Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-06-26

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00:06 Fulsy COMPRESSED AIR
00:08 Fulsy Compressing compressors compressing compressed air
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00:24 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Angy on Live Streaming video
00:32 Obtuse_lappy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1MbC7Q4od0&amp;NR=1 <--- a simple portable setup for broadcasting to the web
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00:45 Angy4 Cprossu, are you somewhere around?
00:51 Cprossu_Netbook yes
00:51 Cprossu_Netbook 5 minutes late but yeah
00:51 Cprossu_Netbook @ Angy4
00:51 Angy4 :)
00:52 Cprossu_Netbook what a fucked up race that was
00:52 Angy4 I can live stream flash in live :)
00:52 Cprossu_Netbook so what do you figure for a 'our connection' based stream?
00:53 Cprossu_Netbook nice, you using the adobe live encoder?
00:53 Angy4 yep
00:53 Cprossu_Netbook what's the bw per conn look like
00:53 Angy4 roughly 70ko/s at 25fps
00:53 Cprossu_Netbook res is what line wise?
00:54 Angy4 hum.. can't remember, let me check
00:54 Cprossu_Netbook damn
00:54 Cprossu_Netbook that's 560kbits/sec
00:54 Cprossu_Netbook I think if we're lucky we have 3 mbit up
00:54 Cprossu_Netbook I gotta go do a check
00:56 Cprossu ok
00:56 Cprossu gonna do a BW check
00:57 Cprossu hey steve, tggmc you up there?
00:57 Angy4 bitrate is roughly 300kb
00:57 Angy4 you'll need to bounce on a FMS server
00:57 Cprossu good deal.
00:58 Angy4 I bounce on a FMS server :)
00:58 Cprossu wonderful
00:58 Angy4 but I have to setup another thing, FMS is limited to 10 current connections for dev licence
00:58 Cprossu if you need an extra put it in
00:59 Cprossu since I put 2 vrt's and 2 tests and a misc in
00:59 Cprossu that's 5 to play with right there
01:00 Cprossu tggmc : I think your computer has flash on it or something, and I have an ad
01:00 Cprossu well whatever
01:00 Cprossu http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest?flash=1
01:00 Cprossu ^ do a speed test here and tell me what our upload ends up being
01:00 Cprossu no I mean on the irc computer
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01:01 Cprossu I don't want to install anything else on the mc computer
01:01 Cprossu for obvious reasons
01:01 tggmc no flash here
01:01 Cprossu kk
01:02 Angy4 http://mire.ipadsl.net/
01:02 Angy4 forget it, no upload test
01:04 Cprossu how does the 2nd weathercam look?
01:04 Cprossu functionality wise?
01:05 Cprossu ahhhh ok
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01:06 Cprossu hrmmm
01:06 Cprossu what was the room that they had the linux conf in?
01:06 Cprossu ahhh ok
01:07 Cprossu yeah I hear that
01:07 Cprossu looks nice though
01:07 Cprossu thanks for filling it in
01:07 Cprossu routers
01:07 Cprossu yeah
01:07 Cprossu no kidding
01:09 Cprossu hrmm
01:09 Cprossu you know I wonder
01:09 Cprossu (does a quick ebay search)
01:09 Cprossu http://cgi.ebay.com/Philips-Venus-Audio-Video-Routing-Switcher-64x64-/130367973394?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item1e5a896812
01:09 Cprossu that would solve all our issues rofl
01:10 Cprossu I think that might be digital though
01:10 Cprossu hrmmm
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01:10 Cprossu just the first one I clicked
01:11 Cprossu wow
01:11 Cprossu the analog stuff
01:11 Cprossu goes way high
01:11 Cprossu in price
01:11 Cprossu and AD
01:11 Cprossu GRRRR AD
01:11 Cprossu I DON'T WANT FUCKING KOOL AID!!! NOOOOO POPUNDER!
01:11 Cprossu ok phew
01:11 Cprossu continue tggmc
01:12 Cprossu if I find something worth it it might lead to a solution
01:13 Cprossu on the 20 ten stuff
01:13 Cprossu well hrmm
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01:15 Cprossu cool
01:15 Cprossu I was looking for where that was
01:15 Cprossu lets see what it 'needs'
01:16 Cprossu trying to remeber
01:16 Cprossu where I set the level
01:18 Cprossu satlvl0
01:18 Cprossu is different than lvl0
01:19 Cprossu software is very shitty
01:22 Cprossu tggmc hrmmm
01:23 Cprossu so we need to add a 'control board' to it
01:24 devast8a|dc is now known as devast8a
01:24 pegasus Jun 25 21:05:18 victim sshd[21103]: Local disconnected: Protocol error: packet too long: 47030883.
01:24 Cprossu any idea?
01:24 pegasus ...someone's trying to 'sploit me.
01:24 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 3 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: randommscience117 on The Junk Box.....Angy on Live Streaming video.....Cprossu on Live Streaming video
01:25 Cprossu write that in irc
01:25 tggmc 20 ten serial 38400 even 8 bits 1 stop
01:27 Cprossu backing out before I do damage
01:28 Cprossu there got a backup of it
01:28 Cprossu hey tggmc
01:29 Cprossu is there a key held down?
01:29 Cprossu it keeps on highlighting everything
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01:32 Cprossu pulling the config file offline
01:32 Cprossu to work on it here
01:32 tggmc ok
01:34 tggmc brb
01:37 Cprossu were you able to find any of those molex to pcie's for chris?
01:40 Cprossu kk
01:40 Cprossu I know there's a ton of them somewhere
01:40 Cprossu because 2 came with quite a few cards and there's no reason to ever use them
01:40 Cprossu except for this reason lol
01:42 Cprossu OOOH
01:42 Cprossu tggmc
01:42 Cprossu I found something!
01:42 Cprossu ftp://ftp.grassvalley.com/router/20ten/
01:42 Cprossu I have no clue what's here yet
01:42 Cprossu but it looks promising
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01:43 Cprossu they are extracted files there
01:43 Cprossu and doc files
01:44 Cprossu and an example
01:45 Cprossu OMG
01:45 Cprossu it's a .BAS program
01:45 Cprossu basic!
01:45 Cprossu where did I ...ad... wait 30 seconds
01:46 tggmc thats pretty
01:46 Cprossu go into ser_prog
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01:46 tggmc looking at demo myself
01:46 speedrunnerG55 hi doods
01:46 Cprossu I'm looking for an old copy of qbasic I have on here
01:46 speedrunnerG55 whats up
01:47 speedrunnerG55 im at digital press
01:47 speedrunnerG55 :D
01:48 Cprossu got dosbox on tggmc
01:48 Cprossu and qbasic
01:48 Cprossu opening file
01:48 Cprossu gvg did it in OLD basic
01:48 Cprossu qbasic failed to get it open right
01:49 Cprossu I was trying to run the source
01:49 Cprossu to the demo
01:50 speedrunnerG55 0_0
01:50 Cprossu wow
01:50 speedrunnerG55 what CAN it do
01:50 Cprossu that program is nifty
01:52 Cprossu you should be able to
01:52 Cprossu with the right basic
01:52 Cprossu but it loads all corrupted into Q-basic
01:52 Cprossu which is weird
01:52 Cprossu because gw-basic should load fine
01:57 Cprossu stupid as
01:57 Cprossu *ass ads
01:58 Cprossu that one was 10 minutes
01:58 * Python thinks adblock is nice
01:58 Cprossu they seem to be at random intervals
01:58 Cprossu from 5 minutes to 20
01:58 Cprossu @ tggmc
01:58 Cprossu always the same set of ads too
01:58 Cprossu I can't wait to dump them
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01:59 Cprossu all right hrmmph
01:59 Cprossu switching machines
02:04 Cprossu_Laptop ok going on the config now
02:09 Cprossu_Laptop freaking thing
02:09 Cprossu_Laptop lol
02:09 Cprossu_Laptop I'm glad I decided to not add anything to the mc comp
02:10 Cprossu_Laptop my test comp already corrupted it's own configurator
02:10 Cprossu_Laptop had to reinstall
02:10 Cprossu_Laptop I had a feeling
02:12 Cprossu_Laptop whenever I get that feeling I stop what I am doing and pull it off of the system with no saves
02:12 Cprossu_Laptop thankfully dodged a bullet there
02:12 Cprossu_Laptop man this software sure sucks, tggmc
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02:13 Cprossu_Laptop yeah hahaha
02:14 Cprossu_Laptop but yeah I'm glad my instincts are still right
02:14 Cprossu_Laptop I think
02:14 Cprossu_Laptop hrmmm
02:14 Cprossu_Laptop wow
02:14 Cprossu_Laptop it is
02:14 pegasus Pipe pipe = You.getInventory().getItemByMaterial(Material.PIPE);
02:14 pegasus pipe.insert(this);
02:14 pegasus You.smoke(pipe);
02:15 Cprossu_Laptop hey tggmc
02:15 Cprossu_Laptop I do have a backup plan
02:15 Cprossu_Laptop when we get the software running for mc control
02:15 Cprossu_Laptop it won't be a big deal to use the other serial port
02:15 Cprossu_Laptop for one 'dynamic'
02:15 Cprossu_Laptop input on the saturn
02:15 Cprossu_Laptop fed by a 20ten
02:15 Cprossu_Laptop or 2
02:16 Cprossu_Laptop once we get mc automation
02:16 Cprossu_Laptop that'll be a breeze
02:16 Cprossu_Laptop we can keep the systems separate
02:16 Cprossu_Laptop and feed it somehow
02:17 Cprossu_Laptop is there a year?
02:17 Seroster Its one of them imperialicated bolts!
02:17 Cprossu_Laptop on our 20tens?
02:17 Cprossu_Laptop wow
02:17 Cprossu_Laptop that late o_o
02:17 Cprossu_Laptop I wonder how many products they've called 20 ten then
02:17 Seroster No... Unrelated
02:18 Seroster Ohnevermind. Goodnight.
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02:18 Cprossu_Laptop fucking hell once again
02:18 Cprossu_Laptop all gvg boxes look similar
02:18 Cprossu_Laptop that doesn't help
02:19 Cprossu_Laptop the sa-choco beast....
02:19 Cprossu_Laptop at full blast
02:19 Cprossu_Laptop .......................
02:19 Cprossu_Laptop this one screamed
02:19 Cprossu_Laptop and blew my ears off
02:20 Cprossu_Laptop @ tggmc
02:21 tggmc 00669900
02:21 Cprossu_Laptop 00669900
02:22 Cprossu_Laptop tggmc: I'll leave it up to your imagination what showed up in google images
02:22 Cprossu_Laptop not gvg lol
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02:24 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Bill Jones on Rail gun/cannon.....Bill Jones on Power Wheels Robot
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02:25 * Python crashed
02:26 * Python does not like crashing several times every day
02:26 * Python almost wishes he ran M$ windows
02:28 injection lol
02:28 BotSteve injection: I have the following messages for you:
02:28 BotSteve At 09 Jun 21:57Z, speed-win asked me to tell injection i can help
02:29 Cprossu_Laptop oh my god.
02:29 Cprossu_Laptop I opened all the jupiter and saturn config tabs
02:29 Cprossu_Laptop and tables
02:30 Cprossu_Laptop it's quite a site
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02:31 pegasus "thing to behold" or "place for a thing"?
02:31 Cprossu_Laptop 45 windows total
02:31 Cprossu_Laptop ^ @ pegasus
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02:31 pegasus right, but you said "it's quite a place for a thing", but i don't think that's what you meant
02:32 Cprossu_Laptop it's quite a mess
02:32 pegasus sight.
02:32 pegasus for future reference.
02:32 Cprossu_Laptop mind=blown
02:32 pegasus i know, right?
02:32 Cprossu_Laptop so my grammar may fail
02:32 Cprossu_Laptop llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
02:32 Cprossu_Laptop ^ error crc fail
02:33 Cprossu_Laptop in brain (0)ring (1)
02:33 injection Has the control software crashed yet?
02:33 tggmc pebkac?
02:33 Cprossu_Laptop yeah
02:33 Cprossu_Laptop partially an ID-10T error
02:33 injection If it's in VB and hasn't crashed yet I'll be surprised
02:33 Cprossu_Laptop yeah they are brutal
02:34 Cprossu_Laptop and they had a team of them working at thompson
02:34 Cprossu_Laptop overtime.
02:34 Cprossu_Laptop ad
02:34 Cprossu_Laptop hmmm
02:35 tggmc .seen captainboden
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02:35 BotSteve tggmc: I last saw captainboden 12.94 hours ago at 2011-06-25 13:38:32 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:35:02 UTC
02:35 Cprossu_Laptop I don't even remember this many ads in livestream
02:35 Cprossu_Laptop .seen tggCaptainBoden
02:35 BotSteve Cprossu_Laptop: I last saw tggcaptainboden 105.47 hours ago at 2011-06-21 17:07:20 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:35:30 UTC
02:35 Cprossu_Laptop lol
02:35 LinuxH4x0r woot
02:35 LinuxH4x0r picked up a psp for $10
02:36 Cprossu_Laptop dead battery?
02:36 LinuxH4x0r and it has a low enough firmware that I can install custom firmware
02:36 LinuxH4x0r yeah
02:36 LinuxH4x0r haven't tried charging it
02:36 Cprossu_Laptop nice though
02:36 Cprossu_Laptop g/l
02:36 LinuxH4x0r just swapped in a working battery
02:36 LinuxH4x0r and it works just fine
02:36 Cprossu_Laptop man that network card
02:36 LinuxH4x0r looking for something cool to do with it
02:36 Cprossu_Laptop toasted better than I could have ever imagined
02:37 Cprossu_Laptop it was a nice (!) on the day too
02:37 Cprossu_Laptop always good to fix where problems start imo
02:38 Cprossu_Laptop I've never had an issue with one of those
02:38 Cprossu_Laptop before
02:38 LinuxH4x0r i think I might gut it and mount it in my truck for music
02:38 Cprossu_Laptop specifically of that model
02:38 Cprossu_Laptop so I fixed that.
