
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01:25 Seroster SparkyProjects, A compressor doesnt fit in my 1 room apartment
01:25 Seroster An avlong cylinder will =)
01:25 SparkyProjects Ah, so you want a reservior tank
01:25 Seroster And it hasnt got any co2 in it anymore
01:26 Seroster Indeed
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01:26 speedrunnerG55 HI RED!
01:26 Toastdude Hi Red
01:27 speedrunnerG55 WB
01:27 tggRED Hey internet. :)
01:27 Seroster My grandparents some way from here got a compressor. The company that I rent from got their own small gardening equipment repairshop and base down the street, And since they got a few tractors in there I bet they got a compressor
01:27 SparkyProjects Hi Red, has ergsteve got there yet ? he was heading for the lab a while ago
01:27 tggRED yes, egrsteve is here.
01:27 tggRED :)
01:27 Seroster If I ask nicely and accidently drop a few small bills on the floor I bet I could use it for a minute or two
01:27 SparkyProjects Thought he got lost in the floods :D
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01:30 SparkyProjects Seroster, fit a tyre valve to it, then when you go to the garage, use their compressor (i'm assuming you have garages with air on the forecourt)
01:30 SparkyProjects One guy in UK had a set of train air horns, and a big tank in the trunk, he used to fill the tank daily at a garage forecourt :D
01:30 Seroster Lol
01:31 Obtuse_lappy however autocad 123d doesn't look to useful as i can't seem to find a format that i could use to make a g code with
01:31 Obtuse_lappy i can save to a .dwg
01:31 speedrunnerG55 Cprossu: Are you here?
01:31 Seroster SparkyProjects, I think I'll just put a quick connection male on it, so you can pop off the handle, plug it into the cylinder and just let it and depress the handle to open it up
01:31 Obtuse_lappy but how do you get a .dwg to a g coded file
01:32 zero21764 so I have a question
01:33 zero21764 hello
01:33 tggRED and what is your question, dear sir?
01:34 zero21764 how do I ghost
01:34 speedrunnerG55 "/ns ghost <nick> (password)
01:34 Cprossu_Laptop tggRED does tggCaptainBoden know someone replied to his x-ray post on youtube?
01:35 tggRED I don't know Cprossu_Laptop  ....
01:35 Cprossu_Laptop THIS TRANSFORMER IS OUT OF GE 46-168740G1 MSI POWER UNIT SER NO 78512WK1. THE POWER UNIT IS FROM THE
01:35 Cprossu_Laptop MSI-850-II MEDICAL DIAGNOSTIC & THERAPEUTIC X-RAY GENERATOR. RATED AT 30A.
01:35 tggRED He's not at the lab anymore,  so i can't ask hi,
01:35 Seroster Calm down, mate? =P
01:35 Obtuse_lappy you can have Z ray. Z is much better than X
01:35 speedrunnerG55 O_o
01:36 Cprossu_Laptop http://iseliquidator.com/pix/13945.jpg
01:36 tggRED What does "ghosting" mean?
01:36 Cprossu_Laptop ^
01:36 Cprossu_Laptop http://iseliquidator.com/pix/13945a.jpg
01:36 zero21764 Im signed in as livefiretj and zero21764
01:36 zero21764 my nick should be livefire
01:36 BatSteve tggRED: if you get disconnected, but the server hasn't figured out to drop you yet, you can ghost (kill) the dead connection
01:36 Cprossu_Laptop tggRED print off those photos before they dissapear
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01:36 tggRED what photos? Cprossu_Laptop  ?
01:36 Cprossu_Laptop http://iseliquidator.com/pix/13945a.jpg
01:37 Cprossu_Laptop http://iseliquidator.com/pix/13945.jpg
01:37 speedrunnerG55 I told you waht to do
01:37 Seroster BatSteve...
01:37 Seroster How do you adress someone called Roger in a cocpit?
01:37 speedrunnerG55 I cant keep up with this ahhhhh
01:37 Seroster Is that prohibited? Might lead to misunderstandigns
01:37 speedrunnerG55 "/ns ghost <nick> (password)
01:38 Cprossu_Laptop now I am going to actually look for the documentation
01:38 SparkyProjects on a plane, Never say hi to your friend jack
01:38 BatSteve hahahahaha
01:39 BatSteve although the serious answer to your question is that we say "hey you" a lot more than you think
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01:39 KB3NZQ seroster i'll ask my brother-in-law tomorrow he is an air traffic controller
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01:39 SparkyProjects Cprossu, just in case, i have the photos saved
01:39 speedrunnerG55 Hijack!! >.< herd that before
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01:40 Seroster KB3NZQ, I just trumfed you, I went to a pilot, not an ATC ghoul =P
01:40 ynos *yay* power is back on.. anyone else lose power?
01:40 BatSteve ynos: me
01:40 zero21764 oh thanks batsteve
01:40 Seroster I didnt, ynos =D
01:40 KB3NZQ o
01:40 BatSteve zero21764: that wasn't me
01:40 zero21764 oh ok
01:41 ynos was a helluva nice storm though
01:41 Obtuse_lappy no power loss here
01:41 ynos <3 thunderstorms
01:41 Obtuse_lappy tggRED, any leakage issues at the lab?
01:42 KB3NZQ obtuse i have not talked to you since i used to be on twit irc
01:42 BatSteve kicking livefiretj per request
01:42 livefiretj was kicked by BatSteve: livefiretj
01:42 BatSteve zero21764: hopefully that helps
01:42 Seroster It wont
01:42 Obtuse_lappy hello KB3NZQ
01:42 Seroster It is still on the net
01:42 BatSteve yeah that's what I thought
01:42 Seroster If you are netadmin you could =D
01:42 zero21764 ...
01:42 Seroster Just wait for a few minutes and it will die
01:42 zero21764 ...
01:43 speedrunnerG55 ynos: Thunderstirms are awesome
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01:43 BatSteve BotSteve: when you take over the world, make me a netadmin
01:43 BotSteve When we take over the world, you're going to be first up against the wall.
01:43 BatSteve ...balls
01:44 speedrunnerG55 Balls?
01:44 BatSteve Yeah, it's my curse word of choice
01:44 speedrunnerG55 Oh^
01:44 Cprossu_Laptop that didn't look right
01:44 Toastdude Lol
01:45 ynos was funny listening to the lowell repeater for a while.. i think some of the people out there get tight pants when the weather gets rough.
01:45 Toastdude May I help, BatSteve?
01:45 Seroster Well, Yes and no
01:45 BatSteve Toastdude: help is always appreciated.  what are you helping with?
01:45 Seroster If you can handle BotSteve that would help him a lot
01:45 eadthem cant he handle him
01:45 eadthem he created him
01:45 BatSteve Seroster: pilot trivia, do you know what "roger" actually means?
01:45 Toastdude Taking over the world
01:46 Seroster But since BotSteve is silently building an army (at least when he aint on ... such sites)
01:46 BatSteve it's true.
01:46 Seroster BatSteve, I have no idea, but it sounds like the kind of random useless information that my broken down mind thrives off
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01:46 BatSteve (:
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01:47 Seroster .g what does roger actually mean?
01:47 BotSteve Seroster: http://www.internetslang.com/ROGER_26nbsp_3BTHAT.asp
01:47 BatSteve It means "I heard you".  Nothing more, nothing less.  Drives *real* pilots nuts when we hear new ones on frequency responding to things like "Are you inbound?" with "roger"
01:48 Seroster Tsk.
01:49 Seroster I thought it would be something fun, like an irritating technician in the beginning of flight history that interrupted the transmission by pulling the wires, and evryone got pissed at him and like "ROGER?! YOU FUCKIN WITH THE CABLES AGAIN?!" - and to make sure the message got where it was supposed to go they just called out his name as a curse
01:49 Seroster And you must agree that the hypothesis I just pulled out of my ass is far better than the one you came with =P
01:49 BatSteve it is
01:50 SparkyProjects Serosters mind was on Urban dictionary :P
01:50 BatSteve Well, the newest member of the ground crew (at our airport at least) is always called "numbnuts"
01:50 BatSteve if that helps
01:50 mantere and these days NATO uses Romeo instead of Roger
01:50 Seroster Is his real name roger? =P
01:51 Seroster Eh
01:51 BatSteve Romeo is phonetic for the letter R, yeah.
01:51 Seroster How about this one "YE I fucken hear ya!" < that one is widely used in 'stralia.
01:51 Seroster Or that might be scotland. Whatever.
01:51 Sgt_Lemming Sierra Golf Tango Lima Echo Mike Mike India November Golf
01:52 BatSteve hmm, trying to think of other cool radio trivia
01:52 Seroster Like the fact that Hertz couldnt find a good use for his new invention?
01:52 BatSteve Do you know why everybody on frequency says "say again" instead of "repeat"?
01:52 speedrunnerG55 Brb. Stopping by #ubuntu
01:52 Sgt_Lemming that Radio wasn't invented bt Marconi?
01:52 speedrunnerG55 Nevermind
01:53 eadthem say agan is easyer to understand than repeate
01:53 Seroster Sgt_Lemming,  That is what the freemasons wants you to believe, yes.  It was Hertz, but he is widely thought to be a tear.
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01:53 Seroster BatSteve, Because repeat could be confused with "retard" - wich is a word you pretty often yell at ATC?
01:53 Sgt_Lemming another one, the man who invented FM died a pauper
01:53 Cprossu_Laptop you could even say that at a cycle per second, Seroster
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01:54 Seroster I bet it was funny bit I didnt get it. xD
01:54 speedrunnerG55 Hi :)
01:54 BatSteve you're both fairly close actually - we get that one from the military
01:54 BatSteve Imagine bombs falling and guns going off and a dude covering his ear with one hand and shouting "repeat!  repeat!" into a radio with the other
01:55 Cprossu_Laptop I stil like seeing gear that's rated in megacycles, it just sounds so much cooler
01:55 BatSteve Sooner or later someone's going to hear "retreat! retreat!"
01:55 Seroster Yeah. The military got (not entirely unlike sailors) a need to use stupid words for easy stuff
01:55 Cprossu_Laptop my processor runs at 2 gigacycles.
01:55 Cprossu_Laptop xD
01:55 eadthem welll teracycles sounds like days
01:55 Seroster It is called Left, not port. Dipshits.
01:56 Seroster And I bet I said the wrong one. But hey, I got a 50% chance of being right!
01:56 eadthem i thought port was always the side a ship typicaly docked to the port on
01:56 Cprossu_Laptop ...---...
01:56 Toastdude Idk why, but my favorite tail # is November 761 Alpha Echo
01:56 BatSteve eadthem: nope, it's the left side of the ship as you stand facing the direction of travel
01:56 Seroster .g Bow =
01:56 BotSteve Seroster: http://mathewsinc.com/
01:56 Seroster Damnit BotSteve
01:57 eadthem it dose make sense however to have port and starboard
01:57 speedrunnerG55 Cprossu_Laptop: Whats wrong?
01:57 Cprossu_Laptop BotSteve: should I kick you in the hex?
01:57 BotSteve Ask again later!
01:57 eadthem left of what    but when you say port you know    left of the ship
01:57 Seroster eadthem, Well. In my particular language it doesnt make any sense whatsoever. =P
01:57 Cprossu_Laptop idk but you took too long, speedrunnerG55, I think I hit an iceburg
01:58 speedrunnerG55 Nuuuuuu
01:58 Seroster eadthem, eh. "HOLYFUCK a gigant icecube!!! TURN LEFT!"
01:58 Sgt_Lemming off out, back later yall
01:58 Cprossu_Laptop now I am going to my desktop to work out this x-ray shit
01:58 Seroster Is it somehow unclear where you are supposed to go? =P
01:58 BatSteve Cprossu_Laptop: also mary has died of cholera and one of your oxen has a broken leg
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01:59 BatSteve hmm dinnertime back in 15 or so
01:59 BatSteve is now known as BatSteve-Away
01:59 Seroster Aww cmon BatSteve-Away
02:00 Seroster Don't act like you got a life, we all know you don't, and we love you for it =P
02:00 BatSteve-Away Seroster: what, are you leaving before then?
02:00 Seroster No... but I might feel lonely
02:00 speedrunnerG55 O_o
02:01 BatSteve-Away allow me to draft a thoughtful, caring, and sensitive response to your loneliness.
02:01 BatSteve-Away ...eat me.
02:01 BatSteve-Away (:
02:01 speedrunnerG55 Seroster: Im here
02:01 speedrunnerG55 No BatSteve-Away
02:01 Seroster And speed isnt into the other other white meat
02:01 speedrunnerG55 I wont
02:01 speedrunnerG55 Lol
02:02 speedrunnerG55 Eat me xD
02:02 KB3NZQ testing my irc ping just went sky hi
02:03 eadthem FBI prob activated there wiretap  KB3NZQ
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02:03 KB3NZQ well i usually connect to hubbard.freenode.net and how i'm on holmes
02:04 KB3NZQ i went from connecting in Pittsburgh PA to london UK
02:05 KB3NZQ brb
02:05 eadthem o so its MI7 then
02:06 speedrunnerG55 ?!
02:06 speedrunnerG55 Why are you proxing?
02:06 speedrunnerG55 Proxying*
02:07 eadthem thats how a round robin sometimes works speedrunnerG55
02:07 eadthem ususaly you connect to a nearby server  sometimes  the faststis to respond is not so near by
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02:08 KB3NZQ back
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02:09 KB3NZQ via hubbard which is in Pittsburgh about 20 air miles from my house
02:09 Obtuse_lappy sigh, was searching for open source linux cad modeling. nothing seems too good
02:13 KB3NZQ obtuse you running ubuntu?
02:18 Seroster Cats are freaky. This one is sleeping with his eyes open with that white membrane over the eyes.
02:18 masterofmonks Nictating membrane
02:21 eadthem http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/password-recovery-gpu,2945.html
02:22 eadthem and you thought your passwords wer safe
02:23 Cprossu I never did
02:23 speedrunnerG55 is now known as cocacolla
02:23 eadthem see thats the pandoras box gameing has created
02:23 cocacolla Lol
02:23 eadthem finaly we have a 100W super computer   and o btw you can add 3 more just like it  to most computers :p
02:23 Cprossu In fact I think my mentionings of using GPU's to crack pw's on this channel predates that pos
02:23 cocacolla Hi everyone
02:23 Cprossu .log
02:23 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
02:24 eadthem ya probably
02:24 cocacolla is now known as SpeedRunnerG55
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02:25 Cprossu if you can get the hash table away from a server, all passwords are moot.
02:27 Cprossu I hear 1khz
02:27 Cprossu hello tggCaptainBoden
02:27 Cprossu orr steve
02:27 eadthem i wonder how easy it is to brute force all possable MD5 hashes for say   10 character passwords with GPU's
02:27 Cprossu that was def steve's tone gen though
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02:30 tggmc good morning
02:30 tggmc is chat dead?
02:31 Toastdude No
02:31 tggmc ok
02:31 Cprossu glad you are
02:31 Cprossu in irc finally
02:31 Cprossu we heard your tone gen
02:31 Cprossu all kinds of places
02:31 Cprossu @ tggmc
02:31 Cprossu what's up steve?
02:32 eadthem i do wish i had a GFX card that could do some of this APU stuff
02:32 tggmc wow, the wiper works, I didn't know I fixed it
02:32 Cprossu rofl
02:32 tggmc must be when I repaired the cable after cgris reversed them
02:33 Cprossu lol you're just screwing with us now
02:33 tggmc tone needs more cowbell
02:34 tggmc ok, time to go home
02:34 tggmc I have tuned 2 CB anntennas, swapped a camera,got a video feed from the lobby, with sound and umm thats about it
02:36 Cprossu tggmc get that network card ready to go?
02:36 tggmc not yet
02:36 tggmc it's in front of me now
02:37 Cprossu and is the switcher still working?
02:37 Cprossu it lost power earlier twice
02:37 BatSteve-Away is now known as BatSteve
02:37 tggmc yes it is
02:37 Cprossu that's good news.
02:37 tggmc I need to move the tower to it's propper home soon
02:38 tggmc so it will get schedualed down time at soem point
02:38 * BatSteve noms pizza loaded with veggies.  (and pepperoni.)
02:38 Cprossu just make sure you keep kidwells media converter hub on there
02:38 Cprossu and connected to the onboard nic
02:38 tggmc batsteve you have power yet?
02:38 Cprossu otherwise the software will have an anurism (however you spell that)
02:38 tggmc that I will, it's the magic making it work
02:39 Cprossu kidwell magic
02:39 Cprossu lol
02:39 tggmc along with all the magic server pixie dust
02:39 BatSteve tggmc: nope, connecting to IRC through smoke signals
02:39 Cprossu have to make sure not soo much magic pixie dust doesn't accumulate
02:39 Cprossu or it will stop working(!)
02:39 tggmc but I see botsteve online
02:39 BatSteve tggmc: /joke
02:40 tggmc ah ok
02:40 tggmc sorry a little tired here
02:40 BatSteve no worries
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02:40 tggmc or too much server pixie dust over here
02:40 Cprossu so did chris's new video cards get delivered yet?
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02:41 Cprossu I didn't remember to ask
02:41 tggmc I do not know
02:41 Cprossu hrmm
02:42 Cprossu OH I know
02:42 Cprossu can you let me remote in
02:42 tggmc I need to figure out what size BNC i need for this coax, it's belden so I hope I can get away with a genearic connector
02:42 Cprossu to the switcher computer?
02:42 Cprossu hahaha nice
02:42 tggmc yes I can
02:42 Cprossu actually how much longer are you going to be there tggmc first
02:42 SpeedRunnerG55 Hi steve
02:42 tggmc not long, getting ready to leave
02:42 Cprossu I plan on getting some sort of decent remote working
02:43 tggmc go for it
02:43 Cprossu ok, cool.
02:43 Toastdude Hi Steve and Steve!
