Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-08-07

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Time Nick Message
00:05 lwq1996 .stream
00:05 BotSteve The Geek Group Live Web Stream can be found at: http://justin.tv/thegeekgroup
00:06 lwq1996 .irc
00:14 lwq1996 botsteve: tell dj_jkl that they should make a mobile version on thegeekgroup.org so people with cells and stuff that reads in mobile format can use the site
00:14 BotSteve lwq1996: I'll pass that on when dj_jkl is around.
00:22 injektion joined #thegeekgroup
00:24 tlockley What is the SR-100 working on in the live stream?
00:24 lwq1996 moose is making a earth reliefe
00:24 tlockley that is what I thought
00:25 tlockley just out of curiosity what are the nicks of the for lack of better terminology "core geek group" member?
00:25 tlockley I.E. Chris, Moose, etc.
00:26 lwq1996 what do u mean
00:26 tlockley never mind
00:27 speedrunnerG55 joined #thegeekgroup
00:27 lwq1996 nicknames of the core staff?
00:27 tlockley yah
00:27 lwq1996 chris is captain
00:27 lwq1996 liz is mooses real name
00:28 lwq1996 i think dave is general badass
00:28 tlockley O, i was talking about IRC
00:28 lwq1996 oh
00:28 tlockley i have at this point watched almost all of the captains log vids so I have that mostly figured out.
00:28 lwq1996 chris is captaiboden
00:28 lwq1996 moose is tysk
00:28 lwq1996 moose is almost never on
00:29 lwq1996 bill jones is producer bill
00:31 tlockley cool, thanks
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00:35 Ponko-Away goes for the end ZONE
00:35 Ponko-Away he's got it TOUCHDOWN
00:36 masterofmonks Seriously, a brit that is obsessed with american footbal?
00:36 lwq1996 lol
00:36 lwq1996 u just now noticed that
00:36 masterofmonks No, I am just now asking about it.
00:36 lwq1996 ok
00:37 lwq1996 hey ponko mom has something to ask you
00:38 Ponko yeah i just like it
00:39 lwq1996 hmm
00:39 lwq1996 .seen toastdude
00:39 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw toastdude 17.61 hours ago at 2011-08-06 07:02:37 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:39:27 UTC
00:40 * speedrunnerG55 looks at hardware censors....
00:40 speedrunnerG55 my cppu is at 32 c :) my gpu is at 62 c O=
00:40 lwq1996 does someone know how to code
00:40 tlockley what language?
00:41 lwq1996 i need someone to make me a irc software
00:41 Obtuse_ you're in a room full of geeks, someone knows how to code
00:41 Obtuse_ irc software? say what?
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00:41 lwq1996 for a psp
00:43 Ponko i'm a true football fan but i play AF
00:50 Ponko omg DD is sooo fun
00:51 tlockley DD?
00:52 Ponko destruction derby
00:52 tlockley game?
00:52 Ponko yep
00:52 Ponko PS1
00:53 tlockley cool.
00:56 lwq1996 can someone make me a irc client for psp
00:56 Ponko oh noes
00:56 BatSteve What do you plan to use for a keyboard, lwq1996?
00:56 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
00:56 BotSteve At 06 Aug 23:26Z, Thermoelectric asked me to tell BatSteve You should implement something into BotSteve to +q people when they channel spam.
00:57 BatSteve I've considered it, Thermo.
00:57 lwq1996 batsteve im planing to use the d pad as a keyboard
00:57 lwq1996 heres one thing thermo he needs to be an operator then
00:58 Ponko BOOM that was sick
01:00 * Ponko is a Destruction Derby Master
01:00 wannabe1987 o?
01:00 wannabe1987 hi Ponko
01:00 Ponko helloooo
01:01 tonsofpcs hey, what's proper cleanup for a shattered fluorescent tube?
01:02 wannabe1987 gas mask, broom, dustpan, ziplock bag?
01:02 lwq1996 dont even need the gas mask
01:02 lwq1996 broom dustpan will do
01:03 wannabe1987 i'm thinking a ziplock bag so the pieces aren't loose in a trash can, but you could just sweep it up...
01:03 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i have caek
01:03 BotSteve Nope
01:03 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i have cake
01:03 BotSteve I don't think so
01:03 wannabe1987 BOTSTEVE: don't you love me?
01:03 lwq1996 hehe denied
01:03 wannabe1987 lwq1996: should i have cake?
01:03 lwq1996 nopd
01:04 lwq1996 nope
01:04 wannabe1987 no cake for you then either
01:04 wannabe1987 i was gonna share
01:04 lwq1996 so i dont want cake when i have pie
01:04 wannabe1987 but not anymore
01:04 wannabe1987 i have pizza too
01:04 * lwq1996 secret weakness is pizza
01:04 tonsofpcs wannabe: can I have cake?
01:04 lwq1996 ok you can have cake
01:05 wannabe1987 i have puppy chow too
01:05 lwq1996 i's have pizza if you have cake <:)
01:05 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs - sure
01:06 wannabe1987 its from costco :D
01:06 Ponko damn this game kicks ass
01:06 lwq1996 WANNABE
01:06 wannabe1987 LEE
01:06 wannabe1987 jets pizza....
01:06 lwq1996 can i have pizza if you have cake <:)
01:06 wannabe1987 yes
01:06 lwq1996 jets pizza?
01:07 wannabe1987 we had three pizzas left over o.O
01:07 lwq1996 any pizza's good pizza for me
01:07 Ponko New York Jets?????
01:07 wannabe1987 so i'm bringing home 10 slices of pizza and 5 pieces of cake
01:07 wannabe1987 Ponko no
01:07 Ponko ;)
01:07 wannabe1987 jets pizza != sports
01:07 Ponko NOOOOOO
01:07 lwq1996 damn he left
01:07 Ponko BATSTEVEEEEEEEE
01:08 Ponko WHHYYYYYYYYYY
01:08 BatSteve joined #thegeekgroup
01:08 BotSteve Welcome back, boss.
01:08 lwq1996 ponko is he your gay lover
01:08 wannabe1987 ...
01:08 Ponko yes yes he is -_- good lord man
01:08 wannabe1987 LOL
01:08 wannabe1987 BatSteve you're not supposed to do that....
01:08 Ponko he's my go to guy
01:08 lwq1996 hehe
01:09 Ponko yeah not in that way
01:09 Ponko maybe because you wish he was YOUR gay lover.... dun dun duhhhhhhh
01:10 lwq1996 HE IS MY GAY LOVER...
01:10 wannabe1987 um.....
01:10 Ponko i knew it
01:10 Ponko lol
01:10 BatSteve um
01:11 wannabe1987 hi BatSteve
01:11 BatSteve hi kelly, how are you?
01:11 wannabe1987 good
01:11 wannabe1987 going back to the zoo tomorrow
01:11 lwq1996 im not bi
01:11 lwq1996 erm gay
01:11 Ponko ooo but you're not writing off the bi part
01:12 Ponko hmmm
01:12 Ponko lol
01:12 wannabe1987 ...
01:12 BatSteve you're not in the zoo right now?
01:12 lwq1996 no shes at her mommys and pappys house :]
01:14 wannabe1987 nope
01:14 wannabe1987 i came home for the weekend
01:14 BatSteve oh gotcha
01:15 * lwq1996 is listening to techno
01:15 wannabe1987 we had a family reunion of sorts all weekend i wanted to attend, so i get the couch in the basement
01:15 wannabe1987 i'm watching a rodeo on tv
01:16 wannabe1987 oooo harry potter!
01:18 * lwq1996 is going to clean his room
01:18 * Ponko is smashing cars up
01:21 lwq1996 lol
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01:23 wannabe1987 hi
01:23 Ponko i am champion
01:24 wannabe1987 o?
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01:24 BatSteve .....
01:25 * BatSteve just had a brilliant idea
01:25 wannabe1987 o?
01:25 Ponko ????
01:25 wannabe1987 should we be worried?
01:25 BatSteve Nope!
01:25 BatSteve ^_^
01:25 Ponko BatSteve should play Destruction Derby
01:25 wannabe1987 now i am worried
01:25 lwq1996 batsteve what is your brilliant idea
01:25 Ponko BatSteve WILL play Destruction Derby
01:26 lwq1996 is it to make me a software
01:26 Ponko BatSteve thinks my Arduino Scoreboard is a great idea
01:26 Ponko BatSteve wants to talk
01:27 Ponko about free energy
01:27 BatSteve lwq1996: no, definitely not.
