Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-07-26

| Channels | #thegeekgroup index | Today | | Search | Google Search | Plain-Text | summary

All times shown according to UTC.

Time Nick Message
00:00 astro73|tgg IOT?
00:01 speed_linux SparkyProjects, ?
00:03 tonsofpcs inductive output tube
00:04 astro73|tgg sounds excessive
00:14 devast8a is now known as undercoverdev
00:19 tggproducerbill left #thegeekgroup
00:20 undercoverdev is now known as devast8a
00:28 Ponko joined #thegeekgroup
00:28 Ponko garrr
00:28 Ponko hmm
00:40 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:
00:40 BotSteve Captain's Blog 7-25-11 Kim Carson and Supply Sorting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyClhnPKWEc
00:43 Ponko left #thegeekgroup
00:50 Toastdude Bye
00:51 Toastdude left #thegeekgroup
00:57 astro73|tgg is now known as astro73|derrial
01:04 [Python] .
01:12 ajprog_laptop joined #thegeekgroup
01:16 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W00skR-OzxU&feature=feedu
01:16 Seroster "60 amp fuses"
01:16 Seroster xD
01:20 SparkyProjects Add a couple of zero's :P
01:20 Seroster Could probably pull a few thousand, yeah =P
01:21 Thermoelectric Wow...
01:21 Seroster At LEAST 10.000amps
01:21 masterofmonks Seroster: Old photy is channeling you.
01:21 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfYkpyIDlZI
01:21 Seroster Fuck you, masterofmonks
01:21 masterofmonks Watch the video.
01:21 SparkyProjects That beats the aluminium foil wrapped round a fuse, or the nails for fuses :P
01:21 Seroster That will be my standard answer for any message with both me and his name in it
01:21 Seroster Doesnt work on screw in fuses =P
01:22 tonsofpcs ?
01:22 masterofmonks Seroster photonic induction.
01:22 tonsofpcs what doesn't work on screw in fuses?
01:22 Seroster /ignore masterofmonks
01:22 Seroster tonsofpcs, alu foil?
01:22 masterofmonks +q seroster.
01:23 masterofmonks Anyway.
01:25 Seroster SparkyProjects, My uncle lived in his apartment for 16 years, one day he felt a strange smell, he traced it to his fusebox and found a screwdriver shaft in place of the fuse.
01:25 tonsofpcs you can't screw in al-foil?
01:26 Seroster That's a great reason to remove all your fuses and check them for... Foregin materials, just in case.
01:26 masterofmonks Or just use breakers.
01:26 SparkyProjects If you roll the foil without the fuse, you can make it fit a screw in :P
01:26 Seroster tonsofpcs, Doesnt work as good as on the stick in
01:27 Seroster Or you roll the foil around the fuse, as long as the tip of the fuse got contact with the end (or even the threads of the hplder)
01:28 Seroster Still, always a good idea to check fuses when you move into a new place, since people are idiots.
01:38 Hackbat left #thegeekgroup
01:39 Hackbat joined #thegeekgroup
01:40 SparkyProjects left #thegeekgroup
01:44 ajprog_laptop left #thegeekgroup
02:03 tonsofpcs seroster - one of these days imma check and test all of the breakers here.  i have an odd issue with the lamp in my bedroom ceiling fan that i cant explain
02:04 Seroster Oh?=
02:04 Seroster Btw, there is no time like the present
02:04 Seroster And how does the issue manifest?
02:04 tonsofpcs i dont have the proper tools here
02:04 masterofmonks "In GPS technology, the phrasing "COCOM Limits" is also used to refer to a limit placed to GPS tracking devices that should disable tracking when the device realizes to be moving faster than 1,000 knots (approximately 1,151 mph or 1,852 km/h) at an altitude higher than 60,000 ft (approximately 18,000 m). This was intended to avoid the use of GPS in ICBM-like applications."
02:04 tonsofpcs (broke my meter probes...)
02:04 Seroster Heh
02:04 Seroster How?
02:05 tonsofpcs so when the switch is on, sometimes it operates.  sometimes it doesnt.  more often, it runs at odd levels and blinks (audibly too)
02:05 exor674 randomly, how... directional are GPS satellites?
02:05 Seroster Oh
02:05 exor674 I assume they just spray out things downward towards earth?
02:05 Seroster Leak current
02:06 tonsofpcs exor - "down"
02:06 exor674 ofc, they're also quite a bit out there
02:07 exor674 aren't they? ( I am wondering if say... one could get a GPS lock out in space )
02:08 tonsofpcs Seroster: leak current? between where and where? It's an edison (A) lamp socket...
02:09 tonsofpcs different bulb doesn't change it
02:09 tonsofpcs (using actual bulbs with actual filaments, not that new fangled mercury filled flickery crap)
02:14 Seroster As in
02:14 Seroster A current being induced into the wire to the armature by nearby wires
02:15 Hydroelectric joined #thegeekgroup
02:15 Hydroelectric Hey everyone.
02:15 Seroster Hi there, mr evil twin of Thermo =)
02:15 Hydroelectric Lol.
02:16 Hydroelectric Is it just me or is the website down?
02:16 Seroster tonsofpcs, Those induced currents are rarely lethal, or even something you notice, but in some instances you can see a faint glow, or flickering
02:16 Seroster Or, wait... when the switch is ON it blinks?
02:17 Seroster Got any other outlets running on the same breaker? If yes, check them. Most likely the lamp switch is pooched, and the breakier is fine
02:17 Seroster I'll put my money on bad contacts or corroded connections
02:21 Hydroelectric http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200630583095#ht_839wt_1139 --> What should be arriving at my house in 5-6 days. :-)
02:21 Seroster Your arrow was pointing the wrong day =)
02:21 Seroster way*
02:21 Seroster Fuck it's late.
02:22 Hydroelectric Haha.
02:23 tonsofpcs when it's on
02:24 tggmc hey tonsofpcs
02:24 tonsofpcs Seroster: no, it just switches on the lamp
02:24 tonsofpcs hi tggmc
02:24 tonsofpcs Seroster: like i said, need new probes (or, ya know, a new $5 ratshack meter)
02:24 tggmc found the char gen for the dubner j5k
02:24 tonsofpcs ?