02:45 Toastdude brb
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02:46 SpeedRunnerG55 0_o
02:47 tggmc ok, i'm out of here
02:47 Cprossu shit
02:47 Cprossu tggmc we're running through multiple routers aren't we?
02:47 SpeedRunnerG55 Cprossu: My swap partition is 1.6 Gb is that dynamic? Or should i make that bigger
02:48 tggmc switched yes, I don't knoa bout routers, possibly
02:48 Cprossu or perhaps we are not
02:48 Cprossu hrmmm
02:48 BatSteve SpeedRunnerG55: how much ram do you have?
02:48 Cprossu wow so I found the router you guys are running it's not what I expected
02:48 Cprossu so it's not an all in one at all
02:48 SpeedRunnerG55 512 Mb
02:48 Cprossu still you guys have a netgear consumer router
02:49 Cprossu on the lan/inet side?
02:49 tggmc we do?
02:49 Cprossu you must look
02:49 SpeedRunnerG55 Actually 375mb
02:49 tggmc so ti is
02:49 Cprossu that explains why it's such a piece of shit
02:49 BatSteve SpeedRunnerG55: 1.6gb is plenty
02:50 BatSteve the general rule of thumb is at least the same size as the amount of ram you have, at most double the amount of ram you have
02:50 tggmc ya, they can't handle the traffic we generate
02:50 BatSteve so you've got waay more swap than you need
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02:50 Cprossu I wonder if it's got a default password
02:50 tggmc maybe a household with a couple computers, but not all of this
02:50 SpeedRunnerG55 Lol ok
02:51 Cprossu lol at least not, tggmc, rofl
02:51 Cprossu yeah when you have some time I'll help you through building up a thinkcentre just for it
02:51 Cprossu ^ @ tggmc
02:51 Cprossu it's so easy a caveman could do it (I promise)
02:52 tggmc ok I'm off set it up as a unix or linux system, I hear thunder I should be goign
02:52 Cprossu good luck
02:52 tggmc thanks, I may have to take na alt rought at 4pm the eay I go was under waist deep water at an intersection
02:53 tggmc I will leave the MC mic on to pick up the thunder
02:53 Cprossu hrmm
02:53 Cprossu actually I wonder
02:54 Cprossu does teamviewer allow unrestricted access after you install it?
02:54 Cprossu @ tonsofpcs
03:00 Seroster Baaaaatsteve!
03:00 Seroster BatSteve!
03:00 BatSteve (:
03:00 Seroster Would you still love me if I put on a few pounds?
03:00 BatSteve No, not at all.
03:00 BatSteve ...i mean, yes.
03:00 Seroster A LOT of pounds?
03:01 Seroster Mate, I put on at least 40 pounds when I get an erection. Don't ask me about the physics. But its the truth.
03:01 BatSteve How many are we talking here?  Like Manuel Uribe?
03:01 Cprossu tggmc are you still there?
03:01 Seroster .g manuel uribe
03:01 BotSteve Seroster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Uribe
03:02 Seroster Well, overkill.
03:02 BatSteve hah that's awesome, wikipedia lists the 10 heaviest people in the world.  9 are americans
03:02 SpeedRunnerG55 BatSteve: ?
03:03 SpeedRunnerG55 Seroster: ?!
03:03 Seroster What?
03:04 SpeedRunnerG55 Why
03:04 Seroster Where?
03:04 SpeedRunnerG55 Scrooling up. Uve been kreepi g me out
03:04 Seroster Who?
03:04 BatSteve http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_heaviest_people
03:04 SpeedRunnerG55 Creeping
03:05 SpeedRunnerG55 You
03:05 Seroster SpeedRunnerG55, Hehe. Yeah. You and mr Grzyb can start a club =D
03:05 SpeedRunnerG55 Gryzb?
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03:05 Seroster Cory
03:05 Seroster I think i creeped him out about a month ago
03:07 Seroster BatSteve, are you surprised? KFC + McD + IQ<50 = Weight >400
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03:11 BatSteve you killed them
03:12 Seroster Sorry
03:12 Seroster I got nommies
03:13 BatSteve Although Antione-Laurent Lavoisier was an honest and energetic public official, he was caught up in the Terror and sentenced to death in 1794. As a scientific experiment, Lavoisier decided to try to determine how long his consciousness would continue after he was guillotined, by blinking his eyes for as long as possible. He blinked twelve times after his head was chopped off.
03:16 Cprossu whoops I got preoccupied
03:17 Cprossu going to attempt a few tries at camera switching, everyone watching, so ignore it
03:18 Seroster Lol BatSteve
03:18 Seroster Great
03:18 BatSteve I want to find that man's descendants and give them money.
03:19 Cprossu shit
03:19 Cprossu we are run through the manual switcher right now I think
03:19 Cprossu or the board's fucked up
03:22 SpeedRunnerG55 O_o
03:25 SpeedRunnerG55 AHHHHHHH
03:25 SpeedRunnerG55 AHHHHHHHH
03:25 Cprossu SpeedRunnerG55 what's the issue
03:26 SpeedRunnerG55 A TEXT FILE OPENED UP BY ITSELF WITH A SWASTICA ON IT
03:26 SpeedRunnerG55 UN ASCII ART
03:26 SpeedRunnerG55 IN
03:27 Cprossu yuck
03:27 Cprossu so roughly 3:54 ago was the last power failure
03:27 Cprossu at the lab
03:27 SpeedRunnerG55 Holy crap were did that come from
03:28 SpeedRunnerG55 The file is called xxx.txt
03:28 SpeedRunnerG55 Its freaking me out
03:29 Cprossu on your linux box or windows?
03:29 SpeedRunnerG55 Linux
03:30 Cprossu a xxx.txt file on a linux box?
03:30 Cprossu good job?!
03:30 SpeedRunnerG55 What is this?
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03:30 exor674 ... a file
03:30 exor674 named xxx.txt
03:30 Cprossu I'd say you are looking at a windows partition?!
03:31 SpeedRunnerG55 An external hdd
03:31 SpeedRunnerG55 But idk where it came from
03:31 Cprossu same diff
03:31 SpeedRunnerG55 Im going to do a search
03:31 Cprossu at least you didn't "MOUNT" it to a windows box
03:32 exor674 good luck searching, people seem to be using 'xxx' as a placeholder
03:32 SpeedRunnerG55 O_o
03:33 SpeedRunnerG55 But i have a question
03:33 SpeedRunnerG55 What is it
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03:34 exor674 it's a text file. with 'xxx' as it's name, and 'txt' as an extension
03:34 SpeedRunnerG55 ...
03:34 SpeedRunnerG55 I know that but what is its purpose
03:34 exor674 containing text
03:34 SpeedRunnerG55 ...
03:34 exor674 what is in it?
03:34 Seroster Well
03:34 Seroster BatSteve,
03:34 Seroster Im off to hit the hay
03:34 SpeedRunnerG55 A swastica
03:35 Seroster And I might beat my girlfriend a bit too. (And I say that only to fuck with anyone who wiretapped me)
03:35 SpeedRunnerG55 exor674: I found it
03:36 SpeedRunnerG55 There are 2 of them
03:36 SpeedRunnerG55 xx.txt and xxx.txt
03:36 exor674 and?
03:37 SpeedRunnerG55 Its scaring me
03:37 exor674 I mean what did you find?
03:37 SpeedRunnerG55 There location
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03:39 exor674 these are on your external HD?
03:39 SpeedRunnerG55 Yes
03:39 REDhome BatSteve: are you around?
03:39 BatSteve yep
03:39 exor674 this thing ever been out of your control?
03:39 SpeedRunnerG55 Its probable somehing from highschool
03:39 SpeedRunnerG55 No
03:40 SpeedRunnerG55 But just the way it opened by itself "or the way it apiered to
03:41 SpeedRunnerG55 ...w/e
03:41 exor674 opened itself?
03:41 SpeedRunnerG55 I might have hit end by acsident then hit rnter
03:41 exor674 I'd probably install something like clamav and scan the drive, but that seems like a weird *virus*
03:41 SpeedRunnerG55 Enter
03:42 exor674 but this seems like someone is just fucking with you
03:43 exor674 ( and hitting end then enter is *NOT* opening by itself )
03:43 SpeedRunnerG55 I know.
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03:46 westmi someone hijack your shit? lol
03:47 SpeedrunnerG55 me?
03:47 SpeedrunnerG55 my mom did
03:47 SpeedrunnerG55 xD
03:51 SpeedrunnerG55 eh?
03:51 * SpeedrunnerG55 pokes around
03:51 lwq1996 DONT POKE ME
03:51 * SpeedrunnerG55 pokes lwq1996
03:52 * SpeedrunnerG55 pokes REDhome
03:52 * lwq1996 back hands speedrunnerG55
03:52 lwq1996 lol its all cool
03:52 * astro73|derrial pokes lwq1996
03:52 * SpeedrunnerG55 pokes BatSteve
03:52 * REDhome hugs exor674 SpeedrunnerG55 lwq1996 astro73|derrial and BatSteve <3
03:53 lwq1996 =P im happy now
03:53 * exor674 glomps REDhome!
03:54 Cprossu hrmm
03:54 * Cprossu hugs REDhome
03:54 * SpeedrunnerG55 pokes Cprossu
03:54 astro73|derrial :)
03:54 Cprossu I've been busy doing stuff
03:54 * astro73|derrial hugs REDhome back
03:54 * SpeedrunnerG55 hugs red back
03:54 * Cprossu puts on some pointy object resistant armour, that hurt!
03:54 * Druidic_Rifleman hugs red
03:54 * BatSteve lights fireworks
03:54 * REDhome hugs Cprossu and can't believe that she missed him.
03:55 lwq1996 lol
03:55 lwq1996 batsteve the 4th is not here yet
03:55 Cprossu I hope steve logs in before he crashes on his bed
03:55 Druidic_Rifleman I saw a neat pick of halyqiun and Poision ivy today
03:57 SpeedrunnerG55 holy crap did you see googles homepage?
03:57 Druidic_Rifleman Also.... they're making a miltary hospital show....
03:57 Druidic_Rifleman it doesn't look as good as mash did... and not as funny
03:57 BatSteve Druidic_Rifleman: oh, yeah, I know that picture!
03:57 BatSteve (:
03:57 astro73|derrial Druidic_Rifleman: that's like topping elvis or the beatles
03:58 SpeedrunnerG55 Cprossu, http://www.google.com/logos/2011/murakami_summer-hp.png
04:00 * lwq1996 is bored
04:00 BatSteve .g pandemic 2
04:00 BotSteve BatSteve: http://www.crazymonkeygames.com/Pandemic-2.html
04:00 BatSteve there you go lwq1996
04:00 * Druidic_Rifleman gives lwq1996 crack and a rocket launcher
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04:01 BatSteve Druidic_Rifleman: PCP works better
04:02 Toastdude Pandemic 2 is sickly fun...
04:02 Druidic_Rifleman Hmmmm I am a fan of Mini dots MDMA and LSD mix
04:02 Toastdude Hi REDhome!
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04:03 exor674 ...
04:03 * lwq1996 snorts the crack and plays pandemic 2 while shooting people with the rocket launcher
04:03 Cprossu hey egrsteve
04:04 Toastdude ....
04:04 Cprossu 1) did you leave it on the manual switcher, 2) were you trying to make a new config file, CFGSET03?
04:04 egrsteve hello, you get a remote working or at least ideas
04:04 Cprossu yeah remote is a go
04:04 Cprossu not sure if it will survive a reboot yet
04:04 Cprossu but it should
04:04 egrsteve I left it on manual (roof cam is not patched into it yet) I was not, but someone else may have
04:05 SpeedrunnerG55 histeve
04:05 SpeedrunnerG55 histeve *
04:05 egrsteve so how are you controllign it?
04:05 SpeedrunnerG55 hi steve*
04:05 egrsteve hi speed
04:05 Druidic_Rifleman KILL EVERY ONE YAY!!!
04:05 astro73|derrial hey egrsteve
04:06 egrsteve hello astro
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04:07 astro73|derrial egrsteve: lab tomorrow, right?
04:07 egrsteve correct, EL wire
04:07 astro73|derrial cool
04:08 astro73|derrial i'm kinda excited; never actually seen the stuff, just videos from ladyada (?)
04:08 REDhome Hey egrsteve <3
04:08 SpeedrunnerG55 red you forgot about Toastdude
04:09 REDhome Is he here?
04:09 Toastdude Yep
04:09 Toastdude I said Hi
04:09 LinuxH4x0r I've taken over sf_x for the night
04:09 REDhome OMGSH Hi Toastdude ::hugs::
04:09 Toastdude You ignored me.... ;)
04:09 BatSteve LinuxH4x0r: rule it with an iron fist!
04:09 LinuxH4x0r and I'm going to stay here till I figure out these f***ing msp430s
04:09 Toastdude Yay, hugs! ::hugs::
04:09 REDhome Loves you!!
04:10 egrsteve hi red
04:10 LinuxH4x0r luckily its pretty dead here anyways
04:10 SpeedrunnerG55 lol hi LinuxH4x0r
04:10 LinuxH4x0r so I should be able to work in peace till 8 or 10 am
04:10 LinuxH4x0r hi speed
04:10 SpeedrunnerG55 WB
04:10 LinuxH4x0r with A/C!!!!
04:11 astro73|derrial LinuxH4x0r: what about them?
04:11 Toastdude REDhome: Bit personal ;) jk
04:11 LinuxH4x0r who?
04:11 REDhome Meow!
04:11 egrsteve moo?
04:11 lwq1996 is druidic_rifleman here
04:12 Druidic_Rifleman Yeah
04:12 lwq1996 im clony101 i sent you a friends request on youtube
04:12 Druidic_Rifleman Sigh i don't think i will whipe out all the humans :(
04:12 Druidic_Rifleman AHHH ok
04:12 Druidic_Rifleman you could of messaged me on there LOL
04:12 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: kiwifrog on Power Wheels Robot
04:12 lwq1996 i did too
04:13 SpeedrunnerG55 did red just....meow?
04:13 SpeedrunnerG55 0_0
04:13 * SpeedrunnerG55 runs away from the furry
04:14 Druidic_Rifleman Whats Up  REDhome
04:14 * exor674 gives REDhome scritches
04:14 BatSteve don't bother running, there's at least two more of them in here that I know about
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04:14 BatSteve probably more than that
04:14 Toastdude I'm allergic to cats....
04:14 egrsteve anyone have thoughts on a place to buy low cost BNCs for RG6?
04:14 REDhome lol
04:14 REDhome hey druidic
04:14 egrsteve so am I toastdude
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04:15 Druidic_Rifleman REDs a furry now?
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04:15 SpeedrunnerG55 egrsteve, the cable?
04:15 egrsteve no the connector
04:15 egrsteve I was thinging this http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/BNC-6/BNC-MALE-CONNECTOR-CRIMP-ON-RG-6-CABLE//1.html
04:15 Toastdude I found out when I went into a house filled with 23 cats... Didn't turn out well...
04:15 egrsteve get 100 for 55
04:16 SpeedrunnerG55 eh idk
04:16 SpeedrunnerG55 is that the twinst on type?
04:16 SpeedrunnerG55 my browser is stillwarming up
04:17 egrsteve no crimp, I don't want to deal with twist on
04:18 Cprossu yeah we don't need any more interesting radio demodulations, huh?
04:18 Druidic_Rifleman .... I wish i had the skills to be a bio chemist....
04:18 Druidic_Rifleman the idea of creating viruses and such..
04:18 Cprossu I fucking knew it
04:18 egrsteve ?
04:18 Cprossu for Druidic_Rifleman if it doesn't have to do with death, destruction, or killing, he's not interested!
04:19 SpeedrunnerG55 dont ask me then
04:19 egrsteve I talked to someone about the demod, it's dependent on the legth of thet cable thats it, even good cables can do it
04:19 Cprossu damn
04:19 Cprossu so it's just like antennas then
04:19 astro73|derrial did nothing of interest happen at the lab today? I thought he usually had the captain's blog up by now
04:19 Cprossu get a multiple/division of the wavelength and it's over for you
04:20 egrsteve basicly
04:20 Cprossu well at least it's an easy fix
04:20 egrsteve he had heard of building low pass filters to block the RF
04:20 egrsteve if you can't change the length
04:22 Cprossu all right wish me luck I am going to see if this will survive a reboot, uptime is 04:50:00
04:23 egrsteve good news the coax I have at the lab is RG6 compatable or rg59/u so connectors shouldn't be too bad
04:23 Druidic_Rifleman I might kill every one
04:24 Druidic_Rifleman But i doubt it :(
04:26 Cprossu egrsteve, fuck. it came back up all right but it's not accepting the connection
04:26 egrsteve thats not good
04:26 Cprossu well this is why we test these things
04:28 egrsteve indeed it is
04:29 Cprossu hrmm
04:29 Cprossu it worked when I hit send message
04:29 Cprossu instead of connect o_o
04:29 Cprossu well fidgity is ok
04:29 Cprossu just as long as I can reproduce it
04:30 Druidic_Rifleman Sigh I didn't kil the USA madagascar and indonisia
04:30 Cprossu cool, uptime is now 04:57:50
04:30 Cprossu so rebooting the pc didn't reboot the mcp
04:30 Cprossu @ egrsteve
04:30 egrsteve good no know
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04:31 egrsteve so once it has loaded it's firmware it's good
04:31 Cprossu yeah
04:31 Druidic_Rifleman OOOOOH CANADA is dead So much for socialisted medicine now XD
04:31 Cprossu I wish I could figure out how to autoset the clock to utc
04:31 egrsteve oh remote clock set
04:32 Cprossu did you see anything about doing it in the documentation you red, egrsteve?