01:27 BatSteve and it's not free energy either
01:27 Ponko lol
01:28 Ponko is it my scoreboard
01:28 Ponko which will be EPIC
01:28 Ponko yeah 10 Mega2560s are a tad overkill
01:28 lwq1996 ponko
01:28 lwq1996 lol
01:28 Ponko yes?
01:28 Ponko lol
01:29 wannabe1987 lwq1996: http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/251461_2075293594895_1021614925_32342933_45049_n.jpg
01:29 lwq1996 thats me and your project
01:29 Ponko well i came up with it you inspired me to think it
01:29 Ponko lol
01:29 Ponko but yes
01:31 Ponko it can be the IRC project
01:32 Ponko its gonna be epic
01:32 Ponko and BatSteve whats your bloody plan dammit man
01:33 lwq1996 lol he dont want us stealing it
01:34 Ponko he has us curious its wrong to not tell when you do that
01:34 BatSteve nah, it's not as big as you're making it out in your mind to be
01:34 BatSteve it's a small brilliant idea
01:35 BatSteve not a big brilliant one
01:37 Ponko not like mine and lees Scoreboard
01:37 BatSteve correct
01:38 Seroster Hrm
01:38 Ponko that's pretty F***ING epic if you ask me
01:38 Seroster Should be a capns blog out right about now?
01:38 lwq1996 batsteve then whats your project
01:39 BatSteve I'll tell you later, when it's done
01:39 Seroster He's making a robotic lover
01:39 * speedrunnerG55 pokes BatSteve
01:39 lwq1996 with a vibrating [censer censer]
01:40 Seroster Cup holder?
01:41 * lwq1996 facepalm grownups know nothing
01:41 Ponko hmmm
01:41 Seroster Mate, when you get older you'll learn that nothing beats a good cup holder.
01:41 Ponko i think he knew lee
01:41 Ponko and that's true
01:41 lwq1996 lol
01:42 BatSteve I have a cup holder built into my computer
01:43 BatSteve push the little button and it just pops right out
01:43 lwq1996 thats what i was about to say
01:43 Seroster BatSteve, I have a cup holder built into my computer too..
01:43 Seroster It's called the fucking TABLE
01:43 Seroster Stupid 'mericans...
01:44 lwq1996 i dont have one...mines a netbook :[
01:44 Ponko oh my god seroster
01:44 lwq1996 he had to yell
01:45 Seroster I can do an exception for Ponko, He's just semistupid. After all the brits were raped by vikings a few thousand years ago
01:45 Ponko well mey
01:45 lwq1996 batsteve can you put a +q on seroster
01:45 Ponko well met*
01:45 Seroster He CAN, but he won't, since he loves me.
01:45 Seroster At least that is why he moans into my ears every other week
01:45 Ponko but who saved you during WWII
01:46 Ponko wE
01:46 Ponko WE DID
01:46 Seroster Ponko... Yes? You were stupid enough to get involved.
01:46 Seroster And you jackasses bombed the wrong damn country too!
01:46 Ponko hmmm
01:46 lwq1996 seroster your a stupid swede
01:46 Seroster An english pilot heading for germany got lost and bombed a house down the street from where I was born
01:47 Seroster There is still a crack in the kitchen door =P
01:47 Ponko how many was that?
01:47 Seroster lwq1996, Sure am. But there are less of us than american!
01:47 Ponko 1 pilot
01:47 BatSteve Seroster: incorrect, the pilot was trying to hit you, the bomb just got there a few years before you were born
01:47 Seroster But it is still a fun story, Ponko? =P
01:47 Ponko ;)
01:48 Seroster BatSteve, Holy time paradox!
01:48 lwq1996 lol
01:48 Seroster That was like sixty fucking years before my time =P
01:48 Ponko MARTY
01:48 BatSteve HEY BUTTHEAD
01:48 Seroster nah, he only deals in even thirties
01:48 Seroster 1985, 2015..
01:48 Ponko 1931
01:49 Ponko ever played the game?
01:49 Seroster Your math is flawed.
01:49 Seroster 25
01:49 Ponko what the back to the future the game
01:49 Ponko that's when it's set
01:49 Ponko 1931
01:52 Ponko how much would a 1985 Cali Oct Plate with the personalisation OUTATIME cost
01:53 BatSteve unlikely you could get it - someone has assuredly beaten you to it
01:53 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: are you going to bring the cake here or do I need to send someone to pick it up?
01:53 tonsofpcs Ponko: depends... what's cali's laws on turning in/keeping plates?
01:54 speedrunnerG55 hi everyone
01:55 Ponko i was just thinking how much would people would think it would regardless of rules whatever just the price
01:55 tonsofpcs hi speedrunnerG55
01:55 tonsofpcs Ponko: well, some states if you have old plates you can use them.  some you can't.
01:55 speedrunnerG55 im taking a break between each chapter of my a+ book ^_^
01:55 tonsofpcs if cali allows you to use old plates that you manage to acquire, the price is much higher than if it's just gonna hang on the wall.
01:55 Ponko not to use just to own
01:55 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs you need to come to kzoo :D
01:55 tonsofpcs irrelevant.
01:56 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: get me a plane ticket
01:56 wannabe1987 do they take monopoly money?
01:56 speedrunnerG55 wannabe1987, can i got one too?
01:56 speedrunnerG55 lol
01:56 speedrunnerG55 get*
01:57 wannabe1987 yes
01:57 wannabe1987 its white costco cake
01:57 Ponko its going to be on my wall tonsofpcs
01:58 speedrunnerG55 err?
01:59 tonsofpcs Ponko: are you asking what you should pay, as it is available to you?
02:00 tonsofpcs replicas apparently go for $30
02:00 Seroster ERm.
02:00 Ponko i mean a genuine plate from cali from that year from that month and that county
02:00 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU5-hXeU9iA&amp;feature=related < Whats the fucking point? Just get a projector -.-
02:01 tonsofpcs that county?
02:01 tonsofpcs Seroster: they're more for tech demos and for panny to be able to say "ours is bigger"
02:02 Ponko the county hill valley is supposed to be in
02:02 tonsofpcs that said, I can see them being used in installations for multi-image displays like in operations centers
02:02 Seroster tonsofpcs, the same money would have built a small movie theater
02:02 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs i'll bring you cake
02:03 tonsofpcs we have 2x 60 or 70" plasmas on our production room wall.  There's no space for projection systems.
02:03 tonsofpcs Ponko: US license plates aren't from counties...
02:03 tonsofpcs (I mean, you get them through county offices in some states, but there's no reference to it on the stamped plate)
02:04 Ponko well i have a florida plate which has Osceola on it and thats a Floridian County
02:04 tonsofpcs (well, some states encode the county in their random plates -- like knowing my plate # you can figure out what county it was issued from -- but customs wouldn't follow)
02:05 * wannabe1987 passes out cake
02:05 lwq1996 /me steals everyones cake
02:06 tonsofpcs Ponko: like the 1911-1912 plate shown here: http://www.brevardtaxcollector.com/plates.htm ?
02:06 tonsofpcs yay cake!
02:06 * tonsofpcs runs into the room, pushing lwq1996 aside and grabbing cake
02:06 tonsofpcs let this be a lesson to you -- never get between a fat man and his food.
02:07 lwq1996 DONT......STEAL......MY........FOOD
02:08 * speedrunnerG55 steals lwq1996s food
02:08 [Python] how small is it ?
02:08 * Ponko throws punch at lwq1996 and hits with his right and lwq1996 is down
02:08 * speedrunnerG55 sees wannabe gave him cake
02:08 speedrunnerG55 :D
02:09 speedrunnerG55 thank you wannabe
02:09 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs you the fat man, or is lee the fat guy?  what if you're both "fat" then what?
02:09 wannabe1987 you're welcome speed.
02:09 wannabe1987 at least *someone* has manners
02:10 Ponko i didn't take my piece
02:11 * Ponko takes piece
02:11 Ponko thank you :)
02:11 * lwq1996 is sad
02:11 wannabe1987 you're welcome
02:11 wannabe1987 lwq1996 why
02:11 * lwq1996 starts crying
02:11 * wannabe1987 gives lee cake. and pizza
02:12 wannabe1987 dont cry!
02:12 * lwq1996 jumps for joy and runs becuase it was a prank
02:12 wannabe1987 dont cry wolf!
02:12 * Ponko gives chase and sacks lwq1996
02:13 * lwq1996 red flags ponko
02:13 Ponko what you challenging?
