Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-06-23

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Time Nick Message
00:00 Cprossu so we can lay the framweork for the API
00:01 Seroster What is the purpose of the high frequenzies of induction cooktops? Efficiency, sound?  I understand it to be half a transformer, with the cookware being the one shorted secondary winding, shoulnt it work just as well with 50hz?
00:01 Seroster Or is it to keep sound down?
00:02 SparkyProjects Haha, found the radio they are listenng to in MDH, considering there's a 5 sec delay for the stream, there's about a 15 sec delay to 'listening live'
00:02 SparkyProjects http://wgrd.com/streaming-player   :D
00:02 Seroster lol
00:03 tonsofpcs Seroster: interference mitigation maybe? (idk)
00:03 Seroster I know transformers are more efficient at higher frequenzies, might be that?
00:05 Cprossu lol hahahaha @ SparkyProjects
00:05 Cprossu the radio stream is WAY behind
00:05 Cprossu the geekgroup stream
00:05 KB3NZQ http://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/fmq?list=0&facid=55650
00:06 SparkyProjects Seroster, what do you know about 'induction furnaces' ?
00:06 SparkyProjects Try to heat something up on 50 - 60Hz and the transformer windings get hot, but do it at HF it doesn't
00:06 SparkyProjects Also there will be less current, much like the switch mode power supplies in computers (smaller transformer too)
00:06 Seroster Eh
00:07 Cprossu and the commercials seem different too, SparkyProjects
00:07 Seroster SparkyProjects, I know more than most but less than some about induction furnaces.  I have repaired a few induction cooktops, but since it was a warranty repair company I worked for you just ripped the entire damn bord and replaced it
00:08 KB3NZQ i heard the station ID with the call WGRD and the above link to fcc is it's license
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00:09 SparkyProjects OK, lets take a 5 amp transformer on 50Hz, think of the size
00:09 SparkyProjects Now take a 5 amp 'wall wart' supply, it's a tiny transformer in comparison.
00:09 SparkyProjects So i think it's about efficiency
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00:11 astro73|tgg is now known as astro73|tgg-ms
00:11 astro73|tgg-ms is now known as astro73|tgg-mc
00:11 Cprossu hey astro73|tgg-mc
00:11 astro73|tgg-mc hey
00:11 astro73|tgg-mc steve's doing his camera thing
00:11 Cprossu hey can you grab steve
00:11 Cprossu ifb is online
00:12 astro73|tgg-mc ifb?
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00:12 astro73|tgg-mc he's right here
00:14 Cprossu nah I meant the person who helped us get the lisc
00:15 Cprossu don't worry about it for now
00:15 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: DruidicRifleman on First light....for real this time.
00:15 Cprossu but ask steve if he knows what he wants set for the transistion type set, I've got it up for him to edit
00:16 Cprossu as that's not in my area of expertise, astro73|tgg-mc
00:16 astro73|tgg-mc ok
00:16 Cprossu also were you able to get all the saturn/mars/venus/whatever stuff model number taken down?
00:16 Cprossu ^ again at astro73|tgg-mc
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00:17 tonsofpcs ifb is always 'online' ;)
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00:18 Cprossu thank you tggmc and astro73|tgg-mc
00:19 astro73|tgg-mc i'm working on those model numbers
00:19 Cprossu sweet
00:19 Cprossu and were you guys able to lug the other duet up yet?
00:19 Cprossu tonsofpcs is eager to play with it
00:19 KB3NZQ thank you astro73
00:19 tonsofpcs heh
00:20 tonsofpcs i do have time tomorrow morning
00:20 tonsofpcs it's show night so i don't have to work til afternoon
00:20 Cprossu ^ again @ astro73|tgg-mc
00:20 Cprossu :)
00:21 astro73|tgg-mc i'm not usually up early morning; I'm not actually staff. And it's con week
00:21 Cprossu nah I mean lugging the duet up
00:21 Cprossu once it has remote in it won't matter
00:21 tonsofpcs astro73|tgg-mc: it needs a few people to carry it up the stairs, per egrsteve
00:21 KB3NZQ wtf why did the stream just stop and jump to an ad
00:21 tonsofpcs KB3NZQ: idk, it did that to me 5 minutes ago
00:21 KB3NZQ then come back
00:22 Cprossu I think that's because the router needs rebooting
00:22 tonsofpcs KB3NZQ: also, when I turned my monitor on earlier, stream was at an (!) and i had to reload
00:22 astro73|tgg-mc oh
00:22 tonsofpcs Cprossu: s/boot/plac/
00:22 astro73|tgg-mc today was cleaning out the mdh and a k-zoo run
00:23 SparkyProjects The stream has been doing that about every half hour all afternoon for me, i think Ustream are trying to generate more revenue :P
00:23 astro73|tgg-mc assy mcc-3500a/d  consl w/dsply
00:23 Cprossu ustream premium members?
00:23 Cprossu fuck
00:24 Cprossu ustream has gone livestream on is
00:24 Cprossu *us
00:25 astro73|tgg-mc Cprossu: you got that?
00:25 Cprossu astro73|tgg-mc : that's the one currently running right?
00:25 astro73|tgg-mc that's the console in the table
00:25 Cprossu k, so that one's hot.
00:25 Cprossu good to know it's the /d model
00:25 astro73|tgg-mc it's got a running clock and timer
00:26 Cprossu yeah that's the one we configured :)
00:26 Cprossu and it works.
00:26 Cprossu the frame itself should be an AVP3500
00:26 Cprossu *AVP-3500
00:27 astro73|tgg-mc still looking for it
00:27 Cprossu it's underneath
00:27 astro73|tgg-mc yeah, i don't think it's labelled on the front :/
00:27 Cprossu and has 2 rows of BNC's on the back
00:28 Cprossu and a cable going to the mcc and the hub
00:28 Cprossu coax ethernet 10b2
00:29 Cprossu what I am really interested in are the pieces of this system that are either shelved in storage or otherwise.
00:29 astro73|tgg-mc assy avp-3500 chas fnl
00:29 astro73|tgg-mc did you want SNs too?
00:30 Cprossu nah
00:30 KB3NZQ i don't think i need the sn#'s it is up tp cprossu
00:30 Cprossu we'll deal with SN's
00:30 Cprossu if we need to pull new equipment up
00:31 astro73|tgg-mc k
00:31 Cprossu but we got it for the frame and control surface already that are actually wired in, astro73|tgg-mc
00:31 Cprossu what we don't have much info on is a potential DVP-3500, a CP-3000A, and another MCC-3500A/D
00:31 lwq_sleeping i wish i had a solder gun...it would make it easier to fix these solar lights im working on
00:32 Cprossu ^ again at astro73|tgg-mc
00:32 Cprossu and look for anything in our collection that resembles it
00:32 astro73|tgg-mc ummm...
00:32 Cprossu in make and stuff
00:32 Cprossu those pieces are not installed.
00:32 Cprossu though the cp-3000 might be up in MC with you
00:32 astro73|tgg-mc yeah, there's another board not hooked, "old"
00:32 Cprossu as steve brought it up with him
00:32 Cprossu it won't even be mounted
00:32 Cprossu if it's the right one
00:33 astro73|tgg-mc MCC-3500/D
00:33 astro73|tgg-mc sitting on a rubbermaid
00:33 astro73|tgg-mc with a broken button
00:33 Cprossu ok that's the other surface control then
00:33 Cprossu and it's a /D not a A/d?
00:34 astro73|tgg-mc just a /d
00:35 Cprossu ok
00:35 Cprossu next thing you are looking for is NOT in mc
00:35 astro73|tgg-mc what's the DVP and CP?
00:35 astro73|tgg-mc lovely
00:36 Cprossu let me get you a pic
00:36 astro73|tgg-mc ok
00:37 Cprossu http://i.ebayimg.com/08/!BZT7wNQB2k~$%28KGrHgoH-C4EjlLlzVVHBKmD2Z2d%29Q~~_35.JPG
00:37 Cprossu ^ nest thing you are looking for
00:37 Cprossu http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp4/mccominc/PhilipsCP-3000pic2.jpg
00:37 Cprossu *next
00:37 astro73|tgg-mc what's the other thing?
00:37 Cprossu DVP 3500 should be a frame
00:38 astro73|tgg-mc that's all you got for me? *sigh*
00:38 CaptainBoden astro, are you in master control?
00:38 BotSteve CaptainBoden: I have the following messages for you:
00:38 BotSteve At 22 Jun 04:52Z, Cprossu asked me to tell CaptainBoden egrsteve, tonsofpcs, and me would like it if it's bossible to get the other Duet keyer up in master control tomorrow/this morning :)
00:38 BotSteve At 22 Jun 04:53Z, Cprossu asked me to tell CaptainBoden "*Possible even"
00:38 BotSteve At 22 Jun 08:01Z, Cprossu asked me to tell CaptainBoden Remote switching is a go (even if it is a little kludgetastic), Saturn and Jupiter Server is now UTC and in sync, and........uh......... magic!, that's right, magic!!
00:38 Cprossu ignore most of that, CaptainBoden
00:38 Cprossu sorry
00:39 CaptainBoden lol ok
00:39 CaptainBoden Astro?
00:39 astro73|tgg-mc dvp is in mc
00:39 astro73|tgg-mc CaptainBoden: yeah
00:39 CaptainBoden DVP?
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00:39 CaptainBoden Astro, who else is up there?
00:39 Cprossu we're going through all our saturn and jupiter and planet parts, CaptainBoden
00:39 astro73|tgg-mc Cprossu: ASSY DVP-3500 CHAS FNL
00:39 CaptainBoden Groovy, who else is up there.
00:40 Cprossu CaptainBoden: also we're going to have to change stream providers =(
00:40 astro73|tgg-mc CaptainBoden: steve was working up here, but he wondered off
00:40 Cprossu ustream started putting shit tons of re-curring ads in
00:40 CaptainBoden So, you're alone, in master control.
00:40 astro73|tgg-mc atm, yes. Is that a problem?
00:40 CaptainBoden Go find Steve, right now.
00:40 CaptainBoden Yes, that's a problem.
00:40 astro73|tgg-mc *sigh*
00:41 CaptainBoden I have no issue with you up there with Steve, totally cool, but not solo.
00:41 astro73|tgg-mc he was by the studios
00:41 Cprossu ok so dvp-3500.. hrmmm
00:41 CaptainBoden He'll be back presently?
00:42 CaptainBoden Wasn't he going to be working on cameras?
00:42 astro73|tgg-mc yeah, i just found him down from mc
00:42 Cprossu he was working on cameras.
00:42 CaptainBoden So..Cprossu, who do we want as a stream provider?
00:42 tonsofpcs he was.
00:42 Cprossu at least last I heard
00:42 CaptainBoden k
00:43 Cprossu btw astro73|tgg-mc 's going to help us reverse-engineer the packet structure
00:43 astro73|tgg-mc Cprossu: steve says there is NOT a cp unit
00:43 Cprossu ^ @ CaptainBoden
00:43 Cprossu ahhhh ok
00:43 Cprossu so we can make a more friendly switching API
00:44 astro73|tgg-mc showed him the picture and everything
00:44 tonsofpcs Cprossu: there's switching available over RS422....
00:44 Cprossu let me know what other phillips/thompson equipment you're able to find, though
00:44 CaptainBoden CP?
00:44 Cprossu be right back
00:45 KB3NZQ captain check your pm
00:45 Cprossu k, back
00:46 Cprossu hrmmm switching over rs422 would be useful
00:46 SparkyProjects CaptainBoden, Usteam has only played up tonight with the ads, been getting it about every half hour, maybe give them 24 hours, though it wouldn't hurt to look for another provider just in case
00:46 SparkyProjects Any free provider will have ads though
00:46 Cprossu I just can't find the documentation for using it
00:46 CaptainBoden ok, what is CP?
00:47 astro73|tgg-mc CaptainBoden: http://i.ebayimg.com/08/!BZT7wNQB2k~$%28KGrHgoH-C4EjlLlzVVHBKmD2Z2d%29Q~~_35.JPG
00:47 astro73|tgg-mc except steve says you don't have one
00:47 CaptainBoden *headdesk*
00:47 Cprossu what's the headdesk for?
00:47 CaptainBoden Still have no idea what a CP is.......
00:48 Cprossu it's a control panel for the phillips saturn stuff
00:48 Cprossu cp is just the prefix
00:48 CaptainBoden What, exactly, does it DO?
00:48 Cprossu well in this case it would allow us rs232 control of the router
00:48 Cprossu which is a lot easier to deal with
00:49 Cprossu AVP3500 = Our saturn analog video router
00:49 Cprossu MCC 3500A/D = Our saturn control surface
00:50 Cprossu Jupiter = the fucked up piece of shit software package which builds the vxworks operating system image that the AVP3500 boots and runs
00:51 CaptainBoden Is it some manner of custom linux perhaps?
00:51 Cprossu no it's worse
00:51 Cprossu it's a proprietary real time OS based loosly on unix
00:52 exor674 wait, you have to *reflash* the AVP3500 when you change anything?
00:52 CaptainBoden iew
00:52 Cprossu yes.
00:52 Cprossu and it's worse than that exor674
00:52 exor674 Cprossu: ... whose bad idea was THAT?
00:52 Cprossu I am not a phillips or thompson engineer
00:52 Cprossu don't ask me
00:52 astro73|tgg-mc it's not reflashed, it loads it's boot image over the network
00:52 Cprossu I just make the bloody thing work
00:52 astro73|tgg-mc yes?
00:53 Cprossu and I was going to say yeah it loads it into VOLITILE memory
00:53 Cprossu though it does have some nvram and firmware
00:53 Cprossu and from what I gather if you bork it you're SOL
00:53 exor674 lol
00:53 astro73|tgg-mc soldering iron and flash controllers?
00:54 Cprossu CaptainBoden: http://pastebin.com/XefUiYnp
00:54 Cprossu ^ this is how many processes run on the damn thing
00:54 KB3NZQ Captainboden check out stickam   stickam.com for video streaming
00:54 Seroster There was a miele wascator in the dumpster... That's $3000> new, with parts well over a grand. (even if one part broke down). Damn.
00:55 Cprossu so it's not like we can just load something random on them and use it =( it's entirely a custom proprietary unsupported mess.
00:55 CaptainBoden Cprossu will be in charge of the new streaming provider. He's a freak with this stuff, I trust him to choose the best one.
00:56 Cprossu I'll have to do some research into it.
00:56 Cprossu btw did your video cards arrive yet?
00:56 CaptainBoden I wish there was a way we could stream our own in a manner that doesn't nuke bandwidth.