04:32 Cprossu just so we can run an atomic program on the pc
04:32 egrsteve can you control the 25 button pad
04:32 Cprossu doesn't look like it
04:32 Cprossu there's a bug in the softpanel software I haven't been able to work out
04:33 egrsteve oh you want computer clock control, I think there maybe a timecode in that can bet the clock probably simpte
04:33 Cprossu something involving liscensing that's loaded on floppy disks
04:33 Cprossu is one of the issues
04:33 tonsofpcs hi
04:33 Cprossu that I ran into with various pieces of the JNS system
04:33 egrsteve i see, time for me to sleep
04:33 REDhome g'night internet.
04:33 Cprossu yeah take it easy
04:33 Cprossu night REDhome and egrsteve
04:33 egrsteve night redhome
04:34 REDhome night Cprossu & egrsteve
04:34 egrsteve tonsofpcs you know a source for low cost RG6 bnc connectors
04:34 Toastdude Aww.... goodnight REDhome
04:34 REDhome g'night Toastdude
04:34 Cprossu I bet he does.
04:34 tonsofpcs egrsteve: RG6? srsly?
04:34 Cprossu or at least his station might
04:35 egrsteve well belden 9116
04:35 tonsofpcs most of our connectors end up coming from newark.  We use 1855A mostly
04:35 egrsteve seems to fit the cable
04:35 tonsofpcs which reminds me, I need to order some more BNCs tomorroww
04:35 egrsteve it's a series 6 cable so I assuem thats rg6
04:35 tonsofpcs egrsteve: what's it say on the jacket?
04:37 egrsteve belden 9116 duobond II 75 ohm series 6 1c18 E108998 CATV or CM
04:37 tonsofpcs if i had my way, we'd pull all of our baseband RG6 and replace with 1855A or similar
04:37 lwq1996 ugggh taking to long to kill people
04:37 NeWtoz arrg, it's like my two co-workers don't remember watching this same episode not too long ago
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04:38 SpeedrunnerG55 hi
04:38 tonsofpcs for ethernet, I'm <3ing this new 10GX32 stuff.
04:38 SpeedrunnerG55 hi tonsofpcs
04:38 tonsofpcs I have a 500ft patch cable :D
04:38 SpeedrunnerG55 0_0
04:38 tonsofpcs hi SpeedrunnerG55
04:38 SpeedrunnerG55 tonsofpcs, how is that possible
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04:38 tonsofpcs SpeedrunnerG55: 10GX32 :D
04:39 SpeedrunnerG55 waht is that
04:39 SpeedrunnerG55 coax?
04:39 Druidic_Rifleman NOOOOOOOOOO this time i didn't get the middel east......
04:39 SpeedrunnerG55 ?
04:39 tonsofpcs oh, and I've used it on the 'far' end of a switch > patch > 100' run  over cat5
04:39 tonsofpcs (at 100)
04:39 tonsofpcs SpeedrunnerG55: bonded pair ethernet.
04:39 tonsofpcs > cat6a
04:39 SpeedrunnerG55 bonded?
04:39 SpeedrunnerG55 what?
04:40 tonsofpcs ya know how cat5/6 has twists on pairs?
04:40 SpeedrunnerG55 yes
04:40 tonsofpcs ya know how when you bend cables, those twists deform?
04:40 SpeedrunnerG55 yeahhh kinda
04:40 tonsofpcs imagine if the twists were superglued together so that didn't happen.
04:40 SpeedrunnerG55 o_o
04:40 tonsofpcs yea, it's pricy.
04:40 tonsofpcs and a PITA to terminate too.
04:41 tonsofpcs but you can't argue with the results
04:41 SpeedrunnerG55 is it shielded/
04:41 Cprossu yay, someone else uses the term PITA here
04:41 SpeedrunnerG55 ?
04:41 tonsofpcs nope
04:41 Cprossu SpeedrunnerG55, not explaining it to you again!
04:41 tonsofpcs Cprossu: neighbor back home had a dog named PITA.
04:41 SpeedrunnerG55 what?
04:42 tonsofpcs SpeedrunnerG55: it isn't shielded.
04:42 SpeedrunnerG55 ok.
04:42 * tonsofpcs is digging through, trying to find good connectors for steve
04:42 astro73|derrial what frequency (about) of EMI does gemini produce?
04:42 egrsteve gemini is tuned to about 75 khz
04:43 tonsofpcs egrsteve: can they tune it for 75MHz instead? :D
04:43 SpeedrunnerG55 ?
04:43 egrsteve i doubt it, it's the resonate frequancy of the coils
04:43 tonsofpcs was kinda joking
04:44 astro73|derrial I'm looking up EL wire, and lady ada (adafruit industries) says they run at 60-2000 Hz, but idk what the higher freq will do
04:44 egrsteve but getting it up to 200kz+ would make a great PWM source for sound
04:44 Druidic_Rifleman XD this game is fun XD die humans die!!!
04:44 SpeedrunnerG55 a tesla coild works by matching a large L with a small C?
04:45 SpeedrunnerG55 to match the difference in coil size?
04:45 egrsteve it's a matter of capacitance and inductance that and driving the load
04:45 egrsteve somehting like that
04:46 Cprossu we never joke about things deemed impossible here, tonsofpcs
04:46 Cprossu if we think we can do it it will be done
04:46 Cprossu no matter how ludicrous it sounds
04:46 astro73|derrial true story
04:46 SpeedrunnerG55 like, the secondary has a large L but small C but the pri has large C but small L
04:46 tonsofpcs Cprossu: wouldn't be worth it.
04:46 astro73|derrial and i've been around for like a month
04:46 SpeedrunnerG55 ?
04:46 SpeedrunnerG55 so there tuned to the same resonant frequency?
04:47 tonsofpcs egrsteve: we use kings connectors... trying to see if they have them for 9116
04:47 tonsofpcs you might end up with canarys
04:47 egrsteve ah, ok
04:47 tonsofpcs *Canare
04:47 tonsofpcs which would be odd, but possible
04:47 SpeedrunnerG55 am i lost?
04:47 tonsofpcs RG6 we have bins of twist-ons
04:47 egrsteve ya, I knew what you ment
04:48 egrsteve I liek Canare's phone plugs (1/8 & 1/4) as well as there quadstar mic cable
04:48 * tonsofpcs likes having other people deal with that stuff
04:48 tonsofpcs (did you see my Whirlwind pictures?)
04:48 egrsteve no
04:48 egrsteve oh wait yes
04:48 egrsteve the iso split
04:49 tonsofpcs yea
04:49 tonsofpcs actually, all our twist-ons might be Amphenol
04:49 egrsteve those are handy
04:49 tonsofpcs mind yuo, the amphenol factory is closer to my apartment than the IBM buildings...
04:49 tonsofpcs (well, now it's just offices, i think)
04:49 egrsteve nice, walk down the street pick up connetors
04:50 tonsofpcs well, this was the cable assembly facility
04:50 egrsteve ah ok
04:50 tonsofpcs still, I bet RJ21Xs (and 'amphenol connectors') werre cheap ;)
04:50 egrsteve still, I bet they has connectors
04:50 egrsteve * had
04:51 SpeedrunnerG55 brb imah visit ##electronics for a wile
04:51 Cprossu oh egrsteve did anyone move the other duet upstairs yet?
04:51 tonsofpcs you don't have to leave to do that, SpeedrunnerG55
04:51 egrsteve not that I know of
04:52 egrsteve I can ask it get moved tomarrow
04:52 Cprossu BotSteve: tell captainboden egrsteve, tonsofpcs, and me would like it if it's bossible to get the other Duet keyer up in master control tomorrow/this morning :)
04:53 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when captainboden is around.
04:53 Cprossu bossible rofl
04:53 Cprossu BotSteve: tell captainboden "*Possible even"
04:53 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when captainboden is around.
04:54 tonsofpcs BotSteve: tell tggmc Hi person in Master Control!  We were wondering if some kind folks could bring the other Chyron (and other video keying gear) up to MC!  See tonsofpcs, Cprossu, or egrsteve for details if needed (it's big and heavy and is more than a one-person job).
04:54 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I'll pass that on when tggmc is around.
04:54 Cprossu BatSteve: is it possible to put in a BotSteve: don't tell  command?
04:54 BatSteve Cprossu: ooh, good call!
04:55 tonsofpcs looks like kings 'K2' group is RG6...
04:55 BatSteve Cprossu:  https://github.com/Steve-V/tgg-BotSteve/issues/50
04:55 Cprossu btw tonsofpcs, I must admit, teamviewer kicks ass
04:55 BatSteve Cprossu: anything is possible, the question is how much work is it.
04:56 BatSteve right now, I'm about to go to bed.  but it's an excellent idea, and I'll see what I can do.
04:56 Cprossu :)
04:56 Cprossu night BatSteve
04:56 BatSteve night all
04:56 BatSteve is now known as BatSteve-Away
04:56 tonsofpcs g'nite
04:56 tonsofpcs Cprossu: i've used it twice.
04:57 Cprossu I'm going to get some sleep, egrsteve, and see how long I can leave teamviewer opened
04:57 tonsofpcs (well, 4 times if you count each login to the chyron)
04:57 egrsteve ok
04:57 Cprossu I've done all the damage I can do tonight I think
04:57 Cprossu I still can't believe we're running a fucking netgear router
04:57 lwq1996 and you did all the damage you could lastnight to that motor
04:57 Cprossu ooh I should look at the cable modem
04:58 Cprossu lwq1996 you mean damage I did to audacity
04:58 tonsofpcs egrsteve: http://www.cablesnmor.com/steren-200-122-rg6-bnc-twist-on.aspx is basically what's on all of our RG6
04:58 Cprossu those were all "simulated" motors
04:58 tonsofpcs the stuff is horrid, any minor bend change in the cable displaces the connector, etc....
04:58 Cprossu lwq1996 did you get to hear my softstart attempt?
04:58 egrsteve ya, no twist on here
04:58 tonsofpcs oo, wait
04:58 tonsofpcs egrsteve: !
04:59 egrsteve would a 2065-10-9 Kings work
04:59 tonsofpcs egrsteve: the local electronics store started stocking pull-crimp stuff
04:59 tonsofpcs 2065-10-9 sounds like what I use on 1855A *checks*
04:59 egrsteve pull or compression
04:59 tonsofpcs pull-driven compression
04:59 egrsteve ah
04:59 Cprossu lwq1996: http://www.sendspace.com/file/mevn6w
04:59 * tonsofpcs finds link
05:00 tonsofpcs no, 1694A is about halfway between 'mini RG59' (1855A) and 'normal' RG59
05:00 tonsofpcs you have RG6
05:00 egrsteve ok
05:00 egrsteve that bigger]
05:00 tonsofpcs kings doesn't seem to sell BNCs for RG6
05:00 tonsofpcs ya
05:00 egrsteve http://www.markertek.com/Connectors-Adapters/Video-Connectors/BNC-Connectors/Canare-Corporation-Of-America/BCP-C53A.xhtml?BCP-C53
05:01 egrsteve but more than I want to spend
05:01 tonsofpcs egrsteve: http://unicornelex.com/icmrg6universalbncgreen25pack.aspx
05:02 egrsteve nice, compression is nce
05:02 tonsofpcs wait, it says for 1694 aand 9116?
05:02 tonsofpcs is 9116 'mini' RG6 maybe?
05:02 egrsteve no, I am holding a piece, it's full dia
05:02 egrsteve .27 ish
05:03 tonsofpcs RG6 is the stuff the cable company runs to your house mostly (unless they're pulling hardline/heliax)
05:03 egrsteve correct
05:03 Cprossu I also almost got a cool spindown noise out of that too, lwq1996
05:03 Cprossu so many harmonics are in a motor spin up and down
05:03 lwq1996 lol...
05:03 tonsofpcs hmm, maybe the 1694A kings stuff will work
05:04 egrsteve I need to check if we have some better cable for making patch cords with
05:04 tonsofpcs that said, looking at getting the tools, the connectors, and everything, this ICM stuff is _very_ tempting
05:04 tonsofpcs well, it's great cable, it's the connnectors that suck generally
05:04 egrsteve thats why I wondered if it would work, as it cross refed there
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05:04 Cprossu those crimp...wtf
05:05 * Cprossu heads on over to his netbook
05:05 tonsofpcs Cprossu: hmm?
05:05 tonsofpcs wow, belden bought ICM
05:06 tonsofpcs egrsteve: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5JTeSv5kCo
05:06 tonsofpcs err, klined?
05:07 tonsofpcs 01:06:53 < cmrn> seems the web client got klined
05:08 tonsofpcs botsteve: tell egrsteve to check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5JTeSv5kCo
05:08 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
05:08 tonsofpcs thanks :)
05:10 SpeedrunnerG55 what does k-lined mean?
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05:11 tonsofpcs killed by the server
05:11 astro73|derrial SpeedrunnerG55: it means the server operators don't like you and want you really gone
05:11 SpeedrunnerG55 o_o
05:12 Sgt_Lemming G_line is even worse
05:12 SpeedrunnerG55 whats that
05:12 Sgt_Lemming as it's a global ban from teh entre server network
05:12 SpeedrunnerG55 0_0
05:12 Sgt_Lemming so ANY freenode server
05:12 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 3 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: randommscience117 on Magnetic Properties of Solids.....Slurpy on Steam distillation of Catnip to produce Nepetalactone.....jaaz95 on done with the fusor time for something new.. hmmmm. how about a cyclotron
05:12 * lwq1996 thinks that he should go to bed
05:13 * tonsofpcs finds it odd that so many geeks use the web client
05:13 Cprossu amrica
05:13 Cprossu hrmm
05:13 Cprossu see that k-line?
05:13 Cprossu it took out all the web ircers and banned them
05:13 astro73|derrial tonsofpcs: yeah, it is odd
05:14 astro73|derrial Cprossu: hm?
05:14 SpeedrunnerG55 wow
05:14 Cprossu wow
05:14 exor674 Cprossu: I imagine some IRCop fucked up and used too big of a stick on the wrong person
05:14 astro73|derrial probably
05:14 Cprossu yeah no kidding
05:15 Cprossu what's the support channel for freenode again?
05:15 exor674 #freenode
05:15 Cprossu because it's not ##help ##support or ##freenode
05:15 astro73|derrial g'night
05:15 astro73|derrial Cprossu: ## is only for unnofficial channels
05:17 tonsofpcs Cprossu: use a real client :D
05:17 Cprossu <shadowmaster> Cprossu: someone joined an auto K-line channel while on webchat, apparently
05:17 tonsofpcs lol
05:17 Cprossu I do but my netbook doesn't deserve one
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05:18 Sgt_Lemming auto k-line channel...
05:18 greg Ok.....
05:18 Sgt_Lemming that's a bit harsh
05:18 Cprossu btw don't fucking join #amrica
05:18 greg ..../nick druid
05:18 Cprossu we're working on it
05:18 greg what did i do.....
05:18 Cprossu <shadowmaster> Cprossu: someone joined an auto K-line channel while on webchat, apparently
05:18 Cprossu ^ this is what happened
05:18 Cprossu just chill
05:18 greg is now known as driud
05:18 driud ... soooo i was banned on accident?
05:19 Sgt_Lemming yup
05:19 driud ah...
05:19 driud good
05:19 Sgt_Lemming cause someone joined a channel that is auto k-line
05:19 Cprossu and at least hundreds of others
05:19 driud i an not Gonna get in shit for ban avassion
05:19 Sgt_Lemming and k-line bans all users using that string
05:19 Sgt_Lemming np[e
05:19 Cprossu it's a free-for-all in #freenode lol
05:19 Sgt_Lemming nope even
05:19 driud Frig
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05:20 Cprossu be quiet, SpeedrunnerG55
05:21 Cprossu it's a support channel with ircops lol
05:21 SpeedrunnerG55 ok
05:21 Cprossu they have big sticks
05:21 tonsofpcs anyway, i'm off to bed
05:21 tonsofpcs i left msg for steve
05:21 tonsofpcs gn'te all
05:22 Cprossu night!
05:23 Cprossu BotSteve: tell egrsteve <shadowmaster> Cprossu: someone joined an auto K-line channel while on webchat, apparently <- that's what happened
05:23 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
05:23 LinuxH4x0r So i'm designing my electric car controller tonigh
05:24 LinuxH4x0r and I wanted to run this by someone with a bit more experience than me
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05:24 Cprossu o_o
05:24 Cprossu WTF did he do?
05:24 LinuxH4x0r http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRCd#K-line
05:25 Cprossu yes but did you read above LinuxH4x0r?
05:25 Cprossu <shadowmaster> Cprossu: someone joined an auto K-line channel while on webchat, apparently <- that's what happened
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05:25 LinuxH4x0r oddly enough someone just linked me to that in another room
05:25 Cprossu rofl
05:25 Cprossu I asked nicely and was told nicely
05:26 LinuxH4x0r so for my ev charger I was thinking I could take 120vac rectify it and pwm it down to the pack voltage
05:26 LinuxH4x0r anyone see anything terribly wrong with that?
05:27 Cprossu other than voltage transients
05:27 Cprossu or what happens when a battery shorts out?
05:27 LinuxH4x0r ?
05:27 Cprossu think about your voltages
05:28 Cprossu and what a dead short or open would do on your pack
05:28 Cprossu in any single cell or whole battery
05:28 LinuxH4x0r how is a short with this any worse than any other charging system?
05:28 Cprossu because the voltage has no regulation
05:29 Cprossu or feedback
05:29 LinuxH4x0r ok
05:29 LinuxH4x0r so if I added some sort of feedback it would work?
05:29 Cprossu also are these lead acid batteries?
05:29 LinuxH4x0r thats the plan for now
05:29 LinuxH4x0r deep cycle
05:30 Cprossu gel or wet?
05:30 LinuxH4x0r not sure yet
05:30 Cprossu with wet you have to avoid boiling them off.
05:30 LinuxH4x0r does it make a difference for how they charge?
05:30 Cprossu yes.