02:13 Ponko the fact i just sacked you
02:13 Ponko which would be hard for me
02:13 lwq1996 no the fact that i dont play football
02:13 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: then we have an understanding tthat we both need to eat.
02:14 wannabe1987 win
02:14 Ponko but it would be yellow flag my friend
02:14 wannabe1987 lol good answer
02:14 lwq1996 okey yellow flag
02:14 * wannabe1987 purple flags Ponko
02:14 lwq1996 you tackled a padestrian
02:14 Ponko no i tackled a thief
02:14 wannabe1987 he didn't steal anything!
02:14 lwq1996 she gave it to me
02:15 Ponko you stole fizzy lifting drink
02:15 lwq1996 XD
02:15 Ponko you bumped into the ceiling which has to be washed and sterilisd
02:15 Ponko so you get NOTHING
02:15 Ponko YOU LOSE
02:15 wannabe1987 ...
02:15 wannabe1987 Ponko be nice to the children
02:15 Ponko GOOD DAY SIR
02:15 lwq1996 one thing...i never ate a wonka bar
02:16 lwq1996 wannabe im a teen
02:16 Ponko you look like a black haired charlie though
02:16 lwq1996 WHAT........DID.....YOU......CALL......ME
02:16 wannabe1987 lee i know.  but you're younger than most of us...
02:17 wannabe1987 younger than i by 10 years
02:17 * lwq1996 doesnt care if he gets yello flaged and goes and kicks ponko's ass
02:17 * Ponko drops lwq1996
02:18 Ponko don't pick a fight with me boy
02:18 lwq1996 ponko i sugest you run now
02:18 masterofmonks Children.
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02:19 lwq1996 see i told you to run from mom
02:20 Ponko ahh i can see what you were thinking even though i know that wasn't what you meant ;)
02:20 Ponko BatSteve Spitfire or Hurricane which one would you fly?
02:21 BatSteve Ponko: either, if someone else was paying for the gas
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02:25 Ponko which would you say was better though
02:25 wannabe1987 lee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
02:26 lwq1996 yes
02:26 BatSteve I'll tell you the truth, Ponko, I don't know enough about either to actually say.
02:27 lwq1996 batsteve whats your project
02:27 Ponko well if i said Republic P40
02:27 BatSteve lwq1996: it's not done yet.  I'll tell you when it's done
02:27 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB1DVVPyQmA&amp;feature=youtu.be  o.O
02:28 wannabe1987 freaks me out
02:28 wannabe1987 for somereason, the PA1,2,3 movies freak me out, yet i keep watching them
02:31 Seroster Paranormal activity?
02:32 [Python] left #thegeekgroup
02:32 wannabe1987 ues
02:32 Seroster Monofilament string freaks you out?
02:32 wannabe1987 yes*
02:32 wannabe1987 huh?
02:33 Seroster Are they sold as documentaries or just crappy horror?
02:33 wannabe1987 horror movies
02:33 Seroster Yeah... So... Why do they freak you out?
02:33 wannabe1987 dunno
02:34 Seroster They are just bad horror flicks with (from what I've seen) bad special effects
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02:34 Seroster You wanna see something freaky? Google me. That's fucking freaky. The PA movies are fiction, I'm not.
02:38 wannabe1987 ...
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02:38 wannabe1987 google seroster?  i don't think so
02:38 wannabe1987 i'm not stalking you
02:40 Seroster lol
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02:41 speedrunnerG55 xmonster?!
02:41 speedrunnerG55 why!
02:41 Bitchmonster speed racer
02:41 speedrunnerG55 :)
02:42 speedrunnerG55 :)
02:42 BatSteve .coffee sleepymonster
02:42 BatSteve drat
02:42 BatSteve you idiot
02:42 Sleepymonster lol
02:42 BatSteve you haven't implemented that yet
02:42 speedrunnerG55 sleepy is better than  [censored]
02:42 wannabe1987 o.O  14 year old serial rapist.....(SVU)
02:42 Sleepymonster wanna, wth are you talkiangdssfdzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
02:42 speedrunnerG55 BatSteve, ??!
02:42 BatSteve speedrunnerG55: you know you can curse here, we don't mind
02:43 BatSteve and I was talking to myself
02:43 speedrunnerG55 O
02:43 wannabe1987 lol Sleepymonster i'm talking ablut law and order SVU
02:43 speedrunnerG55 that waht i thought
02:43 speedrunnerG55 i just dont want to curse
02:43 speedrunnerG55 its not my style
02:43 speedrunnerG55 lol
02:43 wannabe1987 fuck you , speed :P
02:43 wannabe1987 jk
02:44 speedrunnerG55 D:
02:44 * speedrunnerG55 cries
02:44 Sleepymonster toughen the fuck up speed
02:44 speedrunnerG55 T_T
02:44 wannabe1987 audi r18 tdi
02:44 Sleepymonster i saw we drop speed off at the marine recruiter.
02:45 Sleepymonster *say
02:45 speedrunnerG55 @_@
02:45 wannabe1987 speedrunnerG55 its ok
02:45 BatSteve speedrunnerG55: that's fair.
02:45 wannabe1987 i'm joking
02:45 Sleepymonster i'm not
02:45 speedrunnerG55 =O
02:45 wannabe1987 it used to not be my style, then i made bad choices and now its my "style" as you say
02:46 speedrunnerG55 :/
02:46 Sleepymonster self-consciousness issue #35754: i swear waaaaaay too much.
02:46 Sleepymonster on the other hand, people need to not be so fucking judgmental.
02:47 Sleepymonster speed, how old are you?
02:47 speedrunnerG55 19
02:47 Sleepymonster what are you doing with your life?
02:47 speedrunnerG55 in collage
02:47 Sleepymonster for what
02:48 speedrunnerG55 traid school actually
02:48 speedrunnerG55 IT
02:48 Sleepymonster obviously they don't teach english
02:48 Sleepymonster :p
02:48 wannabe1987 LOL
02:48 Sleepymonster was just curious.
02:48 speedrunnerG55 :(
02:48 Sleepymonster i still say we drop you off at the marine recruiter's office.
02:49 Sleepymonster in 4 years you won't feel nearly as bad about swearing.  :D
02:49 speedrunnerG55 they dont teach phonetics enough in school
02:49 speedrunnerG55 ;_;
02:49 Sleepymonster relax speed, i like you.
02:49 Sleepymonster unlike some other people around here.
02:50 Sleepymonster i'm just an asshole.
02:51 Sleepymonster ...an asshole who should probably go cycle her laundry.  brb.
02:51 speedrunnerG55 remids me of a friend i have in school
02:51 speedrunnerG55 he sayd since hes not physically tough. he akts like a smug {sencored}
02:51 speedrunnerG55 acts*
02:52 speedrunnerG55 says*
02:52 * speedrunnerG55 should find better friends :/
02:52 lwq1996 .......
02:52 speedrunnerG55 not you guys, your awesome
02:53 lwq1996 ok
02:53 speedrunnerG55 :)
02:53 BatSteve BotSteve: Break Time!
02:53 wannabe1987 :phew
02:53 wannabe1987 o.O
02:53 wannabe1987 bye bye botsteve
02:54 BatSteve he'll be back
02:54 BatSteve I'm screwing with him
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02:54 * speedrunnerG55 unscrews BotSteve
02:55 speedrunnerG55 lol
02:55 wannabe1987 you're screwing the bot?!
02:55 wannabe1987 damn BatSteve
02:55 Ponko laters
02:55 wannabe1987 bye Ponko
02:55 speedrunnerG55 bye Ponko
02:57 Sleepymonster back
02:57 Sleepymonster wanna, you have such a dirty mind.
02:58 Sleepymonster clearly he's not *screwing* the bot.
02:58 Sleepymonster that's seroster's job.
02:58 * Seroster gets the lube
02:58 Sleepymonster either screwing or screwing up.
02:59 wannabe1987 Sleepymonster you're JSUT figuring this out now?!
02:59 BatSteve Seroster: what's that for?
02:59 BatSteve also, why can't I keep a girlfriend?
02:59 BatSteve (:
02:59 Seroster BatSteve, You want me to screw your bot DRY?
02:59 * speedrunnerG55 looks at the channel for a sec
02:59 speedrunnerG55 OH EM GHEEE
02:59 speedrunnerG55 what are you guys doing!??!