00:56 CaptainBoden Tomorrow.
00:58 Cprossu good. things are hopefully starting to fit together.
00:58 CaptainBoden Slowly
00:59 SparkyProjects CaptainBoden, just thinking about the future, if you had your own managed server at a datacentre (like The Planet), could you run a streaming server from that ? basically your own hosted stream, but located elsewhere
00:59 CaptainBoden The technology has to exist to do this from here somehow.
00:59 tonsofpcs Cprossu: alternatively, just use something that can automate clicking things on the screen and use it to control the jupiter soft surfface
01:00 Cprossu it does, CaptainBoden, but that Netgear router will get in the way ;)
01:00 tonsofpcs CaptainBoden: it does.  You can get hardware that does it.  Bandwidth is the killer :(
01:00 astro73|tgg-mc tonsofpcs: that sounds ... extra icky
01:00 tonsofpcs astro73|tgg-mc: welcome to the world of getting things done.  Sometimes you have to get 'icky' to make it happen ;)
01:00 CaptainBoden There has to be a way to stream ONE, say 500kb stream, and an unlimited number of people can watch it.
01:00 CaptainBoden Broadcasting.
01:01 CaptainBoden and we can build our own router.
01:01 SparkyProjects The technoogy probably exists, but currently your bandwidth probably wont allow it, especially if you have a lot of computers running at some time
01:01 tonsofpcs CaptainBoden: IP Multicast.  In theory, IPv6 will fix this so that it's actually usable over the internet...
01:01 astro73|tgg-mc tonsofpcs: let me clarify. Mouse hacking sounds awful
01:01 Cprossu yeah there's plenty. once you have your own router it'll be fine
01:01 tonsofpcs astro73|tgg-mc: you were being quite clear :)
01:02 astro73|tgg-mc besides, Cprossu wants something he'll like using. And this is the geek group. We never do anything small
01:04 tonsofpcs astro73|tgg-mc: yea, which is why I'm wondering why not make a control chip system that talks RS422... why hack at IP space? that's too easy :-p
01:04 Hackbat WOOOOOO!
01:04 Hackbat my Chip came in!
01:04 astro73|tgg-mc because that's what the MCC and AVP use to communicate
01:05 CaptainBoden we start simple, make it work, we can make as many designs and systems and upgrades as we want.
01:05 astro73|tgg-mc and we don't have the RS-232 equipment
01:05 CaptainBoden To start, I want something that simply works.
01:05 Cprossu I already thought about macros
01:05 tonsofpcs astro73|tgg-mc: right, but it's RS422 controllable.  There's documentation of this.  In fact, there might be documentation of the control scheme so you can implement it yourself.
01:05 Cprossu we have something that works right now CaptainBoden
01:05 Cprossu it's just difficult
01:05 CaptainBoden we do?
01:05 tonsofpcs CaptainBoden: exactly.  Which is why I suggested the 'mouse hacking'
01:05 Cprossu yep.
01:05 Cprossu I Worked on it last night
01:05 Seroster EEEP! Kilovolt meter! 0.1 to 20kv, with safety gap and wonderfulness!  Shall I buy this expensive piece of vintage technology I will never use, or let someone who could find a use get it?
01:05 CaptainBoden show me
01:05 tonsofpcs Cprossu: oo
01:05 Cprossu for the remote switching of the system
01:05 Seroster http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h45/melkutt/DSCN1778.jpg
01:06 Cprossu ok let's try this
01:06 Cprossu what OS are you on right now, CaptainBoden, gentoo?
01:06 CaptainBoden Ubuntu
01:06 CaptainBoden I *want* that meter in our lab.
01:06 CaptainBoden that's sexy
01:06 Cprossu http://teamviewer.com/en/download/index.aspx
01:06 CaptainBoden I want to mar it with my scent.
01:06 Cprossu ^ CaptainBoden get the ubuntu version of teamviewer
01:06 Hackbat Gentoo, The worlds hardest text based game.
01:07 Cprossu at least if you get ssh going it's multiplayer, Hackbat
01:07 CaptainBoden Fuck, I'm on my laptop, is a T61 Lenovo 32 or 64
01:07 Hackbat IRC, multiplayer Gedit.
01:07 astro73|tgg-mc tonsofpcs: is our equipment RS-422 right now? because i'm sure we could make an rs-232 adaptor
01:08 Cprossu hey can you have steve set the switcher to stream output?, astro73|tgg-mc
01:08 tonsofpcs astro73|tgg-mc: the router frame is RS422 controllable.  You can adapt 232 to 422 easily.
01:09 astro73|tgg-mc steve left for food
01:09 CaptainBoden am I 32 or 64.......
01:09 Cprossu looking
01:09 exor674 I'd assume one of the higher layers is the problem
01:09 Cprossu didn't most t61's have 64bit?
01:10 exor674 not the physical layer ( basterdizing the OSI model terminology to this )
01:10 tonsofpcs CaptainBoden: "uname -a" should tell you
01:10 Cprossu c2d is 64bit but you could have still installed 32bit, CaptainBoden
01:10 CaptainBoden trying 64
01:12 Cprossu CaptainBoden: you could also pull up a terminal window and sudo grep flags /proc/cpuinfo
01:12 astro73|tgg-mc Cprossu: steve says ok
01:14 tggmc saturn is online
01:14 tggmc 0,1,2 have sources
01:15 Cprossu cool.
01:18 Seroster CaptainBoden, Do you want the meter I linked to in the lab, CaptainBoden?
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01:18 Seroster I could hook you up with the guy who sells it, but it will be overseas shipping plus a tiny price for the actual meter
01:19 Seroster http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h45/melkutt/DSCN1654.jpg   http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h45/melkutt/DSCN1655.jpg
01:21 tonsofpcs CaptainBoden: I wonder if you can find some old Bird Thruline Wattmeters that don't have matching slugs that you could use the needle meters from for power
01:21 Cprossu tggmc, astro73|tgg-mc, are we sure the saturn is patched into the stream?
01:22 Cprossu because we're not getting any switching action
01:22 KB3NZQ cprossu i need your help for a min or 2
01:22 Seroster Should I send the Info@thegeekgroup.org email to the dude, so he can send you a mail? (is that even the correct adress?)
01:22 Cprossu well I'll give it when I have the moment
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01:22 BotSteve At last!  My only friend!
01:22 Seroster Wb speed
01:23 speedrunnerG55 Hi
01:23 speedrunnerG55 Thank you Seroster
01:23 KB3NZQ i need some one to tell me if when some one starts watching my stream on stickam if there is an ad or not
01:23 * astro73|tgg-mc compliments speedrunnerG55
01:23 Seroster http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h45/melkutt/DSCN1778.jpg  speedrunnerG55, dont ye think that is a fucking awesome piece of mechanics?
01:23 KB3NZQ stickam.com/kb3nzq
01:24 Cprossu yes , tggmc
01:24 Cprossu give me a sec
01:24 Cprossu got my headset
01:24 Cprossu what's up?
01:24 astro73|tgg-mc is now known as astro73|tgg
01:24 tonsofpcs ebay has a bunch of aftermarket 'faces' for the thrulines that could be usable too.
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01:24 Cprossu so we are patched in now?
01:25 astro73|tgg Cprossu: he's working on it?
01:25 * tonsofpcs takes that fade as a 'yes'
01:25 speed-mobile Hi
01:25 speed-mobile Lll Cprossu
01:25 speed-mobile Lol*^
01:25 tonsofpcs speed-mobile: how was that slurpee?
01:26 speed-mobile I didnt get one
01:26 speed-mobile :(
01:26 tonsofpcs me neither :(
01:26 tonsofpcs grrr @ Ad
01:27 KB3NZQ should be a restream of TGG but w/out sound or very low sound
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01:27 astro73|tgg could just hit the mute button on the page?
01:27 Cprossu cool.  remote switching is a go at least
01:27 KB3NZQ on my stickam tons??
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01:28 tonsofpcs Cprossu: what method are you using?
01:28 speed-mobile And Seroster
01:28 KB3NZQ speed are you watching it?
01:28 speed-mobile No
01:29 Seroster WTF
01:29 Cprossu the remote in and control it with ethernet JNS's physical control software, @ tonsofpcs
01:29 speed-mobile Seroster: Is that a thermistat?
01:29 Seroster You aint a true geek, BE GONE!
01:29 Seroster That is a 20kv voltmeter
01:29 speed-mobile :(
01:29 * speed-mobile loogs at it again
01:29 Seroster The two balls is a safety gap
01:29 Cprossu CaptainBoden wants at the very least a nice web interface with 'thumbnail' buttons, with an eventual system of building it to autoupdate the pics
01:29 tonsofpcs Seroster: is it really? or is it just a meter marked as 20kV that needs some sort of sample coupling ....
01:30 Cprossu so that's doable
01:30 Seroster It is really
01:30 speed-mobile Ohhh
01:30 dr_jkl you know
01:30 Cprossu so we're gonna try the wireshark dump first
01:30 Seroster tonsofpcs, I sent a few more pics
01:30 dr_jkl things like aqua regia make me wonder if the lab has a fume hood.
01:30 tonsofpcs update the pic by capturing  2s after a switch after confirming that it switched?
01:30 Cprossu then try and retransmit the packets
01:30 Cprossu that would be sweet
01:30 tonsofpcs Cprossu: I still think that the RS422 interface is more elegant...
01:30 Seroster http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h45/melkutt/DSCN1655.jpg   Hot in on one side, cold on the other
01:30 Cprossu let me start a google dock
01:31 Cprossu yeah it could be, tonsofpcs
01:31 speed-mobile Cprossu: Hows the remote switcher comming?
01:31 astro73|tgg tonsofpcs: network isn't?
01:31 astro73|tgg it just requires additional research
01:31 Cprossu we can remotely switch. CaptainBoden made his first switch so that's good
01:31 tonsofpcs astro73|tgg: network you need to hijack the place of the control/configuration system
01:31 Cprossu tonsofpcs: no we don't
01:31 Cprossu we just give it a server listing!
01:32 Cprossu and it will take info from that mac
01:32 tonsofpcs Cprossu: oh, run it as an 'instance' of the control software?
01:32 Cprossu no control software just the packets we capture
01:32 Cprossu but the server software will have the secondary computer listed as a server
01:32 Cprossu so it doesn't ignore it's requests
01:32 Cprossu get my idea, tonsofpcs?
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01:33 Cprossu if it gives me a basic-> change x to x, verify x changed to x for each input on outputs 0 and 1
01:33 Cprossu that's only 32 packets we need to capture and be able to send out again
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01:33 Cprossu then it's a simple program to do that, tonsofpcs
01:33 Cprossu see the idea?
01:33 Toastdude Hi speedrunner
01:34 speedrunnerG55 Rawer
01:34 KB3NZQ cprossu are you remoted?
01:34 Cprossu send packet x, did switcher switch to right input/output(y/n), if y be happy if n send packet x again
01:34 Cprossu yeas I am remoted
01:34 Cprossu @ KB3NZQ
01:34 Cprossu what's up?
01:34 KB3NZQ ok
01:34 KB3NZQ wanted to watch
01:34 Cprossu check that out
01:35 Cprossu and back
01:35 tonsofpcs Cprossu: I wouldn't have the software resend commands.
01:35 tonsofpcs I would just have it alert to anticipated failure
01:35 tonsofpcs it's possible someone physically punched a button before you could confirm switching
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01:35 Cprossu that would be fine for onsite
01:35 Cprossu but I want at least 3 retrys
01:35 Cprossu before it gives up
01:35 Cprossu so let me make a google doc
01:35 Cprossu so we can throw ideas on it
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01:36 speed-mobile Rawers
01:36 speed-mobile Cprossu: Isnt that like a crc?
01:36 tonsofpcs Cprossu: I should be able to sniff the Jupiter serial control protocol here....
01:36 tonsofpcs PMing huge link
01:37 speed-mobile Make sure it isnt photo data
01:37 speed-mobile XD
01:37 Cprossu https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GRze_g_5lN7647_HrJjKMekWNwVucmC9n8Xgyib6wUQ/edit?pli=1&hl=en_US
01:37 speed-mobile ?
01:38 speed-mobile Whetever secret document that is idk
01:40 * tonsofpcs requested access to googledoc
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01:41 speed-mobile Can i join?
01:41 KB3NZQ me too
01:41 Toastdude What is it?
01:42 Cprossu ooops
01:42 Cprossu ok join now
01:42 Cprossu I forgot to make it public!
01:42 speed-mobile Sounds like programming ideas
01:42 Cprossu https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GRze_g_5lN7647_HrJjKMekWNwVucmC9n8Xgyib6wUQ/edit?hl=en_US&authkey=CMup7cQL
01:42 tonsofpcs they call it 'ascii control' so it sounds like it should be a simple proto
01:43 speed-mobile Ill acsess this on my laptop
01:43 tonsofpcs Cprossu: I disagree with that psuedocode _quite a bit.....
01:44 speed-mobile Psudu code ft....eh
01:44 KB3NZQ cprossu i have team viewer ready on this nick now when you login please PM me the code
01:45 astro73|tgg Cprossu: feel free to dream big on the interface
01:45 Cprossu not doing that, KB3NZQ
01:45 Cprossu and I will
01:45 Cprossu to astro73|tgg
01:45 astro73|tgg we can take it down later
01:45 Cprossu tonsofpcs do you have an idea?
01:45 Cprossu or just want to switch the switcher? =P
01:46 Cprossu whoops
01:46 Cprossu I meant KB3NZQ
01:46 Cprossu getting names wrong is embarassing!
01:46 KB3NZQ want to watch the packet capture is all
01:47 Cprossu we're setting up a different pc when we do that
01:47 Cprossu now that jupiter works I don't want to upset it
01:47 KB3NZQ i have so much on my mind about this i can't start even start to put to txt that is why i called u on echo link
01:48 KB3NZQ earlyer today
01:48 tonsofpcs Cprossu: I wrote my psuedocode in docc
01:48 tonsofpcs it probably needs a bit of cleanup
01:49 Cprossu do what you need to, add it to the doc
01:49 Cprossu I'll be right back.
01:49 astro73|tgg before you psudo-code too much, how about we figure out how it currently works?
01:49 Cprossu the more options we have to work with the better off it is
01:49 Cprossu astro73|tgg this is fine
01:49 Cprossu if we get it written down it's great
01:49 astro73|tgg ok
01:49 KB3NZQ ok
01:49 Cprossu it's great to have stuff and ideas
01:50 Cprossu so when you hit walls you can flip open the next one
01:50 Cprossu and I assure you we will hit walls
01:50 Cprossu big ones.
