Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-06-29

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00:01 tonsofpcs i suppose i should confirm that i closed the sun roof....
00:03 Cprossu hey tggObtuse since tggmc is not online
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00:03 tonsofpcs it was .... ran back inside as the sky 'opened up'
00:04 tggmc joined #thegeekgroup
00:04 Cprossu welcome tggmc1
00:04 Cprossu welcome tggmc
00:04 compwiz878 lmao 2 oped sky lol
00:04 Cprossu put a faster proc in my streaming rig
00:05 Cprossu \trying to output in higher res
00:05 compwiz878 cprossu wut that high pitch noise in the audio ???
00:06 tggmc accordin to my sneezes this place has a rt60 of about 5 sec
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00:08 Sasha-iPhone Oh hai guys!
00:08 Cprossu rebooting my own stream
00:08 Cprossu bird?
00:08 Sasha-iPhone .seen CaptainBoden
00:08 BotSteve Sasha-iPhone: I last saw captainboden 0.32 hours ago at 2011-06-28 23:49:20 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:08:34 UTC
00:09 Sasha-iPhone Oh, CaptainBoden, you're online?
00:09 Cprossu ok booting back up
00:09 CaptainBoden I'm in and out, posting today's Captain's Blog right now
00:09 Cprossu a64 3200+ to a x2 3800+, rather big upgrade lol
00:10 CaptainBoden Who's in MC1?
00:11 tonsofpcs cool
00:12 tonsofpcs tggmc: anyone around to lug the chyron up?
00:12 tggObtuse was Steve
00:12 tggObtuse he is in robotics with me
00:13 CaptainBoden k
00:13 CaptainBoden Tell Steve there's a new outlet up by the garage door opener for a camera mount.
00:13 CaptainBoden There's also one on the wall next to the vehicle hoist above teh shelves.
00:14 tggObtuse k.
00:14 tonsofpcs CaptainBoden: did you receive my punch/patch suggestion for the TV600?
00:14 CaptainBoden no
00:14 CaptainBoden We're gonna most likely use a patchbay I have up there.
00:15 CaptainBoden Just terminate everything to TRS
00:15 Cprossu had to reinstall the graphics for the acpi multiprocessor move be up after that
00:15 tonsofpcs suggestion: wire everything from the TV600 to punch blocks (66 or 110/krone), then only wire to the patchbay things that need to be regularly patchable.  If you use 110/Krone blocks, you can get them with pre-installed amphenol connectors (RJ21X) and run a 50 pair to a studio from a block at the console.
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00:16 CaptainBoden How bad is that for noise?
00:16 tonsofpcs as long as the lines are balanced, it's great.
00:16 CaptainBoden That's a pretty damn good idea
00:16 tonsofpcs you use pair 1 for +/-, pair 2 for gnd1/gnd3, pair 3 for +/-
00:16 Sasha-iPhone CaptainBoden, I've been trying to ask you which adress I should use to send you some stuff for TGG…
00:17 tonsofpcs the krone blocks are awesome
00:17 CaptainBoden Especially since I have a fuckload of old 50pair laced throughout the building.
00:17 tonsofpcs our radio system is wired that way
00:17 tonsofpcs 66s are nice but not quite as awessome (as you need the bridge clips)
00:17 CaptainBoden You should come spend a weekend here with a punchdown tool ;)
00:18 tonsofpcs you should figure out a way for me to get more time off work :)
00:18 CaptainBoden There's a long weekend coming up
00:19 tonsofpcs there is... I plan on being in syracuse on monday afternoon... where's the nearest airport to GR?
00:19 CaptainBoden GR
00:19 CaptainBoden lol
00:19 tonsofpcs :)
00:19 tonsofpcs *checks flight patterns*
00:19 CaptainBoden There's a serious one, in town, 20min drive to the lab from there.
00:19 tonsofpcs know the icao code?
00:19 CaptainBoden GRR?
00:19 tonsofpcs *tries*
00:19 tonsofpcs *clicks "low cost flights*
00:20 CaptainBoden If you wanna come spend a long weekend with a punchdown tool, I'll get you a cameraman and you can do a really awesome video on patching in the Wheatstone.
00:21 tonsofpcs you have the d-sub connectors already?
00:21 CaptainBoden Teach people all about how it's done with punchdown blocks. I don't have the blocks, but we've got the cable.
00:21 CaptainBoden There are a bunch on the old cabling for the console.
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00:21 tonsofpcs Cat-5 cable or similar is actually great for it
00:21 tonsofpcs big stranded audio cable is doable but a bit more of a pain
00:22 tonsofpcs I use cat5 with shrink tube when i add things because I ran out of the single pair and double pair belden stuff
00:22 tggmc tonsof pcs it's here
00:22 tggmc tonsofpcs it's here
00:22 Sasha-iPhone CaptainBoden: ya know, I wanted to send you some LED stuff.
00:22 CaptainBoden ok
00:22 tonsofpcs tggmc: yay!
00:22 Cprossu CaptainBoden: just thought you'd like to see this
00:23 tonsofpcs CaptainBoden: is it local-made cable or is it the fancy colored prewire stuff from wheatstone?
00:23 Sasha-iPhone CaptainBoden: hence why I need to know which adress would be best. The leonard street one?
00:23 CaptainBoden looks engineer made
00:23 CaptainBoden use the lab address, always the lab address
00:23 CaptainBoden 902 Leonard NW, Grand RApids, MI, 49506
00:23 CaptainBoden shit, 49...wtf....
00:23 tonsofpcs tggmc: can you check the type of cable on the wheatstone wiring?
00:23 Sasha-iPhone K. Will send it tomorrow ;).
00:23 CaptainBoden 49504
00:23 Cprossu we are now outputting at 720x
00:24 tggmc hi captain
00:24 Cprossu x540
00:24 Cprossu or so
00:24 Cprossu at least I am
00:25 tonsofpcs 720x540? why not 720x480?
00:25 Cprossu input is 640x480
00:25 tonsofpcs ok, why not 640x480 then?
00:25 Cprossu that's as high as the cap card goes
00:25 compwiz878 woah theres a huge tv/ monitor on the console now
00:25 Cprossu CaptainBoden wanted to know if he could stream higher out to jusin.tv
00:26 Cprossu so yeah it's doable
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00:26 Cprossu at 960x720
00:27 Sasha-iPhone Ok whatevs guys. I need to sleep now, it's 2:25 am here :p !
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00:28 compwiz878 cprossu are u useing a vid cam or web cam on ur stream ??
00:28 Cprossu vid cam
00:28 compwiz878 kool
00:28 tonsofpcs hmm... > $550 one-way, >$900 round-trip... *checks drive time/gas consumption*
00:28 compwiz878 wut kinda cap card u got ?
00:30 tonsofpcs 10 hours, 656 miles... figure 32 gallons, $4 per gallon, $131... plus an oil change... $160....
00:31 CaptainBoden Bonus points if you show up here with a bunch of old cameras and tripods. lol
00:31 CaptainBoden Even junk tripods (we need teh heads more than the legs).
00:31 tonsofpcs $300 round trip... could be doable.  Probably not this weekend unless I can get Friday off...  Would be more doable if I picked someone in NY/PA up and gave them a ride too and shared cost
00:31 tonsofpcs CaptainBoden: I wonder if work wants to throw out a ped from a TK44
00:31 tonsofpcs (I can only fit one in the car :-p)
00:31 CaptainBoden I need to get about 50 cameras in total, big old TV rigs, basic SD stuff, and get them deployed mainly on custom wall mounts around the lab.
00:32 tonsofpcs (yes, one head, not one ped.  I don't think a ped would fit in my rav4)
00:33 tonsofpcs I have a JVC single-tube camera around here somewhere that I was using as a sync source for my toaster...
00:34 CaptainBoden lol
00:34 tonsofpcs it might be good for the HVL!
00:35 eadthem need to get someone to donate a highspeed camera for HVL   say 1000 FPS or better
00:35 Cprossu so there you have it\
00:35 Cprossu one kludgetastic stream rig
00:35 tonsofpcs lol
00:35 Sgt_Lemming hackerspace brisbane now has access to a 10'000FPS 16mm film camera
00:36 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: that's just silly
00:36 Sgt_Lemming unfortunate thing is it uses 100ft of film in that time
00:36 CaptainBoden Which is as useless as tits on a bowling ball.
00:36 CaptainBoden Exactly, I've used one....once. 35mm at some ungodly frame rate.
00:36 Sgt_Lemming we also have access to a 16mm digital telecine unit
00:36 CaptainBoden Went through a mile of film in a few seconds, though I loved to hear it come to speed, lol.
00:36 Cprossu It makes me want to make a bowling ball with tits, and then film it in slow motion going down the bowling alley
00:36 Sgt_Lemming problem is just the film
00:37 Sgt_Lemming lol
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00:39 compwiz878 wow trippy lol
00:39 tonsofpcs if you could use color negative on that and get a nice latitude, it'd be cool
00:39 Cprossu fun stuff
00:39 Cprossu and I was bored lol
00:39 compwiz878 lol
00:39 compwiz878 hey kids n there toys lmao
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00:40 compwiz878 wow i hear n echo
00:41 tonsofpcs I have a bunch of cameras in my profile pic on flickr, but only my T2i has video outputs (there is a super 8 movie camera though!)
00:41 compwiz878 ah good pint
00:41 compwiz878 yes
00:42 compwiz878 altho the echo was intermittent
00:42 compwiz878 yup
00:43 compwiz878 used to alway mess with mine back when i used to voice chat on paltalk and firetalk and yahoo messenger
00:43 Sgt_Lemming if TGG does want a cheap high speed camera though
00:43 Sgt_Lemming check out the Casio Exilim series
00:43 Sgt_Lemming they have a bunch of cheap high speed camera, some as cheap as $150 brand new
00:44 tonsofpcs rainfade is ruining my evening :(
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00:44 tonsofpcs I miss living in the NY market where rainfade doesn't hamper TV :(
00:45 compwiz878 rain fade
00:45 compwiz878 lol
00:45 CaptainBoden BNOTD = Slumcunt
00:45 compwiz878 must be on a dish
00:46 tonsofpcs compwiz878: i'm not, the network is
00:46 compwiz878 ah ic
00:46 compwiz878 lol
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00:46 tonsofpcs in NYC, they get 'network' by a wire running across the street / uptown a bit / similar.  Everywhere else, they usually have a dish.
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00:47 injektion Cable providers still use satellites at the headend in some places
00:47 tonsofpcs (ok, that wire is probably glass)
00:47 Cprossu so CaptainBoden questions comments, concerns?
00:47 compwiz878 yup they do inkjet
00:47 compwiz878 i live about 1/8th mile from the local comcast headend heer
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00:48 compwiz878 infact i can look out my window and c the antenna tower that up
00:48 injektion I remember about 3 years ago during one summer and certain channels displayed waiting for satellite feed
00:48 compwiz878 with those blinky red lights
00:48 injektion It was the famous history channel outage
00:49 * tonsofpcs has not had to deal with a 'bird' falling out of the sky.... yet.
00:49 compwiz878 but down below it theres a big huge building about the size of a 2-3 car garage with about 8 dishes next to it
00:49 Cprossu yay red blinky lights
00:49 Cprossu oh tggmc did the new labels take?
00:49 tonsofpcs compwiz878: that sounds like the local ABC station (the only one that's actually on the transmitter hill, the rest of us are at different places in town)
00:49 Cprossu on the saturn?
00:50 compwiz878 cprossu try to do some of those trippy visual effec ts that was done back in the 60's and early 70's
00:50 compwiz878 lol
00:50 compwiz878 like the liquid lights
00:50 compwiz878 lol
00:50 Cprossu compwiz878 lol
00:50 Cprossu this one doesn't do that
00:50 Cprossu I have
00:50 compwiz878 well it be kool tho
00:50 compwiz878 lol
00:50 Cprossu fade white/black
00:50 Cprossu and "enhance"
00:51 compwiz878 white out
00:51 compwiz878 lol
00:51 compwiz878 darkness falls
00:51 compwiz878 lol
00:51 compwiz878 enhance that
00:51 tonsofpcs compwiz878: my toaster can do that! :-p
00:52 Cprossu good deal tggmc
00:52 tonsofpcs oo, i hear steve on the netbook
00:52 tggmc captainboden can we hook a speaker to thumper some time
00:52 tonsofpcs (I can't make out what he's saying, but i can hear him!)
00:52 * tggmc wants to see a speaker sent through it's grill
00:52 compwiz878 and watch the voice coil blow across the room lol
00:52 tonsofpcs i heard "hello, tons......"
00:53 compwiz878 yes it would steve
00:53 eadthem mmm get a moderately sized subwoofer speaker for a car
00:53 compwiz878 well ull have that
00:53 compwiz878 lol
00:53 Fulsy Lmao
00:53 Cprossu nice to see you in the stream again, steve
00:53 eadthem then it might stand a good chance of launching before it burnes up
00:53 compwiz878 ive seen people put 110vac straight out of a wall outlet to subs
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00:53 SparkyProjects Cprossu on 95.7 The Parrot
00:53 compwiz878 and lettem sit til they blow
00:53 Cprossu 95.7 lol
00:53 eadthem man even after takine a shower i still have solder paste on my arm
00:54 CaptainBoden http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRU7JFGXYpM
00:54 compwiz878 xactly steve
00:54 Cprossu steve
00:54 Cprossu you gotta get me up on a computer
00:54 Cprossu we need to do a multi stream infinate loop
00:55 Fulsy lmao
00:55 compwiz878 ah hows about a audio only stream via shoucast ?
00:55 compwiz878 lol yup
00:56 Cprossu who said don't cross the streams again?
00:56 compwiz878 just like  a switch transmitt and recieve on radios
00:56 compwiz878 lol
00:56 Cprossu http://www.justin.tv/cprossu
00:56 tonsofpcs usteram ad :(
00:56 compwiz878 lol
00:56 compwiz878 wher u have 2 radios and one transmits on ther others recive freq and visa versa
00:57 SparkyProjects Crossing streams is only a problem if i got mine up too and crussed :D
00:57 compwiz878 lol
00:58 compwiz878 wow
00:58 compwiz878 thats trippy in a way
00:58 compwiz878 lol
00:59 compwiz878 parrots
00:59 compwiz878 wut kind ya got ?
00:59 compwiz878 ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
01:00 Fulsy o_o
01:00 compwiz878 noise in my ears
01:00 compwiz878 lol
01:00 compwiz878 man i used to have ear drums
01:01 Cprossu lol
01:01 compwiz878 used to have = past tense
01:01 compwiz878 lol
01:01 Cprossu video loop next
01:03 Cprossu lol ad
01:05 * tonsofpcs has stream off until it's ad-less
01:06 tonsofpcs so is anyone in the chat from PA?  Western/central or maybe NE?  Want to road trip to GR?
01:06 tonsofpcs (or upstate NY somewhere)
01:07 tonsofpcs or maybe cleveland/akron?
01:07 compwiz878 tons ofpc
01:07 tonsofpcs com pwiz
01:07 compwiz878 im in eastern ohio
01:07 * tonsofpcs is contemplating driving out on friday and back on monday
01:08 NeWtoz go beards!
01:08 compwiz878 im about 40 miles waest of pittsburgh
01:08 tonsofpcs it'll be a hard sell to my boss but I should be able to make it... (the other engineer is on vacation currently)
01:08 tonsofpcs I'm near binghamton, ny
01:09 tggObtuse there's one person in jersy
01:09 tggObtuse speedrunner is it?
01:09 tonsofpcs yea
01:10 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:
01:10 BotSteve Captain's Blog 6-28-11 MDH Progress and Rotobins http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRU7JFGXYpM
01:11 NeWtoz I gotta go do that responsible thing and get ready for work
01:11 tonsofpcs Yay blog.  will watch after tv show
01:11 tonsofpcs (or at next commercial)
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01:13 SparkyProjects Agree on sepia
01:13 douglas__ annyone here use xchat
01:13 tonsofpcs not in some time
01:13 tonsofpcs also, tggObtuse totally just summoned you
01:14 douglas__ how can i change my default name?
01:14 tonsofpcs in options somewhere
01:14 tggObtuse I summoned?
01:14 douglas__ how did he summon me?
01:14 tggObtuse but i do use xchat
01:14 tonsofpcs 21:09:36 < tggObtuse> there's one person in jersy
01:14 tonsofpcs 21:09:42 < tggObtuse> speedrunner is it?
01:14 tggObtuse oh.
01:15 tggObtuse that
01:15 douglas__ how long ago was that?
01:15 tggObtuse that wasn't summoning
01:15 tggObtuse that was just pointing out common knowledge
01:15 douglas__ tggObtuse, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW
01:15 tonsofpcs 3 minutes before you joined
01:15 douglas__ I CANT FIND IT
01:16 douglas__ oops caps
01:16 douglas__ lol
01:16 tggObtuse HOW TO WHAT!
01:16 SparkyProjects YAY !!
01:16 tggObtuse LOUD NOISES!
01:16 douglas__ how to change my default name
01:16 tggObtuse ... /nick newname
01:16 Cprossu it's the net-a-pocolyspe !
01:16 tggObtuse no dots
01:17 * douglas__ runs away from ipv6
01:17 tggObtuse did my playing of streaming music just cause a massive problem on the stream?
01:17 Cprossu somehow I doubt it
01:17 douglas__ no the default name
01:18 douglas__ is now known as speed_linux
01:18 tggObtuse cuz I like trance while I work on stuff
01:19 Cprossu lol tggObtuse I don't think you are sucking all the BW away
01:19 Cprossu that kind of thing takes a torrent or a virus
01:19 speed_linux im going to use this opertunity to FTP
01:19 Cprossu or a route loop
01:19 speed_linux tonsofpcs, you here?
01:19 tonsofpcs ok, time to watch captians blog
01:19 Cprossu same here
01:19 speed_linux 0_0 darn it
01:20 SparkyProjects I'm only on a 2mb connection and have had my stream uploading and downloadin, plus your Cprossu, plus i did a check earlier on TGG, all at the same time, so something must be big on there
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01:22 tggObtuse there's nothing happening at the lab really
01:22 Bat-Mobile BotSteve: tell csmonster I have a picture to show her.
01:22 BotSteve Bat-Mobile: I'll pass that on when csmonster is around.
01:22 tggObtuse steve and I have been looking at Etherape
01:22 tonsofpcs that's kinda awesome cases
01:22 Cprossu let me know what it looks like
01:22 tggmc tggobtuse contuntinue
01:22 tggObtuse find out who has the ip 239.255.255.250
01:23 tggObtuse i think its comcast
01:23 Cprossu yay rotobins
01:23 tonsofpcs tggObtuse: it's multicast, no?
01:23 tggObtuse every now and then you see this big spike to one of the nodes here
01:23 tggObtuse no idea, tons of pcs
01:24 Cprossu No match for "239.255.255.250".
01:24 Cprossu >>> Last update of whois database: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 01:23:11 UTC <<<
01:24 tonsofpcs Cprossu: check the IP allocation table from IANA.  I'm pretty sure 239 is multicast
01:24 tggObtuse eh, back to arduinoing. damn thing isn't uploading
01:25 Cprossu so you back tggmc?
01:26 tggmc yes
01:26 Cprossu normal
01:26 Cprossu ustream.com does not resolve heh
01:26 Cprossu yikes
01:26 Cprossu still net-pocalypse
01:26 Seroster How much copper is on the zeustubes?
01:27 Seroster 1500pounds each... How much is plastic and how much is copper?
01:27 Cprossu man that's horrifying tggmc
01:27 tonsofpcs yes, 239 is multicast.