02:59 Sleepymonster wannabe1987: idk, you've driven it into my head pretty hard that you were totally sheltered and don't know anything about the real world :p
03:00 wannabe1987 i *was* sheltered
03:00 Seroster Anyhow
03:00 wannabe1987 i'm trying to undo many years of shelteredness
03:00 Seroster I think I'll join Sleepymonster
03:00 wannabe1987 can't be undone at once
03:00 wannabe1987 night Seroster
03:00 wannabe1987 i'm going to sleep sometime soon as well
03:00 wannabe1987 so tired
03:00 wannabe1987 o wait, news first :P
03:00 Sleepymonster so you've already reached the "sheltered kids always turn out to be the most freaky adults" stage?
03:01 Sleepymonster seroster, idk what you're doing but stay the hell away from me.
03:01 wannabe1987 maybe.  my friend has surpassed me in some ways....
03:01 Seroster I won't bother ya
03:01 wannabe1987 she was homeschooled....so she's like TOTALLY SHELTERED
03:01 Seroster Just gonna poke you a bit.
03:01 wannabe1987 ...
03:02 Sleepymonster i was home schooled for 3 years.  it probably did more damage than good.
03:02 Seroster Sleepymonster and wannabe1987, Wanna know a couple of kids that were extremely sheltered? The Fritzl kids!
03:02 wannabe1987 .?
03:02 BatSteve so long Seroster
03:02 BatSteve assuming you're leaving
03:02 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell Seroster to go to bed
03:02 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when Seroster is around.
03:02 Seroster Piss off BotSteve
03:02 BotSteve Seroster: I have the following messages for you:
03:02 BotSteve At 03:02Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell Seroster to go to bed
03:02 wannabe1987 lol
03:03 Seroster You too, wannabe1987. =P
03:03 Sleepymonster seroster, you sound like you knew them personally.
03:03 Seroster Tomorrow my gfs sister and her son will be here
03:03 Seroster Are bolt cutters safe enough for a 2 year old?
03:03 Sleepymonster ...
03:03 Sleepymonster yes.  totally.
03:03 Seroster Sleepymonster, I can't talk about my relation to those kids because of legal reasons.
03:03 Sleepymonster uh huh.
03:05 Sleepymonster gawd why do i have so little energy today.  :(
03:05 Sleepymonster batsteve, is this going to reset the bot's .seen database?
03:05 BatSteve is what?
03:06 wannabe1987 .seen csmonster
03:06 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw csmonster 23.62 hours ago at 2011-08-06 03:29:14 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:06:28 UTC
03:06 BatSteve .seen bitchmonster
03:06 BotSteve BatSteve: I last saw bitchmonster 0.42 hours ago at 2011-08-07 02:41:33 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:06:28 UTC
03:06 wannabe1987 .seen sleepymonster
03:06 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw sleepymonster 0.01 hours ago at 2011-08-07 03:05:43 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:06:37 UTC
03:06 wannabe1987 .seen toastdude
03:06 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw toastdude 20.07 hours ago at 2011-08-06 07:02:37 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:06:44 UTC
03:07 Sleepymonster oh i hadn't noticed the bot came back.
03:07 Sleepymonster .seen druidic_rifleman
03:07 BotSteve Sleepymonster: I last saw druidic_rifleman 94.55 hours ago at 2011-08-03 04:33:58 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:07:07 UTC
03:07 Sleepymonster oh good.
03:07 wannabe1987 i thought i saw him yesterday....maybe not
03:08 Sleepymonster trying to re-energize myself with music
03:08 Sleepymonster it's not workign
03:08 BatSteve he showed up but didn't talk
03:08 Sleepymonster *working
03:08 masterofmonks Sleepymonster: Have you tried Apocalyptica?
03:08 Sleepymonster not my style
03:08 Sleepymonster maybe i'm just not playing it loud enough.
03:09 * Sleepymonster digs out the Soundgarden CD
03:09 wannabe1987 apocalyptica plays awesome cello musics :D
03:09 Sleepymonster ...
03:09 Sleepymonster wow, i am tired.
03:09 * Sleepymonster digs out the Audioslave CD
03:10 Seroster Go to fucking sleep Sleepymonster
03:10 Seroster left #thegeekgroup
03:11 Sleepymonster lack of sleep isn't the problem
03:11 Sleepymonster in fact "sleepy" is not the proper term
03:11 Sleepymonster but "feels like she's been run over by a tank monster" doesn't fit the 16 character nick limit.
03:11 BatSteve rumble rumble, I'm a tank
03:12 Toastdude joined #thegeekgroup
03:12 wannabe1987 you could be tankmonster :P
03:12 wannabe1987 hi Toastdude!!!!!!!!!!!!!
03:13 * wannabe1987 gets out peanut butter and jelly
03:13 Toastdude Hi wannabe1987!!!
03:13 BotSteve Toastdude: I have the following messages for you:
03:13 BotSteve At 06 Aug 22:35Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell Toastdude .............................................................................................................................................................
03:13 Toastdude ????????
03:13 wannabe1987 don't worry about it
03:13 Monstertank hey toast
03:13 wannabe1987 we were dotting then masterofmonks said to stop
03:13 Toastdude Hi Monstertank
03:14 Toastdude Ah
03:14 Monstertank WUT
03:14 Toastdude Hi hankmonster!
03:14 hankmonster ..
03:15 speedrunnerG55 o_o
03:15 speedrunnerG55 BatSteve, ?!?1
03:16 * BatSteve doesn't know either
03:16 Toastdude .seen lwq1996
03:16 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw lwq1996 0.38 hours ago at 2011-08-07 02:53:19 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:16:10 UTC
03:16 * speedrunnerG55 gives BatSteve a mirror
03:16 wannabe1987 BatSteve is confused
03:16 * speedrunnerG55 gives BatSteve a loopback cabble
03:16 speedrunnerG55 LOL
03:16 BatSteve Woo!  Loopback is the best kind of interface!
03:17 BatSteve ...darn, seroster is gone
03:17 speedrunnerG55 LOLOL
03:17 * Toastdude gives BatSteve an IBM
03:17 speedrunnerG55 lenovo?
03:17 * Monstertank gives batsteve an SRBM
03:17 speedrunnerG55 lenovos are awesome
03:18 * Toastdude gives BatSteve a Y/F-22A
03:18 * BatSteve was hoping for an ICBM
03:18 * Toastdude gives BatSteve an ICBM
03:19 BatSteve yeay!
03:19 * masterofmonks gives BatSteve a hamburger.
03:19 masterofmonks You are going to need a hand truck to move that.
03:19 * Toastdude gives BatSteve a silo
03:19 NeWtoz WTB: in the GR area, rack mount server rails
03:19 NeWtoz go go go
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03:20 Toastdude Hi ovestein
03:20 BatSteve Things I did not know until last week - civilian GPS units will refuse to provide position information when the unit detects that it's moving at more than 1,000 knots, since if that happens it believes it's been installed in a cruise missile.
03:20 BatSteve ho ovestein
03:20 BatSteve *hi
03:20 ovestein Hi! :-)
03:20 masterofmonks BatSteve: I swear I mentioned that a couple of week ago in the channel.
03:21 BatSteve you probably did, and that's probably where I learned it
03:21 masterofmonks Oh.
03:21 ovestein anyone who know if the forklift movie is out?
03:21 masterofmonks Das ist Klaus?
03:23 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVssz2VMJVM&amp;feature=related
03:23 wannabe1987 the autopsy?
03:23 masterofmonks Weak stomached people shouldn't click.
03:23 Monstermonster i blame bruce simpson.
03:24 ovestein yes wannabe1987
03:25 wannabe1987 .yt geek group forklift autopsy
03:25 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqvWbxajGhc
03:25 wannabe1987 no
03:25 wannabe1987 fail
03:26 wannabe1987 botsteve
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03:26 wannabe1987 ovestein i don't think its done yet
03:26 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/user/thegeekgroup when its done it'll be here
03:26 wannabe1987 in that link
03:27 ovestein still editing video? i just can't wait! tech autopsy is just up my alley!!! :->
03:28 wannabe1987 well, they shot like 2 days of video...
03:31 lwq1996 ima back from my shower
03:31 Toastdude Yay, Hi Lee!
03:32 Toastdude So BatSteve, may I have the Y/F-22A since you have the ICBM?
03:32 BatSteve Sure
03:32 BatSteve it is yours
03:32 BatSteve I make a present of it to you
03:32 BatSteve (:
03:32 Toastdude YAY! Thank you BatSteve!
03:34 lwq1996 what
03:34 Toastdude Hi lwq1996
03:34 lwq1996 hi
03:34 Toastdude What's up?