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01:50 astro73|tgg oh, yes. very
01:50 astro73|tgg the display has had several
01:50 tonsofpcs I just rearranged it since the conrtol method shouldn't care about the interface
01:51 speed-mobile I have to see this on a bigger screen
01:51 * speed-mobile starts up laptop
01:51 astro73|tgg need to make the 3rd design display
01:51 Cprossu first step of any software is we need to know what we want to do, how to do it, and what the customer wants, we call this a specification.
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01:52 Cprossu and it's great when you get to have a customer who actually has these clarified.
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01:52 astro73|tgg ok
01:52 tonsofpcs Input and Output = spec.  Process = how you get it done.
01:52 SpeedrunnerG55 can i have the link plees?
01:52 Cprossu https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GRze_g_5lN7647_HrJjKMekWNwVucmC9n8Xgyib6wUQ/edit?hl=en_US&authkey=CMup7cQL
01:52 SpeedrunnerG55 ty
01:53 Cprossu now I am on a bathroom break, so brb literally
01:56 astro73|tgg i'm heading out for a while
01:56 tonsofpcs we have all the docs, KB3NZQ
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01:56 Cprossu they don't say shit though lol
01:57 tonsofpcs I never said they were useful!
01:57 LeadHead man up
01:57 LeadHead who ever spelt Saturn
01:57 LeadHead Satern
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01:57 KB3NZQ when i say manuals and docs i mean user and service
01:57 Cprossu I have those KB3NZQ
01:58 Cprossu give me a moment
01:58 * KB3NZQ slaps leadhead it is fucking 10 pm where I live and i don't give a shit if i spelled it wrong
01:58 LeadHead Oh shit nigga
01:58 LeadHead I forgot just how late 10 PM was!
01:58 tonsofpcs http://www.grassvalley.com/apps/doc_show?set=routers&c=Jupiter|Jupiter%20Control%20Systems&super=broadcast&skin=gvcms#febs
01:59 tonsofpcs there's a zip file "Routers & Control Panels Documentation CD" there, KB3NZQ
01:59 Cprossu we have the engineering stuff from it too
01:59 tonsofpcs in addition, theres:
01:59 Cprossu but it's shit I gotta upload
01:59 tonsofpcs Cprossu: does that maybe document the "ASCII" (serial) interface?
02:00 Cprossu I have approx 1.5gb of material in here
02:00 Cprossu for all phillips broadcasting stuff
02:00 tonsofpcs KB3NZQ: moved your comments to end of document
02:00 tonsofpcs Cprossu: wow
02:00 KB3NZQ cprossu if those docs are all in word & PDF then please just put them on google docs
02:00 KB3NZQ @ tons ok
02:01 KB3NZQ BRB need to get a drink
02:01 Cprossu the issue is I don't want to uh... let it out in it's present cd image form
02:01 Cprossu and the pdf's
02:01 Cprossu are broken into like 25 fiels
02:01 Cprossu which is fucking annoying
02:01 Cprossu for each piece of equipment
02:01 KB3NZQ you mean it is an iso
02:02 Cprossu exactly.
02:02 Cprossu 3 of them.
02:02 Cprossu it's going to take me an hour just to transfer them here
02:02 tonsofpcs leg cramp brb
02:02 KB3NZQ i have an in house ftp i will make you an account if you want to upload them around midnight
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02:03 Cprossu keep in mind these are engineering and service docs
02:03 KB3NZQ_Biostar cprossu pm me w/ a password for your ftp account
02:04 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok
02:04 Cprossu what speed can I upload them at?
02:04 KB3NZQ_Biostar my download is 3mb
02:04 KB3NZQ_Biostar so 390kb is what you will get through
02:05 LeadHead Who wants to see a Porsche 911 get shot up but a variety of semi auto and fully automatic rifles?
02:05 LeadHead *by a
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02:06 Cprossu pm, KB3NZQ
02:06 LinuxH4x0r depends, is there a driver inside?
02:08 tonsofpcs back
02:09 Cprossu ok, those who will need it will get a copy in ISO
02:09 Cprossu of the documentation sets
02:09 Cprossu but don't spread them around, k?
02:10 Cprossu I'd use the most recent one but there are 3 there, a 1999, a 2002, and a 2003.
02:10 Cprossu and hopefully CaptainBoden gets here
02:11 KB3NZQ ok back
02:11 Cprossu let me see if I can just extract the jupiter specific stuff
02:11 Cprossu and get the filesize down
02:12 Cprossu *jupiter and saturn
02:12 Cprossu hey there tggmc
02:12 KB3NZQ ok that is cool with me
02:12 tggmc hello
02:12 Cprossu we're working on specs for our application
02:13 Cprossu https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GRze_g_5lN7647_HrJjKMekWNwVucmC9n8Xgyib6wUQ/edit?hl=en_US&authkey=CMup7cQL
02:13 Cprossu ^ @ tggCaptainBoden
02:13 Cprossu and tggmc
02:14 Cprossu sweet
02:14 Cprossu got a bnc you hate too?
02:14 Cprossu just curious lol
02:14 Cprossu hehehe
02:14 tonsofpcs hi tggmc!
02:14 Cprossu it should be
02:15 tonsofpcs tggmc: I found some RG6 with those canare connectors on it in the studio today, looked nice
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02:15 Cprossu nice!
02:15 KB3NZQ what the hell is that
02:15 Cprossu a network card that I hate.
02:15 KB3NZQ o ok
02:15 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Craig Bailey on Steam distillation of Catnip to produce Nepetalactone
02:15 tonsofpcs tggmc: just note that they won't work with the 'standard' BNC twister tool.
02:15 Cprossu yeah you have your work cut out
02:16 tonsofpcs no, not twist-on
02:16 Cprossu think you can get the weathercam on the switcher before you leave though?
02:16 tonsofpcs there's cool little tools (like screwdrivers) that you use to put the BNCs into tight spaces
02:16 tonsofpcs the canare connector won't work with it
02:16 Cprossu cool
02:16 tonsofpcs yea, i got that, the stream is a bit laggy ;)
02:17 tonsofpcs the F-connector twisty tools are nice, they have a bare F-female on the back to help you hold connectors while crimping
02:17 Cprossu I'm going to have to check on the stream thing
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02:17 Cprossu this ads thing in the middle of speaking is annoying
02:17 tonsofpcs I have some patch bays that are too tight for the bnc twisty tool, you need to manually put the BNC on (push it on, then put hand on top and pull sideways _hard_ to click it into place
02:18 tonsofpcs cya tggmc (I guess this means no Chyron for mme to play with in the morning and I should get a haircut instead)
02:19 speed-mobile So a just gives one immage
02:19 speed-mobile And b and c contiues to update the immage?
02:19 Cprossu speed-mobile : ??????????
02:19 speed-mobile Where on the html interface will the immage be?
02:19 speed-mobile Controll mothods
02:19 Cprossu this is a spec list, speed-mobile
02:20 tonsofpcs speed-mobile: 'b' and 'c' _do not_ continously update the image
02:20 Cprossu html interface is second part
02:20 tonsofpcs that's just a waste of resources
02:20 Cprossu ok cool what do we have that patched into ? checks
02:20 tonsofpcs 'b' and 'c' do have noted code for updating the 'highlighted' item in the interface
02:20 CaptainBoden What is Steve doing?
02:20 CaptainBoden What did you accomplish tonight?
02:21 CaptainBoden oh wow, cool
02:21 CaptainBoden so, we have like 8 new working cameras?
02:21 CaptainBoden Lenses on all?
02:21 CaptainBoden lmfao
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02:21 CaptainBoden mount them, set them on the shelf sideways
02:21 CaptainBoden use 2 shelves ;)
02:22 CaptainBoden no, SIDEWAYS
02:22 CaptainBoden like, long axis
02:22 CaptainBoden not for long ;)
02:22 CaptainBoden We'll get them deployed fast
02:22 CaptainBoden Mounts we can make, a lot of them will be staticly mouted
02:22 CaptainBoden good plan
02:22 CaptainBoden k
02:23 CaptainBoden how hard to make PSU's for them all?
02:23 Seroster Wb captain.
02:23 CaptainBoden So, $20 or so maybe in total? lol
02:24 Seroster I sent the guy with the Kv meter the info@thegeekgroup.org adress
02:24 CaptainBoden Post a link and I'll bet one of the members in here would send you a dozen.
02:24 Cprossu oh CaptainBoden, check your pm, add what your wishlist is on the googledocs link for the interface we'll be building. I've updated the camera table to reflect what we are running
02:24 Seroster He wants something like 10 bucks plus shipping for it
02:24 CaptainBoden If not, I'm sure we can cover it
02:24 Cprossu log on tonight and we'll make you an account and a permalink to the switching computer
02:25 tonsofpcs ya
02:25 CaptainBoden Mouser perhaps?
02:25 Obtuse_lappy hello. back from the lab
02:25 tonsofpcs I grab them at the local electronics store when I need them
02:25 BotSteve Obtuse_lappy: I have the following messages for you:
02:25 BotSteve At 22 Jun 17:10Z, Druidic_Rifleman asked me to Tell Obtuse_lappy that i will be starting to Fool around with the design of Turret mounting plate Tonight and if he is at the lab I need to know the messurements
02:25 KB3NZQ MCM
02:25 tonsofpcs are you looking for power usage?
02:25 tonsofpcs you can buy 4pin M - 4pin F cables....
02:25 KB3NZQ mcmelectronics
02:25 Obtuse_lappy little too late for that now
02:25 Cprossu are you going to leave it on the MC switcher, tggmc
02:25 tonsofpcs yup, i've got one rigged here like that :)
02:26 tonsofpcs just the ends, check Newark/MCM
02:26 Cprossu because output right now is the manual switcher I think
02:26 CaptainBoden someone show him the video ;) Steve made a video on hacking computer PSU's for use as cameras supplies.
02:26 tonsofpcs if you want the cable, I'd get them from markertek or similar folks
02:26 Druidic_Rifleman LOL
02:26 tonsofpcs honestly, i'd build a PSU with a few females on it, then use cables to run to cameras
02:26 CaptainBoden We need a fast dozen of those connectors, we have a whole fleet of cameras to get deployed.
02:26 Druidic_Rifleman it's ok I don't know if i have enough hard ddrive space for what Kiwifrog mentioned
02:26 Cprossu yeah we are NOT on the MC switcher right now, tggmc
02:26 tonsofpcs idk if markertek sells the connectors, you can check just as easily as i can
02:27 speed-mobile In the html. The buttions would be those forum input buttions? (w/e there called) how do you make it anny desired picture?
02:27 KB3NZQ http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/NEUTRIK-NC4MX-/NC4MX
02:27 tonsofpcs speed-mobile: <input><img /></input>
02:27 tonsofpcs tggmc: please repeat in 30 seconds.....
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02:27 tonsofpcs (ok, repeat now)
02:27 Druidic_Rifleman missing signal?
02:28 KB3NZQ ok one sec
02:28 tonsofpcs http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/NEUTRIK-NC4FX-/NC4FX
02:28 KB3NZQ http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/NEUTRIK-NC4FX-/NC4FX
02:28 tonsofpcs neutrik connectors are quite nice :)
02:28 CaptainBoden we need a dozen in total, if anyone wants to donate a couple it would be very nice.
02:28 tonsofpcs I have... you don't want to know :-p
02:28 KB3NZQ 4.03 each
02:29 tonsofpcs I get *dirt cheap* XLR4pins at the local electronics shop
02:29 tonsofpcs note: they melt with a soldering iron held too close for too long.
02:29 Cprossu I've updated the input description to match what we are running ATM, CaptainBoden
02:29 CaptainBoden k
02:29 KB3NZQ do you want them in right angle in possable
02:29 CaptainBoden RA ones could be handy on a couple cameras
02:30 ynos_java I wonder if Bursma on 28th buchannan would have them, they have lots of connectors in stock..
02:30 CaptainBoden Never heard of them
02:30 ynos_java is now known as ynos_web
02:30 ynos_web http://www.bursma.com/home
02:30 KB3NZQ i only have $10 in my account will not happen for a wile if i will do it
02:31 CaptainBoden Steve, if nobody donates them tonight, take $20 and order them, I'll cover it.
02:31 tonsofpcs g'nite egrsteve tggmc
02:31 CaptainBoden Thank you Steve :) Gnite sir.
02:32 KB3NZQ mcm has volume pricing if i get 10 or more i get them for 3.91 each
02:32 Cprossu night, thanks for all the fish, tggmc
02:32 ynos_web Headded out myself, gnite guys
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02:33 tonsofpcs note: MCM/Newark (same folks) will quote you pricing over the phone.  It may not match the website.
02:33 LeadHead Cprossu, you a Douglas Adams fan?
02:33 CaptainBoden With Steve's new cameras, we may have enough to hit 15 now :)
02:33 Cprossu yeah?
02:33 tonsofpcs oh, wait
02:33 CaptainBoden That would fill the MC1 console.
02:33 Obtuse_lappy who isn't a fan of Douglas Adams?
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02:33 tonsofpcs steve - you can get Neutrik XLRs with ferrite chokes in-line!
02:33 Cprossu CaptainBoden: time to go after that one station for it's venus.
02:33 CaptainBoden I'm not.
02:34 Obtuse_lappy no?
02:34 CaptainBoden I'm more of a Bukowski guy
02:34 Obtuse_lappy oo, never heard of
02:34 CaptainBoden Steve, 5 new camras or 8?
02:34 tonsofpcs like, there's a bead at the base of each pin
02:34 speed-mobile What? Douglas?
02:34 KB3NZQ digikey has your plugs for 2.51 each
02:34 Cprossu tggmc any of them SDI? xD
02:34 * Obtuse_lappy wikipedias Bukowski
02:34 tonsofpcs KB3NZQ: are they neutriks?
02:34 CaptainBoden so 6 new places to deploy cameras....:)
02:34 KB3NZQ have to order 10 at least cause it is a non stock item
02:35 LeadHead Different strokes for different folks.
02:35 tonsofpcs my HDSDI cameras have composite, HDSDI, SDI, and triax on em...
02:35 KB3NZQ thay are switchcraft at digikey
02:35 CaptainBoden Need to get a couple looking outside, cripple lot (looking out from HVL).
02:35 CaptainBoden Maybe back lot from one of the vents or something.
02:35 tonsofpcs switchcraft would be cheaper elsewhere too...
02:35 tonsofpcs A4Fs
02:35 CaptainBoden One dedicated machine shop, one dedicated VSL.
02:36 CaptainBoden That's doable.