05:31 LinuxH4x0r so I have to have current limiting
05:31 LinuxH4x0r i figured internal resistance would take care of that but I guess not
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05:33 LinuxH4x0r i'm used to doing stuff with low voltages at less than 10 amps
05:33 LinuxH4x0r so a 500 amp motor controller is new territory for me
05:33 LinuxH4x0r I figured it should all just scale up if done right
05:36 Cprossu just remember, things that were small issues with a scale systemw
05:36 Cprossu will be compounded when you go full scale
05:37 LinuxH4x0r right
05:38 Cprossu a battery thermal runaway is what you want to avoid in a big scale
05:38 Cprossu because they aren't fun.
05:38 LinuxH4x0r yeah
05:39 LinuxH4x0r obviously it will need temperature and current sensing
05:42 LinuxH4x0r I'm off for then night
05:42 LinuxH4x0r i think I need to go home and sleep
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05:59 Sgt_Lemming mmmm, amphetamines
05:59 Sgt_Lemming just been prescribed some today
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06:00 Druidispissed Ok Finally
06:00 Druidispissed Not sure how long this is gonna lass
06:00 Druidispissed last
06:00 Druidispissed Any news on whats happening
06:01 Sgt_Lemming ...?
06:01 Druidispissed the IRC freenode bans
06:01 Sgt_Lemming someone on the web client joined a channel that was marked as Auto-K-Line
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06:02 speedrunnerG55 yay!
06:03 Cprossu lol.
06:03 Sgt_Lemming sifn't use a real client anyway
06:03 Cprossu why the fuck did you join that channel, speedrunnerG55?
06:03 speedrunnerG55 i was curious
06:03 speedrunnerG55 >.<
06:03 Cprossu well congratulations, you're now a dead curious cat.
06:04 Cprossu you and 1/4 of freenode
06:04 Cprossu damn lemmings.
06:04 speedrunnerG55 im still dead?
06:04 Cprossu no, just dumb and lucky
06:04 speedrunnerG55 i emailed freenode and resolved it  i thought
06:04 Cprossu if you did that on any other moment than a misconfig
06:05 Cprossu you wouldn't have been unbanned
06:05 lwq1996 is now known as lwq_sleeping
06:05 speedrunnerG55 they gave me a troubble ticket
06:05 lwq_sleeping night all
06:05 Cprossu night lwq_sleeping
06:05 lwq_sleeping lol
06:07 speedrunnerG55 i wonder why i was unbanned then
06:07 Cprossu because you and 1/4 of freenode did it
06:07 Cprossu [23:05] <Cprossu> if you did that on any other moment than a misconfig
06:07 Cprossu [23:05] <Cprossu> you wouldn't have been unbanned
06:07 Cprossu get it now, speedrunnerG55
06:07 * Cprossu jumps off a cliff
06:07 Cprossu coming, speedrunnerG55?
06:08 lwq_sleeping i was banned before but i asked them if they could un banned me
06:08 speedrunnerG55 a bit
06:09 speedrunnerG55 because of the event?
06:09 Cprossu that's why you were unbanned
06:09 Cprossu but seriously, are you coming with, I just jumped off a cliff =P
06:10 * speedrunnerG55 sees that there is a rope tied to his ancle to Cprossu
06:10 speedrunnerG55 and gets dgragged down the cliff
06:10 Cprossu no rope
06:10 Cprossu ROFL
06:11 * Cprossu cuts speedrunnerG55, deploys hidden parachute, and tosses speedrunnerG55 a packed parachute
06:11 Cprossu *cuts speedrunnerG55 off
06:11 * Cprossu parachuted into a lake =P
06:11 * speedrunnerG55 goes base jumping
06:11 Cprossu you still have to put your chute on and pull it ^_^
06:12 Druidispissed Why are there channels that are auto ban.......
06:12 Cprossu spam bots, Druidispissed
06:12 Druidispissed ...
06:12 Cprossu An inflatable boat pops out of speedrunnerG55's backpack when he pulls the first chute, pull the backup, speedrunnerG55!
06:12 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: randommscience117 on Magnetic Properties of Solids.....MattG on Magnetic Properties of Solids
06:13 speedrunnerG55 zombies, there real
06:13 speedrunnerG55 o_o
06:13 * speedrunnerG55 pulls the backup
06:13 * Cprossu *confetti and a real parachute come out*
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06:14 speedrunnerG55 its the suprise glados left me isnt it
06:15 * Cprossu / * . &  |
06:15 Cprossu ok that was a lame attempt
06:16 speedrunnerG55 i wonder
06:16 speedrunnerG55 speed_linux left too?
06:17 * Cprossu .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:
06:17 Cprossu ^ better attempt
06:18 speedrunnerG55 is that DNA?
06:18 Cprossu it's supposed to be confetti
06:19 Cprossu Crayon ())__BUTT COLOR___)) >
06:20 speedrunnerG55 0_0
06:20 dr_jkl argh
06:20 dr_jkl masterofmonks: you stuill here?
06:21 Cprossu �.���`�.��`�.��.���`�.�><(((�>         -        +====]\\  pew pew
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06:21 Cprossu �.���`�.��`�.��.���`�.�><(((x>                +====]\\
06:21 speedrunnerG55 o_o
06:22 Cprossu ><)))x>
06:22 Cprossu ^ I shot you a fish
06:23 Cprossu yay I scared speedrunnerG55 away somehow!
06:24 NeWtoz ...
06:25 speedrunnerG55 fish!!
06:25 * speedrunnerG55 eats fish for a day
06:26 Cprossu %-
06:26 Cprossu %-
06:26 Cprossu hrmmm
06:26 Cprossu %-/
06:26 Cprossu ^ is going crazy
06:27 speedrunnerG55 wow
06:27 Cprossu wtf
06:27 Cprossu ((�L�)) ? ?--- ???????�??
06:27 Cprossu ^ how much of that wasn't question marks?
06:28 speedrunnerG55 the firsst part?
06:28 speedrunnerG55 ✿◕‿◕✿
06:28 NeWtoz and this is why I'm on irc this late...
06:29 Cprossu NeWtoz: srsly now
06:30 NeWtoz =/
06:32 NeWtoz I'm tired
06:32 NeWtoz and I stopped all conversation
06:32 NeWtoz go me
06:33 NeWtoz WHO LIKES CHEESE?!?!?!?!
06:33 speedrunnerG55 i doo!
06:33 speedrunnerG55 :D
06:34 NeWtoz we have so much in common!
06:36 speedrunnerG55 ...like gravity?
06:36 NeWtoz you're feeling that connection too?
06:37 * NeWtoz is bored and tired
06:37 speedrunnerG55 hey, we boath are made of matter, has mas and occuppys space
06:37 speedrunnerG55 ^_^
06:38 NeWtoz I get weird this late
06:38 speedrunnerG55 its time we go to bed
06:38 NeWtoz I'm at work though =/
06:39 speedrunnerG55 .....
06:39 speedrunnerG55 sorry
06:39 speedrunnerG55 what do you  do this late?
06:39 speedrunnerG55 im i may ask
06:39 NeWtoz custodial work
06:40 * speedrunnerG55 pats NeWtoz
06:41 NeWtoz I've been patted
06:42 NeWtoz and I should get back to work
06:42 NeWtoz meh
06:42 speedrunnerG55 im going to bed
06:42 speedrunnerG55 get to work
06:42 NeWtoz understandable
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06:42 NeWtoz ok
06:43 speedrunnerG55 bye everyone > Cprossu   > NeWtoz
06:47 EntKitty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y5H9Sasq5U&amp;feature=related
06:47 Cprossu later, speedrunnerG55
06:51 Cprossu EntKitty, that's fucking amazing
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07:13 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: MattG on Magnetic Properties of Solids
07:14 Cprossu cool!
07:14 Cprossu I was playing around and I think I made it sync
07:15 Cprossu time wise
08:01 Cprossu BotSteve: tell captainboden Remote switching is a go (even if it is a little kludgetastic), Saturn and Jupiter Server is now UTC and in sync, and........uh......... magic!, that's right, magic!!
08:01 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when captainboden is around.
08:13 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: SitkaGrown on Magnetic Properties of Solids
08:18 NeWtoz colby jack
08:19 NeWtoz I'd prefer work to be over and a bed
08:19 NeWtoz but no need to dream
08:28 NeWtoz heh, my two coworkers fell asleep
08:29 NeWtoz we are on break
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09:15 Hackbat Guys
09:16 Hackbat where could I get a touchscreen kit for a 23" moniter
09:25 Sgt_Lemming funky, this little Thin Client runs debian
09:25 Sgt_Lemming well, that's one of the options.
09:26 Sgt_Lemming other one is XP embedded
09:42 Hackbat oh godd
09:43 Hackbat I
09:43 Hackbat Am so stupid
09:43 Hackbat I lost my stylus
09:44 Hackbat cause I stuck it in the band of my hat
09:44 Hackbat and forgot about it
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12:23 BatSteve-Away is now known as BatSteve
12:25 * BatSteve wants to tell speedrunnerg55 that he's an idiot.
12:25 BatSteve But I've done it too.
12:30 BatSteve anyway so long all, back in a while
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13:07 ynos g'morning everyone
13:07 asnopus Morning
13:13 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:
13:13 BotSteve Captain's Blog 6-21-11 CNC prep, HVL progress and Weather Fun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWprRTXLW5c
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13:28 ynos Watch out where those huskies go
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14:07 KB3NZQ Morning all
14:09 ynos g'mornin
14:13 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Vmike on First light....for real this time......Vmike on done with the fusor time for something new.. hmmmm. how about a cyclotron
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14:29 KB3NZQ back
14:29 KB3NZQ how are things @ the lab
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14:29 BotSteve At last!  My only friend!
14:30 speedrunnerG55 Hi people
14:30 KB3NZQ botsteve: you are my friend to
14:30 KB3NZQ hi speed be back in 5 min have to switch a load of wash
14:31 speedrunnerG55 Ok
14:46 KB3NZQ back
14:46 * KB3NZQ slaps speedrunnerG55 with an enormous Back Street Boys CD
14:47 * KB3NZQ has no car today :(
14:48 * KB3NZQ kills speedrunnerG55 with a scary Pentium 4 CPU
14:48 KB3NZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWprRTXLW5c   captain's blog posted 2hrs ago
14:50 KB3NZQ speed are you watching stream if so who were those 2 guys in the lot and is that the parking lot for the lab
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15:04 SparkyProjects KB3NZQ that's a neighbours parking lot, if you want to see, look at this streetview, pan left for the lab
15:04 SparkyProjects http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=the+geek+group&amp;hl=en&amp;ll=42.985363,-85.691722&amp;spn=0,0.014269&amp;radius=15000&amp;z=16&amp;layer=c&amp;cbll=42.985363,-85.691722&amp;panoid=TDw6CF3-7lejNJgiNSPonw&amp;cbp=12,226.08,,0,13.53
15:05 SparkyProjects If you go down the road that view is facing, the lab car park is behind the building
15:06 SparkyProjects The utility pole is the one you can see on the stream
15:06 KB3NZQ ok
15:08 KB3NZQ so sparky where do you live  when i watch your videos on youtube it sounds like you have a bit of a british accent (pardon spelling)
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15:11 SparkyProjects I'm from the UK, i am English/British, i moved from Oxfordshire in UK to Wales UK a couple of years ago
15:12 KB3NZQ ok i have a friend in kiddiminster who i used to talk to over echolink (ham radio) is call was golf 4 yellow green taxi  (G4YGT)
15:13 EntKitty http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2011/06/the_clock_in_th.php
15:13 EntKitty welp, this hard makes me think of golden sun
15:14 SparkyProjects I know of Kidderminster, and although i am also ham (G6KFY) i haven't been on air for a few years, need a new rig
15:14 KB3NZQ Sparky do you know Where the city of Pittsburgh is in PA USA
15:16 SparkyProjects I probably couldn't pinpoint it on a map, but i know of it
15:17 KB3NZQ ok well i'm about 20 air miles north of it. i live 2 miles from the town of Mars PA
15:18 SparkyProjects ah yes, south of lake erie (thankfully there's google maps :D )
15:19 ynos Anyone in GRR area want to join me at bosna express on 28th/buchanan?
15:19 KB3NZQ sparky here is a overview of my borough http://goo.gl/maps/cAxN
15:19 KB3NZQ it is in google maps
15:20 SparkyProjects You can find my pin on the TGG member map http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;oe=UTF8&amp;msa=0&amp;msid=116274907647972698234.00048dab09f38c01a2523
15:21 speedrunnerG55 Holy crap i was killed with a processor
15:21 SparkyProjects Go to streetview once you find me to see the area :)
15:23 KB3NZQ i like the view
15:25 SparkyProjects It's one of the reasons i moved here, from a local mountain i can see over 50 miles on a clear day, one day i'll do a vid on it
15:25 SparkyProjects I did one earler (3 parts) that had the view (plus the drive through the area), but it was a bit overcast, it's in my channel
15:25 KB3NZQ brb
15:29 KB3NZQ sparky http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=206991679112720224427.00048dab09f38c01a2523&amp;msa=0&amp;ll=40.674645,-79.98571&amp;spn=0.002612,0.004018
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15:34 SparkyProjects Cool :)
15:39 SparkyProjects If we could get everyone to add their pins to the member map, we could almost obliterate the map with pins :D
15:39 KB3NZQ lol
15:47 KB3NZQ brb got to deal with my wash
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15:54 KB3NZQ could one of you do me a quick favor and ping kb3nzq.ham-radio-op.net
16:00 SparkyProjects Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
16:00 SparkyProjects (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
16:00 SparkyProjects C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>ping kb3nzq.ham-radio-op.net
16:00 SparkyProjects Pinging kb3nzq.ham-radio-op.net [67.20.247.200] with 32 bytes of data:
16:00 SparkyProjects Reply from 67.20.247.200: bytes=32 time=165ms TTL=44
16:00 SparkyProjects Reply from 67.20.247.200: bytes=32 time=165ms TTL=44
16:00 SparkyProjects Reply from 67.20.247.200: bytes=32 time=165ms TTL=44
16:00 SparkyProjects Reply from 67.20.247.200: bytes=32 time=165ms TTL=44
16:00 SparkyProjects Ping statistics for 67.20.247.200:
16:00 SparkyProjects Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
16:00 SparkyProjects Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
16:00 SparkyProjects Minimum = 165ms, Maximum = 165ms, Average = 165ms
16:00 SparkyProjects C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>
16:01 KB3NZQ thanks all i needed to know is what it resolved to and if it lost any packets
16:01 Cprossu_Laptop PING 67.20.247.200 (67.20.247.200) from 70.162.40.206 : 56(84) bytes of data.
16:01 Cprossu_Laptop 64 bytes from 67.20.247.200: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=113 ms
16:01 Cprossu_Laptop 64 bytes from 67.20.247.200: icmp_seq=2 ttl=54 time=122 ms
16:01 Cprossu_Laptop 64 bytes from 67.20.247.200: icmp_seq=3 ttl=54 time=127 ms
16:01 Cprossu_Laptop 64 bytes from 67.20.247.200: icmp_seq=4 ttl=54 time=133 ms
16:01 Cprossu_Laptop 64 bytes from 67.20.247.200: icmp_seq=5 ttl=54 time=140 ms
16:01 Cprossu_Laptop --- 67.20.247.200 ping statistics ---
16:01 Cprossu_Laptop 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% loss, time 4040ms
16:01 Cprossu_Laptop rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 113.857/127.344/140.405/9.095 ms
16:02 KB3NZQ thank you it works
16:04 Cprossu_Laptop tggCaptainBoden good morning/noon/slightly afternoon
16:04 Cprossu_Laptop are you at the lab?
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16:12 KB3NZQ cprossu what os do you run/maintain i have a set of scripts that i made for ubuntu but all but 1 will work on almost any linux distro
16:12 Cprossu I run a ton of os's
16:13 KB3NZQ do you want a copy of some of them i also have some windows scripts i can give you copies of
16:13 Cprossu anything from XP to XP64 to gentoo, to arch, to archaic versions of smoothwall, to IPCOP, to BSD, to mac os6-x,
16:13 Cprossu oh and debian on a few machines
16:14 KB3NZQ ok
16:14 Cprossu but I stay away from ubuntu
16:14 Cprossu there are currently 2 win7 x64 boxes also on my network but I don't use them and they are not for me.
16:15 Cprossu may I ask what those scripts are for??
16:17 Cprossu @ KB3NZQ ?
16:17 KB3NZQ unattended installs printer maping adding users to Active directory from an excel sheet reboot scripts
16:17 KB3NZQ shutdown scripts
16:18 Cprossu reboot? shutdown?! what's that?
16:18 KB3NZQ the ones for linux one is a script for apt-get to update the package list than to upgrade packages
16:18 Cprossu if gentoo has taught me anything
16:18 Cprossu it's don't auto update anything
16:20 KB3NZQ the reboot and shutdown ones are for if you have a active directory domain to reboot the computers or shut them down some of them are batch and some are VB
16:21 KB3NZQ some of the other linux ones are for mounting and unmount and ejecting CD's and floppies on from remote (ssh)
16:21 Cprossu KB3NZQ : http://oi52.tinypic.com/2z66slz.jpg
16:21 Cprossu think I am asking much?
16:22 KB3NZQ lol
16:23 Cprossu and people tell me all the time that XP SP1 ain't stable
16:23 KB3NZQ the unattended ones require a lot of stuff to be setup first
16:24 KB3NZQ one of my scripts will install wink2 sp4 with out user intervention then not reboot then install sp4rollup1 again with out intervention then reboot
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16:26 KB3NZQ it will be a little wile before i can send them your way as i need to comment the code some
16:26 Cprossu no worries
16:26 Cprossu I don't need most of it so take your time if you want to
16:26 KB3NZQ ok
16:26 Cprossu I could use your help though
16:26 KB3NZQ on what ?