03:34 lwq1996 nothing much just got out of the shower
03:35 Toastdude I should probably take a shower... I've been in the pool all day
03:35 wannabe1987 o.O
03:36 wannabe1987 i'vew been chasing kids all day
03:36 wannabe1987 brb
03:36 lwq1996 lol....its been a week since i took a shower....so i took one
03:36 Toastdude Lol
03:38 wannabe1987 back
03:38 wannabe1987 um. lee thats not something you normally tell people
03:38 Toastdude LOL, true...
03:39 lwq1996 havent you noticed im not normal
03:39 wannabe1987 yes
03:39 Monstermonster lwq... that's fucking gross.
03:39 wannabe1987 my friend goes "now the ants are in my computer too, why Mr. Ant are you obsessed with pc laptops, wouldn't you rather prefer an Apple?"  and someone replies "Apples are locked down tight... that's why PC's tend to have more bugs."  and i go "hahaha more bugs :P"
03:39 wannabe1987 Monstermonster nice nick
03:39 lwq1996 hey...im lazy durring the summer
03:40 BatSteve that's....pretty awful
03:40 BatSteve not gonna lie
03:41 lwq1996 i take showers everyday durring the school season
03:41 Monstermonster now that is sexy. http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff313/dlchan/Dsc08514_DLCsTwoP6spointed-up-m.jpg
03:41 BatSteve that doesn't make you any less gross right now though
03:41 lwq1996 -.-
03:41 lwq1996 i took a shower
03:42 BatSteve Monstermonster: are those SIG's?
03:42 Monstermonster yes
03:42 wannabe1987 good job lee :)
03:42 Monstermonster P225s
03:43 BatSteve I need to learn not to judge a pistol by its manufacturer, but I don't much care for sigs
03:44 BatSteve That being said, if someone were to offer me range time with one, I wouldn't turn it down.
03:48 Monstermonster heh
03:48 Monstermonster i'm not a big fan in general but i do really like the P6/P225
03:48 Monstermonster it's single-stack 9mm
03:48 Monstermonster very small
03:49 Monstermonster aha, i finally found the smiley i was looking for
03:50 Monstermonster http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1876/damaged.png
03:54 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: MattG on Good place to buy rare earth magnets?.....NeWtoz on WTB: Rack Mount Server Rails
03:55 lwq1996 toast i sucessfully took off and landed two times now
04:00 lwq1996 toastdude i landed 4times now without crashing and starting over
04:00 Toastdude Nice!
04:00 lwq1996 hehe
04:00 BatSteve congrats!
04:01 Monstermonster now do it in heavy fog.
04:02 lwq1996 im still a newb i crashed just driving around
04:02 BatSteve Monstermonster: I did that this afternoon!
04:02 BatSteve it was cool!
04:02 Monstermonster lol
04:03 BatSteve I wouldn't call it "heavy" though
04:03 BatSteve so I exaggerated a bit
04:03 Monstermonster i guessing you're instrument rated anyway
04:03 Toastdude Do an IFR landing Lee
04:04 lwq1996 whats that toast
04:04 Monstermonster HAHAHAHA
04:04 Monstermonster HAHA
04:04 Toastdude Instrument flight rule, right BatSteve?
04:04 Monstermonster HA
04:04 Monstermonster liquid, you're hilarious.
04:05 BatSteve your psychotic laughter killed my bot
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04:05 Toastdude Nice Monstermonster...
04:05 Monstermonster i was going to say "i'm guessing lwq doesn't know what 'instrument rated' means," but i decided that would be mean so i held it back.
04:05 BatSteve and yeah, that's correct toast
04:05 Monstermonster self-fulfilling prophecy.
04:05 Toastdude Ok
04:06 Toastdude lwq1996: it's when you land using only instruments, no visual
04:07 BatSteve "Keepin' em centered" as they say.
04:08 Monstermonster lwq, i don't hate you, just so you know.
04:14 lwq1996 -.- im not into flying
04:16 wannabe1987 its ok
04:16 wannabe1987 neither am i...i like flying tho :P someone else has to operate the plane
04:18 * lwq1996 would love to fly a 747
04:19 Monstermonster see, as far as i'm concerned aviation is the only thing in the world.  everything else is imaginary.
04:20 wannabe1987 even weapons are imaginary?
04:21 lwq1996 no theres weapons on military airplanes aint they
04:28 wannabe1987 i meant like guns but yes lee
04:28 wannabe1987 hand guns
04:28 wannabe1987 rifles
04:28 wannabe1987 shotguns
04:28 wannabe1987 etc
04:28 Toastdude Miniguns!
04:30 * dr_jkl checks in
04:30 BatSteve Microguns!
04:30 dr_jkl BFG's!
04:31 lwq1996 toast i did what you said and stalled while landing and i landed
04:31 lwq1996 dr_jkl is the problem fixed with the website
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04:33 dr_jkl lwq1996: when the problem is dealt with, an announcement will be made. it could happen again, but i was up most of the evening putting additional code in place to try to prevent it.
04:33 lwq1996 ok cool
04:33 Toastdude What happened to the website?
04:34 lwq1996 we are not at liberty to say
04:35 wannabe1987 http://phoodinyoface.blogspot.com/2011/08/busy-weekend.html
04:35 wannabe1987 hi LinuxH4x0r
04:35 LinuxH4x0r hi
04:35 Monstermonster BatSteve: you mean the XM214 "six pac"?
04:38 Monstermonster wannabe1987: no, weapons are not real, unless they are attached to flying machines.
04:38 wannabe1987 ok
04:45 * wannabe1987 thinks it might be bedtime
04:46 BatSteve good plan
04:46 BatSteve and Monstermonster, I don't think so, no
04:46 wannabe1987 what, you want to get rid of me?! :'(
04:47 Monstermonster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM214_Microgun
04:48 Toastdude No one wants to get rid of you wannabe1987
04:51 * speedrunnerG55 pokes wannabe1987
04:51 * Toastdude pokes speedrunnerG55
04:51 wannabe1987 Toastdude you sure?
04:51 Toastdude I don't....
04:52 wannabe1987 kk
04:52 speedrunnerG55 i dont
04:52 wannabe1987 yay :D
04:52 wannabe1987 i'm wanted!!!!!!!!!!!!
04:52 * speedrunnerG55 pokes Toastdude
04:53 Toastdude Pure Apollo 13 epicness: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6i5vgDJFb4
04:53 * speedrunnerG55 sees a hole left , oh my
04:53 * Toastdude pokes speedrunnerG55 again
04:53 * lwq1996 hugs wannabe
04:53 wannabe1987 awww thanks lee :)  you're awesome :D
04:53 Toastdude Hugs!
04:53 lwq1996 :]
04:53 wannabe1987 :D
04:53 * Toastdude hugs wannabe1987!
04:53 lwq1996 group hug/
04:53 lwq1996 ?
04:53 wannabe1987 no i don't like being squished
04:54 Toastdude Group hug!
04:54 * lwq1996 slaps toast
04:54 wannabe1987 o.O
04:54 wannabe1987 violence is NOT THE ANSWER
04:54 Toastdude You suggested it...
04:55 lwq1996 i sugested it but she said no and you did it anyway
04:55 wannabe1987 i didn't suggest nothing
04:55 Toastdude wannabe1987: I kinda need to know what you look like in case you do come to GRR... Lol
04:56 Toastdude I meant lee suggested it
04:56 wannabe1987 i'm female
04:56 wannabe1987 not red
04:56 Toastdude But I thought you said you might come....
04:56 wannabe1987 i might
04:58 * speedrunnerG55 is between chapters again
04:58 speedrunnerG55 so im takking a break. whats up everyone
04:58 wannabe1987 HUGS!
04:59 * speedrunnerG55 checks to see if reds here..... 0_0
04:59 speedrunnerG55 shes not
05:00 Toastdude Brb
05:01 speedrunnerG55 >_>
05:03 wannabe1987 gah i do need sleep....
05:03 wannabe1987 night all
05:03 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell toastdude wannabe says goodnight
05:03 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when toastdude is around.
05:03 * speedrunnerG55 hugs wannabe
05:03 speedrunnerG55 night wannabe
05:03 wannabe1987 night speed
05:04 wannabe1987 night lwq1996
05:04 lwq1996 awe
05:04 lwq1996 its only one
05:05 wannabe1987 and i have to get up at 8:30, we're leaving for church at 10:15, church is from 11-1
05:05 lwq1996 ok
05:05 wannabe1987 then we eat, come home, i pack up, pick up max and head to kzoo
05:08 Monstermonster you're not gone yet
05:08 Monstermonster why are you not gone yet
05:10 wannabe1987 i don't leave when i go to bed...i stay here until my computer gets shut down....