01:27 tggmc all plastic
01:27 Seroster Crap
01:27 tonsofpcs http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3171
01:28 Cprossu 1/2 second to google, yeesh
01:28 SparkyProjects Seroster, i don't think there's any copper, if you look at the old vids they were the white tubes on the rack next to main set
01:28 Seroster They aint even wound? Crud
01:28 tggObtuse apparently the arduino registers as /dev/ttyAMC0
01:28 Cprossu so do you have any obvious blinkenlights on your end?
01:28 tggObtuse we have Blinking LED!
01:29 Cprossu meaning on the switch
01:29 Cprossu go look why not lol
01:29 tonsofpcs 239.0.0.0-239.255.255.255 - Organization-Local Scope
01:29 compwiz878 steve are u talking softly ?
01:29 compwiz878 or is the audio turned down ?
01:29 tggObtuse i'm talking about blinking LED on the arduino
01:30 tonsofpcs compwiz878: he always has it turned down for some reasn
01:30 compwiz878 ok
01:30 compwiz878 just was wandering if it was on my end
01:31 Seroster I wanna wind Zeus by hand.
01:32 SparkyProjects Seroster, only a guess, but if the tubes were wound with 20awg to a height of 96 inches and a diameter of about 15 inches, the weight of copper would be about 40 pound
01:32 LinuxH4x0r1 is now known as LinuxH4x0r
01:32 Seroster Math power! GOOOO!
01:32 SparkyProjects Teslamap power :P
01:33 compwiz878 hey now stop that yawning
01:33 compwiz878 yawns
01:33 Seroster SparkyProjects, Ohnoes!
01:33 Seroster I'll just pretend you made that calculation in your head.
01:34 Cprossu .radar poop
01:34 BotSteve Cprossu: No such location, or can't find radar data
01:34 Cprossu piss
01:34 SparkyProjects I like to keep it simple
01:34 Cprossu .tfw 85020
01:34 BotSteve 109�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'Still not appropriate to wear a speedo though.'
01:35 Python .tfw 44256
01:35 BotSteve 72�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Medina, OH!  'OPEN A FUCKING WINDOW'
01:35 Seroster SparkyProjects, Yeah, like pressurised air, levers and pulleys for raising an anchour? =P
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01:35 SparkyProjects That's simple :P
01:35 Seroster Well
01:36 Seroster I'm off to hit the hay
01:36 SparkyProjects Don't be cruel to hay :P
01:36 CaptainBoden um, wow are you low
01:36 CaptainBoden Zeus is 26"OD
01:36 Bat-Mobile night Seroster
01:36 CaptainBoden Wire is 12AWG
01:37 Seroster And I should seriously hook up with a scrap dealer. I got... 150kg pure copper, 150kg copper cable, 50kgs of aluminium and 500+kgs of steel. The closet is getting awfully crowded
01:37 SparkyProjects Ah, but as i said it was a guess based on seeing the tubes, i was actually going to say 18 inches but thought that sounded too big
01:37 CaptainBoden 24"ID, 26OD
01:37 |RED| Hey internet <3
01:38 CaptainBoden RED
01:38 |RED| Hey Chris. <3
01:38 CaptainBoden Tell me you're coming in tomorrow
01:38 |RED| Miss me yet?
01:38 Seroster Damn, Capn!
01:38 |RED| lol.
01:38 CaptainBoden Life is hell without you
01:38 |RED| (blushes). I'll be at the lab tomorrow. :)
01:38 CaptainBoden WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
01:38 speedrunnerG55 O_o
01:38 |RED| <3
01:39 Cprossu sweeet!
01:39 speedrunnerG55 :6
01:39 speedrunnerG55 :)*
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01:39 tggsteve hi |red|
01:39 speedrunnerG55 Hi steve
01:39 Cprossu do you think we have an infinite route thing going on?
01:39 SparkyProjects Captain, did i get the winding height at 96 inches right ?
01:39 SparkyProjects If so, that's nearly 160 pounds
01:39 |RED| I'll be there tomorrow and Thursday...but then probably won't be allowed to come back until next week Monday. :\
01:39 |RED| Hey tggsteve ^_^
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01:40 Cprossu yay $1 bills
01:40 Cprossu useful.
01:40 |RED| CaptainBoden: I'll be there tomorrow and Thursday...but then probably won't be allowed to come back until next week Monday. :\
01:40 CaptainBoden poo
01:40 CaptainBoden oh well, I'll take what I can get
01:40 |RED| :)
01:40 |RED| I miss the lab like CRAZY. you have no idea. lol.
01:40 CaptainBoden We miss you, hard.
01:41 Cprossu if something is using all the BW
01:41 Cprossu it's on our end still
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01:41 |RED| <3
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01:41 speedrunnerG55 Cprossu: I uploaded the puctures to the FTP just in time
01:42 Cprossu nice
01:42 speedrunnerG55 I lost connection just after red cane in
01:42 |RED| Sorries, speedrunnerG55
01:42 * exor674 hugs |RED|!!!!!!!!
01:42 Cprossu it's QOS'ed at the ip
01:42 speedrunnerG55 Sorry? I did it in time. I compleated the transsfe
01:42 speedrunnerG55 Nothing failed
01:42 Cprossu by comcast
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01:43 Cprossu yeah we need to see what the hell is going on
01:43 Cprossu something ain't right
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01:43 Cprossu yeah no kidding
01:43 * |RED| hugs exor674
01:44 Cprossu I think I am 30 seconds behind you
01:44 * speedrunnerG55 wants to invest in class n wifi
01:44 Cprossu (reploadering)
01:44 exor674 Cprossu: probably comcast traffic shaping youze because the lab has traffic all the time
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01:44 tggsteve test
01:44 Cprossu fucking ad
01:44 speedrunnerG55 Test?
01:44 Cprossu I've got an ad
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01:46 Cprossu good stuff though
01:46 injektion exor674, I don't think comcast traffic shapes business connections
01:48 SparkyProjects It was bad enough when Cprossu and i were using our streams to videochat
01:48 exor674 hrm, I should go to find dinner BRB
01:49 |RED| om nom nom
01:49 Toastdude Hi speedrunner
01:50 Cprossu food sounds good
01:50 Bat-Mobile nom nom
01:50 * |RED| 's tummy rumbles
01:51 InfinityRN |RED| Miss you...{{{Hugs}}}
01:51 |RED| .... InfinityRN who are you?
01:51 |RED| lol
01:51 InfinityRN Amy
01:52 |RED| Amy!!!! <3 <3 <3
01:52 |RED| I miss you too!
01:52 exor674 the next question is WHAT ( I guess I'll make frozen beefs )
01:52 InfinityRN Kidlets are asking about you too.
01:52 exor674 aww :(
01:52 |RED| I'll be at the lab tomorrow.
01:52 |RED| :)
01:52 speedrunnerG55 Hi to
01:52 InfinityRN I work all day. will you be there later in the day?
01:53 speedrunnerG55 Hi Toastdude
01:53 |RED| I'll be there as long as i can be. :) I've missed it so much.
01:53 InfinityRN ok...maybe will stop by to stay hi in the evening.
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01:54 |RED| :)
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01:54 tggsteve loud noise
01:54 |RED| BANG
01:54 |RED| ?
01:54 speedrunnerG55 So i did patch cables in class
01:54 speedrunnerG55 Red ftw
01:54 tggsteve that was  a sneeze
01:54 Cprossu man that's messed up lol
01:55 Cprossu just heard you type warning
01:55 speedrunnerG55 Cprossu: I did patch cabkes today ^_^
01:55 speedrunnerG55 Im starting to get the hang of it
01:56 speedrunnerG55 I of the two ends were good
01:56 tggsteve lag comment returned
01:57 Cprossu ad
01:57 tonsofpcs did patch cables?
01:57 tonsofpcs TIA 568?
01:57 Cprossu fiber right?
01:57 speedrunnerG55 Fiber
01:57 tonsofpcs ooo
01:57 Cprossu last cheese thing
01:58 * tonsofpcs wants a fancy splice block system
01:58 tggsteve now
01:58 tonsofpcs they only cost like 150k at the low end
01:58 speedrunnerG55 Me too
01:58 Cprossu last cheese thing finished
01:58 speedrunnerG55 We have one at school
01:58 speedrunnerG55 I get tested on
01:58 SparkyProjects SpeedrunnerG55, were you making off the ends or just patching ?
01:59 speedrunnerG55 ^_^ making the ends
01:59 SparkyProjects Cool :)
01:59 speedrunnerG55 St connector
01:59 speedrunnerG55 And sc
02:00 tonsofpcs tggsteve: so any testing done in chyron2 yet?
02:00 tonsofpcs (note: i am not watching stream)
02:00 tggsteve not yet
02:00 SparkyProjects We used to use premade cables, can't remember which, but they were a pair and plugs were bayonet
02:00 tggsteve google thinks I'm in troy, MI
02:00 compwiz878 hmm is comcast haveing trouble in gr steve?
02:01 speedrunnerG55 tonsofpcs: I sent a update to the ftp
02:01 compwiz878 hahaha
02:01 compwiz878 comcast is bad hear also for multi hops to
02:02 Cprossu http://pastebin.com/c5kkKhQX
02:02 tggsteve thats what I'm wondering trace runs GR detroit then chicago
02:02 compwiz878 hahaah
02:02 tonsofpcs speedrunnerG55: you did?
02:03 speedrunnerG55 Yes
02:03 * speedrunnerG55 bites fingers
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02:03 compwiz878 usualy here comcast hops from the local headend to either a west viginia hop then to a pittsburgh pa hop the to harrisburgh pa
02:03 exor674 lol really oO
02:04 compwiz878 see
02:04 exor674 routing faiiiiil
02:04 exor674 this is what I get hah
02:04 exor674 http://www.pastie.org/private/rpd91ngduzcxvvhpvgk2rg
02:04 compwiz878 but some times it will also hop to another local headend about 15miles away
02:05 Druidic_Rifleman hey CSMonster
02:05 CSMonster hi
02:05 BotSteve CSMonster: I have the following messages for you:
02:05 BotSteve At 01:22Z, Bat-Mobile asked me to tell CSMonster I have a picture to show her.
02:05 exor674 omg CSMonster! GLOMP!
02:05 Druidic_Rifleman hows your brother doing?
02:05 * speedrunnerG55 catches up with youtube
02:05 speedrunnerG55 Brb
02:06 CSMonster he's doing better.  but he's still stupid
02:06 Cprossu http://pastebin.com/UPeDMTgB
02:07 Cprossu 96.117.155.4
02:07 Cprossu hrmmmmm
02:07 tonsofpcs so compwiz878 - road trip to tgg on friday, roadtrip back on monday?
02:07 compwiz878 hmhmh
02:07 compwiz878 let me chk my schedul
02:08 compwiz878 will get bak to u tommorrow
02:08 tggsteve hmm
02:08 tonsofpcs (and do you have a valid driver's license and money for gas/travel?)
02:08 eadthem Cprossu thats starting in what state?
02:08 Cprossu arizona
02:08 injektion It's really odd for me when I did a tracert http://pastebin.com/hw1ZQJD6
02:08 tonsofpcs tggsteve: CaptainBoden wants me to run punchdowns for the wheatstone fr the weekend :)
02:09 tggsteve ah ok
02:09 tonsofpcs I need to get friday off cleared by the bossman
02:09 tggsteve let me see how many cables we have to hook it up with
02:09 tggsteve I will be mostly out this weekend (family stuff)
02:09 compwiz878 tons yes i do
02:10 tonsofpcs tggsteve: check the type of cable?
02:10 compwiz878 as long as its not stick shift
02:10 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: obtuse on Power Wheels Robot
02:10 compwiz878 i do know it takes 6 hours from where i live to lansing mi
02:11 tonsofpcs google says 10-11 hours from here
02:11 tonsofpcs i haven't put in any stops
02:11 compwiz878 it takes between 90 mins and 2 hrs from here to cleveland
02:11 tonsofpcs where is here?
02:12 compwiz878 steubenville ohio area
02:12 compwiz878 im about 30 miles west of pittsburgh
02:12 tggsteve tonsofpcs I have 5 or 6 cables with db25 on one end and 6 balanced cables on the other
02:12 tonsofpcs adds 3 hours...
02:12 tggsteve they are a bit of a tangled mess and hard to count ends
02:13 tonsofpcs tggsteve: are the cables labeled as to the physical type of cable?
02:13 eadthem ya im pritty shure its comcast thats doing the stupid  http://pastebin.com/y0bidsdT
02:13 compwiz878 hahaha comcast doing the stupid hahahahaahaha
02:13 eadthem its got me going to dallas tx  from KC
02:13 eadthem then to grand rapids
02:14 injektion I guess it might be taking a faster route to the IP
02:14 eadthem anyone not on comcast in the grand rapids area
02:14 eadthem that would be the test
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02:14 compwiz878 yup callem and bitch at them
02:14 tonsofpcs eadthem: isn't CSMonster in the GR area?
02:15 CSMonster tonsofpcs no
02:15 SparkyProjects It did the same a few weeks back
02:15 * CSMonster isn't really paying attention
02:15 eadthem naw says hes in washington  on centurytel
02:15 tonsofpcs oh
02:15 compwiz878 im on comcast here to
02:16 tonsofpcs s/h/sh/
02:16 compwiz878 so i couldnt help ya
02:16 * tonsofpcs is on TWC in upstate NY
02:16 eadthem i was on comcast  then i got dsl and fixed all my problems :p
02:16 SparkyProjects Cprossu, just chatting to someone that found your channel, says Justin is a nice guy :)
02:16 eadthem TWC and att  are pritty good
02:16 compwiz878 cant get dsl here
02:16 compwiz878 tis either comcast or dial up
02:17 eadthem shurely someone dose dsl there
02:17 compwiz878 cant get a good signla to get wirless
02:17 compwiz878 yes theres at&t dsl here
02:17 compwiz878 but not avail where i live
02:18 tonsofpcs there's vz dsl here but it's crap
02:18 compwiz878 theres also wireless avail to but i cant get a good signal to be stable to use
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02:19 tonsofpcs we have a local wireless guy, i need to call him back...
02:20 compwiz878 yeah same here
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02:20 compwiz878 theres like 4 different wireless providers here
02:20 tonsofpcs i doubt it'll be doable here, i'm in an apartment with no outside mounting surfacces with a view of his sites
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02:20 compwiz878 well
02:21 compwiz878 theres somekind of shareing thing going on with wireless
02:21 compwiz878 here
02:21 tonsofpcs I suppose I could get him to mount a box on the telephone pole and link it back to me on local 2 gig...
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02:21 compwiz878 one company can connect tru anothers towers
02:21 compwiz878 its weird
02:22 speedrunnerG55 tonsofpcs: Did you see the stuff i added?
02:22 compwiz878 its a process to get that set up if thats how it has to hookup
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02:22 tonsofpcs compwiz878: are you talking LTE/HDSPA+/WiMax or 5 gig ISM
02:22 Bat-Mobile .g p-p-powerbook
02:22 BotSteve Bat-Mobile: http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/
02:22 compwiz878 hmm not sure of there service types
02:22 tonsofpcs BotSteve: tell speedrunnerg55 no
02:22 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I'll pass that on when speedrunnerg55 is around.
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02:23 compwiz878 i know people who have it and it blows comcast away
02:23 compwiz878 and verizone dsl  and fios
02:23 Hackbat D: Cory has been holding out on yall
02:23 Hackbat http://s265.photobucket.com/albums/ii223/soisigh/anthrocon/?action=view&amp;current=SAM_6541.jpg
02:23 SparkyProjects Cprossu, just chatting to someone that found your channel, says Justin is a nice guy
02:24 injektion Isn't the main issue with of wireless data is with the latency?
02:24 Hackbat He owns a cheesesteak shop
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02:24 compwiz878 hears birds whistleing
02:25 compwiz878 lol
02:25 eadthem as i was about to say before the power failed  google says theres a couple dsl providers
02:25 eadthem not shure how good verison is  of corse
02:26 compwiz878 heck AT&T uverse isnt avil here yet
02:26 eadthem kinda feel sorry for ya
02:26 eadthem couple years ile have google
02:27 compwiz878 but  the local att cell store has it setup on display
02:27 injektion compwiz878, If you do not have uverse in your area you never will. The uverse roll out is complete
02:27 compwiz878 and u can pay ur bill theer
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02:27 eadthem been watching them install and push fiber cable all over kansas city lately
02:27 compwiz878 they say it will be avial after they upgrade some lines
02:27 speedrunnerG55 Hi
02:27 BotSteve speedrunnerG55: I have the following messages for you:
02:27 BotSteve At 02:22Z, tonsofpcs asked me to tell speedrunnerG55 no
02:28 speedrunnerG55 ...kk
02:28 compwiz878 theres old lines here thats why dsl isnt avail here
02:28 * speedrunnerG55 pokes |RED|
02:28 compwiz878 i had there 6mb dsl package about 4 years ago
02:28 compwiz878 and it was fast
02:28 injektion Apparently uverse is only where people have money and they have stopped it because the investors are not seeing a large return
02:28 compwiz878 then i moved
02:28 * speedrunnerG55 pokes Bat-Mobile
02:29 compwiz878 and dsk isnt avail here
02:29 * Bat-Mobile pokes speedrunnerG55
02:29 compwiz878 vorizon isnt a provider of services here
02:30 compwiz878 only cellphones cause of the alltell buyout / merger
02:30 compwiz878 now if i cross the ohio river into wva
02:30 compwiz878 vorizon fios is avil there
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02:31 * |RED| dances a little bit.
02:31 speedrunnerG55 O_o
02:31 Cprossu weeee
02:32 Bat-Mobile No dancing!
02:32 Bat-Mobile Fun not allowed!
02:32 Bat-Mobile (:
02:32 compwiz878 but another company took over all of vorizons lines and stuff
02:33 injektion Frontier?
02:33 compwiz878 yup
02:33 |RED| ;)
02:33 injektion Frontier makes me lol
02:33 compwiz878 and its all messed up
02:33 compwiz878 lol
02:33 injektion Verizon sold all of their non-profitable markets to Frontier
02:34 compwiz878 frontie was just a lil guy
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02:34 compwiz878 then they took vz over
02:34 SparkyProjects Cprossu, did you see my message about Justin ?
02:34 Cprossu I don't think so
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02:34 SparkyProjects " just chatting to someone that found your channel, says Justin is a nice guy "
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02:35 tggsteve tonsofpcs
02:36 tggsteve it looks like we have enough cables for 5 in 1 out modual on the TV assuming the cables are wired correct
02:36 compwiz878 theres a town about 10 miles away from me that has att dsl and vorizon/frontier  dsl
02:36 compwiz878 alont with all flavors of dial up avail
02:37 compwiz878 and like 4 different wireless providers
02:37 compwiz878 2 pf the providers are local
02:37 compwiz878 and the other 2 are  in other places
02:37 compwiz878 but have tower sites just right across the ohio river on a big hill side
02:38 Cprossu yeah no kidding
02:38 compwiz878 and just last year that towns cable co just did another systen upgrade and is now offering cable internet
02:38 Cprossu lol finally
02:38 Cprossu hahaha
02:38 Cprossu lmao
02:39 compwiz878 cpross  ur stream is insync
02:39 compwiz878 on my end no lag
02:39 compwiz878 is
02:39 compwiz878 in
02:39 compwiz878 but tgg's how ever
02:39 compwiz878 is laggy and pauseing
02:39 Cprossu you saw the traceroute right?