02:36 CaptainBoden Totally
02:36 tonsofpcs and ferrite toroids for HVL
02:36 CaptainBoden I like the idea of static cameras, bolted to plates, etc. Mission specific.
02:36 tonsofpcs beads are a PITA for lines like that
02:36 CaptainBoden Given that we have the ability to get LOTS of high quality cameras, this works well.
02:37 Cprossu we might want to build the weathercam rs232 control into the pc we use for web based switching as well.
02:37 tonsofpcs I haven't gotten to my remote site yet.... when I get there, i'll see if i have toroids
02:37 LeadHead Spark-Gap camera with a faraday cage and a dark + UV filter put over the lens?
02:37 tonsofpcs hopefully monday or tuesday i can get there
02:37 Cprossu CaptainBoden has anyone looked into what the rs232 control needs?
02:37 Cprossu because it's got a modem in it right?
02:37 CaptainBoden we have a second weathercam we need to get working as well.
02:38 CaptainBoden k
02:38 Cprossu if it's db25 it's serial
02:38 CaptainBoden OH WOW
02:38 CaptainBoden wtf? It fixed itself?
02:38 speed-mobile Dougy: Would you like to help? Were designing software
02:38 CaptainBoden wel, shit
02:38 CaptainBoden That's cool
02:38 Dougy yo
02:38 CaptainBoden yeah
02:38 Dougy speed-mobile: did ytou tab me by accident
02:38 speed-mobile No
02:38 tonsofpcs your camera has a 'wipe' button that doesn't just make a transition happen? :D
02:38 CaptainBoden We need about 3 more weathercams with PTZ
02:39 Dougy oh, speed-mobile.. doug?
02:39 LeadHead Dougy....
02:39 Cprossu hahahaah @ tonsofpcs
02:39 tonsofpcs that's awesome
02:39 LeadHead Oh the horrible song that just popped in my head.
02:39 speed-mobile Wait a second....im SpeedrunnerG55
02:39 Dougy ohhh
02:40 Obtuse_lappy CaptainBoden, which Bukowski book would you recommend first?
02:40 CaptainBoden Factotum
02:40 speed-mobile Cprossu: Link?
02:40 speed-mobile For Dougy
02:40 Cprossu https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GRze_g_5lN7647_HrJjKMekWNwVucmC9n8Xgyib6wUQ/edit?hl=en_US&amp;authkey=CMup7cQL
02:40 Obtuse_lappy cool. i'll add that to my list
02:40 CaptainBoden for?
02:40 LeadHead This is the only link Dougy needs.
02:40 LeadHead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY9uZWCh4go
02:40 CaptainBoden What exactly does a matrix do?
02:41 CaptainBoden kinda like an assignable patchbay?
02:41 Cprossu does he know what we are doing, speed-mobile?
02:41 CaptainBoden oh that's cool
02:41 tonsofpcs wait, you have a 20x10 matrix router?
02:41 CaptainBoden can you run singles to multiple outputs?
02:41 tonsofpcs are those RS422/232 controllable?
02:41 CaptainBoden like 1 in to 3-4-5 out?
02:41 Cprossu what model was that again?
02:41 tggmc GVG 20 ten
02:41 Cprossu GVG 20 Ten
02:41 tonsofpcs i've never had a crosspoint router that couldn't
02:42 speed-mobile Weredesigning a switcher for a lve video feed
02:42 CaptainBoden Those could be handy
02:42 speed-mobile To work on remote clients
02:42 tonsofpcs even the GE crosspoint i found buried in the closet back at school...
02:42 CaptainBoden especially once we have more cameras than inputs
02:42 tonsofpcs oh, i know what those are
02:42 tonsofpcs they're TenX system.
02:42 Cprossu *switches cams
02:42 tonsofpcs I have two of the 10x1s
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02:43 tonsofpcs note: http://circlelimitdigital.blogspot.com/2010/09/most-important-blank-boxes-from-gvg.html :serial is doable
02:44 tonsofpcs so with two of these, you can make all of the inputs to the MC switcher routable and make your output 'to air' routable.
02:44 tonsofpcs so why are we trying to hack at the MC switcher for remote control when you can just remote control a router....
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02:45 speed-mobile Dougy: We are designing client software for a switcher. The saturn master controll. With a html interface
02:45 speed-mobile Did i say that right Cprossu
02:45 Cprossu because buttons are awesome, tonsofpcs
02:45 tonsofpcs Cprossu: but you can make 'buttons' for the router.
02:45 Cprossu how would we do effects though?
02:46 tonsofpcs the MC switcher doesn't do 'effects' anyway... just fades.
02:46 Cprossu lol
02:46 tonsofpcs you can even use a spare router output to periodically take a capture image of every available input, too
02:46 speed-mobile I was wondering what hise fades were
02:46 Cprossu the 1600ll has effects
02:46 tonsofpcs Cprossu: yes, it does.  It also requires physically pulling the T-bar
02:47 Cprossu we could get jeff to do that, tonsofpcs
02:47 Cprossu xD
02:47 tonsofpcs heh
02:47 KB3NZQ lol
02:47 Cprossu wait wait what does it say?
02:47 tonsofpcs it is.
02:47 tonsofpcs GRR @ AD
02:47 LeadHead Accidentally add an extra zero to the "move" command force on Jeff
02:47 Cprossu does it have a model?
02:47 tonsofpcs someone remind me to never pay for showtime.
02:48 LeadHead and you'll be ripping the whole unit out of the console
02:48 tggmc 006900-02
02:48 tonsofpcs 006900-02
02:48 Cprossu GVG 006900-02
02:48 Cprossu hrmmm
02:48 tonsofpcs yay! do I get a cookie? :)
02:48 Toastdude .remind tonsofpcs never to pay for showtome
02:48 Cprossu yeah that didn't google
02:48 Cprossu hrmmm
02:48 Toastdude .cookie tonsofpcs
02:48 BotSteve Here you go, tonsofpcs, I baked you a kleicha cookie!
02:48 tonsofpcs oh, it's the older one
02:49 Cprossu do you know a model for it?
02:49 tonsofpcs i have newer ones of the 10x10 2-row panels
02:49 Cprossu we can figure that one out tggmc if we can figure out the model
02:49 Cprossu fuck commercial
02:49 tonsofpcs Cprossu: it's the same line as the TenX or TenXL matrix routers
02:49 Cprossu I don't want to have sex right here, the big C commerical
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02:49 tggmc 096902-00a
02:49 Cprossu 096902-00a
02:49 tggmc 610
02:50 Cprossu ^serial number
02:50 Toastdude .tell tonsofpcs to never pay for showtime
02:50 BotSteve Sorry, .tell is not yet implemented.  Use BotSteve: tell
02:50 speed-mobile Is the html interface written alreaddy?
02:50 tonsofpcs speed-mobile: no.
02:51 Cprossu GRASS VALLEY / XYCP
02:51 Toastdude BotSteve: Tell tonsofpcs to never pay for showtime
02:51 BotSteve Toastdude: I'll pass that on when tonsofpcs is around.
02:51 Cprossu XY Control Panel for GV 20-TEN or TEN-20 Router
02:51 tonsofpcs Cprossu: that sounds right
02:51 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I have the following messages for you:
02:51 BotSteve At 02:51Z, Toastdude asked me to Tell tonsofpcs to never pay for showtime
02:51 tonsofpcs you only need to pass ONE through.
02:51 tonsofpcs four if yu want to be fancy
02:51 Cprossu http://www.broadcaststore.com/dsp_image.cfm?strFileType=ModelLarge&amp;strFileName=9366.jpg
02:52 speed-mobile And the input buttions are going to a file. Which will be regularly checked for opdated to be sent?
02:52 tonsofpcs and really, you have no need to go that fancy
02:52 tonsofpcs i'd pass 2 or 3 through
02:52 tonsofpcs it's a TenXL remote, steve
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02:52 tonsofpcs right.
02:52 tonsofpcs take 8 off one, 8 off the other
02:52 LeadHead Do you guys need to worry about attenuation through so many switches and routers?
02:52 Cprossu I have to reboot the mc to make sure the config took
02:53 tonsofpcs then use 2 from one to feed #2, then feed the outputs of MC into both, use #2 to feed the PC
02:53 LeadHead Interesting
02:53 Cprossu we might lose video for a sec
02:53 Cprossu so hang on
02:54 Cprossu nah
02:54 tonsofpcs handling noise :(
02:54 * tonsofpcs sends steve a RE-20
02:54 Cprossu k we're up
02:54 LeadHead lol
02:54 LeadHead funny
02:54 LeadHead defaulted to weather cam
02:54 Cprossu synching time
02:54 Cprossu did it work?
02:54 tonsofpcs renamed the input?
02:55 Cprossu pity
02:55 tonsofpcs did it default to weather cam or did it 'take' on boot?  (My switchers have default inputs but when remote goes out and comes back, they 'take')
02:55 Cprossu no I didn't
02:55 Cprossu the utc is on the pc
02:55 tonsofpcs Wed Jun 22 22:55:40 EDT 2011
02:55 Cprossu look
02:55 tonsofpcs 025540
02:55 tonsofpcs adjust seconds as needed
02:55 livefiretj is the weather cam a live feed now?
02:56 tonsofpcs 025600
02:56 tonsofpcs etc.
02:56 tonsofpcs you need to put together a Deal-extreme order
02:56 tonsofpcs gett some dirt cheap USB GPS chips
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02:57 tonsofpcs also, get a bunch of those microfibre cloths they sell
02:57 speed-mobile Where is the file itself?
02:57 Cprossu there you go tggmc look at lower right
02:57 Cprossu all is good
02:57 speed-mobile If i may ask
02:57 Cprossu oooh
02:57 Cprossu try the fade
02:57 tonsofpcs seriously, you interrupt the 'show' with Ads _and_ you have banners pop on every minute for 20 seconds?
02:57 Cprossu remember we set that?
02:58 Cprossu and thus it did
02:58 LeadHead Can you program different wipes into this thing?
02:58 SpeedrunnerG55 .stream
02:58 tonsofpcs LeadHead: it can do \/, X, T, \|, and |/
02:58 BotSteve The Geek Group Live Web Stream can be found at: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-geek-group-behind-the-scenes-live-feed
02:58 tonsofpcs it's a master control switcher
02:59 tonsofpcs steve - can it do dips to white too?
02:59 tonsofpcs (/\ as it were)
02:59 tonsofpcs it would be symboled like /\ instead of \/
02:59 tonsofpcs yea, probably not then
02:59 Cprossu theres a custom transition thing in there
02:59 tonsofpcs you don't have cut?
02:59 Cprossu and LOTS of keying shit
02:59 LeadHead It would be awesome if Metallica started playing whenever you did a Fade to Black.
03:00 tonsofpcs yea, so the standards:  \/, X, T, \|, and |/
03:00 tonsofpcs interesting
03:00 LeadHead What's a T transistion?
03:00 tonsofpcs oh, you also have true fade-out/return buttons
03:00 tonsofpcs LeadHead: cut.
03:00 LeadHead oh
03:00 Cprossu good deal
03:00 tonsofpcs the current video goes out and the next video comes in at the same point
03:01 tonsofpcs usually there's a top-bar across all of those, showing video levels
03:01 tonsofpcs that's basically what the icons are
03:01 Cprossu he has lights
03:01 tonsofpcs but i can't put top-bars easily in IRC
03:01 Cprossu that say if they are in sync
03:01 Cprossu somewhere
03:01 Cprossu tggmc right?
03:01 Cprossu good
03:02 Cprossu then what I read in the manual was true
03:02 Cprossu there's 2 sets of NS lights
03:02 KB3NZQ that console is so much nicer than the little viddo (can't remember spelling) mixer at my church
03:02 Cprossu one is for analog
03:02 LeadHead Does it go ape shit if you try to change between synced and unsynced sources?
03:02 tonsofpcs wait, this thing has keyers?
03:02 Cprossu one is for sdi
03:02 tonsofpcs Cprossu: can you push an image into one of the keyers, a TGG bug maybe?
03:02 Cprossu *again 2 sets of ns lights
03:02 Cprossu one is for digital the other analog
03:02 tonsofpcs no you don't
03:03 tonsofpcs your master control switcher has a keyer, no?
03:03 tonsofpcs if it has a keyer, it has a key store usually
03:03 Cprossu I think it does
03:03 tonsofpcs like, you push an image in through the config and it holds just those.
03:03 Cprossu I saw it somewhere
03:03 Cprossu so many documents
03:03 Cprossu and so many flawsss
03:03 Cprossu lol
03:03 tonsofpcs mine has 'keyer' inputs too.  There's nothing attached.  It's useless in a modern master control enviornment
03:04 tonsofpcs well, you can change settings on the buttons i'm sure..
03:04 LeadHead So what exactly is a key?
03:04 tonsofpcs I can make my 'keyer' buttons actually perform macros on the router, etc.
03:04 tonsofpcs g'nite steve
03:04 Cprossu later dude
03:04 Cprossu I'll give CaptainBoden the stuff he needs to login
03:04 LeadHead Cya, Bro.
03:04 tonsofpcs LeadHead: didn't i go through that for you? or was that for someone else *greps logs*
03:04 Cprossu once I get my food
03:04 Obtuse_lappy night steve
03:04 LeadHead Wasn't I.
03:05 Cprossu later steve thanks!
03:05 tonsofpcs 18:06 < tonsofpcs> MadManMarkAu1: ok, so you have three video sources.  One is  a picture that you want to mostly see, one is
03:05 tonsofpcs a picture that you want to see some of, one is a picture (mostly bblack or white) that says how much of the second picture you want to see
03:05 tonsofpcs 18:06 < tonsofpcs> they get fed in and the system puts the second image over the first based upon the 'key' given by the third
03:05 tonsofpcs 18:06 < tonsofpcs> the device that does this is a 'keyer'
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03:05 Bat-Mobile howdy all
03:05 tonsofpcs a 'chroma key' uses the chromanance signal of the second video as the 'key' and doesn't have a third
03:05 speed-mobile Bat-Mobile: !!
03:05 speed-mobile Hi Bat-Mobile
03:06 LeadHead So you could in theory
03:06 LeadHead make the key-image
03:06 tonsofpcs hi Bat-Mobile
03:06 Bat-Mobile hey speed and tonsofpcs
03:06 LeadHead somethign other than just solid white/black
03:06 tonsofpcs LeadHead: yes.
03:06 tonsofpcs LeadHead: think the CBS bug that's always up but just makes a 'depression'
03:06 Cprossu so anyone got any questions for me while I eat?
03:06 tonsofpcs that's "grey" key with black video iirc
03:06 tonsofpcs Cprossu: is it yummy?