02:38 Cprossu_Laptop yeah lol
02:39 Cprossu_Laptop I was really surprised we decapped it too
02:39 Cprossu_Laptop that's what's supposed to happen in a cartoon scenario
02:39 Cprossu_Laptop haahah
02:39 Cprossu_Laptop yeah
02:40 Cprossu_Laptop probably
02:40 Cprossu_Laptop yeah I was expecting a little fizzle
02:40 Cprossu_Laptop hahahaha
02:41 Cprossu_Laptop I expected it to dissapoint till the end
02:41 Cprossu_Laptop but it didn't
02:41 Cprossu_Laptop yeah :(
02:41 Cprossu_Laptop hahahaha
02:41 Cprossu_Laptop yeah no kidding
02:42 Cprossu_Laptop did they get video of it?
02:42 Cprossu_Laptop I saw cameras going
02:42 Cprossu_Laptop nice
02:42 Cprossu_Laptop is the BRBOS a allen bradley?
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02:43 Cprossu_Laptop yeah I don't have a spare for that
02:43 Cprossu_Laptop I do have a nos allen bradley control though
02:43 Cprossu_Laptop red, green, step/jog
02:43 Cprossu_Laptop all in a box
02:43 Cprossu_Laptop never used
02:43 Cprossu_Laptop don't know what I am going to do with it yet
02:44 Cprossu_Laptop hopefully
02:44 Cprossu_Laptop later, get some sleep
02:45 Cprossu_Laptop yeah big list
02:45 Cprossu_Laptop chryon?
02:45 Cprossu_Laptop understood
02:45 Cprossu_Laptop k good deal
02:45 Cprossu_Laptop we need a dumbweighter to mc lol
02:45 Cprossu_Laptop hahahaha
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02:46 injection The BRBOS looks like something from AB
02:46 Cprossu_Laptop there was some scary wiring over there
02:46 Obtuse_lappy lol, i had the laptop on mute. I htought Cprossu was talking to himself
02:46 Obtuse_lappy since there's no picture
02:47 Obtuse_lappy other than weather cam
02:47 Cprossu_Laptop like the court lighting
02:47 Obtuse_lappy that Cprossu, he's nuts
02:47 Obtuse_lappy lol
02:47 Cprossu_Netbook When I DO talk to myself
02:47 Cprossu_Laptop I prefer dos equis
02:48 Obtuse_lappy lol
02:48 Cprossu_Laptop hope that makes you happy lol
02:48 Obtuse_lappy Steve, did you do anything for Field Day?
02:48 Cprossu_Laptop how goes progress on the security system?
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02:49 Cprossu_Laptop CaptainBoden was talking about it weeks ago
02:49 Cprossu_Laptop security cams
02:49 Cprossu_Laptop ad
02:49 Cprossu_Laptop back.
02:50 Python run adblock !
02:50 Cprossu_Laptop you were saying thoug?
02:50 Cprossu_Laptop yeah I've built those up before
02:50 Cprossu_Laptop I even had some panasonics that ran off of a rf45
02:50 tonsofpcs hi
02:50 Cprossu_Laptop it's probably composite
02:50 Cprossu_Laptop honestly
02:50 tonsofpcs someone live on stream or no?
02:51 Obtuse_lappy lol. Steve is via audio
02:51 Cprossu_Laptop yeah same ground.
02:51 Cprossu_Laptop tonsofpcs: not enough manpower to move the chryon today
02:51 Obtuse_lappy I'm going to take the Technician HAM license in July
02:51 Cprossu_Laptop I was working on it though
02:51 Obtuse_lappy i mean exam
02:51 Obtuse_lappy to get the license
02:51 tonsofpcs Obtuse_lappy: I need to take mine too...
02:52 tonsofpcs also, take them all. It's onne cost to take as many different  tests as you want
02:52 tonsofpcs grr, i have to wait for ad to fullscreen it....
02:52 Obtuse_lappy don't you need experience to move up from Tech to General?
02:52 tonsofpcs nope
02:52 Cprossu_Laptop I hate it when that happens
02:52 Cprossu_Laptop nope
02:52 Cprossu_Laptop just take test ??? profit
02:52 tonsofpcs hi tggmc!
02:53 tonsofpcs your level is really really low
02:53 Obtuse_lappy haha. WHAT PROFIT?
02:53 tonsofpcs like, it's low on the theatre system low.
02:53 Obtuse_lappy HAM is a hole in the ground you throw money at.
02:53 tonsofpcs Obtuse_lappy: the profit that comes from helping others in need
02:53 Obtuse_lappy but people love it
02:54 Obtuse_lappy ah, i guess that's one way
02:54 Obtuse_lappy trying to figure out how nuts i'll go with equipment once i get a license
02:54 tonsofpcs are your levels the same into the board as into the PC?
02:54 tonsofpcs (I can correct for it on the theatre system, but it's low
02:54 tonsofpcs )
02:54 Cprossu_Netbook long story short
02:54 tonsofpcs Obtuse_lappy: I just want a license so I can do things on certain bands that I can't now
02:55 Cprossu_Netbook tonsofpcs: we are on a boden level prefention program
02:55 Cprossu_Netbook *prevention
02:55 Cprossu_Netbook lol
02:55 tonsofpcs I mean, I got 88-108 covered as well as UHF...
02:55 tonsofpcs (MHz)
02:55 Obtuse_lappy I just want to do it for the learning
02:55 Cprossu_Netbook stick around long enough and you'll find out what it means
02:55 tonsofpcs i'm really not comfortable leaving my amp at this level cus the ads are going to blow my neighbors out of their seats...
02:55 Cprossu_Netbook yeah you can learn everything about it without it being illegal
02:56 Cprossu_Netbook it's a plus
02:56 Cprossu_Netbook yeah
02:56 Obtuse_lappy UG< 30 second ad
02:56 Cprossu_Netbook AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
02:56 Cprossu_Netbook freaking monster ad
02:56 tonsofpcs THX?
02:56 Obtuse_lappy now i want some fucking pudding
02:56 Cprossu_Netbook no worse than thx
02:56 tonsofpcs if you don't finish your meat, you can't have any pudding
02:56 tonsofpcs it is a bit better
02:56 tonsofpcs well, it was
02:56 injection My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard...
02:57 Obtuse_lappy haha
02:57 Cprossu_Netbook HOW CAN YOU HAVE ANY PUDDING IF YOU HAVENT HAD YOUR MEAT?!
02:57 Cprossu_Netbook lol
02:57 * tonsofpcs had pork roast outside today
02:57 tonsofpcs tomorrow is trip to Syracuse Apple Store to hammer FCP
02:57 tonsofpcs yea, you had a question about them?
02:58 tonsofpcs yea, just run it between them
02:58 tonsofpcs oh
02:58 tonsofpcs hrm...
02:58 tonsofpcs got a sillyscope handy?
02:58 Cprossu_Laptop I think that comes tomorrow or monday or something
02:58 Obtuse_lappy lol sillyscope
02:58 tonsofpcs what connector do they have?
02:58 Cprossu_Laptop actually
02:58 Obtuse_lappy never heard that before
02:59 Cprossu_Laptop get the female molex
02:59 Cprossu_Laptop see if you can slip one out
02:59 tonsofpcs what size?
02:59 tonsofpcs just standard size 3x phoenix?
02:59 Cprossu_Laptop 3 pole, 5.06 pitch,
02:59 * tonsofpcs is now known as tons_netbook
02:59 Cprossu_Laptop oh
02:59 Cprossu_Laptop 5.08?
02:59 tonsofpcs Cprossu_Laptop: is that the 'standard' low voltage phoenix?
03:00 Cprossu_Laptop wow
03:00 Cprossu_Laptop http://ja.aliexpress.com/product-fm/445153181-Phoenix-Blocks-Connector-3Pin-Male-Female-20-Pack-wholesalers.html
03:00 tonsofpcs ok, you have one.
03:00 tonsofpcs are you just missing another?
03:00 Cprossu_Laptop they actually are rated 300volts
03:00 tonsofpcs yea, i know what a phoenix connector is
03:00 tonsofpcs http://www.fullcompass.com/product/355499.html
03:01 tonsofpcs you could use crimp terminals (the 'barrel' kind)
03:01 tonsofpcs get the right wire gauge, crimp one end to your wire, slip the other end one
03:01 tonsofpcs *on
03:01 tonsofpcs it's a right-angle version
03:01 Cprossu_Laptop what about this one?
03:01 tonsofpcs wires go in straight, screws on top
03:01 Cprossu_Laptop http://ja.aliexpress.com/product-fm/445153181-Phoenix-Blocks-Connector-3Pin-Male-Female-20-Pack-wholesalers.html
03:02 tonsofpcs there's a name for the barrel crimp terminals...
03:02 tonsofpcs right, the screw tightens a ( shaped piece of metal onto the wire
03:02 Cprossu_Laptop still cool
03:02 tonsofpcs beanies!
03:02 tonsofpcs http://www.pwcis.com/item_details?id=CIS126002.250 <<
03:03 tonsofpcs that's the name for the in-line crimp things
03:03 tonsofpcs should have some around the shop somewhere... find the right size
03:03 tonsofpcs alternately, find two barrier-strip type crimps (either forks or Os)  and solder them together...
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03:03 tonsofpcs (make sure one end fits in)
03:04 tonsofpcs a good electronics store will stock phoenix connectors though
03:04 tonsofpcs 2/3/5/8/10 are common sizes
03:04 Cprossu_Laptop ad
03:05 Cprossu_Laptop back
03:05 Cprossu_Laptop greedy bastards.
03:05 tonsofpcs i mean, you could open it up and just screw and/or solder inside
03:06 tonsofpcs but i doubt you can interface that bus to a PC
03:06 tonsofpcs ewww, don't use 11s
03:06 tonsofpcs use 8pin (45s)
03:06 Cprossu_Laptop hrmmmmm
03:06 tonsofpcs 11s have a tendency to sometimes have a flip in the wire, sometimes not.  45s don't.
03:06 tonsofpcs (on cables)
03:06 Cprossu_Laptop so what can we interface that bus to?
03:06 tonsofpcs well, not directly
03:07 tonsofpcs you can scope probe it.  I'd guess it's a similar interface to what the GRE scanners use
03:07 Cprossu_Laptop I'm banking on no without a venus.
03:07 tonsofpcs which is an oddball one-way 485 variant with no timing and no handshaking
03:07 Cprossu_Laptop but I'll see if I can find a way
03:07 tonsofpcs i doubt it's a one-wire system
03:07 tonsofpcs no, 422 is bidirectional
03:07 Cprossu_Laptop because I'll have to spend some quality time with jupiter configurator
03:08 tonsofpcs also, ad
03:08 tonsofpcs so i can't hear your reply at all
03:08 Cprossu_Laptop he has ad, tggmc
03:08 tonsofpcs back
03:08 Cprossu_Laptop cool
03:08 tonsofpcs i heard nothing after "isn't that 422"
03:08 tonsofpcs tggmc: lost irc...
03:08 Cprossu_Laptop ahhh ok
03:08 Cprossu_Laptop lol
03:08 tonsofpcs right, i got that...
03:08 Cprossu_Laptop + - and s labeled
03:09 tonsofpcs it's balanced
03:09 Cprossu_Laptop k. cool
03:09 tonsofpcs cya tggmc steve
03:09 Cprossu_Laptop BotSteve: tell egrsteve tonsofpcs said it was balanced.
03:09 BotSteve Cprossu_Laptop: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
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03:10 tonsofpcs +/-/S or +/-/D is balanced.
03:10 Cprossu_Laptop good to know.
03:10 Cprossu_Laptop oh let me give you what we had
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03:10 tonsofpcs (or +/-/E or +/-/[groundsymbol])
03:10 tonsofpcs k
03:10 tonsofpcs i'mma go to tv now
03:10 Cprossu_Laptop tonsofpcs ftp://ftp.grassvalley.com/router/20ten/
03:11 tonsofpcs eh, not digging now
03:11 Cprossu_Laptop ^ extracting exe's with BASIC
03:11 Cprossu_Laptop files
03:11 Cprossu_Laptop meant for sample 20-ten control via a pc
03:11 tonsofpcs also, if you want i can make a subdir for those ISOs and you can make a subdir for speed's sample
03:11 tonsofpcs but that's for the ones with RS232 ports, no?
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03:12 tonsofpcs you have a previous generation 20ten controller
03:12 Cprossu_Laptop we might do that after I hit my brain with a gold brick wrapped with a slice of lemon
03:12 tonsofpcs and bacon
03:12 Cprossu_Laptop tonsofpcs: that document
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03:12 injection Don't forget the meat
03:12 Cprossu_Laptop is for like an '86 gvg 20-ten
03:12 Cprossu_Laptop ours is a '94 20-ten
03:13 tonsofpcs it's the controller that matters
03:13 Cprossu_Laptop was there meat in it?
03:13 tonsofpcs BACON
03:13 Cprossu_Laptop .w best drink in the universe
03:13 BotSteve "Zaphod Beeblebrox ( /ˈzeɪfɒd ˈbiːbəlbrɒks/) is a fictional character in the various versions of the humorous science fiction story The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams who based him on his Cambridge contemporary, Johnny Simpson." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaphod_Beeblebrox
03:13 tonsofpcs heh
03:13 Cprossu_Laptop that doesn't help
03:13 Cprossu_Laptop .g best drink in the universe
03:13 BotSteve Cprossu_Laptop: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaphod_Beeblebrox
03:13 Cprossu_Laptop ffffffffff.
03:13 Cprossu_Laptop .w panendemic gargle blaster
03:13 BotSteve Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "panendemic gargle blaster".
03:13 Cprossu_Laptop whatever
03:14 Cprossu_Laptop I spelled it epic-ly wrong
03:14 tonsofpcs 42.
03:15 Cprossu_Laptop the effect of one "is like having your brain smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick."
03:15 Cprossu_Laptop that's what making jupiter configs is like
03:19 tonsofpcs i know
03:19 tonsofpcs but BACON
03:21 tonsofpcs okk, I moved the isos to a subdir, isos.