02:40 speed-mobile I did
02:40 Cprossu do one from your end
02:40 tggsteve .tell tonsofpcs we only have 6 cables sets for the wheatstone so I'm not sure what you want to do
02:40 BotSteve Sorry, .tell is not yet implemented.  Use BotSteve: tell
02:40 Cprossu you are on comcast right, compwiz878?
02:40 tggsteve botsteve tell tonsofpcs we only have 6 cables sets for the wheatstone so I'm not sure what you want to do
02:40 Cprossu yeah
02:40 compwiz878 also the vid quality is down
02:40 Cprossu lol
02:40 Cprossu BotSteve: tell
02:40 Cprossu ^
02:40 compwiz878 its tiley
02:40 speed-mobile Dont routers block tracerout?
02:40 speed-mobile ...meh. Idk
02:41 Cprossu you forgot the colon flush
02:41 compwiz878 no speed they dont
02:41 Cprossu @ tggsteve
02:41 compwiz878 but comcast is either haveing network problems
02:41 tonsofpcs tggsteve: I want to know what physical type of cable they are
02:41 compwiz878 or they are just messing around
02:41 exor674 compwiz878: or designed really really stupidly/
02:41 Cprossu when you did your tell
02:41 compwiz878 exor674
02:41 compwiz878 well
02:42 compwiz878 im also on comcast
02:42 compwiz878 and it varies on the amout of hops they hop me
02:42 tonsofpcs stranded? solid? gauge? any markings on the cable?
02:42 Cprossu his hours are tied to mac battery runtime now I think lol
02:42 compwiz878 it could be like 3 to 6 hops
02:42 Cprossu you been following this CaptainBoden?
02:43 tonsofpcs tggsteve: ^
02:43 compwiz878 or at times  ive seen it take more hops
02:44 compwiz878 but all hops are useualy routed tru 3 pa hops
02:44 compwiz878 now n then an ohio hop and sometimes a west virgina hop
02:44 tonsofpcs (# of conductors per cable, color coding, etc.)
02:44 Cprossu tonsofpcs you'll have to wait
02:45 eadthem so anyone not on comcast in that area?
02:45 compwiz878 nope
02:45 compwiz878 there is time warner  couple tows away
02:46 compwiz878 anlong with suddenlink
02:46 compwiz878 and wind stream
02:46 |RED| Attention IRC: Most of you know of my financial troubles...if you'd like to help me....please direct everyone you know to my etsy store...which can be found at: http://www.etsy.com/shop/thelollipopmafia?ref=si_shop  It's a way for me to earn money to pay for gas to get to the lab and eventually move out of my house to Grand Rapids. All help is appreciated. Thank you!
02:46 eadthem what about busnesses
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02:46 compwiz878 but in my general area its comcast
02:46 speedrunnerG55 Orly
02:46 eadthem i mean shurely someones on a T1 there
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02:47 eadthem got one
02:47 compwiz878 i dont know any one thats at a buisness
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02:48 Cprossu tonsofpcs ^ he's back
02:48 compwiz878 or a school that has t1 or t3 they could do a trace rout
02:48 tonsofpcs tggmc: !
02:48 tggmc back
02:48 tggmc cris' averted sort of
02:48 speedrunnerG55 Hi steve
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02:48 tonsofpcs I want to know what physical type of cable they are -- stranded? solid? gauge? any markings on the cable?  (# of conductors per cable, color coding, etc.)
02:48 Cprossu the mic made a really weird sound
02:48 compwiz878 id call my bro in law at work but thats in wva
02:48 tonsofpcs crisis?
02:49 compwiz878 and thats on vorizon
02:49 Cprossu there's still a net-a-pocalypse tggmc
02:49 Cprossu lol']
02:49 compwiz878 but that system is  weird
02:49 Cprossu ninja'd
02:49 compwiz878 alot of blocked thisng
02:50 tggmc tons of pcs you see that cable?
02:50 Cprossu yeah
02:50 Cprossu lol
02:50 tonsofpcs tggmc: not watching the strea
02:50 Cprossu he has a 30 second ad then to go through tggmc
02:50 Cprossu 6 channlls 22-24 stranded wire 3 conducters./wire
02:50 Cprossu black whire red?
02:50 Cprossu *whhite
02:51 speedrunnerG55 I wonder why OTDR's are ssoooooonexpencive
02:51 Cprossu red black, shield?
02:51 tonsofpcs any labeling on the cable or no?
02:51 Cprossu black red, shield
02:51 tonsofpcs and is shield just jacket or is there a wire?  samee as the others or bare?
02:51 compwiz878 black + left audio chan and red + right chan ??
02:51 Cprossu 934 .... 958 1009 1010 1008 982
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02:51 Cprossu you cut out I didn't hear it all
02:52 tonsofpcs compwiz878: black - red +
02:52 compwiz878 that to
02:52 tonsofpcs Cprossu: that sounds like feet :)
02:52 compwiz878 was gonna say that
02:52 compwiz878 but got distraced on my end
02:52 Cprossu on-going still.
02:52 tonsofpcs *grabs stream*
02:53 tonsofpcs ad...
02:53 Cprossu Yikes.
02:53 Cprossu 974ms to ustream
02:53 Cprossu tggmc he was in ad a moment ago
02:54 tonsofpcs ok, out of ad
02:54 tonsofpcs there's no marks on the cable itself saying what the make/model is?
02:55 tonsofpcs I'm really just trying to figure out if the existing cable can be punched to 110/krone/66 blocks
02:55 tonsofpcs i suppose wire can be acquired and we can start from scratch....
02:56 tonsofpcs have a 66 punch?  (also, krone/110 > 66 by far)
02:56 tonsofpcs right, dsub connectors can be gotten.  Crimp type is best.
02:57 tonsofpcs i think CaptainBoden wanted the 66 blocks to stay in place because apparently there's 50 pairs running around the building
02:57 tonsofpcs (that's multiple 50 pair cables)
02:57 tonsofpcs i usually solder to the crimps :-p
02:57 tonsofpcs got access to a tone test kit?
02:57 tonsofpcs oh, I have the tool.  The tool sucks.
02:58 tonsofpcs the 50 pair are runners to/from the studios
02:58 tonsofpcs i don't have a tracer...
02:58 tonsofpcs no it wouldn't.
02:58 tonsofpcs you're running balanced.
02:59 tonsofpcs ideally, you preamp it and go line level for the runs, but it's not needed
02:59 tonsofpcs does the wheatstone have mic-level ins or just line-level?
02:59 Cprossu net and ad apocalypse lol
02:59 tonsofpcs i'd rather run next-to gemini than go longer and further...
03:00 Cprossu later steve
03:00 compwiz878 later steve
03:00 tonsofpcs further away, you get more on-axis distortion.  off-axis distortion is best
03:00 tonsofpcs have a good one
03:00 tonsofpcs i gotta see if i can get time off....
03:01 Cprossu you gonna leave it on input 9 you said?
03:01 tonsofpcs *clicks off strream*
03:01 Cprossu cool
03:01 Cprossu good deal
03:02 Cprossu sweet!
03:02 Cprossu I was thinking that type would work
03:03 Cprossu good old brown molex stuff
03:04 Cprossu shutting down my stream, it did it's duty
03:04 Cprossu later
03:04 Cprossu it worked well for being kludged together
03:05 Cprossu later steve
03:05 Cprossu CaptainBoden if you want a 'permanent' login to the MC computer let me know.
03:06 Cprossu I'll get you through it and then you can mess with it at your residance/etc
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03:15 Obtuse_lappy woo. back from the lab
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03:16 Obtuse_lappy dub dub wub wub
03:17 wub that's me
03:18 Bat-Mobile she's back!  hi wub
03:18 Bat-Mobile how've you been?
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03:23 Obtuse_lappy dub dub wub wub is what dubstep sounds like sometimes
03:23 Obtuse_lappy but hello wub
03:23 wub I've been ok
03:23 wub I did a dist-upgrade on my debian box to squeeze today (I really have not been paying attention - it was released in Feb I think)
03:24 wub and it went badly :(
03:24 wub I've got everything working again (except for one strange thing but more on that in a sec)
03:24 wub something ate mysql but it looked like it was half installed (no weird errors by aptitude either)
03:25 wub some other packages too...
03:25 wub anyway, the weird thing I haven't managed to resolve yet is that I'm hitting inotify's max_user_watches limit
03:25 speedrunnerG55 For a 20 frame animation to last 5 seconds each frame must be?
03:26 speedrunnerG55 5 / 20?
03:26 wub (and i'm not even going to pretend to talk like I know what that /really/ does, y'all)
03:26 speedrunnerG55 5000  / 20 for milliseconds?
03:27 wub the way I found that I was hitting it is that when my services weren't starting up, I of course went to look at the log files and ran 'tail -f syslog' etc
03:27 speedrunnerG55 So 250?
03:27 wub and tail says: tail: cannot watch `syslog': No space left on device
03:27 wub say what? :)
03:27 wub speedrunnerG55: sorry, I keep talking over you here
03:28 wub so that's a bug in tail - it's reporting the wrong error in fact.  I am not out of disk space. This is a known bug in coreutils: http://debbugs.gnu.org/db/78/7813.html
03:29 speedrunnerG55 Cprossu: Is the 5 second delay a finnal amount at this time?
03:29 wub But what it meant to say was that it's hitting the max_user_watches limit but I don't know why atm.
03:29 * wub shuts up.
03:30 speedrunnerG55 How do i do presistance in the javascript. The picture that will stay after xlicking
03:31 speedrunnerG55 Clicking
03:32 wub what? can I see your script?
03:32 CaptainBoden 250 milliseconds
03:32 CaptainBoden .25sec per frame
03:33 CaptainBoden Or, 4 frames per second.
03:33 speedrunnerG55 Kk
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03:37 Bat-Mobile .c 37/2
03:37 BotSteve 18.5
03:37 * wub blinks.
03:37 egrsteve hi |red|
03:38 |RED| Hey egrsteve
03:38 |RED| :)
03:38 egrsteve so you'll be at the lab tomarrow
03:39 egrsteve I  ight have to try to make it there
03:41 CaptainBoden Did someone setup an account on JustinTV?
03:41 CaptainBoden Cprossu?
03:42 |RED| Yep. :)
03:42 |RED| I'll be there.
03:42 speedrunnerG55 Yay red
03:44 Cprossu no I haven't
03:44 Cprossu not for tgg
03:44 wub are you guys all in MI?
03:44 Cprossu @ CaptainBoden
03:44 wub wait, is it in MI or WI?
03:45 Cprossu no I am in bumfuck AZ
03:45 Cprossu it's grand rapids MI
03:46 Cprossu man it's bad when you end up watching a recording made of a livestream you did in which you ignored the livestream and played videogames instead
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03:47 Cprossu it's nice to know that looking at my videos I make other player's life a living burning hell.
03:47 Bat-Mobile Cprossu: depends on the game
03:47 Bat-Mobile was it Portal 2?
03:47 Cprossu TF2
03:47 Bat-Mobile oh, well that's fine ten
03:47 Bat-Mobile then
03:48 Bat-Mobile (was it the game that we just played earlier today?)
03:48 Cprossu yep
03:48 Bat-Mobile awesome.
03:48 Cprossu I did better than I thought
03:48 Cprossu o_o
03:48 Bat-Mobile I know I was impressed with how annoying you were
03:48 Bat-Mobile (:
03:48 Cprossu so want to TF2 it again, Bat-Mobile?
03:48 Cprossu lol
03:49 Cprossu yeah I... am not your standard w+m1 pyro
03:49 speedrunnerG55 Cprossu: I was playing tf2 today lol
03:49 Bat-Mobile "Hmm..the point is right here.  I am on the point.  That means that within seconds, I can expect Cprossu to show up out of nowhere, puff me, and then ax me to death"
03:49 speedrunnerG55 My sn is blondeshavemf33
03:50 Cprossu yep. ax if you don't run away fast enough
03:50 Cprossu btw did you see what I named mine?
03:50 speedrunnerG55 Cprossu: Can i play?
03:51 Cprossu don't you have bandwidth issues?
03:51 Cprossu or was that another guy
03:51 Cprossu because to download it is several gig
03:51 Cprossu s
03:51 speedrunnerG55 Not on my gamming pc
03:51 Cprossu d/l steam and install tf2 then if you didn't already!
03:51 speedrunnerG55 Which i never use for doing stuff
03:51 speedrunnerG55 ...i have it alreaddy
03:52 speedrunnerG55 My sn is blondeshavemf33
03:52 Bat-Mobile Cprossu: what did you name yours?
03:52 Bat-Mobile I didn't see
03:52 speedrunnerG55 Cprossu: Whats your sn
03:52 Cprossu cprossu2@netscape.net
03:53 Cprossu rofl
03:53 speedrunnerG55 0_o u srs?
03:53 Cprossu aka nikon
03:54 Cprossu let me know what yours are
03:54 Cprossu Bat-Mobile: "The Askinguisher"
03:54 Cprossu description is "May I Axe you a question?
03:55 * Bat-Mobile would pay any amount of money for a device that would allow me to slap Cprossu in the head via TCP/IP right now
03:55 speedrunnerG55 I cant find u
03:55 Cprossu hahaah
03:56 Bat-Mobile That's ok though, I renamed my Gunslinger "The Southern Gynecologist", so I can't talk.
03:56 speedrunnerG55 What should i put in search the comunity
03:58 speedrunnerG55 I sent you an email invatation
03:58 Cprossu http://steamcommunity.com/id/Cprossu
03:59 |RED| lol Bat-Mobile
03:59 Cprossu speedrunnerG55 ^
04:00 Bat-Mobile |RED|: are you familiar with what The Gunslinger actually looks like?
04:00 Cprossu come to think of it considering it's taunt
04:01 Cprossu you could have been in a lot more bad taste
04:01 Bat-Mobile true, but I like my account, and I wanted it to be clean enough not to get yelled at
04:03 Cprossu I wanted mine to be rude enough and totally clean so it might be laughed at and made into a real weapon
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04:03 speedrunnerG55 http://steamcommunity.com/id/Cprossu here speed_pc
04:04 * egrsteve is back
04:04 Cprossu wooo!
04:04 * tonsofpcs is going to nap
04:04 tonsofpcs also, I figured out why my alarm clock has been acting funky :D
04:05 speed_pc ur offline
04:05 Cprossu no
04:05 speed_pc .><
04:05 Cprossu did you send a request?
04:05 speed_pc >.<*
04:05 speed_pc i added you to my friends list
04:06 tonsofpcs 1) alarm clock is an IP 'radio'.  2) alarm clock connects through my routerwall.  3) I had people leeching internet when they visited, downloading and sucking bandwidth.  4) I created rules so they would be throttled to 8kbps if they used more than 24kbps for more than 5 seconds (along with some other tweaks to make my slingbox and netflix streaming run faster than my downloads).  E) I failed to put my 'radio' in the 'my stuff: streaming' category
04:07 |RED| nope Bat-Mobile
04:07 tonsofpcs :D
04:07 tonsofpcs fixed now
04:07 Cprossu what's your steam comm speed?
04:07 Bat-Mobile .g the gunslinger tf2
04:07 BotSteve Bat-Mobile: http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Gunslinger
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04:08 Bat-Mobile |RED|: there you go
04:08 Hackbat joined #thegeekgroup
04:08 speedrunnerG55 Doing a quick update
04:09 speedrunnerG55 Im joinning the game
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04:09 Cprossu kk
04:09 Cprossu did I already have you in
04:09 Cprossu ?
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04:10 speedrunnerG55 Me? I dont think so
04:10 Bat-Mobile Cprossu: if you're still here, I'm TF2-ed out for the night.  I continued playing after you left and I'm basically done
04:10 Cprossu lol
04:10 Cprossu understood
04:11 speedrunnerG55 Im about to join
04:11 speedrunnerG55 Its loading the level
04:18 * egrsteve looks arounds to see if anyone else isn't playing tf2
04:18 Cprossu lol
04:19 Cprossu good luck with that on
04:19 Cprossu e
04:20 Cprossu getting rocked right now though
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05:00 Cprossu rofl
05:01 Cprossu @ speedrunnerG55
05:01 speedrunnerG55 ...
05:01 speedrunnerG55 :p
05:01 speedrunnerG55 Lol
05:01 Cprossu I make a lot of people die in fires.
05:01 Cprossu it's a good gig.
05:01 speedrunnerG55 Lol
05:02 speedrunnerG55 Idk what my fqvirite class is
05:02 Cprossu I'm saddened that the worst thing I got called during that session was 'scrub' =(
05:02 speedrunnerG55 Lol
05:02 speedrunnerG55 Whys that
05:02 Bat-Mobile ooh, story
05:02 Bat-Mobile do tell
05:03 astro73|derrial ok, any opinions on Google+?
05:03 Cprossu oh I dominated someone....
05:03 Cprossu but all the kills were flair gun
05:03 speedrunnerG55 Bat-Mobile: Whats your sn
05:03 speedrunnerG55 Lol
05:03 Cprossu oh and I dominated a pyro too last round...
05:03 Cprossu 2/3 kills flare gun =P
05:03 Toastdude astro73|derrial: Google+?
05:04 astro73|derrial http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/introducing-google-project-real-life.html
05:04 Cprossu I don't think I named my flare gun
05:04 astro73|derrial (see also: xkcd)
05:04 Cprossu but I should next desc and name tag I get
05:05 Cprossu http://www.tf2items.com/id/Cprossu final page
05:05 Bat-Mobile astro73|derrial: looking
05:06 Cprossu oh and speedrunnerG55 : look at the bottom equipped axtinguisher lol
05:07 speedrunnerG55 I have that
05:07 Bat-Mobile astro73|derrial: sounds like more advertising-speak than a usual google launch
05:07 speedrunnerG55 I think
05:07 speedrunnerG55 Is that the barbed wwire axe?
05:08 Cprossu did you hover over the description?
05:08 Cprossu and read it carefully?
05:08 speedrunnerG55 Kk
05:08 astro73|derrial Bat-Mobile: it does. I'm really apprehensive about the project.
05:08 astro73|derrial and I've been called a google fan boy
05:08 speedrunnerG55 -50?
05:09 speedrunnerG55 100 crit???
05:09 speedrunnerG55 ?!??!?!!!
05:09 Cprossu 100 crit on fire
05:09 speedrunnerG55 ?!!!!!!!!!?!!?
05:09 Cprossu that's how they always work
05:09 speedrunnerG55 Pew pew pew
05:09 Cprossu that's why I am a jerk with it
05:09 Cprossu it's not special
05:09 Cprossu what's special
05:09 Cprossu is the name
05:10 speedrunnerG55 Axe me a question
05:10 speedrunnerG55 L4d2 ftw
05:10 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: VR on AC line weirdness on the scope
05:11 Bat-Mobile oh, that reminds me
05:11 speedrunnerG55 Vintage. Lol
05:11 Bat-Mobile I was playing 2fort with a guy earlier whose name was "Chocolate helicopter".  Is that a standard TF2 bot name, or was he just clever?
05:11 Bat-Mobile because I laughed.
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05:12 Cprossu lol
05:12 Toastdude Hi spicecake
05:12 spicecake it's quiet in here
05:12 spicecake hi toastdude
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05:14 Bat-Mobile I'm hoping he was just clever
05:14 spicecake so how are ya toastdude?
05:15 Toastdude I'm well, how are you?
05:15 spicecake good
05:15 Toastdude That's good
05:15 spicecake oh yeah. definitely, Captain Obvious. because feeling good = good. :)
05:16 Toastdude Lol
05:17 spicecake what did you do today, toastdude?