03:06 Cprossu yes
03:07 KB3NZQ batsteve you should change the bot so that you can just do .tell
03:07 Cprossu click click click bang
03:07 Bat-Mobile KB3NZQ: ok why?
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03:07 LeadHead Cprossu, do chickens have large talons?
03:07 tonsofpcs (i mean, it's probably made at full blast these days then set to be some % transparent, but the same basic idea still applies)
03:08 tonsofpcs grr @ showtime ads... closing the stream
03:08 KB3NZQ easier to remember and less to type
03:08 KB3NZQ are the 1st 2 that come to my mind
03:08 tonsofpcs KB3NZQ: that also means that people who don't know what they're doing can get the bot that they don't know about to do things....
03:08 KB3NZQ o ok
03:09 tonsofpcs obfuscation promotes learning :)
03:09 KB3NZQ true
03:09 Obtuse_lappy lol. overdoes on marijuana
03:09 Obtuse_lappy overdoes
03:09 Obtuse_lappy does
03:09 Bat-Mobile which is part of the reason that there's no help files...you want to know how it works?  read the code!!!
03:09 Obtuse_lappy dose
03:09 LeadHead Dose
03:09 Bat-Mobile (lies, I keep wishing I had an afternoon to dedicate to making a nice help file)
03:09 KB3NZQ well it is 11:10 so time to tell my laptop to init 0
03:09 Obtuse_lappy my brain wouldn't let me type the write keys
03:10 LeadHead right
03:10 Obtuse_lappy I haven't thought of init 0 for a long time
03:10 tonsofpcs s/read the code/harrass the one who wrote the code and no comments/
03:10 Obtuse_lappy not since I used knoppix in 2003
03:10 Bat-Mobile tonsofpcs: same thing, basically
03:10 Bat-Mobile :P
03:12 tonsofpcs Obtuse_lappy: I haven't thought of LOAD 8,"*",1 for a long time.
03:12 tonsofpcs Not since I dumped my C=64 (on the table to take a picture) earlier this week.
03:12 tonsofpcs :D
03:13 Cprossu lol I think I used to just use LOAD "*",8,1
03:13 tonsofpcs err, right, that one
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03:14 Cprossu what was the command for tape?
03:14 tonsofpcs filename then 8 then 1 if you wanted it to run immediately
03:14 Cprossu ,6,1
03:14 tonsofpcs tape was 4 iirc
03:14 Cprossu I can't remember
03:14 tonsofpcs idk, want me to hook the tape drive up?
03:14 Cprossu god no
03:14 tonsofpcs heh
03:14 Cprossu it's a piece of junk
03:15 LeadHead http://www.allpar.com/photos/plants/sterling-heights/spiderglass.jpg
03:15 tonsofpcs Cprossu: not as much as FCPX from what I see... (who wants to meet me at an apple store in Syracuse, NY on Sunday to tear it apart?)
03:15 LeadHead I didn't know they could wear such loose clothing
03:15 LeadHead in automobile assembly plants
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03:15 tonsofpcs LeadHead: flame-retardant blanket?
03:15 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 3 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Slurpy on Steam distillation of Catnip to produce Nepetalactone.....jaaz95 on First light....for real this time......DruidicRifleman on Steam distillation of Catnip to produce Nepetalactone
03:15 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by TheGeekGroup.  New videos:
03:15 BotSteve Assembling A Wheatstone TV 600 Mixer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QbdcagwZuU
03:15 LeadHead Looks like a dress to me
03:16 Cprossu wow
03:16 Cprossu that's done now?
03:16 Cprossu (can't wait
03:16 Cprossu YAY
03:16 tonsofpcs *watches*
03:17 tonsofpcs "Giant consoles  are just awesome" :D
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03:20 Cprossu THAT explains the blue tape!
03:21 tonsofpcs hehh
03:21 tonsofpcs whoa, my D-9 has the same manual cover basically
03:21 Toastdude Lol "It's the great big nipple of science"
03:24 Toastdude Did I kill the chat?
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03:25 Cprossu no Toastdude we're all watching the video duh
03:25 Toastdude Lol
03:25 Cprossu and some of the people here don't have multiple monitors I guess
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03:26 tonsofpcs I do but i'm not in hugevision room.
03:27 tonsofpcs i'm wondering what the card that doesn't plug into anything (25?) is
03:27 tonsofpcs tone gen maybe?
03:27 Cprossu it's wired on the audio bus
03:27 Cprossu through a dsub
03:27 Cprossu so it could be anything
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03:30 tonsofpcs oo, phase switches
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03:33 tonsofpcs 13 was clearly added later on
03:34 tonsofpcs <3 vegas mode on the Ross switchers (they turn into slot machines)
03:35 * tonsofpcs wonders if people called it chicago mode when NAB was in chicago...
03:35 livefiretj can I have a link to the video
03:36 tonsofpcs card removal tool == PCI/ISA card slot cover :)
03:36 tonsofpcs 23:15:51 <+BotSteve> Assembling A Wheatstone TV 600 Mixer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QbdcagwZuU
03:36 Cprossu tonsofpcs: you have no clue how many times I've used that trick
03:36 livefiretj * waits for a link*
03:36 Cprossu it DOES NOT work for cabletron though
03:36 tonsofpcs livefiretj: ^
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03:37 livefiretj THX
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03:38 Cprossu very nice engineering
03:38 Cprossu love it.
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03:39 tonsofpcs yay 'real components'
03:39 livefiretj lol speed laptop
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03:40 egrsteve good afterevening
03:40 BotSteve egrsteve: I have the following messages for you:
03:40 BotSteve At 22 Jun 05:08Z, tonsofpcs asked me to tell egrsteve to check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5JTeSv5kCo
03:40 BotSteve At 22 Jun 05:23Z, Cprossu asked me to tell egrsteve <shadowmaster> Cprossu: someone joined an auto K-line channel while on webchat, apparently <- that's what happened
03:40 Cprossu welcome home egrsteve
03:41 Cprossu ^ welcome back from the dead as well
03:41 egrsteve thanks
03:41 Cprossu the wheatstone video just went live too
03:41 egrsteve again thanks
03:41 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QbdcagwZuU
03:41 Cprossu good stuff.
03:41 livefiretj do we have a live feed off the weather cam
03:42 Cprossu yep and we can have a live feed wherever we want too, livefiretj
03:42 livefiretj could I have the link
03:42 Cprossu if you want to see master control, we can make that happen >zing
03:42 Cprossu oh
03:42 Cprossu http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-geek-group-behind-the-scenes-live-feed
03:42 livefiretj oh thx
03:42 Cprossu I'll wait for you to get past the ad
03:42 Cprossu lol
03:43 LeadHead adblock guys
03:43 LeadHead come on
03:43 livefiretj I have ad blocker
03:43 egrsteve tonsofpcs, that is a nice termination system
03:43 livefiretj I was going to be the director of the IT area with rick
03:44 Cprossu what the heck, egrsteve
03:44 egrsteve ?
03:44 Cprossu not switching is it back on manual?
03:44 egrsteve don't think so
03:44 Cprossu hrmm mc says it switched
03:45 egrsteve did I not leave it on weather via MC
03:45 Cprossu I did
03:45 livefiretj how did we get the scanner radio on this feed?
03:45 Cprossu hrmmm
03:45 egrsteve direct box and a scanner
03:45 livefiretj ah ok make sense
03:45 Cprossu who was last out of the lab?
03:45 egrsteve me
03:45 livefiretj just was confused for a min
03:45 Cprossu weird
03:45 egrsteve why
03:46 Cprossu ooooh
03:46 Cprossu I get it now
03:46 LeadHead Cprossu, check this out
03:46 LeadHead http://www.ect.coop/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Ram-PHEV-1.jpg
03:46 LeadHead I was wondering when someone was finally going to do this
03:46 * Cprossu will give chris perm control another night
03:46 LeadHead built by chrysler for a small test fleet
03:46 LeadHead Plug-in-hybrid-ram pickup
03:47 Cprossu too bad they scap most of their cool test fleets
03:47 LeadHead They actually did something that makes sense with these
03:47 LeadHead They put a 6.6kw inverter system
03:47 LeadHead on it
03:47 Cprossu not bad
03:47 LeadHead so you have a 240v 30 amp outlet and a pair of 120v 20 amp outlets
03:47 LeadHead in the bed
03:47 Cprossu but come on the turbine car made sense!
03:47 egrsteve turbine electric hybrid imagine that
03:48 LeadHead To me, outlets in a hybrid pickup truck just make so much sense
03:48 LeadHead need to run a welder for a while? Start the engine up and let it charge
03:48 LeadHead Actually egrsteve, turbine electric hybrid
03:48 LeadHead is what would be the ideal application for a turbine engine
03:48 Cprossu Ever hear of the premier power welder, LeadHead?
03:48 egrsteve thats what I ment
03:49 LeadHead no, i have not Cprossu
03:49 Cprossu works really well.
03:50 Cprossu I was a skeptic but it makes damn nice clean welds,
03:50 LeadHead Is that the
03:50 LeadHead three car batteries
03:50 LeadHead in series
03:50 Cprossu no
03:50 LeadHead with a pair of jumper cables
03:50 Cprossu no
03:51 Cprossu one of my buds got one for his jeep
03:51 Cprossu and used it as an excuse to learn how to weld and
03:51 Cprossu at the same time not have to carry all the crap during long trail runs with his group
03:52 livefiretj hope they implement this idea for production
03:52 LeadHead kubj/.
03:52 LeadHead *link?
03:52 livefiretj wouldnt mind driving a v8 hemi truck and getting 38mpg in town
03:52 Cprossu http://www.premierpowerwelder.com/
03:53 Cprossu ^ they have a specially wound alternator
03:53 Cprossu 400hz high frew.
03:54 Cprossu *freq
03:54 LeadHead well
03:54 Cprossu well I'll bbl
03:54 LeadHead higher if you rev the engine
03:54 LeadHead 400Hz must make a funny noise
03:54 LeadHead while welding
03:54 Cprossu yeah PEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
03:54 LeadHead hey!
03:54 Cprossu but it's so clean
03:54 LeadHead with my throttle knob
03:54 LeadHead I could turn the engine up while welding
03:54 LeadHead :D
03:54 Cprossu but what I can tell you is that system kicks ass
03:54 Cprossu and is as advertised
03:54 LeadHead hm.
03:55 LeadHead That is very neat.
03:55 Cprossu they keep the higher voltage seperated from the 12v system too
03:55 Cprossu just don't run your battery dead lol
03:55 LeadHead well if you're running the engine
03:55 LeadHead that shouldn't happen
03:56 Cprossu remember it replaces the alternator
03:56 Cprossu so when it's running 40V you don't want to nuke your battery
03:56 LeadHead I'd just get a truck that had provisions for dual alternators
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03:56 LeadHead from the factory
03:56 LeadHead or do some ghettofab
03:57 Cprossu still I love that system it worked very well
03:57 Cprossu and attached to a jeep
03:57 Cprossu you can actually be out in the middle of bumfuckville and weld someones frame back together
03:57 Cprossu and do it well enough it's a perm fix.
03:57 LeadHead Hey
03:57 LeadHead I live there
03:57 Cprossu you still know what I mean
03:58 LeadHead Eastjabumfuck to be exact.
03:58 Cprossu it kicks tail
03:58 Cprossu k I g2g
03:58 LeadHead peace bro
03:58 LeadHead I'll defintely look into that
03:58 LeadHead if i ever get some spare cash
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04:13 speedrunnerG55 Hi
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04:30 speed-mobile I think im here to stay this time
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04:51 SpeedrunnerG55 hi
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04:52 SpeedrunnerG55 :)
04:53 SpeedrunnerG55 whats up everyone?
04:54 Cprossu not too much
04:54 Cprossu I'm debating what to add to the jupiter config file
04:55 Cprossu and I am going to see how our software specs look
04:55 Cprossu CaptainBoden : did you ever get to add any notes to how you want the html+web API to look?
04:58 Cprossu who deleted my control mech?
04:58 SpeedrunnerG55 not me
04:58 Cprossu ahh there it is
05:05 SpeedrunnerG55 what language will the controll program be in?
05:06 Cprossu anything would be better than what it's written in so I don't care
05:06 Cprossu if it could be done with batch files I'd even be fine with it
05:06 SpeedrunnerG55 o_o
05:06 Cprossu we can settle on a unified language if we get something working
05:06 SpeedrunnerG55 ah ok
05:07 Cprossu although it doesn't hurt to have a plan, a fixed programming language could limit our options
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05:09 * SpeedrunnerG55 finds html edditor in software center
05:09 SpeedrunnerG55 wouldnt word pad work fine?
05:10 Cprossu hell notepad would be fine
05:10 Cprossu but be a man and use vim =P
05:10 LeadHead vim?
05:10 Cprossu yes.
05:10 LeadHead What are you insane?
05:10 Cprossu no.
05:11 Cprossu or you could use nano, pussy =P
05:11 LeadHead nano
05:11 LeadHead screw that!
05:11 LeadHead That's emergencies only!
05:11 LeadHead Like when I completely fry xorg.conf!
05:11 Cprossu are you serious?
05:11 * Cprossu *head desk*
05:11 LeadHead haha
05:12 SpeedrunnerG55 what about notpad2?
05:12 LeadHead I broke xorg.conf too many times to even remember
05:12 LeadHead I broke it so good once, that it was completely beyond my capabilities to recover
05:12 LeadHead had to reinstall
05:12 LeadHead :(
05:12 SpeedrunnerG55 im in ubuntu. so i think word pad would be perfect
05:12 LeadHead well that wasn't xorg.conf
05:12 LeadHead I physically broke xorg trying to get ATI drivers to install
05:13 exor674 ow
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05:19 Cprossu hey Python are you familiar with our latest project?
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05:25 SpeedrunnerG55 Cprossu, what about bluefish?
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05:39 Cprossu SpeedrunnerG55 Check the document
05:40 Cprossu make sure I didn't just bork everything
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05:51 LeadHead wow
05:51 LeadHead that's somewhat shocking
05:53 SpeedrunnerG55 ...i cant Cprossu
05:53 SpeedrunnerG55 this laptop desent have the resources to open a web browser to do that
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05:56 Cprossu ??
05:56 Cprossu LeadHead?
