Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-06-27

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00:01 speedrunnerG55 Hey
00:01 speedrunnerG55 tonsofpcs:
00:01 Seroster That fucking epoxy crap paint got into the grain of the wood..
00:04 tonsofpcs hi
00:04 tonsofpcs speedrunnerG55:
00:05 speedrunnerG55 I need help with buttions
00:06 speedrunnerG55 Im pritty shurre you told me his alreaddy. But how to i make a picture into a buttion and have multiple immage sources for selected/pushed
00:06 speedrunnerG55 Or w/e
00:07 speedrunnerG55 Because im always havving that buttion immage thats so annoying
00:07 speedrunnerG55 Because i was the buttion to be a sertian size (the immage specifically) and it puts his thing around it
00:08 speedrunnerG55 And messes up the layout of the table thats containing it
00:08 speedrunnerG55 And it dosent look right
00:09 speedrunnerG55 ....
00:09 * speedrunnerG55 pokes tonsofpcs
00:10 speedrunnerG55 My phones about to run out of batterys
00:10 speedrunnerG55 Crud... :(
00:11 Seroster SparkyProjects, you there?
00:12 speedrunnerG55 3%
00:12 speedrunnerG55 2%
00:13 Seroster SparkyProjects, any thoughts concidering the new wedge?
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00:19 SparkyProjects I'm here Seroster
00:20 Seroster Wedge, anything in particular to worry about?
00:20 Seroster I might have to remove the epoxy from the old slit, that will be a pain
00:20 Seroster Materials for the wedge etc?
00:20 Seroster could I get away with metal? I haven't got any wood stock at home =P
00:21 SparkyProjects What sort of wedge are you intending to use ?
00:21 SparkyProjects I recommend the proper metal one with serations
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00:21 Seroster I intend on using whatever I can come up with =P
00:21 Seroster Dry handle, beat the serrated metal wedge in, profit?
00:22 Seroster Steel or aluminium?
00:22 SparkyProjects Steel
00:24 Seroster The current slit is 30mm, but 20mm are filled with epoxy crap. I'll dig that out
00:24 Seroster Should I make the slit even deeper?
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00:25 SparkyProjects Make it a fraction shorte than the wedge, it should only be a saw blade wide, beat the wedge in hard
00:27 Cprossu_Netbook I missed steve didn't I?
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00:29 Seroster Wait
00:29 Seroster It cant be
00:29 Seroster Or can it..
00:30 Seroster I think what I am digging out now is a plastic wedge GLUED in place
00:30 SparkyProjects Yuck
00:32 Angy4 Cprossu: I'd say yes
00:35 * KB3NZQ hurts Cprossu with a medium sized Windows ME user guide
00:35 Obtuse_lappy BRAIN FREEZE
00:36 Obtuse_lappy owww
00:36 Obtuse_lappy ok, now i'm good
00:36 Obtuse_lappy anyone know of a good program to view html files?
00:37 Angy4 vim
00:37 Obtuse_lappy other than notepad editors
00:37 KB3NZQ notepad++ or scite
00:37 Obtuse_lappy like something that kind of lets you minimize certain sections
00:38 Obtuse_lappy like when you look at Chrome "Inspect Element"
00:38 KB3NZQ notepad++ and scite will do that
00:38 Angy4 notepad++ definitly
00:38 Obtuse_lappy you can see all the div tags, and minimize below
00:38 Obtuse_lappy k
00:38 Obtuse_lappy one of those better be for linux
00:38 Seroster With a little violence you woudlnt even need a wedge xdD
00:38 Angy4 not notepad++ :)
00:39 Angy4 open komodo can do that
00:39 KB3NZQ then you want jedit
00:39 Angy4 and it run on linux
00:39 KB3NZQ jedit is java based
00:39 Cprossu_Netbook lol @ KB3NZQ
00:40 KB3NZQ hi cprossu
00:40 Obtuse_lappy sciTE and Jedit are both in ubuntu software center
00:40 Obtuse_lappy so yay
00:40 Cprossu_Netbook I'm busy trying to figure out what HP engineers did to this computer to get it back online :)
00:40 Angy4 it smashed it on its fire place
00:40 Cprossu_Netbook new logic board, new keyboard, new middle case, new LCD, new touchpad,
00:40 Cprossu_Netbook and a new wireless
00:40 KB3NZQ now i'm pulling your ios's off my ftp yea for 54mb wifi
00:40 Obtuse_lappy basically I'm trying to make a list of every TGG video based on the html from youtube
00:41 Obtuse_lappy I hate their format
00:41 Cprossu_Netbook the only thing that's original on this laptop are 2 trap doors now
00:41 KB3NZQ wow
00:41 Cprossu_Netbook all the plastic was replaced when the last repair company dropped it
00:41 Cprossu_Netbook on it's corner
00:41 Cprossu_Netbook it also got a new dvd drive then
00:42 Angy4 the (so-called) serial number is original as well I believe
00:42 Cprossu_Netbook yeah technically
00:42 Cprossu_Netbook they peeled it off of the old case
00:42 Cprossu_Netbook and glued it on the new one
00:42 Cprossu_Netbook (no I am not kidding)
00:42 Angy4 did they glue one of the tech finger with it?
00:42 Cprossu_Netbook no
00:42 Cprossu_Netbook they did that part ok
00:43 Angy4 you may have ended to the pro tech support so
00:43 Angy4 after playing some polo with the old case throught the factory
00:43 Cprossu_Netbook hrmmmm they used word
00:43 Seroster SparkyProjects, I whacked the handle against the vise and it became such a snug fit I can't get a razor blade into the slit xD
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00:44 * Cprossu_Netbook looks at recent documents
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00:44 Cprossu_Netbook nope nothing there
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00:44 * Cprossu_Netbook searches modified files
00:44 injection Top Gear was awesome
00:45 SparkyProjects Seroster, you need to splay the end of the shaft to secure it, so if the slots are too tight, remove the shaft and make them wider
00:45 Cprossu_Netbook injection: YAY
00:45 Cprossu_Netbook I get to watch top gear!
00:45 injection ?
00:46 SparkyProjects Injektion, yeah just  watched it myself, i can't find the marauder anywhere on the web with a quick search
00:46 Seroster SparkyProjects, How far is the handle supposed to go trhough the eye? Flush cut, a few millimeters out?
00:46 injection SparkyProjects, I'm surprised Clarkson liked the BMW 1-Series M
00:46 SparkyProjects About 1mm out is good
00:47 SparkyProjects I'm not much of a fan of faast cars, and generally not top gear, just that some of the stuff they do is funny
00:48 SparkyProjects Plus there was nothing else to watch :P
00:48 injection I love cars that make driving enjoyable
00:48 * tonsofpcs has pizza :D
00:48 SparkyProjects Me too, that's why i've got a discovery :)
00:48 injection Not boring sterile appliances like a microwave
00:48 Angy4 Marauder got a wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marauder_(Mine_Protected_Vehicle)
00:49 injection Or a toyota
00:49 tonsofpcs BotSteve: tell speedrunnerG55 it's irrelevant at this point.  It's a UI mockup not a functional model.
00:49 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I'll pass that on when speedrunnerG55 is around.
00:49 tonsofpcs thanks BotSteve :)
00:49 BotSteve Happy to help, tonsofpcs
00:49 injection Driving should be something you look forward to doing every day
00:49 injection Not something you hate
00:50 SparkyProjects Thanks Angy , i failed because i did an image search :D
00:50 Cprossu_Netbook cool
00:50 Cprossu_Netbook this is running a different revision of motherboard
00:50 Angy4 You want one to crush cars on parking lots?
00:50 injection SparkyProjects, Do you know of anyone owning an 80s Range Rover?
00:51 injection bbl
00:51 SparkyProjects I know a few who had range rovers, but don't know the year or if they had any issues.
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00:52 Cprossu_Netbook I wish I had a bunch of friends to do 24 hours of lemons with
00:52 tonsofpcs ?
00:53 Cprossu_Netbook lemons, not le mons
00:53 Cprossu_Netbook as in you run a POS car
00:54 Cprossu_Netbook http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/
00:54 Cprossu_Netbook ^
00:54 Angy4 I once did a thing like that, <$500 cars right?
00:55 tonsofpcs hmm, what do we do?
00:55 SparkyProjects A thought, there's a Le Mans, but not a Le Womans
00:56 tonsofpcs how far is chicago from tgg?
00:56 CaptainBoden 2.5hrs
00:57 tonsofpcs hiya captain!
00:57 Cprossu_Netbook hey CaptainBoden , what's new?
00:57 CaptainBoden Hey there, Cprossu, I once drove in the 24hrs at Nelson's Ledges
00:57 tonsofpcs Cprossu_Netbook: chicago Oct 8-9
00:57 Cprossu_Netbook that's freaking awesome
00:58 Cprossu_Netbook I only know how to do 1/4 mile myself
00:58 Cprossu_Netbook in all honestry
00:58 Cprossu_Netbook *honesty
00:58 CaptainBoden I used to race SCCA back long ago.
00:58 Cprossu_Netbook these turn things are complicated lol
00:58 tonsofpcs 1/4 mile? huh?
00:58 Seroster Hacking a computer PSU, wich is the wire to ground?
00:59 Cprossu_Netbook black.
00:59 CaptainBoden Green
00:59 Cprossu_Netbook dc side or ac?
00:59 Seroster Thankyou CaptainBoden, and good try, cprossu =P
00:59 tonsofpcs Seroster: the one labeled "E" or "Ground" or with the ground symbol...
00:59 CaptainBoden Hang on, rephrase that question, this could be bad.
00:59 CaptainBoden What exactly are you trying to do?
01:00 Seroster Hehe
01:00 tonsofpcs also, if you don't know which one is ground, you probably shouldn't be inside the power supply without direct guidance
01:00 Seroster The low voltage side
01:00 CaptainBoden Because we're both right, in different ways.
01:00 CaptainBoden Black is the LV (output) side ground.
01:00 Seroster Indeed you are, but you got the answer I craved =P
01:00 Cprossu_Netbook are you trying to run a something from the psu on the LV side?
01:00 Seroster Yes, cprossu
01:00 Cprossu_Netbook then use black =P
01:00 CaptainBoden If you're hacking it and want to make it turn on when grounding a whire and are asking which wire to ground to turn it on, I believe Green is the one you want.
01:00 Seroster The wire you are supposed to connect to black to make the psu run without a motherboard
01:00 Cprossu_Netbook green/violet to black should turn it on
01:01 CaptainBoden and now we all know.
01:01 tonsofpcs grrr..... primetime on a weekend is a great time for them to reflash my cable box.....<not>
01:01 Cprossu_Netbook but it depends on what a POS one you have
01:01 CaptainBoden Red to Ground to enable the "Self Cleaning" mode.