02:24 tonsofpcs i thought the 5k was a cg
02:25 tggmc it does graphics too
02:25 tggmc but I haven't found the right menu
02:25 tggmc this disk pulls up all the 'content creation' garbage
02:25 Seroster Anyhow. Sleepy time
02:25 tonsofpcs disk?!
02:25 [Python] .
02:25 tonsofpcs g'nite Seroster
02:25 Seroster tonsofpcs, I think your breaker is fine, but the lamp switch is doomed
02:25 tggmc 5 1/4 floppy
02:25 Seroster Good luck with it =)
02:26 tggmc tonsofpcs it's os is on floppies
02:26 tggmc so is it's 'extra fonts'
02:26 Seroster left #thegeekgroup
02:27 Hydroelectric For anyone with an Apple Inc. product (iPod Touch 3rd generation + 4th generation, iPhone 3GS + 4, iPad + iPad 2 Wifi or 3G) --> http://9to5mac.com/2011/07/22/apple-seeds-ios-5-beta-4/
02:28 tggmc so I am shutting down and leaving @ tonsofpcs
02:28 * wannabe1987 so tired
02:28 tggmc when will I see you at the lab wannabe1987? lol
02:29 tggmc or did I already and just missed it?
02:30 tonsofpcs g'nite
02:30 wannabe1987 you havne't seen me yet
02:30 tggmc ok just making sure
02:30 wannabe1987 maybe thursday if i can convince drew to stop by there
02:30 tggmc see you all later!
02:30 wannabe1987 night cprossu
02:31 Hydroelectric Night cprossu.
02:33 wannabe1987 hi Hydroelectric
02:33 Hydroelectric Hello.
02:33 Hydroelectric What's with the Sky cam?
02:35 Hydroelectric Don't worry, just my speakers being stupid again.
02:35 wannabe1987 o lol
02:37 tonsofpcs left #thegeekgroup
02:37 tonsofpcs joined #thegeekgroup
02:38 wannabe1987 i smell brownies.  wtf
02:39 wannabe1987 http://i.imgur.com/N0EGB.jpg?ref=nf  lol its even geeky
02:40 Hydroelectric Ok...
02:42 Hydroelectric You know I'm screwed when Task Manager becomes non-responsive.
02:42 wannabe1987 lol
02:43 Hydroelectric Everything has frozen except for mouse, keyboard and IRC. :-/
02:44 Hydroelectric Finally exploer.exe decided to work again. :-)
02:44 Hydroelectric explorer.exe*
02:46 wannabe1987 i hate that when it happens
02:47 lemming joined #thegeekgroup
02:47 lemming is now known as LemLap
02:48 Hydroelectric I know. I swapped my HDD to another pc (Dell to Acer) and it doesn't register the new hardware. So Windows says it's unactivated when it is, Windows doesn't want to download updates, but it still does. Dam you Microsoft.
02:48 exor674 exploder.exe
02:48 Hydroelectric exor674 Exactly.
02:48 LemLap Hydroelectric, swapping the hardware is the reason it says it's not activated
02:49 LemLap because you have an OEM license
02:49 LemLap i.e. non-transferrable
02:49 wannabe1987 exor674 LOL
02:51 Hydroelectric @LemLap I caught on to that after running diagnostics. I also have a tally of how many times this computer has got the BSOD. :-)
02:55 * Hydroelectric is hungry. Time for lunch.
02:57 wannabe1987 LUNCH?!
02:57 wannabe1987 where are you?
02:58 LemLap it's lunch time here
02:58 wannabe1987 its 11pm here
02:58 LemLap on my lunch break at work atm
02:58 wannabe1987 thats cool
02:58 wannabe1987 i'm doing dinners blog post
02:59 exor674 Hydroelectric's in AU I think
02:59 exor674 according to their IP
03:00 wannabe1987 her face just fell off
03:00 pegasus left #thegeekgroup
03:01 wannabe1987 so, LemLap, Hydroelectric, whats for lunch?
03:03 pegasus joined #thegeekgroup
03:05 TinyKitty is now known as MachoCat
03:06 TS-Test joined #thegeekgroup
03:08 TS-Test left #thegeekgroup
03:08 wannabe1987 http://phoodinyoface.blogspot.com/2011/07/chicken-alfredo-pizza.html
03:11 Druidic_rifleman Film making is a bitch
03:11 crohakon joined #thegeekgroup
03:12 Druidic_rifleman I was doing product vids for a local army surplus store
03:12 Hackbat lol
03:12 Hackbat http://hackaday.com/2011/07/25/ignored-disabled-man-builds-his-own-damn-elevator/
03:15 BatSteve-Away is now known as BatSteve
03:15 BatSteve exor674: still awake?
03:15 wannabe1987 BatSteve: http://phoodinyoface.blogspot.com/2011/07/chicken-alfredo-pizza.html  was dinner
03:16 BatSteve did you take those pictures?
03:16 BatSteve or just follow the recipe?
03:16 Hydroelectric @wannabe1987 Grilled cheese on toast and soup. :-)
03:16 wannabe1987 i made UP the recipe and yes i take all my own pictures AS i'm making my food
03:16 Hydroelectric @Hackbat, I read that article about 1hr ago.
03:17 wannabe1987 Hackbat thats awesome
03:17 Druidic_rifleman looks very edible
03:17 wannabe1987 Druidic_rifleman it was extremely edible
03:17 BatSteve wannabe1987: rock and roll!  congratulations!
03:17 Druidic_rifleman sooooo
03:17 Druidic_rifleman .minecraft is back up
03:17 BotSteve The 'official' TGG minecraft server address is: gamerxreviews.net **** The server may or may not be down right now.  Try it and let us know.
03:17 wannabe1987 thanks BatSteve
03:18 wannabe1987 however, it was exhausting.  it was either that or the VBS that was exhausting :P
03:18 exor674 BatSteve: I am awake :P
03:19 BatSteve BotSteve: tell exor674 that I'm pretty sure that there's nothing preventing you from locking on to a GPS .. never mind
03:19 BotSteve BatSteve: I'll pass that on when exor674 is around.
03:19 BatSteve exor674: did you figure out the answer to your GPS question?