05:57 SpeedrunnerG55 i wonder if i can find a linux paint. to make small bit maps
05:59 Cprossu oh come on SpeedrunnerG55
05:59 Cprossu you have bigger issues than I have when I run 486's
05:59 Cprossu surely you can open a google doc o_o
06:00 Cprossu https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GRze_g_5lN7647_HrJjKMekWNwVucmC9n8Xgyib6wUQ/edit?hl=en_US&amp;authkey=CMup7cQL
06:00 LeadHead oh
06:00 LeadHead I compared my graduating class
06:00 LeadHead size
06:00 LeadHead with my 8th grade class size
06:01 LeadHead We actually lost 61 people
06:01 LeadHead which is like 25% of my graduating class
06:05 SpeedrunnerG55 the os usses like 60-70 % of the ram
06:06 Cprossu then fix it?
06:06 SpeedrunnerG55 oh sweet, it just speed up a little
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06:10 SpeedrunnerG55 atempts to open link
06:10 * SpeedrunnerG55 ^
06:11 * SpeedrunnerG55 waits for browser to start
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06:24 Speed_Laptop imah try this again
06:24 * Speed_Laptop clicks link
06:25 * Speed_Laptop loads a lot faster
06:31 Cprossu that part goes in interface
06:32 Cprossu Speed_Laptop still there?
06:32 Cprossu that part goes under interface.
06:32 Cprossu underneath
06:32 Cprossu 2nd to last page
06:32 Speed_Laptop im here
06:32 Cprossu yeah
06:33 Cprossu and the  part you wanted to put in
06:33 Cprossu look to 2nd to last page
06:33 Cprossu cool.
06:33 Cprossu lol
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06:36 Cprossu keep in mind Speed_Laptop if we do this right, the components will be separate
06:37 Cprossu ie the 'switching module' will be called by the 'web module'
06:37 Cprossu only when certain conditions are met.
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06:48 Speed_Laptop z packet gives you info such as Deactivated Input?
06:49 Speed_Laptop Cprossu, ^
06:50 Cprossu negative
06:50 Cprossu go to section I
06:50 Cprossu 1a
06:50 Cprossu get it now?
06:51 * Speed_Laptop readding
06:51 Cprossu so if I send packet X to the frame
06:51 Cprossu it tells me
06:51 Cprossu Output 0 Input 0
06:52 Cprossu ^ this is packet Z
06:52 Cprossu if I send packet x and it's set to output 0 input 3
06:52 Cprossu !!!!
06:53 Cprossu if I send packet X and I've already sent packet Y set to output 0 input 3
06:53 Cprossu I expect packet Z to tell me Output 0 Input 3
06:54 Speed_Laptop ohhh
06:54 Speed_Laptop so z tells you what it did
07:01 Speed_Laptop why isnt there a capture on the first end?
07:03 Hackbat aparently your body doesn't like it when you eat nothing but icecream, kisses, and gummies all day.
07:03 lwq_sleeping /nick lwq_sleeping
07:04 Speed_Laptop hershie kisses?
07:04 Hackbat si
07:14 * Speed_Laptop starts makking immages for the buttions
07:16 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Cprossu on Live Streaming video
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09:48 Nekoroms Heh there is a storm warning over here :)
09:49 Nekoroms its just starting here and winds have not yet picked up
09:49 Nekoroms but meteorological institute says
09:49 Nekoroms Wind warning for land areas: In province Uusimaa in the afternoon and in the evening, strong winds from the southwest may bring strong gusts of 25 m/s. In provinces Varsinais-Suomi,
09:50 Nekoroms wind is still under 8ms/s.. so it might get intersting
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09:56 BotSteve Spatula.
10:04 tonsofpcs pancakes.
10:24 mantere tar flavoured ice cream :3
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11:59 Hackbat <3 the geek xmas tree
12:17 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: kiwifrog on Power Wheels Robot.....Radioactive on Steam distillation of Catnip to produce Nepetalactone
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12:23 KB3NZQ_Biostar cprossu sorry my dad shut down my server lastnight
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12:55 Two-Times-P Hello there!
13:04 Dougy speed_linux: wat
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13:14 speedrunnerG55 Hi
13:16 Two-Times-P Hi there!
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13:36 Sasha-iPhone Oh hey guys. Anyone online? I need urgent help!
13:38 Sasha-iPhone Guys?
13:38 pegasus help with what
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13:40 pegasus oh, help with /quit
13:40 Guardianzozo i guess so lol
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13:43 pegasus help with what
13:52 Sasha-iPhone With a laptop having random bars and patterns all over the screen
13:53 pegasus did you take it apart?
13:57 Sasha-iPhone Nah, going to now. Looked it up online, did not seem like a driver pr windows problem
13:57 pegasus did you drop it?
14:02 Sasha-iPhone It's not mine :p. But there are some serious overheating signs.
14:04 pegasus well assuming it's not under warranty anymore and you have permission to take it apart, pop it open. if i'm guessing right, the GPU was probably a pressure mount and has probably slipped off its contacts a bit. not easy to fix.
14:04 pegasus vaios used to suffer that all the time, idk if they still do
14:04 Sasha-iPhone It's an nVidia
14:05 pegasus information not relevant
14:06 Sasha-iPhone Don't they have serious overheating issues?
14:07 Guardianzozo nvidia? not really
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14:07 pegasus i seriously doubt the silicon itself fried in any meaningful way
14:07 pegasus way too many other simple points of failure
14:07 Sasha-iPhone Meh. I guess that the fact that this is a toshiba change much?
14:08 pegasus toshibas have issues. you got thermal paste and kit to clean off the chips?
14:09 Sasha-iPhone Nah. I need it? Kinda sucks that I'm 2 hours away from home…
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14:10 pegasus depending on the toshiba model, you'll want it. i took apart my last toshiba after it burned my girlfriend's ankle to find piles of thermal paste applied on top of the paper which was still attached to the thermal transfer pad on the heatsink.
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14:10 pegasus scraped all that crap off and put it all back together properly and now it runs cool as a cucumber.
14:10 Sasha-iPhone ?????? Wtf…
14:11 Sasha-iPhone BTW, it's a P100 satallite
14:11 pegasus oh, wait, that was an acer
14:11 pegasus meh, whatever.
14:11 pegasus depending on what you find, you'll want that stuff.
14:12 pegasus if the GPU slipped a bit you'll probably have to get a heat gun and re-center it
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14:12 pegasus careful not to fry any other SMT of course
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14:12 Sasha-iPhone THE WHAT AND DO WHAT??? Really??
14:12 pegasus that's what happened to my ex-girlfriend's vaio
14:13 Sasha-iPhone OMFG. Like that bezfunkerimezined with me.
14:14 pegasus could always just replace the mainboard, of course.
14:14 Sasha-iPhone That will cost too much. Especially where I live.
14:14 pegasus well you'll mail-order it pretty much anywhere.
14:15 pegasus overseas shipping shouldn't be that bad, but import fees or customs or whatever would be a trick
14:15 Sasha-iPhone That's not the point. It just wont be worth it
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14:18 maglinvinn_work yar
14:18 pegasus hey mag
14:18 maglinvinn_work no shit. whats up peg.  been a whiel
14:19 Guardianzozo hows it going mag?
14:19 pegasus http://www.buygamesnotsocks.com/
14:25 Sasha-iPhone Man, i can't even open it up…
14:25 pegasus Sasha: they are tricky.
14:26 Sasha-iPhone No, I'm talking about the case
14:26 pegasus ...so am i?
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14:26 Sasha-iPhone Oh :p
14:27 maglinvinn_work hey zozo
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14:27 Sasha-iPhone My HP is really easy to open up, so it kinda took me by surprise
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14:48 tonsofpcs tell egrsteve if I had to invest in new tools, etc.  I'd go for that stuff
14:51 SparkyProjects tonsofpcs, are you trying to use botsteve ?
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14:52 tonsofpcs BotSteve: tell egrsteve if I had to invest in new tools, etc.  I'd go for that stuff
14:52 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
14:52 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: no :-p (yes :) )
14:53 SparkyProjects :)
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15:02 ynos so whats going on in the world today?
15:04 Guardianzozo minecraft, you?
15:04 ynos work sucking the life out.
15:06 ynos getting ragey with my work blackberry..
15:06 ynos anyone know any good ssh clients for these chunks of poo?
15:08 tonsofpcs ynos: bbssh
15:08 tonsofpcs /join #bbssh  even :)
15:08 tonsofpcs <3 the touchscreen support for quick scrolling
15:08 ynos your touch hasnt died yet?
15:09 ynos the click button stopped responding on mine..
15:09 ynos behind the screen..
15:09 ynos back to a curve.
15:10 tonsofpcs what click button?
15:10 * tonsofpcs does not have a storm POS
15:10 ynos no?
15:10 ynos torch?
15:10 tonsofpcs torch :D
15:10 ynos pretty similar under the covers though..
15:10 tonsofpcs there's no button there though
15:11 tonsofpcs that was the stupidest interface (physical) design ever
15:11 ynos yeh
15:11 ynos kinda liked the tactile feedback of the click
15:11 ynos but the implementation sucked
15:13 tonsofpcs my 9000 was great, my 9800 is awesome
15:13 tonsofpcs the 9700 bothers me.
15:14 ynos physical or OS?
15:14 ynos just upgraded to os6
15:14 ynos cant wait till we can connect other devices to our work VPN.. eff this blackberry nonsense.
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15:21 ynos yay
15:21 ynos tmux looks like ass on here, but overall it isnt bad
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15:22 ynos tonsofpcs:thanks for the bbssh link
15:23 ynos midPssh is ok.. but not great
15:23 ynos bbssh has my heart <3
15:23 tonsofpcs I liked midpssh on my bold
15:23 tonsofpcs although since bbssh added some default shortcuts (like sym = ctrl), and touch screening, i'mm not going back
15:25 ynos wtb: 3g/4g slate with at least a 6x4inch screen..
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15:25 ynos with a popout keyboard..
15:25 ynos so the pseudo keyboard doesnt soak up all that screen realestate.
15:26 ynos getting to be lunch time...
15:29 ynos tonsofpcs: is funny, just did a traceroute to you to see where my packets go.. from grr to det to dallas to houston to chi to ny..
15:30 ynos wonder if something is down in level3's chi ROC
15:33 tonsofpcs why? you just ssaid it went through chi....
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15:34 ynos am a former employee of my ISP, they have a few DS3s to level3 in chi
15:34 livefiretj hi lol
15:34 ynos Hello
15:35 livefiretj that was fun
15:35 ynos did you break something?
15:35 livefiretj maybe but the imporant part is its fixed
15:35 ynos ruh-roh
15:36 livefiretj I was trying to modify the mIRC I'm using
15:36 livefiretj it didnt like that so I put it bk
15:37 ynos modify?
15:37 ynos does it save config in flatfiles, or in registry?
15:37 livefiretj hmmm yes
15:38 ynos or statement, cannot respond with affirmative... cannot parse. code dumped.
15:38 livefiretj I was using config flat
15:38 ynos ahh
15:39 livefiretj its kinda worked but it was crashing
15:39 livefiretj then blue screened
15:39 livefiretj lol
15:39 ynos noice
15:40 livefiretj kinda when mom slaps your hand for getting a cookie
15:40 ynos and by coockie, you mean getting into the liquor cabinet.
15:40 livefiretj shhhh
15:41 ynos Ok kids, time to go meet a couple neighborhood hams for a sandwich at the beer cellar.
15:42 livefiretj but I dont want to dress up and take pictures
15:42 livefiretj play*
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15:43 livefiretj hi seroster
15:44 Seroster Elloh
15:44 livefiretj so I have a question
15:44 Seroster Shoot
15:45 livefiretj if your girlfriend blows in your pants does it count as a blow job
15:45 livefiretj I just want a option
15:46 livefiretj it was a akward moment in the pool with some friends
15:47 livefiretj oh did I kill the irc
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15:49 BotSteve At last!  My only friend!
15:49 livefiretj hi botsteve
15:49 BotSteve Word up livefiretj!
15:49 livefiretj hi
15:50 livefiretj have you flowen over bc yet in the last month?
15:50 speedrunnerG55 Hi
15:50 livefiretj hi speedrunner
15:52 Seroster And I thought my fucked up sense of humor was lame..
15:53 livefiretj one of my friends said it, I thought it was funny
15:53 livefiretj the weather cam has delays...?
15:55 SparkyProjects Not sure if that's Ustream giving the delays, or if the lab pc or router is messing up again
15:55 SparkyProjects One of us should suggest a reboot of both of the latter
15:58 tonsofpcs #1 replace router
15:59 SparkyProjects If they have a decent router to replace it with, or if someone donates one
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16:03 BotSteve At last!  My only friend!
16:05 speedrunnerG55 :)
16:11 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: they have PCs they can use.  Alternately, I might be willing to donate a RB750, but i won't do it unless they're going to use it
16:12 SparkyProjects Problem is, most of the PC's are Dell, and for some reason their capture card won't work with Dell
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16:15 tonsofpcs the capture card doesn't need to be inside the router
16:17 SparkyProjects It needs to be in the PC, or be an external capture device attached to a PC (like a USB capture device (which is what i use))
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16:22 SparkyProjects My test stream doesn't seem to be pausing, jsut got it running to see if i get ads every 20 minutes
16:22 SparkyProjects When tgg had problems with freezing, soon after the stream went offline and back online again, each time it got an ad
16:22 SparkyProjects So now i'm wondering if TGG is dropping too much data and that's seen as a restert
16:26 Nekoroms chris seems to like your new studiomixer :)
16:29 ynos What kind of router do they have?
16:29 ynos and.. what kind of internet connection do they have?
16:29 Cprossu good morning IRC
16:30 ynos i have some leftover cisco stuff, and can crack out a minimal obsd router/firewall/vpn concentrator in an hour or so..
16:30 ynos s/and/or/
16:31 speedrunnerG55 Hi Cprossu
16:31 ynos G'morning Cprossu
16:31 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-ZNv2elZtc ynos, it's in this vid
16:31 Cprossu speedrunnerG55: no capture because I don't want to complicate that code anymore
16:31 speedrunnerG55 Ok
16:32 Cprossu but it was a good idea
16:32 Cprossu if people click the same button I don't want it doing stuff
16:32 speedrunnerG55 Im going to move my linux desktop out of the bacement
16:33 speedrunnerG55 Oh.
16:33 LeadHead Hey, speedrunner
16:33 LeadHead It's basement
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16:33 SparkyProjects Ynos, actually this shows a bit more, go to 1:08 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWRckW9wQfI
16:33 ynos SparkyProjects:unnamed router..
16:34 SparkyProjects ^
16:34 ynos lookin
16:34 speedrunnerG55 I have a question. Can there be a loding bar kind of thing built into the buttions to represent the 5 seconds?