01:01 Seroster And worst case scenario the PSU crashes and burns, but who cares since i didnt pay squat for it
01:01 Cprossu_Netbook CaptainBoden:  I like doing red to ground through a 3.5" floppy drive
01:01 Cprossu_Netbook ^
01:01 CaptainBoden Yellow to Ground for power-saveing mode.
01:01 tonsofpcs self cleaning mode?  is that where it lets the smoke out?
01:02 Cprossu_Netbook ever do that before, CaptainBoden ?
01:02 Cprossu_Netbook one pin off on 3 1/2"
01:02 Cprossu_Netbook connects R to B
01:02 tonsofpcs Cprossu_Netbook: those are keyed connectors for a reason....
01:02 Python what is the minimum load requirements for an ATX PSU ?
01:02 CaptainBoden Actually I very, very rarely play with computer PSUs...my toys tend to be in the "danger to oneself and others" range.
01:02 Seroster ^^
01:02 Cprossu_Netbook oh did you get my message?
01:02 Cprossu_Netbook about molex to pcie
01:02 CaptainBoden um....perhaps?
01:02 CaptainBoden no
01:02 Cprossu_Netbook to get you going at least?
01:03 CaptainBoden I just want to order the right damn cables
01:03 CaptainBoden I've got ONE card working, I just need a set of cables for my PSU and the other one will work.
01:03 CaptainBoden I don't want to hack it, I want to do it right, I can wait a week for shit to ship.
01:03 Cprossu_Netbook cool.
01:03 Cprossu_Netbook did the drivers install ok?
01:04 CaptainBoden *snork*
01:04 CaptainBoden Once I downloaded them, the CD that came with them wouldn't even READ
01:04 Cprossu_Netbook yeah you don't want to use cd drivers anyway
01:04 Cprossu_Netbook so that's a good thing
01:04 CaptainBoden I'm sure that somewhere I can order a set of cables for this bitch, it's a Corsair HX1000
01:05 Cprossu_Netbook btw do you have a dvi to hdmi?
01:05 Cprossu_Netbook because you can run 3 monitors out of the box on that card
01:05 SparkyProjects Did you send an email to them as suggested ?
01:05 Seroster Grounded the green and purple. Didnt do squat
01:05 Cprossu_Netbook ok
01:05 Cprossu_Netbook put a load on the psu
01:05 Cprossu_Netbook like a hard drive
01:05 Cprossu_Netbook or a cd drive
01:05 Cprossu_Netbook and the ones you want
01:05 Seroster Will dp
01:06 Cprossu_Netbook are the center pins
01:06 Seroster The HDD i was going to test got its power thing broken. Crud.  Well, I suppose it means a new pair of magnets ^^
01:06 Cprossu_Netbook http://jwenet.net/notebook/2005/1161a.gif
01:07 Cprossu_Netbook ^ pins are 14 and 15 on that gif
01:07 Cprossu_Netbook Seroster:  what brand/model?
01:07 Seroster Hm, it got a strange clicking noise. Feels safe ^^
01:07 Cprossu_Netbook Seroster: again make/model?
01:07 Cprossu_Netbook does it say DEER on it?
01:08 Seroster Compaq...
01:08 Cprossu_Netbook hrmm
01:08 Cprossu_Netbook those were actually good
01:08 Seroster No mention of deers or any other animal for that matter ^^
01:08 Cprossu_Netbook mitacs usually
01:08 Cprossu_Netbook but put green to a black on the atx and no dice?
01:09 Seroster Compaq 3 amps at 240volts, "API 8821"
01:09 Seroster Nothing by green+black, nope.. :c
01:09 Cprossu_Netbook uh..\
01:09 Cprossu_Netbook is that a server psu?
01:09 Cprossu_Netbook !
01:10 Seroster I.... Dont think so
01:10 Cprossu_Netbook that's like 700 watts
01:10 Seroster Yep
01:10 Cprossu_Netbook so you must be reading something wrong
01:10 Cprossu_Netbook no compaq I know of
01:10 Cprossu_Netbook has a 700watt psu
01:10 Cprossu_Netbook what's the part number?
01:10 Seroster 100-127 volts 5.0A
01:10 Seroster Ill give you the full sticker
01:10 Cprossu_Netbook get me a part number lol
01:10 Cprossu_Netbook ok
01:11 SparkyProjects http://webpages.charter.net/leutzdave/Share/ATX_Power_Supply/
01:11 SparkyProjects bottom image
01:12 Angy4 btw Cprossu I'll know more about your GE question tomorrow evening
01:12 Cprossu_Netbook enlight 250 watter
01:12 Cprossu_Netbook Angy4: awesome
01:12 Seroster API-8821   COMPAQ P/N 124848-001  SPARE KIT P/N:127999-001    S/N 393031      DATE :A 0028 REV.: C    And then it's all ac input, dc output
01:12 tonsofpcs sorry, back now, dealing with cable issues....
01:13 Seroster Ey CaptainBoden... Want an old compaq PSU to put in thumbper? xD
01:13 Cprossu_Netbook Seroster: pop the top
01:13 Cprossu_Netbook look for a blown capxon cap
01:13 Seroster Screwdriver or sledgehammer? xD
01:13 Cprossu_Netbook is my bet.
01:13 Seroster How do I recognize that cap?
01:14 Cprossu_Netbook it'll be bulging and there might be some white or brown crap coming out the top
01:14 Cprossu_Netbook it's on the 5vsb
01:15 Seroster All the caps are happy and shiny
01:16 Cprossu_Netbook what was it's former life, Seroster
01:16 Cprossu_Netbook so dirty lol
01:16 Cprossu_Netbook and it's the nasty kind of dust
01:16 Seroster Its former life was inside a tower computer, I think.
01:17 Seroster And it lived happily with all it's cuddly cards and drives in the kingdom of compaq
01:17 Cprossu_Netbook what I meant was do you know how that life ended
01:17 Cprossu_Netbook lol
01:17 Seroster Its former life ended when I snatched the computer from the dumpster xD
01:17 Cprossu_Netbook it got there by having a dead power supply?
01:18 tonsofpcs very possible!
01:18 tonsofpcs also, did you check the incomiing voltage switch?
01:18 SparkyProjects or the fuse
01:18 Seroster Cprossu I've seen microwave ovens suffer the same fate for having a damaged power cord,
01:18 SparkyProjects diagram time http://www.circuitsarchive.org/images/5/59/Cir_ps_atx.gif
01:18 Cprossu_Netbook I had a toaster oven have a loose hot wire
01:18 Cprossu_Netbook o_o
01:19 Seroster tonsofpcs, Set to 230. I might set it to 110 and power it with the 400volts from my oven =P
01:19 Cprossu_Netbook you mean BANG
01:20 Cprossu_Netbook what brand are the caps, Seroster
01:20 Cprossu_Netbook just curious
01:20 Seroster "round" xD
01:20 Seroster Gimme a sec to take a closer look
01:20 Seroster "TEAPO"
01:20 Seroster Owtf, those filter caps are tiny
01:21 Seroster 330uf
01:23 tonsofpcs this pic seems to say that green-to-black is turn-on ...
01:25 SparkyProjects yep, green to black is turn on, but some psu's require a small load on red to black for feedback (circuit senses the load)
01:26 Seroster ooo
01:26 Seroster Resistor time?
01:28 Seroster 6.8k might work
01:28 SparkyProjects Seroster, i posted a link http://webpages.charter.net/leutzdave/Share/ATX_Power_Supply/ bottom image
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01:29 SparkyProjects bigger image http://www.instructables.com/image/FY8THBOG33P0IGP/Planning.jpg
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01:39 tonsofpcs Seroster: how's it working now?
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01:40 Cprossu_netbook whoops
01:40 tonsofpcs whoooooo!ps?
01:42 Seroster tonsofpcs, not at all
01:43 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Sparky Projects on WO-33 Oscilloscope Repair Help.....python on WO-33 Oscilloscope Repair Help
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01:45 roadran322 Hello, I have a question
01:45 roadran322 Why doesn't the MDH look like the HVL? The HVL has a blue epoxy coated floor with glitter on it... While the Mdh's floor as far as I know does have an epoxy coating on it but it's not blue nor does it have glitter chips on it. Also You can see right through it exposing the cement patches.
01:45 Seroster tonsofpcs, it's going to be desoldered and parted
01:46 Seroster roadran322, I thought the same epoxy was used for both
01:47 roadran322 I know, but when you look at the floor in the mdh it doesn't look like the HVL. I must be blind or something idk. Either that or I am messing the MDH up with another room. But I doubt it.
01:47 Seroster The lighting isnt optimal
01:47 Seroster Anyhow. Im going to hit the hay. Bye folks
01:48 roadran322 Cya,Seroster.
01:48 tonsofpcs roadran322: did you see the video that tgg posted today?
01:48 tonsofpcs night Seroster
01:48 roadran322 Tgg?
01:49 roadran322 Oh wait which one?
01:49 tonsofpcs 18:42:47 <+BotSteve> In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by TheGeekGroup.  New videos:
01:49 tonsofpcs 18:42:48 <+BotSteve> Patching Floors With Epoxy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r-j7WS6GGM
01:49 tonsofpcs from what I understand, that's the MDH.
01:49 Seroster roadran322, I think evrything will be covered in the upcoming poxy series
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01:50 roadran322 Yah that is, what it looks like in that video looks the same after the epoxy. Also Seroster, I hope it does, it sorta irks be hahaha. Hope someone that is there will be on this stream....
01:50 roadran322 Weather Cam....
01:51 tonsofpcs roadran322: that's pre-epoxy, no?
01:52 roadran322 What? It is? If it was would that mean they would have to clean the whole area again. Go through etching again, then pressure washing then cleaning with a shop vac? I
01:53 SparkyProjects It's like a filler for the gaps and holes, no need to clean again  as it's made by the same people
01:53 roadran322 So they havn't truly epoxyied the MDH yet. They just patched the place?
01:54 SparkyProjects It's been epoxied
01:54 SparkyProjects That vid was a while ago
01:55 roadran322 If you look at the video of the HVL, the floor is blue and has those chips in it. Now you look at a recent video from the MDH, the floor looks nothing like that....
01:56 tonsofpcs oh
01:56 SparkyProjects Probably because of the lighting and it could be dirty now, it will get cleaned once everything is in place
01:56 SparkyProjects Remember, they patched MDH and epoxied, then they did HVL
01:57 roadran322 One second I have to find a clear video of both the MDH and the HVL
01:59 tonsofpcs i'm still not sure where exactly the MDH fits in.  Is that where the windows from MC look to?
01:59 tonsofpcs (I thought they looked to HVL, but it isn't clear...)
01:59 Python look at the tour videos ...