03:19 exor674 hah
03:19 BotSteve exor674: I have the following messages for you:
03:19 BotSteve At 03:19Z, BatSteve asked me to tell exor674 that I'm pretty sure that there's nothing preventing you from locking on to a GPS .. never mind
03:19 exor674 heh nope, but I think that's enough of an answer
03:20 BatSteve well, no, there was a bit more
03:20 BatSteve As I understand it you can receive the signal from the satellite even out in space
03:20 BatSteve But there's nothing to map that signal to
03:20 BatSteve Because latitude and longitude coordinates are relative to the earth itself
03:21 exor674 you mean you can recieve the signal on the other side of the sattelits or in LEO
03:22 BatSteve I have no idea how the antenna system works, so maybe you can or maybe you can't get a signal.  But assuming you could, the value of the signal for determining your position would be minimal, because you'd have no frame of reference
03:22 exor674 ( I wonder if you can recieve it on the other side of the sattelites, if it's possible to get a reciever that throws away the other point )
03:22 BatSteve THAT I don't know.
03:23 BatSteve But it'd be interesting to find out.
03:23 exor674 cause, as I understand it, GPS gives you two points
03:23 exor674 one on earth, one out in space.  since you are (most likely) not out in space....
03:24 BatSteve assuming you only have three satellites, yeah, you get two points
03:24 BatSteve But if you add more satellites, you can remove that false point
03:25 * exor674 nods
03:25 wannabe1987 HI!  *waves* i'm going to bed now
03:25 BatSteve night wannabe1987!
03:25 * exor674 tucks wannabe1987 in <3
03:25 wannabe1987 night BatSteve, speed_linux, exor674
03:25 wannabe1987 awww thanks dre
03:25 BatSteve however, exor674, in my experience at least in the united states, you can almost always see four or five satellites at any given time.  Of course I'm usually in a plane...so there's that.
03:27 * exor674 nods
03:28 Hydroelectric I'm back. Mmmmmmmmm, luch was dam good. :-)
03:28 Hydroelectric lunch*
03:28 LemLap left #thegeekgroup
03:29 Hydroelectric http://hackaday.com/2011/07/14/did-microsoft-steal-the-kinect/
03:29 BatSteve BotSteve: did microsoft steal the kinect?
03:29 BatSteve drat
03:29 BatSteve note to /me, implement "did"
03:30 ajprog_laptop joined #thegeekgroup
03:31 Hydroelectric Haha.
03:32 torpid left #thegeekgroup
03:32 egrsteve joined #thegeekgroup
03:53 egrsteve .seen cprossu_netbook
03:53 BotSteve egrsteve: I last saw cprossu_netbook 23.47 hours ago at 2011-07-25 04:25:50 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:53:44 UTC
03:54 BatSteve is now known as BatSteve-Away
03:54 LinuxH4x0r joined #thegeekgroup
04:00 speed_linux oh night wannabe1987
04:06 Druidic_rifleman left #thegeekgroup
04:06 eadthem left #thegeekgroup
04:06 egrsteve left #thegeekgroup
04:17 Hydroelectric left #thegeekgroup
04:24 LemLap joined #thegeekgroup
04:41 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: MattG on Grants: Aspiring Science Theme Writers
04:42 speed_linux thank you BotSteve
04:42 BotSteve You're welcome, speed_linux
04:46 * exor674 is going to go curl up in bed under the thinnest cover she owns and pass out
04:47 exor674 night all
04:47 speed_linux good night exor674
04:55 ajprog_laptop left #thegeekgroup
05:03 crohakon left #thegeekgroup
05:17 crohakon joined #thegeekgroup
05:18 LemLap left #thegeekgroup
05:19 Hydroelectric joined #thegeekgroup
05:19 Hydroelectric Back everyone.
05:20 Hydroelectric Does anyone know anything about Deployment Servers; primarily Windows related?
05:27 [Python] left #thegeekgroup
05:32 torpid joined #thegeekgroup
05:33 speed_linux hi Hydroelectric
05:33 Hydroelectric Hello.
05:34 speed_linux hi torpid
05:34 speed_linux http://images.4chan.org/sci/src/1311647057150.jpg
05:38 LemLap joined #thegeekgroup
05:40 Hydroelectric left #thegeekgroup
05:50 Hydroelectric joined #thegeekgroup
05:50 Hydroelectric Yay, so far I have successfully created an Autounattend.xml answer file which automatically installs Windows for me without me having to do anything. Now I just need to somehow work out how to do that over a network. :-/
05:59 Katemonster left #thegeekgroup
06:00 speed_linux cool
06:23 asnopus_ joined #thegeekgroup
06:32 Hydroelectric left #thegeekgroup
06:41 dr_jkl .
07:08 MachoCat http://i.imgur.com/GP1ab.jpg
07:23 speed_linux left #thegeekgroup
07:34 LemLap left #thegeekgroup
08:43 asnopus_ left #thegeekgroup
08:44 asnopus_ joined #thegeekgroup
08:44 asnopus_ left #thegeekgroup
08:59 Sasha-iPhone joined #thegeekgroup
09:05 Sasha-iPhone left #thegeekgroup
09:18 Italic joined #thegeekgroup
09:18 Italic is now known as Guest66002
09:18 LemLap joined #thegeekgroup
09:21 Guest66002 left #thegeekgroup
09:24 LinuxH4x0r left #thegeekgroup
10:07 Hackbat left #thegeekgroup
10:19 LemLap left #thegeekgroup
10:47 asnopus_ joined #thegeekgroup
10:48 Italic_ joined #thegeekgroup
11:36 _Italic_ joined #thegeekgroup
11:43 _Italic_ left #thegeekgroup
11:43 Italic_ left #thegeekgroup
11:52 ynos|away is now known as yNos
11:53 yNos g'mornin/evenin/aftrnoon everyone
12:03 yNos Wanted: LN2 dewar - Reason: icecream
12:04 yNos a coworker made some cryo-icecream and brought it in. sooooo smooothe
12:14 MadManMarkAu BotSteve, ask CaptainBoden if he's ever thought about using RFID tags for tool/item tracking. He works for a barcoding/RFID company and is willing to work on a tracking solution in his spare time, able to integrate with your existing access card system. Or, try the company's ready-made solution, http://www.existco.com.au/Products.aspx?MID=64&amp;PID=761
12:14 BotSteve MadManMarkAu: I'll pass that on when CaptainBoden is around.