05:18 spicecake seen any good movies lately?
05:18 spicecake shoot, got to go
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05:21 speedrunnerG55 So my friends like . "were im working we needed 3terabytes of memory for this program. Its this sound there using to find the san graal. " im like....huh?
05:21 Cprossu rofl
05:21 speedrunnerG55 Sound file*
05:22 Cprossu so that's only $40,000 of memory or so
05:22 Cprossu roughly
05:23 Cprossu nm the 'support structure' for the memory
05:23 speedrunnerG55 Lol
05:24 speedrunnerG55 I cant amagin a board that big.
05:24 Cprossu no it would be a cluster.
05:24 Cprossu made of lots and lots of other boards
05:24 speedrunnerG55 Ah.
05:24 * Bat-Mobile imagines a server rack at the Googleplex
05:24 Bat-Mobile lots and lots of Pentium 2's
05:24 Cprossu the google racks are cool
05:25 Cprossu built in battery backups for every single motherboard
05:25 Cprossu built in
05:25 Cprossu and it's all DC DC
05:25 Cprossu the voltage regulation for 5v and a few others happens on custom motherboards
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05:25 speedrunnerG55 0_o
05:25 Cprossu 12v out only on google's custom PSU's iirc
05:26 Cprossu http://weblog.mrbill.net/images/GoogleServerLarge.jpg
05:26 Cprossu now look at all the strange hings here
05:26 Cprossu see if you can catch them all
05:26 speedrunnerG55 =_=
05:27 Bat-Mobile it's like geek pokemans
05:27 Cprossu *things even
05:27 Cprossu actually I'll be damned
05:28 Cprossu they changed things
05:28 Cprossu that one is AC
05:28 Cprossu serves me right for getting an updated image
05:29 speedrunnerG55 You mean i took dc power before?
05:29 speedrunnerG55 Zunks
05:29 Cprossu they have done many strange things for efficiency and reliability
05:30 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRwPSFpLX8I&amp;feature=player_embedded
05:30 * Bat-Mobile decides 30 minutes after bedtime is probably a good time to not be online anymore
05:30 speedrunnerG55 Hats a small booard for all that stuff
05:30 Bat-Mobile night night all
05:30 Cprossu ^ this being one of the stranger one
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05:30 Toastdude Night Bat-Mobile
05:30 Toastdude Crap....
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05:37 |RED| lol Toastdude
05:37 Cprossu yay |RED|!
05:37 speedrunnerG55 0_o
05:37 Toastdude U laughin at me? ;)
05:37 speedrunnerG55 Informative
05:37 |RED| Goodnight internet!
05:37 |RED| <3
05:38 Cprossu goodnight |RED| we look forward to seeing you tomorrow!
05:38 speedrunnerG55 Goodnight |RED|
05:38 |RED| :)
05:38 * speedrunnerG55 agrees
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05:38 Toastdude Bye Red
05:38 Toastdude Crap... AGAIN
05:39 speedrunnerG55 Aww
05:43 Toastdude http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Psfn6iOfS8
05:47 speedrunnerG55 Lol
05:49 Cprossu lol
05:50 Cprossu painnnnnn
05:50 Toastdude ?
05:51 Cprossu autotune causes me pain
05:51 speedrunnerG55 >.<
05:51 Toastdude Oh, lol
05:52 speedrunnerG55 I dont like 3d and shacky cam
05:54 Cprossu yeah I'm with you there
05:54 Cprossu blair witch project in 3d would be the worst
05:54 * Cprossu is going to have 3d shakeycam nightmares now
05:54 Cprossu fuck you speedrunnerG55
05:55 Cprossu lol
05:55 speedrunnerG55 Lol
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05:59 lwq1996 hi
06:00 Cprossu well I am going to bed now, if anyone needs to leave me a pm, send it to the laptop, that's where I look in the morning.
06:00 lwq1996 night cprossi
06:00 lwq1996 cprossu
06:00 Cprossu *turns stream kludgy but reliable computer off
06:01 lwq1996 lol
06:01 Cprossu it deserves a break for working.
06:01 lwq1996 anyone else here
06:01 Toastdude Hi
06:01 Toastdude Lee
06:01 lwq1996 hi toast
06:01 Cprossu lwq1996 before I go to bed anything new?
06:01 speedrunnerG55 Night Cprossu
06:02 lwq1996 nah...not really....still working on the partical accelorator
06:02 Toastdude Night Cprossu
06:02 Cprossu good good.
06:02 speedrunnerG55 Happy dreams
06:02 speedrunnerG55 ;)
06:02 Toastdude Lucid Dreams
06:02 Toastdude !
06:02 Toastdude ;)
06:02 speedrunnerG55 Inception!!!
06:02 lwq1996 sleep tight dont let the boden bite
06:03 Toastdude I've actually had a dream within a dream...
06:03 Toastdude Lol
06:03 lwq1996 so far i had to dreams about being at the lab
06:03 speedrunnerG55 Me too.but thats not inception
06:04 lwq1996 i dont dream much
06:04 Toastdude I had a dream about the lab, but it wasn't THE lab
06:05 lwq1996 im going there when i get a car and turn 18
06:05 Toastdude And that's not all. Whoa, there will be snacks, there will
06:05 lwq1996 toast i dont know what your talking about
06:06 Toastdude From a song
06:06 lwq1996 oh
06:06 Toastdude Lyrics that my darn sister keeps singing
06:06 Toastdude Lol
06:06 lwq1996 lol
06:09 lwq1996 im bored
06:11 Toastdude Me too
06:11 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: baldbrad on AC line weirdness on the scope
06:12 lwq1996 hey toastdude are you in th forums
06:12 Toastdude Ya
06:12 Toastdude Why?
06:13 lwq1996 pretty good stuff in there
06:20 * speedrunnerG55 plays with lwq1996 and Toastdude
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06:21 speedrunnerG55 Technically im on the forums
06:21 speedrunnerG55 But i never post
06:21 * lwq1996 plays with the nice old guy in a van that has candy
06:21 lwq1996 i post a little
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06:35 lwq1996 my god so fucking bored
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06:39 lwq1996 hi tj
06:40 livefiretj hi
06:40 livefiretj fell asleep lol
06:41 Toastdude Night all
06:41 livefiretj night toast
06:41 Toastdude is now known as Toast_Burnt
06:41 lwq1996 night toast
06:41 Toast_Burnt Oh, and Hi livefiretj
06:42 lwq1996 and its not as fun without kelly being on here
06:44 Toast_Burnt Nvm
06:44 Toast_Burnt is now known as Toastdude
06:44 Toastdude IKR?!?!?
06:45 Toastdude Darn she's not on
06:45 lwq1996 oh well she will be back in about 15days i think
06:45 lwq1996 no she got banned
06:45 Toastdude You can msg her though
06:46 Toastdude she's still on the irc, just not this channel
06:46 lwq1996 yeah
06:50 lwq1996 hey toast i sent you a friend invite on tgg website
06:51 Toastdude Ok, hold on
06:54 Toastdude Hey, like my icon?
06:54 lwq1996 lol....random pics sometimes helps....
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07:02 lwq1996 ugh everytime my internet goes out
07:11 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: randommscience117 on 3 x 6 solar cell frame?
07:41 Toastdude Anyone here?
07:41 lwq1996 hi
07:42 Toastdude Hi
07:42 lwq1996 bored
07:54 lwq1996 going to bed
07:55 lwq1996 is now known as lwq_sleeping
07:56 Toastdude Nigh
07:56 Toastdude t
07:56 lwq_sleeping night toast
07:56 Toastdude is now known as Toast_Burnt
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13:19 speedrunnerG55 Hi
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13:31 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Cprossu on The Dole Chefs Salad?.....Radioactive on The Dole Chefs Salad?
13:31 Cprossu good morning all
13:32 SparkyStudio Hi Cprossu
13:33 Cprossu I'm gonna cycle through the inputs on the mc
13:33 Cprossu and see if any wiring has changed
13:35 Cprossu nope (phew)
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13:40 CaptainBoden Cprossu, did you make an account on JustinTV
13:41 Cprossu no
13:41 CaptainBoden well what the fuck then
13:41 Cprossu well generally that's for a staff member to do right?
13:41 CaptainBoden I tried to setup an account as TheGeekGroup and it said the name was taken.
13:42 Cprossu someone had mentioned
13:42 CaptainBoden yes, it doesn't stop eager G-1's from time to time.
13:42 Cprossu that when you guys first attempted streaming
13:42 Cprossu that you may have tried justin.tv
13:42 Cprossu at some time
13:42 CaptainBoden ok, well, PM me
13:42 CaptainBoden oh, and btw, congratulations.
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13:48 SparkyProjects That would make sense, if it wasn't you that set it up, maybe ask Moose, looks like the channel hasn't been used http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup
13:50 Cprossu hey BatSteve-Away you not away yet?
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13:53 Seroster AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!
13:54 Seroster FUCKING CRIMP CONNECTS!
13:54 Cprossu oh come on
13:54 Cprossu they aren't that bad
13:54 Seroster Yes they are
13:54 Cprossu you should try RG59 without compression fittings.
13:54 Seroster Working on a ceiling fan.
13:54 Cprossu lol
13:54 SparkyStudio He's probably trying to use normal pliers :P
13:54 Cprossu wirenuts too cool for you?
13:54 Seroster "Hey look, a black wire, that goes to a black wire, but be sure not to cross it with that black wire!"
13:55 Cprossu you sure it's not a black wire with a grey or white stripe?
13:55 Seroster I'm sure
13:55 Cprossu house wiring or fan wiring?
13:55 Seroster Fan
13:55 Cprossu it has a UL sticker!?
13:55 Cprossu what the fuck
13:55 Seroster My house wiring is a mess too, but this fan is even worse
13:56 Cprossu usually they have a white, a black, and a black with stripe
13:56 Cprossu black being for the motor, black with stripe for the light kit
13:56 Seroster I got 50volts in the light socket when the switch is turned off! Yay!
13:56 Cprossu 50?!
13:56 Seroster Fifty
13:56 Seroster Five zero
13:56 Cprossu are you using a harbor freight multimeteR?
13:57 Seroster So... Light on 240 volts, lights off 52 volts
13:57 Cprossu and is the fan new / what brand is it?
13:57 Cprossu oh yeah you are not in the US
13:57 Cprossu (Duh!)
13:57 Seroster Cprossu The fan is crappy chineese crap brand =)
13:57 Cprossu lol
13:58 Cj1corbystarlet Fantastic
13:58 Seroster I aint got very many amps with the light off, but I haven't tested yet. Something in me tells me not to use an ampmeter by just poking in a lighting fixture with it =P
13:59 Seroster But on good days you can see a little glow in the 40watt incadecent bulbs xD
13:59 Cprossu I don't know how ceiling fans across the ponds are wired
13:59 Cprossu so I am staying out of this
14:00 Seroster Hehe
14:00 Seroster Probably the exact same way
14:00 Cprossu but 50 volts?!
14:00 Seroster Yes... That
14:00 Seroster That's not the fan, that's my apartment
14:00 Cprossu our light bulbs and motors run on 120 lol
14:00 Cj1corbystarlet 50V WOULD BE A BACK FEED FROM A WINDING
14:00 Cj1corbystarlet *err excuse the caps oops
14:00 Seroster ^^
14:01 SparkyStudio Follow the wiring, one should be common to light and fan, others should go to each, sounds like you got the common as a live, so when the switch is off, the fan and light are in series
14:01 Seroster Cj1corbystarlet, unshielded wiring, something works like a transformer and induces a current in the wire. Probably not a lethal charge, but damn...
14:01 Cj1corbystarlet yep thats my job
14:02 Seroster SparkyStudio, since i am only digging into it for the purpose of removing the light fixture I won't bother with that circuit
14:02 Cprossu .log
14:02 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
14:02 Seroster I'll just make sure the fan works, Fwd1, fwd2, reverse.
14:03 Cj1corbystarlet Dont let the smoke out !
14:03 Seroster Cj1corbystarlet, I won't =)
14:04 Seroster brb
14:05 SparkyStudio Cprossu, if that's not you on my stream, looks like someone else is following
14:05 Cj1corbystarlet *Bang*
14:05 Cj1corbystarlet Stream ?
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14:06 ynos|away g'mornin all
14:06 Cj1corbystarlet yo
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14:07 Cprossu bang?
14:07 SparkyStudio Cprossu found another provider for tgg, so i've also been tsting, so far it looks goood
14:07 Cprossu yeah we're good to go SparkyProjects
14:07 SparkyStudio Cool :)
14:07 Seroster Yay, cross threaded screws with mutilated heads!
14:07 Cprossu just trying to determine if we have the pw for the 'old' acct
14:08 SparkyStudio Hopefully Moose (or someone) used a tgg email, and a forgot pw should work
14:08 ynos|away is now known as ynos
14:09 Cj1corbystarlet Cprossu: Seroster going off to twiddle with wires :)
14:09 Cprossu all right lol good luck
14:09 Cprossu don't get yourself nipped
14:09 Seroster ^
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14:14 Cj1corbystarlet Does anyone know of something that repells cats ?
14:14 Cj1corbystarlet Other than a gun blast
14:16 ynos tunafish and lye
14:16 ynos they come once and never again
14:16 ynos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6693Lklyvg&amp;feature=autoplay&amp;list=PL4BD29B4EB82C2DC7&amp;index=77&amp;playnext=32
14:16 ynos erp
14:16 ynos wrong window
14:18 SparkyStudio I think you can get ultrasonic devices for replling cats
14:18 SparkyStudio or get a dog
14:19 ynos our cats wont go near our chickens..
14:19 ynos dont know why..
14:19 Cj1corbystarlet I would love to get a dog but i travel way to much
14:19 Cj1corbystarlet what is lye ?
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14:20 Angy4 Hi everyone
14:21 Cprossu hey Angy4
14:21 Cj1corbystarlet Tho i hate cats and would destroy everylast one,.... i just want them to go away and never return  with no real harm done
14:21 Angy4 Great you are here Cprossu
14:21 Cprossu yeah
14:21 Angy4 I got a reply for the GE supply thing, we never had GE xray in my imaging departemnt, sorry!
14:22 Cprossu no problem
14:22 Cprossu still neat though
14:22 Cprossu I ran a test stream yesterday on justin.tv
14:22 Cprossu it went well.
14:23 Cprossu hey CaptainBoden
14:23 Cprossu http://thegeekgroup.org/bb/basic-group-operations/live-web-stream/
14:23 Angy4 I have not hear of it I think
14:23 Angy4 but I read your post
14:23 Cprossu yeah I ran it at http://www.justin.tv/cprossu
14:24 Angy4 why it has to be flash!
14:26 Angy4 (your stream makes me feel that my office is organized)
14:27 Cj1corbystarlet Haha me too !
14:28 Angy4 every thing is about perspective ;)
14:29 Cj1corbystarlet But everything looks withing reach ;)
14:29 Cprossu damn
14:29 Cprossu damn damn
14:29 Cprossu Angy4 good
14:29 Cprossu and if you notice
14:29 Cprossu it has a small archive too
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14:29 Cprossu meaning we wouldn't need a dvr at all
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14:30 Cprossu at most all we'd need is a box to pull the archives down
14:30 Angy4 :)
14:30 Cprossu (as they go away after 7 days I think)
14:30 Angy4 that is quite easy to do
14:30 Cprossu yeah I know!
14:30 Cprossu pretty awesome, huh?
14:30 Angy4 (I did not scroll down in fact, just saw that)
14:30 Angy4 for sure
14:30 Angy4 way less ad than the other
14:30 Cprossu yeah
14:31 Angy4 it still want to send me in vacation though
14:31 Cprossu it uses the same ad servers
14:31 Cprossu as ustream did
14:31 Cprossu which is why if you load both at the same time
14:31 Cprossu the same ad runs
14:31 Angy4 that may explain why I got the same ads
14:31 Cprossu which is very strange
14:31 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 3 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Cj1corbystarlet on The Dole Chefs Salad?.....Cj1corbystarlet on AC line weirdness on the scope.....Sparky Projects on 3 x 6 solar cell frame?
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14:34 * Angy4 compliment a SpeedRunner
14:34 Angy4 Apparently, it's your day
14:34 SparkyStudio At least you only get one ad per session like ustream used to be
14:34 Angy4 I belive we can say ustream does it too, with 5 minutes sessions
14:35 Cprossu Angy4 a nice thing is
14:35 Cprossu if I take the stream down
14:35 Cprossu and pull it back up
14:35 Cprossu no ad!
14:35 Angy4 Yey!
14:35 Angy4 I love that kind of comportement
14:36 Cprossu let me get a shirt on and boot up my test stream computer lol
14:36 Cprossu in that order
14:36 Angy4 I did the exact same reflexion when I brought up my test
14:37 ynos does the streaming app run as a service, or does someone have to open it to start it?
14:38 SparkyStudio Someone i was chatting to last night said Jason was a nice guy
14:38 Angy4 I don't think it can be run as a service, as it needs userland to access the stream (in case of Flash Media Something)
14:39 Cprossu all right and I am live
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14:39 Cprossu http://www.justin.tv/cprossu
14:40 Angy4 if you work at westjet, I can see into an ad :p
14:40 SparkyStudio When you open an account, there's a basic 3 step process and you can go live, don't need flash encoder, but you then have the option to configure an encoder and it works like ustreeam from there
14:41 Angy4 :)
14:41 maglinvinn_work yar
14:42 Angy4 flash media thingy something streaming :)
14:42 speedrunnerG55 Hi
14:43 * ynos wishes multicast was more than a dream
14:43 SparkyProjects Adobe Flash Media Live Encoder
14:43 Seroster LOL! The argument is still going about plane on a conveyor belt
14:43 Seroster XD
14:43 Angy4 That's right, Flash thingy :)
14:43 ynos aerodynamics fail
14:44 Seroster IZ FUCKEN PHYSICS
14:44 Cj1corbystarlet plane on a belt ?? do explin
14:44 Cj1corbystarlet *explain
14:44 Seroster At this point in history I am concidering the people who think its true are trollin.
14:44 Seroster Cj1corbystarlet, A plane can't take off from a conveyor belt
14:44 Seroster True or false?
14:45 Seroster If the conveyor belt moves 100mph in the opposite of the plane, that wants to go 100mph, would the belt cancel out the planes thrust?
14:45 Cj1corbystarlet cann not take off, due to the fact it doesn't have a relative airflow over the wings
14:45 Angy4 it can take off
14:45 Seroster BEEEP! Wrong answer, you don't get the million dollars, better luck next time
14:45 Angy4 that's great, no ads
14:45 ynos with the motor on
14:45 Cprossu so there's your demo of the stream, Angy4
14:46 Cprossu not bad, eh?
14:46 Angy4 I have to find where I put my flash media server
14:46 Angy4 that's going to take me a while :)
14:46 Angy4 (if it's still running)
14:46 Cprossu lol
14:46 Seroster Unlike a car the plane is not powered by anything touching the ground. You can have the belt going a million miles per hour and the plane will STILL liftoff if the prop is spinning enough
14:46 Cj1corbystarlet Seroster: Whats your answer
14:46 speedrunnerG55 Hi everyone
14:46 Seroster Just gave it to you
14:46 SparkyProjects Cprossu, 3 hours online and only 7 drops
14:46 * speedrunnerG55 waves his hand
14:47 Seroster Hello speedrunnerG55
14:47 Angy4 can't find it, I think I overwrite it with another thing
14:47 Angy4 :)
14:48 Cj1corbystarlet ah i mis interperted your question
14:48 Seroster Cj1corbystarlet, I challenge you to build the worlds largest treadmill, put a Boeing 747 on it and prevent it from taking off by running the mill the other way.  If the plane can't take off I'll pay for the cost of the experiment. If it CAN take off you pay, Aight? =D
14:48 Angy4 found it
14:48 Angy4 http://y.rezo33.net/
14:49 Angy4 then select interactive, and watch on the play thing tgg stream
14:49 Angy4 (I don't have a nice player)
14:49 Cprossu ummmm
14:50 Cprossu what am I looking at?