02:00 Python main entrance, forward take right staircase down
02:00 SparkyProjects HVL was epoxied about 19 march, MDH was before that
02:00 roadran322 This is the the HVL First 2-4 minutes, http://www.youtube.com/user/Physicsduck#p/u/69/U8XhYLu-XLk. Then compare that to the MDH (3:19), http://www.youtube.com/user/Physicsduck#p/search/2/MZ33WRx9oa4
02:03 SparkyProjects It's possible MDH and HVL are different colours, but yeah, 19th and 23 march was topcoat of epoxy
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02:04 roadran322 It could be, Idk, to me it looks like nothing of an coat. It must be see through? I don't know.
02:04 Cprossu_netbook greetings egrsteve
02:04 Cprossu_netbook how was your day?
02:04 egrsteve greetings
02:04 egrsteve I nice lazy sunday
02:05 Cprossu_netbook oh CaptainBoden, were you at the lab today and/or did you look at the MC board today?
02:05 roadran322 Hello egrsteve.Hahaha
02:05 egrsteve a nice...
02:05 tonsofpcs hi hi
02:05 Cprossu_netbook and did you get my messages steve?
02:05 egrsteve hi tonsofpcs
02:05 roadran322 I don't think CaptainBoden is on....
02:05 Cprossu_netbook I don't remember much about last night
02:05 egrsteve cprossu you see hte catains blog
02:05 Cprossu_netbook he was on about 20 mins ago
02:05 egrsteve and yes I got thee messages
02:06 roadran322 Oh.. That's Mr. Boden right hahah
02:06 Cprossu_netbook good deal
02:06 Cprossu_netbook yeah roadran322
02:06 SparkyProjects Itt may not be a thick coat, more of a paint job, i think it's an 'epoxy paint' which is used more for sealing the floor.
02:06 SparkyProjects MDH was just a screed of concrete, then wood was put on top, so the concrete floor didn't get a 'finish' like a normal floor
02:06 roadran322 Thanks Cprossu_netbook
02:07 Cprossu_netbook roadran322:  are you in MI or somewhere else?
02:07 Cprossu_netbook just curious
02:07 roadran322 Also Thanks SparkyProjects. No I am just a 13 yearold in Florida.
02:08 Cprossu_netbook kk, welcome then!
02:08 tonsofpcs so what is the purpose of the MDH (other than 'D') ?
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02:09 roadran322 To show things to the world! Jk, actually so far looks like a temporary storage facility for unsorted stuff if you ask me.
02:09 roadran322 *world things
02:09 Cprossu_netbook well main demonstration hall is where the CNC stuff is, where the VHL is, and where demos get done.
02:09 SparkyProjects Machine shop, VSL, Newton, Videos (they have a main set there), and demonstrations and talks
02:09 roadran322 Aren't most of the demo's upstairs?
02:09 Cprossu_netbook no
02:10 Cprossu_netbook like when a busload of kids comes
02:10 Cprossu_netbook presentations will likely be in mdh
02:10 tonsofpcs oh, so machine shop is inside MDH
02:10 Cprossu_netbook yeah
02:10 roadran322 Or is the upstairs set for autopsy's stuff like that? And yah
02:10 tonsofpcs that makes the layout clearer :)
02:10 SparkyProjects Think of it this way, you can't give CNC demo's upstairs
02:10 tonsofpcs upstairs is where linux geeks meet to hear from some /. guy (or something)
02:10 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: well... once video is up and running, why not?
02:11 Cprossu_netbook the autopsy stuff is done in the studios
02:11 Cprossu_netbook right now
02:11 tonsofpcs studios?
02:11 Cprossu_netbook aka the indoor racketball courts
02:11 roadran322 That's sorta were I meant some of the demo's would be done is in the studios.
02:11 SparkyProjects Why watch a video stream if you're actually there, plus you could get hands-on
02:11 Cprossu_netbook studios = the courts
02:11 tonsofpcs so what does the MC look out over? is it the studios?
02:12 douglas_ hi :D
02:12 roadran322 Only if i could get there. Sigh....
02:12 Cprossu_netbook yes
02:12 Cprossu_netbook it looks out over the studios.
02:12 tonsofpcs makes sense
02:12 SparkyProjects Small demo's can be done in the studios, larger demo's need more space
02:12 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: safety for large groups?
02:12 SparkyProjects yep
02:12 roadran322 Yes like the car lift demos and the masonary guys.
02:12 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: that's a reason to use video, not stand there
02:13 egrsteve don't forget HVL
02:13 Cprossu_netbook yeah hvl is where the awesome happens
02:13 egrsteve master control overlooks 4 rooms
02:13 Cprossu_netbook and problems are "rectified"
02:13 Obtuse_lappy all the studio space will be taken up eventually
02:13 roadran322 Some of the small demos like the volcano and amazing magnets one's are done in the stuidos upstairs.
02:13 SparkyProjects Chris is very strong on public safety
02:13 tonsofpcs egrsteve: do any of the handheld/portable cameras have servo disengages?
02:13 egrsteve photography studio (currently storing wood)
02:13 roadran322 Hahaha
02:13 egrsteve only the broadcast stuff
02:14 Cprossu_netbook lots and lots and lottttttttttttssssssssssss of wood lol
02:14 tonsofpcs (I saw the HVL frying Cprossu_netbook's favorite card and the servo went crazy on one of the cams)
02:14 roadran322 Hahaha
02:14 SparkyProjects ALso, the idea of the HAAS machines is that HAAS guys can use them for learning too
02:14 egrsteve recording studio storing AV and lighting gear
02:14 tonsofpcs what is HAAS?
02:14 Cprossu_netbook they make CNC gear
02:14 SparkyProjects CNC machines
02:14 roadran322 Haas Traines I would hop, Hahaha
02:14 Cprossu_netbook the best cnc gear in the world.
02:14 tonsofpcs ah
02:14 Obtuse_lappy I can't wait for the Recording studio
02:14 * tonsofpcs doesn't have the money to know about them, yet alone touch them
02:15 Cprossu_netbook so we have a sheet router, a mill, and a lathe made by haas
02:15 roadran322 *Trainees and *Hope. Also what's the best software to design fofr cnc's, mastercam, autocad, solidworks or what?
02:15 tonsofpcs Obtuse_lappy: video, audio, both?
02:15 egrsteve video studio housing set A autopsy set sponsor set and a small chroma key set
02:15 Obtuse_lappy Audio
02:15 egrsteve the 4th room will be girl geeks
02:15 egrsteve recording studio will be audio
02:15 Obtuse_lappy I always need a space to record vocals
02:16 tonsofpcs egrsteve / CaptainBoden - did you see my suggestion about wheatstone interconnection?
02:16 egrsteve all 4 overlooked by MC
02:16 egrsteve no I did not
02:16 egrsteve what is your though or ware is it posted
02:16 tonsofpcs egrsteve: wire the board to 66/110/krone blocks, then wire only things that need regular patchability to the Bantam/TT (or 1/4" ) patches.
02:17 Cprossu_netbook oh btw, egrsteve  liz manually patched it to the weathercam when I was screwing around with the mc this morning lol
02:17 egrsteve interesting idea
02:17 egrsteve figures
02:17 Cprossu_netbook so I can't change anything around
02:17 tonsofpcs also, if you can get donations from telco folks, you can get krone or 66 blocks with amphenol connectors on them and run 50-pair to each studio and put another block on the other end
02:17 egrsteve next time I''m in I'll change it or leave a note on the computer to change it to #9
02:17 Cprossu_netbook but the labels are all set as you asked .... I think
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02:18 SparkyProjects Liz needs to be told that she signed a waiver to agree to being stalked :D
02:18 egrsteve thanks cpprossu
02:18 roadran322 Hahaha
02:18 tonsofpcs (i mean, you can do it with a bunch of cat5/6 but it's not as quick/easy)
02:18 Cprossu_netbook egrsteve: I can't believe how much bitching the software did when I renamed everything lol
02:18 egrsteve we have used 66 blocks around the building from the old phone system we could reuse
02:19 egrsteve I can only imagine it didn't like it
02:19 tonsofpcs 66s aren't as user-friendly as krone/110, but they can serve the same purpose
02:19 egrsteve tonsofpc is there any isssue of ussing 1/4 plugs in a Bantam patch pay?
02:19 egrsteve * patch bay
02:19 tonsofpcs krone/110s you can easily center-feed (and the centers get covered with a naming/numbering panel)
02:20 tonsofpcs uh, 1/4" won't fit in a Bantam TT...
02:20 egrsteve I know the geometry is slightly diff, I ment telephone
02:20 egrsteve or longframe
02:20 tonsofpcs well, is it a Bantam 1/4" patch or a Bantam TT patch?
02:20 tonsofpcs (Bantam did make 1/4" patches)
02:20 egrsteve 1/4
02:21 roadran322 I gtg Adios
02:21 tonsofpcs cya roadran322
02:21 Cprossu_netbook later roadran322
02:21 Cprossu_netbook good luck
02:21 roadran322 Later everybody! Cya Sparky
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02:21 tonsofpcs egrsteve: you might be able to use standard 1/4"s.  They might not push the normaling properly.  I'd visually check it from the side and ohm-meter test it too
02:21 egrsteve see ya
02:22 tonsofpcs the difference is the bump between the tip and ring
02:22 egrsteve looking at it with them open the seem to be pushing the normals far enough, almost but not too far in fact
02:22 tonsofpcs (and the bevel at the tip of the tip)
02:22 egrsteve ya the tip and ring are a bit different
02:22 tonsofpcs the spacing is roughly the same
02:22 egrsteve almost identical in fact
02:23 tonsofpcs standard 1/4"s have a slightly longer non-conductive space, Bantam 1/4"s have a larger dip at that point, causing no contact
02:23 egrsteve just a grove and a round tip
02:23 tonsofpcs http://www.amazon.com/SEISMIC-AUDIO-SATTRS36C-Bantam-Patchbay/dp/B0057189K0
02:24 tonsofpcs bantam 1/4" on the left, bantam TT on the right.  note the Bantam TTs are slightly narrower and have a total round tip.
02:24 tonsofpcs if you have a patch for what's on the right, I wouldn't use what's on the left.  If you have a patch for what's on the left, you can probably use standard 1/4" plugs
02:25 SparkyProjects Telephone jacks had a more pointed tip and deeper groove, pointed tip for ease of insertion for telephone operators, deeper groove so the plugs didn't come out by mistake in the tangle
02:28 egrsteve I have a couple of TT fields, and a pile of Bantam fields
02:28 egrsteve 1/4" Bantams
02:28 egrsteve would like to use the 1/4" bantams w/ std 1/4 plugs, I think it should work
02:29 egrsteve sparky your pic was a std 1/4 on the left not a bantam
02:29 egrsteve or um tons
02:30 Cprossu_netbook btw egrsteve http://oi56.tinypic.com/zm0gn4.jpg <- very satisfied with that lol
02:31 Cprossu_netbook heheheeh
02:32 egrsteve nice, the smoke must be the decapulization in progress
02:32 SparkyProjects hmm, maybe they did have round ends http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/Oldphoneplugs.jpg we used the one on the left mainly, on the exchange racks they had + and - 50 volts
02:33 Cprossu_netbook for the size of the package there sure was a lot of magic smoke trapped inside
02:33 egrsteve indeed there was
02:33 egrsteve but we let the smoke out, it's now free range smake
02:33 Cprossu_netbook the color of it
02:33 tonsofpcs Cprossu_netbook: for the functionality of the package, there sure was a lot of magic smoke left.  Almost as if someone tried putting it back in onnce but didn't get all of it.