12:15 Druidic_Rifleman joined #thegeekgroup
12:24 Vladdeh left #thegeekgroup
12:24 Vladdeh joined #thegeekgroup
12:33 CaptainBoden I'd *love* an RFID tracking system with barcodes for our tools and such. We just can't begin to afford one.
12:33 BotSteve CaptainBoden: I have the following messages for you:
12:33 BotSteve At 12:14Z, MadManMarkAu asked me to ask CaptainBoden if he's ever thought about using RFID tags for tool/item tracking. He works for a barcoding/RFID company and is willing to work on a tracking solution in his spare time, able to integrate with your existing access card system. Or, try the company's ready-made solution, http://www.existco.com.au/Products.aspx?MID=64&amp;PID=761
12:33 CaptainBoden yeah yeah yeah I know
12:34 MadManMarkAu heh
12:35 MadManMarkAu I'll check out our suppliers and find the cheapest RFID tags/readers. I can do the software (my own solution, won't be a company solution, done in my spare time) for free.
12:35 MadManMarkAu I'll let you know what I find out.
12:37 Druidic_Rifleman wpuld make batmans jobeasyer
12:37 Druidic_Rifleman ould
12:37 MadManMarkAu *would
12:37 Druidic_Rifleman grrr would
12:37 MadManMarkAu *job wasier
12:37 MadManMarkAu etc..
12:37 MadManMarkAu :P
12:38 MadManMarkAu Dammit
12:38 MadManMarkAu I messed up now
12:40 kristopher joined #thegeekgroup
12:41 kristopher hola
12:41 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Radioactive on So a thinwall 1B85 Geiger tube survives <760 inches of mercury
12:48 Druidic_Rifleman PSSTDoes posting a lik toa creativecomonsfile where one down loaded itfro with the authorsname and ifocount asgiving  credit?
12:48 Druidic_Rifleman link*
12:48 kristopher what?
12:50 Druidic_Rifleman Iamn working on some thing and needed gun fire ifound a creative coos licence and it has an atibution3.0 licence
12:50 Thermoelectric I think about so much that I can't remember what I was thinking about.
12:55 asnopus_ left #thegeekgroup
13:26 devast8a is now known as devast8a|away
14:03 producerbill joined #thegeekgroup
14:03 producerbill I wonder is anyone watch irc at this time of day?
14:04 producerbill guess not
14:30 producerbill left #thegeekgroup
14:56 CaptainBoden http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FgMajMl2qI
15:06 kristopher left #thegeekgroup
15:14 SparkyProjects joined #thegeekgroup
15:15 SparkyProjects I love how Dave and the other guy have their hands over their ears :D
15:18 [Python] joined #thegeekgroup
15:19 Zozo joined #thegeekgroup
15:19 Guardianzozo left #thegeekgroup
15:22 xanhs joined #thegeekgroup
15:31 ajprog_laptop joined #thegeekgroup
15:33 babernethy joined #thegeekgroup
15:33 babernethy left #thegeekgroup
15:36 xanhs hey guys
15:36 tonsofpcs hi
15:39 Guardianzozo joined #thegeekgroup
15:39 Zozo left #thegeekgroup
15:41 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by TheGeekGroup.  New videos:
15:41 BotSteve Kim Carson Meets Thumper http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FgMajMl2qI
15:42 [Python] .cookie Botsteve
15:42 BotSteve For me?  Thank you!  *om nom nom*
15:43 [Python] .insult BotSteve
15:43 BotSteve Hey, [Python], I would have been your father, but the other guy had exact change.
15:43 [Python] left #thegeekgroup
15:46 Seroster joined #thegeekgroup
15:46 BotSteve Seroster's here.  Hide yo' kids.  Hide yo' wife.
15:46 Seroster Arr!
15:56 ajprog_laptop left #thegeekgroup
16:00 Zozo joined #thegeekgroup
16:00 Guardianzozo left #thegeekgroup
16:01 SparkyProjects hi
16:03 Seroster Hello there SparkyProjects
16:04 Seroster Yesterday I saw a toploaded washing machine in the garbage
16:04 Seroster Induction motor
16:04 Seroster Thought about grabbing the motor, but the bolts were too akward
16:05 SparkyProjects What would have been the plan if you had got it off ?
16:05 Seroster I dunno
16:10 Guardianzozo joined #thegeekgroup
16:10 Zozo left #thegeekgroup
16:15 Seroster Hm
16:15 Seroster One turn of wire around the flyback core
16:15 Seroster The connections on the PCB are labeled + and -
16:15 Seroster Anyone know what it does?
16:16 Seroster Pretty hardcore wire, at least a few kv
16:16 SparkyProjects Some flybacks include a diode
16:16 [Python] joined #thegeekgroup
16:17 Seroster Oh?
16:18 Seroster Whoa
16:18 Seroster This rectifyer
16:18 Seroster Is kick ASS
16:18 Seroster Big germanium diodes
16:18 Seroster All pointing straight up in the air
16:18 Seroster Connected with wires, insulated with tape
16:19 Seroster Long ends means they will be easy to reuse for another project
16:19 SparkyProjects This ine has several diodes
16:19 SparkyProjects http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_W2bhHEnYtpY/SaJPEYY7Y8I/AAAAAAAAABE/zaohraQnoYQ/s400/flyback_pinout.gif
16:20 SparkyProjects They supply things like the focus circuit, essentially a HV power supply
16:21 Seroster hm
16:21 SparkyProjects Another http://freecircuitdiagram.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/flyback.gif
16:27 SparkyProjects If you watched my projector autopsy you will have seen a triple flyback
16:27 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cursq7-6sGY
16:27 SparkyProjects Take a look at 13:45
16:31 * wannabe1987 is back
16:37 SparkyProjects hi :)
16:38 Vladdeh left #thegeekgroup
16:41 Seroster A big foil capacitor
16:41 Seroster With a piece of heat shrink tube over the body of the cap
16:41 Seroster WTF
16:41 Seroster What could that possibly do?