05:10 wannabe1987 so i coulda been gone
05:10 Monstermonster lies.
05:11 wannabe1987 i'm opening up spotify
05:11 Monstermonster i'm just messing with you.  have a good night
05:11 wannabe1987 you too :)
05:11 lwq1996 night wannabe :[
05:11 wannabe1987 sorry lee.  you ok?
05:13 lwq1996 yes im ok
05:13 wannabe1987 kk
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05:18 Toastdude NNight lwq1996
05:18 BotSteve Toastdude: I have the following messages for you:
05:18 BotSteve At 05:03Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell Toastdude wannabe says goodnight
05:19 Toastdude Sorry, night wannabe1987
05:19 lwq1996 toastdude im not going to bed
05:20 Toastdude I know, I just looked at the very end of the log..
05:20 Monstermonster darn.
05:20 lwq1996 what monster
05:20 Toastdude ...
05:20 Monstermonster didn't say a thing.
05:20 Monstermonster :p
05:23 masterofmonks Winer of this question gets a +q until morning. "What is 2 squared?"
05:23 Toastdude 4
05:23 * BatSteve is not sure that a +q is really a prize....
05:23 Monstermonster ....
05:24 Toastdude Oh crap...
05:24 masterofmonks Which just goes to show how well people read things.
05:24 Monstermonster LOL
05:24 Monstermonster nice one toast.
05:24 Toastdude I didn't know what q+ was....
05:24 lwq1996 you should give him the +q
05:24 Monstermonster nah, we like toast.
05:24 lwq1996 hey he won
05:25 Toastdude Thanks Monstermonster
05:25 Toastdude Maybe I wasn't saying anything relating to the question... Maybe I was randomly saying 4
05:26 Monstermonster uh huh.
05:26 lwq1996 shure toast >.>
05:26 Monstermonster arguing it is more likely to get you that +q.
05:26 masterofmonks No, I am not going to quiet you, it was to demonstrate a point. People see what they think they want to see.
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05:26 tlockley Plop
05:27 BatSteve plop
05:27 BatSteve fizz
05:27 BatSteve fizz
05:27 tlockley lol
05:27 tlockley Alka-Selzer
05:27 Toastdude I forgot what a +q was... And yes I thought you meant +v...
05:27 tlockley what is a +q?
05:27 Monstermonster stfu
05:28 Monstermonster er... "quiet"
05:28 tlockley i see
05:28 lwq1996 tell him
05:28 lwq1996 sorry
05:28 lwq1996 sent before i read
05:28 Monstermonster lol
05:28 tlockley just like the rest of the internet
05:29 tlockley anyone here reedit?
05:29 tlockley *reddit
05:30 BatSteve I do not - why, what's up there?
05:30 tlockley Fricking OS X Lion autocorrect
05:30 tlockley Oh, reddit is a link site that allows anyone to make a place to share pertinent links
05:30 tlockley it's sorta like community del.icio.us
05:31 BatSteve huh
05:31 tlockley with a vote system and comments
05:31 tlockley I was just looking and there isn't a subreddit for The Geek Group
05:31 lwq1996 tlockley please dont advertise here
05:32 BatSteve wait...that's not advertising...is it?
05:32 tlockley no
05:32 BatSteve ok, go on
05:32 tlockley Reddit is intended to be a social website
05:33 tlockley so for example there is a subreddit dedicated to ham radio
05:33 tlockley and people post links or internal what are called self posts relating to ham radio
05:33 BatSteve ok
05:34 tlockley Everything in each of the subreddits can be voted on by the community
05:34 tlockley so the theory is that the good floats to the top and the bad stuff gets buried
05:34 lwq1996 batsteve why did you do that
05:34 BatSteve because his time was up
05:34 * lwq1996 doesnt know what you mean
05:35 Monstermonster dare i ask, what is +v anyway?
05:35 lwq1996 voice
05:36 BatSteve most of the time, it's a meaningless designation
05:36 lwq1996 why did he get the v in the first place
05:36 BatSteve he said something especially clever
05:36 lwq1996 to aid in your project
05:37 BatSteve No
05:37 lwq1996 btw did you finish your project
05:37 BatSteve Nope
05:38 lwq1996 damn
05:38 masterofmonks Monstermonster: +v allows a user to speak when the channel is moderated. It is also typically used to designate "special" users.
05:39 Monstermonster ah
05:39 Monstermonster so in other words "here's a gold star for the day"
05:39 lwq1996 masterofmonks and i have a secret question to get a
05:39 lwq1996 =v
05:39 lwq1996 +v
05:39 Monstermonster i would like an =v
05:40 * speedrunnerG55 plays open arena a bit
05:40 masterofmonks Monstermonster: In a form yes. But I have been running an obscure trivia contest for the past couple fo days.
05:40 speedrunnerG55 OMG my gpu is at 77C
05:41 speedrunnerG55 now its at 74
05:42 Monstermonster i semi-noticed that.
05:42 Monstermonster and semi-approve
05:43 masterofmonks And having said that.
05:43 speedrunnerG55 now its at 70
05:43 masterofmonks *snore*
05:43 lwq1996 awe
05:43 Monstermonster later mom
05:43 speedrunnerG55 ?
05:43 lwq1996 mom can i have a hint for tomorrows question
05:44 lwq1996 masterofmonks&
05:44 Monstermonster look up the meaning of the word pugilism
05:44 Monstermonster that's your hint.
05:44 Toastdude Night masterofmonks
05:49 Toastdude I'll probably forget the meaning by tomorrow...
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05:50 lwq1996 .g pugilism
05:50 BotSteve lwq1996: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pugilism
05:51 Toastdude Should I go to sleep BotSteve?
05:51 Toastdude BotSteve: Should I go to sleep?
05:51 BotSteve No way
05:51 Toastdude Darn...
05:51 Boredmonster there you have it.
05:51 BatSteve toast: what time zone are you in?
05:51 Toastdude BotSteve: Shoukd I now?
05:52 Toastdude BatSteve: Chicago
05:52 BatSteve .t cdt
05:52 BotSteve Sun, 07 Aug 2011 00:52:13 CDT
05:52 lwq1996 eastern
05:52 BatSteve you should go to bed
05:52 BatSteve it's after midnight
05:52 Toastdude BotSteve: Should I now?
05:52 BotSteve I don't think so
05:52 BatSteve nothing good happens on the internet after midnight
05:52 Toastdude So? lol
05:52 Toastdude Oh
05:52 Boredmonster porn.
05:52 lwq1996 ew
05:52 * speedrunnerG55 sees BatSteve is on
05:53 speedrunnerG55 0_0
05:53 Boredmonster oh pffffft whatever liquid
05:53 BatSteve yep, I'm here, but that's my rule - "Nothing good happens on the internet after midnight"
05:53 BatSteve keeps me from staying up late waiting for the good things to happen
05:53 Boredmonster lol
05:53 Boredmonster you're on surprisingly late.  then again it's the weekend.
05:54 lwq1996 lol
05:54 Toastdude I'm always on here after midnight... I'm mostly nocturnal
05:54 lwq1996 lol
05:54 Thermoelectric
05:54 Toastdude At least during the summer
05:55 lwq1996 toastdude wanna do the team veiwer thing again
05:56 speedrunnerG55 DepletedUranium, ?!
05:56 DepletedUranium Hold on lwq1996, I have to go to the desktop
05:56 speedrunnerG55 team viewer?
05:56 DepletedUranium Got a problem with my nickname speedrunnerG55? ;)
05:57 speedrunnerG55 not really
05:57 DepletedUranium Lol
05:57 Boardmonster more like depleted breakfast.
05:57 lwq1996 lol
05:58 lwq1996 toast you on yet
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05:59 lwq1996 toast i need that password and id again send it in a pm
06:01 BatSteve Goodnight all
06:01 lwq1996 toastdude i need that id and pass again
06:01 AgCNO6 Night BatSteve
06:02 AgCNO6 Why?
06:02 BatSteve so long AgCNO6
06:02 lwq1996 because it automaticly resets
06:02 Toastdude I just sent you a pm
06:05 Boardmonster toast, your new nick should be Toastfire.
06:20 DepletedToast Boardmonster: Why
06:20 DepletedToast Jw
06:20 Boardmonster because i said so?