02:33 Cprossu_netbook I've never seen magic smoke that color before
02:36 egrsteve this is what our patchpays are designed for http://www.markertek.com/Connectors-Adapters/Audio-Connectors/Audio-Patch-Connectors/Neutrik-USA-Inc/productImage/225X225/NP3TB-R.JPG
02:36 tonsofpcs AMP patchbays?
02:36 egrsteve wait I;m wrong that tt
02:37 egrsteve thats tt
02:37 tonsofpcs no, NPT3B is 1/4" size not TT
02:37 egrsteve not sure who made them
02:37 tonsofpcs *3TB
02:37 egrsteve ok then it is the rigth one
02:37 tonsofpcs i mean, it looks the same, just scaled
02:37 egrsteve so hard to tell in pics with no scale
02:38 tonsofpcs we have TT, mini TT, and 1/4" patches at work (along with video patches of a ffew varieties and krone for audio and 66 for phone)
02:38 egrsteve mini TT?
02:38 tonsofpcs mini tt!
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02:39 tonsofpcs it's roughly ... 1/4:TT::3/16:miniTT iirc
02:39 tonsofpcs just as long, just thinner
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02:39 egrsteve ah ok
02:40 egrsteve I have TT at church, that bay likes to be noisy
02:40 egrsteve at times
02:40 egrsteve I think it needs a good deoxit treatment
02:41 tonsofpcs s/deoxit/replacement/
02:41 Cprossu_netbook deoxit is a really good tool... for keeping people out of the audio room
02:41 Cprossu_netbook ask me how
02:41 Cprossu_netbook lol
02:41 egrsteve how?
02:41 Cprossu_netbook one day being really annoyed
02:41 Cprossu_netbook I sprayed some on the carpet near the door
02:41 Cprossu_netbook rofl
02:42 Cprossu_netbook they would open the door, and slam it
02:42 Cprossu_netbook and not go in
02:42 tonsofpcs hahah
02:42 Cprossu_netbook life was good.
02:42 egrsteve nice
02:42 Cprossu_netbook I did that after seeing the reaction when I was cleaning pots on that yamaha mixer
02:42 tonsofpcs you need http://compare.ebay.com/like/130510829902?var=lv&amp;ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&amp;var=sbar&amp;_lwgsi=y
02:42 egrsteve it's almost 600 patchpoints so replacing would  not be fun
02:42 Cprossu_netbook I showed you earlier
02:42 tonsofpcs (and cables)
02:42 tonsofpcs egrsteve: patch backs, punch backs, or solder backs?
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02:43 Cprossu_netbook rofl
02:43 Cprossu_netbook the shipping is more
02:43 Cprossu_netbook than they are asking
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02:43 Cprossu_netbook I hate ebay sometimes
02:43 tonsofpcs Cprossu_netbook: granted, a new one (although lower profile) is about 100x the price...
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02:43 Cprossu_netbook wb egrsteve
02:44 tonsofpcs egrsteve: patch backs, punch backs, or solder backs?
02:44 egrsteve sorry about that, some random keystroke took me to cprossued pic he posted
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02:44 Cprossu_netbook oh hahaah
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02:44 egrsteve terminal clips at the lab if I remember right
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02:44 Python .g w24257k datasheet
02:44 tonsofpcs at the church
02:44 BotSteve Python: http://www.datasheetarchive.com/W24257K-70LL-datasheet.html
02:44 Cprossu_netbook we should get you running a real irc client, steve
02:44 Cprossu_netbook ang tggmc too
02:44 * tonsofpcs hands egrsteve irssi
02:45 egrsteve at church I'm think solder or punch
02:45 tonsofpcs solder = pita, punch = easy
02:45 egrsteve i know I should be
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02:45 egrsteve agreed, I have never pulled them as that would be a pita given the rack they are in
02:46 egrsteve and it's location
02:46 egrsteve anyone know a good light IRC client fo rmac
02:46 Cprossu_netbook bitchx
02:46 egrsteve maybe I should go with a terminal client
02:46 egrsteve that would be fun
02:47 Cprossu_netbook at least I think there's a mac binary for bitchx
02:47 egrsteve under the hood this thing is a nice BSD unix
02:48 egrsteve they do have a free bsd version
02:48 egrsteve I might be able to run that
02:49 Obtuse_lappy this is really cool listening to HAM's talk
02:49 egrsteve on the scanner?
02:49 Cprossu_netbook other than that
02:49 Obtuse_lappy yea
02:49 Cprossu_netbook http://www.ircle.com/
02:50 Obtuse_lappy tune in
02:50 Cprossu_netbook ^ that looks nice too
02:51 Cprossu_netbook not free though =(
02:51 egrsteve just had the option to close an ad on ustream
02:52 Cprossu_netbook BatSteve-Away:  it's been speedrunner appreciation day for a week!
02:52 Cprossu_netbook BotSteve: tell BatSteve-Away it's been speedrunner appreciation day for a week!
02:52 BotSteve Cprossu_netbook: I'll pass that on when BatSteve-Away is around.
02:52 Cprossu_netbook lol
02:53 Cprossu_netbook egrsteve: was it a mexican kool aid commercial?
02:54 egrsteve no, just for men hair stuff
02:54 Cprossu_netbook hrmmm
02:54 Cprossu_netbook but yeah it seemed the ads start pouring in right when we are trying to talk or do shit
02:54 egrsteve indeed they do
02:55 Obtuse_lappy i haven't seen this kool aid commercial
02:55 * egrsteve needs to get the echolink up at the lab
02:55 Obtuse_lappy Next year on Field day we'll have to have a nice ol tent set up
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02:56 Obtuse_lappy in the parking lot
02:56 egrsteve forget a tent we have MDH
02:56 egrsteve and I hope a 75ft tower
02:56 Obtuse_lappy haha. that works too
02:56 Obtuse_lappy it'll be a thing
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02:56 egrsteve maybe a 100 if we can get a variance when the time comes
02:57 egrsteve we st at the "bottom" of a hill so a tall tower would be nice
02:57 Cprossu_netbook it's nice and cool out now
02:58 Cprossu_netbook .tfw 85021
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02:58 Cprossu_netbook well that was weird
02:58 Cprossu_netbook BotSteve: hello?
02:58 BotSteve 108�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'HOLY FUCK'
02:58 Cprossu_netbook well...sort of...
02:59 tonsofpcs .tfw 13760
02:59 Cprossu_netbook BotSteve is sure taking it's time
02:59 Cprossu_netbook ...
02:59 Cprossu_netbook ...
02:59 BotSteve 61�F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Endicott, NY!  'Where life is mediocre'
03:00 egrsteve netpocolypse in BC
03:00 Cprossu_netbook hrmm
03:00 Cprossu_netbook .tfw
03:00 Cprossu_netbook wow.
03:01 * egrsteve plays jepordy theme
03:01 Cprossu_netbook ohhhhh I got an idea
03:01 Cprossu_netbook BotSteve: tell yourself a good one
03:01 BotSteve Cprossu_netbook: I'll pass that on when yourself is around.
03:01 Cprossu_netbook is now known as yourself
03:01 yourself
03:01 BotSteve yourself: I have the following messages for you:
03:01 BotSteve At 03:01Z, Cprossu_netbook asked me to tell yourself a good one
03:01 BotSteve 72�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'FUCKING SWEET'
03:01 yourself is now known as Cprossu_netbook
03:02 Cprossu_netbook hemmm
03:02 Cprossu_netbook close
03:02 Cprossu_netbook BotSteve: tell myself a good one
03:02 BotSteve Cprossu_netbook: I'll pass that on when myself is around.
03:02 Cprossu_netbook is now known as myself
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03:02 myself
03:02 BotSteve myself: I have the following messages for you:
03:02 BotSteve At 03:02Z, Cprossu_netbook asked me to tell myself a good one
03:02 * egrsteve wants a good HF station
03:03 myself is now known as Cprossu_netbook
03:03 Cprossu_netbook bingo.
03:03 egrsteve sceeming ad
03:03 Cprossu_netbook yeah the screaming ad hurts me
03:03 Obtuse_lappy egrsteve, how are we picking up all of these echolink conversations?
03:03 Cprossu_netbook it might have even blown a driver in my cheap headphones
03:03 Obtuse_lappy what is the scanner scanning for?
03:04 Cprossu_netbook it's got chris's blackbook of frequencies in it
03:04 egrsteve we are picking up these echolinks because someone in GR is transmiting them from there ecoling station
03:04 Obtuse_lappy ah
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03:05 Obtuse_lappy haha. this guy is like "I can't hear you so i'm going away"
03:05 egrsteve I don't know what frequency this on on
03:05 egrsteve * is on
03:05 Cprossu_netbook oh egrsteve, good news is chris did get one of the vid cards up and running
03:05 egrsteve good to here
03:05 Cprossu_netbook so he's at least got 2 screens and he could drive 3 with a dvi to hdmi adapter with one
03:05 egrsteve * hear
03:06 egrsteve should be enough to eit on
03:06 Cprossu_netbook and IIRC he could potentially drive 6 displays total with it
03:06 Cprossu_netbook just on one card
03:06 Cprossu_netbook because I picked neat cards lol
03:06 egrsteve thats enough displays to get lost on let alone several cards
03:06 egrsteve of 6 displays
03:10 Cprossu_netbook once he gets the new rig built it will be able to drive 12 monitors with the right adapters
03:11 Cprossu_netbook I like adding in expandibility lol
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03:12 Cprossu_netbook http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815309008&amp;cm_re=mini_displayport_to_dvi-_-15-309-008-_-Product
03:13 Cprossu_netbook they make one that has a dual port on it
03:14 Cprossu_netbook so you can do both diplay ports, 2 dvi's a piece + the 2 dvi's onboard
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03:15 egrsteve_ another ad
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03:16 Cprossu_netbook I hate that lol
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03:16 egrsteve_ at least it lets you mute ads
03:16 Hackbat Guys which sounds better.
03:17 Hackbat Chocolate covered bacon or Bacon covered Chocolate?
03:17 egrsteve_ chocolate bacon covered covered chocolate
03:17 egrsteve_ bacon covered chocolated covered bacon
03:17 Hackbat D:<
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03:18 egrsteve_ ^^ thats what i nebt
03:18 egrsteve_ * ment
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03:19 Cprossu_netbook lol
03:20 Obtuse_lappy lol, just found this video ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuE97-tKt88
03:20 livefiretj lol
03:20 Cprossu_netbook how about chocolate flavored bacon cookies?