16:45 Guardianzozo left #thegeekgroup
16:45 Guardianzozo joined #thegeekgroup
16:46 Vladdeh joined #thegeekgroup
16:47 SparkyProjects Extra insulation, especially in hv circuits.
16:47 SparkyProjects Remember too that the plates of a capacitor in close proximity to something else may affect the other item through capacitance,the heatshrink may ensure extra spacing
16:47 [Python] .
16:49 wannabe1987 ..
16:49 SparkyProjects ...
16:50 [Python] ....
16:50 [Python] is now known as [Python]------
16:50 [Python]------ ....
16:51 SparkyProjects Are we bored yet ? :D
16:51 [Python]------ .....
16:51 Zozo joined #thegeekgroup
16:51 [Python]------ is now known as [Python]
16:51 [Python] Hello
16:51 Guardianzozo left #thegeekgroup
17:08 mashpriborintorg joined #thegeekgroup
17:09 mashpriborintorg hi all
17:10 mashpriborintorg tggmc: hearing the Captain's voice is like holy water for us, could you please switch on the MDH sound
17:11 producerbill joined #thegeekgroup
17:20 [Python] .---------------------------------.
17:20 [Python] |  .---------------------------.  |
17:20 [Python] |[]|                           |[]|
17:20 [Python] |  |                           |  |
17:20 [Python] |  |                           |  |
17:20 [Python] |  |                           |  |
17:20 [Python] |  |                           |  |
17:20 [Python] |  |                           |  |
17:20 [Python] |  |                           |  |
17:20 [Python] |  |                           |  |
17:20 [Python] |  |                           |  |
17:20 [Python] |  `---------------------------'  |
17:21 [Python] |      __________________ _____   |
17:21 [Python] |     |   ___            |     |  |
17:21 [Python] |     |  |   |           |     |  |
17:21 [Python] |     |  |   |           |     |  |
17:21 [Python] |     |  |   |           |     |  |
17:21 [Python] |     |  |___|           |     |  |
17:21 [Python] \_____|__________________|_____|__|
17:21 SparkyProjects spam
17:21 [Python] awww ...
17:22 [Python] left #thegeekgroup
17:22 [Python] joined #thegeekgroup
17:30 Seroster What is that program called... the one with the sweet 16 parties with brats whos parents are fucking millionaires, the program we all love to hate... Anyone?
17:30 Seroster I want to try out some new curses =P
17:36 producerbill left #thegeekgroup
17:37 [Python] Welcome to Adventure!!  Would you like instructions?
17:43 wannabe1987 hm  its my parents 26th wedding anniv
17:46 yNos anyone here listen to snap judgement?
17:49 Serostern joined #thegeekgroup
17:51 [Python] BotSteve Should I stop asking you questions ?
17:51 BotSteve Reply hazy, try again later
17:52 [Python] BotSteve Should I stop asking you questions ?
17:52 BotSteve Maybe
17:52 [Python] left #thegeekgroup
17:53 Seroster left #thegeekgroup
17:58 [Python] joined #thegeekgroup
18:04 devast8a|away left #thegeekgroup
18:15 LinuxH4x0r joined #thegeekgroup
18:21 mashpriborintorg left #thegeekgroup
18:26 Serostern wannabe1987, 26th anniversary?
18:27 Serostern Have you got older siblings?
18:42 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Bill Jones on So a thinwall 1B85 Geiger tube survives <760 inches of mercury
18:44 mashpriborintorg joined #thegeekgroup
18:56 xanhs left #thegeekgroup
19:09 MachoCat left #thegeekgroup
19:18 LinuxH4x0r left #thegeekgroup
19:19 Hackbat joined #thegeekgroup
19:28 tonsofpcs yNos: sometimes.
19:29 tonsofpcs yNos: why?
19:30 Serostern Heard any good sodium jokes lately?
19:30 Serostern Na
19:30 Serostern is now known as Seroster
19:30 mashpriborintorg left #thegeekgroup
19:31 * tonsofpcs pushes Seroster into water
19:31 Seroster Its fucking GREAT =D
19:31 tonsofpcs (hey, if Na keeps coming out of your mouth, it'll look awesome :-p)
19:32 yNos tonsofpcs: have been listening at snapjudgement.org
19:32 yNos was going to reccomend that people give it a listen... but then shit hit the fan here.
19:33 yNos back to the grind, later everyone
19:33 yNos is now known as yNos|away
19:35 [Python] left #thegeekgroup
19:36 * tonsofpcs had a power outage yesterday, visit by the power company today... storms been coming and going....
19:41 Vladdeh left #thegeekgroup
19:42 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Radioactive on So a thinwall 1B85 Geiger tube survives <760 inches of mercury.....jaaz95 on I got my pickle stuck in a bottle.
19:48 Vladdeh joined #thegeekgroup
19:57 Zozo left #thegeekgroup
19:57 Guardianzozo joined #thegeekgroup
20:27 scruffff4 joined #thegeekgroup
20:28 scruffff4 left #thegeekgroup
20:30 Noise_Marine left #thegeekgroup
20:35 angy joined #thegeekgroup
20:35 angy hi there
20:44 MoxieMike joined #thegeekgroup
20:45 lwq1996 joined #thegeekgroup
20:46 lwq1996 hia
20:46 angy hi lwq1996
20:47 lwq1996 do you know what flash is...
20:49 masterofmonks lwq1996: it depends on the useage of the word
20:50 angy can be a lot of things
20:51 lwq1996 flash as in a touch explosive
20:52 masterofmonks You mean a contact explosive.
20:52 masterofmonks And don't mess around with those, they are seriously bad.
20:54 speedrunnerG55 joined #thegeekgroup
20:54 Noise_Marine joined #thegeekgroup
20:55 speedrunnerG55 Hi everyone
20:55 angy hi speed
20:55 lwq1996 hi speed
20:55 speedrunnerG55 :)
20:59 Zozo joined #thegeekgroup
20:59 Guardianzozo left #thegeekgroup
21:01 torpid left #thegeekgroup
21:04 |RED| joined #thegeekgroup
21:04 |RED| Hey Internet. <3 Long time no chat.
21:04 lwq1996 HIA RED
21:05 lwq1996 YES LONG TIME NO SEE
21:05 Hackbat Oh, I am sad now
21:06 speedrunnerG55 Omg!!!