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16:27 Cprossu We need to take apart and figure out how the jupiter system patches outputs
16:27 Cprossu via ethernet
16:27 Cprossu I'm thinking some wireshark action is necessary
16:27 KB3NZQ ok
16:27 Cprossu then we need to build an API that we can use with a web page
16:27 Cprossu for control
16:27 Cprossu kinda of a tall order =/
16:28 Cprossu I was really hoping we could do it with some type of rs232 control instead
16:28 Cprossu but the more I dig into the documentation the less likely it looks to be possible
16:28 KB3NZQ i havent done html in years
16:30 Cprossu all I know is I have what I think is a visual basic binary
16:30 Cprossu that has the capability to swich channels via ethernet
16:30 KB3NZQ ok
16:30 Cprossu the target machine runs vxworks
16:31 Cprossu and it is possible to telnet in
16:31 Cprossu but I also have no clue if I can initiate a program switch from within vxworks
16:31 Cprossu as in video switching
16:31 astro73|derrial hm?
16:31 KB3NZQ ok
16:32 astro73|derrial protocol sniffing? funny web stuff?
16:32 Cprossu astro73|derrial: plans for non-kludgetastic remote control of the saturn,
16:32 astro73|derrial isn't that what i suggested days ago?
16:32 Cprossu yes but back when you suggested it
16:32 astro73|derrial wait, that was the config software
16:32 Cprossu the damn thing didn't work
16:32 Cprossu at all
16:33 astro73|derrial question: does the maker provide SDK or documentation?
16:33 Cprossu and even with custom config software what it does is compile a local copy of vxworks
16:33 KB3NZQ brb i'm gonna go down to my shack
16:33 Cprossu and no they didn't, astro73|derrial
16:33 Cprossu at least not publically
16:33 astro73|derrial ok
16:33 astro73|derrial so wire shark and lots of time
16:33 Cprossu so let me tell you what's happening
16:33 Cprossu at least from what I can tell
16:34 Cprossu the config 'software' actually creates a hard coded configured version of vxworks that the frame (AVP3500) boots
16:34 astro73|derrial right
16:34 Cprossu the MCC3500 boots off of the AVP3500 via a proprietary serial bus
16:34 astro73|derrial it actually compiles it (in the CS sense)
16:34 Cprossu the MCC is the control panel
16:34 Cprossu yes it compiles it
16:35 astro73|derrial the AVP is the control box under the desk?
16:35 * astro73|derrial is not familiar with AV equipment
16:35 Cprossu and the mcc3500 and the pc can send messages to the AVP3500(which is essentially a video router) via ethernet
16:36 astro73|derrial btw, how propriety is this serial bus? Or just "funny connector, haven't bothered to figure out more"?
16:36 Cprossu it's proprietary in the way that each device needs a 6 digit hard coded ID
16:37 Cprossu and needs said ID programed in the list of "devices"
16:37 astro73|derrial that may or may not mean something, but we'll save it for another time.
16:37 Cprossu it's burned into a rom of some sort at the factory
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16:37 Cprossu and it's hex
16:38 Cprossu pc is 192.168.253.1, frame is 192.168.253.10, the control panel itself is 192.168.253.11
16:38 astro73|derrial DHCP or static?
16:38 Cprossu and I think we have a MPK device that allows RS232 control
16:38 Cprossu static.
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16:39 astro73|derrial do we know if the PC remote and the MCC use the same protocol?
16:39 Cprossu MPK= what they call the proprietary serial bus, btw
16:39 speedrunnerG55 Hi
16:39 Cprossu I need someone there to initiate a swich manually
16:39 astro73|derrial it's entirely possible that the physical line is RS-232 and the ID is used in the protocol
16:39 Cprossu to find out
16:39 KB3NZQ astro73 are you a ham radio op
16:40 astro73|derrial KB3NZQ: nope. I'm a programmer.
16:40 EntKitty you know, for the amount of knowledge of biology it requires, it kinda annoys me when people talk about bodybuilding like it's something for stupid people to do
16:40 KB3NZQ ok
16:40 astro73|derrial Cprossu: i might be heading over soon-ish, but I've never touched anything in master control
16:40 Cprossu "TAKE: Output: Main A, Level: LVL0, Input: Input 01, Status Flags:  Take, Panel: SCP -2, Response Code: OK"
16:40 KB3NZQ then cprossu and astro73 do you 2 have skype?
16:41 Cprossu ^ this is how it looks when you initiate a program change in the logs
16:41 Cprossu I do, but I stopped using it
16:41 KB3NZQ why
16:41 Cprossu so I'll have to reinstall on some machine
16:41 Cprossu because
16:41 astro73|derrial Cprossu: so it looks like a request/response system. Not unusual.
16:41 Cprossu remember that one exploit?
16:41 Cprossu remote code execution
16:41 astro73|derrial KB3NZQ: why do you want it?
16:42 Cprossu well they hit my skype laptop
16:42 KB3NZQ ok i have skype i was thinking the 3 of us could talk over voiceon it insted of clogging up the irc
16:43 astro73|derrial Hey, is anyone else here using IRC that we're causing problems with?
16:43 Cprossu "22Jun11 16:40:35" "569" "Router"
16:43 Cprossu date/time, msec, table
16:43 astro73|derrial ok, then.
16:43 KB3NZQ and if steve can setit up on one of the computers like the one that controlls the console we could see the screen w/ it
16:43 astro73|derrial Cprossu: what's this? and what is "table" exactly?
16:44 Cprossu this is a log file
16:44 Cprossu from when a switch takes place
16:44 astro73|derrial can you just paste it exactly as it appears?
16:44 Cprossu iyeah
16:44 Cprossu give me a second
16:44 Cprossu let me initiate one more switch
16:44 astro73|derrial this whole "chopping it up" thing is confusing
16:46 speedrunnerG55 Cprossu: I herd intel is comming out with a 10-core server processor  wih a 30 Mb last level cache
16:46 Cprossu it actually copy pastes backwards
16:46 Cprossu WTF
16:46 Cprossu "TAKE: Output: Main A, Level: LVL0, Input: Input 00, Status Flags:  Take, Panel: SCP -2, Response Code: OK""Router"" 272""22Jun11 16:45:19"
16:46 Cprossu in the table itself it's date/time, msec, table, description
16:46 Cprossu but when I copy paste it from the log
16:47 speedrunnerG55 >_>
16:47 Cprossu it comes out description, msec, date, time
16:47 astro73|derrial oh, it's not just a text file?
16:47 Cprossu no
16:47 Cprossu remember it's kludgy?
16:47 astro73|derrial *sigh*
16:48 astro73|derrial ok, so what does "table" mean? It's which log it is? The device that produced the log entry?
16:48 Cprossu table refers to board vs router
16:48 Cprossu mcc3500 counts as a board
16:49 Cprossu so the control surface sending a request
16:49 Cprossu should come up as a board just like when I do a switch with the server
16:49 astro73|derrial does the board ever produce log entries?
16:49 Cprossu "22Jun11 16:45:14"" 6""Board""Board:SERVER  , State:Inactive, Time Source:Unknown, Ticks: 0"
16:49 astro73|derrial so "table" is which device produced the entry
16:50 astro73|derrial this isn't running it's own little network
16:51 astro73|derrial can you at least figure out if it's TCP or UDP on which port(s)?
16:51 Cprossu http://oi51.tinypic.com/ncl1l0.jpg
16:51 Cprossu yeah we can once someone gets to the lab
16:51 Cprossu I'm just trying to show you it's working parts
16:52 astro73|derrial oh
16:52 Cprossu before we get into any packet dumping
16:52 astro73|derrial interesting
16:52 Cprossu because you need to know what you'll be looking at
16:52 astro73|derrial table is not the source
16:52 Cprossu and it's extremely complex and there are so many nutty things going on
16:52 Cprossu I mean for god sakes it uses c++, vb3, vb4, vb5, and vb6 runtimes, and also has it's own database engine too
16:53 speedrunnerG55 Tcp/Ip FTW
16:53 speedrunnerG55 why soo manny languages?
16:54 Cprossu I wish I could tell you speedrunnerG55
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16:55 speedrunnerG55 Its just switching video.
16:55 astro73|web sorry, IRCCloud seems to have died.
16:55 Cprossu btw astro73|derrial / KB3NZQ if this helps which it won't, the 'database' I think it's running is "Microkernel Database engine" by Btrieve Technologies 6.15.1.0
16:55 speedrunnerG55 What els does it do?
16:55 Cprossu what was the last thing you saw me say, astro73|derrial
16:55 astro73|web yeah, but part of the reverse-engineering work is cutting away the cruft and getting down to just how they communicate
16:56 astro73|web [12:52:56] <Cprossu> I mean for god sakes it uses c++, vb3, vb4, vb5, and vb6 runtimes, and also has it's own database engine too
16:56 Cprossu good.
16:56 KB3NZQ ok
16:56 astro73|web so both the AVP and MCC produce BOARD entries....
16:56 astro73|web which means that table is not the entry source
16:56 Cprossu no the AVP produces a ROUTER entry
16:56 Cprossu to that one
16:56 Cprossu no way
16:56 Cprossu it's just a log
16:56 Cprossu the entry is TCPIP
16:56 KB3NZQ switching computers
16:56 Cprossu somewhere
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16:57 Cprossu I'm afraid to install anything else on this machine
16:57 Cprossu because I don't want to have to redo all that work
16:57 Druidic_Rifleman OK YAY!!! i can long in
16:57 Cprossu so since it's on a hub
16:57 Cprossu what I am hoping
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16:57 Cprossu is we can just dump a comp with wireshark on it
16:57 Cprossu and cap some switching packets
16:57 astro73|web probably
16:58 astro73|web if i understand hubs correctly, that should work. Controlled experiments to limit traffic
16:58 astro73|web i don't have a working laptop with ethernet, though
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16:59 astro73|derrial ok, that's back
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17:00 KB3NZQ_Biostar you might want a hub with a extra ethernet (rj45) and a computer and have it watch all packets or maby try and maby have a comp w/ 2 nic's to have all traffic pass through
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17:00 Cprossu it should be all right, we hope astro73|derrial
17:00 Cprossu as it's on it's own slice of the world
17:00 * KB3NZQ_Biostar just had a light come in my head
17:00 Cprossu our hub has multiple 10bt cards
17:00 astro73|derrial KB3NZQ_Biostar: that's what we're planning on doing.
17:00 Cprossu and I think it's sloppy enough
17:00 Cprossu that we don't have to do a passthrough
17:00 KB3NZQ_Biostar does the lab have a managed switch that when
17:01 Cprossu yeah of course
17:01 Cprossu but this is on a different network
17:01 Cprossu because it BOOTP's
17:01 Cprossu off of 10B2
17:01 Cprossu there are 2 network cards inside the jupiter server computer
17:01 astro73|derrial oh, oh my
17:01 Cprossu one is connected to tgg and the other to a hub with 10b2
17:02 KB3NZQ_Biostar you config it you can have 2 ports that are for traffic to go between the controll pc and switcher
17:02 Cprossu yes but we shouldn't need to
17:02 astro73|derrial thinwire?
17:02 Cprossu yes thinnet
17:02 Cprossu do you see the hell I've had to go through yet just to get it working?
17:02 KB3NZQ_Biostar and the 1 other port that is configured for all packs to be sent to it as well
17:02 Cprossu anyway continuing on
17:02 * astro73|derrial has never actually seen thinwire in person
17:02 Cprossu KB3NZQ yes I know what you are saying
17:02 Cprossu we don't need to
17:03 Cprossu you know how a hub works, right, KB3NZQ?
17:03 KB3NZQ_Biostar yes
17:03 Cprossu we should get every message to and from the frame and the pc
17:03 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok
17:03 Cprossu just by dumping a computer with wireshark on that network
17:03 speedrunnerG55 Biostar?
17:03 speedrunnerG55 Lol
17:03 Cprossu at least it's not ECS
17:03 speedrunnerG55 Wire shark FTW
17:04 astro73|derrial is the MCC on the same network? or does the MCC/AVP just communicate by MPK(?)?
17:04 KB3NZQ_Biostar speed  biostar is the company that made the mother board in this sys
17:04 Cprossu mpk is just for booting as far as I can tell with the mcc
17:04 astro73|derrial huh
17:04 Cprossu the mcc must use ethernet
17:04 Cprossu to communicate to the frame
17:05 speedrunnerG55 Oh yaaa biostar
17:05 Cprossu hence my earlier comment, at least it's not ECS
17:05 * speedrunnerG55 takes a trip to google
17:05 speedrunnerG55 Brb
17:06 KB3NZQ_Biostar it is a biostar tforce 6100-939 onboard gpu is a gforce 6100 and the cpu is a socket 939 in this sys i have a athlon 64 single core in it
17:06 astro73|derrial if i were to guess, I'd say that the MCC and PC remote use the same protocol, and the software was hacked together for testing or just to have it
17:06 Cprossu to KB3NZQ_Biostar and astro73|derrial : http://www.grassvalley.com/apps/doc_show?&amp;set=mcontrol&amp;c=Saturn|Saturn%20Master%20Control%20System&super=broadcast
17:07 Cprossu astro73|derrial: beats the hell out of me
17:07 astro73|derrial if they used seperate protocols, you'd think they'd spend a little more time on the software
17:07 Cprossu I don't know what drugs the engineers were on
17:07 Cprossu so I couldn't tell you
17:07 Cprossu but here's the documentaiton
17:07 Cprossu *documentation
17:07 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok
17:08 Cprossu we are currently running software version 6.2.1
17:08 Cprossu just for reference
17:08 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok
17:08 Cprossu things in this manual will contradict not only reality, but common sense too
17:08 KB3NZQ_Biostar cprossu and astro73 check your PM
17:08 SparkyProjects There's a possibility that this was worked on by more than one set of engineers with their own styles of doing things, right Cprossu ?
17:08 astro73|derrial KB3NZQ_Biostar: still don't think we need to bother with skype. Besides, won't have it when i get to the lab
17:09 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok
17:09 Cprossu SparkyProjects: it was kludged together from the start
17:09 Cprossu and no one took apart another's mess
17:09 KB3NZQ_Biostar i'm on my win tower now
17:09 Cprossu they just continued to tack on garbage
17:09 Cprossu and not even look at the other shit
17:09 astro73|derrial SparkyProjects: I would assume so, if only by the virtue of being a long-running project
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17:10 Cprossu there are API's in it that didn't change from when the software ran on windows 3.1 even before they built the saturn
17:10 Druidic_Rifleman BotSteve: Tell obtuse_lappy that i will be starting to Fool around with the design of Turret mounting plate Tonight and if he is at the lab I need to know the messurements
17:10 BotSteve Druidic_Rifleman: I'll pass that on when obtuse_lappy is around.
17:10 Cprossu so there is rehashed shit everywhere
17:10 Cprossu afterall it just had to *work* no one would actually see it or have to deal with it directly
17:10 Cprossu other than field techs anyway
17:11 Cprossu and this as I have stated
17:11 Druidic_Rifleman BotSteve: Tell tggRED cute little black outfit in the captains blog
17:11 BotSteve Druidic_Rifleman: I'll pass that on when tggRED is around.
17:11 astro73|derrial Cprossu: has anyone else released control software for this equipment? especially as open source
17:11 Cprossu nope
17:11 astro73|derrial that you know of
17:11 Cprossu I've looked.
17:11 Druidic_Rifleman you talking about the satern thing?
17:11 Cprossu non-existant
17:11 astro73|derrial so my gut is that the logging data will be the easiest to figure out
17:12 SparkyProjects We had headaches with building controls, Trend and York use different protocols, neither use Bacnet, but someone managed to get them working on the same PC so we could control it all from just the one instead of 2 PC's
17:12 astro73|derrial big blob of ascii with some binary data nearby
17:12 Cprossu this was built by one company that built it with specs from another company but the building company got bought out by a competing company of the company that specced it out and they took over support.
17:12 Cprossu ^ @ astro73|derrial
17:12 astro73|derrial ooph
17:12 Druidic_Rifleman BotSteve: Tell obtuse_ that i will be starting to Fool around with the design of Turret mounting plate Tonight and if he is at the lab I need to know the messurements
17:12 BotSteve Druidic_Rifleman: I'll pass that on when obtuse_ is around.
17:12 Druidic_Rifleman BotSteve: Tell obtuse that i will be starting to Fool around with the design of Turret mounting plate Tonight and if he is at the lab I need to know the messurements
17:12 BotSteve Druidic_Rifleman: I'll pass that on when obtuse is around.
17:13 Druidic_Rifleman ... i am going back to figuring out the turret mounting plate for the killer robot... this technomumble makes my head spin
17:13 Cprossu so the enite mess goes like this I think... Thompson spun off Grass Valley Group, Phillips contracted Thompson to build saturn and other stuff, GVG bought Thompson
17:14 Cprossu and there's probably a few hundred other steps
17:14 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: DruidicRifleman on Power Wheels Robot.....obtuse on Power Wheels Robot
17:14 astro73|derrial Cprossu: i don't suppose anywhere they talk about TCP vs UDP and ports, do they?
17:14 Cprossu nope
17:14 astro73|derrial ok
17:14 Cprossu nowhere I've seen
17:14 Cprossu but there's A LOT
17:14 Cprossu of documentation
17:14 Cprossu so perhaps I could have missed it
17:14 astro73|derrial *shrug* i'm sure we'll be able to figure it out
17:15 Cprossu I'll be right back I need some food in order to progress
17:15 astro73|derrial out of curiosity, could we just run wireshark on the PC already there?
17:15 KB3NZQ_Biostar what is it's OS
17:16 speedrunnerG55 Cprossu: When will the irc be able to switch video?
17:16 Cprossu we could but for reasons I stated
17:16 Cprossu I am not installing ANY other software
17:16 Cprossu on this computer
17:16 astro73|derrial ok
17:16 astro73|derrial fair enough
17:17 astro73|derrial KB3NZQ_Biostar: doesn't matter. Wireshark runs on it
17:17 Druidic_Rifleman ... ooooooooh I think i know a way for the killer robot Mix drinks....