03:20 Obtuse_lappy chris saying don't do drugs
03:20 Obtuse_lappy in a freaky way
03:20 Cprossu_netbook wrapped in bacon
03:20 livefiretj creepy youtube
03:21 livefiretj I cant belive captin was going to but the old kazoo tb hospital
03:21 Obtuse_lappy hey guys tell me if you can all see this ... https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aji_plsE90C_dEMxV0VKUDVLRTlkOHJURklTbmJ2aXc&amp;hl=en_US
03:21 tonsofpcs lol Obtuse_lappy
03:21 Obtuse_lappy It's a video list of every video TGG has made
03:21 livefiretj see it obtuse
03:21 tonsofpcs yes, i can
03:22 Obtuse_lappy took a bit of html filtering
03:22 tonsofpcs view only
03:22 Obtuse_lappy but its finally there in its glory
03:22 Obtuse_lappy do you want edit?
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03:23 Obtuse_lappy The description and tags need to get in there somehow
03:23 tonsofpcs can't youu use the fancy google docs thing to pull data automagically?
03:23 Obtuse_lappy need to do like a wget of each link, and filter for the description
03:23 Obtuse_lappy and all the tags
03:24 CaptainBoden someone A: needs to do cross-reference keyword tagging, and B: learn about women.
03:24 Cprossu can someone do those 2 things at the same time, CaptainBoden ?!
03:24 CaptainBoden That's...impressive
03:24 Obtuse_lappy the list?
03:24 CaptainBoden no, once you've discovered women, things like that are lost forever.
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03:24 CaptainBoden yeah
03:24 livefiretj I got b down
03:25 Obtuse_lappy I'm always going nuts because i can't see a list
03:25 Obtuse_lappy of all of the videos other than thumbnails
03:25 CaptainBoden You're in The Geek Group IRC at 23:24hrs, I question the veracity of that statement.
03:25 Cprossu oh btw CaptainBoden do you have a hdmi to dvi cable or adaptor anywhere?
03:25 Cprossu because then you can plug in a 3rd monitor to your single card
03:25 tonsofpcs hey, what else would you do at 23:25 hours?
03:25 CaptainBoden I will in a couple days :) Just ordered one.
03:25 livefiretj yea but my woman is right next to me :P
03:25 livefiretj lol
03:25 livefiretj is she pretty or just a cooking one?
03:25 Cprossu and you can also use the mini-displayports too
03:25 Obtuse_lappy Is there a way to filter for tags "The geek group" and "tesla coil"
03:26 CaptainBoden Well I don't know what you're doing, but I'm about to go and throughly enjoy the company of a stunningly beautiful woman. Gnite. ;)
03:26 Obtuse_lappy on youtube?
03:26 Cprossu well enjoy CaptainBoden
03:26 livefiretj ditto
03:26 Obtuse_lappy night captain
03:26 tonsofpcs i'm sleeping to deal with crazy work things this week.  g'nite :)
03:26 Cprossu I'm about to look at the config file I made last night for jupiter
03:26 egrsteve night captain
03:26 Cprossu and see if I think I was smoking crack last night
03:26 tonsofpcs if you think you were but you weren't, what does that mean?  How about if you think you weren't but you were?
03:27 Cprossu because like most traumatic events I don't remember
03:27 Cprossu you know how you look at code or something you did
03:27 livefiretj I wouldnt smoke anyone bung hole
03:27 Cprossu after-the-fact
03:27 Cprossu and are like
03:27 Cprossu "What the fuck was I smoking?!"
03:27 livefiretj maybe you where surprise raped?
03:27 tonsofpcs nope, I design things early and fix them by the time it could get that far
03:28 Cprossu good plan
03:28 Cprossu I generally don't get to design things
03:28 Cprossu sadly
03:28 tonsofpcs no, i don't have time to plan
03:28 livefiretj I dont plan I impervise
03:28 tonsofpcs my design process involves at most 5 minutes of questioning use case and near-immediate implementation
03:28 Cprossu I get ...we have a square peg, a round hole, and some lube. make an engine out of it.
03:29 livefiretj push and shove?
03:29 Cprossu livefiretj how will it keep compression?
03:29 tonsofpcs livefiretj: nah.  Get a CNC mill and build the engine inside the square peg :)
03:29 Obtuse_lappy damnit, the ustream ad keeps bringing up this commercial about being a mom
03:29 * egrsteve hads Cprossu a the sledg-o-matic
03:29 livefiretj lol
03:29 * Cprossu asks egrsteve if it'll do a watermelon
03:29 Obtuse_lappy and I am not a FEMALE
03:29 Obtuse_lappy and do not care!
03:29 * egrsteve hands Cprossu  the sledg-o-matic
03:29 livefiretj cprossu thats what the lbe is for
03:30 livefiretj lube*
03:30 livefiretj are you sure obtuse
03:30 * Cprossu raises his sledg-o-matic and almost hits the watermelon and stops
03:30 livefiretj ...?
03:30 * Cprossu bashes a can of corn and it sprays everyone in IRC
03:30 * egrsteve wipes the inside of his moniter
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03:30 Cprossu but.... Will it do...... a watermelon?!
03:31 Cprossu YES IT WILL! *SMASH!*
03:31 livefiretj * wipes face off
03:31 Cprossu egrsteve I bet most people here are too young to catch the reference
03:31 Cprossu I wonder if it's on yt
03:31 egrsteve probably
03:31 Cprossu don't forget, never let your mom cut your hair!
03:32 livefiretj yt has everything
03:32 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gasAFyonmmI
03:32 Cprossu ^edumacation time IRC!
03:32 tonsofpcs nyawy, about to pass out, cya
03:33 Cprossu this is important for everyone
03:33 Cprossu even you tonsofpcs if you didn't catch the reference
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03:34 Thermoelectric Argh, when/why did Thermo-Away drop out, guys?
03:35 Cprossu who knows
03:35 Cprossu Thermoelectric, do you know what the sled-o-matic is?
03:35 Thermoelectric Not off the top of my head.
03:35 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gasAFyonmmI
03:35 Cprossu ^edumacation time then
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03:36 Thermoelectric M'kay.
03:36 Cprossu and read the log if you don't know why
03:36 mantere Thermoelectric i think he dropped out about 19 hours ago
03:37 Thermoelectric I shall check the log, thanks Cprossu and mantere. Always wonderful being a few hundred km's away from ones box.
03:38 Thermoelectric Huh.. My box dropped 2 minutes after I left...
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03:40 Cprossu Gallagher for the win.
03:40 Thermoelectric Oh well, Pidgin probably lost the will to live... again. Later gaters. :P
03:41 Cprossu lates
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03:42 Toastdude Cprossu: All I saw was "Gall" and I thought it was Gallefrey....
03:42 Toastdude Wait.... Nvm
03:43 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 5 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: obtuse on TGG Videos in a spreadsheet!.....Radioactive on Industrial servo motor thread......Bill Jones on Power Wheels Robot.....baldbrad on AC line weirdness on the scope.....python on WO-33 Oscilloscope Repair Help
03:47 Cprossu egrsteve omg
03:47 Cprossu http://cgi.ebay.com/Allen-Bradley-Push-Button-Jumbo-Mushroom-Red-800T-D6-/350123213862?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item5184f84426
03:48 Cprossu big red button of science is big red button of expensive
03:49 Cprossu http://cgi.ebay.com/ALLEN-BRADLEY-RED-PUSH-BUTTON-800T-D6J-NEW-BOX-/320678127600?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item4aa9e7e7f0
03:49 Cprossu getting there
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03:55 Cprossu hey egrsteve
03:55 Cprossu http://cgi.ebay.com/Allen-Bradley-800T-N247R-Jumbo-Mushroom-Cap-/330501528691?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item4cf36d1c73
03:55 Cprossu ^ hrmmmmm
03:56 LinuxH4x0r big button of science?
03:56 Cprossu my guess at what it is
03:56 Cprossu anyway
03:56 douglas_ hi
03:57 LinuxH4x0r I think I have a new obsession
03:57 Cprossu hi douglas_
03:57 LinuxH4x0r 1977 alfa romeo alfetta
03:57 Cprossu oh god
03:57 Cprossu do you own it?
03:57 LinuxH4x0r I'm going to try to get one for an electric conversion
03:57 Cprossu ok lol
03:57 LinuxH4x0r http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/690/p6040733fx9.jpg
03:57 LinuxH4x0r the thing behind the muffler is the clutch
03:57 Cprossu you shouldn't have any problem finding a blown up one at least
03:57 LinuxH4x0r not mounted on the motor
03:58 LinuxH4x0r makes conversion a simple bolt on procedure
03:58 Cprossu brakes are gonna suck
03:58 Cprossu lol
03:58 LinuxH4x0r ?
03:58 Cprossu inboard
03:58 LinuxH4x0r does it really make them any worse?
03:58 Cprossu yes
03:58 Cprossu by far
03:58 Cprossu (to work on that is)
03:58 LinuxH4x0r i rather like the design as an engineer
03:58 LinuxH4x0r ahh
03:59 LinuxH4x0r I though you meant performance
03:59 Cprossu as a mechanic all you'll think is !@#$
03:59 LinuxH4x0r thats not an issue for me
03:59 LinuxH4x0r i love working on those sorts of things
03:59 Cprossu I wish leadhead was here to yell obsenities lol
03:59 LinuxH4x0r hehe
04:00 LinuxH4x0r honestly i love the design
04:00 LinuxH4x0r that picture is better than porn for me
04:01 Cprossu probably the same way this is for me
04:01 Cprossu http://chrisescars.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/2011-Mopar-V10-Challenger-Drag-Pak-7.jpg
04:02 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW7SEIulmZQ&amp;feature=related
04:02 LinuxH4x0r brb, need new underwear :P
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04:04 Cprossu wb douglas_
04:05 douglas_ lol TY
04:15 Hackbat :\ Anyone else see this?
04:15 Hackbat http://www.whykalamazoo.net/2010/04/kalamazoo-geek-group-back-taxes/
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04:18 egrsteve hackbat, that is old, TGG is a 501.c3 and therefore does not pay property taxes traditionally
04:19 Hackbat I know
04:19 Hackbat but the article is a lil harsh D:
04:19 egrsteve and that artical fails to mention that, very one sided
04:20 egrsteve although the webbed feet is new to me, I wonder if it's true
04:20 egrsteve I should ask kidwell next time he's in town
04:21 douglas_ Cprossu, anny sugjestions as to the buttions?
04:21 douglas_ its so anoying, i need someone to tell me how to write javascript, i think
04:21 Hackbat Can I ask, is TGG still fighting Kazoo?
04:23 egrsteve I do not know the status of the fight if they are still continuing it or not
04:26 egrsteve that is a chris question
04:31 Cprossu douglas_ hrmmmm
04:32 Cprossu let me see how the google doc has changed since I last looked at it, douglas_
04:35 Druidic_Rifleman I'd like to now about the KZOO fight.