14:50 Cprossu I've got the adobe flash media server website
14:50 Cprossu and I am under interactive
14:51 Cprossu what server and what stream?
14:51 Angy4 server is rtmp:/live
14:51 Angy4 stream is tgg
14:51 Angy4 it may work
14:51 Cprossu orange shirt?
14:51 Angy4 yep
14:51 Cj1corbystarlet Seroster: if the belt was travelling towards the plane at the saame rate as the aircraft wheels are going on the belt it would not nake off
14:51 Seroster Wrong.
14:52 Seroster The wheels are just on ball bearings during takeoff.
14:52 ynos what does wheelspeed have to do with airflow?
14:52 Cj1corbystarlet There would be no airflow over the wing ! = no lift = no take off
14:52 Seroster Indeed, ynos!
14:52 Seroster Cj1corbystarlet, Doesnt matter how fast the wheels spin.
14:52 SparkyProjects Forward motion of te plane creates lift, the prop provides forward motion, not the wheels
14:53 Cj1corbystarlet So is the wing travelling through air at a rate it can produce lift
14:53 ynos methinks he is trolling...
14:53 Cprossu very cool
14:53 Seroster ynos,  I aint sure. There are enough stupid people on the net for me not calling trollshit instantly =P
14:53 Cj1corbystarlet Guy's i am a Flight instructor,.     you know a pilot dude
14:54 Seroster Cj1corbystarlet, Well. Try it them. Get a balsa plane with a rubber band powered propeller and put it on a treadmill in your local gym
14:54 Angy4 take a plane model, a conveyer belt
14:54 Angy4 and you'll take off
14:54 Seroster Come back to me when you tried =)
14:54 Cprossu so good stuff works.
14:55 Cprossu tie a plane to a fixed object, get the prop going fast enough, let the plane go, and it takes off
14:55 Seroster Cj1corbystarlet, Physics don't just stop working
14:55 Cj1corbystarlet The inital question needs to be drawn on a diagramme.
14:55 Cprossu the conveyer is a confusing element with no effect
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14:55 Seroster Indeed, cprossu.
14:56 Seroster Cj1corbystarlet,  A conveyor belt, going at ANY speed opposite to the plane can interfere with it's ability to take off, in any way.
14:56 Seroster Well, the any way it could interfere would be if the breakes were applied, or the bearings were bad.
14:56 Cprossu ^ can not
14:56 Cprossu lol
14:56 Angy4 next thing I want to try is using another rtmp server than Flash Something Weird I Need 10G Of Memory To Run
14:57 Seroster Cj1corbystarlet, if the thing about the conveyor was true then you couldn't take off facing east, since the rotation of the earth would cancel your thrust. It just doesnt work that way.
14:57 Angy4 Ye, I'm kidding
14:57 Cj1corbystarlet is the plane moving from point a to b or a flixed relative position
14:57 Angy4 the flash server needs it
14:57 Angy4 the flash server needs 600m
14:58 ynos Cj1corbystarlet:http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=plane+on+a+treadmill
14:58 Angy4 I think I may tune it a little, but did not even try :)
14:58 Angy4 it's natural for me to, like x10 all my figures
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14:59 Seroster ynos, Cheating.
14:59 Cprossu .g mythbusters did it
14:59 BotSteve Cprossu: http://web.mit.edu/2.009/www/lectures/10_Mythbusters.html
14:59 Cprossu *clicks*
15:00 Angy4 yep
15:00 Angy4 YEY!
15:00 Angy4 I want one
15:01 Angy4 it sharpenes the image
15:01 Angy4 but like sharpens with a blunt object
15:02 Angy4 CSI Cprossu
15:02 Angy4 you got the magic slider
15:02 Cj1corbystarlet just watched the mythbusters video,   haha you guy's are missing a acouple of things..... hehe
15:03 Cprossu ENHANCE!
15:03 Angy4 you got the computers to do CSI as well :)
15:03 Cprossu l/
15:03 Cprossu ?
15:03 Cprossu lol
15:03 Angy4 also DNA analisys *5 sec* DNA results
15:04 Angy4 mine take like 1 week to be done
15:04 Seroster Cj1corbystarlet, what? Didnt remember to factor in the chi streams?
15:04 Angy4 and I don't even try to get a profile
15:04 Cj1corbystarlet Your initial question doesn't reflect what the video shows
15:05 Seroster Yes it does? Can a conveyor belt in any way prevent a plane from taking off?
15:05 Cj1corbystarlet if the conveyor runs faster than the aircraft it wont take off
15:06 Seroster Nope
15:06 Seroster Wrong
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15:06 Cj1corbystarlet why ?
15:06 Seroster The wheels do not provide power
15:06 Cj1corbystarlet i know that
15:06 Seroster No difference if the ground is still, moving, moving the same speed, moving mach 5
15:06 Cprossu stream shut down :)
15:07 Seroster Get a HUGE tarp and an old V2 rocket, launch the rocket and a plane can STILL take off in the other direction
15:07 Angy4 aircraft don't use the ground for take off
15:07 Angy4 apart for falling on side
15:09 Cj1corbystarlet if a conveyor is pulled back at 100mph and the aircraft has only enough thrust to move it forward 100 mph it will not lift off, it has to excelerate faster than the conveyou to move its postion in space to get a airflow over the wing to generate lift and take off.
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15:09 BotSteve At last!  My only friend!
15:10 speedrunnerG55 Hi
15:10 Cj1corbystarlet as seen on the video when the aircraft is seen passing the witches hats
15:10 speedrunnerG55 :) BotSteve
15:10 Cj1corbystarlet thus it has forward airflow, and lift is generated
15:10 SparkyStudio Cj1corbystarlet that would be true if the aircraft was driven forwards by its wheels, but it's not
15:10 Angy4 nope
15:11 Angy4 for you the plane is stationary on the conveyer belt?
15:11 Angy4 or does it goes 100mph on the wrong way
15:11 Cj1corbystarlet plus they picked the lighest aircraft they coud find with the amsllest l/d ration
15:11 Angy4 if the plane is stationary, change referential on the conveyer belt, and *magic* you now goes 100mph!
15:11 Angy4 and you take off
15:12 Cj1corbystarlet Guy's where is your airflow comming from over the wing
15:12 SparkyStudio Prop and forward motion
15:12 Cj1corbystarlet wheels dont make aircraft fly or take off
15:12 Angy4 I'm an aircraft engineer btw
15:13 Angy4 you know that this is the question with which we laugh at our trainees ?
15:13 Cj1corbystarlet So where is the airflow comming from is the aircraft is stationary in space?
15:13 Angy4 IT IS NOT
15:13 Angy4 it is stationary if you look on your referential
15:13 Angy4 step on the conveyer bel
15:13 Angy4 the plane *moves*
15:13 speedrunnerG55 Is red at the lab?
15:14 SparkyStudio The prop is pulling pushing the aircraft forward with the air, not the ground
15:14 SparkyStudio this could go on forever :P
15:14 Cj1corbystarlet no sparky wrong
15:14 speedrunnerG55 What are we talking about?
15:14 Angy4 about planes and conveyer blets
15:15 speedrunnerG55 ....
15:15 Angy4 and the fact that the airbus I designed are apparently flowed
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15:15 Cj1corbystarlet proplellers do not make a wing fly,  it provides you thrust to get the airlow over a wing in layman terms
15:15 speedrunnerG55 There needs to be air flow across the air foil to create the difference in pressure
15:15 Cj1corbystarlet Yep
15:16 Angy4 it's a simple referential problem
15:16 SparkyStudio Exactly, airflow over the wing means lift
15:16 Cj1corbystarlet Bernoils prinicpal
15:16 Cj1corbystarlet Ok tell me how a plane flies ?
15:17 Angy4 not the point, the point here is that you take the earth referential as yours, but the plane, on the conveyer belt, is not on that referential
15:17 Cj1corbystarlet so how does my glider (sailplane ) fly without a propeller
15:18 Angy4 run on a conveyer belt, you'll create the presure differential
15:18 Angy4 your plane will do as well
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15:21 Seroster Cj1corbystarlet, If the plane provides 100kph of thrust and the conveyor is moving at a million kph the other way the plane WILL take off. But you might burn the bearings
15:21 Angy4 you'll blow a tire for sure
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15:22 Seroster Cj1corbystarlet, the prop or turbine provides speed relative to the air, not relative to the ground
15:22 Cj1corbystarlet if the aircraft is stationary in air it will not fly regardless of the conveyor speed
15:23 Angy4 I'm stopping arguing, go back to your physics, then you'll understand
15:23 Cprossu prop provides lift, lift causes airplane to take off. =)
15:23 Cprossu simple as that
15:23 Cj1corbystarlet ill try and get some video of me on a tredmill holding a ASI it will read zero
15:23 Seroster Angy4, I argue for the lulz.
15:23 Angy4 :)
15:23 Cprossu relative 'speeds' do not factor into this
15:24 Cprossu it's not a car
15:24 Seroster Cj1corbystarlet, Go ahead. But that got nothing to do with the plane taking off
15:24 Cprossu it's an airplane
15:24 Cj1corbystarlet Cprossu: so how does my glider fly then ? with no prop
15:24 Angy4 your glider and that is very different
15:24 Seroster Cj1corbystarlet, A glider won't take off from a conveyor belt. As a matter of fact it won't take off at all
15:24 Angy4 that's not even the same physics we're talking about
15:24 Cprossu indeed.
15:25 Cprossu an airplane provides it's own power to get up / stay in the air
15:25 Cj1corbystarlet ok someone clearley define all the parameters of the experiment and send me a pm
15:25 Cprossu 1) Get RC plane 2) put on conveyer belt 3) ??? 4) profit
15:25 Angy4 3 is sneeze I think
15:26 Cprossu and make sure you're not in front of it when it takes off
15:26 Seroster It is a simple thought experiment, can a conveyor belt going at any speed opposing the airplane impact even slightly on said planes ability to leave the ground
15:26 Cj1corbystarlet a model airfraft with a power to weight ratio that is incorrect of a real aeroplane will not demonstrate the principal ans in the video
15:26 Seroster Cj1corbystarlet, They tried it with an actual plane
15:26 Cprossu you could accomplish the same damn thing
15:26 Cprossu by just holding the wheels
15:26 Cprossu of the plane
15:26 Cprossu ramping the motor to full speed
15:26 Cprossu and letting it go
15:27 Seroster Cj1corbystarlet, the power to weight is irrelevant. If it can take off from a slab of concrete it can take off from a conveyor
15:28 Cj1corbystarlet yes because it has the thrust to move forward and freate airflow over the wings and produce lift
15:28 Cprossu the whole point of the runway is to allow the plane to be able to stop. the plane enough distance for the prop/engines to come up to speed is a secondary consideration
15:29 Cj1corbystarlet not really
15:29 Angy4 the fact that your plane stand still does not mean there is no airflow
15:29 Cj1corbystarlet i can land in 1/3 of the distance it requires to take off
15:29 Cprossu remember we are air based here
15:29 Cprossu not ground based
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15:30 Cprossu in a vacuum no air plane is taking off =P
15:30 Cj1corbystarlet true
15:30 Seroster Depends on how many rockets you strap to it =D
15:30 Guardianzozo lol
15:30 Cprossu only if you provide the oxidizer for it too, Seroster
15:30 CaptainBoden I've never seen anyone have this conversation while sober before.....
15:30 Seroster Cprossu, There are rockets without oxidizer?
15:30 Cprossu neither have I, and it's scaring me
15:31 Cprossu some are
15:31 Cprossu CaptainBoden: PM btw
15:31 Cj1corbystarlet nerely midnight here
15:31 Seroster CaptainBoden, It's always fun, no matter what drug you are under the influence of =P
15:31 Cprossu I found a 1/2 eaten away lead
15:31 CaptainBoden *cough* you know....dude...if we took a fuckin glider....and we put it*cough* on a...um....yeah...like a big fuckin conveyor belt....and....yeah.....you know.....
15:31 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Radioactive on The Dole Chefs Salad?.....Cprossu on The Dole Chefs Salad?
15:32 Seroster CaptainBoden, Glider? That's the topic for another night, mate
15:32 Seroster So what side does the Captain propose, can it take off or not?
15:32 CaptainBoden If you put a glider on a conveyor belt?
15:32 Seroster An airplane
15:32 CaptainBoden Is the glider bolted to the belt, or able to roll freely in place?
15:32 Angy4 that may be fun to argue with a glider
15:32 Seroster With it's own motor, propelles and such
15:32 CaptainBoden ok, hang on, give me the whole situation.
15:33 Seroster It is a simple thought experiment, can a conveyor belt going at any speed opposing the airplane impact even slightly on said planes ability to leave the ground
15:33 CaptainBoden So, plane on wheels, not attached to belt, moving in opposition to the belt, belt moving at high speed, etc
15:33 Seroster Yes
15:33 CaptainBoden That's easy
15:33 Angy4 the classic one
15:33 Cj1corbystarlet yep
15:33 Seroster =D
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15:34 CaptainBoden Plane will not give a shit at all about the belt, plane will move on it's own, belt WILL impact the plane, very very slightly (depending on wing height), and belt will HELP the plane, very very slightly.
15:34 Seroster CaptainBoden, Imagine a boeing on a hugeass treadmill. Like a gym treadmill
15:34 CaptainBoden The belt will have a boundry layer of air dragged along with it, it'll move a tiny bit more air across the wings, on the bottom where you want it.
15:34 CaptainBoden Aside from that, no effect at all.
15:35 Angy4 if you can have the treadmill, I'll try to get a plane for it :)
15:35 CaptainBoden The plane doesn't give a shit about the ground, at all.
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15:35 Seroster Good captain =)
15:35 CaptainBoden Now, with a big enough treadmill, there are a couple other things to consider, is the treadmill (like most) black? If so, you'll get turbulence (updrafts), just like flying a real plane over a highway.
15:36 Cj1corbystarlet thats called thermals
15:36 CaptainBoden I know
15:37 Seroster Doesnt matter what colour it is, if you draw erotic paintings on it or if you use a diesel engine versus a gasoline engine, or if the belt runs at 3mph or 500mph, the plane will still get in the air =P
15:37 Angy4 perhaps is all the planets are aligned and there is an eclipse in some far away system, that can change, but not likely to happend
15:39 Seroster Even if the earth magnetic field suddenly changed from half a gauss to a billion gauss, crushing the plane to the ground the conveyor wouldnt change the planes abilito to take off.
15:40 Cj1corbystarlet assuming the aircraft was made of steel
15:40 Seroster The only way to stop the plane from taking off would be gluing it to the conveyor, or God jamming a finger in the prop
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15:41 Angy4 you'll ruin either the conveyer belt, or someone
15:41 Angy4 but it's woth a try, jamming someone into the prop
15:42 Cj1corbystarlet Ive seen a dog go through a prop .... not nice !
15:42 Seroster The speed difference caused by the belt will be less than the differene between different batches of fuel
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15:55 Sasha__ Oh hai guys. CaptainBoden, if you're online, I sent you the package ;).
15:55 Cj1corbystarlet good night guy's and gals, i'm off to bed
15:56 Angy4 'night
15:56 Sasha__ See ya Cj1corbystarlet
15:56 Cprossu later
15:56 Sasha__ .seen captainboden
15:56 BotSteve Sasha__: I last saw captainboden 0.34 hours ago at 2011-06-29 15:36:45 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 15:56:54 UTC
15:59 Seroster Sasha__, what's in it?=P
16:04 Sasha__ Stuff :P
16:05 Cprossu you know packages that 'tick' get scrutinized extra at the post office, right?
16:05 Sasha__ I had a different problem... mine lighted up.
16:06 Angy4 so you sent corium!
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16:06 Sasha__ Nah, but I still had to take it out :P
16:08 Cprossu I don't have any corium but I do have containment building steel =P
16:09 * Angy4 mind calculate the distance between him and Cprossu
16:09 Angy4 that's safe, you can have some
16:09 Cprossu don't worry it's clean
16:10 Cprossu the reactor building it came from was shut down and put in SAFSTOR in 1987 or so
16:10 Sasha__ It wasn't because someone would get scared from the light, but because it was 1g overweight. And Cprossu, how the F*** did you get that???
16:11 Cprossu Sasha__: because I have awesome contacts
16:11 Sasha__ Man, I have a house 30km away from there, and I still don't have one!!
16:11 Cprossu or was it 1988
16:11 Cprossu or 1986
16:11 Cprossu I can't remember
16:11 Cprossu lol
16:12 Sasha__ .g Чернобль
16:12 BotSteve Sasha__: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%A7%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%8B%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%90%D0%AD%D0%A1
16:12 Cprossu wait really?
16:13 Sasha__ 1986
16:13 Sasha__ What really cprossu
16:13 Cprossu was thinking you meant you lived next to chernobyl
16:13 Cprossu for just a split second
16:13 Sasha__ Nah, I have a house near there that belongs to the family, which I usually visit every year or so.
16:14 Cprossu still neat
16:14 Sasha__ Yeah I might actually visit the actual place this summer, if we're allowed unlike last year
16:15 Cprossu I'm still waiting on a trip to hanford
16:15 Cprossu but that requires...uh... extra time
16:15 Sasha__ .g hanford
16:15 BotSteve Sasha__: http://www.hanford.gov/
16:16 Cprossu specifically I want to visit b reactor
16:16 Cprossu .w B reactor
16:16 BotSteve "The B Reactor at the Hanford Site, near Richland, Washington, USA, was the first large scale nuclear reactor ever built." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_reactor
16:17 Sasha__ BTW, anyone been inside the LHC?
16:17 Cprossu I have not
16:17 Sasha__ I have :P
16:17 Cprossu I do have 2 friends who work at fermilab though
16:17 Sasha__ I was actually proposed to work there
16:17 Cprossu and I have some FNAL gear
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16:18 Guardianzozo i lived a mile away from fermi for years
16:18 Sasha__ But I decided not to thinking that all I would be doing is making coffee and stuff, but my friend did this instead, and he got to process data, change helium tanks, and make sure that nothing blows up!
16:19 Cprossu including a union carbide table top demonstration slide projector, ethyl alchohol, and high voltage fueled cloud chamber
16:19 Cprossu making coffee at LHC? I'd have done it!
16:20 Sasha__ Not worth it dude. It only seems insane to ppl who don't live 20 minutes away from it.
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16:21 Python_ Hello World
16:21 Sasha__ Nevertheless, I regret thatmy friend got that awesome job at CERN
16:21 Sasha__ Oh hai Python_
16:23 Python_ so whats new around here ?
16:23 Sasha__ nm, I've only been on here for like 10 minutes
16:24 Cprossu let's see
16:24 Cprossu we're trying to figure out who set up the initial thegeekgroup justin.tv account- > http://thegeekgroup.org/bb/basic-group-operations/live-web-stream/
16:25 Cprossu but google cache and web archive don't have any answers
16:25 Cprossu so last hope is old database I think
16:25 Cprossu red's going to be at the lab today
16:26 Cprossu and I think that's it, Python or Python_
16:27 Sasha__ I haven't been on here for long, but OMG WHAT A FAIL :P!