17:17 Druidic_Rifleman XD!!!!
17:17 dr_jkl woof
17:17 Cprossu .g pastebin
17:17 BotSteve Cprossu: http://pastebin.com/
17:17 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok astro
17:17 Cprossu astro73|derrial KB3NZQ_Biostar,  http://pastebin.com/XefUiYnp
17:18 Cprossu this is what it looks like when you telnet into the avp3500 itself
17:18 Cprossu which is running vxworks 5.2
17:18 Cprossu AVP3500> version
17:18 Cprossu VxWorks (for Saturn AVP) version 5.2.
17:18 Cprossu Kernel: WIND version 2.4.
17:18 Cprossu Made on Dec 17 2001 14:15:21.
17:18 Cprossu Boot line:
17:18 Cprossu value = 12 = 0xc
17:18 Cprossu AVP3500>
17:18 * Druidic_Rifleman tosses a chocolate covered milk bone to Doc
17:19 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok
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17:19 maglinvinn_work yar!
17:19 Cprossu hey maglinvinn_work
17:20 Cprossu we're discussing building an API for the saturn
17:20 Cprossu http://pastebin.com/XefUiYnp
17:20 astro73|derrial anyone know about when steve comes in to lab?
17:20 Cprossu ffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu vxworks
17:20 Cprossu probably 6pm grr time
17:20 speedrunnerG55 HEX ftw
17:21 astro73|derrial oh, wind river
17:21 maglinvinn_work wow...  cpro, that looks complicated
17:21 maglinvinn_work hehe
17:22 Cprossu astro73|derrial, KB3NZQ_Biostar, http://pastebin.com/NHTuQUf2
17:22 Cprossu ^ if there's anything in that help command you want me to try
17:22 Cprossu let me know
17:23 Cprossu I damn near typed "food time!" into the avp3500
17:23 Cprossu food time!
17:24 KB3NZQ_Biostar is the board satern or jupter (pardon spelling)
17:24 maglinvinn_work lol.  i'd be interested to know if that'd be like a key word for a blinkinlight show on the avp
17:24 maglinvinn_work hehehe
17:24 Druidic_Rifleman Hey eakin
17:24 maglinvinn_work cause, if i was a programmer, and i made something like that, i would totally put that in as an easter egg
17:25 maglinvinn_work what up dude
17:25 Druidic_Rifleman Considering how to design the turret mounting plate for the killer robot
17:25 maglinvinn_work lazy susan actuated by a stepper motor w/ 2 limit switches, and a servo for tilt
17:26 Druidic_Rifleman pretty much
17:26 maglinvinn_work next question?  hehe
17:26 Druidic_Rifleman Should i make a Drink mixing platform for the robot
17:26 maglinvinn_work a atmel 168 chip would run the whole thing, and be able to accept serial communication form hwatever processor they use for the other controls
17:26 Druidic_Rifleman BotSteve Should i make a Drink mixing platform for the robot
17:26 BotSteve Maybe
17:26 maglinvinn_work botsteve is druidic derpy as all get out?
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17:27 maglinvinn_work hmm.  botsteve is apparently case sensitive.
17:27 dr_jkl BotSteve: tell BatSteve ops plz.
17:27 BotSteve dr_jkl: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
17:27 maglinvinn_work BotSteve are you case sensitive?
17:27 maglinvinn_work nope.  botsteve just doesn't like me
17:27 maglinvinn_work lol.
17:27 maglinvinn_work i see how it is
17:28 * maglinvinn_work goes and cries in the corner
17:28 Druidic_Rifleman I am Just designing the Physical mount non of them electro gizmos
17:28 astro73|derrial ummm.... does jeff also run vxworks?
17:30 KB3NZQ_Biostar in excel looking @ somthing
17:30 astro73|derrial i noticed that KUKA is listed as one of the groups that use VxWorks
17:30 Cprossu KB3NZQ the 'board and frame' are saturn
17:30 Cprossu the jupiter network software runs it alll though
17:30 maglinvinn_work uh oh, looks like a party in Master Control
17:32 Cprossu tgg_Liz welcome I didn't even notice you come im
17:32 Cprossu *in
17:32 Cprossu what's up?
17:33 Cprossu *paging tggCaptainBoden* test, test
17:34 astro73|derrial i suspect they're all busy working
17:34 Cprossu AVP3500> devs
17:34 Cprossu drv name
17:34 Cprossu 0 /null
17:34 Cprossu 1 /dev/console
17:34 Cprossu 3 /pty/rlogin.S
17:34 Cprossu 4 /pty/rlogin.M
17:34 Cprossu 3 /pty/telnet.S
17:34 Cprossu 4 /pty/telnet.M
17:34 Cprossu 1 /dev/auto
17:34 Cprossu value = 25 = 0x19
17:35 Cprossu that doesn't help ._.
17:35 Druidic_Rifleman BotSteve Should i buy a raza life TechPB Scenario Jersey
17:35 BotSteve I don't think so
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17:35 Druidic_Rifleman bot steve's code is derp
17:35 tgg_Liz cprossu: thanks
17:35 speedrunnerG55 BatSteve-Away: !
17:35 Cprossu hey tgg_Liz, glad to see you
17:35 tgg_Liz also, the capatin's showing people around the lab so you're not able to reach him right now
17:36 tgg_Liz good to see you too
17:36 speedrunnerG55 Oh hi liz
17:36 Cprossu ahhh that explains a bit
17:36 tgg_Liz hi speedrunnerg55
17:36 Cprossu do you think you guys can lug the duet and keyer systems up to mc for steve, tonsofpcs, and me? <3
17:37 Druidic_Rifleman How are you today tgg_Liz
17:37 Cprossu *by the duet I mean the other one in the roadcase
17:37 Cprossu we're hoping it's not SDI too
17:38 Cprossu as the one we have installed is
17:38 tgg_Liz Druidic_Rifleman: i'm good just waiting on a render
17:38 Druidic_Rifleman You guys do allot of that
17:38 tgg_Liz yes we do
17:38 astro73|derrial Cprossu: maybe we should find that out before we huff it?
17:38 Cprossu oh tgg_Liz I do need to know one thing
17:38 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok cprossu http://www.cribroadcast.com/
17:39 tgg_Liz cprossu: i'm sure i can get chris to get some people on that when there's more people around to do heavy lifting
17:39 Cprossu tgg_Liz : does the mcp board read UTC now?
17:39 Druidic_Rifleman i've got a script for two reviews i got to do for My channel DruidicRiflemanPB the channel with out my crazy consenrvitve ramblings
17:39 tgg_Liz cprossu: and what do you need to know?
17:39 Cprossu I did a bunch of work on it so it should read UTC now
17:39 Cprossu ^ the mc board's clock
17:39 KB3NZQ_Biostar i pulled the excel sheet and am searching it for a service manual and such for it
17:39 tgg_Liz i have no idea
17:40 tgg_Liz i tend to stay away from MC right now
17:40 Cprossu fair enough
17:40 tgg_Liz until steve's done loving it
17:40 tgg_Liz and that sounded slightly dirty...
17:41 Cprossu considering the tentacle mess back there, it might be more true than you'd like it to be
17:41 tgg_Liz lol, if there's tentacle porn happening back there, i at least hope he's fliming it and making money with DVDs
17:42 Cprossu I hear the japanese are really into it
17:43 Cprossu oh so I do have a rudimentary remote control system of the mc board now (yay)
17:44 maglinvinn_work how did tentacle porn proove you have redimentary control....
17:44 * maglinvinn_work is trying to follow the conversation
17:44 KB3NZQ_Biostar ??? cprossu
17:44 Cprossu KB3NZQ : remoting the pc.
17:44 Cprossu and using a really bad piece of software
17:45 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok
17:45 Cprossu one which we hope to emulate
17:45 Cprossu in a non-craptastic way
17:45 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok
17:45 Cprossu I can always add pc's on the jupiter network as "servers"
17:45 KB3NZQ_Biostar true
17:45 Cprossu so as long as we can do it that won't be an issue
17:46 Druidic_Rifleman wow the scanner sounds neat
17:46 Cprossu for the API I want to use
17:47 KB3NZQ_Biostar did you look at cribrodcast link
17:48 dr_jkl hiya tgg_Liz
17:48 speedrunnerG55 ...
17:48 speedrunnerG55 Hi dr_jkl
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17:49 astro73|derrial hm. I have an LCD to scavenge. is it better to do that at home or at the lab?
17:49 astro73|derrial and by scavenge, I mean rip the backlight out of
17:49 Cprossu no I got distracted, KB3NZQ_Biostar
17:52 KB3NZQ_Biostar i pulled a excel file from that site that ias a 5000+ rows of manuals for many makes of brodcast stuff  i'm searching it for a service manual for the switcher
17:54 KB3NZQ_Biostar i now have the list filtered down to just Grass Valley and RCA
17:56 KB3NZQ_Biostar chould i have any other brands listed in that list other than grass valley and rca
17:59 KB3NZQ_Biostar cause thay have brands like ge gyyr jvc and many others
18:02 KB3NZQ_Biostar HDVP-4000 Saturn High Definition Video Processor: A multi-format processor that can be software switched to operate at either HD or SD rates. Includes two fully independent linear keyers with shadow, inverse, and fill mode selections. Clean feed output is standard. Includes redundant hot swappable power supplies. 1
18:02 KB3NZQ_Biostar PS-HDVP-4000 Redundant power supply for the HDVP-3500 and HDVP-4000 Saturn HD Video Processor 2
18:02 KB3NZQ_Biostar AAP-3500 Analog Audio Processor 1
18:02 KB3NZQ_Biostar DAP-3500 Digital Audio Processor 1
18:02 KB3NZQ_Biostar AVP-3500 Analog Video Processor 2
18:02 tgg_Liz dr_jkl: hello
18:02 KB3NZQ_Biostar it goes model  discription  # in stock
18:03 * KB3NZQ_Biostar slaps Cprossu and starts getting carried away
18:03 Cprossu yeah
18:03 KB3NZQ_Biostar is there a way i can just see the screen of the computer that controlls it
18:04 Cprossu it's just an xp box
18:04 Cprossu what do you want to see of it?
18:04 Cprossu we built it from scratch fyi
18:04 KB3NZQ_Biostar i have a Vnc program that i send to people who i'm working on their pc and it will then just connect to the viewer on mine
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18:05 Cprossu yes but that's how I am logged in
18:05 Cprossu that's not what I meant
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18:05 KB3NZQ_Biostar look at the logs and stuff you are working on with it
18:05 Phu good evening
18:05 KB3NZQ_Biostar to controll
18:05 KB3NZQ_Biostar and the software to conntroll the board
18:06 Cprossu problem is
18:06 Cprossu the computer really doesn't control it
18:06 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok
18:06 Cprossu when I pull logs it's pulling them off the frame
18:06 KB3NZQ_Biostar o ok
18:07 Cprossu so it literally runs a log server
18:07 Cprossu when I want to look at logs
18:07 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok
18:08 Cprossu do you have teamviewer?
18:08 KB3NZQ_Biostar no but i can download it
18:09 KB3NZQ_Biostar i use ultra vnc
18:09 Cprossu it's behind a nat, KB3NZQ
18:09 Cprossu good fucking luck.
18:09 Cprossu no opening of ports will commence before we get a real routing solution up there
18:10 Cprossu ^ @ KB3NZQ_Biostar
18:10 KB3NZQ_Biostar cprossu http://www.uvnc.com/addons/singleclick.html
18:10 Cprossu again no
18:10 Cprossu it will kick me off
18:10 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok
18:10 Cprossu if I install that
18:12 KB3NZQ_Biostar what it does is i send you a exe that i created from the link that i just sent you in the irc
18:12 Cprossu yes I get what it doesm KB3NZQ
18:12 Cprossu but I am using a different vnc solution right now
18:12 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok
18:12 Cprossu that uses the same ports
18:12 Cprossu get it?
18:13 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok
18:13 Cprossu http://teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
18:13 Cprossu ^ go there
18:13 Cprossu they have osx, linux, and windows clients
18:13 Cprossu you need not actually install it
18:13 Cprossu just run it and it'll let you join
18:14 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok
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18:16 Cprossu presentation is 737 277 264
18:16 Cprossu pw is 1030
18:16 Cprossu ^ astro73|derrial
18:16 Cprossu ^ KB3NZQ_Biostar
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18:18 astro73|derrial i'm heading out to the lab
18:19 astro73|derrial i'm working on my other project
18:19 Cprossu k cool
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18:20 KB3NZQ in now
18:20 speedrunnerG55 Hi
18:21 Cprossu cool
18:21 Cprossu KB3NZQ can you har me?
18:21 Cprossu *hear
18:21 Cprossu nm
18:22 KB3NZQ no and i can't call either
18:22 Cprossu KB3NZQ KB3NZQ_Biostar hello?
18:22 KB3NZQ cprossu i'm here
18:22 Cprossu ok what do you want to see?
18:22 KB3NZQ i'm in full screen
18:22 Cprossu then window it?
18:23 KB3NZQ ok
18:24 Cprossu so you with me?
18:24 Cprossu what do you need to see?
18:24 KB3NZQ ok
18:24 KB3NZQ this video switching stuff is all new to me
18:24 Cprossu as it was to me
18:24 Cprossu I assure you
18:25 KB3NZQ ok
18:25 speedrunnerG55 -__-
18:26 Cprossu what in the world?
18:26 KB3NZQ hit enter
18:26 Cprossu bah
18:26 Cprossu didn't do anything
18:26 KB3NZQ could it be cause i'm in?
18:26 speedrunnerG55 Video switcher?
18:26 Cprossu I think so KB3NZQ
18:26 KB3NZQ ok
18:27 Cprossu no problem
18:27 Cprossu got where I needed pretty much
18:27 speedrunnerG55 You using software to remotly switch the video feed on the stream?
18:27 speedrunnerG55 And if i remember it uses c++ vb .....
18:27 Cprossu the pro/1000 card is attached to the hub fyi
18:28 KB3NZQ k
18:28 Cprossu so that matches the PC listing in JNS
18:28 speedrunnerG55 And has databas manager.... Was it a template at first?
18:29 speedrunnerG55 (im sorry for beign ignorant but im just out of the loop)
18:29 Cprossu see that funny address, KB3NZQ?
18:30 KB3NZQ the one ending in d
18:30 Cprossu 8 hex
18:30 KB3NZQ yep
18:30 Cprossu I misquoted 6
18:30 Cprossu that's what it needs to be on the MPK serial bus
18:30 Cprossu whatever the fuck it is
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18:31 Cprossu see why I said there's nearly nothing to be gained by looking around herE?
18:31 KB3NZQ jump 2 windoes left on the tackbar
18:31 KB3NZQ yep
18:31 KB3NZQ mpk on that tab
18:32 Cprossu doesn't do anything
18:32 * speedrunnerG55 gives up, ur all buissy. I can wait :)
18:32 KB3NZQ ok will it let u config mpk any where
18:32 Cprossu KB3NZQ check the utilities tab
18:32 Cprossu only one place
18:33 Cprossu and here's where it gets messy
18:33 KB3NZQ how so?
18:34 KB3NZQ okok
18:34 Cprossu anything in red won't compile
18:35 KB3NZQ ok
18:35 Cprossu so thoughts?
18:36 KB3NZQ i'm not sure how much help i can be with out being there my only thought is
18:36 Cprossu well we'll get a comp with wireshark on it
18:36 Cprossu and dump the packet data
18:36 Cprossu I bet it's not encrypted
18:36 Cprossu so my thought is if we can decode it
18:37 Cprossu (still watching?
18:37 KB3NZQ i once interviwed at NEP bordcasting and i wonder if thay might be able togive any input on this
18:37 KB3NZQ yes
18:37 Cprossu see server listing?
18:37 Cprossu we can add as many of those as we want.
18:37 KB3NZQ ok
18:37 Cprossu so watch this
18:38 Cprossu and of course
18:38 Cprossu it fails to show anything
18:38 Cprossu hang on
18:40 KB3NZQ it was saying time source unknown
18:41 Cprossu figures it doesn't work for a demo
18:41 Cprossu but remember that log from earlier?
18:41 KB3NZQ shit happens
18:42 KB3NZQ kinda
18:42 Cprossu with the switching
18:42 Cprossu that's what initiated it
18:42 KB3NZQ one sec
18:42 Cprossu was that physical control program
18:42 Cprossu OH DUH
18:42 Cprossu KB3NZQ
18:42 Cprossu rofllll
18:43 Cprossu it will work now
18:44 Cprossu KB3NZQ how long is your one sec, and are you ready to see?
18:44 KB3NZQ_Biostar brb 1 sec
18:44 Cprossu I have to leave shortly
18:45 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok xchat on mac locked up
18:45 Cprossu boo
18:45 KB3NZQ_Biostar i'm still watching
18:45 Cprossu see that?
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18:45 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok
18:46 Cprossu only connection the PC has to the system is ethernet
18:46 Cprossu the comms ports are probe only
18:46 Cprossu and are not a part of jns
18:46 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok
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18:47 Cprossu so there's a packet to switch the router involved
18:47 KB3NZQ_Biostar scrool rt
18:47 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok line got trunked
18:48 Cprossu there, you go KB3NZQ_Biostar
18:48 KB3NZQ_Biostar it says responce ok
18:49 Cprossu "TAKE: Output: Main A, Level: LVL0, Input: Input 00, Status Flags:  Take, Panel: SCP -2, Response Code: OK""Router"" 493""22Jun11 18:45:33"
18:49 Cprossu "TAKE: Output: Main A, Level: LVL0, Input: Input 01, Status Flags:  Take, Panel: SCP -2, Response Code: OK""Router"" 602""22Jun11 18:45:26"
18:49 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok
18:49 Cprossu get to see what a mess this damn thing is now?