04:35 douglas_ know?
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04:38 Lead what up guys
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04:42 Druidic_Rifleman wondering whats going on with the Kzoo fight
04:42 LeadHead kzoo fight?
04:43 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Bill Jones on Power Wheels Robot
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05:25 Cprossu so
05:25 Cprossu anyone here want to TF2 it?
05:25 Cprossu I haven't played in months
05:25 Cprossu and I feel like pwning some noobs
05:26 Cprossu if you don't have TF2, get it, as it's freakin' free
05:30 egrsteve my brother has been addicted to it all weekend
05:30 egrsteve on the other hand, I lack coordination
05:30 egrsteve and I need sleep soon
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05:34 dr_jkl hi
05:35 Cprossu lol you don't need coordination to play tf2
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05:41 Druidic_Rifleman how large a file is it?
05:43 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: MattG on DARPA contacts?.....DruidicRifleman on Power Wheels Robot
05:45 egrsteve I have no hand I coordination, I am horrible at video games period, I tend to over compensate movements
05:45 egrsteve * eye hand coordination...
05:46 egrsteve but sometime I will give it a try again and let you know
05:55 Cprossu hahah ok
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06:24 Druidic_Rifleman Cprossu how much tourqe does a wet saw use?
06:25 Druidic_Rifleman and are they less loud then A Mettal cutting disk
06:50 * Hackbat felt manly today.
06:50 * Hackbat cut through sheey metal with a dremel
06:50 Hackbat *sheet
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11:43 ynos g'morning all
11:54 Hackbat Heyo!
11:55 * Hackbat has done so much in the past hour
12:22 tonsofpcs hi
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12:51 ynos gdamn i hate monday morning meetings
12:51 ynos just finished one, have another in 9 minutes..
13:01 CaptainBoden Gmorning gentlemen
13:06 Seroster Ahoy capn
13:12 wub Anyone know anything about how cell phone signals can be boosted inside of buildings?
13:12 wub I know things exist, I just don't know where to start
13:19 ynos what kind of service?
13:19 ynos you can find cell repeaters on teh intertubes
13:21 ynos http://cellphones.about.com/od/phoneglossary/tp/gsmcdmatdma.htm
13:23 ynos http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=3g+repeater
13:23 ynos all depends on what phone/network you are using.
13:27 wub ah
13:28 wub Well, there's probably a variety of users in the building here.  I'll have to take a poll.
13:34 tonsofpcs BotSteve: tell egrsteve I just got an ad for these connectors... look interesting... http://www.radiall.com/radiall/easysite/radiall/home (BNCs)
13:34 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
13:34 tonsofpcs thanks
13:34 tonsofpcs wub: yes.
13:34 tonsofpcs wub: the legality of doing such varies greatly depending on where you are.
13:40 tonsofpcs BotSteve: tell egrsteve they even make it for 1694A!
13:40 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
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13:44 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Craig Bailey on vacuum in air
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13:50 RedneckNinja Hello people of the world! Quick question, is anyone else also hearing radio-chatter on the livestream? Like police-radio?
13:51 asnopus Yea the scanner is left on over night
13:51 RedneckNinja Cool, thought I was picking up something that wasn´t supposed to be there, but then I guess it is alright
13:52 asnopus I think the reason for why its on is just so somethings happening over night
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14:40 speedrunnerG55 Hi
14:40 BotSteve speedrunnerG55: I have the following messages for you:
14:40 BotSteve At 00:49Z, tonsofpcs asked me to tell speedrunnerG55 it's irrelevant at this point.  It's a UI mockup not a functional model.
14:41 speedrunnerG55 ...oh
14:44 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Tysk on TGG Videos in a spreadsheet!
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14:48 maglinvinn_work yar
14:49 * Ponko92 throws football at speedrunnerG55 shouts heads when its a yard from him
14:50 speedrunnerG55 I cant play footbal
14:50 speedrunnerG55 Im taking a final exam
14:51 Ponko92 well hi to you 2 speedy
14:52 staccers haha, topnews in sweden: "74years old arrested for being using cannabis for medical use"
14:52 * maglinvinn_work intercepts a football thats been 2 minutes in the air
14:52 staccers im live in a stupid country
14:53 Ponko92 lol maglinvinn_work it was going in slow motion like that sence in scart movie
14:53 Ponko92 scary*
14:53 Ponko92 2
14:54 Ponko92 and my spelling kinda sucks today
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14:54 Ponko92 well i say today
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15:12 Seroster Lol @ newspaper
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15:12 Seroster HUGE drama about the crematorium "WTF are we going to do with this HUGE container full of titanium body parts? Is it ethical to sell for a couple of thousands bucks?"
15:13 Cprossu_Laptop good morning everyone
15:13 ynos g'morning
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15:28 Ponko92 hmmm
15:28 Ponko92 too quiet
15:31 Cprossu_Laptop I was trying to think of a good 'holmes on holmes' joke for the floor epoxy but all I could think of was "Mad scientist lab renovations with boden"
15:32 Cprossu_Laptop or perhaps "This old lab"
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15:39 speedrunnerG55 Hi
15:40 Ponko92 lol Cprossu
15:45 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: baldbrad on AC line weirdness on the scope
15:54 speedrunnerG55 Hi Cprossu guess what
15:54 Cprossu what?
15:54 speedrunnerG55 I played in a tornament of asteroids on an atari 2600 8bit computer yesterday
15:54 speedrunnerG55 Lol
15:55 Cprossu the question is did you win?
15:55 speedrunnerG55 I won the first round
15:55 speedrunnerG55 Then i lost
15:55 speedrunnerG55 Im starting fiber now
15:56 speedrunnerG55 :D
15:56 speedrunnerG55 \o/
16:00 speedrunnerG55 I hqve q friends name who is juan. And he won the fist round in a different group. We were like you are number juan. Juan jua
16:00 speedrunnerG55 Juan*
16:06 Ponko92 speedy
16:08 Seroster I got a package with a 9 by 10 cm box with a paper in a 18 by 26 box xD
16:10 Seroster And inside....  A tiny phone, a square of toilet paper called the manual and a charger xD
16:10 speedrunnerG55 What Ponko92 ?
16:10 * speedrunnerG55 pokes Ponko92
16:11 Ponko92 yes
16:16 Seroster I and my girlfriend got so wildly differing ideas on how to unpack a phone...
16:17 Seroster She rips evrything out, gets the battery hatch open by dumb luck, puts in cards n shit, and then spends an hour poking around in the phone
16:18 Seroster I open up, perferably with rubber gloves, read how to open hatch, insert battery and SIM card, plug it in, wait for the battery to charge to full and spend the time waiting by reading the manual
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16:33 tonsofpcs unpack a phone?
16:33 Cprossu_Laptop I take my phone out, wham the battery door off, magically get the battery from the package, stuff it in, rip out the ac adapter, plug it in and turn it on+screw with it while it's charging... the manual usually ends up in a forsaken corner where it sits inside the box still sealed but kept for warranty issues as the phone will spend the rest of it's miserable life being torn apart and
16:33 Cprossu_Laptop banged up with the keys, leathermans and shit in my pocket.
16:33 tonsofpcs oh, new phone setup
16:33 Cprossu_Laptop I'd say my phones age visible wise a year in 3 months
16:33 tonsofpcs yea, what Cprossu_Laptop said :-p
16:34 tonsofpcs my torch is actually doing pretty well for aging
16:34 tonsofpcs only sign of wear is the finish striping off a bit around the front side of the bezel.  the bold shows damage all around
16:34 Cprossu_Laptop I had an LG Vx7000 for years
16:34 Cprossu_Laptop and couldn't kill it
16:34 tonsofpcs I still have my first Nokia phone.
16:34 Cprossu_Laptop every time I'd brake a phone I'd have to use it again
16:34 Cprossu_Laptop *break
16:34 Cprossu_Laptop lol
16:35 Cprossu_Laptop the last one I got though
16:35 tonsofpcs We used to play catch with it in college.  It's dropped 3 flights of stairs.  While on.  And received phone calls while we played catch.
16:35 Cprossu_Laptop has been tough as nails
16:35 Cprossu_Laptop I even as a demo
16:35 Cprossu_Laptop of how tough it is
16:35 Cprossu_Laptop drop the thing on concrete
16:35 tonsofpcs GSM, color screen, I unlocked it (it was AT&T blue...)
16:35 Cprossu_Laptop 19/20 times the battery door doesn't even fall off
16:35 Cprossu_Laptop and the battery still doesn't fling out even then
16:36 tonsofpcs difference between a good phone and a Moto Razr:  both can drop 6' and be fine.  The moto razer shatters after being dropped 2" onto a table, the other doesn't.
16:36 Cprossu_Laptop Samsung Alias 2
16:37 Cprossu_Laptop the reason I picked it was it was a flip phone, had a neat keyboard, was $70 for all 5 phones (that's $20 plus taxes minus rebated for all 5 phones) for the 2 year contract
16:37 Cprossu_Laptop and no smartphone tax.
16:38 Cprossu_Laptop we are on the air
16:38 Cprossu_Laptop tggCaptainBoden
16:41 SparkyProjects Stream keeps freezing for me, anyone else ?
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16:41 tonsofpcs *checks*
16:43 tonsofpcs tgg website is having trouble loading here... *checks internets*
16:43 Cprossu_Laptop the tgg website is on a different  connection, tonsofpcs
16:43 Cprossu_Laptop dreamhost.
16:44 tonsofpcs right, but the link to the video is there and i'm at work so it's not bookmarked
16:44 Cprossu .stream
16:44 BotSteve The Geek Group Live Web Stream can be found at: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-geek-group-behind-the-scenes-live-feed
16:44 tonsofpcs *steals from topic*
16:44 stevereynolds the stream is up in the uk :)
16:44 Cprossu we're blanked out here
16:44 tonsofpcs blanked out?
16:44 SparkyProjects Black
16:45 stevereynolds it blanked a sec ago, came back and now just a frozen chris
16:45 Cprossu yeah I'll tell him
16:45 Cprossu as soon as the net comes back up
16:45 tonsofpcs i just get spinny circle
16:46 stevereynolds they're probably restarting everything
16:46 Cprossu yeah tonsofpcs, just fyi, imagine bars with "technical difficulties" on it, 1khz(BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP)
16:46 tonsofpcs seems like a script is borked on tgg.org .-- ah, here we go
16:46 tonsofpcs Cprossu: you can set some stream providers like ustream to do that... not sure if ustream can
16:46 SparkyProjects It's almost like a cache fills up and makes things go haywire
16:46 tonsofpcs mogulus (or whatever they call themselves now) definitely can
16:46 Cprossu we're dumping ustream
16:46 Cprossu lol
16:46 stevereynolds thank god
16:47 Cprossu wow.