06:20 Boardmonster duh
06:20 Toastfire lol
06:21 Toastfire That's Lee controlling my compooper
06:21 lwq1996 heeh :D
06:22 Toastfire My other compooper...
06:22 Boardmonster remote desktop?
06:22 Toastfire Yep
06:22 Boardmonster that's like giving the keys to the family sedan to a 5 year old.  why would you do that
06:23 Toastfire I'm still there
06:23 Toastfire I'm watching
06:23 lwq1996 HEY!!!
06:23 Boardmonster LOL
06:23 Toastfire Yay, Toastfire is now registered!
06:23 lwq1996 toast i can make your life so horible right now
06:24 * speedrunnerG55 eats Toastfire
06:24 lwq1996 TOAST
06:24 * speedrunnerG55 gets burnt
06:24 speedrunnerG55 ouch
06:24 lees-awesome HAHA
06:24 lwq1996 -.- cant i ever have fun
06:24 lees-awesome lol
06:24 Boardmonster nope.
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06:25 Boardmonster .trope butt monkey
06:25 BotSteve Boardmonster: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ButtMonkey
06:25 lwq1996 toast can you let me back on
06:25 Boardmonster read that ^
06:25 speedrunnerG55 rdp?!
06:25 speedrunnerG55 why
06:25 lees-awesome YOU SCREWED MY COMPOOPER UP LEE (BTW I CANT TURN CAPS OFF)
06:26 lwq1996 because you shut the program nd hit the caps
06:26 Toastfire Lol
06:26 LinuxH4x0r HOLD DOWN SHIFT!!!
06:26 Toastfire Why'd you have caps on?
06:26 speedrunnerG55 BECAUSE CAPS IF FUN
06:26 lwq1996 open up the prgram again
06:26 Toastfire No, It still doesn't work
06:26 speedrunnerG55 lol jk
06:27 Toastfire LinuxH4x0r: Shift doesn't work
06:27 lwq1996 toast open up teamviewer
06:27 speedrunnerG55 bye everyone
06:27 speedrunnerG55 :)
06:27 lwq1996 night speed
06:27 Toastfire Bye speedrunnerG55!
06:27 lwq1996 toastfire open up teamviewer
06:27 Boardmonster bye speed
06:28 speedrunnerG55 b3d time
06:28 lwq1996 toastfire.....
06:28 lees-awesome 3750
06:29 lees-awesome Hi
06:29 lees-awesome im awesome
06:29 AgCNO6 Lol
06:29 lees-awesome hehe
06:30 Toastfire Boardmonster: Thank you for the new name :D
06:30 Boardmonster of course.
06:30 Boardmonster mind you, i own you now.
06:32 AgCNO6 Not anymore :P
06:32 Boardmonster hey, the branding is permanent.
06:32 AgCNO6 Aw...
06:32 Boardmonster because, you know, fire.
06:32 AgCNO6 Oh well
06:32 Boardmonster not that it makes any difference.
06:32 Boardmonster just know.
06:32 AgCNO6 Lol
06:37 Toastfire Hi
06:43 Boardmonster okay, that's kind of awesome.
06:43 Boardmonster http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/183733_1456814598666_1782412616_820554_5505932_n.jpg
06:44 Toastfire Lol
06:44 Boardmonster who can tell me what's wrong with this picture
06:45 Toastfire He has a soda can
06:45 Toastfire ?
06:45 Boardmonster no.
06:45 Toastfire Monster can...
06:45 lwq1996 damn beat me
06:45 Toastfire No smoking?
06:45 Boardmonster the full stack of medals on his chest...
06:46 Boardmonster ...plus the two hash marks
06:46 Boardmonster the two yellow bars lower on his sleeve, by his elbow
06:46 Boardmonster which means he's been in the USMC for at least 8 years
06:47 Boardmonster which is why i'm not sure what to think about this guy being a lance corporal
06:47 Boardmonster which, fyi, is one paygrade above private first class.
06:52 Boardmonster ie been in the corps a long time, with lots of merit awards, but is still very low rank for that much experience.
06:52 Toastfire Private First Class is a low rank right?
06:53 Boardmonster E-1 (enlisted pay-grade 1) is Private, which has no insignia at all
06:53 Boardmonster E-2 is PFC, which has a chevron consisting of a single upward-pointing bar
06:54 Boardmonster E-3 is Lance Cpl, which is 1-up with the crossed rifles in the middle, which is the insignia he's wearing on that uniform.
06:54 Boardmonster this, mind you, is out of a maximum of E-9 (Sergeant Major)
06:55 Toastfire Wow...
06:56 Boardmonster after 8+ years of highly-meritorious service you would kind of expect to be higher than an E-3.
06:57 lwq1996 night all...buy
06:57 Toastfire Bye lwq1996
06:57 Boardmonster LIQUID
06:57 Boardmonster bye
06:57 toastdude_lee Bye lwq1996
06:58 lwq1996 bye kate monster buy the two toasts
06:58 Bye_Lee .
06:58 Toastfire F***** Horseflies...
06:59 Toastfire Lol
07:00 Toastfire They bit me a lot today... And is 8 years a long time to get higher than E-3?
07:01 Boardmonster it's not impossible to get E-4 or E-5 by the time you're allowed to quit at 4 years
07:03 Toastfire Ok
07:04 Toastfire I don't really know anything about this stuff...
07:05 Boardmonster well for one thing it's not technically rank, it's paygrade.  the reason they do that is because different rank titles have different paygrades in the different branches
07:06 Toastfire Ok. And you were in the Military?
07:06 Boardmonster nope.
07:07 Boardmonster example: an O-3 (officer paygrade 3) in the navy is equivalent to an O-3 in the army, and an O-5 in the navy is equivalent to and O-5 in the army
07:07 Boardmonster but a captain in the army is an O-3 while a captain in the navy is an O-6
07:07 Toastfire Oh, you were in the corps
07:08 Boardmonster no.  and the corps is part of the military.
07:08 Toastfire You said you were in the corps a long time...
07:08 Katemonster i said no such thing.
07:09 Toastfire "ie been in the corps a long time, with lots of merit awards, but is still very low rank for that much experience."
07:09 Katemonster ie means for example
07:09 Katemonster silly
07:10 Toastfire I thought it was a typo for I've... Sorry
07:10 Katemonster actually IE means "that is" while EG means "for example", but i prefer IE
07:11 Katemonster you have very little understanding of how the military is structured, huh.
07:11 Toastfire Yep
07:12 Toastfire I'm only 13 too...
07:12 Katemonster i thought you were 14
07:12 Katemonster and yet you're still more mature than LWQ.
07:12 Toastfire LOL
07:12 Toastfire Thanks
07:13 Katemonster "the military" breaks into five different and completely separate but equal/parallel branches: Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard
07:13 Toastfire I know that much
07:14 Katemonster the Marines are kind of special because they are strictly a fighting force; they have no medical staff and no chaplains, they rely on the navy for that (and transportation)
07:14 Katemonster which is why some people insist that the marines are a component of the navy, but that's not really true.
07:17 Toastfire Do the Marines go on the aircraft carriers?
07:18 Katemonster then basically within any branch you can be either enlisted (E- paygrades) or a commissioned officer (O- paygrades)
07:18 Katemonster the navy also has warrant officers with W-2 through W-5 paygrades, but i'm still not sure how warrant officers fit into the grand scheme of things other than that they are in-between enlisted and officers
07:22 Katemonster but like i was saying, command structure is based on paygrade rather than rank, because a captain in the army is equivalent to a lieutenant in the navy, while a captain in the navy is equivalent to a colonel in the army, and the navy has admirals instead of generals, and etc etc etc
07:22 Katemonster and yes, they do
07:22 Katemonster not primarily
07:22 Katemonster but there are marine fighter squadrons flying the F/A-18 Hornet from navy aircraft carriers
07:23 Katemonster (sorry, i didn't see your question at first.)
07:23 Toastfire Lol
07:24 Katemonster some people get confused on exactly what the marines do vs. the army
07:24 Toastfire They fly the F/A-18's? Hmm..
07:24 Katemonster obviously the air force does nothing but aircraft and the navy is mostly ships and ship-based aircraft
07:25 Katemonster the army is a land occupation force, tanks and attack helicopters and etc
07:25 Katemonster the marines are similar in scope to the army, but the entire reason they exist is for rapid-deployment
07:26 Toastfire But the Navy uses aircraft more than the Air Force...
07:26 Katemonster no they don't
07:26 Toastfire My brother is in the army...