18:50 KB3NZQ_Biostar man whay a cluster fuck
18:50 KB3NZQ_Biostar can't we nuke it and start fresh
18:50 Cprossu and have it work at all?!
18:51 Thermoelectric is now known as Thermo-Away
18:51 KB3NZQ_Biostar cprossu Got time for echolink? talk about this crap
18:51 Cprossu ok I got a little time
18:52 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok i'm on
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19:07 KB3NZQ_Biostar botsteve: tell sersteve that i need all the model numbers for the brodcast switcher please
19:07 BotSteve KB3NZQ_Biostar: I'll pass that on when sersteve is around.
19:07 astro73|tgg did you want those now?
19:07 KB3NZQ_Biostar on the phone
19:07 KB3NZQ_Biostar bbl
19:09 KB3NZQ_Biostar astro no not now cause i can't call NEP broadcasting today i have to do it tomorrow
19:09 Cprossu astro73|tgg : get all models of all saturn/jupiter equipment
19:09 Cprossu I'll need it anyway
19:09 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok
19:09 KB3NZQ_Biostar cprossu pm me
19:10 Cprossu stuff in racks, stuff on shelves
19:10 Cprossu anything you can ID
19:10 Cprossu later, astro73|tgg
19:10 Cprossu gotta run but it'll be up here for me when I get back
19:11 LeadHead Cprossu, I put the new plugs and wires on the Land Cruiser
19:11 LeadHead still runs a bit rough if you give it some gas right on cold-start
19:11 LeadHead but it's been starting fine now
19:11 LeadHead old plugs didn't even look all that bad
19:12 Cprossu hrmmm he's not answering his phone
19:13 Cprossu LeadHead : check your plug wires for carbon traces
19:13 Cprossu the old ones that is
19:14 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: jaaz95 on First light....for real this time......jaaz95 on done with the fusor time for something new.. hmmmm. how about a cyclotron
19:15 astro73|tgg huh.
19:15 astro73|tgg that's disappointing
19:15 LeadHead The old wires just looked old
19:15 LeadHead but other wise fine
19:15 LeadHead I think my next step is going to pull the cold start injector out. People are saying its carbon'd up by the EGR
19:15 LeadHead and will just start dribbling fuel in huge drops
19:15 LeadHead on cold start
19:16 * speedrunnerG55 is kinda here
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19:17 SparkyProjects Leadhead, check or renew the distributor cap, mine had problems starting fo a while, but ran ok once started, changed cap and rotor and it starts first time
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19:17 SparkyProjects mine's a V* 3.9i
19:17 LeadHead Mine doesn't have a problem starting anymore
19:17 SparkyProjects V8
19:18 LeadHead The only issue it has right after cold start, is that between 1200-1500 RPM it hesitates and runs a bit rough
19:18 LeadHead above and below that it runs fine
19:18 LeadHead and only when you ease into the throttle.
19:18 LeadHead If you punch it, it's fine
19:19 SparkyProjects hmmm, sounds like lack of fuel, when you punch it you get a burst of fuel fromthe carb pump
19:19 LeadHead Carb?
19:19 LeadHead This is EFI son!
19:19 LeadHead 3.9L V8, that's not a Land Rover, is it?
19:20 SparkyProjects Ah, ok, but thik along the same lines, something sounds like it's not letting the fuel through on slow increase
19:20 SparkyProjects Yep, Land Rover Discovery
19:21 LeadHead Gotta love it, basically the same as the old Buick Aluminum V8
19:21 LeadHead I have the Popular Mechanics magazine that was telling about how awesome that engine was when it first came out
19:21 LeadHead - back in 1961
19:22 SparkyProjects heh, when i bought it, my boss wanted me to start it up, he loves the sound that engine makes
19:23 maglinvinn_work .seen sersteve
19:23 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen sersteve around.
19:23 maglinvinn_work Kb3, steve's nick is egrsteve
19:23 maglinvinn_work your message isn't going to be delivered to anyone  :)
19:24 SparkyProjects Yeah, anything running the same lines as British Leyland didn't change a lot from year to year or car to car
19:24 SparkyProjects My old Sherpa minibus (2  litre) was the same engine as many of their cars.
19:26 astro73|tgg bummer. my old LCD monitor appears to be backlit by LEDs, and not cold cathodes as I had hoped
19:29 Druidic_Rifleman i should hook up my flat screen
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19:35 qwebirc786051 OK now that irc is working
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19:48 speedrunnerG55 I beat my third temple
19:49 speedrunnerG55 Get the third emrald. Now to go to the temple of timr
19:49 speedrunnerG55 Time
19:49 speedrunnerG55 I like how the emrald represents a marage proposal
19:52 * KB3NZQ_Biostar is happy now that i have my car back =)
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20:02 Sasha-iPhone Oh hai
20:03 Sasha-iPhone Did I just kill chat?
20:04 Sasha-iPhone .log
20:04 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
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20:14 speedrunnerG55 Hi Sasha-iPhone
20:14 Sasha-iPhone 'sup
20:14 speedrunnerG55 masterofmonks: ?
20:14 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: jaaz95 on First light....for real this time......DruidicRifleman on First light....for real this time.
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20:15 speedrunnerG55 Hi LinuxH4x0r WB
20:15 masterofmonks speedrunnerG55:
20:16 speedrunnerG55 Hi. Weres BatSteve-Away ?
20:16 masterofmonks Umm, away?
20:17 speedrunnerG55 Ok
20:18 LinuxH4x0r hi
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20:26 Sasha-iPhone BTW, out of 10, how much do you love/hate Samsung?
20:27 injektion I hate Samsung 10/10
20:27 Sasha-iPhone How come?
20:27 injektion Samsung makes shitty hard drives
20:28 Phu they make shittier *rom drives.
20:28 injektion That as well
20:28 Sasha-iPhone Meh. I haven't had a single one of their products screw me over yet.
20:29 Cprossu ok I am back
20:29 Cprossu (reads up)
20:29 Sasha-iPhone Oh hi Cprossu
20:29 Phu wb cprossu
20:29 Cprossu easy fix
20:30 Cprossu I love those
20:30 Sasha-iPhone Those what?
20:30 Cprossu astro73|tgg: how goes the saturn inventory?
20:30 Cprossu was fixing a computer
20:30 Cprossu thought he had a virus, didn't
20:31 Cprossu had me hook his printer up and he was happy
20:31 Cprossu all I had to do was dust comp out
20:31 Cprossu clogggggged
20:31 Cprossu lol
20:31 Sasha-iPhone BTW, I'm freelancing for this guy who sells LED stuff, it's pretty cool
20:31 Cprossu so who's all at the labs now?
20:31 Phu are we talking Solid Dust Mass (tm) here?
20:31 Cprossu no it was the more mobile dry kind
20:32 Phu ah.. slightly more manageable.
20:32 Cprossu you know the kind if you disturb when you bring it out and put a little air passed it looks like a death cloud?
20:32 Cprossu so glad I brought my compressor
20:32 Phu I have pulled Solid Dust Mass from a PC PSU before. With that "thats why this was getting warm" knowing look.
20:33 Phu ah death cloud dust ;)
20:33 Cprossu I hate smokers
20:33 Cprossu that dust is the worst kind.
20:34 Sasha-iPhone Wow. It gets that bad?
20:34 Cprossu yeah.
20:34 Sasha-iPhone Man. They should try e-cigs.
20:35 Cprossu one of the worst I did
20:35 Cprossu was so bad
20:35 Cprossu nicotine also fucks shit up
20:35 Phu nicotine == sticky
20:35 Cprossu computer was freezing right?
20:35 Sasha-iPhone Even when vaped?
20:35 Cprossu it was packed full of dust
20:35 Cprossu yes I am sure even when vaped
20:35 Phu Sasha-iPhone: even when vaped.
20:35 Cprossu anyway
20:35 Cprossu so it was overheat-shutting down
20:36 Cprossu I pop the side off
20:36 Phu nicotine residue forms a sticky film that makes things stiffen up
20:36 Cprossu the cpu heatsink was laying on the bottom of the case
20:36 Cprossu the plastic reataining mechanism got brittle
20:36 Cprossu and broke.
20:36 Sasha-iPhone Huh. Guess you learn something new everyday!
20:36 KB3NZQ_Biostar cprossu did you get my pm's with my email's
20:36 Cprossu yes I did
20:36 Cprossu and I ignored them as I have no info
20:37 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok
20:37 Cprossu more as it happens!
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20:38 Cprossu astro73|tgg  : you there?
20:39 Sasha-iPhone Speaking of overheating, I left my netbook on in my bag, and when I reached out for it, I nearly burned myself!
20:39 Cprossu I've done that with my full sized laptop before while it was rendering video
20:39 Cprossu was not fun.
20:40 Phu which manufacturer was it who famously made a line of laptops with a notice on the bottom that said "unsuitable for placing on one's lap" ?
20:40 Cprossu probably apple
20:40 Phu because of how intensely hot the underside got without adequate ventilation.
20:40 Cprossu they stopped calling them laptops first I think
20:40 Cprossu dells though ...
20:40 Cprossu always ran too hot
20:40 Cprossu fuck dell.
20:41 Phu and too slow for it too.
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20:41 Sasha-iPhone Yeah, but it what surprised me is that A) it lasted for many hours, and B) it did not shutoff when overheating
20:42 Cprossu overheating for a laptop is somewhere north of 105C
20:42 Cprossu .c 105C to F
20:42 BotSteve 221 degrees Fahrenheit
20:43 Cprossu_Laptop aka more than enough to boil water =P
20:43 Sasha-iPhone It wasn't that hot, however my laptop does reach 100c
20:43 Cprossu_Laptop the gpu in it anyway
20:44 douglas_ hi
20:44 Cprossu_Laptop but I find the manu's set it way high
20:44 douglas_ is now known as speed_laptop
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20:45 Cprossu_Laptop so is anyone currently here at the lab?
20:45 Cprossu_Laptop *anyone active here currently at the lab
20:46 Cprossu_Laptop tggCaptainBoden astro73|tgg ?
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20:46 speed_laptop hi
20:46 Cprossu_Laptop hi again.
20:46 Python hello
20:46 speed_laptop is now known as speed_linux
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20:47 Cprossu_Laptop speedrunnerG55 speed_linux you're confusing me more than
20:47 Cprossu I confuse myself
20:47 speed_linux speed linux is in my bacement
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20:48 speed_linux for some reason i cant find the list of nick names to set as default
20:48 Toastdude Where you do the live thing?
20:48 Cprossu_Laptop ??? Toastdude ???
20:48 speed_linux hes tlking to me
20:49 speed_linux in my bacement
20:49 speed_linux i dont get a chance to be down here that often
20:49 speed_linux :/ but when i am.. i have acsess to 2 good desktops
20:50 Toastdude Cprossu_Laptop: ?
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20:50 speed_linux brb. there got to be something wrong with this client
20:50 Cprossu_Laptop |(.)|  I'm sorry, dave, I'm afraid I can't let you do that.
20:50 Toastdude Lol
20:51 speed_linux ^^ glADOS?!
20:51 Cprossu_Laptop no.
20:51 Phu i love the ASCII HAL9000 there
20:51 Toastdude Hal
20:51 Toastdude 9000
20:51 Toastdude |(•)|
20:51 Cprossu_Laptop lol
20:52 speed_linux sounds so framilir
20:52 Cprossu_Laptop ()
20:52 Cprossu_Laptop damn
20:52 Phu well it is... if you've ever seen 2001 or 2010
20:52 Cprossu_Laptop I can't type that character
20:52 Cprossu_Laptop anyway speed_linux education time
20:52 Phu again?
20:52 Cprossu_Laptop .yt 2001 part 1
20:52 Toastdude Alt+7 Cprossu_Laptop
20:52 speed_linux B)
20:52 BotSteve Cprossu_Laptop: http://m.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&amp;client=mv-google&amp;hl=en&amp;v=2DXMVG8fo3g
20:53 Cprossu_Laptop This video contains content from Warner Bros. Entertainment, who has blocked it on copyright grounds.
20:53 Cprossu_Laptop FUCK YOU
20:53 Cprossu_Laptop warner bros
20:53 Phu lol
20:53 Toastdude Lol
20:54 Phu start here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9E4f0AanBE
20:54 Phu a slightly abridge version that should get a general understanding across.
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20:55 Cprossu_Laptop Phu: not worth it
20:55 speed_linux no sound
20:55 Cprossu_Laptop go all or go nothing
20:55 Cprossu_Laptop speed_linux sound works fine in that video
20:56 Cprossu_Laptop but that cut won't be worth it
20:56 speed_linux ...
20:56 speed_linux i fixed it
20:56 speed_linux i forgot my speakers have to be turned off
20:57 Phu ironically: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jXurAP0IXE
20:58 Phu 2001 with HAL replaced by glaDOS.
21:01 Cprossu liking both portal and 2001 I hated that
21:02 speed_linux ok
21:06 Cprossu man that recut is really badly done, Phu
21:06 Cprossu REALLY badly done
21:07 speed_linux lol, they should have added effects to gladosses voice
21:07 speed_linux and made it less loud
21:07 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slRsexrhbG8 <- depicts HL series better than that cut of 2001 depicted 2001
21:08 speed_linux lol ive seen this. funny stuff
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21:14 Cprossu tggCaptainBoden astro73|tgg something is fucking up
21:14 LeadHead y
21:15 Cprossu stream keeps dropping frames,
21:15 LeadHead how can you tell
21:15 LeadHead seems fine here
21:15 Cprossu because audio stops for 1 second every 20 and frame freezes
21:16 LeadHead just fine here
21:16 LeadHead still fine
21:22 speedrunnerG55 Is it a network issue?
21:22 Cprossu a router issue
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21:28 Phu Cprossu: I didn't say I'd watched it, just that I'd found it :P
21:29 speedrunnerG55 Oh
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21:36 NeWtoz I broke my light switch :(
21:37 NeWtoz apparently it doesn't like being shorted accidentally
21:38 exor674 NeWtoz: don't do that
21:38 NeWtoz thanks
21:39 speedrunnerG55 NeWtoz: O_o
21:39 Cprossu how the fuck did you manage that?
21:39 NeWtoz being stupid, what else
21:39 speedrunnerG55 Reminds me of when i made a portabke lught dimmer
21:39 Cprossu you should stop trying to make your ceiling fan have tesla coil bulbs.
21:39 speedrunnerG55 Which i still have somewere
21:40 NeWtoz I didn't turn off the breaker while changing out light switches
21:40 NeWtoz heh, celiing fan tesla coil bulbs
21:40 speedrunnerG55 Portable^
21:40 speedrunnerG55 Light^*
21:41 NeWtoz it was a $40 light switch too :(
21:41 speedrunnerG55 Tesla cpil bulbs?
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21:50 Seroster Arrrr
21:50 Cprossu damn
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21:53 Toastdude My friends grandfather committed suicide yesterday
21:53 Druidic_Rifleman Ouch...
21:54 speedrunnerG55 O=
21:54 Toastdude He was already going to jail on account of 3 cases of attempted murder
21:54 Toastdude http://www.woodfordtimes.com/breaking/x898080217/BREAKING-Body-found-after-domestic-dispute-in-Woodford-County-Tuesday-night
21:55 exor674 murderous grandfather?
21:55 Toastdude He was drunk and sick
21:56 Toastdude He pulled the trigger at my friend's grandmother, but luckily it didn't work
21:56 Toastdude Aimed it right at her face
21:56 Druidic_Rifleman wow........
21:57 Druidic_Rifleman I think that he took till death do us part to seriously...
21:57 KB3NZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YOxKnRp6vA&amp;feature=feedu     LOL
21:59 Cprossu ok
21:59 Cprossu soooo
21:59 Cprossu should I call the lab?
21:59 Cprossu xD
21:59 speedrunnerG55 Why?
21:59 Druidic_Rifleman dude prank call the lab do it
21:59 speedrunnerG55 Hows the stream?
21:59 Cprossu I want to find out if steve is there + I need the mc computer rebooted
22:00 Cprossu lol funny noise
22:01 speedrunnerG55 Noise?
22:01 speedrunnerG55 In the stream?
22:01 Cprossu yeah funny dtmf's
22:01 LeadHead http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&amp;op=Story&amp;reid=244
22:02 Cprossu I wonder if they built it as well as the seasonic
22:02 Cprossu (skips to internals)
22:03 LeadHead All voltages less than 1% drift
22:05 Cprossu yeah but I still don't like what they did to the primary cap
22:05 speedrunnerG55 Where is batsteve :(
22:06 Cprossu heatshrinked and put next to a hot heatsink is not where I want my primary
22:06 LeadHead 40*C
22:06 LeadHead not worried about
22:06 Cprossu doesn't matter what it's rated for
22:06 LeadHead that cap is rated for 100*C
22:06 Cprossu each degree up you go for capacitors
22:07 Cprossu never mind what it's rated at
22:07 Cprossu if it's an electrolytic
22:07 Cprossu severly degrades it's performance as the years pass
22:07 LeadHead and in my opinion, it's a non issue with a cap rated for 100*C ambient.
22:07 speedrunnerG55 Omg im getting these phone calls from ny
22:07 speedrunnerG55 Idk who it is so i ignore
22:08 Cprossu I'd still like to see the cap experiencing no more than 35C surface if it's at all possible
22:08 Cprossu even if it's rated 105C
22:09 speedrunnerG55 Area codes (646) (718)
22:09 Cprossu did you see seasonic's design, LeadHead?
22:09 LeadHead no
22:10 Cprossu http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&amp;op=Story&amp;reid=200
22:10 Cprossu I think they have a 500 too
22:11 Cprossu looking for review now
22:11 KB3NZQ i want to kill the SOB who did this http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2011/06/22/thousands-without-power-in-cranberry-twp/
22:11 KB3NZQ it is a shame that the electric chair in not in use to this day
22:11 LeadHead Prefer that superflower design
22:12 Cprossu I don't, the superflower looks like it's been wedged together and issues with heat found and "fixed" with heatshrink and stuff
22:12 LeadHead Not im my opionion
22:13 LeadHead Compared to the seasonic with random little heatsinks everywhere?