03:21 tonsofpcs so you can make a dir for speed's stuff
03:22 tonsofpcs i'mma remove the password from the root
03:27 Cprossu cool
03:28 Cprossu and I'll get to that when I get to that I think
03:29 tonsofpcs set root to a blank index.html
03:29 tonsofpcs can make it a link list or something if you want
03:29 Cprossu nah no need for now
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03:47 tonsofpcs hi egrsteve
03:48 egrsteve hello tonsofnetbook
03:48 BotSteve egrsteve: I have the following messages for you:
03:48 BotSteve At 03:09Z, Cprossu_Laptop asked me to tell egrsteve tonsofpcs said it was balanced.
03:48 tonsofpcs egrsteve: did Cprossu send you the info for ISOs?
03:48 egrsteve no, not that I'm aware of
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03:49 astro73|derrial sleepy...
03:49 astro73|derrial I guess that's what happens on a con weekend
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04:01 tonsofpcs that domain comes in handy....
04:01 egrsteve I imagine it does
04:02 egrsteve that your site too?
04:02 tonsofpcs which?
04:02 * tonsofpcs bought onfreenode.net a while ago
04:02 egrsteve videoproductionsupport
04:02 tonsofpcs ya
04:03 Cprossu damn
04:03 tonsofpcs ?
04:03 Cprossu first try compile failed.
04:03 Cprossu I might have to start out fresh it seems
04:04 Cprossu egrsteve yay software hell
04:05 egrsteve only works with fresh builds?
04:05 tonsofpcs and there was much rejoicing
04:05 Cprossu I'm going to give it one more try
04:05 Cprossu without a fresh build
04:09 Cprossu I'm starting to wonder how anyone lived with this... oh wait, they lived with it because the phillips field tech came in, installed it, and they used it blissfully ignorantly of any dangers associated with the back end of it
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04:10 egrsteve thats why the install requirments were PC anyware
04:11 Cprossu lol. I wonder if they kept the mole men underground
04:11 Cprossu who did the remoting
04:12 Cprossu and did they get transfered to gvg or dispensed of?
04:14 tonsofpcs the 20ten is a gvg product
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04:14 tonsofpcs and i doubt it had on-site install
04:14 Cprossu no the saturn people
04:14 tonsofpcs oh
04:14 tonsofpcs noclie
04:14 Cprossu from phillips
04:14 tonsofpcs *clue
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04:18 * dr_jkl compile compile compile
04:20 tonsofpcs http://xkcd.com/303
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04:21 egrsteve tgg needs long compileing fight hallways
04:21 Cprossu hey egrsteve tonsofpcs party line input would be the one I'd use if we attached a 20ten to an input right?
04:22 tonsofpcs huh?
04:22 Cprossu logical inputs
04:22 tonsofpcs not sure what you're talking about
04:22 Cprossu aka these things here could be multiple inputs
04:22 tonsofpcs "party line input" ?
04:22 Cprossu yeah for video
04:23 Cprossu you know how a phone party line works?
04:23 tonsofpcs oh, you're just calling it that
04:23 Cprossu one person talks at a time kind of thing
04:23 Cprossu no
04:23 Cprossu it's literally called
04:23 Cprossu party line input
04:23 tonsofpcs where?
04:23 egrsteve it might be idk
04:23 Cprossu in the software
04:23 tonsofpcs (clearcom and similar intercoms are sometimes called 'party line [systems|interfaces]')
04:24 Cprossu this is in the machine control section
04:24 tonsofpcs i guess
04:24 Cprossu so I am assumint it's relating to VTR's under normal circumstances
04:25 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: VR on AC line weirdness on the scope
04:25 Cprossu party line input, party line output, party line levels, party line description
04:25 Cprossu still needs a control board...damn
04:26 Cprossu_Laptop The protocol specifies the type of protocol used on the party line port.
04:27 Cprossu choices are "Super" and "Extended"
04:27 egrsteve look a the hook up diagram in the manual, i though it showed an external router
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04:29 Cprossu egrsteve that's what the VM 3000 is for
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04:30 Cprossu or maybe not
04:30 Cprossu *confused*
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04:34 Cprossu si 3000 is a control processor
04:34 Cprossu hmmm
04:38 Cprossu egrsteve: I think we need a vm or si 3000 =/
04:38 Cprossu http://www.grassvalley.com/docs/Manuals/routers/jupiter/071-8305-03.pdf
04:39 tonsofpcs I think you need something new, donated :-p
04:39 tonsofpcs or, ya know, a bunch of SDI stuff
04:39 Cprossu the secondary would be much preferable
04:39 tonsofpcs or both!
04:40 Cprossu hey want to laugh,
04:40 Cprossu http://cgi.ebay.com/Philips-Saturn-MCC-3500-D-Console-w-Display-/200609111241
04:40 tonsofpcs ?
04:41 tonsofpcs why funny?
04:41 Cprossu because of how much money someone paid for it at one time
04:41 Cprossu not a single one of those boxes was bought for $875 or even $975
04:42 egrsteve no it was not maybe 8k
04:43 Cprossu 1 control surface, 2 digital video frames, 2 analog audio frames, a backup switcher, a redundant power supply, a machine interface, and a control processor
04:43 dr_jkl and a partridge in a pear treeee
04:44 tonsofpcs redundant PSU was likely < $1k
04:44 Cprossu wow
04:44 Cprossu they didn't mess around with the backup switcher
04:46 tonsofpcs so i've figured out that the apparent video memory issues i'm having are not mobo or RAM related.  Might be SSD related.  More likely software....
04:46 tonsofpcs rebooting
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04:49 tonsofpcs back
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04:52 livefiretj hi
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05:01 livefiretj so anyone on here
05:03 livefiretj * echos*
05:03 Python yup
05:03 livefiretj wheew
05:04 livefiretj thought I might have been band cause of who we shall not name
05:05 * egrsteve opens vpn to freenode and hooks it to thumer
05:05 egrsteve *thumper
05:05 egrsteve in retaliation for mass bankicking
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05:09 livefiretj well I dont care as long as im not band
05:09 livefiretj tgg is a nice resource
05:12 tonsofpcs mass bankicking?
05:12 tonsofpcs you mean the web client thing?
05:15 tonsofpcs http://wt.rs/w/ == editing PC.  (may need a video card that supports the edit software's accel)
05:17 * Python just posted http://thegeekgroup.org/bb/general-chat/wo-33-oscilloscope-repair-help/
05:20 tonsofpcs *looks*
05:21 Cprossu hrmmm
05:21 tonsofpcs Python: try multiple voltage and sweep range settings? maybe dirty switches?
05:21 tonsofpcs also, check probes for continuity
05:21 tonsofpcs (end to end, not through unit)
05:23 * Python sees line noise disappear when probe is connected to GND
05:23 tonsofpcs interesting
05:23 * tonsofpcs needs to nap, meeting in 10 hours a 2 hr drive away
05:23 Python probes are clean
05:23 tonsofpcs (read:  going to syracuse to play with new FCP at apple store)
05:24 tonsofpcs what does gnd connect to inside?
05:24 tonsofpcs what about if you connect probes to each other?
05:24 tonsofpcs any caps bulging?  check electrolytics and diodes....
05:24 Python case and signal gnd
05:24 Python all wax caps
05:25 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: python on WO-33 Oscilloscope Repair Help
05:25 Python I see nothing that looks like a moderen diode in there
05:25 tonsofpcs that's my thoughts so far.  I need a nap.  hopefully you figure it out before i awaken :)
05:26 Cprossu what about the giant lytics?
05:26 Cprossu are they open?
05:26 Cprossu @ Python
05:26 Python electricly ?
05:26 Cprossu yes
05:27 Cprossu or are they shorted?
05:27 Python open
05:27 Cprossu also are you running a lightbulb in series to test?
05:27 Python no
05:27 Python scope powers on fine
05:27 Cprossu does it look like a 60hz wave?
05:28 Cprossu is the chasis hot?
05:28 Cprossu something is at a potential it shouldn't me
05:28 Python only hot when you jiggle the GND binding post
05:28 Cprossu measure between earth ground and the chasis
05:28 Cprossu but be careful obviously
05:29 Cprossu *shouldn't be
05:29 Python it scares me to run it without its case on
05:29 Cprossu so put the case on
05:29 Cprossu still measure between earth ground and the socket ground
05:29 Cprossu but as I said be freaking careful
05:29 Cprossu and make sure you're not in amps mode
05:29 Cprossu lol
05:30 Python last time I measured it was dine
05:30 Python *fine anyways I ground the case while running
05:31 Cprossu well I am just trying to figure out where the potential vs ground is coming from
05:32 Cprossu and you said when you 'ground' it the wave becomes clean?
05:32 Python yes
05:32 Cprossu the question is how is it getting hot?
05:32 Cprossu lets look at our schematics
05:33 Python radio waves , electro-mag noise
05:33 Cprossu no it's gotta be through a failed cap.
05:33 Cprossu or something obvious
05:33 Python what are the signs of a failed wax cap ?
05:34 Python *features
05:34 Cprossu shorted
05:34 Cprossu so in this case check C8 for short, c38C for short, C38B for short, C38D for short, C36 for short
05:35 Cprossu now let me look at the HV part
05:36 * Python is currently looking for and checking caps
05:36 Cprossu do C40 as well
05:37 Cprossu and C41 on the other side
05:38 Python C & B are fine
05:39 Cprossu the resistor network by V4 (12AT7) could also be suspect but test the caps first
05:39 Cprossu Python: I don't read you
05:40 Cprossu where is that on the schematics?
05:41 Cprossu did I already tell you c37?
05:42 Python the labeling is terrible on the scope however I've tested quite a few capacitors, all closes
05:43 Python *clesed
05:43 Cprossu what?!
05:43 Cprossu as in shorted?
05:43 Python non-shorted
05:44 Cprossu so open then
05:44 Python sorry, falling asleep here
05:44 Python 1:44AM
05:44 Cprossu best not to work on a scope asleep
05:44 Cprossu get some rest
05:46 Python what timezone are you in anyways ?
05:48 Python is now known as Python-Away
05:48 Cprossu Python-Away GMT-7
05:48 Python-Away ok
05:49 Cprossu the folks in MI are GMT-4 or -5 depending on the time of the year though
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05:49 Cprossu currently -4 I think
05:49 Python-Away -4 currently
05:55 livefiretj python-away lol
05:55 livefiretj just in case u crash roght
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06:28 livefiretj mah
06:28 livefiretj stupid program
06:31 Cprossu_Laptop OK we're gonna try this again
06:31 * Cprossu_Laptop curls up with a good computer and tries again
06:34 livefiretj ...
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06:51 Cprossu_Laptop egrsteve compile looks good and this time I didn't have to rebuild the damn thing
06:51 Cprossu_Laptop let me see what else I can tweak though
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07:02 Hackbat http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MPVYv0Vj3qE/TfZ3WfbTsLI/AAAAAAAAA3Y/7RL3uCpYdGw/s1600/browser%2Bwar%2Bcopy.jpg
07:04 staccers nice one
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07:23 Cprossu_Laptop oh damn
07:24 Cprossu_Laptop BotSteve: tell egrsteve we are dead in the water to cotrol 20-ten's from the saturn.
07:24 BotSteve Cprossu_Laptop: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
07:25 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: baldbrad on AC line weirdness on the scope
07:25 Cprossu_Laptop BotSteve: according to the vm3000 config sheet, we would need a vm3000 plus a piece of obscure software
07:25 Cprossu_Laptop BotSteve: tell egrsteve according to the vm3000 config sheet, we would need a vm3000 plus a piece of obscure software
07:25 BotSteve Cprossu_Laptop: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
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08:00 Cprossu man I hope this works.
08:02 Thermoelectric Still going at it I assume?
08:07 Thermoelectric Ah well, I'll leave you to it, don't want to waste this *cough* 1gb *cough* of quota...
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08:12 Cprossu ok mc is back up
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08:25 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: VR on Geek Certification Exam.....VR on DARPA contacts?
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08:30 Cprossu ughhh
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08:46 Cprossu BotSteve: tell egrsteve new config is in place, expect some weirdness, looks like we're on output 1 now for the stream and I have no clue why during boot it choses certain signal paths, meh oh well,
08:46 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
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10:31 REDhome Good Morning, Internet. <3
10:42 tonsofpcs hi!
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11:55 Seroster ...
12:09 REDhome Hey Seroster  :)
12:09 Seroster hi REDhome
12:09 REDhome How are you today?
12:10 Seroster Do you want a polite answer or a honest one? =P
12:10 REDhome Either or.
12:10 REDhome I usually prefer honesy though... :p
12:10 Seroster Ever got your labia stuck in the zipper of your pants?
12:11 Seroster Thats about how well I am =P
12:11 REDhome No, and ouch.
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13:12 Bat-Mobile .c 470/28
13:13 BotSteve 16.7857143
13:13 Bat-Mobile thanks botsteve
13:13 BotSteve You're welcome, Bat-Mobile
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13:21 Python-Away thanks botsteve
13:21 BotSteve No problem, Python-Away
13:22 Python-Away thank botsteve you
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13:23 kristopher hi
13:24 Seroster Ho
13:30 tonsofpcs hi ho
13:32 REDhome Meow.
13:33 Python-Away moo
13:33 tonsofpcs so i'm going to the nearest apple store to test FCP X today.  Anything that anyone wants to know?
13:34 REDhome The level of epic?
13:34 REDhome lol
13:35 tonsofpcs REDhome: I'm guessing negative but I will investigate that further.
13:35 REDhome (pouty face).
13:35 kristopher . the level of epic
13:35 kristopher GOOGLE!
13:35 * tonsofpcs has a hypothesis and a test method
13:36 kristopher firts link
13:36 kristopher The term epic level refers to a very high level of play in the Dungeons &
13:36 tonsofpcs that said, I expect the video that I cut with it (yesterday's pig roast) will be mega-epic, so that may offset some negative epicness (if such exists)
13:36 kristopher Dragons fantasy role-playing game
13:36 * tonsofpcs levels up his level 22 ranger/rogue
13:37 REDhome Actually, how does it relate with other programs and is it interchangable, or is it a ONLY FCP X softwar..
13:38 tonsofpcs like new/old versions or like into/out of motion, etc?
13:38 REDhome Basically..compatability..I guess.
13:38 REDhome yeah.
13:38 tonsofpcs btw: http://youtu.be/flGi_kibL6o
13:38 tonsofpcs yeah both?