21:06 speedrunnerG55 Its red :)
21:07 speedrunnerG55 Hackbat why are you sad?
21:07 Hackbat I was going to buy a Geekgroup card but it seems I'm 8 buck short
21:08 Hackbat Guess It'll have to wait
21:08 lwq1996 lol
21:09 speedrunnerG55 :/
21:09 speedrunnerG55 How mutch is it?
21:09 Lanther joined #thegeekgroup
21:09 lwq1996 hia lantheer
21:11 Hackbat 20 bucks
21:11 Hackbat I have 12 bucks on my cash card
21:11 speedrunnerG55 Ohh.
21:11 Hackbat I'll have to wait until I reload it
21:12 * speedrunnerG55 considers buying a card. Would it do me anny good if i lived in NJ and cant use it locally
21:12 angy you'll soon have nice things to do with it ;)
21:16 * speedrunnerG55 pokes |RED|
21:16 speedrunnerG55 Your back :3
21:17 * exor674 hugs |RED|
21:17 wannabe1987 Seroster no, i'm the oldest at 24
21:17 * wannabe1987 just woke up from a 3 hour nap :D
21:18 * |RED| hugs exor674 and speedrunnerG55
21:18 wannabe1987 hi red
21:18 lwq1996 :(
21:19 torpid joined #thegeekgroup
21:19 |RED| hey.
21:19 * |RED| hugs lwq1996 too
21:19 lwq1996 :D
21:19 |RED| ;)
21:20 lwq1996 ik two reds know...i know "the" red and i now call my sister red because she died her hair
21:22 egrsteve joined #thegeekgroup
21:23 torpid left #thegeekgroup
21:23 wannabe1987 hi egrsteve
21:23 |RED| lol lwq1996
21:23 lwq1996 :D
21:24 lwq1996 theres no one that can be the original red tho
21:24 egrsteve hello
21:25 lwq1996 --pokes wannabe--
21:25 wannabe1987 ah
21:25 wannabe1987 i've been poked
21:25 * wannabe1987 bites lee
21:25 lwq1996 D:< bad girl
21:25 wannabe1987 i just woke up ... don't poke me!
21:26 lwq1996 well i didnt know that i thought you've been up since 1or something
21:26 wannabe1987 nope.  i said "3 hour nap"
21:26 egrsteve hi red
21:26 lwq1996 oh
21:26 angy hi steve
21:26 egrsteve hello
21:26 * lwq1996 is making hard boild eggs
21:27 speedrunnerG55 :)
21:28 egrsteve so whats new in the world sense saturday evening?
21:29 Vladdeh left #thegeekgroup
21:30 angy I've once again lost my pen (:
21:31 lwq1996 lol
21:31 angy that's what new, with my last article nearly out of the review process
21:32 [Python] joined #thegeekgroup
21:32 egrsteve I hate when I lose pens too
21:33 angy I have like 10,000 on my desk, but only one I like using
21:33 Vladdeh joined #thegeekgroup
21:34 egrsteve I know that feeling
21:34 lwq1996 i have 5 multi-tool but i have a favorit
21:36 angy I want my pen back!
21:38 MoxieMike_______ joined #thegeekgroup
21:38 Seroster Ey SparkyProjects?
21:38 SparkyProjects Wassup ?
21:38 Seroster When you make a flyback driver
21:38 Seroster And use a transistor to make an ultra high frequanzy
21:38 Seroster Can't you use 50hz?
21:39 Katemonster joined #thegeekgroup
21:40 * angy found a title to his paper, great, one thing less to do
21:40 MoxieMike left #thegeekgroup
21:40 Katemonster hey angy
21:40 SparkyProjects Not really
21:40 SparkyProjects I've seen designs that have a heavy coil on the collector of the transistor to positive, and the base goes through a feedback coil, no capacitior needed.
21:41 Seroster Err
21:41 Seroster No capacitor
21:41 Seroster The one I used before is two coils around the ferrite core
21:41 Seroster But I forgot the actual schematic
21:42 SparkyProjects Basically a capacitor provides a bi of delay, so without the capacitor it will be high freq, but you must have a transistor capable of switching at that speed, and expect a lot of heat
21:42 speedrunnerG55 left #thegeekgroup
21:42 Seroster Hm
21:42 Seroster Yeah, the transistor from the tv the flyback came from usually works
21:42 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Quakefire on I got my pickle stuck in a bottle.
21:44 SparkyProjects Take a look at some of these circuits
21:44 SparkyProjects http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=transformer+oscillator+circuit&amp;hl=en&amp;biw=1050&amp;bih=899&amp;prmd=ivns&amp;source=lnms&amp;tbm=isch&amp;ei=1DQvTvKFKcal8QO506Bn&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=mode_link&amp;ct=mode&amp;cd=2&amp;sqi=2&amp;ved=0CCIQ_AUoAQ
21:44 |RED| left #thegeekgroup
21:44 SparkyProjects Most appear to have a capacitor
21:44 Seroster This one I used http://www.ikkaro.com/files/fabricar-flyback-driver.jpg
21:45 SparkyProjects yep, that's the ine (or similar) that i was looking for
21:47 SparkyProjects heh, the guy has the switch in the wrong place, when it's turned off the resistors still have power :P
21:47 speedrunnerG55 joined #thegeekgroup
21:47 Seroster lol
21:47 speedrunnerG55 Hi
21:48 Seroster Hi speedrunnerG55
21:48 Seroster We were just laughing at you when you joined ?)
21:48 speedrunnerG55 Why...
21:48 Katemonster cuz you're a funny guy.
21:48 Seroster Because we all secretly laugh about you behind your back
21:49 Seroster Lies, Katemonster!
21:49 speedrunnerG55 D:
21:49 Katemonster ...funny lookin'...
21:49 Katemonster :p
21:49 Katemonster hi speed
21:49 speedrunnerG55 Since when was i funny.
21:49 speedrunnerG55 Hi Katemonster
21:50 Katemonster you've always been funny.  just not on purpose.
21:50 Seroster .log
21:50 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
21:50 Seroster See, we all love you speedrunnerG55
21:52 jeffrey_ joined #thegeekgroup
21:52 speedrunnerG55 What am i looking for?