16:27 Sasha__ BBl, I have an important appointment with my neighbour (ping pong revenge xD)
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16:32 Python_ hello ...
16:36 Seroster Ahoy python
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16:43 Seroster Ooooo
16:44 Seroster I found some ffx music here
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16:50 Seroster Finally!
16:51 Seroster A youtube converter that doesnt care about your adblock, and doesnt need any damn fiddling.  http://www.youtube-mp3.org/
16:55 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCpx6NHxKH8&amp;feature=related aaaand THAT'S the text message recieve sound! YEAH!
16:55 BatSteve-Away is now known as BatSteve
16:55 BatSteve Seroster, are you trolling my channel with the airplane question again?
16:55 Seroster Sorry sir!
16:56 Angy4 that was so much fun!
16:56 BatSteve (grin)
16:56 Seroster I find it far more interesting to debate airplanes on treadmills than debating theology or gun laws, since in this case there IS a right answer, and it can be proven
16:56 Seroster Ey BatSteve, like the signal? =D
16:57 Angy4 :)
16:58 BatSteve We have a signal now?
16:58 Seroster Eh
16:58 Seroster No. That last link will be the sound my phone makes when it recieves a text
16:59 Seroster Mostly because my girlfriend finds that the scariest part of the movie, and I happen to love it
17:01 BatSteve .g fat albert c130
17:01 BotSteve BatSteve: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh7kP-9iOsI
17:01 BatSteve Landing at my airport in about 30 minutes
17:01 Seroster I want one
17:01 BatSteve I'm pretty excited
17:04 maglinvinn_work anyone know of some simple but free barcode software?
17:04 maglinvinn_work i need to make a barcode.
17:05 BatSteve .g free barcode software
17:05 BotSteve BatSteve: http://www.adams1.com/share.html
17:05 ynos find the barcode font...
17:05 Seroster Bat beat me to it
17:05 BatSteve (:
17:05 Seroster Btw bad
17:05 Seroster Bat*
17:05 Seroster You are still away
17:05 BatSteve oh!
17:05 BatSteve hahah-
17:05 BatSteve I get it now
17:06 Cprossu Nice.
17:06 Cprossu I'll be back in a while, breakfast out time
17:09 Angy4 meeting time! I may be back this evening
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17:16 ynos "training" a co-worker on how to use tcpdump...
17:16 ynos its not that hard.
17:16 ynos why does it have to be so hard?
17:17 ynos tcpdump -i INTERFACE host 'HOST1 and HOST2'
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17:19 * BatSteve imagines that next there will be the lesson on "ok, no, you don't actually type "HOST1", you *replace* that with....ok never mind, I'm getting a drink"
17:19 Seroster Now let's just hope the computer-phone interface works like a charm, and I don't have to fiddle around with a few hours of bullshit
17:20 Seroster BatSteve, How about pizza tonight, hun?
17:20 ynos i am starting to see why my predisessor(sp?) got fired for having a bottle of gin in his car.
17:20 Seroster Having a bottle of gin in your car is stupid...
17:20 ynos yup
17:21 ynos not disagreein with you there.
17:21 Seroster But being fired over it... That's even stupider
17:22 ynos when he would go out for his "smoke breaks" he would take a couple swigs.
17:22 ynos drunk@work
17:22 Seroster Right
17:22 ynos i can see how some of these people would drive someone to it.
17:23 ynos i bet half of the scase employees grew up downstream from the dow plant.
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17:29 Seroster CRAP
17:29 Seroster My phone records audio at 44khz
17:31 BatSteve aight, back to work
17:31 BatSteve is now known as BatSteve-Away
17:31 Seroster Cya battie
17:34 devast8a is now known as devast8a|sleep
17:37 Sasha__ Re-hai guys. Did CaptainBoden Re-show up :P?
17:38 Sasha__ Uh you lazy ass bitches
17:38 Sasha__ .seen CaptainBode
17:38 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen captainbode around.
17:38 Sasha__ .seen CaptainBoden
17:38 BotSteve Sasha__: I last saw captainboden 2.03 hours ago at 2011-06-29 15:36:45 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 17:38:28 UTC
17:41 Seroster Sounds about right
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17:50 Druidic_Rifleman ugh mornigns suck and someone should shoot them
17:50 Druidic_Rifleman CaptainBoden i needa gun to shoot time with...
17:54 Seroster And the fan works!
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18:01 ynos Druidic_Rifleman:morning thought you were in .ca?
18:02 ynos morning ended a few hours ago!
18:02 Druidic_Rifleman My day starts at 2 normally and some jack ass decided to wake me before noon
18:02 ynos you on call?
18:03 Druidic_Rifleman it's als still monring in utah Alberta Bc california origon montanna and a few other places
18:03 Druidic_Rifleman Insomnia due to post tramatic stress
18:03 ynos but you are in ontario.. further east than me!
18:03 ynos ahh
18:03 Druidic_Rifleman Morning suck
18:03 Druidic_Rifleman No matter when your monring is
18:03 ynos Instant human, just add coffee?
18:04 Druidic_Rifleman that doesn't help
18:04 Druidic_Rifleman I wonder if i should take the SKS to the cottage
18:04 ynos why do cats feel the urge to put thair anus in you face?
18:04 Druidic_Rifleman it's a shame 7.62x39mm Supper incidiary is illegal in canada
18:05 Druidic_Rifleman would make for fun canada day
18:05 * ynos yells at the cat to gtfo
18:05 ynos that would make a mess of whatever hit it fer sure
18:05 Druidic_Rifleman Yep
18:06 Druidic_Rifleman 7.62x39 does a pretty good job with just lead abll
18:06 Druidic_Rifleman Ball
18:06 Druidic_Rifleman lead core*
18:06 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.cpgear.com/StoreBox/mpou/4038_0.htm i wonder if this will fit my FRS...
18:07 ynos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFuEir2N1Ho
18:07 ynos hawt
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18:09 Druidic_Rifleman noooo the chick i saw saterday night who looked like asajj ventriss she was hot
18:12 ynos ever see the dragon's breath 12ga ammo?
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18:14 ynos http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon%27s_Breath
18:15 injection Good afternoon everyone :)
18:15 injection is now known as injektion
18:18 ynos hiya
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18:27 * ynos yawns
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18:31 Cprossu hey I am back yo
18:32 Cprossu .tfw 85020
18:32 BotSteve 103�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'I just saw a fucking bird panting.'
18:37 Cprossu TF2 time
18:38 ynos .tfw 49345
18:38 BotSteve 76�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Sparta, MI!  'Enjoy.'
18:38 ynos fck yeah it is!
18:38 Cprossu hey ynos
18:38 Cprossu lol
18:38 injektion 103F in low humidity stop complaning
18:38 Cprossu wow
18:38 Cprossu I just want to know
18:38 Cprossu ynos is that sparta?
18:39 ynos hey man, how is the streaming going?
18:39 xanhs why does the bot say the temp in phoenix everytime?
18:39 ynos did you find that passwd?
18:39 Cprossu streaming is going way cool
18:39 Cprossu because I ask it to, xanhs
18:39 ynos THIS IS SPARTA(rmixed)
18:40 xanhs oke
18:40 xanhs thats why
18:40 injektion I'd rather be in AZ right now instead of GA due to the weather
18:40 ynos We are lucky enough to have all the lakes around us to keep us cool.
18:41 ynos but it also drives the humidity up during july, august, sept
18:41 ynos 90+deg with %100 rel humidity
18:41 injektion 89F with 46% humidity isn't fun. Now 103F with 17% would be more bearable
18:42 ynos anyone have any rifled barrels to hack on?
18:43 ynos i read some inspiration last night a bout a 54cal air rifle.
18:43 ynos home made.
18:43 ynos other than the barrel
18:44 ynos rifling is a PITA to do even halfassed.
18:45 injektion I want to get a de-humidifier for the house so it stays cooler
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18:48 Seroster I need some really hardcore music. Imagine the bastard child of Skrillex and Dimmu Borgir. Go fetch it!
18:48 Seroster .tfw 29144
18:48 BotSteve Unknown location
18:48 Seroster Bitch
18:48 Seroster .tfw 29145
18:48 BotSteve 88�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Silverstreet, SC!  'So hot my dog developed sweat glands.'
18:48 Seroster Sc?
18:49 Seroster ...
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18:59 mashpriborintorg hi all
19:00 mashpriborintorg livestream is lagging or it is me ?
19:02 astro73|derrial it's lagging out, yeah
19:05 mashpriborintorg so many stuff it these boxes, it's like in my garage
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19:05 Cprossu .tfw 85020
19:05 BotSteve 104�F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Phoenix, AZ!  '...in bed!'
19:06 astro73|derrial so, for a group of pretty technological people, why does everyone use the webchat?
19:06 mashpriborintorg but I am very cautionous so each item is wrapped in air bubble film, I do not want scratches on my goodies
19:06 Cprossu technological people are lazy?
19:07 mashpriborintorg irc clients give me headaches
19:07 Cprossu I'm rather happy not using the webclient for anything serious though
19:07 ynos i like irssi/tmux
19:07 ynos makes life easier.
19:07 ynos just leave it on all the time.
19:08 mashpriborintorg tggmc1, the stream is lagging, stop downloading WOW add-ons
19:08 Cprossu I've been using mirc for a decade or so
19:08 Cprossu before that I used pirch
19:09 mashpriborintorg Chris looks terrible with this hat
19:09 mashpriborintorg yo
19:10 astro73|derrial must have found it in a gaylord
19:10 astro73|derrial and it must be a very good day
19:10 Cprossu LOL omg
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19:16 Seroster Grrrd
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19:26 speedrunnerG55 hi
19:27 Toastdude HI!!!
19:27 mashpriborintorg hi
19:27 Python hello
19:27 mashpriborintorg off air, the connection went down
19:27 speedrunnerG55 :)
19:27 Cprossu anyone here at the lab?
19:27 speedrunnerG55 ##electronics
19:28 Cprossu they should be coming back up now
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19:29 speedrunnerG55 did they switch yet?
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19:29 speedrunnerG55 WWB
19:29 speedrunnerG55 WB*
19:29 Cprossu not yet the reasoning being we're trying to find the PW to the original stream on justin.tv
19:29 Cprossu or at least email used
19:30 speedrunnerG55 0_0
19:30 speedrunnerG55 who lost it?
19:30 Cprossu remember the great forum apocalypse?
19:30 Cprossu http://thegeekgroup.org/bb/basic-group-operations/live-web-stream/
19:31 Cprossu ^ certain important data that would yield the answer is missing
19:31 speedrunnerG55 no i dont
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19:32 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Bill Jones on Power Wheels Robot
19:32 Ponko92 well...... that was fun
19:32 Ponko92 hey
19:32 Ponko92 all
19:33 Cprossu I'm gonna nmap 96.117.155.4 and see if I can figure out wtf it is
19:33 speedrunnerG55 derp?
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19:34 SparkyStudio cprossu, i know that Moose was working on Ustream in the early stages, i would guess she also had something to do with Justin, maybe they could send an email to Justin with suggestions of possible mails, if a TGG one was used, that would be obvious proof
19:36 speedrunnerG55 i cant ping that adress
19:37 Ponko92 wait whats going on?
19:37 speedrunnerG55 what is 96.117.155.4
19:38 Ponko92 Status Cprossu
19:39 Cprossu status is no one is answering lab phone, stream is down, netapocalypse is in fill ...omg.
19:39 Cprossu 11  1154 ms  1190 ms  1155 ms  74.125.225.17
19:39 Cprossu ^ to google
19:39 Ponko92 damn
19:39 Cprossu 1.1 seconds to googl
19:39 Ponko92 so pretty much Stalingrad at 1941 for the russians
19:40 Ponko92 where at DEFCON 1 Cprossu
19:40 Cprossu minus any mortors
19:40 Ponko92 good point
19:40 Cprossu somehow teamviewer still is working
19:40 Cprossu I DONT KNOW HOW
19:40 speedrunnerG55 what the zoinks?
19:41 Cprossu magic.
19:41 Ponko92 lol
19:41 Cprossu I'm blaming it on magic
19:41 Seroster Eeep
19:41 mashpriborintorg maybe Cory did divide by zero, while processing a video
19:41 Ponko92 O_O
19:41 speedrunnerG55 lol
19:41 mashpriborintorg it did create a singularity and absorbed everything around
19:42 Ponko92 so pretty much we're up shits creek without paddle
19:42 SparkyStudio Cory's uploading 10 tgg vids all at once while viewing Taco porn
19:43 Ponko92 oh god
19:43 Ponko92 hahahaha
19:43 speedrunnerG55 o_o
19:45 * Ponko92 is looking for a bag of Shortbreads he only JUST opened
19:45 speedrunnerG55 0_0
19:45 Ponko92 oh they were under the laptop
19:47 mashpriborintorg The most annoying is when you lost something, you know you've seen it somewhere, but you can't remember where
19:47 mashpriborintorg and as long as you search, you don't find
19:47 Toastdude It's DEFCON 0 lol
19:48 Ponko92 how is that possible
19:48 Ponko92 ........ Its NOT
19:48 Toastdude Idk....
19:48 mashpriborintorg kzoo tax department did send his nuclear bombers ?
19:48 Cprossu ok so
19:48 Cprossu ...uh
19:48 Cprossu should I call moose now?
19:48 Cprossu lol
19:49 Toastdude It's only possible when Cory is uploading 10 videos and watching taco porn...
19:49 Seroster Err
19:50 Ponko92 well if the tigers are glowing in there next game yep the got the bombs alright....
19:50 mashpriborintorg taco porn... I wonder how it is
19:50 mashpriborintorg not interested, btw XD
19:51 Toastdude Lol
19:51 Toastdude It's probably Red's fault ;)
19:51 Toastdude She came back to the lab and her awesomeness imploded the lab
19:51 Ponko92 O_O everywhere is on RED ALERT
19:53 Cprossu moose no answer =(
19:53 Cprossu nap time.
19:53 Ponko92 this is D-Day
19:54 mashpriborintorg In case of alien invasion, I'm interested in alien electronics autopsies
19:55 mashpriborintorg and some artefacts should look great in my living room
19:55 Ponko92 yeah i can see Chris doing that with a biosuit then getting a plasma gun and fighting off the alien invaders
19:57 SparkyProjects Aliens have probably advanced into neural network computing using biological parts.
19:57 Toastdude Lol
19:57 mashpriborintorg too bad they did not install the giant defensive tesla coil on the roof
19:58 mashpriborintorg electronics at the  atomic level are the ultimate step
19:58 Ponko92 they probably have everything that we're meant to have in Back To The Future Part 2
19:59 SparkyProjects I just knew TGG should have taken ove Wardencliffe
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20:00 wannabe1987 wait
20:00 wannabe1987 hello?
20:00 wannabe1987 speedrunnerG55
20:00 wannabe1987 Cprossu
20:00 wannabe1987 exor674
20:00 speedrunnerG55 hi
20:00 wannabe1987 ...
20:00 wannabe1987 what happened?
20:00 speedrunnerG55 0_0
20:00 wannabe1987 why am i here
20:00 Ponko92 hey wannabe1987
20:00 mashpriborintorg hi wana
20:00 wannabe1987 has it been thirty days?  i dont' think so...
20:00 Ponko92 o_O eh?
20:00 wannabe1987 o shit
20:00 speedrunnerG55 0_0
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20:01 Python ?
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20:01 Python ? ...
20:01 Ponko92 umm...........
20:02 mashpriborintorg wanabe, stop slamming the door
20:02 Python well ... that was odd
20:02 mashpriborintorg strange events
20:02 * mashpriborintorg checking the ak-47
20:03 * Python shrugs and walks away
20:04 mashpriborintorg If it's zombie attack, i hope it will be beautifull zombies, at least
20:04 speedrunnerG55 BotSteve: tell BatSteve [16:02] <wannabe1987> yeah...i'm gonna get a msg to batsteve saying it was an accident [16:02] <speedrunnerG55> ok u go do that [16:03] <wannabe1987> but he's away
20:04 BotSteve speedrunnerG55: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
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20:05 * Ponko92 is wondering why there is a ak-47 in here
20:06 Ponko92 speedrunnerG55: ? o_O
20:06 mashpriborintorg because it can always help
20:06 speedrunnerG55 0_0
20:07 mashpriborintorg RPG-9 are great also, but it you drop it, il wikll explode at you face
20:07 Python I guess I should pay closer attention to the IRC, but I must ask what the message to batsteve was about ...
20:08 mashpriborintorg It has piezo-electric trigger in the nose...
20:09 Python speedrunnerG55 ?
20:10 speedrunnerG55 Python: ?
20:10 Python I guess I should pay closer attention to the IRC, but I must ask what the message to batsteve was about ...
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20:11 mashpriborintorg and did speak by accident ?
20:11 mashpriborintorg this is damn strange
20:12 Python is wanabe banned or something ?
20:12 mashpriborintorg someone should are used her pc and logged onto the irc by error ?
20:14 Ponko92 how about my faves mashpriborintorg
20:14 Ponko92 H&K G3KA4, MP5 :P
20:14 mashpriborintorg don't kow
20:15 Ponko92 they might help
20:15 Seroster I wonder how long it would take a 10 year old kid that had NEVER EVER used a computer before to figure out how a laptop works (already open, on and logged in)
20:15 Ponko92 give me the roof and a H&K MG45
20:17 speedrunnerG55 im starting my stream!!
20:17 ynos ponko92:  /mode #thegeekgroup +b will list who is banned..
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20:17 speedrunnerG55 http://www.blogtv.com/people/speedrunnerg55/
20:18 ynos -!- 1 - #thegeekgroup: ban *!~wannabe19@*.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com [by masterofmonks!~Elim@67.158.158.145, 751988 secs ago]
20:18 Ponko92 ynos i hope you're not threatening to ban me o_O
20:18 ynos nope
20:18 ynos i cant
20:18 Seroster ynos, There are reasons beyond is that happened.
20:18 ynos ahh
20:18 Seroster I suggest you do not keep discussing that particular topic
20:18 ynos i dont know the why, i just know whe who and when ;)
20:19 ynos ok
20:19 tonsofpcs hi hi
20:19 ynos hallo
20:19 Seroster I know a little about why, but I also know that there is no way the decision could be revoked, and spekulation wouldnt make anything better for anyone.
20:19 Seroster Let's talk about bedini motors instead =D
20:20 ynos pffftlol
20:20 Ponko92 how about Tactics for defending a fortress from a Zombie Apocalypse
20:20 Seroster That's the funniest thing on the net "I made a bedini motor! N IT WORKED!!!"
20:20 speedrunnerG55 annyone here in the stream?
20:20 mashpriborintorg lots on background noise it seem
20:20 Seroster Ponko92, What kind of zombies?
20:21 Ponko92 any
20:21 ynos my majikul transfermer makes extra energies!
20:21 Seroster The ADHD zombies of 28weeks later, with an incubation time of <10minutes, the stupid and easily killed ones in zombieland or the sluggish Resident Evil zombies with incubation time of one or two days?
20:21 ynos hawt zombies
20:22 ynos with strong penis hunger. and no outward signs of zombieness
20:22 Ponko92 O_O
20:22 Seroster ynos, I think I saw a movie like that a few months back
20:22 Seroster "Zombie strippers"
20:22 mashpriborintorg Selena was pretty cool girl in 28 week later
20:22 Seroster What it lacked in plot it regained in boobflashes
20:22 ynos nice
20:23 Ponko92 sometimes at 6amish it feels like that movie around here
20:23 ynos i have heard of it, but never watched
20:23 Seroster It's about a small zombie outbreak at a stripclub, the strippers become zombies one by one, but the manager doesnt care since it makes them better strippers
20:23 Seroster And... It's just fucking awful x-d
20:23 Seroster I highly recomend ti!