13:39 * tonsofpcs isn't planning on bringing FCP 8/9 projects with him
13:39 tonsofpcs I wonder if anyone else can...
13:39 tonsofpcs *asks*
13:42 tonsofpcs ""Hmmm I only have FCP 6.....there are so many blogs out there saying you can't use older projects. So I don't think we need to worry about that detail""
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13:50 tonsofpcs anyway, I'm off now.  Cya :)
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13:51 Chrism_ anyone good with digital music interfaces?
13:51 Chrism_ in other words, MIDI stuff?
13:52 Python-Away no
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13:53 Python why ?
13:54 Python .tfw 44256
13:54 BotSteve 65�F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Medina, OH!  'It could be worse.'
13:56 REDhome .tfw 49444
13:56 BotSteve 67�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Muskegon, MI!  'Enjoy.'
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13:56 BotSteve ****Attention on deck!  Captain on the bridge!****
13:57 REDhome Thanks BotSteve
13:57 BotSteve Happy to help, REDhome
13:57 Chrism_ great
13:57 REDhome Hey Chris.
13:57 CaptainBoden RED!
13:57 CaptainBoden I am back on the internets....trying out Chatzilla
13:57 REDhome :)
13:57 Chrism_ Hey RED
13:57 REDhome Yay?
13:57 REDhome lol
13:57 REDhome Hey Chrism_
13:57 CaptainBoden So what's theis Grounded bullshit?
13:58 REDhome Um...I'm going to PM you.
13:58 CaptainBoden k
13:59 Chrism_ so no one here is good with MIDI equipment?
14:02 Python the IRC will be more active towards the end of the day Chrism, try again later
14:03 Chrism_ dam. i'll try but im 7-9 hours ahead here. so that'll be like the middle of the night
14:03 Python where are you located ?
14:03 REDhome Pshh. what is this sleep Chrism_ ? You can stay up ;) I was on IRC at 4:30 this AM. lol.
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14:07 SparkyProjects Chrism_ what do you want to know, i know a little, but i may be able to find the info you need
14:10 SparkyProjects Is the forum down ?
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14:18 Lanther http://www.mwelab.com/en/emperor-200/overview
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14:23 mashpriborintorg hello whoever
14:23 Python is now known as Whoever
14:23 Whoever hello
14:23 mashpriborintorg lol
14:23 SparkyProjects Hi :)
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14:24 Python that name was taken
14:24 mashpriborintorg omg geek orgasm http://ummr.altervista.org/index.html
14:25 mashpriborintorg there are some neat specimens up there
14:25 ynos g'morning all
14:26 REDhome Good Morning! <3
14:26 mashpriborintorg oh hai red
14:26 REDhome hai
14:27 SparkyProjects Mash, i remember something like that Ampex board with all the transistors on :D
14:28 mashpriborintorg do anybody have already dealed with printing issues under MS Remote Desktop Protocol ? it's... shit
14:28 ynos .tfw 49345
14:28 BotSteve 69�F?! ITS FUCKING SEXY TIME IN Sparta, MI!  'Man takes home a chick who works in an Asian restaurant: "Let's 69". Confused, she replies "How do we beef and broccori?"'
14:29 mashpriborintorg sparky, here is a french collector who restores transistor computers, worth to see: http://pichotjm.free.fr/
14:31 SparkyProjects We used to go to a surplus store, they had all sorts of electronic boards, the transistor one was one of them
14:31 SparkyProjects I miss surplus stores
14:41 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 3 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: baldbrad on AC line weirdness on the scope.....VR on Parts and donations - suggested sources.....Electronics on Geek Group Membership Kits- they're here!
14:43 mashpriborintorg yeah, here too, stores that did previously sell surplus do only sell chinese crap by now
14:44 mashpriborintorg however I would like to pick up a vintage "Red lantern" brand chinese radio receiver
14:45 kristopher shit ive missed alot
14:45 mashpriborintorg it's pure unobtainium
14:45 kristopher hey @CaptainBoden
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15:07 Cprossu_Laptop hey good morning all, morning CaptainBoden
15:07 Cprossu_Laptop did you get my message about alternate methods of powering your video cards?
15:09 Cprossu_Laptop morning REDhome~
15:09 Cprossu_Laptop <3
15:10 REDhome Goodmorning Cprossu_Laptop ^_^
15:11 * exor674 hugs REDhome!
15:11 * REDhome gives exor674 a giant hug! <3
15:11 * Cprossu gives REDhome a hug <3
15:12 REDhome <3
15:12 * REDhome hugs Cprossu too!
15:12 Cprossu watching the stream, REDhome?
15:13 Cprossu I can switch to a few cameras now
15:13 Cprossu switching to what was mdh at one point
15:13 Cprossu nope nothing there
15:14 Cprossu so back to mc
15:14 devast8a is now known as devast8a|away
15:14 devast8a|away is now known as devast8a
15:14 exor674 also yaknow, since I am awake at 9am, I should make breakfast for once
15:14 Cprossu good all that's working
15:17 SparkyProjects Cprossu, are you sending command lines each time ?
15:17 SparkyProjects And does the console normally have a remote panel ?
15:17 SparkyProjects You should get a remote panel and be the camera controller during productions :D
15:17 Cprossu lol. ughhh
15:18 Cprossu basically I am using a manual control through the master control PC
15:18 Cprossu this is an ethernet based control
15:18 Cprossu originally I was thinking of using it but we found a manual on the serial bus
15:18 devast8a is now known as devast8a|away
15:18 mashpriborintorg I saw there is a new camera in the cafe
15:18 Cprossu essentially.
15:18 Cprossu I think we've only got 3 feeds into the mc right now
15:19 Cprossu or 4
15:19 Cprossu rather
15:19 SparkyProjects But is it as easy as just pressing a key, or do you have to write a line of command ?
15:19 Cprossu no I am using a piece of badly written software
15:19 REDhome He just uses his mind magic. ;P
15:19 Cprossu that does something
15:19 Cprossu ok 00 Wheatstone, mc
15:19 mashpriborintorg lol I was writing that red
15:19 Cprossu 01 mc overall
15:19 Cprossu 02 nothing yet
15:20 Cprossu actually
15:20 exor674 is that little frame or so of flash because things aren't genlocked, or what?
15:20 Cprossu that's mdh
15:20 mashpriborintorg or dark room
15:20 Cprossu so 2 is mdh
15:20 Cprossu at least it was last night
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15:20 Cprossu 03, however is nothing
15:21 Cprossu 04, 05, 06, 07, nothing
15:21 mashpriborintorg "crst signal missing"
15:21 exor674 I think that's a P?
15:21 mashpriborintorg can't they just say "not video input"
15:21 Cprossu 08, 09, 10, 11, nothing
15:22 Cprossu no, mashpriborintorg that wouldn't be cool.
15:22 Cprossu 12, 13, 14 nothing
15:22 mashpriborintorg not geeky enough
15:22 Cprossu which leads us back to weathercam
15:22 Cprossu no not that, this is all pro gear.
15:22 Cprossu it's gotta be engineering releated
15:23 Cprossu and back to mc 1
15:23 Cprossu I can make some blinkenlights by changing another output as well
15:23 mashpriborintorg so HVL and cafe cams are offline
15:23 Cprossu no they are online
15:23 Cprossu just not hooked into the MC
15:24 mashpriborintorg a feed from the robotics lab will be needed
15:25 Cprossu which one is the robotics lab?
15:25 Cprossu because we're shit out of inputs
15:25 Cprossu and we cant't run the 20-ten
15:25 mashpriborintorg the underground room, with the track, where a video stuff was stocked after the donation
15:25 exor674 ( why is there a visual glitch every so often, anyway )
15:26 mashpriborintorg I don't know what they will do with the "poo-room" and the "sheep-room"
15:26 SparkyProjects The glitch is believed to be the Stream PC, it's going to be rplaced when they get a decent one working
15:26 Cprossu because we have 2 master control cams, 3 mdh cams, 3 studio cams, trolleycam, autopsy cam, 2 lounge cams, 2 high voltage cams, and 2 weather cams.
15:27 Cprossu that's all 16 inputs right there.
15:27 Cprossu SparkyProjects I wouldn't be sure about that
15:27 Cprossu let's do an experiment
15:27 Cprossu switching to wheatstone cam
15:27 SparkyProjects As i said, 'believed'
15:27 Cprossu if it's the streaming pc we should see glitching
15:28 exor674 see, here *I* thought the glitch had to do with the switch, but I didn't see it there
15:28 Cprossu my bet is on camera, camera setting, or cabling.
15:28 exor674 ( and pro-gear shouldn't be doing that, either )
15:28 Cprossu if we don't see a glitch
15:28 mashpriborintorg sticking a cheap duct tape over the missing module makes me cry, a painted aluminium plate is really needed
15:28 Cprossu the cap card is _not_ pro lol
15:29 Cprossu mashpriborintorg: I offered to buy actual modules
15:29 Cprossu ok still glitching
15:29 exor674 Cprossu: the switcher is -- when you were going through every one, I could hae sworn I saw it glitch every time you switched
15:29 Cprossu so it's the hageppauge
15:29 exor674 mighta been coincidence
15:29 exor674 but my theory ws ust proven wrong heh
15:29 Cprossu exor674 that's due to the fact nothing is really in sync
15:29 SparkyProjects I was just goig by what Chris said
15:29 mashpriborintorg how many does such a module cost ?
15:29 Cprossu we are still getting a glitch though
15:29 Cprossu and SparkyProjects
15:30 Cprossu I SENT OVER a motherboard, processor, ram, and a heatsink
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15:30 Cprossu to be used with the BM intensity pro card
15:30 kristopher herro
15:30 Cprossu hello kristopher
15:31 SparkyProjects Yeah, but they need to set aside time to sort it out
15:31 SparkyProjects Linux guy got a dell operational, but the hauppage card (i think) doesn't work with dell
15:31 * mashpriborintorg cooking cakes in a brand new oven yay
15:31 Cprossu no the black magic intensity
15:31 Cprossu doesn't work with dell
15:31 SparkyProjects ah
15:31 Cprossu this is why I sent the phenom 9750, ram, motherboard, and heatsink
15:31 exor674 ( why exactly would dell not like a card anyway? I mean, I don't doubt the fail
15:31 Cprossu get it now, SparkyProjects?
15:32 exor674 but that seems like someone at dell stuck their fingers in their ears and went "la la la la la PCI(e?) spec, I NO READ YOU!"
15:32 Cprossu because the bios is fucked up when it comes to handling PCIE, exor674
15:32 exor674 assuming dell has thier own ... yeah
15:32 Cprossu yeah
15:32 Cprossu and it's more of the fact
15:32 Cprossu they didn't just use the intel bios.
15:32 Cprossu and they farted around and made their own FAILOS
15:33 Cprossu or FAILIOUS
15:33 * mashpriborintorg cooking cakes in a brand new oven yay
15:33 kristopher lol
15:33 kristopher we heard you
15:33 exor674 broken incompitent output system?
15:33 mashpriborintorg sorry
15:33 Cprossu I'm working on it
15:33 exor674 might as well be what BIOS stands for for Dell
15:34 mashpriborintorg I tried to find a PCIE lan adapter in 100BaseT, seems it does not exist, they are all in gigabit
15:34 Cprossu CFiTUWIOS - Constantly Failing in Terrible Unforseen Ways Input Output System
15:35 Cprossu mashpriborintorg why would you want to buy that?
15:35 Cprossu cost?
15:35 Cprossu gigE cards to 100 just fine
15:35 mashpriborintorg because it was intented to be plugged into a wall socket with a know cabling error
15:35 Cprossu and remember, your 100mb ethernet
15:36 Cprossu is actually 12.5MB/s
15:36 Cprossu or so
15:36 mashpriborintorg detected and corrected by 100bt cards, but making Gb cards to fail
15:36 exor674 mashpriborintorg: can you force it to 100 on one end if you must?
15:36 Cprossu ^
15:37 Cprossu or just redo the cable ends?
15:37 mashpriborintorg yeah we broke the wall plug and corrected the error
15:37 Cprossu lol
15:37 exor674 speaking of that
15:37 mashpriborintorg these plus are made to autodestroy if you disassemble them
15:37 exor674 I spent SO LONG checking everything else as to why gig-e wasn't working for me
15:38 exor674 it turned out a *storebought* "gig-e rated" cable was uh
15:38 Cprossu and?
15:38 Cprossu rofl
15:38 exor674 wired totally wrong
15:38 mashpriborintorg needed to replace the whole part
15:38 Cprossu it happens
15:38 exor674 I checked all of my stuff
15:38 Cprossu that's why I make my own cables.
15:38 Cprossu fuck store bought.
15:38 mashpriborintorg half wires were straight, hald were crossed
15:38 Cprossu cat 3 can hold GB
15:38 Cprossu I've done it before
15:38 Cprossu lol
15:39 kristopher who changed the feed?
15:39 Cprossu I did
15:39 kristopher DOO IT AGAIN!!
15:39 Cprossu done.
15:39 kristopher *jumps up and down*
15:39 kristopher yay!
15:39 exor674 I still need to get a second gige switch, though. Nrr, I think those have gone down in price though now so
15:39 Cprossu nice day out too
15:39 SparkyProjects Kristopher is easily entertained :D
15:40 Cprossu exor674 I paid around $200 for my 16 port netgear rackmounted one
15:40 mashpriborintorg give him a tv remote :D
15:40 Cprossu I felt good about that
15:40 REDhome ^_^
15:40 REDhome Meow.
15:40 kristopher put the cam on outside
15:40 Cprossu hey REDhome!
15:40 REDhome Yes Cprossu ?
15:40 Obtuse_lappy stream is not smooth. cars move from spot a to spot b and not between.
15:40 * exor674 scritches REDhome and gives her some catnip
15:41 Cprossu back to MC.
15:41 kristopher whered all the cars in the carpark go?