16:47 Cprossu dead
16:47 Cprossu I lost my vnc connection to the mc box
16:48 stevereynolds restarting the router i would guess
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16:49 SparkyProjects Is there any way to connect Thumper to Ustream :D
16:49 Cprossu_Laptop SparkyProjects: didn't you see the 10b1800 test?
16:49 SparkyProjects Your card ? yes
16:50 Cprossu_Laptop there's your interface
16:50 Cprossu_Laptop it had both rj45 and coax.
16:50 SparkyProjects But it wasn't connected to the net :P
16:50 Cprossu_Laptop rofl
16:51 Cprossu 9    81 ms    83 ms    86 ms  pos-0-12-0-0-cr01.chicago.il.ibone.comcast.net [
16:51 Cprossu 68.86.85.249]
16:51 Cprossu 10     *        *        *     Request timed out.
16:51 Cprossu 11     *        *
16:51 Cprossu_Laptop =(
16:52 SparkyProjects Maybe Chris is so fed up with the stream PC that he's Thumperising it
16:52 Cprossu_Laptop I wouldn't blame him
16:52 Cprossu_Laptop but he isn't
16:52 Cprossu_Laptop the router however
16:52 Cprossu_Laptop ....
16:53 stevereynolds i'm guessing no luck reconnecting to the vnc yet?
16:54 Cprossu yay
16:54 Cprossu back online
16:54 stevereynolds huragh!
16:54 SparkyProjects I'm just wondering, with Adobe uploader there's an option to save to dvr, i'm wondering if this is enabled and filling up the hdd
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16:57 SparkyProjects Is that you back on vnc cprossu ?
16:57 Cprossu yeah
16:57 SparkyProjects cool :)
16:59 Cprossu the stream latency is fucking high though
16:59 Cprossu and it's fucked up again
17:00 SparkyProjects Yep
17:01 SparkyProjects Ask if Adobe flash media encoder has the dvr option enabled Cprossu
17:01 Cprossu lol that's not the issue rofl
17:01 SparkyProjects It doesn't need to be if they aren't saving the stream
17:02 Cprossu SparkyProjects the issue is the internet connection is flaking out
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17:02 SparkyProjects ah, ok
17:04 Cprossu 5 second delay back :)
17:04 Cprossu back to normal
17:05 SparkyProjects At least now Liz isn't jumping around :D
17:06 Cprossu testing latency, watch mc control screen at :07:00 (10 seconds from now)
17:07 Cprossu 3 seconds cool
17:07 SparkyProjects :)
17:07 Cprossu again at :30
17:07 Cprossu very nice
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17:07 tonsofpcs read "w.sharethis.com" seems to be where it hangs....
17:08 tonsofpcs *updates firefox*
17:08 Cprossu tonsofpcs: on tgg website?
17:08 Cprossu *tries*
17:09 SparkyProjects O.O, the ad has a mute button for audio
17:10 tonsofpcs Cprossu: yea
17:10 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: yea, but you have to press it every time
17:10 tonsofpcs is anyone at tggmc?
17:10 SparkyProjects Only the ghost in the machine
17:12 Ponko92 Cprossu with his 3 aliases you a CIA operative?
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17:14 Cprossu may
17:14 Cprossu_Laptop bye
17:14 Cprossu rofl
17:15 Cprossu just called the lab
17:15 Seroster Waiwhaaaa..
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17:17 Seroster Cprossu_Laptop, My old S/E folding phone was a fucking tank
17:18 Cprossu http://www.pdamobilephones.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/mobile-phone_sch-u750_features_kv.jpg
17:18 Cprossu ^ very happy with this
17:18 Cprossu I've beaten the tar outa mine
17:19 Cprossu that blueiish panel border is actually metal
17:19 Cprossu I know because I've worn mine down past the paint
17:20 Seroster Nice
17:24 * KB3NZQ will be back later my lappy needs to install updates and reboot
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17:26 Seroster Slutphone "insert correct SIMC"
17:26 Seroster ORITE?! U BETTER WATCH YOUR BACK, I MIGT INSERT A FUCKEN HAMMER, BITCH!
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17:29 Ponko92 .weather Luton
17:29 BotSteve Network error while retrieving weather. Wait 30 seconds and try again.
17:29 Ponko92 .tfwc Luton
17:29 BotSteve 26�C?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Luton, UK!  'It is safe to take your ball-mittens off.'
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17:30 Ponko92 .weather Phoenix
17:30 BotSteve Clear ☼, 100.4℉ (38℃), 29.75in (1004mb), Light breeze 4kt (↑) - KPHX 16:51Z
17:31 Ponko92 how dead is Cprossu or how much is the A/C being used
17:31 exor674 .tfw 80228
17:31 BotSteve 66�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Denver, CO!  'uh, can we trade?'
17:31 exor674 uh 66 wtf?
17:31 tonsofpcs .tfw 13760
17:31 BotSteve 75�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Endicott, NY!  'It's that kind of day where you want zip off pants, until you realize how much of a jackass you look like in them.'
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17:32 Ponko92 .weather Fairbanks
17:32 BotSteve Network error while retrieving weather. Wait 30 seconds and try again.
17:32 tonsofpcs lol
17:32 Ponko92 .tfwc Fairbanks
17:32 BotSteve 17�C?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Fairbanks, AK!  'Everything's nice butter weather!'
17:32 speedrunnerG55 Hi
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17:34 Cprossu .tfwc 85020
17:34 BotSteve 37�C?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'sweating my balls off'
17:35 Ponko92 is the A/C on full pelt?
17:36 Cprossu my room is only slightly ac'ed
17:36 exor674 I don't need it today, but i don't even *HAVE* an AC :'(
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17:46 ynos .tfw 49508
17:46 BotSteve 66�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE AND WET IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'READ A FUCKIN' BOOK'
17:47 Python .tfw 44256
17:47 BotSteve 78�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Medina, OH!  'OPEN A FUCKING WINDOW'
17:47 Cprossu .tfw 85020
17:47 BotSteve 100�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'I just saw a fucking bird panting.'
17:47 ynos you can have yer heat
17:47 ynos i dont want any
17:48 * ynos thinks AZ's grapes are sour!
17:48 Python 80 is hot, 100 is just too much ...
17:48 ynos agreed
17:49 speedrunnerG55 Err?
17:49 ynos around here, when it is 100 deg, the humidity is arounf 80%
17:49 ynos if not more..
17:50 ynos 2 years ago when we hit 100, i remember the weather guys saying "It's a scorcher out there, 100 degrees with 100% humidity! And its not going to rain!"
17:51 ynos it was still fcking hot at 80mph on the motorcycle.
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17:57 * speedrunnerG55 pokes around
17:58 * speedrunnerG55 pokes Cprossu
17:58 * speedrunnerG55 pokes tonsofpcs
18:09 Seroster I like drinking carbonated bewerages while watching movies with my girlfriend, save up for an emotial moment and then let all the co2 out. Amuses me on a deep deep spinal level.
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18:15 Druidic_Rifleman whats up
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18:19 * speedrunnerG55 pokes Druidic_Rifleman
18:19 * Druidic_Rifleman retalliates with an conductive enrgy poking stick
18:19 speedrunnerG55 M
18:20 speedrunnerG55 M
18:20 mantere hey speedrunnerG55 you had some problems with button images yesterday? did you get that resolved?
18:20 speedrunnerG55 No
18:21 mantere you were working on html, right?
18:21 speedrunnerG55 Yes
18:22 mantere and the problem was exactly? borders in the images or on the tables cells?
18:22 mantere on the images*
18:23 speedrunnerG55 The immages
18:23 speedrunnerG55 You know when you make a buttion. It has a default look with text in it
18:24 speedrunnerG55 That gray collor.
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18:28 maglinvinn_work upload it so we can see?
18:28 maglinvinn_work and <img src="blah.jpg"  border=0>
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18:29 maglinvinn_work ooh,  buttons.  yah, buttons.
18:29 mantere <input style="border-width:0px">
18:29 maglinvinn_work flash.
18:29 maglinvinn_work or css.
18:29 maglinvinn_work yeah, that
18:29 speed-mobile Hi
18:29 speed-mobile Css?
18:29 maglinvinn_work Cascading Style Sheets
18:29 maglinvinn_work isn't it?
18:29 mantere yeah
18:30 speed-mobile How do i do that?
18:30 maglinvinn_work something liek that
18:30 maglinvinn_work anyway, border-width is a parameter you can set for any graphical object.
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18:30 maglinvinn_work you can build the style right in the tag w/ the object, or create a separate sheet for it
18:30 speed-mobile Right now its <button> [immage]</button>
18:30 speed-mobile is now known as speedrunnerG55
18:31 speedrunnerG55 How do i do that
18:31 maglinvinn_work style="border-width:0px">
18:31 maglinvinn_work as mantere posted.
18:31 speedrunnerG55 Whithin the input tag
18:32 speedrunnerG55 ...and you dont close it do you?
18:32 speedrunnerG55 So i would  <input style="border-width:0px">[immage]
18:33 mantere you could try <button style="border-width:0px">
18:33 mantere see if that helps
18:33 speedrunnerG55 ..ok ill do that when im home
18:34 Druidic_Rifleman whats up maglinvinn_work
18:36 speedrunnerG55 And also. How can i specify anotger immage for when its pressed?
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18:52 maglinvinn_work speedrunner- javascript
18:52 maglinvinn_work whats up druid
18:52 speedrunnerG55 Javascript?
18:53 speedrunnerG55 How do i do that?
18:53 maglinvinn_work uhm
18:53 maglinvinn_work its not as easy, but there's things like 'on mouse over' and various other events that you can document write a different image in
18:53 maglinvinn_work do you want the image while its pressed
18:54 maglinvinn_work or does it persist even after mouse-up
18:55 speedrunnerG55 Ye. I remember doing this in school
18:55 speedrunnerG55 Yes i want mouse over. And presistance
18:55 speedrunnerG55 And if i can a down immage
18:55 speedrunnerG55 I dont have adobe fireworks. So idk how
18:56 speedrunnerG55 *rollover* i thought it wass called
19:02 * speedrunnerG55 flops about
19:04 SparkyProjects "onmouseover"
19:04 SparkyProjects http://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_eventattributes.asp
19:06 speedrunnerG55 Oh
19:06 SparkyProjects w3schools is a good site for beginners with html, css etc
19:07 astro73|derrial it's also a good reference for us who don't remember all the names
19:07 SparkyProjects True :)
19:08 SparkyProjects w3schools and dynamicdrive are my most visited for codes :D
19:09 ynos is now known as ynos|away
19:09 injection I spent a good 45 minutes at the EMC yelling at them for crappy electric service
19:10 injection Voltage isn't supposed to drop when it storms or you get a wind gust
19:18 injection I'd rather get my power from a faceless corporation than an EMC because at least with the faceless corporation you don't have issues like this
19:31 mantere speedrunnerG55 here's also a simple way of making rollor/pressed image with just html and css http://pastebin.com/PQ9SebuM
19:31 speedrunnerG55 Ohhh
19:31 * speedrunnerG55 clicks
19:32 speedrunnerG55 Holy crap
19:35 dr_jkl hey
19:35 dr_jkl who's at the lab right now?