21:52 lwq1996 left #thegeekgroup
21:53 Katemonster hope.
21:53 * angy foresee a very good news for tag website
21:53 wannabe1987 hi speedrunnerG55
21:55 angy so, how do the tell thing on that bot works
21:55 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell angy this is how you do it
21:55 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when angy is around.
21:56 angy BotSteve: tell wannabe1987 thanks!
21:56 BotSteve angy: I'll pass that on when wannabe1987 is around.
21:56 BotSteve angy: I have the following messages for you:
21:56 BotSteve At 21:55Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell angy this is how you do it
21:56 torpid joined #thegeekgroup
21:56 wannabe1987 p
21:56 BotSteve wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
21:56 angy Yey!
21:56 BotSteve At 21:56Z, angy asked me to tell wannabe1987 thanks!
21:56 wannabe1987 lol
21:56 Katemonster botsteve: tell botsteve hi
21:56 BotSteve Sorry, I'm supposed to ignore any voices I hear in my head.
21:56 wannabe1987 win
21:56 Katemonster botsteve: tell katemonster hi
21:56 speedrunnerG55 Hi wannabe
21:56 BotSteve You can tell yourself that.
21:56 angy BotSteve: tell dr_jkl I may have a solution for the website, a nice warm solution
21:56 BotSteve angy: I'll pass that on when dr_jkl is around.
21:57 angy greaaaaat I like it already
21:57 speedrunnerG55 Lol
21:57 Katemonster .tfw 99004
21:57 BotSteve 73�F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Cheney, WA!  'IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME'
21:57 speedrunnerG55 BotSteve: Tell BotSteve hi BotSteve
21:57 BotSteve Sorry, I'm supposed to ignore any voices I hear in my head.
21:57 speedrunnerG55 :D
21:57 angy .tfw 98117
21:57 BotSteve 63�F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Seattle, WA!  'An Eskimo would beat your ass to be here'
21:58 angy can that bot convert fahrenheit to celsius? I still have a small hard time with them
21:58 wannabe1987 .c 63f to c
21:58 BotSteve 17.2222222 degrees Celsius
21:58 wannabe1987 its ok i have issues with c
21:59 angy I have a *very* hard time with inches/foot
21:59 wannabe1987 .c 17c to f
21:59 BotSteve 62.6 degrees Fahrenheit
21:59 wannabe1987 lol
21:59 speedrunnerG55 .c c/1Mhz
21:59 BotSteve 299.792458 meters
21:59 speedrunnerG55 Wow
21:59 angy I froze for like 5 minutes trying to buy a pole for my shades
22:00 speedrunnerG55 .c 2meters * c
22:00 BotSteve 599 584 916 m^(2) / s
22:00 speedrunnerG55 .c 2m*c
22:00 BotSteve 599 584 916 m^(2) / s
22:01 angy window is 4 feet and the pole was 70 inches, it took me close to a millennium to convert back and forth
22:01 speedrunnerG55 599mhz?
22:01 angy that's my idle running frequency (:
22:01 speedrunnerG55 ...?
22:02 angy very bad joke, I know
22:02 arran-g joined #thegeekgroup
22:02 Katemonster angy, it's best just to use a calculator.  trying to convert US measurements in your head causes brain cancer.
22:02 angy good to know
22:03 angy I did not even thought of using my calculator
22:03 SparkyProjects Not if you were brought up on them
22:04 angy that would be fun even if native users have hard time with them
22:04 SparkyProjects If you can remember the main numbers, the rest should be easy
22:04 SparkyProjects Like if you remember that 72 inches is 6 feet, then 70 inches must be 2 inches under 6 feet, so that's 5'10"
22:05 angy did I say that I was discalculic? that's when it became fun
22:05 SparkyProjects Or carry a tape measure :)
22:05 angy I'll do the latter
22:06 Katemonster lol
22:06 Katemonster angy: http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson1103.html
22:06 angy hahaha
22:07 SparkyProjects If i go to a homecentre and have forgotten my tape, i'll 'borrow' one from the display (near the tools), and put it back when finished :D
22:07 angy I finished, when I came back from frozen, to decide that it was big enough, and bought it
22:10 angy the thing that was the most funny for me was when I was visiting Boston General (hospital) and I saw a MD weighting someone in pound, then calculate the medication in milligrams
22:10 * jeffrey_ successfully made deviled eggs
22:10 jeffrey_ fuck
22:11 Katemonster don't fuck the eggs!
22:11 angy jeffrey_: you fuck eggs? so wrong!
22:11 jeffrey_ no my nick switched
22:11 Katemonster lol
22:11 angy way less funny than Katemonster and me :)
22:12 Katemonster angy: that's how it's normally done here.  medication is always in mg.  although i recently read some medical news article from the UK that was referring to peoples' weight in stones.  that's what we need to use here, stones.
22:13 Katemonster weigh people in stones and measure their height in feet just to fuck with the rest of the world.
22:13 angy I have a lot of stone in my yard :)
22:14 Katemonster honestly, the US/old British measurement system is stupid and should be done away with.  there is one thing however that it is still better for
22:14 jeffrey_ is now known as lwq1996
22:21 angy Yey! Found back my lost pen
22:21 Katemonster the inch is better for small arms ammunition, because "fifty cal" sounds more intimidating than 12.7mm
22:21 Katemonster (f'ing pc)
22:22 angy I don't own firearms and don't plan to (:
22:22 angy but you're right
22:22 Katemonster you're better off without the king's system
22:23 NeWtoz I sometimes measure things in cubits
22:25 Seroster Screw imperial
22:26 Seroster And Katemonster, 50cal sounds more intimidating, but it is less useful as a comparison to 9mm
22:26 Seroster And honestly, 12mm sounds pretty fucking intimidating
22:26 Katemonster it kind of makes no difference to me since i've memorized the the conversions between all of them.  9mm = .356" bullet
22:27 Seroster You shouldnt HAVE to.
22:27 * speedrunnerG55 pops out
22:27 Katemonster i shouldn't
22:27 Katemonster but i would be more accepting of the metric system for ammunition if they actually measured the bullet diameter rather than the land-to-land diameter of the barrel rifling.