15:41 Cprossu Obtuse_lappy your end I think
15:41 mashpriborintorg I found a great 8 port Netgear for 4 euros in a fleamarket, with a few cat5 cables
15:41 Obtuse_lappy wouldn't suprise me
15:41 Cprossu (watches again
15:41 mashpriborintorg it works great, great deal
15:41 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 6 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Alphageek on AC line weirdness on the scope.....technowizard on Howdy from Boston.....technowizard on New England / Boston area swap fest, Flea at MIT.....Sparky Projects on WO-33 Oscilloscope Repair Help.....python on WO-33 Oscilloscope Repair Help.....Radioactive on WO-33 Oscilloscope Repair Help
15:41 Cprossu yeah Obtuse_lappy try hitting pause and play to the left of volume,
15:41 Obtuse_lappy COMCraptist
15:42 Cprossu you know I rip on "cocks" a lot but at least they aren't comcast yet
15:42 Obtuse_lappy So glad I found this trackball mouse
15:42 kristopher REDhome are you going to teh lab?
15:42 Cprossu I'm gonna do a traceroute and make sure everything's happy
15:42 REDhome not today.
15:42 kristopher or is anyone really?
15:43 REDhome not usually.
15:43 Cprossu I think I saw corey there
15:43 exor674 hee, looks like you are playing around in the command line Cprossu :P
15:43 Obtuse_lappy on a sunday its usually just captain and a few others for a little bit
15:43 kristopher why do you keep all the lights on upstairs?
15:43 Cprossu exor, didn't you read?
15:43 exor674 ah no lol
15:43 REDhome security.
15:43 exor674 I think my brain globbed that into BotSteve's line
15:44 Cprossu actually REDhome the lights were off last night
15:44 Cprossu so someone turned em on
15:44 mashpriborintorg Seems there is a TGG video on the cook, the yt channel did climb up yesterday
15:44 exor674 eek a person!
15:44 Obtuse_lappy ah Liz is there
15:44 kristopher REDhome does moose still use her ugly cup from the gaylord video?
15:44 kristopher OMG A PEOPLES!
15:44 REDhome idk if she uses it, but it's her favorite mug..
15:44 Cprossu yay liz
15:44 kristopher YAYS
15:44 kristopher LOL
15:45 kristopher thats funny
15:45 Cprossu still dark in this room
15:45 kristopher we found a cup like that at our lodge, it was shit brown with swirls in it. we put it in the fire and it exploded
15:45 mashpriborintorg it's a 70's mug I believe, looks like wallpapers from this era
15:46 mashpriborintorg maybe some fellow collectors should give a lot of money for it
15:47 mashpriborintorg maybe it is the only mug of this kind in the world :D
15:47 kristopher mabye
15:48 kristopher NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
15:49 kristopher DODODODODODODODOOODODODODOODODODODODODODODOD
15:49 Obtuse_lappy Hi LIz
15:49 kristopher talk to us
15:49 Cprossu the tggmc isn't on
15:49 Obtuse_lappy ah
15:49 kristopher then turn it on
15:49 kristopher you can do that
15:49 kristopher cant you?
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15:50 * Cprossu waits
15:50 kristopher http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHOBw6XwqRo
15:51 Cprossu I put a message up for her if she travels by
15:51 Obtuse_lappy lol. you're the ghost in the machine
15:51 kristopher lols
15:51 kristopher yays
15:52 REDhome ...some kind of octopus.
15:52 Cprossu who else says hi to liz?
15:52 Obtuse_lappy I think about this sometimes... what if you die, but you have a script that sends twitter updates after you're dead
15:53 Obtuse_lappy fuck with people and be like "I'm at the pearly gates, Peter doesn't know if i should come in."
15:53 ynos is now known as ynos|motorcylin
15:54 Obtuse_lappy he says i need a timeout in purgatory to think about what i've done
15:54 Obtuse_lappy then later be like , time out wasn't effective, hello hot weather
15:54 Cprossu Hey liz, IRC on
15:54 Cprossu <- that computer has gone offline
15:54 Cprossu obstuse, kristopher,
15:54 Cprossu cprossu and red say hi,
15:54 Cprossu exor674 however said 'eek
15:54 Cprossu a person!'
15:55 Cprossu wow fail
15:55 Cprossu I need spellcheck
15:55 Cprossu obtuse, fixed your name lol
16:01 Obtuse_lappy haha
16:01 Cprossu awwww
16:01 Cprossu she took away remote
16:01 Obtuse_lappy was she never informed that you just live inside that machine?
16:03 Cprossu well so much for that
16:09 Obtuse_lappy man fuck ustream
16:10 Obtuse_lappy fucking ads
16:11 SparkyProjects I can see a lot of people leaving ustream once they find another provider, the ustream forums are starting to reflect that opinion
16:11 Obtuse_lappy I understand ads are neccesary for them to make revenue
16:11 Obtuse_lappy but now they just happen randomly
16:12 Obtuse_lappy someone could be in the middle of explaining something and you'll miss it
16:13 SparkyProjects I understand that too, i have no objection to the top ad or the lower third ad that pops up, or even an ad at the start of a connection, but to have ads in the middle of a show is very annoying, especially as you have no control of the volume (i sometimes have low vol on ustream while watching yt vids)
16:14 SparkyProjects Exactly, missing an important step in a tutorial can be dangerous
16:19 livefiretj obtuse- I just use ad blocker plus, no ads
16:24 SparkyProjects I'm volunteer staff on a forum providers support board, they rely on ads or ad-free revenue, it would not be good for me to block ads
16:24 eadthem my aditude is i block ads by domain at my firewall that cause problems
16:25 eadthem all others go thrue
16:25 livefiretj I understand the needs of ads sparkyprojects, I just was providing an alternitive for the ones who get annyoded by them
16:26 eadthem if ustream wants ads in the middle then it needs to say  give a 10 or 5 min window for the broadcaster to instert the ad  before it forces it
16:26 livefiretj I just used the ad blocker for fire fox add ons, simple and thoughtless
16:27 livefiretj if you truly hate them dont use ustream, plain and simple
16:28 SparkyProjects eadthem, i  thought that would be a good way too, but the broadcaster would need to know and time it properly, TGG is a 5 second delay, my test account  is a lot more
16:28 SparkyProjects I wouldn't use ustream if it wasn't for tgg using it :P
16:29 mashpriborintorg same for me, I didn't even know it
16:29 livefiretj at lease its not gliching anymore
16:30 eadthem SparkyProjects  well thats not hard to get around
16:31 eadthem the broadcast software would sound off or display a message or somethign      then the broadcaster has 5 or 10 min to insert it
16:31 eadthem wherever its inserted thats where the flag is placed in the video stream for it
16:32 eadthem when the ustream server hits the flag is plays the ad   and when the clients see the ad flag  it transforms it in to a link
16:32 eadthem it is not hard to make it work right
16:32 eadthem hows youtube live broadcasting work btw?
16:33 Cprossu we're workin on it you know =P
16:33 eadthem or is that just a special thing
16:33 eadthem well of corse  ustream pepole would have to do it   i doubht theres anything tgg can do to fix the ads
16:33 eadthem other than a diffrent provider
16:33 Cprossu that's why we're dumping them.
16:34 eadthem kinda sad to see ustream shoot them selves in the head like this
16:34 eadthem cant say im suprised they tryed it
16:34 Cprossu it wouldn't be the first time, eadthem
16:34 Cprossu they started out by first cutting those who loved it out of monies raised from ads
16:34 eadthem when ya think about it    hulu  youtube  ustream   what motavation do they have to keep things working flawlessly    when every reconnect displays the ads all over agan
16:35 eadthem thats why i stopped messing around with hulu    pritty shure in the end all the bugs and dropped streams from them wer fully intentional
16:35 eadthem when ya think about it  they get payed more for crappyness
16:35 Obtuse_lappy Hulu plus costs 8 bucks and you still watch ads
16:36 eadthem so what about a torrent style live distroubution
16:37 eadthem tgg could host it directly   it would of corse have more delay    and i dont know if anyones created it
16:37 Cprossu eadthem because that wouldn't work very well
16:37 Cprossu think of the dynamic latencies involved
16:37 eadthem flash dose it
16:37 Cprossu yeah I know it does
16:37 Cprossu but it's not a good idea
16:37 Cprossu =(
16:37 SparkyProjects There's ways to host it on your own server, whether that is a server located at LSL or a remote server, they are looking at options for doing this
16:37 eadthem granted you cant tell where the torrent based distrubution in flash screws up and where its just adobe shittyness
16:38 Cprossu like I said, we are working on it.
16:38 Cprossu so chill for now heh
16:38 Obtuse_lappy bandwidth cost would be way too much if TGG did direct broadcast
16:38 Obtuse_lappy yea
16:38 eadthem thats why i sugested a torrent type system   if one exist
16:38 Cprossu no it's not the bw cost that we'd worry about
16:38 Obtuse_lappy really?
16:38 Cprossu it's more of a case of the internet connection we'd need
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16:39 Obtuse_lappy ah
16:39 Cprossu figure it out, we're on comcast at the lab
16:39 Cprossu that last part ain't happening any time soon
16:39 Obtuse_lappy which is meh
16:40 Cprossu at 450KB/sec up per client,
16:40 Cprossu *Kbit/sec
16:40 Cprossu there's not much room there
16:40 Obtuse_lappy yea
16:41 eadthem well there is a radio soluton using torrent     but nothing for video
16:41 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 4 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: VR on AC line weirdness on the scope.....obtuse on Power Wheels Robot.....python on WO-33 Oscilloscope Repair Help.....jaaz95 on done with the fusor time for something new.. hmmmm. how about a cyclotron
16:45 SparkyProjects Cprossu, several sites use the webview livescope, they host on their ow website, and that allows viewer control of a camera, surely there's an easy way to do something similar for live broadcast (not the control) (i know there's a lot of softwware available), a remote server seems to be the best option as tgg wouldn't need to do anything different than what they already do, just that it's their own server and no
16:45 staccers hi guys.. uuhm.. im searching for a 72volt DC motor, do someone know where to look? cheep ones :)
16:46 REDhome This is what I did today... http://www.flickr.com/photos/dawnboertman/5872986435/in/photostream/ (played with the remote shutter release Miss Moose gave me.) ^_^
16:47 Cprossu yay! you have a shutter release!
16:48 exor674 REDhome: yay!
16:48 REDhome :)
16:49 exor674 ( I totally wish I had a shutter release thing, it's really really hard to shoot yourself in the face with a dslr )
16:49 exor674 well, and make it look good
16:49 Seroster Omnomnompizzaomnomnom
16:49 Cprossu liz took away my control, so now we're stuck looking at weathercam =(
16:49 Cprossu sorry guys
16:50 Seroster Aww
16:50 Seroster You got remote control on the cams?
16:50 Cprossu no
16:50 Cprossu just remote control of the feeds
16:50 Cprossu well nothing now
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16:50 Seroster Same shit for the laidman =P
16:52 Seroster A bit like the difference between an aligator and a crocodile, it's a big heavy thing with a huge mouth with a crapload of teeth and they eat people.
16:54 livefiretj lol
16:55 Seroster What? It's true =P
16:56 Seroster Oe the difference between a cougar and a bobcat, furry animal, four legs, tail, larger than a housecat but smaller than a lion.
16:57 Seroster Or hay vs straw, any city person would point at a pile of either and say "Look, a haybale!"
16:58 REDhome lol
16:59 REDhome That's very true. Silly city folks.
16:59 Seroster Or a fluorecent bulb vs an incadecent, You screw it into a socket and you get light
16:59 Lanther Seroster: to be fair, from a distance hay and straw look pretty much the same
17:00 Seroster Lanther, So does crocks and gators xD
17:00 Lanther gators and crocs are easy to tell apart from a distance though
17:00 Lanther mostly because they don't tend to share territory
17:00 Seroster Lanther, Mind that I live in a country without either one. =P
17:00 Lanther and cougars and bobcats look reeeeeeally different. they both live around here
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17:01 Seroster Or the difference between industrial hemp and cannabis (I've seen folks get high of birdfeed hemp. lol)
17:13 REDhome ....best storage unit for stickers?
17:14 livefiretj soap box
17:14 SparkyProjects Photo album ?
17:15 Cprossu 120 60HZ, 250 50HZ, what's the difference? both have cycles and hertz and plugs (plugs a power supply wired for 120/60 into a 250/50) * BOOM *
17:16 SparkyProjects ??? Cprossu
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17:16 Seroster REDhome, garbage bag?
17:17 REDhome Gasp, Seroster !
17:18 REDhome i was thinking cigar box...but i dont' know where to find old, empty ones...
17:18 Seroster Goodwill
17:18 Seroster Pawn shop
17:18 Seroster Ebay
17:18 Seroster Craigslist
17:19 REDhome No garbage bag :(
17:20 SparkyProjects Get someone in the tgg woodshop to cut you some wood pieces, you can glue them together and decorate how you want, hinge can be  cloth tape (duct tape works too)
17:20 Seroster SparkyProjects, I might be old fashion, but wouldnt a... Hinge work great as a hinge? =D
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17:20 REDhome ^_^
17:20 REDhome lol.
17:21 REDhome I could make myself boxes out of wood too...
17:21 eadthem hey quick thought   you know the vent in the back corner of a electric oven that coems up in the center of 1 of the burners      im trying to season a cast iron pan    is there any issues with blocking that vent to keep the smoke in the oven
17:21 eadthem ?
17:21 REDhome that was my other thought....but idk, I was hoping for something more creative.
17:21 SparkyProjects Only the expensive cigar boxes have actual hinges iirc
17:21 Seroster True
17:22 Seroster REDhome, storage how, as a collection (then just stick them on pages in a diary or whatever) or as a working storage unit (in that case a cardboard box will suffice) - Or the third option, still on their wax paper but in a nice box?
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17:24 REDhome I have a stack of unused stickers...and them just sitting on my desk isn't working.
17:24 REDhome lol.
17:24 SparkyProjects eadthem, only problem may be overheating, or if that makes the oven airtight, it could presurise, the thermostat should cotrol temperature
17:24 Vladdeh .tfw worcester, uk
17:24 Seroster REDhome, cardboard!
17:24 BotSteve 82�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Worcester, Worcestershire, !  'HOLY FUCK'
17:24 SparkyProjects Vent is mainly for letting out cooking smells
17:24 eadthem ya was thinking of just setting a ball of aluminum foil on the vent to reduce the smoke let out  but not to accualy stop all venting
17:25 SparkyProjects You should be ok then, just keep a close eye on things
17:25 Seroster Sounds about right
17:25 Seroster How does the oven open/close?