19:35 dr_jkl BotSteve: tell CaptainBoden  you seen this yet? http://www.businessinsider.com/wikimedia-servers-2011-6
19:35 BotSteve dr_jkl: I'll pass that on when CaptainBoden is around.
19:36 mantere color:...; and background-color:none; in the css part aren't really needed in that example though. i just forgot to take them off :F
19:37 masterofmonks Ok, so this this ticks me off...
19:37 masterofmonks Why in the hell would I need to restart my computer to instal Firefox 5?
19:38 masterofmonks Eh, whatever, brb.
19:40 speedrunnerG55 Fox 5 is out?
19:40 speedrunnerG55 Zunks
19:41 Druidic_Rifleman LOL DUDE that would be awesome doc
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19:44 BotSteve Spatula.
19:47 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: really?  I didn't have to... maybe some plugin?
19:47 tonsofpcs dr_jkl: he's seen it.  Was discussed last week, iirc.
19:47 tonsofpcs injection:
19:47 tonsofpcs EMC?
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19:59 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Bill Jones on Power Wheels Robot
20:05 mantere so is the distortion we see in the mc and weather cameras while gemini is running, caused by not enough shielding on the cables or lack of shielding on the cameras? or am i just way off? just asking out of curiosity.
20:14 Cprossu as far as I know we're not running ferrite cores on anything just yer
20:14 Cprossu *yet
20:15 Cprossu 'shielding' against an RF generator like gemini might be a challenge though
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20:26 hubzcaps the smiths.....good jams    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U5HpeA_WSo&amp;NR=1
20:27 hubzcaps cprossu   dude your card got nicely baked!!!   pci network card got seriously shorted haha
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20:53 douglas_ hi
20:54 douglas_ can i have that link? plez?
20:54 speedrunnerG55 Ok http://pastebin.com/PQ9SebuM
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20:59 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: obtuse on TGG Videos in a spreadsheet!
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21:07 injection tonsofpcs, Electric Membership Corporation
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21:10 egrsteve hello
21:10 BotSteve egrsteve: I have the following messages for you:
21:10 BotSteve At 13:34Z, tonsofpcs asked me to tell egrsteve I just got an ad for these connectors... look interesting... http://www.radiall.com/radiall/easysite/radiall/home (BNCs)
21:10 BotSteve At 13:40Z, tonsofpcs asked me to tell egrsteve they even make it for 1694A!
21:19 Druidic_Rifleman al caponds colt 38 sold recently apparewntly for 109,080 USD
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21:32 exor674 mmm I love the smell of rain
21:34 Ponko92 hubzcaps you a fan of charmed?
21:34 stevereynolds .tfwc london
21:35 BotSteve 21�C?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN London, UK!  'What would you do for a holyshititsniceout bar?'
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21:41 Ponko92 hubzcaps i hope you're a mozzfather fan
21:41 master0fmonks is now known as masterofmonks
21:41 Ponko92 SpeedrunnerG55 is very good bloke :)
21:42 speedrunnerG55 What???
21:45 Ponko92 Today is Speedrunner appreciation day!  Take a moment and compliment a Speedrunner near you
21:45 Ponko92 i complimented you :)
21:45 Ponko92 I'm THROWING my arms arounnnd,
21:46 Ponko92 egrsteve you a Mozzer fan
21:49 Druidic_Rifleman Ok sooo short of going through and turning off auto start up for prgrams like MSN and skype
21:49 Druidic_Rifleman does any one know a faster way to turn auto start up on programs off with windows 7 beta
21:50 masterofmonks Beta?
21:50 masterofmonks Seriously?
21:50 Ponko92 do you have them set up to sign in automatically?
21:51 Ponko92 because it'll do that every time
21:51 Ponko92 if yes
21:51 masterofmonks Run msconfig.
21:51 tonsofpcs auto start up on programs?
21:52 Druidic_Rifleman Windows 7 beta AKA vista :P
21:52 Druidic_Rifleman yeah
21:52 tonsofpcs Vista != 7
21:52 masterofmonks tonsofpcs: I agree.
21:52 tonsofpcs 7 isin $operatingsystems
21:53 Druidic_Rifleman windows 7 is pretty much service pack 3 vista
21:53 tonsofpcs not even close
21:53 masterofmonks I happen to run Vista and it runs well, but it is heavily tweaked.
21:53 masterofmonks Druidic_Rifleman: You won't run this argument, but to solve your problem run msconfig.
21:53 Druidic_Rifleman vista was a bad system for stupid people
21:53 * tonsofpcs has three workstations installed with 7 x64.  I'd never do that for Vista.
21:53 tonsofpcs I do have a machine running Vista x64 at home, but that wasn't the plan
21:54 tonsofpcs speaking of home, I'm going there.  cya.
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21:56 Sasha-iPhone Oh hai guys.
21:56 Sasha-iPhone .seen CaptainBoden
21:56 BotSteve Sasha-iPhone: I last saw captainboden 8.92 hours ago at 2011-06-27 13:01:20 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 21:56:29 UTC
21:57 douglas_ hi
21:57 douglas_ am i on?
21:57 * douglas_ checks phone. yep i am
21:57 Sasha-iPhone BotSteve: tell CaptainBoden if I were to send you something, which adress should I use?
21:57 BotSteve Sasha-iPhone: I'll pass that on when CaptainBoden is around.
21:58 douglas_ :D.... how big, say ?x? should i be making this UI into generally
21:58 douglas_ like the size of a facebook add?
21:59 Sasha-iPhone What are we talking about?
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22:04 injection Once again valve is failing http://goput.it/str/jcr.png
22:06 Cprossu_Laptop no shock there, injection
22:06 injection What do you expect from a bunch of ex-Microsoft developers
22:06 injection :P
22:06 Cprossu_Laptop no it's not even that
22:07 Cprossu_Laptop anything 'cloud related' has so many single failure points it's unreal that anyone sells anyone on it
22:09 injection When you mention "the cloud" I am reminded of "roaming profiles" on Windows
22:09 Cprossu_Laptop .tfw 85020
22:09 BotSteve 114�F?! ITS FUCKING...ARE YOU OKAY? IN Phoenix, AZ!  'SWIMMIN HOLE!'
22:09 injection both of which have single points of failure
22:09 Cprossu_Laptop holy fuck.
22:09 Cprossu_Laptop .tfwc 85020
22:09 BotSteve 45�C?! ITS FUCKING...ARE YOU OKAY? IN Phoenix, AZ!  'I just saw a fucking bird panting.'
22:10 injection .tfw 30281
22:10 BotSteve 86�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Stockbridge, GA!  'TAKE IT OFF!'
22:10 Cprossu_Laptop bird cooked and well done upside down in the middle of the street is more like it
22:10 injection Swamp cooler or central A/C?
22:10 Cprossu_Laptop central air BUT
22:11 Cprossu_Laptop this room's only connection
22:11 Cprossu_Laptop is a eskimo box fan
22:11 injection ouch
22:11 Cprossu_Laptop so it's at least ~95F in here or so
22:11 Cprossu_Laptop I could go get a thermometer
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22:31 * Sasha-iPhone is enjoying sleeping under the stars
22:32 * Sasha-iPhone and listening to the neighbours scream in italian at each other
22:32 Sgt_Lemming lol
22:32 Sgt_Lemming sleeping in the backyard?
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22:36 Sasha-iPhone Balcony ;)
22:37 Sgt_Lemming lol
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22:38 Sasha-iPhone Btw, i'm actually going to sleep now ;p
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22:47 tonsofpcs hi
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22:48 BigTank did i miss anything big today? i just came in.
22:48 tonsofpcs speedrunnerG55: just build the base UI, the sizing doesn't matter right now
22:48 speedrunnerG55 Hi
22:49 speedrunnerG55 Ok
22:49 NeWtoz you are a nice guy speedrunnerG55
22:49 speedrunnerG55 Because its a bit big right now
22:49 speedrunnerG55 ...
22:49 tonsofpcs is it up yet?
22:49 tonsofpcs (did anyone give you a place to put it? cus i have one)
22:49 speedrunnerG55 No.
22:50 speedrunnerG55 You talikng to me?
22:50 NeWtoz <Ponko92> Today is Speedrunner appreciation day!  Take a moment and compliment a Speedrunner near you
22:50 * tonsofpcs makes an ftp account
22:50 tonsofpcs NeWtoz: that was a week ago
22:50 speedrunnerG55 Still??
22:50 NeWtoz no wais
22:50 tonsofpcs Topic set by BatSteve [Mon Jun 20 00:43:12 2011]
22:51 NeWtoz that was a whole our ago
22:51 NeWtoz oh
22:51 NeWtoz I didn't see topic
22:51 BigTank Anyone? what happend today?
22:51 NeWtoz carry on
22:51 NeWtoz sorry to delay
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23:02 BotSteve Welcome back, boss.
23:02 BatSteve whatup all
23:02 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
23:02 BotSteve At 22 Jun 17:27Z, dr_jkl asked me to tell BatSteve ops plz.
23:02 BotSteve At 25 Jun 08:21Z, Druidic_Rifleman asked me to Tell BatSteve To set the message of the day to Happy Slut walk Grand rappids!!!
23:02 BotSteve At 25 Jun 22:03Z, Seroster asked me to tell BatSteve Ey. When you get back /msg seroster.
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23:04 Druidic_Rifleman welll
23:04 Druidic_Rifleman thats alittle late...
23:04 BatSteve yeah
23:04 Cprossu_Laptop_ .tfw 85020
23:04 Druidic_Rifleman tottally missed the slut walk
23:04 BotSteve 113�F?! ITS FUCKING...ARE YOU OKAY? IN Phoenix, AZ!  'Still not appropriate to wear a speedo though.'
23:04 Cprossu_Laptop_ is now known as Cprossu_netbook
23:05 tonsofpcs .tfw 13760
23:06 BotSteve 77�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Endicott, NY!  'I can't  believe it's not porn!'
23:06 tonsofpcs "I can't believe it's not an ad on ustream"
23:06 tonsofpcs oh, wait, it is...
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23:06 tonsofpcs wait, another steve?!
23:07 Cprossu_netbook that makes 3-4 steves I think
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23:48 injection Well there is nothing the electrical company can do about the power flickering during storms
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23:49 Cprossu_netbook hrmmm
23:49 Python .tfw 44256
23:49 BotSteve 79�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Medina, OH!  'WOO, Spring Break!'
23:50 * Python is having trouble cross compiling to the MIPS architecture
23:51 Python anyone else running linux here ?
23:53 BatSteve Python: yes, not sure if I can help you though
23:54 NeWtoz same
23:54 BatSteve Watcha need?
23:59 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: python on Power Wheels Robot

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