20:23 Ponko92 lol
20:24 mashpriborintorg yeah vampires are more... interesting
20:24 tonsofpcs so anyone from NY to MI, looks like my road trip might be doable.... will definitely need a place to crash in/near GR and will definitely need others to pick up along the way to share cost (driving out friday, returning monday).
20:24 ynos going through canada, or taking the south route?
20:25 tonsofpcs I do have a passport... either is possible
20:25 Ponko92 ah ffs
20:25 tonsofpcs I'm just outside Binghamton, NY
20:25 Ponko92 i wanna come :(
20:26 tonsofpcs Ponko92: where are you?
20:26 Ponko92 Luton
20:26 Ponko92 UK
20:26 Seroster tonsofpcs, I hope you have a paddle!
20:26 ynos so is this becomming a pigremage to mecca?
20:26 Ponko92 ...... yeah
20:26 tonsofpcs Ponko92: that's a bit far, but if you can manage to get a journey leg here prior to my road trip, you can ride along
20:26 Seroster tonsofpcs, If you pick up Ponko92 you can grab me too? Just another two dips in the ocean and then we can go for a road trip! =D
20:27 Ponko92 well i'm busy monday and friday which is ANOTHER pain
20:27 Seroster Or wait... I think you can get from sweden to britain without having to take your shoes off...
20:27 tonsofpcs Ponko92: yea, monday is a holiday here.  Something about telling off the brits...
20:28 Seroster Ponko92, isnt there a tunnel britain -> france?
20:28 tonsofpcs Seroster: there's a chunnel
20:28 tonsofpcs there's also ferries
20:28 Seroster Great! Then you can take the dry way to pick me up, at least after you got over that pesky atlantic puddle
20:28 Ponko92 yeah
20:28 Ponko92 to seroster AND tonsofpc
20:29 mashpriborintorg they're alive !
20:29 SparkyStudio stream is back
20:29 tonsofpcs Seroster: I'm not driving any further east than Delhi (NY, not India, sorry).
20:29 Ponko92 hahaha lol
20:29 Seroster tonsofpcs, If you want to you can detour around russia and get sasha too?
20:30 Seroster And while we are at it we can hit the other pond and go get ThermoElectric and Cprossu in 'stralia!
20:30 mashpriborintorg I've created my blog.tv account, I may stream an equipment autopsy or something like that someday
20:30 Seroster (And I sincerely hope I didnt place cprossu in the wrong country)
20:30 Ponko92 Seroster Crpossu is.....
20:31 Ponko92 in Arizona
20:31 Seroster Fuck
20:31 Ponko92 so yes you did :P lol
20:31 Cprossu_Laptop yay we are back up lol
20:31 Lanther http://www.villageinstruments.com/tiki-index.php?page=ViDock
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20:32 Ponko92_ gaaaaaah
20:32 Ponko92_ what the BLLOOODY hell happened
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20:33 SparkyStudio You became a devil with a tail
20:34 Ponko92_ oh blimey
20:34 * Ponko92_ starts up chainsaw
20:34 * Ponko92_ slices down through tail
20:35 mashpriborintorg who will have to clean the mess after
20:35 * Ponko92_ raises hand
20:35 SparkyStudio If you're registered, identify (or is it ghost)
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20:36 Ponko92_ is now known as Ponko92
20:36 * tonsofpcs posts to forums
20:36 * Ponko92 sweeps up mess whistling a hip tune
20:37 * Ponko92 looks around wondering why everyone is staring at him
20:39 ynos time to go meet the 'rents for dinner
20:39 ynos later all
20:39 Lanther http://www.retroleum.co.uk/electronics-articles/previous/the-v4z80p-a-z80-based-laptop/
20:39 ynos is now known as ynos|dinner
20:39 tonsofpcs >> http://thegeekgroup.org/bb/general-chat/holiday-weekend-road-trip-to-tgg-in-gr/ <<
20:39 * Ponko92 continues to sweep and whistle
20:41 tonsofpcs Ponko92: if you can make it across the pond, I think we'd proudly show you how we blow stuff up while commemorating our separation from the crown
20:43 Ponko92 lol i was in the US last weekend
20:43 tonsofpcs right, last weekend didn't include July 4.
20:44 tonsofpcs and you were here playing football, right?
20:44 Ponko92 yep
20:44 tonsofpcs real football or the pansy american kind where you use your hands?
20:44 Ponko92 the latter
20:44 tonsofpcs :(
20:44 * mashpriborintorg goes to bed, cheers
20:44 tonsofpcs g'nite mashpriborintorg
20:44 mashpriborintorg lots of work tomorrow :(
20:45 Ponko92 i played the former then got snubbed over by my team then got benched by the worst team on a sunday league
20:46 * tonsofpcs wonders if any of the former is on TV right now... probably a bit late in germany...
20:46 Ponko92 ah you're german?
20:47 tonsofpcs no, the (women's) world cup is in germany
20:47 Ponko92 ah yes
20:48 Ponko92 its neatly 11pm
20:48 Ponko92 nearly*
20:48 Ponko92 brb
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20:52 Ponko92 lol
20:52 Python wow ! there are people on the livestream, I haven't seen that for a few days (nor have I been watching the livestream)
20:52 Ponko92 gfexplorer
20:53 Python its amazing !
20:53 tonsofpcs interesting green stripes on the commercial on the live stream...
20:55 Ponko92 lol love it just count 5 secs and boom stream is back
20:55 Python your guys aren't running adblock ?!!!
20:55 Ponko92 if i can get it on IE9 then i'll get it
20:56 Ponko92 and no Python it just goes down for a unknown reason
20:56 Ponko92 back after 5 secs though
20:56 Python I am not seeing that behavior on the stream
20:57 Python (I'm also running Linux and Firefox)
20:57 Ponko92 no it doesn't go offline it just goes blank for moment till you go back to the page or tab
21:03 Ponko92 anyway
21:06 speedrunnerG55 http://www.blogtv.com/people/speedrunnerg55/
21:11 * Ponko92 shakes speedrunnerG55's hand
21:14 Ponko92 hmm
21:17 BatSteve-Away is now known as BatSteve
21:19 BatSteve sup doods
21:19 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
21:19 BotSteve At 20:04Z, speedrunnerG55 asked me to tell BatSteve [16:02] <wannabe1987> yeah...i'm gonna get a msg to batsteve saying it was an accident [16:02] <speedrunnerG55> ok u go do that [16:03] <wannabe1987> but he's away
21:19 BatSteve speedrunnerG55: thanks!
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21:24 Cprossu_Laptop good arbitrary time of the day to you
21:24 Cprossu_Laptop ahhh damn
21:24 speedrunnerG55 eh?
21:25 Cprossu_Laptop steve's in
21:25 speedrunnerG55 hi steve
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21:25 speedrunnerG55 hi
21:25 speedrunnerG55 tggmc:
21:25 tggmc hello cprossu
21:25 Cprossu hello
21:25 Cprossu lol
21:25 Cprossu how goes it?
21:26 tggmc tired, hope to add more inputs to the saturn today
21:26 Cprossu nice.
21:26 Cprossu a lot of work today?
21:26 Cprossu also I see we are still 1/2 a second to google o_o
21:27 Cprossu I did some nmapping of that ip
21:27 Cprossu but I still have no clue
21:27 Cprossu what it is
21:27 tggmc we are currently uploading a video to youtube so don't be too sorprised if we drop a few frames
21:27 Cprossu yeah but before you uploaded
21:27 Cprossu it was having issues
21:27 tggmc i know
21:27 Cprossu like the entire last night
21:28 Cprossu oh that reminds me
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21:29 Cprossu we're switching over to justin.tv as soon as we can
21:29 Cprossu but we're trying to find out who's got the email for thegeekgroup channel
21:30 BatSteve for ustream?
21:30 BatSteve isn't it moose?
21:30 BatSteve or possibly DavidJKuhr
21:31 Cprossu I have no clue but there's a hint here -> http://thegeekgroup.org/bb/basic-group-operations/live-web-stream/
21:31 Cprossu ^ tggmc
21:31 Cprossu wait is the website down?
21:31 Cprossu no it's working
21:32 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Eric Adler on Holiday Weekend Road Trip to TGG in GR
21:32 Cprossu any ideas steve?
21:33 tggmc if the date stamps are right that htread is pre leonard labs
21:33 tggmc by about 1 year
21:33 Cprossu yeah.
21:33 BatSteve Ah
21:33 BatSteve yes
21:33 Cprossu I pm'ed moose
21:33 BatSteve I was the OP in that thread
21:33 BatSteve ...maybe it was me
21:33 Cprossu but who knows if she got it
21:33 BatSteve hmmm
21:33 BatSteve Cprossu:  if it is me, what do you need me to do?
21:34 Cprossu well
21:34 Cprossu do you still have the same email?
21:34 BatSteve yes
21:34 Cprossu search your email for justin.tv emails
21:34 Cprossu if you didn't delete them
21:34 Cprossu then we do a pw reset
21:34 Cprossu OR
21:34 Cprossu you could see if your pw works
21:35 BatSteve I have a big GPG-encrypted file with all my historic passwords
21:35 Cprossu http://www.justin.tv/user/login
21:35 BatSteve let me see if justin.tv is in there
21:35 BatSteve oh
21:35 BatSteve yep
21:35 BatSteve it's me
21:35 BatSteve what do you need?
21:36 Cprossu well hang on
21:36 Cprossu pm
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21:40 Cprossu ok tggmc incoming pm/etc in a bit
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21:41 SparkyProjects If anyone is there Cprossu
21:42 BatSteve Cprossu: did you change my password?
21:42 BatSteve that was the best password ever
21:42 BatSteve even better than "hunter2"
21:42 BatSteve I'm going to be upset with you if you changed it.
21:42 BatSteve (:
21:43 Cprossu I have not lol
21:49 Cprossu tggmc
21:49 Cprossu get that xml file off of the MC computer
21:49 Cprossu it's the flash media encoder template
21:49 Cprossu lol BatSteve thanks
21:50 BatSteve Cprossu: happy to help
21:50 BatSteve also, back to work
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21:50 Cprossu tggmc ding ding tggmc
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21:51 SparkyProjects I don't know if they have speakers on the irc computer, you'll have to get lucky when someone walks by
21:51 SparkyProjects Might have more success if you leeave a big message on the saturn computer thing
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21:53 Sasha-iPhone Hello
21:54 Sasha-iPhone .seen CaptainBoden
21:54 BotSteve Sasha-iPhone: I last saw captainboden 6.29 hours ago at 2011-06-29 15:36:45 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 21:54:21 UTC
21:58 Sasha-iPhone Guys, you're boring…
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22:00 Seroster .... I didnt know brass was magnetic
22:00 Seroster Piece of cheap fucking SHIT
22:01 SparkyProjects Probably tin with a brass plating
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22:06 Cprossu tggmc one more ding
22:07 SparkyProjects Seroster, check 'brass types' here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brass
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22:11 Seroster SparkyProjects, Cheapest steel you can find plated with brass
22:11 Seroster Wouldnt surprise me a second if it was spraypaint
22:14 Ponko92 ah dangit i missed my main man
22:17 Ponko92 Botsteve tell batsteve that Ponko92 missed his main man, which i think is you boss.
22:18 Ponko92 BotSteve: tell BatSteve that Ponko92 missed his main man, which i think is you boss.
22:18 BotSteve Ponko92: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
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22:18 Ponko92 ok minor adjustments but lets hope that works lol
22:21 Ponko92 hmm is anyone there
22:21 Ponko92 tggmc?
22:22 Seroster I am
22:22 Ponko92 good
22:22 Ponko92 tggmc is that you Steve
22:25 Ponko92 STEVE
22:25 Ponko92 :D
22:25 Ponko92 yes
22:25 Ponko92 lol thought that was him dinging you ;)
22:25 Ponko92 hey Cprossu
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22:29 * Ponko92 feels like he's being a nuisance so is shutting up
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22:41 Cprossu tggmc got the manual lol
22:41 Cprossu hey Ponko92
22:41 Cprossu http://www.smc.com/files/AV/SMCD3G_Cable_Modem_Gateway_UserManual.pdf
22:41 Cprossu meet the box of horror
22:42 Cprossu I'm looking into how to set it on bypass
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22:42 eadthem its not in bridge mode by default ?
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22:44 Ponko92 gotta build bypasses Cprossu
22:44 eadthem i mean its a cable modem      half the point of cable is not haivng a POS router/modem combo
22:46 * Ponko92 hopes Cprossu got that reference
22:46 Angy4 I got new on the GE thing Cprossu
22:47 eadthem Cprossu  you want it bridge mode   liek a normal dum cable modem right?
22:47 Angy4 My friend tels me that he think the part you gave is not the actual part number of the assemble, but it's like a board code or something like that
22:47 Cprossu eadthem that's what I am going to have them do
22:47 Cprossu we need to build a router first
22:48 Cprossu Angy4 that wouldn't surprise me
22:48 eadthem o  nvm  i thought you wer asking how to set it for bridge
22:48 Cprossu I really don't have much to go on
22:48 Cprossu eadthem we're gonna set it to bypass the router function all together
22:48 Cprossu but we need to get it's settings if it's static and lots of other fun hell
22:48 Cprossu but first thing's first
22:49 speedrunnerG55 Hi
22:49 Cprossu we need a god damn router
22:49 Cprossu so we're building one out of a thinkcenter
22:49 ynos|dinner is now known as ynos
22:49 ynos dont forget to get the port forwards
22:49 Cprossu we shouldn't have to
22:49 tonsofpcs ynos: so are you in ontario or ?
22:49 eadthem dont need port forwards if ots a bridge
22:50 ynos am in michigan
22:50 tonsofpcs ah
22:50 ynos 10 miles north of tgg
22:50 eadthem bridge mode is just a media converter    its stupied   like a usb cable
22:50 Cprossu ynos can you drive up to the lab?
22:50 Cprossu and get your setup in action?
22:50 tonsofpcs was wondering why you were asking about routes
22:50 ynos right.. but f it is a router, it sounds like there might be some port forwards going to the MC
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22:50 eadthem it appears this modem dosent have a option for bridge mode
22:50 Cprossu I have no clue until I log into it
22:50 Cprossu there has to be one
22:51 Cprossu in these 68 pages
22:51 eadthem not nessicarly
22:51 ynos i would hope...
22:51 Cprossu it's just called something really dumb
22:51 tonsofpcs speed-mobile should drive up here and join in the road trip
22:51 eadthem ive run in to many dsl modems that dont support bridge mode
22:51 tonsofpcs eadthem: swap modems out?
22:51 speed-mobile O_o
22:51 eadthem ive never run in to a router / cable modem combo
22:51 ynos i have my daughter here till sunday, no geek group visits till then
22:51 Cprossu I have before
22:51 speed-mobile Whats that tonsofpcs ?
22:51 Cprossu but it was a motorola
22:51 tonsofpcs eadthem: I have.  They suck
22:51 Cprossu and it's built in router sucked to
22:51 tonsofpcs speed-mobile: http://thegeekgroup.org/bb/general-chat/holiday-weekend-road-trip-to-tgg-in-gr/
22:51 eadthem ive herd of them  for  phone stuff
22:51 Cprossu until I disabled it
22:52 eadthem but never had the displesure
22:52 tonsofpcs actually, many cable modems have built in routers disabled by default
22:52 ynos i think sunday or monday would be a good day for it.
22:52 Cprossu motorola SBG900 to be exact
22:52 eadthem tonsofpcs as they shuld be
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22:52 eadthem ya well motorola is atleast 1/2 way decent
22:52 eadthem 2 wire   now that sucks ass
22:52 Cprossu what I should have done
22:52 Cprossu is sent my extra SB5100 (00) to tgg
22:52 Cprossu in my last package
22:52 tonsofpcs like, the newer surfboards mostly all have routers.  mostly they're all disabled (or have interesting hidden things enabled) by the ISP
22:52 tonsofpcs and locked per docsis
22:53 eadthem this motorola dsl modem i got right now  had a very easy to find bridge mode seeting
22:53 Ponko92 Cprossu that book reminds me of what i had to read wednesday to saturday night
22:53 eadthem hell att's setup paper for dummys even said where it was and what it was    folowing up with a sturn recommendation aganst
22:54 tonsofpcs i mean, technically every DOCSIS modem includes a router of some kind to handle the .100.1 crap
22:54 ynos .100.1 crap?
22:54 eadthem mmm most cable modems dont handle the 100.1 crap
22:54 tonsofpcs ynos: all docsis modems are 192.168.100.1
22:54 eadthem they drop everything  in the private range   stupidly
22:55 tonsofpcs eadthem: huh?
22:55 ynos thats great..
22:55 ynos i never had to deal with them on the client siide
22:55 eadthem every cable modem ive had on TWC and comcast  as well as my parents cox    never had anything setup page wise for the modem
22:55 eadthem you plugged something in   it had the external ip
22:55 ynos only on the ldapserver/cisco side.
22:55 eadthem ya  there is that
22:56 ynos we always gave ours something in the 10. range
22:56 tonsofpcs eadthem: right.  It has an external IP.  It also has 192.168.100.1.
22:56 ynos so we could access them internally and get stats from them as far as noise ratios
22:56 eadthem tons  ya    for the docsis
22:57 tonsofpcs right.  They have to have a (minimalistic) router that handles that.
22:57 speedrunnerG55 O_o
22:57 tonsofpcs o_O
22:57 ynos ^_^
22:57 * tonsofpcs needs to make a script that replies to O_o with o_O
22:57 speedrunnerG55 Lol
22:57 tonsofpcs and ^_^ with *_*
22:57 speedrunnerG55 Lolol
22:58 ynos and viceversa
22:58 tonsofpcs and lolol with "no, it wasn't that funny.  Seriously.  Stop it."
22:58 tonsofpcs ynos: no, because then it's too easy for it to loop.
22:58 tonsofpcs if it only replies one way, i can duplicate the script to others and not worry about loops
22:58 ynos you cant filter out botname?
22:58 tonsofpcs I mean, I suppose I could embed a control code and filter against that
22:58 ynos what kinda perlmonkey are you :P
22:59 tonsofpcs ynos: loop with others.  How do I know if you are running the same exact script or not?
22:59 ynos that could be fun
22:59 tonsofpcs go for it.  I hate coding perl for irssi
22:59 eadthem Cprossu  quick googleing leads to  SMC cable modems featuring a nat router  do not have  (inpaitcular  smcd3g) a bridge mode
22:59 ynos imagine the logs with a few thousand ^_^ *_* lines
22:59 speedrunnerG55 I could reply *_* with o_O
22:59 ynos in a second's time
23:00 ynos i hate perl
23:00 eadthem there mostly upset comcast customers as well :p
23:00 speedrunnerG55 And O_o with ^_^
23:00 tonsofpcs ...
23:00 eadthem ask comcast if they will give you a scientific atlanta  or a toshiba modem without nat
23:00 tonsofpcs anyway, driving home now, cya in a bit (then i'mma watch live.twit.tv til 9:30pm ish [EDT])
23:01 tonsofpcs ask comcast if they will donate a glass connection :D
23:01 eadthem the one i had was SA       on TWC i had toshibas both times     the time before that it was a 3com sharkfin witch died after 6 months
23:01 speedrunnerG55 O_o
23:01 tonsofpcs i've never had a problem with a _working_ surfboard (I've had dead ones, but they were dead.)