17:25 eadthem ya im takeing the temp up slowly
17:25 eadthem Seroster like a normal oven
17:25 Seroster do you have to push a lever to make it open or is it just pulling?
17:25 REDhome ^_^
17:26 eadthem nope   just a normal GE oven
17:26 eadthem part of a electric range
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17:26 Seroster If it is the former and pressure builds you might be in for a rough night. If it is the latter you'll be fine no matter how much pressure builds, it will just push the door open and let the steam out =P
17:26 REDhome Okay, the other thing cluttering up my desk. What about storage for little army men?
17:26 REDhome ...and dinosaurs...
17:26 REDhome ^_^
17:26 Seroster REDhome, Garb... =D
17:26 eadthem sorry not GE   whirlpool
17:27 Seroster I hate WP
17:27 eadthem ya i wasnt worred about over pressure
17:27 REDhome NO Seroster NOOOOO
17:27 eadthem i could see that maby being a issue in the self cleanign mode however
17:27 REDhome NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
17:27 Cprossu_ what the hell did I miss?!
17:27 REDhome ...no.
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17:27 SparkyProjects Redhome something like this http://jbburrows.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/thimble-shelf.jpg
17:28 REDhome ^_^
17:28 Seroster REDhome, do you want them on display or just out of your way but not throwing away?
17:28 REDhome Right now i have a bunch on top of my photo frames for display. but there are too many.
17:28 REDhome I want storage that ISN'T a garbage bag.
17:28 Seroster Get a nice piece of wood (could even be a treebranch) - bluetack your toys to it and hang the branch on the wall
17:28 REDhome Mister "I'm going to have Red throw away all of her fun shit"
17:28 REDhome Meow!
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17:31 livefiretj you could always use a shoe box
17:33 REDhome I would need to you know...buy shoes in order to have a shoe box. lol
17:33 livefiretj well any box really
17:36 mashpriborintorg in my case, lots of cardboard boxes, filled with collectibles stuff, hopefully everything is inventoried in an excel file
17:37 REDhome inventoried...
17:37 mashpriborintorg it makes 50 boxes I believe
17:37 REDhome with what free time will i do that?
17:37 REDhome lol
17:37 REDhome :)
17:38 mashpriborintorg + the thinks that are too bulky for getting into boxes + things in glass display shelve in my living room +....
17:38 mashpriborintorg just for (broken) digital cameras, I have 100 of them
17:39 mashpriborintorg and it is my least important collection
17:40 REDhome least important?
17:40 REDhome :'(
17:40 Seroster mashpriborintorg, I have about a half a tonne of metals in my 2 by 3 meter closet =P
17:40 Seroster REDhome, what camera you got?=
17:40 REDhome Canon 60D <3
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17:40 Seroster :c
17:40 Seroster Yer a canoner?
17:41 livefiretj you are becoming a hoarder
17:41 Seroster ...I thought you loved me! But it was all for the money, wasnt it, red?
17:41 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 3 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: VR on Old breadboard power supply question.....Sparky Projects on WO-33 Oscilloscope Repair Help.....VR on Howdy from Boston
17:42 livefiretj arnt you from sweden?
17:42 Seroster Sure am
17:42 livefiretj kinda far for love
17:42 livefiretj real far
17:42 Seroster Swedish currency is going up compared to the ussd
17:42 Seroster livefiretj, I have a gay relationship with batsteve too
17:42 livefiretj but is it compareable to ussd
17:42 Seroster Not to mention my acutal fianc� that is next to me in the sofa
17:42 livefiretj ok kinky
17:43 REDhome ...I'm so confused.
17:43 REDhome I think I may have missed something.
17:43 Seroster I had a thing going with thermoelectric too, but he aint got the age
17:43 livefiretj so is mine shhh
17:43 livefiretj lol
17:43 Seroster REDhome, you use a Canon, we can never be together...
17:43 mashpriborintorg http://sylvainm.free.fr/vitrine/
17:43 REDhome I use a Nikon too, dear.
17:43 REDhome Canon is just my main.
17:43 mashpriborintorg ^old photos from my living room setup
17:43 REDhome And I'm really not worried about us being together. lol.
17:44 Seroster lol
17:44 REDhome I don't prejudice against camera brands...they're just brands.
17:44 livefiretj oh those look cool
17:44 Seroster Indeed
17:44 Seroster But I'm bias towards Nikon in the field
17:44 REDhome :p
17:44 livefiretj nice display
17:44 mashpriborintorg the expert eyes may seen VERY special things
17:45 livefiretj oh is captin here?
17:46 Seroster Was a while ago
17:46 Seroster CaptainBoden, *highlights*  I think someone wants to stroke your hairy chest
17:46 mashpriborintorg Red, at consumer prices, only Nikon, Canon, Olymus, Panasonic are correct
17:46 mashpriborintorg + Sony
17:46 mashpriborintorg all other brands are crap
17:47 Seroster mashpriborintorg, there are other? =P
17:47 mashpriborintorg and it does not mean that these brands do not make crap also
17:47 mashpriborintorg samsung, kodak,.... hp :-p
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17:47 Seroster mashpriborintorg, Did you say HP?
17:48 Seroster Those retards learnt how to make camreas too?
17:48 Seroster Couldnt they just stick to making garbage printers?
17:48 mashpriborintorg yeah... ot put their name on chinese cameras
17:48 mashpriborintorg real crap
17:49 REDhome There is also Hasselblad. <3
17:49 REDhome and minolta.
17:49 REDhome and many others.
17:49 mashpriborintorg Hasselblad is not in the competition XD
17:49 mashpriborintorg Minolta stopped making cameras
17:49 Seroster Minolta was kick ass
17:50 mashpriborintorg Ricoh are not so bad btw
17:50 Seroster Never used
17:50 mashpriborintorg the KR-10 analog SLR was an incredible good thing
17:51 mashpriborintorg very sturdy
17:51 REDhome Meow
17:51 REDhome ‎...some kind of Octopus. ♥
17:52 Seroster Dinner?
17:52 mashpriborintorg om mom mom octopus sushis
17:52 Seroster Sushi. Ew.
17:53 Seroster The only meat you should EVER eat raw is the kind that once said "Moo"
17:53 REDhome agree, Seroster
17:53 SparkyProjects I used to have a Minolta 110 slr zoom, great little camera, even worked for a few years after a dunking in a swimming pool, but i guess the mechanics rusted with the chemical eventually, looked like this one http://www.flickr.com/photos/monkeyc/74712528/
17:54 REDhome i like.
17:54 REDhome Does anyone else here have a FlickR account, by the way?
17:54 Seroster Damn SparkyProjects
17:54 Seroster How old are you?
17:55 SparkyProjects That camera used a 100 film cartridge
17:55 SparkyProjects Seroster, i'm 55
17:55 SparkyProjects i have flickr
17:55 mashpriborintorg me, REDhome  http://www.flickr.com/photos/64683169@N00/
17:55 Seroster Do you remember where you were when you got the news the titanic sank? =P
17:55 Cprossu_Netbook OMG OMG OMG
17:55 Cprossu_Netbook http://www.logitech.com/en-us/gaming/mice-keyboard-combos/devices/optical-gaming-mouse-g400
17:55 Cprossu_Netbook ^ THEY LISTENED!!
17:55 SparkyProjects Hardly use it at the moment
17:55 Cprossu_Netbook I can finally retire my mx500 possibly!
17:56 Seroster Eh?
17:56 * Cprossu_Netbook checks his fry's electronics store
17:56 REDhome SparkyProjects: what's your FlickR account?
17:56 Cprossu_Netbook damn they don't carry it!
17:57 REDhome mashpriborintorg: You're now one of my contacts on Flickr. ♥
17:58 mashpriborintorg yay
17:59 SparkyProjects Redhome http://www.flickr.com/photos/57438232@N02/
17:59 Obtuse_lappy I'm a picasa man
17:59 REDhome SparkyProjects: You're now one of my contacts on Flickr. ♥
18:00 SparkyProjects :)
18:00 Obtuse_lappy here's my vegas vacation photos ... https://picasaweb.google.com/astruve/VegasVacation
18:01 SparkyProjects I don't like picassa, it wants to organise all my images, i just want certain ones organised
18:02 SparkyProjects Like it wants to organise images on C drive, but i want selectd ones on D drive
18:04 SparkyProjects I've actually got 2 flickr accounts, here's the other one http://www.flickr.com/photos/naked-perspective/4217539128/
18:06 SparkyProjects One of the snow photos was chosen for 'schmapp'
18:09 livefiretj naked perspective... you didnt shoot theses...
18:09 REDhome 0.o?
18:09 livefiretj what sp named his album
18:09 SparkyProjects That's my photography site, just a hobby at the moment
18:09 livefiretj oh ok
18:14 Cprossu_Netbook .tfw 85021
18:14 BotSteve 103�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'Time to crank the AC.'
18:14 SparkyProjects livefiretj, if you look at 'valley view 3' on my np account, then click the link below, that's the house i used to own, pan round to see the same view as photo, except i was in top window when i took it
18:14 SparkyProjects http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=blaengwynfi&amp;hl=en&amp;ll=51.657276,-3.604149&amp;spn=0,0.007135&amp;gl=uk&amp;z=17&amp;layer=c&amp;cbll=51.657371,-3.604058&amp;panoid=yaoO3suaFXdAoUMPrjb0tw&amp;cbp=12,56.92,,0,7.71
18:14 * mashpriborintorg has picked up a computer CRT display while walking with the dog... oh no... needs to hide it before wife see it (and  disapproves it)
18:15 mashpriborintorg it will hopefully be teared down for parts
18:16 REDhome .tfw 49444
18:16 BotSteve 80�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Muskegon, MI!  'I recommend staying away from fat people.'
18:16 REDhome Thanks BotSteve
18:16 BotSteve You're welcome, REDhome
18:30 REDhome hello?
18:30 REDhome who killed chat?
18:30 SparkyProjects Botsteve did :D
18:30 REDhome Oh NO.
18:30 REDhome BotSteve: You're naughty.
18:30 REDhome Killing chat.
18:31 SparkyProjects He was the last to reply, so
18:31 REDhome Naughty Bot.
18:35 Lanther is it bad that Dr Wily is what inspired me to get into microcontrollers?
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18:37 SparkyProjects Red, when you or Moose have a chance, one of you should take a photo of the wheatstone mxer with the lights illuminated, like this screencap i did
18:37 SparkyProjects https://3541993209959372195-a-1802744773732722657-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/tggscreencaps/misc-captures/consolelight.jpg?attachauth=ANoY7cqprDyOynQm_iGGg97zj0yqgFjnJQw9vfomuYtLBMSOd1DvDWsMtRRXVyaMBCQ5bGDg1gBmPWLnI_OMBsT59cbFhUFePhmNRuy7cW627aGUZKeg17SyGTD8FHeuABExNnWx2Q6eTji1IMw7rl3whZdqnPX5y9J7S694FDEk_K9dNWx9weK01I9JhNR_x1G6OBwmj8LTTYhyAq5LJAJCEUfyLLYwVlTCmqiidS2fsAZr7I0wspM%3D&amp;attredirects=0
18:37 SparkyProjects oops, long url :P
18:39 REDhome Maybe, if I remember, lol.
18:41 Druidic_Rifleman wasn't me
18:41 Druidic_Rifleman Hey red
18:41 * Druidic_Rifleman Hugs REDhome
18:42 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: VR on Industrial servo motor thread......VR on vacuum in air
18:42 REDhome ::hugs::
18:47 Druidic_Rifleman Soooo i saw a chick at a club last night i swear she looked like Asajj Ventress from star wars...
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18:49 speedrunnerG55 Hi
18:49 Cprossu_Netbook sorry about that on a warranty call
18:50 Cprossu_Netbook lol
18:50 REDhome Hai.
18:50 speedrunnerG55 Oh hi red
18:51 Cprossu_Netbook hey REDhome!
18:51 speedrunnerG55 Hey Cprossu_Netbook
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18:52 speedrunnerG55 Cprossu_Netbook: My design is takking two forms. One is password protected one isnt
18:53 Cprossu_Netbook do not worry about it
18:53 speedrunnerG55 Also. Im thinking the web x interface. Should that be seperate. Like when you chose it. It will take you to a seperat menue
18:53 speedrunnerG55 Or what
18:53 Cprossu_Netbook just make the interface
18:53 speedrunnerG55 Ok?
18:53 Cprossu_Netbook moose and friends will take care of the rest
18:53 speedrunnerG55 Ok. Lol
18:54 Cprossu_Netbook don't bite off more than you can chew or anything outside your expertise level
18:54 Cprossu_Netbook something modular is best
18:54 speedrunnerG55 Lol.
18:54 Cprossu_Netbook as in could be integrated into any webpage
18:54 Cprossu_Netbook get my thinking?
18:54 speedrunnerG55 Not really
18:55 speedrunnerG55 You mean its not going to be its own page?
18:55 speedrunnerG55 ...crud
18:55 Cprossu_Netbook nope
18:55 Cprossu_Netbook it's going to be integrated into tgg site
18:55 Cprossu_Netbook so you can login
18:55 speedrunnerG55 Imah have to change a few things hen
18:55 Cprossu_Netbook ok,
18:55 speedrunnerG55 Then^
18:55 Cprossu_Netbook take away the banner too
18:55 speedrunnerG55 Ok
18:55 Cprossu_Netbook but still a seemless integration would be cool, no?
18:56 speedrunnerG55 Like i added more borders to it
18:56 Cprossu_Netbook ahh I see, yeah you can remove that
18:56 Cprossu_Netbook my idea is that they will likely use a frame for it
18:56 Cprossu_Netbook coupled with some sort of level protection
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18:57 Cprossu_Netbook uh oh.
18:57 * Cprossu_Netbook slaps Cprossu_Laptop around a bit with a Cprossu
18:57 REDhome ?
18:57 Cprossu_Netbook I hate it when they cut out like that
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18:59 REDhome botsteve: tell BatSteve-Away that I miss his face...
18:59 BotSteve REDhome: I'll pass that on when BatSteve-Away is around.
19:00 Toastdude REDhome!