22:13 Cprossu they kept it to what will work with convection
22:13 Cprossu which is how it's supposed to cool itself
22:14 LeadHead and the super flower design
22:14 Cprossu if there's no place for cool air to get in
22:14 LeadHead also can utilize convection
22:14 Cprossu then convection fails
22:14 LeadHead Look at the superflowers heatsink
22:14 LeadHead carefully
22:14 LeadHead You can see right through it
22:14 LeadHead inside the unit.
22:14 LeadHead http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules/NDReviews/images/SuperflowerSF500P14FG/DSCF3569.JPG
22:14 Cprossu the case is not what I am worried about
22:15 LeadHead I am not following your logic
22:15 LeadHead the super flower case has plenty of vent holes
22:15 LeadHead to allow for convection...
22:15 Cprossu http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules/NDReviews/images/SuperflowerSF500P14FG/DSCF3588.JPG
22:15 Cprossu I just do not like that at all
22:15 speedrunnerG55 I recall my friend havving the same problem now.
22:15 LeadHead That seems beyond fine to me
22:15 speedrunnerG55 I wonder
22:16 LeadHead espeically since theat heatsink is heatsinked right to the outer case
22:16 LeadHead btw, at 50*C, that capacitor has a life span measured in hundreds of thousands of hours
22:17 Cprossu ok seriously that superflowe
22:17 Cprossu looks like they took a mostly standard psu
22:17 Cprossu dumped heatsinks that contact the top with and built a beefy top for
22:18 Cprossu I really don't see how they can avoid killing lots of components with heat if there's no free air movement underneath the sinks
22:18 LeadHead how is there no free air movement
22:18 LeadHead the sinks are preforated
22:18 LeadHead the case has tons of holes
22:18 LeadHead the main heatsink has ventilation slots cut into right into the PSU case
22:19 LeadHead To me the seasonic looks like the one that they just packed as many big heatsinks as they could onto a standard PSU design.
22:19 Cprossu no because what you said is what CWT's 1000's look like
22:19 LeadHead what?
22:19 Cprossu =P
22:20 LeadHead You're really making a big deal out of nothing.
22:20 LeadHead That capacitor will outlive any hardware attached to that PSU.
22:20 Cprossu when you are going to run something for 7-9 years straight, little things are big things
22:20 LeadHead What did you miss about 100,000 Hour life span as sustained 50*C ambient
22:21 LeadHead *at
22:21 Cprossu the fact that I am building it for 43C ambient temps
22:21 LeadHead You're looking closer at 200,000 hours
22:21 Cprossu remember this is Arizona =P
22:21 Cprossu not with the heat
22:21 Cprossu I mean 43C intake
22:21 Cprossu if it were fucking outside
22:21 Cprossu .c 43c to F
22:21 BotSteve 109.4 degrees Fahrenheit
22:21 Cprossu =P
22:21 LeadHead 41*C intake during hotbox test
22:21 LeadHead 42*C exhaust
22:22 LeadHead at 500 watt load.
22:22 LeadHead At that load level, its putting out 55 watts of heat.
22:22 Cprossu looking at his testing
22:22 Cprossu http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&amp;op=Story3&amp;reid=200
22:23 Cprossu i'd say his hot box temps are inconclusive
22:23 LeadHead why is that
22:23 Seroster lol
22:24 Cprossu mainly because of fannage in the hot box rofl
22:24 Cprossu (looks over to the 'cold' tests on the superflower)
22:25 LeadHead Do you know how he does the hotbox tests?
22:25 LeadHead Cold test, the PSU is put into an empty PC-case
22:25 Cprossu yeah but it's circulated
22:25 LeadHead nothing in it
22:25 LeadHead no fans
22:25 LeadHead no anything
22:25 Cprossu the hot test is not
22:25 LeadHead Hot test, the exhaust from the load tester is pumped right into the case
22:25 LeadHead the only exhaust
22:25 LeadHead is the PSU.
22:26 Seroster Waitwhat
22:26 Cprossu but it's being cooled
22:26 Cprossu by a fan.
22:26 LeadHead No, it's not
22:26 Cprossu in the hot test
22:26 Cprossu yeah it is
22:26 LeadHead It's 500 watts of heat
22:26 LeadHead being dumped into the case.
22:26 Seroster BotSteve, should I mess around with a live CRT?
22:26 BotSteve I don't think so
22:26 Cprossu doesn't matter it's air movement
22:26 Seroster Right
22:26 LeadHead Okay
22:26 LeadHead than in the cold test, it was fine stewing at 500 watts
22:26 exor674 Seroster: depends on if you want to die today, I imagine
22:27 speedrunnerG55 Hi. Oh  man i was dreaming i was in irc
22:27 LeadHead and I STILL don't see your point.
22:27 speedrunnerG55 Lol
22:27 Cprossu .tfw 85020
22:27 Cprossu damnit BotSteve
22:27 LeadHead Because no PC in the real world will have no cooling fans at all
22:27 BotSteve 110�F?! ITS FUCKING...ARE YOU OKAY? IN Phoenix, AZ!  'Do you have life insurance?'
22:27 LeadHead unless its liquid cooled with a passive radiator
22:27 LeadHead in which case
22:27 LeadHead there would be no heat in the case anyways
22:27 Cprossu the one I'd be building passivly would literally have no fan
22:27 Cprossu I've done it before
22:27 LeadHead and it won't even come near to using 500 watts
22:27 Cprossu underclocked Athlon64 X2 in that case
22:28 Cprossu the hard drives were a bigger PITA than the graphics and the cpu heat wise
22:29 Cprossu btw holy crap it's 110 out lol
22:29 Cprossu .c 110f to c
22:29 BotSteve 43.3333333 degrees Celsius
22:31 Cprossu all I am saying LeadHead, is since his temp sensors are on the case... in some aribitrary position the data is useless
22:31 LeadHead the exhaust temperature is on the outside of the PSU's grill
22:31 LeadHead intake temperature is on the inside of the PSU right at the "intake"
22:31 Cprossu it would be just like the battery people in the commercial
22:32 LeadHead So he's got 41*C air going into that PSU
22:32 Cprossu cooking the diehard battery at "150F" which is hotter than death valley
22:32 Cprossu but not hotter than under the hood of your car.
22:33 LeadHead I fail to see how that relates to a PSU that will have absolutely no issue with any kind of load you could put on it
22:33 Cprossu If I was at the lab we'd rig up two computer systems identically configured and wait around for the next 7 years =P
22:36 Cprossu LeadHead: I wish he'd settle on one MV scale
22:36 Cprossu http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules/NDReviews/images/SeasonicSS400FL/Oscope/CL2-12V1.jpg
22:36 Cprossu http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules/NDReviews/images/SuperflowerSF500P14FG/Oscope/CL2-12V1.jpg
22:36 LeadHead go look whos reviewing
22:37 Cprossu oklahomawolf on the superflower, oklahomawolf on the seasonic
22:41 Cprossu well at least other comparables are around the same scale
22:41 Cprossu http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules/NDReviews/images/SeasonicSS400FL/Oscope/T1-12V1.jpg
22:41 Cprossu http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules/NDReviews/images/SuperflowerSF500P14FG/Oscope/LLT-12V1.jpg
22:41 Druidic_Rifleman frig madagasgar is the hardest p[lace to whipe out in pandemic
22:42 Cprossu I wonder why there seems to be an AC wave popping through at even low power levels
22:46 LeadHead http://www.newegg.com/Store/Promotion.aspx?storeid=40&amp;cm_sp=Homepage_LB-_-marketplace/11-1724-_-http%3a%2f%2fpromotions.newegg.com%2fmarketplace%2f11-1724%2f980x130.jpg
22:46 LeadHead wtfnewegg
22:50 tonsofpcs hihi
22:53 Cprossu just got off phone with steve
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22:54 Cprossu LeadHead: WTF is this blashphemy?!
22:55 Cprossu LeadHead: WTF?!
22:55 Cprossu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=02Q-000O-01JJ6&amp;cm_re=condom-_-02Q-000O-01JJ6-_-Product
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22:55 LeadHead Why is Newegg becoming walmart
22:56 Cprossu Geek walmart lol
22:57 tonsofpcs they've sold that stuff for somet ime
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22:58 Cprossu tonsofpcs : I guess I live under a rock
22:58 tonsofpcs they even put out 'what should we sell more of' emails once in a while....
22:59 LeadHead oh
22:59 LeadHead I'm not on their email list
22:59 LeadHead 'cause I don't want that junk
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23:00 Cprossu hello steve! tggmc
23:00 tggmc hello, webchat is working here again
23:00 BotSteve tggmc: I have the following messages for you:
23:00 BotSteve At 04:54Z, tonsofpcs asked me to tell tggmc Hi person in Master Control!  We were wondering if some kind folks could bring the other Chyron (and other video keying gear) up to MC!  See tonsofpcs, Cprossu, or egrsteve for details if needed (it's big and heavy and is more than a one-person job).
23:01 Cprossu oh yeah forgot about that
23:01 tggmc rebooting now
23:01 tggmc brb
23:01 Cprossu good deal
23:02 Cprossu .tfw 85020
23:02 BotSteve 110�F?! ITS FUCKING...ARE YOU OKAY? IN Phoenix, AZ!  'I'll be in the fridge.'
23:02 Toastdude Lol
23:02 Druidic_Rifleman Any one know what Colage/university course's Center around medical illnesses such as deseases and such...
23:03 Cprossu I must have screwed up the teamviewer software settings somehow tggmc
23:04 tonsofpcs Druidic_Rifleman: ask the CDC?
23:04 Druidic_Rifleman hmmmm
23:04 tonsofpcs Cprossu: how'd you do that?
23:04 Cprossu tonsofpcs: it was so cool being logged in all last night and waking up in the morning to see that it was still logged in
23:04 Cprossu I did a presentation with it
23:04 tonsofpcs Cprossu: lol
23:04 Cprossu to show KB3NZQ what he was up against
23:04 tonsofpcs you've never had a remote access session last that long?
23:04 tonsofpcs up against?
23:05 Cprossu he was thinking we could just wipe it and start out fresh
23:05 tonsofpcs wipe what?
23:05 Cprossu and that we could have these things called default config files xD
23:05 Cprossu the JNS
23:05 tonsofpcs lol
23:05 Cprossu softwares
23:05 tonsofpcs KB3NZQ: no.  please no.  Not again.
23:05 Cprossu tggmc : not coming up
23:05 Cprossu but what we can have is
23:06 tggmc grc757
23:06 tonsofpcs Cprossu: clonezilla the drive?
23:06 tggmc truck may be here
23:06 tonsofpcs also, make the system RAID1
23:06 tonsofpcs truck?
23:07 tggmc moose is here so truck will be soon if it's not already
23:07 LeadHead Truck from where
23:07 tonsofpcs moose!
23:07 * tonsofpcs needs to email moose
23:08 Toastdude Please tell Moose I said Hi, Steve
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23:08 * tonsofpcs needs to finish the crazy week of production before he crafts emails
23:16 Druidic_Rifleman I hate madagascar....
23:16 Druidic_Rifleman Stupid island
23:17 Druidic_Rifleman tggmc is that stee?
23:17 Druidic_Rifleman Steve?
23:17 SparkyProjects Madagascar always seems to survive in the game of 'virus' :P
23:18 SparkyProjects Steve is in MDH sorting gaylords
23:18 Druidic_Rifleman Is there any way to do a picture in picture with a Diagram of what camera is being desplayed and where it is looking
23:18 SparkyProjects sorry, game was 'pandemic' i think
23:19 tonsofpcs good game
23:19 Druidic_Rifleman yeah bugger's keep surving
23:19 tonsofpcs we lost last thursday :( cascaded 4 cities ...
23:19 Druidic_Rifleman it's getting me in the mood for the Summer wasaga beaatch big game
23:19 SparkyProjects A diagram would have to be manual, as the cameras get panned around a bit
23:20 Druidic_Rifleman For the fixed cameras atleast it would work
23:20 Druidic_Rifleman though a sensor with a compass could be moutned to the camera
23:20 tonsofpcs Druidic_Rifleman: once we get a chyron working, yes
23:20 Druidic_Rifleman chyron
23:20 SparkyProjects I don't think there are any fixed ones yet
23:20 tonsofpcs and it wouldn't be dynamic easily but you could make a diagram that shows pan range
23:21 SparkyProjects heh, 360 degree pan range and more, most are on tripods, plus a camera boom
23:21 tonsofpcs although i suppose if their chyron has the 'data' plugin, you could populate it with directionality and have a directional bar turn in the diagram to show angle
23:21 SparkyProjects MDH camera is currently pointing south-east if that helps :P
23:22 tonsofpcs (there's a fancier name for the data thing)
23:23 SparkyProjects Those livecam things where you can take control aren't much good either, you only know that if the sliders are centred, the camera is at the centre of a fixed range
23:24 SparkyProjects you don't actually know the direction
23:24 Druidic_Rifleman Comass heading is very usefull
23:24 Cprossu I DIDN'T DO IT
23:24 Druidic_Rifleman Compass headign* it lets people know what they are looking at
23:24 Cprossu tggmc router needs reboot
23:25 SparkyProjects With  a size 11 boot :P
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23:26 SparkyProjects Actually, if you watch the stream enough times, plus the 'tour' vids, you can work out the layout of the building and hence where the cam is pointing
23:26 SparkyProjects I reckon i could find my way round there without help :D
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23:34 Druidic_Rifleman Nods the MDH is a paint cause things are moving around
23:37 tggmc tonsofpcs, you might like this, I just back focused a lens with a brick wall, worked great
23:37 tonsofpcs with a brick wall? wow.
23:37 tonsofpcs that's impressiev.
23:37 tonsofpcs tggmc: do you need a good siemens star?
23:38 tggmc I have a file, I just need to make use of a good laser printer to print it
23:38 SparkyProjects Once they get the right cameras donated, they will probably have at least one fixed camera in each of the main areas (MDH, HVL, Cafe), then maybe we could select which we watch, these will be a general view, like the one in the MDH viewing area
23:38 tonsofpcs tggmc: actually, do any of the cameras you got have manuals?
23:38 tonsofpcs usually inserted into the manuals for good cameras is a litho-printed siemens star
23:38 tggmc i doubt it, if thwy did, I have yet to see one
23:39 tonsofpcs (or you can make one with paper and exacto knives)
23:39 tggmc thats true or I could cut one with a laser at school
23:39 tggmc makes a nice clean edge on poster board
23:40 tonsofpcs well, you don't want it 3D
23:40 tggmc hmm, true
23:40 * exor674 wonders how her laser printer would print it
23:40 tonsofpcs you could cut a black poster board into triangles and a white one into triangles and arrange them in a circle
23:40 tggmc or just heavy black paper
23:40 tggmc that I could do
23:40 tggmc ok, back to fixing cameras
23:41 tonsofpcs that's how the first 'color bars' chip chart I used was made
23:41 tggmc you have to have the right color papers for that one
23:41 tonsofpcs a bunch of pieces of foam core cut and reassembled
23:41 tonsofpcs yea, this was an old professonal made one
23:41 tonsofpcs at work now we have a DSC labs chart
23:41 tggmc ah ok
23:42 tonsofpcs actually... I have (personal) credit with DSC Labs --- I wonder if I could order a few grey card / siemens star flip cards and send one there....
23:42 tggmc hmm, x-rite is on GR I wonder if they would donate color cal stuff
23:42 tggmc for moniters
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23:42 tggmc they recentlly bought out pantone
23:43 tonsofpcs wait, what?  really?!?!?
23:43 tggmc (last couple years)
23:43 tonsofpcs but pantone is pantone, they can't be not pantone!
23:43 Druidic_Rifleman oooooh someone built a replca of the most recent bat mobile
23:44 tggmc they haev kept teh pantone brand, with good reason too
23:44 Druidic_Rifleman who is at tggmc
23:44 tggmc steve
23:44 Druidic_Rifleman hey steve
23:44 tggmc hello, back to looking at cameras
23:45 Cprossu tggmc be back in a moment
23:45 Cprossu I found your 8 "quickpick" set buttons
23:45 Cprossu we can config those in a bit
23:45 tggmc ok
23:45 tggmc cool
23:45 Cprossu also the transition set
23:46 Cprossu might need some tweaking
23:46 tggmc tons of pcs this is the wall i used
23:46 tggmc ( see stream)
23:46 tonsofpcs tggmc: still, impressive
23:46 tggmc although a diff camera
23:47 * tonsofpcs backfocuses with a siemens star on a fujinon-provided poster uusually
23:47 tggmc nice
23:47 tonsofpcs i have a few of em
23:47 tonsofpcs they come with cameras/lenses/etc.
23:47 tonsofpcs the GVG cams all came with green paper siemens stars
23:47 tonsofpcs you can also backfocus relatively easily with resolution trumpets
23:48 tonsofpcs (I check backfocus on the studio cams on the resolution trumpets on my DSC Labs chromadumonde chip chart whenever i shade them)
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23:51 KB3NZQ_Biostar can one of the op's please kill nick KB3NZQ my laptop just switched AP's on me
23:52 exor674 KB3NZQ_Biostar: nobody here has the power to kick them off the network
23:52 exor674 the nick'll still be bloced
23:52 exor674 if it's registered you can /msg nickserv ghost KB3NZQ password
23:53 KB3NZQ_Biostar i did not reg that nick
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23:58 Cprossu tggmc: did you say that other (likely 2u?) button set we had was a CP3000A?
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23:59 Cprossu I would like to know exactly what saturn, jupiter, mars, venus, whatever switcher router parts we actually have @ tggmc steve

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