16:34 Cprossu put it in the interface section as a suggestion
16:34 Cprossu and it should represent the entire switch
16:35 Cprossu perhaps a 'lockout"
16:35 Cprossu "lockout button set (dim grey) until switch is made"
16:35 speedrunnerG55 Lockout? It. Ignoring inputs for 5 soconds?
16:35 Cprossu a lockout is disabling of controls
16:35 speedrunnerG55 Oh
16:35 Cprossu and a visable one
16:36 Cprossu visible
16:36 Cprossu whatever
16:36 Cprossu I'll put it in since you are confused somehow
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16:39 ynos hrm.. with all the PC bits laying around, a machine runing hostapd would be mo' better...
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16:40 ynos and you'd get ipv6
16:40 ynos and vpning to connect the different locations
16:42 SparkyProjects tonsofpcs, my test stream just threw up an ad, so that's something Ustream has recently introduced, they are pushing for people to go ad free
16:42 SparkyProjects But at least i don't get any freezing, so i'm thinking that is to do with the PC or router
16:50 Cprossu tggmc tggCaptainBoden want to test your weathercam wiper out? :)
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16:55 mashpriborintorg hi geeks
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16:57 maglinvinn_work cpro, i was under the impression the wiper is out of service... not sure why though
16:57 Druidic_Rifleman I wanna test the leathal force capable security turret???
16:59 Seroster Plastic CRAP! DIEEE!!!
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17:10 ynos what a sleepy grey day up here.
17:10 Cprossu maglinvinn_work: it was fixed when steve redid the cables.
17:10 Cprossu by magic.
17:10 Cprossu oh.
17:11 Cprossu BotSteve: Tell maglinvinn_work weathercam wiper was fixed when steve redid the cables, we think it was caused by black arts and magic, similar to how my jupiter config worked.
17:11 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when maglinvinn_work is around.
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17:57 LeadHead Damn cats.
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18:03 ynos LeadHead: they arent bad, you just have to learn to cook them right.
18:04 ynos little bbq sauce, a few hours on the smoker..
18:04 LeadHead Well the problem is there are now two dead squirrels and at least 4-5 dead mice sitting on my deck
18:04 Two-Times-P lol
18:05 ynos at least yours is proud of it's catches.
18:05 ynos ours hides them because she doesnt want us to take them.
18:06 ynos so we find corpses in the closet, behind the toilet, under the bed..etc
18:06 Two-Times-P Yummy..
18:07 LeadHead cute
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18:17 KB3NZQ_Biostar cprossu my ups put my server in to hybronate (pardon spelling) at about 12:05 am EST for some reason i'm sorry
18:18 * KB3NZQ_Biostar gives Cprossu a hearty slap
18:33 ynos afk, off to investigate why the chickens are going nuts out back...
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18:34 maglinvinn_work yar
18:34 BotSteve maglinvinn_work: I have the following messages for you:
18:34 BotSteve At 17:11Z, Cprossu asked me to Tell maglinvinn_work weathercam wiper was fixed when steve redid the cables, we think it was caused by black arts and magic, similar to how my jupiter config worked.
18:35 maglinvinn_work lul
18:35 maglinvinn_work awesome
18:35 Cprossu hey guys
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18:36 Druidic_Rifleman Hey Is egrsteve on?
18:40 astro73|derrial Cprossu: btw, steve said he'd get kegan to build us a box to play on, so we can do packet captures, testing, deving, monitoring, w/e
18:40 astro73|derrial and if it causes problems, just shut it down and keep doing what we were doing
18:42 astro73|derrial dunno if he told you
18:42 ynos 1 less stray dog in the area...
18:45 ynos gd people who dont take care of their animals piss me off.
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19:00 speedrunnerG55 Hi
19:01 speedrunnerG55 Studdying for the finnal
19:03 Cprossu woot, astro73|derrial
19:03 Cprossu and no he did not
19:03 Cprossu That's freaking awesome
19:04 Cprossu all we need is another thinkcenter.
19:04 Cprossu nothing major
19:04 Cprossu (nice having a big pile of useless computers!)
19:05 Cprossu wow, dslreports is down?!
19:06 ynos looks to be up here
19:06 ynos http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
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19:09 Cprossu ynos the main page was down for MI and for AZ a moment ago
19:09 Cprossu seems fine now
19:09 ynos ah
19:09 Cprossu that's why I asked lol
19:10 ynos ah, i am 10-15 miles north or TGG leonard
19:10 Cprossu fuck
19:10 Cprossu hey tggCaptainBoden you avail?
19:11 ynos traceroutes?
19:11 Cprossu your internet is shitting bricks
19:11 Cprossu JESUS
19:11 Cprossu ynos are you at the lab right now?
19:12 Cprossu or watching the stream?
19:12 ynos watching stream
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19:12 Cprossu ynos just curious why you knew I was doing traceroutes
19:12 ynos because i'd start harassing you if you werent doing some sort of troubleshooting.
19:13 Cprossu oh lol
19:13 Cprossu ynos : http://pastebin.com/XhFs1N0R
19:13 Cprossu FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
19:13 Cprossu check that shit out
19:13 ynos traceroute to ynos.us.
19:14 ynos if you have linux/bsd/notwindows installed, snag mtr
19:14 Cprossu unable to resulf system
19:14 Cprossu *resolv
19:14 Cprossu remember I am doing this remote
19:14 ynos fw.ynos.us
19:15 Cprossu goddddd
19:15 ynos lagalicous?
19:15 ynos what are you trying to traceroute to?
19:16 Cprossu http://pastebin.com/QgVz7dv3
19:16 Cprossu in the case before that one ustream
19:16 ynos good
19:17 ynos and what can i traceoute to to see if i have a better path?
19:17 Cprossu doing it from AZ right now
19:17 Cprossu hang on
19:17 Cprossu wow
19:17 ynos what is tgg node you are tracerouting to?
19:18 Cprossu something is bad wrong
19:18 Cprossu with the internet in general
19:18 Phu gut evening
19:18 KB3NZQ_Biostar KF7pou DE KB3NZQ echolink Please i need to talk for 2 min
19:19 Phu ah... I see it pisses down in Grand Rapids too.
19:19 Cprossu http://pastebin.com/RYkFAJPu
19:20 Phu and I see the stream has a particularly sucky frame rate
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19:27 ynos damn
19:27 ynos http://pastebin.com/KqtHmB9e
19:27 ynos 73% packet loss
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19:29 Firekingdom what with the box?
19:31 ynos for me it is between 123.net and comcast
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19:36 Cprossu hrmmm
19:36 * KB3NZQ_Biostar is like pig pen from the peanuts now cause i was cleaing my dad's wood shop all morning
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19:37 SparkyProjects I see the stream is still freezing bad, I think they need to reboot
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19:42 KB3NZQ_Biostar i was given 10 boxes of floppy disks 10 per box and only one of the 10 boxees was opened the other ones are still sealed and the one box that was opened has 10 disks in it
19:44 LeadHead That's such an ineffecient sentence
19:44 * KB3NZQ_Biostar slaps leadhead with a large smelly trout
19:46 SparkyProjects Do you mean you have 100 floppy's ?
19:46 SparkyProjects :D
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19:47 Phu hi SparkyProjects
19:47 SparkyProjects Hi :)
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19:50 speed_linux hi
19:50 speed_linux brb, im about to move this computer
19:50 speed_linux oh man this computer is soo much fastter compared
19:50 speed_linux bye
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19:53 KB3NZQ_Biostar yes sparky 90 of them are still in their sealed box
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19:54 Cprossu ynos : pm
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20:01 ynos damn..
20:01 Cprossu ok, tgg called
20:02 Cprossu informed of net-a-pocolypse
20:03 SparkyProjects Thanks Cprossu :)
20:04 SparkyProjects It was getting to be like the webcam sites that update the vieww every 30 seconds :D
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20:10 injektion I've had a surprisingly good day :D
20:11 Cprossu .tfw 85020
20:11 BotSteve 106�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'POOOOOOOOOOOOL!'
20:11 Cprossu Going to buy some fan parts
20:11 Cprossu brb
20:16 injektion I drove my ex's Alfa Romeo today
20:18 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Cprossu on Live Streaming video
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20:20 injektion I wanted to get rid of it but I'm going to keep it no matter what breaks on it
20:21 Sasha-iPhone Oh hai guys. Anyone a schematic expert here?
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20:24 Sasha-iPhone Man I just hate that feeling you get when you kill chat…
20:24 LeadHead Only seems to happen when you show up.
20:24 Sasha-iPhone Really?
20:24 masterofmonks It was dead alreaedy, yiou just pronounced it.
20:25 Sasha-iPhone Darn.
20:26 ynos injektion: what year/model of alpha?
20:27 injektion 1989 Milano aka 75
20:28 injektion 3L V6
20:28 LeadHead where do you live
20:28 LeadHead injektion
20:28 injektion Georgia
20:29 ynos ink: this one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_75
20:29 ynos the only ones i have worked on were a lot more streamlined..
20:29 LeadHead I wasn't aware Alfa even sold vehicles in the US
20:29 LeadHead thate late
20:29 LeadHead that
20:29 ynos 5-8 years ago
20:29 injektion Yes that one
20:29 injektion LeadHead, Alfa sold cars here until 1991
20:30 LeadHead Thought Alfa packed up shop way before then
20:30 ynos is the electrical still a piece of shit?
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20:30 injektion In 2012/2013 they are supposed to come back
20:30 injektion ynos, I deal with the issues until I fix them
20:30 LeadHead Are there lucas components
20:30 LeadHead inside the vehicle?
20:31 injektion Beats me I haven't looked because when I fix it I just do it as fast as possible so I can drive it
20:32 ynos they are a blast
20:32 ynos after googling.. it was a montreal
20:32 injektion That Alfa V6 is the ONLY V6 I love
20:33 ynos italian electrical is worse than pre-90s german electrical
20:33 injektion I know
20:33 LeadHead Can't be worse than lucas
20:33 ynos ohyes
20:33 injektion I don't think so
20:33 ynos well.. only lucas i have delt with was on triumphs and nortons
20:33 ynos and that is stupid simple
20:34 injektion ynos, Ever worked on a Stag?
20:34 ynos if you know how points systems work
20:34 ynos stag?
20:34 injektion Triumph Stag
20:35 ynos nope
20:35 ynos only british i have worked on is motorcycles
20:35 ynos triumph, norton, BSA, matchless....
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20:36 injektion oh ok
20:36 speed_linux yeahhhhhh
20:36 speed_linux i moved my pc upstaris
20:36 injektion Anyway when I drove it I can say that it filled a massive hole in my soul
20:36 ynos looks like you need to install screen or tmux..
20:36 speed_linux now with a bigger screen 2gb of ram and a faster cpu i actually get stuff done
20:36 speed_linux :D
20:36 ynos ink: and made your pants tight all at the same time.
20:37 LeadHead How can a car feed you? That's the only way I can see it making your pants tighter...
20:37 speed_linux i wonder. Cprossu can i connect a crossover network cable to transfer files to here if i wish?
20:38 ynos leadhead: e r e c t i o n
20:38 LeadHead No. Shit.
20:38 ynos :(
20:38 injektion I'd say something but I'm keeping it PG
20:39 * KB3NZQ_Biostar needs adtmf pad for an old bell phone
20:39 ynos does it have something to do with the diameter of the alph's tailpipe?
20:39 injektion No
20:39 ynos oh
20:39 injektion I'd never do that
20:39 injektion I'm not range rover man
20:39 speed_linux o_o
20:39 LeadHead I was being facetious, ynos
20:40 speed_linux i was beeing fast ynos
20:41 ynos ahh
20:41 ynos we need to find a way to convey tone in IRC
20:41 ynos or email
20:41 ynos or whatev
20:41 speed_linux or text
20:41 LeadHead As long as you remember that I'm a sarcastic asshole all the time
20:41 LeadHead You should be good.
20:42 ynos Well, comeone, we all know you are not sarcastic.
20:42 ynos **come on
20:42 ynos ohman
20:42 ynos packetloss is dropping!
20:43 ynos its only 14% now!
20:43 ynos anyone else use mtr - MyTraceRoute?
20:45 ynos or pathping in windows worl
20:46 ynos %s/worl/world/g
20:47 Python Hello World
20:47 ynos hello, python
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20:48 Python whats new
20:48 injektion I need to do some laundry
20:49 Python awesome
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20:51 ynos well, enough fighting with the work vpn and packetloss, time to go out and button up a '74 yamaha tx-500
20:51 ynos have fun everyone.
20:51 LeadHead is that a big single?
20:52 ynos nop, that is the XT
20:52 pegasus i love reddit some days.
20:52 pegasus http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/i64av/what_the_fuck_happensportal/
20:52 ynos or the ST
20:52 ynos erp..
20:52 LeadHead or
20:52 LeadHead **aww
20:52 ynos XT or SR
20:52 LeadHead I have a thing for the singles
20:52 ynos so do i
20:52 ynos i race them
20:52 ynos with AHRMA
20:52 LeadHead ah
20:52 LeadHead I just blast around the woods on my 450
20:52 LeadHead nothing competitive
20:53 ynos i have been commuting on an ascot for the past few months..
20:53 ynos is an xr500 motor with a bigger sump
20:53 LeadHead ah
20:53 LeadHead yeah
20:53 LeadHead I know those
20:53 LeadHead weird looking bikes
20:53 ynos yup
20:53 ynos torquey as fsck for a 500
20:53 ynos on the highway even
20:54 ynos doesnt rev past 7k
20:54 ynos but it doesnt need to
20:54 LeadHead Yeah
20:54 LeadHead The 450 has a surprising amount of low-end grunt
20:54 LeadHead but it will pull hard to the limiter
20:54 LeadHead - 10,500
20:54 injektion Are there any chemists in here?
20:55 LeadHead I know a lot of other people that like the big singles as well
20:55 injektion Or anyone that knows about chemicals
20:55 ynos LeadHead: if you ever come to geekgroupGR, come up and play in my garage, around the woods.
20:56 injektion 1) Why the fuck does CaCl burn your skin  2) Why does it attract moisture
20:56 LeadHead I'll keep that in mind
20:56 LeadHead If I ever go out that way
20:57 LeadHead Wikipedia says that Calcium Chloride is an agressive desiccant
20:58 ynos to say the least.
20:58 LeadHead and it irrates skin by esentially sucking all the moisture out of hte area
20:58 LeadHead in addition
20:58 LeadHead it dissolves exothermically (releases heat)
20:58 ynos alrite, to the garage!
20:58 LeadHead cya
20:58 injektion I know about the heat part
20:59 ynos is now known as ynos\|afk
20:59 ynos\|afk is now known as ynos|afk
20:59 injektion That shit clogs up the dust collector hoses at work
21:00 LeadHead what are you cutting?