19:00 speedrunnerG55 O_o
19:00 Toastdude HI
19:00 speedrunnerG55 His face?
19:00 Toastdude Hi speedrunner!
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19:00 speedrunnerG55 ...anyho. Hi Toastdude
19:00 speedrunnerG55 And Cprossu_Netbook what about the wether camera controols
19:00 REDhome Hey toast <3
19:01 Cprossu_Netbook speedrunnerG55:  leave a space for a webcam 'frame'
19:02 speedrunnerG55 Like under it?
19:03 Cprossu_Netbook put the weathercam control underneath the input matrix, put the frame to the right of the controls for the weathercam
19:03 Cprossu_Netbook center the controls with the frame
19:04 speedrunnerG55 Frame?
19:04 Cprossu_Netbook <-^->   [wiper]     [weathercam video frame]
19:04 speedrunnerG55 Oh the camera video itself?
19:04 speedrunnerG55 Ok
19:04 Cprossu_Netbook controlling a weathercam is pointless without video to see where you pointed it right?
19:05 speedrunnerG55 Lol ye
19:05 Cprossu_Netbook something with <2s delay
19:07 Toastdude Hi Cprossu_Netbook
19:07 Phu evening
19:07 Toastdude Hi Phu
19:09 REDhome Hey Phu :)
19:09 * speedrunnerG55 pokes red
19:09 speedrunnerG55 Hi Phu
19:10 speedrunnerG55 Imah have to brush up of my frame tags
19:10 speedrunnerG55 That means its going to be 3 html docs?
19:11 speedrunnerG55 ...no wait....
19:11 Cprossu hey Toastdude
19:11 livefiretj pokes speed runner
19:12 speedrunnerG55 index.htm inputs.htm controlls.htm and frame.htm
19:12 speedrunnerG55 That makes 4
19:16 Seroster Get me some nice music
19:16 Cprossu_Netbook woop
19:16 Cprossu_Netbook lol
19:16 speedrunnerG55 Seroster: ?
19:16 Seroster Think skrillex, rammstein, Kamelot, Dimmu Borgir, Hot butter, Lemmings
19:17 speedrunnerG55 Seroster: Meep spin
19:17 Seroster GFUS! =P
19:17 Cprossu_Netbook bt you can dump it all on the same frame you know, speedrunnerG55
19:17 Cprossu_Netbook *but
19:17 speedrunnerG55 Ok
19:17 speedrunnerG55 Dump all the web controlls?
19:17 Cprossu_Netbook it in one frame.
19:17 Cprossu_Netbook then that frame gets used in tgg website
19:18 speedrunnerG55 So everything in a frame...
19:18 Cprossu_Netbook yep
19:26 speedrunnerG55 ...dosent the index page or w/e the frame is going ito target the frame html doc. So. Im forgetting. Do i need a frame tag arouund everything?
19:27 Cprossu_Netbook don't worry about tagging
19:28 Cprossu_Netbook that's for the site using the frame
19:28 Cprossu_Netbook in other words not your prob!
19:28 REDhome ...meep.
19:28 Cprossu_Netbook meep! hey REDhome
19:28 Cprossu_Netbook anything happening in the stream?
19:28 REDhome Hey darlin'
19:28 REDhome I dunno. I'm not watching it.
19:28 Cprossu_Netbook I haven't looked in hours
19:29 speedrunnerG55 Thats what i thought
19:29 Cprossu_Netbook I get to buy a new mouse today!
19:29 speedrunnerG55 So im designing it to be in a frame but not literaly whihin a frame tag
19:29 speedrunnerG55 That was confusing me
19:30 Cprossu_Netbook yeah just make it a standard html without any borders
19:30 Cprossu_Netbook so  it can be inserted as a frame
19:30 Cprossu_Netbook get the idea now?
19:30 Cprossu_Netbook simple rocks.
19:30 Cprossu_Netbook so in this case apache will be running on the control box
19:31 Cprossu_Netbook and the frame insert will come from that server
19:31 speedrunnerG55 Yes
19:31 Cprossu_Netbook even though the website is on dreamhost.
19:31 Cprossu_Netbook that's the general idea
19:31 speedrunnerG55 Dreamhost,
19:32 speedrunnerG55 ?
19:33 speedrunnerG55 I just noticed
19:34 speedrunnerG55 I alreaddy have a vertion with no borders
19:34 speedrunnerG55 When i was designing it. The index was going to target a password page then the controlls
19:35 speedrunnerG55 So ill just work on controlls
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19:40 Cprossu_Netbook web irc is fail.
19:40 Cprossu_Netbook lol
19:40 Phu .tfwc Portsmouth, UK
19:40 BotSteve 22�C?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Portsmouth, Portsmouth, !  'READ A FUCKIN' BOOK'
19:41 Phu + another 8 degrees for the temp in here
19:41 Phu hot as hell.
19:42 Cprossu_Netbook that's not hot =P
19:42 Cprossu_Netbook .tfwc 85021
19:42 BotSteve 40�C?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'TAKE IT OFF!'
19:42 Cprossu_Netbook @ Phu
19:43 Phu ok yeah, you win :P
19:43 Cprossu_Netbook it's only 12:43 too
19:43 speedrunnerG55 ...
19:43 Phu but you're used to hell paying a visit during the summer... the UK by stereotype is "Where it rains in the summer time"
19:43 * speedrunnerG55 pokes REDhome
19:43 Cprossu_Netbook the worst is indiana, Phu
19:44 Cprossu_Netbook 101F @ 95% humidity
19:44 Phu ow
19:44 masterofmonks .tfc 32348
19:44 Cprossu_Netbook .c 101F to c
19:44 BotSteve 38.3333333 degrees Celsius
19:44 masterofmonks .tfwc 32348
19:44 BotSteve 36�C?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Perry, FL!  'uncontrollable swamp-ass'
19:44 * REDhome is alive. No worries.
19:45 masterofmonks And that is after a three hour thunderstorm.
19:45 Cprossu_Netbook yeah sucky there
19:45 Cprossu_Netbook at least we have a dry heat
19:45 masterofmonks But nothing beats Mississippi.
19:45 masterofmonks I went there three times last year to work. I never want to go back.
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19:46 masterofmonks At 89 degrees I thought I was going to die.
19:46 Cprossu_Netbook well in indiana it could start ourt hot and humid, rain, thunderstorm, tornado, and snow in the same day
19:46 Cprossu_Netbook *ourt=out
19:46 masterofmonks Sounds like Florida.
19:47 masterofmonks Except we get hail or sleet instead of snow.
19:47 Cprossu_Netbook no because in indiana you don't have hurricanes
19:47 Cprossu_Netbook we get hail
19:47 Cprossu_Netbook oddly enough
19:47 Cprossu_Netbook last big one was softball sized
19:47 Cprossu_Netbook fucked a lot of shit up
19:47 Cprossu_Netbook yay for microbursts
19:47 masterofmonks Yeah.
19:48 Cprossu_Netbook think about what size they must have been in the clouds though
19:48 masterofmonks We had quarter sized hail a couple of years ago.
19:49 Cprossu_Netbook http://www.wisemechanical.com/Images%20Main%20Page/Linda%20Irish%20old%20unit%20004.jpg
19:49 Cprossu_Netbook ^ when your air conditioner looks like this...
19:49 Cprossu_Netbook and don't even ask about cars
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20:01 * mashpriborintorg goes to sleep
20:02 Seroster SparkyProjects,
20:02 Seroster You there?
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20:19 Phu ooh yesh. My blu-ray player seems to be happy to play many video formats over DLNA without requireing transcoding :)
20:21 SparkyProjects Seroster
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20:22 Seroster Do you have any experience with diving? =P
20:23 SparkyProjects Dumpster diving ?
20:23 SparkyProjects :D
20:23 SparkyProjects No experience in underwater diving, bu i know you shouldn't breathe in at the bottom and hold your breath till you get to the surface
20:23 Seroster Water =P
20:24 Seroster SparkyProjects, honestly it wouldt surprise me if you were a master diver with a few thousand dives experience xD
20:24 SparkyProjects I thought about it once, and only once
20:25 Seroster Heh
20:25 Seroster I got some salvage diving to do this summer
20:25 SparkyProjects Free diving or scuba ?
20:26 Seroster Friend got a raft, last year I moved it from 1.5meters deep to 5meters deep
20:26 Seroster Free
20:26 Seroster The anchor is a lump of concrete, I havent weighed it, but it is LARGE
20:26 Seroster Probably a couple hundred kilos
20:27 SparkyProjects Get some bags and an air tank, attach the bags and use air ti fill the bags.
20:27 Seroster Its drifted inwards this year to approx 3meters, and we're going to go for broke and get it to 15
20:28 Seroster Last time we attatched a big cloth bag, and dove down with balloons until we got it light enough xD
20:28 Seroster Took us three days =P
20:29 SparkyProjects Big plastic bags inside a huge cloth bag (the kind used for sand delivery from a truck), a length of hose to thee plastic bags, fill the bags from the surface
20:30 REDhome I'm going to be in Pentwater for the next week...Anyone know of any hotspots for wifi there?
20:30 Seroster Havent got a compressor
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20:30 Seroster And it is too far out for me to run electricity to one =P
20:30 SparkyProjects Air tank filled from the tyre inflator compressor at a garage
20:30 Seroster SparkyProjects, Its in the middle of nowhere =P
20:30 Cprossu_Netbook hahahahaha
20:30 Cprossu_Netbook awesome
20:30 Cprossu_Netbook the thumper vidd is up!
20:31 Seroster SparkyProjects, Either it's another week of diving or I'll use a bike pump x-d
20:31 Seroster I wonder how many pedal bike innertubes you would need to offset 500kilos of concrete =D
20:32 REDhome I'm going to be in Pentwater for the next week...Anyone know of any hotspots for wifi there?
20:33 Seroster If we ever make a new anchour it will be 50 pieces of concrete 10kg each, instead of one 500... =P
20:33 Nekoroms or just use tractor tire inner tube
20:33 Seroster REDhome, I dont think anyone here knows =P
20:33 Seroster Nekoroms, Yeah. Because I have a spare tracor inner tube just laying around xD
20:33 Seroster It would be easier and probably cheaper to hire a damn chopper
20:34 REDhome :(
20:34 Nekoroms the bike?
20:34 REDhome Okay...then does someone want to tell me how to access IRC on my phone?
20:35 Seroster I suppose you got one of them nifty phone/computah/camera/MP3/vibrator/hammer phones?
20:35 Seroster Then you can either download a client
20:35 Seroster Or just visit an internet chat page
20:35 REDhome I have a rumor touch with internet.
20:35 REDhome where do i go to download a client?
20:35 Seroster I think it's something like webchat.freenode.net
20:35 Seroster There you can surf via browser
20:36 SparkyProjects Seroster, better still, car inner tubes
20:37 SparkyProjects More surface area
20:37 Seroster Cars have inner tubes?
20:37 REDhome is now known as |RED|
20:37 Nekoroms vans and trucks have
20:37 Nekoroms or lorries..
20:37 SparkyProjects Most are now tubeless, but you can still get tubes
20:38 |RED| Cprossu_Netbook: Hi.
20:38 SparkyProjects Tractor tyre inner tubes :D
20:39 SparkyProjects How bouyant is the raft ?
20:39 SparkyProjects Maybe all you need is a good long pole on a fulcrum to lift the anchor just enough to clear the bottom
20:40 SparkyProjects if the lever is long enouugh ......
20:41 Seroster SparkyProjects, How boyent are 8 200liter barrels?
20:41 SparkyProjects If they hold your wight well enough, bouyant enough
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20:42 Seroster Heh
20:42 SparkyProjects I'm guessing you can have quite a few people on the raft without sinking
20:42 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:
20:42 BotSteve Captain's Blog 6-25-11 Cprossu's Revenge, Glen's Damage, and Comparing Length http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J72lK01B2Ic
20:42 SparkyProjects You only need one or two for a lever
20:42 Seroster Hrm
20:42 Seroster Well
20:43 Seroster The raft is made for picknics, swimming and diving, so it feels appropriate to dive while moving it =P
20:43 SparkyProjects You can spend an hour lifting the anchor and moving the raft, the rest of the day diving etc :P
20:44 Seroster Hm
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20:45 Cprossu_Netbook http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J72lK01B2Ic
20:45 Cprossu_Netbook whoooo!
20:45 Cprossu_Netbook that kicked ass
20:45 Seroster Might attach a pulley
20:45 Cprossu_Netbook the smoke cloud was epic.
20:46 SparkyProjects Easiest way is to rest a pole over one edge of the raft as low as possible in the water, attach the anchor rope to that end, lean on the pole to raise it, move the raft, then let the anchor go
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20:47 Seroster Erp.
20:47 SparkyProjects Cprossu, when you get the card in the post, get some good photos :D
20:47 Cprossu_Netbook will do
20:52 Cprossu_Netbook http://oi56.tinypic.com/zm0gn4.jpg
20:52 Cprossu_Netbook ^ SparkyProjects
20:52 Cprossu_Netbook very nice.
20:53 SparkyProjects Wow, nice :)
20:53 SparkyProjects Shame it wasn't zoomed in on camera
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20:57 Cprossu_Netbook still it was nice lol
20:57 Cprossu_Netbook I couldn't be happier
20:59 SparkyProjects That back wall behind Thumper needs to be matt black
21:03 SparkyProjects Would also be a cool project for someone to make a trigger for a camera that is set on multishot
21:03 SparkyProjects DSLR camera
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21:24 speedrunnerG55 Hi
21:25 speedrunnerG55 I need help with buttions
21:26 speedrunnerG55 How do i remove the default buttion immage. So the desired immage is the buttion
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21:28 speedrunnerG55 Help?
21:28 * speedrunnerG55 pokes Cprossu_Netbook
21:29 SparkyProjects How do you mean ? and is this html ?
21:29 speedrunnerG55 Yes
21:29 speedrunnerG55 And how to i do the sellected/ not selected buttions
21:30 SparkyProjects If it's not too big to post, what is the line of code you are working with
21:30 speedrunnerG55 ...i cant really copy/past.
21:30 speedrunnerG55 Ill try to connect.