23:01 eadthem my grandpa has had a motorla surfboard for 10 years +
23:02 speedrunnerG55 Eh?
23:03 eadthem pritty shure its a docsis 1.0      the thing just wotn die
23:03 eadthem this is funny comcast uses this SMCD3G for busness class cable    and it wont suport bridge mode
23:05 eadthem Cprossu  theres a couple pepole that say if you disable all the modem stuff and then assign your real router a static public IP  the SMC will automaticly work as a bridge
23:05 ynos i talked to a couple guys that i used to work with, it sounds like it would be about $2.4k/mo for a 24mb enet drop.
23:05 ynos the comcast thing starts at $50, goes up to $200
23:06 Cprossu man this is nuts
23:06 Cprossu eadthem that's what I am counting on
23:06 eadthem thats just stupid
23:06 eadthem there shuld be a box or somethign
23:07 Cprossu WOW
23:07 Cprossu traceroute: google.com: Unknown host
23:07 eadthem also im getting a lot of  if your on a dynamic ip  you cannot bridge it at all
23:07 eadthem Cprossu  ping 4.2.2.1?
23:07 Cprossu I'm in the router
23:07 eadthem o nvm
23:07 Cprossu doing it though
23:07 Cprossu OH GOD
23:08 Cprossu PING 4.2.2.1 (4.2.2.1): 56 data bytes
23:08 Cprossu 64 bytes from 4.2.2.1: seq=0 ttl=56 time=750ms
23:08 Cprossu 64 bytes from 4.2.2.1: seq=1 ttl=56 time=630ms
23:08 Cprossu 64 bytes from 4.2.2.1: seq=2 ttl=56 time=680ms
23:08 Cprossu 64 bytes from 4.2.2.1: seq=3 ttl=56 time=730ms
23:08 Angy4 yey! world tour!
23:08 eadthem WTF
23:08 eadthem thats leval3
23:08 Cprossu yeah I am aware
23:08 Cprossu ok now hrmm
23:08 pegasus y u abuse level3
23:08 tonsofpcs ok, going home now
23:08 tonsofpcs bbiab
23:08 Angy4 traceroute -a ?
23:08 Cprossu hang on
23:09 pegasus ping 8.8.8.8 = google
23:09 eadthem theres got to be a bug   it msut be tagging on the extra 0 on accedent
23:09 eadthem realy?
23:09 speedrunnerG55 O_o
23:09 pegasus specifically google's open DNS server
23:09 pegasus primary
23:09 Angy4 it's level3 :)
23:10 eadthem ya  8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4  googles public dns
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23:10 Angy4 but delegated to google
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23:10 eadthem o so leval3 is letting google rebrand it
23:10 Cprossu hey tggmc if you are there call me
23:10 Cprossu or something
23:10 eadthem perhaps sending bad dns requests to a google serach engeing or something
23:10 pegasus level3 gave the IPs to google so google could take the abuse instead
23:10 eadthem and then lvl3 gets a refferal tip
23:10 pegasus 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 were never designed to be used by the public
23:10 eadthem ic
23:11 Cprossu yeah
23:11 pegasus 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 are
23:11 Cprossu so having a 8/10 second delay
23:11 Cprossu ughhhhhhhhhhh
23:11 Cprossu I know what I am doing first though
23:11 Angy4 use google is you agree to be profiled on your dns use
23:11 eadthem ya ive got 17 to 18 miliseconds response to leval3
23:12 Cprossu as it should be
23:12 pegasus Angy4: i'm not suggesting people use it for DNS, i'm suggesting people use it for a connectivity test
23:12 Cprossu giving 2 phone numbers a call hang on
23:12 Angy4 use opendns :)
23:12 eadthem 53 miliseconds to 8.8.8.8 and 4.4    so ile keep using 4.2.2.1  till google makes there servers faster
23:12 pegasus use whatever you like, but if you must ping, ping 8.8.8.8
23:12 Angy4 what's your ip that got a 750ms delay ?
23:13 ynos so.. anyone use mtr to see where it is actually slow?
23:13 ynos My traceroute  [v0.75]
23:13 ynos ftp.ynos.us (0.0.0.0)                                  Wed Jun 29 19:12:07 2011
23:13 ynos Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
23:13 ynos Packets               Pings
23:13 ynos Host                                Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
23:13 ynos 1. 65.183.181.4                      0.0%    30   15.2  15.5  14.7  16.5   0.4
23:13 ynos 2. 65.183.181.81                     0.0%    30   16.0  15.8  14.7  16.9   0.5
23:13 pegasus and 8.8.8.8 is multi-homed, so various people will get various pings
23:13 ynos 3. 204.232.90.189                    0.0%    29   20.8  38.1  19.2 214.9  46.2
23:13 ynos 4. 216.234.96.1                      0.0%    29   20.6  54.2  19.6 202.9  66.6
23:13 ynos 5. 4.53.74.53                        3.4%    29   21.4  22.9  19.6  64.8   9.1
23:13 ynos 6. 4.69.133.245                      0.0%    29   21.6  52.7  19.8 217.0  62.8
23:13 ynos 7. 4.69.133.242                      0.0%    29   25.7  26.5  25.3  30.9   1.0
23:13 ynos 8. 4.69.138.35                       0.0%    29   26.1  53.6  25.7 202.5  50.8
23:13 ynos 9. 4.2.2.1                           0.0%    29   26.9  26.8  25.8  28.4   0.5
23:13 eadthem pegasus well 4.2.2.1 is also iirc
23:14 Cprossu ynos we've worked out that 96.117.155.4 is the modem
23:14 Cprossu do some traces on your side
23:14 speedrunnerG55 O_o
23:14 * eadthem has nmap explore 96.117.155.4
23:14 pegasus 4.2.2.1/2 is a single level 3 server that cries for mercy last i heard
23:14 Cprossu I've had it be faster than cox's dedicateds
23:14 Angy4 Let me log into my looking glass
23:14 Cprossu *dedicateds
23:14 Cprossu at times
23:15 pegasus but the point is that it's not meant for poking by the public, and continuing to recommend its use for anything is just plain uncivil
23:15 speedrunnerG55 0_o
23:15 pegasus http://www.tummy.com/Community/Articles/famous-dns-server/
23:15 speedrunnerG55 I dont have traceroute installed
23:15 speedrunnerG55 No wonder i couldnt use it
23:16 ynos dont have traceroute?
23:16 ynos how does that happen?
23:16 speedrunnerG55 Idk
23:16 speedrunnerG55 Installed
23:16 Angy4 I see a nice loop from 7922 :)
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23:17 ynos looks good from here...
23:17 ynos My traceroute  [v0.75]
23:17 ynos ftp.ynos.us (0.0.0.0)                                   Wed Jun 29 19:17:00 2011
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23:17 ynos Packets               Pings
23:17 ynos Host                                 Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
23:17 ynos 1. 65.183.181.4                       0.0%    11   16.0  15.7  15.0  16.5   0.5
23:17 ynos 2. 65.183.181.81                      0.0%    11   16.0  15.9  15.2  16.5   0.4
23:17 ynos 3. 204.232.90.189                     0.0%    11   21.4  21.6  19.4  32.0   3.6
23:17 Angy4 my path is 3549->7922->7922->7922
23:17 ynos 4. 216.234.96.1                       0.0%    11   21.6  20.6  20.0  21.6   0.6
23:17 ynos 5. 66.208.233.61                      0.0%    11   28.4  28.8  28.1  29.5   0.4
23:17 Angy4 I think there is too much 7922 :)
23:17 ynos 6. 68.86.86.33                        0.0%    11   29.4  31.1  29.2  45.0   4.6
23:17 ynos 7. 68.86.90.110                       0.0%    11   42.4  44.0  42.4  46.5   1.2
23:17 ynos 8. 69.139.254.177                     0.0%    11   49.4  49.4  48.6  50.4   0.7
23:17 ynos 9. 69.139.240.118                     0.0%    11   50.0  49.3  48.2  51.2   0.9
23:17 ynos 10 is all drops, assuming the router doesnt like igmp
23:18 pegasus says it's multi-homed, so yeah, but still
23:18 Cprossu you should be able to ping it
23:18 Angy4 nor really
23:18 Angy4 that depend how the network is configured
23:19 eadthem i sware the next website that pops up a FORSEE questonare is going to get the responses they deservve
23:19 Cprossu I know right?
23:19 Cprossu lol
23:19 Cprossu I still have my feelings about stuff
23:20 Cprossu so I need to get in contact with someone who can pull out cables and plug a laptop in directly
23:20 eadthem you want to know what i think   i think this shitty forsee crap is the 1 thing most likely to make me never return busness to your site ever agan .
23:20 Cprossu then I can verify if it's the modem or something attached to it
23:20 Cprossu for real
23:20 Angy4 modem is dumb device, it won't answer ping
23:20 eadthem iirc i saw a tggsteve
23:21 eadthem recently
23:21 Cprossu oooh
23:21 Cprossu I has a telnet
23:21 eadthem hes alwase good for a cable swap
23:21 speedrunnerG55 Telnets cool
23:21 speedrunnerG55 But...old
23:22 Angy4 quite insecure :)
23:22 Angy4 can't ping 96.117.155.4, I'm locked around the distribution at comcast
23:22 Cprossu O.M.G\
23:23 speedrunnerG55 What
23:23 Cprossu ok ready for what the telnet login is supposed to be?
23:23 Angy4 toor? root?
23:23 Cprossu "mso",pw is "D0nt4g3tme"
23:23 speedrunnerG55 Lol
23:24 Cprossu didn't work
23:24 Cprossu they must have changed it
23:24 eadthem what i just read was that 4.2.2.* are infact unicast for the nerist DNS server
23:25 speedrunnerG55 They think they are l337 h4x0rz
23:25 ynos so... uhhh.. 96.117.155.4 doesnt have a reverse lookup either...
23:25 ynos kinda odd
23:26 Angy4 not really, why it would be if it's a customer ip?
23:26 ynos so comcast expects users to setup their own reverse?
23:27 ynos on their network?
23:27 Angy4 it needs a forward dns, not a reverse
23:27 ynos everything else has a reverse on their network, why would they make an exception?
23:27 ynos imo, only slackasses dont setup reverse.
23:28 Angy4 nope
23:28 ynos and comcast goes out of their way to be a pita, so why would they stop here?
23:28 Cprossu http://portforward.com/routergui/SMC/SMCD3G-CCR/Firewall_Options.htm
23:28 Cprossu that's how we get bridge mode
23:28 Cprossu wow
23:28 Cprossu convoluted nightmare
23:29 Angy4 unfortunatle, that's a mode that is here for ``legacy'' when you ask manufacturers
23:29 Angy4 they tend to stuck you with ``routers''
23:30 Cprossu disable firewall for True Static IP subnet only
23:30 ynos for 90+% of the users, it is for the better.. but for people who know wtf they are doing...
23:30 Cprossu Sidable Gateway Smart Packet Detection
23:30 Angy4 I love the names
23:30 Cprossu and then we should have it
23:30 Angy4 no reverse: 78.41.236.101
23:30 Cprossu it's more like Smart Packet Delay Mechanism
23:30 Angy4 that is a core router
23:31 Angy4 if it has to be smart, it induce a delay :)
23:31 Angy4 change the smartiness to -?
23:31 Cprossu lol
23:31 Angy4 it will jump into the futur
23:31 Angy4 average ping: -10ms
23:31 Cprossu no that's if we wrap the chasis in bacon
23:31 Angy4 true, I forgot that step
23:32 Cprossu we only get -1ms without proper bacon termination
23:32 Angy4 and if you manage not to loose the magic smoke when wrapping, you'll get even better inverse delays
23:32 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Eric Adler on Holiday Weekend Road Trip to TGG in GR
23:33 Cprossu Angy4 I can always send another LNE2PCI over
23:33 Cprossu then can put a bag over the top of it
23:33 Cprossu so when they put it in thumper they can catch the magic smoke in the bag
23:33 Angy4 I was thinking to send my burnt telsa, but I need it for warranty :(
23:33 Cprossu hrmm
23:34 Cprossu I wonder if they've done a coppermine P3 slot processor without heatsink yet?
23:34 Cprossu heh heh heh
23:34 Cprossu I have a dead 866 somewhere
23:34 Cprossu I just don't think it'll be as awesome as the network card was
23:35 Cprossu I'd have to prep them a slot though
23:35 Cprossu hehehehe
23:35 Cprossu ISA might be big enough to carry some current if I split the area in 2
23:35 Angy4 I happend to be on the stream for the video card
23:35 Angy4 wa fun
23:35 Cprossu tggmc ding
23:35 eadthem and you got another LNE2PCI in the mail to you as well  :p
23:35 Angy4 escpecially the magic smoke!
23:35 Cprossu Angy4: you mean the network card?
23:36 Angy4 yep
23:36 Angy4 My english goes bad when I'm tired
23:36 eadthem your lucky its only when your tyred
23:36 Cprossu lol what's funny is I have 2 LNE2PCI's here, kidwell had one (the one that is working), and tgg had one (that got blowed up)
23:36 eadthem there sending that one to ya
23:36 Cprossu yeah xD
23:37 Cprossu man I tell you
23:37 Cprossu nothing like a card that pulls an ip
23:37 Angy4 my oldest computer gear is my old desktop
23:37 Cprossu and won't send or recieve any data
23:37 Cprossu ^
23:37 eadthem ya so i changed to using att's DNS servers
23:37 Cprossu my oldest computer 'gear' is probably my Timex Sinclair
23:37 eadthem all the sudden now   i have no DNS service
23:37 Cprossu which I have never attempted booting
23:37 Angy4 mine is an ``old'' 2005-2006 box
23:38 Cprossu rofl old haha haahahaha hha h ah ahhaha ahahah
23:38 Angy4 (xeon 3.6, so not that old)
23:38 Angy4 it's old for me :)
23:38 SparkyProjects Cprossu, should i show them the slomo of your card ?
23:38 Cprossu I have a dual xeon 3.0 somewhere
23:38 Angy4 this one is dual or quad I don't remember
23:38 Angy4 it's stack somewhere in my office
23:39 Cprossu can you make the audio a little smoother on the slowdown, out of curiosity?
23:39 Angy4 never had time to do something with it
23:39 Cprossu because it had that mechanical sound to it iirc
23:40 SparkyProjects I'm still a newbie at editing, i thought it was echo
23:40 SparkyProjects Here it is anyway http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QalJOs6Uoc
23:40 SparkyProjects All i did was stretched the time in vegas
23:41 eadthem man i shuld of never messed with it
23:41 eadthem shuld of just kept level 3
23:42 wannabe1987 joined #thegeekgroup
23:42 wannabe1987 speedrunnerG55
23:42 speedrunnerG55 O_o
23:43 wannabe1987 boden said i was never banned...
23:43 wannabe1987 which is untrue
23:43 speedrunnerG55 O_o
23:43 wannabe1987 i'm banned but he said i can come back or something
23:43 eadthem howed you get banned?
23:43 wannabe1987 he said "you aren't banned.  if you were i would know" eadthem i don't know
23:44 wannabe1987 i was never told why i was banned.  i'm still ticked over that
23:44 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell BatSteve i'm good...i'm back...
23:44 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
23:44 wannabe1987 .cookie BatSteve-Away
23:44 eadthem possably they banned soemthing else  that happend to be in the same ip block
23:44 BotSteve Here you go, BatSteve-Away, I baked you a double chocolate cookie!
23:44 wannabe1987 .cookie BotSteve
23:44 BotSteve For me?  Thank you!  *om nom nom*
23:44 Seroster .BDSM BotSteve
23:44 wannabe1987 eadthem i don't think so.
23:44 Seroster Aww.
23:45 * speedrunnerG55 hugs wannabe1987
23:45 speedrunnerG55 WB
23:45 wannabe1987 awww thanks speedrunnerG55 :D
23:46 speedrunnerG55 It was intentional
23:46 Cprossu http://www.2shared.com/audio/6DRxWhY7/boom.html
23:46 speedrunnerG55 But i dont know why
23:46 Seroster Waitwhat
23:47 Cprossu ^ @ SparkyProjects
23:47 wannabe1987 speedrunnerG55 yeah....thats what i feel
23:47 speedrunnerG55 Cprossu: What is this?
23:48 wannabe1987 hi Cprossu
23:48 Cprossu yay!!!!
23:48 * Cprossu hugs wannabe1987
23:48 Cprossu so did everything work out?
23:48 Seroster Nope, but someone failed at banning =P
23:48 SparkyProjects Cprossu, i'll see if i can match that to the vid tomorrow
23:48 speedrunnerG55 What happened to it?
23:48 speedrunnerG55 It went boom
23:48 Seroster Or he just removed it in the night
23:49 speedrunnerG55 LOL
23:49 Cprossu SparkyProjects: I just guessed
23:49 speedrunnerG55 Thats the network card?
23:49 Cprossu so it may or may not be the right amount of noise at all
23:49 Cprossu yeah lol
23:49 Cprossu slowed down
23:49 speedrunnerG55 Lol nice
23:50 SparkyProjects Was that the actual sound or a boom from another source ?
23:50 Seroster I got an amplifier today! Yay!
23:50 Cprossu no that's the same boom
23:50 Cprossu slowed down but it's the actual boom
23:50 SparkyProjects OK, i'll gve it a go
23:50 Cprossu SparkyProjects does vegas have a function
23:50 Cprossu that slows things down AND lowers the pitch?
23:51 Cprossu similar to how a record player works?
23:51 Cprossu I know it must
23:51 eadthem worst case i know audacity has a good speed adjuster
23:51 speedrunnerG55 The nintendo 3ds does
23:51 Cprossu I did this with audacity
23:51 speedrunnerG55 Vegas must
23:51 eadthem corse its prob much easer to do it in vegas with the video
23:51 Cprossu it sounded pretty epic huh?
23:51 SparkyProjects Not sure, that was only my second time of slowing things down, the  first was a balloon pop for a granddaughter
23:51 Cprossu nah eadthem matching audio is still trivial
23:52 Cprossu but if he just reprocesses it
23:52 Cprossu it should work out well
23:52 Cprossu should be a 4 second fix
23:52 ynos what video is that ripped from?
23:52 speedrunnerG55 Cprossu: The nintendo 3ds can adjust speed and pitch with aac and mp3
23:52 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/physicsduck#p/u/1/J72lK01B2Ic
23:53 wannabe1987 Cprossu no, but boden just physically spoke to me and stated i am not banned, never was (?) and if i was, he would know....
23:53 wannabe1987 we'll see when i get back to k(p)zoo tomorrow night and see if i really *am* banned...i'm on a different network than normal
23:53 Seroster Eh
23:53 Cprossu yay
23:54 Cprossu man that smoke cloud was epic
23:54 Cprossu coming from that tiny chip
23:55 Seroster SparkyProjects, I need your make-it-work guidance, Sensei!
23:56 Seroster I've got to pull a bearing from a shaft.
23:56 Seroster I have no proper bearing pulling tools
23:57 wannabe1987 Ponko92
23:57 Seroster I can't put the shaft between the fangs of my vise and beating the shaft with a hamer since the armature is in the way
23:57 Seroster Suggestions?
23:57 Ponko92 yawohl wannabe1987
23:58 Seroster Cprossu I've seen more smoke come from smaller cards, mate!
23:58 SparkyProjects Seroster, have you got 2 pieces of steel, preferable angle
23:58 Seroster I might
23:59 wannabe1987 Ponko92 im back for good

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