21:00 LeadHead limestone?
21:01 LeadHead oh wait
21:01 LeadHead thats calcium carbonate
21:01 injektion No LeadHead ever seen a powder filling machine?
21:02 LeadHead nope
21:06 Obtuse_sleep is now known as Obtuse
21:06 Obtuse is now known as Obtuse_
21:06 Obtuse_ is now known as Obtuse__
21:07 Phu injektion: CaCl attracts moisture due to its negative ion forming valence
21:07 Phu it'll attract other molecules too, just not necessarily as well
21:07 Phu and it stings because calcium is an alkaline-earth metal, where as skin is pH 5.5. Meaning its like putting a mild acid on your skin.
21:08 Phu the chlorine helps it along a bit too.
21:08 injektion ok
21:09 Phu and sucking up moisture from the skin certainly doesn't help
21:10 injektion Powder filling machine http://www.alard-equipment.com/a-f/z8055d.jpg
21:10 Phu NaCL (salt) will have a similar effect (e.g. salt into wounds)
21:10 Phu though NaCl isn't quite as water-hungry.
21:11 Phu ok Ustream - this new advert (HARPIC POWER PLUS) policy is pssing me (DETTOL PROTECTS) right off
21:12 Phu I could deal with an advert at the start... but one advert every 10 fucking minutes?
21:12 LeadHead oh
21:12 LeadHead I've seen machines like that on howitsmade
21:12 Phu LeadHead: you're in the US, right?
21:12 LeadHead Yes, why
21:12 Phu do your episodes of how its made have an american/candian voiceover?
21:13 Phu canadian even
21:13 injektion The dust collector hose is taped to the turret of the filling machine. When CaCl is being filled you can see water dancing in the DC hose
21:13 LeadHead I find that the ones on Discovery Channel
21:13 LeadHead are usually american/canadian
21:13 LeadHead in accent
21:13 Phu ok
21:13 LeadHead while the ones in the Science channel
21:13 LeadHead or whatever
21:14 LeadHead have a mix of both american/canadian/british
21:14 Phu we get How Its Made here in the UK too. but they change the voiceover to a british guy.
21:14 Phu with a slightly northern accent
21:14 LeadHead Same thing with Mythbusters, too.
21:14 Phu oh. On behalf of Discovery Europe, I apologise for that.
21:14 injektion I prefer the American voiceover now that they brought back Brooks T. Moore
21:14 Phu the uk voiceover dude for mythbusters is a bit of a tosspiece.
21:15 LeadHead I don't get why is such a big deal to localize the narrators
21:15 injektion http://www.brooksmoore.com/brooks-demohowitsmade1.1a.html
21:15 Phu me neither, except that the american guy does it a helluva lot better.
21:15 LeadHead Yeah, that's the guy I'm most familiar with
21:16 injektion They replaced him then brought him back
21:17 LeadHead What channel is stuff like Mythbusters and How Its Made
21:17 LeadHead Guessing some BBC/Discovery partnership?
21:17 injektion I think discovery has their own channel
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21:17 injektion I don't think the BBC takes too nicely to showing ads
21:18 injektion or having commercial breaks
21:18 Phu well....
21:18 Phu mythbusters goes on Discovery Channel first
21:18 Phu then, after say 5 series, it makes its way onto BBC2.
21:18 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 6 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Angy on Live Streaming video.....baldbrad on Live Streaming videobaldbrad on Possible complete radio system for TGG lab.....Angy on Live Streaming video.....Angy on Live Streaming video.....baldbrad on Live Streaming video
21:18 Phu How Its Made has never made it past Discovery.
21:19 injektion Just like how QI will never be shown on BBC America
21:19 LeadHead QI?
21:19 injektion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QI
21:21 LeadHead why will it never be shown here
21:21 Phu QI is Quality
21:21 injektion Something about how the photographs they use will cost to much to license for BBCA
21:21 Phu there should be a new series soon actually, series I.
21:22 injektion Or the face the Americans will not be able to understand it
21:22 injektion fact*
21:22 Phu now  I wouldn't want to condone piracy, but in the absence of a legal solution I would point out that the pirate bay does have episodes available for download....
21:22 SparkyProjects The actual BBC are not a commercial station (but they should be), so  you won't find ads on there.
21:22 LeadHead You guys pay your TV license
21:22 LeadHead so you don't have commericals
21:22 LeadHead right
21:22 injektion Phu, Expat Shield
21:22 Phu yup
21:22 Phu injektion: que?
21:23 LeadHead Too bad the US has no good commercial free TV
21:23 injektion http://expatshield.com/
21:23 Phu you found a tv licensing loophole injektion?
21:23 SparkyProjects But they also seem to have partnerships with other networks, UKTV is one, it's on satellite, they re-show BC programmes, and i've seen ads on there
21:23 Phu LeadHead: we get the american football live on Sky Sports....
21:23 injektion It's a VPN that gives you a UK IP addreess
21:23 injektion address*
21:23 Phu now we have adverts. but not to the level that america has achieve in mid-sports advertising.
21:24 LeadHead Even on Sky Sports?
21:24 Phu to the point that after the 3 hours, you can see the commentators ran out of filler material long ago
21:24 LeadHead Oh
21:24 LeadHead so while we're on commerical break
21:24 Phu "we'll have to talk... we can't do another advert break, we only had one 3 minutes ago!"
21:24 LeadHead Your guys are not
21:25 SparkyProjects Leadhead, if TV wasn't commercial, they would need to get revenue from somewhere, so what the BBC do is get you to pay an annual license fee, currently at about £120 i think (i don't have one as i got rid of my TV)
21:25 Phu LeadHead: depends how long ago the adverts were
21:25 speed_linux i have  a question. how manny inputs will the switcher have? 8 or 16>
21:25 speed_linux because they way the buttons are placed, it makes it confusing
21:26 LeadHead Wish the US had a good public broadcast service
21:26 LeadHead Commericals on the major networks are horrifying
21:28 LeadHead FM Stations are getting even worse
21:30 dr_jkl ffff.
21:31 LeadHead and of course all of them are like
21:31 LeadHead more music less commericals!
21:31 LeadHead One of the local rock stations has gotten to the point where I'm quite sure its half/half music/commericals now
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21:33 Phu bweep
21:34 Phu where.... what... who... cory... stream... huh?
21:34 SparkyProjects in cafe
21:34 speed_linux FFFFF
21:34 Phu that was the cafe?
21:34 Phu it looked like a whole new room :P
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21:35 speed_linux .stream
21:35 BotSteve The Geek Group Live Web Stream can be found at: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-geek-group-behind-the-scenes-live-feed
21:35 SparkyProjects looks lke it, the door to the left (just about see it) is the door to the studios
21:36 BigTank so whats going on today at TGG?
21:37 SparkyProjects Might have something to do with this http://thegeekgroup.org/bb/grand-rapids/machine-vision-presentation-on-june-23/#p45545
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21:38 speed_linux Bat-Mobile, !!
21:38 speed_linux WB
21:38 dr_jkl Bat-Mobile: hihi
21:38 Bat-Mobile hey speed and dr_jkl
21:39 dr_jkl baaat.
21:39 Bat-Mobile what's up?
21:39 dr_jkl i had to restart and lost my smail
21:39 dr_jkl snail*
21:39 maglinvinn_work looks like corey is trying to play pool but the table is missing!
21:39 maglinvinn_work lol.
21:40 dr_jkl lol
21:42 Bat-Mobile .seen retupmoca
21:42 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen retupmoca around.
21:42 maglinvinn_work what are they setting up anyways
21:42 Bat-Mobile .seen karmicthreat
21:42 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen karmicthreat around.
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21:50 SparkyProjects Bat-mobile this i think http://thegeekgroup.org/bb/grand-rapids/machine-vision-presentation-on-june-23/#p45545
21:50 Bat-Mobile SparkyProjects: whatzit?
21:50 speed_linux Bat-Mobile, i have a question
21:50 speed_linux for you
21:50 speed_linux lol
21:51 SparkyProjects Something to do with GRLUG
21:51 Bat-Mobile ok, clicking the link.  go ahead with the question, speed
21:52 dr_jkl that's much better.
21:53 speed_linux 0_0
21:53 exor674 hai dr_jkl
21:53 dr_jkl heya
21:53 * exor674 hugs?
21:53 * dr_jkl hugs!
21:53 * speed_linux hugs exor674
21:54 MadManMarkAu Oh good grief what's happening on the stream?
21:54 MadManMarkAu And, will it be recorded?
21:54 Python GRLUG
21:55 Bat-Mobile SparkyProjects: two things - first, I'm not actually in the state so I wouldn't be able to go
21:55 Bat-Mobile second, why again did you link it to me in particular?
21:55 speed_linux Bat-Mobile, how manny video inputs will the switcher have?
21:55 speed_linux 8? or 16?
21:56 Bat-Mobile speed_linux: thirty-seven
21:56 SparkyProjects Sorry Bat, thought you were asking what was going on in streeam :P
21:56 MadManMarkAu Umm, guys, what is this presentation?
21:56 Bat-Mobile SparkyProjects: ah, gotcha.  cool.
21:56 Bat-Mobile speed_linux: actually I have no idea how many inputs it will have
21:56 Bat-Mobile Probably not 37 though.
21:57 exor674 42?
21:58 Bat-Mobile seven hundred and twelve?
21:58 exor674 e!
21:58 Bat-Mobile e!
21:59 MadManMarkAu 2.71828182845904523536028747135266249775724709369995
21:59 MadManMarkAu !
22:02 MadManMarkAu "WMLUG, GRLUG & The Geek Group"
22:03 MadManMarkAu http://wmlug.org/
22:03 MadManMarkAu "GRLUG, WMLUG, TGG combined meeting for Machine Vision"
22:04 MadManMarkAu "Nate Oostendorp is an Ann Arbor resident hanging out in Holland for the summer to pimp his new company Ingenuitas and the open source software on which it is based. The company is creating SimpleCV, an easy to use wrapper around various other enigmatic open source machine vision libraries such as OpenCV. Their aim is to make it easy for anyone to hook a camera up to a computer and start
22:04 MadManMarkAu using machine vision in their projects."
22:04 MadManMarkAu That's what's going on
22:05 dr_jkl i think the horn button in the hvl needs a sign marked 'vuvuzela' :D
22:05 MadManMarkAu xD BRILLIANT!
22:05 MadManMarkAu It... must... be... done xD
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22:06 MadManMarkAu BotSteve, tell CaptainBoden that dr_jkl thinks the horn in the HVL should be labeled "vuvuzela," and I tend to agree. Will this happen? :D
22:06 BotSteve MadManMarkAu: I'll pass that on when CaptainBoden is around.
22:06 MadManMarkAu Should be good for a laugh
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22:18 speed_linux whats going on ibn the stream?
22:26 speed_linux this is awesome!
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22:28 Bat-Mobile back later...maybe
22:28 Bat-Mobile left #thegeekgroup
22:30 pegasus ...yahoo just sent me a notice about yahoo mail...
22:30 pegasus wouldn't be a problem if they sent it to a yahoo mail account
22:31 pegasus they sent it to my @personal.domain.tld instead
22:31 pegasus thanks for the spam, yahoo
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22:36 maglinvinn_work man is addicted to his 'ah ah ah' s.  hehe.  get that man a rubber band and have him snap it every time...
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22:39 pegasus http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/06/ask-ars-which-image-services-might-commercialize-my-photos.ars
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23:07 Druidic_Rifleman Hey CSMonster
23:08 Druidic_Rifleman hows your brother?
23:08 CSMonster stupid but okay
23:08 BotSteve CSMonster: I have the following messages for you:
23:08 BotSteve At 20 Jun 20:15Z, Ponko92 asked me to Tell CSMonster Ponko92 wonders where you are
23:08 Druidic_Rifleman thats good
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23:08 CSMonster botsteve: tell ponko92 i've been busy
23:08 BotSteve CSMonster: I'll pass that on when ponko92 is around.
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23:09 * Python is back
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23:18 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Mert on Home Built Tesla Coil- winding the secondary pt 3
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23:36 Druidic_Rifleman tggmc whats going on instream?
23:36 * Python crashed again ! linux is failing me
23:36 Serostern SparkyProjects,  here?
23:36 Serostern I need yooo
23:36 Python GRLUG
23:36 Python SimpleCV
23:37 Serostern I need some help with a product indentification
23:37 Serostern I have a gadget here that is very clearly something, but I have no idea what. =P
23:37 Python presentational on machine vision with simpleCV in python,
23:37 CSMonster a gadget?
23:37 Serostern Grey box, 20 by 20 by 20cm, bigass fan, a few terminal blocks,
23:37 Serostern The tag says:
23:38 CSMonster go go gadget mystery?
23:38 Serostern Hm
23:38 Serostern Micromaster 420
23:38 Python "Hm"
23:39 CSMonster "The family of MICROMASTER frequency inverters address drive applications in the power range extending from 0.12 kW up to 250 kW. From simple applications with voltage-frequency control (V/f control) or complex applications with closed-loop vector control and encoder feedback."
23:39 Serostern "input 200-240v +10% -10% 10 (zero with a line thru it)AC 20.2A 47-63 hz
23:39 Serostern Wtf does that mean... The input xD
23:40 CSMonster http://www.automation.siemens.com/mcms/standard-drives/en/low-voltage-inverter/micromaster-4/micromaster-420/Pages/micromaster-420.aspx
23:40 Serostern The output is 0-650hz
23:40 Serostern I was going to google it... Yes.
23:41 CSMonster http://youtu.be/X8YrLeuXVBQ
23:41 Serostern There is a very obvios and empty ribbon cable input here
23:41 Serostern And since it was found in the garbage I think it is dead.
23:42 Serostern =O!
23:42 Serostern The toroidal filter..
23:42 Serostern That's goin on the wall!
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23:43 tggmc druidic_rifleman, we have a presentation today
23:43 Druidic_Rifleman ah ok cool
23:43 Serostern But in essence it is a 3phase frequenzy converter and is supposed to go between mains and the motor... But what is its purpose...  Speed control?
23:43 Druidic_Rifleman on?
23:43 tggmc seeing as i was told to just grab cameras, i don't actually remember who he is or where he's from
23:44 tggmc all i know is there's been a lot of stuff involving kinect hacks
23:45 tggmc oh wait, python has it explained above
23:45 tggmc thank you sir
23:49 Serostern 560uf 400v. Daemn
23:51 Serostern The filter got... Crap I aint used to measuring that big wires. <6 gauge
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