21:31 speedrunnerG55 My computer is in a wifi dead spot
21:31 speedrunnerG55 Im on my phone here
21:32 SparkyProjects oh, ok
21:35 speedrunnerG55 <buttion> <img src="blaaahhhhh.jpg" width=eh height="lol" alt="haha. You ipv6er" </bution>
21:36 speedrunnerG55 It always has this default buttion picture around it
21:36 speedrunnerG55 Mabe im using the wrong tag?
21:37 SparkyProjects Still not sure whhat you are doing, though it sounds like you may want to use 'class' and a bit of css, unlless it needs a bit of javascript (i'm no good with the later)
21:37 SparkyProjects does this site help ? http://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp
21:40 SparkyProjects Sounds like you want a blank cell where you can 'frame' in an image depending on the condition of an output
21:40 SparkyProjects Cprossu_netbook, sent you a PM
21:41 Cprossu_Netbook SparkyProjects:  nice!
21:41 speedrunnerG55 ?
21:43 SparkyProjects Good echo on slomo
21:45 pegasus laptop: rebuilt. temperature: about 15-20 degrees F lower.
21:45 Cprossu_Netbook .tfw 85020
21:45 BotSteve 110�F?! ITS FUCKING...ARE YOU OKAY? IN Phoenix, AZ!  'So hot my dog developed sweat glands.'
21:45 pegasus .tfw 18101
21:45 BotSteve 73�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Allentown, PA!  'More please.'
21:46 speedrunnerG55 Eh?
21:46 SparkyProjects Speed ?
21:46 injektion .tfw 30281
21:46 BotSteve 91�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Stockbridge, GA!  'Looked in the fridge this morning for some eggs. They're already cooked.'
21:50 Seroster Who needs pads for the vise when you got duct tape?
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21:50 BotSteve ****Attention on deck!  Captain on the bridge!****
21:52 Cprossu_Netbook hey CaptainBoden , I approve :)
21:52 Cprossu_Netbook too bad about the BRBOS though
21:52 dr_jkl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP3gzee1cps
21:53 Cprossu_Netbook http://oi56.tinypic.com/zm0gn4.jpg
21:53 Cprossu_Netbook it ate it way better than I thought it would.
21:53 Sgt_Lemming ...?
21:54 pegasus http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dsmyMHFstEo/TgXk_vhvQVI/AAAAAAAAA4Y/kigpJw6Ghpk/s1600/browser%2Bwar%2Bcopy.jpg
21:54 dr_jkl so good evening TGG
21:54 dr_jkl how is everyone?
21:54 Sgt_Lemming getting ready for work :-(
21:54 dr_jkl aww
21:55 Sgt_Lemming it is 8am here though
21:55 Cprossu_Netbook (puts on redneck voice chris envisions me with) Watchin' nas CAR and eatin' tater chips.
21:55 Seroster Evening capn
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21:56 injektion hmm
21:57 tonsofpcs hi hi
21:57 Cprossu_Netbook hey tonsofpcs
21:57 tonsofpcs so apparently the apple store won't have FCP X because it's only available in the app store....
21:58 tonsofpcs .tfw 13760
21:58 Sgt_Lemming FCP?
21:58 tonsofpcs final cut pro
21:58 Angy4 final cut pro?
21:58 Sgt_Lemming ah ok
21:58 BotSteve 68�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Endicott, NY!  'It is now safe to leave your home.'
21:58 Sgt_Lemming .tfwc brisbane
21:58 BotSteve 13�C?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Brisbane, AS!  'It could be worse.'
21:59 Cprossu_Netbook tonsofpcs:  that's pretty dumb
21:59 tonsofpcs Cprossu_Netbook: we told them that
21:59 Cprossu_Netbook did you see the conan bit on it?
21:59 Cprossu_Netbook @ tonsofpcs ?
21:59 injektion Is this like the BRBOS http://cgi.ebay.com/Allen-Bradley-Push-Button-Jumbo-Mushroom-Red-800T-D6-/350123213862#ht_643wt_907
21:59 tonsofpcs yes
21:59 tonsofpcs i contemplated going back in  to the apple store and loading it up on all the computers
21:59 tonsofpcs except they don't all handle flash :-p
22:00 Cprossu_Netbook tonsofpcs:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxKYuF9pENQ
22:00 Seroster SparkyProjects, did I just commit some kind of metallurgical sin by giving the axe head a rough time with a steel brush?
22:00 Cprossu_Netbook heehhehe
22:00 Seroster I think the proper translation would be wire brush btw
22:01 tonsofpcs "Final Cut X makes Windows Movie Maker look functional!
22:01 tonsofpcs "
22:01 injektion I hate FCPX
22:02 Angy4 FCP-X is only a pumped up iMovie, nothing like old final cut
22:02 injektion Next thing you know they are going to do the same to Logic
22:02 tonsofpcs injektion: Do you have it / have you used it?
22:02 tonsofpcs has logic gotten an update in the past 10 years?
22:03 injektion Yes
22:03 injektion I've used FCP X and I hated it
22:04 speedrunnerG55 Bbl
22:04 injektion tonsofpcs, Logic is still why a Mac is my primary computer because I haven't found anything better
22:04 tonsofpcs injektion: I just need to figure out how to sell the bossman on "You're moving to Adobe"
22:05 injektion I don't like Premier
22:05 Cprossu_Netbook injektion: no one does.
22:05 Cprossu_Netbook lol
22:05 tonsofpcs I don't either, but it's at least fully functional (and works on OS X).
22:05 tonsofpcs going to anything else requires new hardware
22:05 Cprossu_Netbook You know avid works when it wants to
22:05 Cprossu_Netbook xD
22:05 tonsofpcs Cprossu_Netbook: I have Media Composer.
22:06 Cprossu_Netbook yeah I do to
22:06 injektion Who owns Avid/Digidesign now?
22:06 tonsofpcs Avid.
22:06 Cprossu_Netbook I have to keep a real eye out on the planetary allignment to make sure things work, tonsofpcs
22:06 injektion I cannot stomach using a Digidesign or Avid product
22:06 tonsofpcs It takes me longer to ingest and convert video from my T2i than it would for me to play it out in realtime to VHS, make on-the-fly edits, and get a perfect product....
22:06 injektion I remember using ProTools 2 years ago and it was the worst experience of my life
22:07 Cprossu_Netbook yeah we remember
22:07 tonsofpcs injektion: have you tried the propellerhead stuff?
22:07 Cprossu_Netbook fucking copy protection
22:07 injektion tonsofpcs, Reason isn't for me
22:07 Sgt_Lemming mmmmmm, Reason
22:07 Sgt_Lemming love it
22:07 Sgt_Lemming so awesome
22:07 injektion I need good MIDI support which only Logic has
22:07 Sgt_Lemming and so much fun just to mess around with
22:07 tonsofpcs injektion: does  record not have good midi support? (I haven't played with it, just asking)
22:08 injektion protools is well known for not having good midi support
22:08 Seroster Either this is a new alloy called "butter steel" or my dremel is way more powerful than I thought
22:09 Sgt_Lemming speaking of buttery metals
22:09 tonsofpcs injektion: what do you do with MIDI?
22:09 Sgt_Lemming I had a chunk of brass on the lathe last night
22:09 Sgt_Lemming that was a lot of fun
22:09 injektion tonsofpcs, I use a lot of external MIDI instruments because software instruments suck
22:09 Sgt_Lemming but I did kinda get covered in brass chips
22:09 Cprossu_Netbook tonsofpcs:  is this you? http://www.rcgrabbag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/D70_8277-Edit.jpg
22:09 Cprossu_Netbook ^ just curious lol
22:10 tonsofpcs no, but I have similar
22:10 Sgt_Lemming the newest pc in that pic is like 20 years old
22:10 tonsofpcs injektion: right, but do you use them for play-in? play-out? both? live 'recording'? roll composition?  all of the above?
22:11 injektion Yes
22:11 injektion I also use MIDI signals to change patches, etc.
22:11 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: uh... the A4000 is only 19 years old....
22:11 Sgt_Lemming bah!
22:11 tonsofpcs "yes", got it :)
22:11 Sgt_Lemming oh, also, the thing I was making on the lathe last night
22:11 Cprossu_Netbook fair enough
22:11 Cprossu_Netbook I was just browsing
22:11 Sgt_Lemming Flame Thrower nozzle for my combat bot :-D
22:11 Cprossu_Netbook and was like....
22:12 tonsofpcs injektion: I'd be interested to know how well Propellerhead's Record works.... there's always Acid, too, although.......
22:12 injektion I use MIDI a lot especially when I use E-MU samplers tonsofpcs
22:12 Cprossu_Netbook what the fuck, that's about everything tonsofpcs said he had amiga wise lol
22:12 Cprossu_Netbook know what I mean?
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22:13 injektion If this Emax II dies I'll be pissed because they are getting expensive
22:13 tonsofpcs Cprossu_Netbook: no, I don't have an A2000 w/ toaster
22:13 tonsofpcs and my flyer is in an A4000 w/ separate drive tower
22:13 tonsofpcs (toaster is in A3000)
22:13 Cprossu_Netbook ahhhh ok
22:13 tonsofpcs (I do have an A2000 and a2500 too)
22:13 tonsofpcs also, I only have one 1084s :(
22:13 Cprossu_Netbook I have an amiga 2000
22:13 Cprossu_Netbook that's it
22:13 Cprossu_Netbook no hdd's in it
22:13 Cprossu_Netbook just a corroded motherboard
22:14 Cprossu_Netbook and 2 floppy drives
22:14 Cprossu_Netbook no software
22:14 injektion I have a C128 in my  closet
22:14 Cprossu_Netbook I do have the keyboard, mouse, and monitor though
22:15 injektion How in the hell do I connect the C128 to a TV?
22:15 Cprossu_Netbook with the proper cable.
22:15 Cprossu_Netbook duh xD
22:15 injektion which is?
22:15 injektion All I have is the C128 and the power supply
22:17 tonsofpcs injektion: I think you need a box on the DIN output to go to a TV with the 128...
22:17 tonsofpcs not sure
22:17 Cprossu_Netbook http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=290579858068&amp;clk_rvr_id=243843259597
22:17 Cprossu_Netbook I don't think so
22:17 Cprossu_Netbook it still has straight composite
22:17 Cprossu_Netbook with the proper cable
22:17 Cprossu_Netbook iirc.
22:18 Cprossu_Netbook unless you mean to RF
22:18 Cprossu_Netbook injektion: do you mean RF or composite?
22:18 Cprossu_Netbook when you say connect to a tv?
22:20 Cprossu_Netbook .tfw 85021
22:20 BotSteve 111�F?! ITS FUCKING...ARE YOU OKAY? IN Phoenix, AZ!  'Beach.'
22:20 injektion Cprossu_Netbook, composite
22:20 Cprossu_Netbook then you just need the right din connector then
22:20 Cprossu_Netbook I have to go pick up a laptop
22:20 Cprossu_Netbook bbl
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22:37 Seroster Damn this axe is coming out nicely
22:39 Seroster The idiotic ass company dipped the entire beuatiful hickory handle in vats of paint, alternating black and yellow vats to make a damn ugly pattern
22:39 Seroster Sanding off that crap, real nice wood under
22:42 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by TheGeekGroup.  New videos:
22:42 BotSteve Patching Floors With Epoxy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r-j7WS6GGM
22:51 SparkyProjects Seroster, wirebrushing is fine, don't forget to wipe with oil when you finish
22:51 SparkyProjects (sorry, was watching a programme)
22:59 tonsofpcs yay for awesome from science!
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23:12 * Ponko92 is back for the US
23:12 BotSteve Ponko92: I have the following messages for you:
23:12 BotSteve At 23 Jun 23:08Z, CSMonster asked me to tell Ponko92 i've been busy
23:12 tonsofpcs wb Ponko92
23:13 Ponko92 ok thanks botsteve
23:15 Ponko92 ahh its good to be back
23:16 Ponko92 how's peeps on IRC
23:18 Ponko92 tough crowd
23:19 Ponko92 Cprossu SAVE chat please i've been back a few mins and its already died on me
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23:27 SparkyProjects Hi Ponko
23:31 Ponko92 hey Sparky
23:32 Ponko92 i thought IRC became 28 days later even though i was away in US since wednesday
23:34 SparkyProjects Where did you go ?
23:34 tonsofpcs after an hour long conversion prrocess, it seems that avid is finally able to edit video from my cellphone
23:36 Ponko92 it was some Football Camp thin
23:37 Ponko92 somewhere in KY
23:39 Ponko92 i think i was going from place to place
23:40 tonsofpcs you think? are you not sure?
23:40 Ponko92 as i said i was going from place to place
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23:40 tonsofpcs oh, i missed the comma there
23:41 injection The weather is sucking so hard right now
23:42 tonsofpcs hmm.  The Avid took this 3GP video quite nicely.  I'm not sure if it's because i've been giving it h264 in HD and the 3gp was SD or if it's because the 3GP codec is just easier for it.
23:42 Ponko92 sorry tonsofpcs i'm very jetlagged lol
23:42 tonsofpcs (it hates h264)
23:43 tonsofpcs naps are good for jetlag.  Staying up until a normal 'sleep' time, then sleeping overnight is better.
23:43 Ponko92 yeah i might just do that now
23:43 Ponko92 goodnight everyone
23:44 tonsofpcs g'nite
23:44 Ponko92 :)
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23:47 egrsteve cprossu, you see the lastest captains blog?
23:47 BotSteve egrsteve: I have the following messages for you:
23:47 BotSteve At 07:24Z, Cprossu_Laptop asked me to tell egrsteve we are dead in the water to cotrol 20-ten's from the saturn.
23:47 BotSteve At 07:25Z, Cprossu_Laptop asked me to tell egrsteve according to the vm3000 config sheet, we would need a vm3000 plus a piece of obscure software
23:47 BotSteve At 08:46Z, Cprossu asked me to tell egrsteve new config is in place, expect some weirdness, looks like we're on output 1 now for the stream and I have no clue why during boot it choses certain signal paths, meh oh well,
23:47 egrsteve thanks botsteve
23:47 BotSteve No problem, egrsteve
23:48 Seroster SparkyProjects, will mineral oil suffice?
23:48 dr_jkl oooontz.
23:56 speedrunnerG55 Hi

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