22:28 Seroster Then start using that system
22:28 * lwq1996 is going swimming
22:28 Seroster And hope people agree
22:28 lwq1996 see ya latter
22:28 lwq1996 later*
22:28 Katemonster bye
22:28 angy bye the-one-who-change-nick
22:28 lwq1996 is now known as lwq_swimming
22:29 * Katemonster wonders: swimming in what?
22:29 * angy don't want to know
22:29 masterofmonks lwq_swimming: Wear your sunblock.
22:29 Katemonster >.>
22:29 lwq_swimming my pool
22:29 lwq_swimming its not sunny in my pool
22:29 angy I had kind of another idea, for sure
22:30 lwq_swimming what idea did you had
22:30 angy I'd rather not share ^,..,^
22:31 lwq_swimming send me in a pm
22:31 lwq_swimming oh well im going swimming....IN MY POOL FILLED WITH WATTER
22:32 lwq_swimming just to clearify
22:34 * Katemonster decides to just not go into it.
22:35 Katemonster ...
22:35 Katemonster with WATTER?
22:35 Katemonster lol, oh children.  may i never have them.
22:35 angy I don't know what that is, I'd rather stay out :p
22:40 Seroster Anyone know how much anfo the oslo bomber used?
22:42 masterofmonks Seroster: Here is what I know.
22:42 angy in pounds, stones, milligrams ?
22:42 angy :)
22:42 masterofmonks He purchased 6 metric tons of amonium nitrate.
22:42 Seroster He had a fucking farm
22:42 masterofmonks They found 5
22:42 Seroster Ah
22:42 Seroster So 1tonne disappeared
22:42 Seroster Wich would make it a 2 tonne charge
22:42 masterofmonks Correct
22:42 Seroster Fuck that is a lot of anfo
22:43 Seroster That's more than the infamous mythbusters cement tryck
22:43 Seroster (Wich I think was approx 400kg)
22:43 masterofmonks Which honestly says a lot about his placement.
22:43 angy amfo if I'm not mistaken
22:43 Seroster Nope
22:43 Seroster ANFO
22:43 masterofmonks ANFO
22:43 Seroster Ammonium Nitrate Fuel Oil
22:43 masterofmonks Ammonium Nitrate Fuel Oil.
22:43 tanilolli joined #thegeekgroup
22:43 masterofmonks Damnit Seroster
22:43 angy Yes, but AMmoniun nitrate Fuel Oil
22:43 * speedrunnerG55 pops out
22:43 speedrunnerG55 Hi
22:44 Seroster Ha! You are too old, masterofmonks! =P
22:44 speedrunnerG55 Im a sj
22:44 masterofmonks angy: It's the "Nitratge" part that is important.
22:44 masterofmonks Bah, Nitrate*
22:44 angy I know
22:44 speedrunnerG55 Im a skelition. And i poped out
22:44 angy but it's not in the name
22:44 angy as weird as it is
22:44 Seroster .w anfo
22:44 BotSteve "Anfo is a comune in the province of Brescia, in Lombardy near Lake Idro." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anfo
22:44 angy .w amfo
22:44 BotSteve "Zaytuna F.C. United is football (soccer) club from Ghana based in Accra." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaytuna_F.C.
22:44 Seroster =)
22:44 angy ok, so wikipedia is boring
22:44 Seroster Sorry
22:44 masterofmonks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANFO
22:45 speedrunnerG55 Hi Seroster
22:45 Seroster Hi speed
22:45 Seroster Have you got any information on the detonator?
22:45 masterofmonks Seroster: No.
22:45 angy that is weird, Dupont sold it to us as AMFO, never ANFO
22:46 masterofmonks angy: Might be a branding thing.
22:46 angy I'm more on a US versus Europe thing
22:46 Seroster Nope
22:46 masterofmonks Where are you?
22:46 masterofmonks Beacuse I am in the U.S.
22:46 MoxieMike joined #thegeekgroup
22:46 angy and I was in europ
22:46 masterofmonks And Seroster is in Sweden.
22:47 Seroster And who sold you ANFO? That would be illegal in the US, and most of europe unless you got some kind of bond license
22:47 angy not when you work in the *boom* buziness
22:47 masterofmonks Seroster: Actually you just need a licence to have it in the U.S.
22:48 Seroster I am curious on how he made the detonator(s)
22:49 masterofmonks I would not be surprised if he used an oxygen acetylene mix to detonate it. Since that was done before.
22:49 Seroster Oh, do you get the proper velocity from O/A?
22:50 masterofmonks You get enough.
22:50 MoxieMike_______ left #thegeekgroup
22:51 masterofmonks Seroster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV0fsa6fUUg&amp;feature=fvwrel
22:56 eadthem joined #thegeekgroup
23:02 Obtuse_lappy joined #thegeekgroup
23:05 speedrunnerG55 left #thegeekgroup
23:17 egrsteve left #thegeekgroup
23:19 injektion joined #thegeekgroup
23:20 injektion What is the best way to find out where an ethernet wall jack is connected to?
23:22 lwq_swimming left #thegeekgroup
23:24 injektion Cable tester?
23:25 NeWtoz that is one way
23:25 lwq_swimming joined #thegeekgroup
23:25 injektion This place where I am volunteering at has them all labeled but I do not where they originate
23:26 injektion I do not know*
23:26 NeWtoz if you have a few switches, or a switch and a laptop, plug one end into a computer, the other end to a switch or something and keep going until the light turns on
23:26 NeWtoz or the computer reacts
23:26 injektion They are labeled as D1, etc.but some are labeled as DSL1, etc.
23:27 injektion No one ever left any documentation
23:28 injektion Who makes a cable tester than I can afford?
23:28 injektion The Fluke one for 3k is waaay too expensive
23:29 NeWtoz there are some that are just continuity testers
23:29 NeWtoz those can be $50 or less
23:34 lwq_swimming left #thegeekgroup
23:35 injektion This is what I need http://www.flukenetworks.com/datacom-cabling/copper-testing/IntelliTone-Pro-Toner-and-Probe
23:39 angy left #thegeekgroup

| Channels | #thegeekgroup index | Today | | Search | Google Search | Plain-Text | summary