07:26 Toastfire Oh, I thought they did
07:26 Katemonster in sheer numbers, the USAF has waaaaay more F-16s and F-15s and the Navy has hornets
07:26 Katemonster and generally operate larger and more specialized aircraft
07:27 Toastfire F-35?
07:27 Katemonster most of the other branches call them the chair-force and see them as not much more than airborn bus-drivers, that is until they really, really need some help from an AC-130 or an A-10
07:27 Katemonster the F-35 is a joke
07:28 Katemonster i hope so badly that they kill off that entire project
07:28 Toastfire Why?
07:28 Katemonster do you know the original purpose of the JSF project?
07:29 Toastfire To see which company could make a better fighter for all of the different branches of Military?
07:30 Katemonster summarized: "we want you to build us a fighter/attack aircraft that can replace the F-15C, F-16, F/A-18, A-10, and the AV-8B Harrier; it has to be able to do everything that all of those other planes can do, including STOVL capabilities to replace the harrier.  and by the way, we don't want to pay you anything for it."
07:30 Katemonster they want everything for nothing
07:31 Katemonster i do see the appeal of having all the branches use common equipment (like we do with rifles and pistols) but in every other way the F-35 is a bad idea.
07:31 Toastfire Oh, that....
07:33 Katemonster the F/A-18 is very, very good at what it was designed to do.  the F-15C and F-15E are very, very good at what they are designed to do.  the harrier is very, very good at what it was designed to do.  the A-10 is very, very good at what it was designed for.
07:33 Toastfire Is the Y/F-22 good?
07:33 Katemonster the F-35 is supposed to be able to do everything that those other 5 aircraft can do.  result: jack of all trades, master of none.  very poor performance in each individual role.
07:33 Katemonster it's just the F-22.  the Y-designator means prototype
07:34 Toastfire I guess I'm just used to saying Y/F....
07:34 Katemonster and it's okay.  it's a good performer but the low radar cross-section ("stealth") characteristics are overrated and it doesn't carry nearly as much ordnance as the F-15
07:35 Katemonster it's also much more expensive, and we aren't fighting or in danger of fighting anyone with fighter technology even approaching ours, so there's no reason for it.  that's why they terminated the contract, and rightfully so.
07:36 Toastfire Yeah, $22 million is a bit expensive
07:36 Katemonster fighters are expensive in general
07:36 Toastfire For something almost pointless
07:36 Katemonster that's what's still so cool about being a fighter pilot
07:37 Katemonster when you think about how much goes into building the damn thing
07:37 Toastfire All the details were thought up by a group of people
07:37 Toastfire Pretty cool still...
07:37 Toastfire I think
07:38 Katemonster hundreds of millions of dollars and millions of man-hours of labor, massive quantities of aluminum and titanium and stainless steel and magnesium, hundreds of thousands of moving parts all machined to very precision tolerances, the most advanced electronics in the world...
07:38 Katemonster and as the pilot, the gov't is putting all of that into *your* control.
07:39 Katemonster it kind of blows my mind.
07:39 Toastfire I would be intimidated to be a fighter pilot not only for the obvious reason, but to break the thing...
07:40 Katemonster there's no way these things could exist in the private sector due to the the sheer resources required to build them, but it still comes down to just one person with a lot of training at the controls.
07:41 Toastfire True, most private people that I know of only have things like F-86's
07:42 Katemonster well, they train the hell out of you to make sure you're not going to screw up and break it.  at that point it requires an act of exceptional stupidity to do so, and in most cases if it's an honest shit-happens accident it's not like the're going to just fire you; you'll get in trouble, yeah, but they spent $100k training your ass, and if they replace you the're replacing you with someone...
07:42 Katemonster ...who hasn't learned the lesson from that mistake.
07:43 Katemonster well, but even then, the F-86s at the time they were built were a marvel of technology and were something that could only come into existence with the vision of several very clever engineers and the financial backing of a HUGE corporation or a superpower government
07:43 Toastfire True, youre still valuable to them
07:43 Katemonster give me a machine shop and a few days and i can turn out a few hundred decent infantry rifles
07:43 Toastfire Lol, seriously?
07:44 Katemonster but if i were to say "i'm going to build an F-15 by myself" i would be both broke and dead before i got it 5% finished
07:44 Katemonster (granted i'm already broke but that's not my point)
07:46 Toastfire Plus you couldn't if you really wanted to... You would need a ton of resources to get stuff like plans...
07:47 Katemonster well it can be planned out easily enough, the technology for something like that is now *already there* fortunately, but yeah that was my point with resources.  materials... and time
07:48 Katemonster but... like...
07:48 Toastfire Yeah... Sadly its not very easy...
07:48 Katemonster it's hard to get a sense of scale when you see something flying along up in the sky
07:49 Katemonster here's an F-15 http://www.military-today.com/aircraft/f15_eagle.jpg
07:49 Katemonster my dad worked on these (a civilian engineer in charge or reliability at the company that built the radar systems for them) for over 20 years
07:49 Katemonster but you look at that and it's hard to wrap your head around how big it actually is
07:50 Katemonster http://www.sheppard.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/web/100723-F-6483C-049.JPG
07:50 Toastfire Like an SU-27, I think. They look normal, but they're absolutely huge
07:50 Katemonster http://www.aviationspectator.com/files/images/F-15E-Strike-Eagle-178.jpg
07:50 Katemonster ^ person sitting inside the engine exhaust ductwork
07:50 Toastfire Oh wow... It does seem a bit smaller when its flying
07:51 Katemonster http://home.hiwaay.net/~craigg/g4c/lakenheath-fighter.jpg
07:51 Katemonster huge machines.
07:52 Katemonster now, just the airframe itself, no engines no weapons no radar, this thing is tens of thousands of individual parts welded and riveted together from aluminum, magnesium, stainless steel, and titanium
07:52 Katemonster it takes a couple years to build one from scratch
07:53 Katemonster now the whole plane assembled weighs 14 tons; that's without fuel or weapons or pilot
07:54 Katemonster it burns hundreds of gallons of kerosene per minute to keep itself in the air
07:54 Toastfire That seems too heavy to be agile enough to fly like it does...
07:54 Katemonster each engine by itself has more individual parts than the whole rest of the plane
07:55 Katemonster and yet the maximum g-force limits on the F-15 air-frame are something like +15 -9 (compared to the F-16's +9 -5)
07:55 Katemonster it can push itself along at over 1600mph
07:56 Toastfire I didn't know it could go over Mach 2...
07:56 Katemonster with a full load of external weapons it can't
07:56 Katemonster but empty it can
07:57 Katemonster actually the F-15 was the first american military aircraft with a thrust-to-weight ratio greater than 1.0, which technically means it doesn't need wings to fly; the engine power can lift the entire weight of the plane straight up in the air at over mach 1 without any help from the wings
07:57 Katemonster it's like flying a ballistic missile
07:57 LinuxH4x0r damn
07:58 LinuxH4x0r thats impressive
07:58 Katemonster the radar system in a modern F-15 can see 200 miles in any weather, and can identify different kinds of aircraft specifically based on the radar return signatures
07:58 Katemonster that's impressive in both software and hardware
07:58 LinuxH4x0r http://santafe.craigslist.org/sys/2520721070.html opinions?
07:58 LinuxH4x0r looking at making a carputer for my suburban
07:58 Katemonster it's a computer?
07:58 LinuxH4x0r aye
07:59 * Katemonster knows about that much about computers
07:59 LinuxH4x0r I'm pretty sure this one has an external 12v adaptor
07:59 LinuxH4x0r should make car wiring easier
07:59 Katemonster that it should
07:59 LinuxH4x0r I decided another shitty stereo isn't worth it
07:59 LinuxH4x0r just need a 12v regulator
07:59 LinuxH4x0r should be easy enough to build
08:00 Katemonster toast: http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/media/militaryaviation1946-2006cutaways/images/12057/mcdonnell-douglas-f-15a-eagle-cutaway.jpg
08:01 Toastfire :O
08:01 Toastfire Thats a lot of parts...
08:01 LinuxH4x0r purdy!
08:02 * LinuxH4x0r is a mechanical engineering student
08:02 Katemonster so that's just the airframe
08:02 Katemonster here's a cutaway of the engine http://www.pw.utc.com/media_center/images_library/images/f100_cutaway_high.jpg
08:02 Toastfire Turbofan!
08:03 Katemonster low-bypass high-performance turbofan, yes
08:03 Toastfire Good LinuxH4x0r !
08:03 LinuxH4x0r this stuff is better than porn
08:03 LinuxH4x0r :P
08:03 Katemonster this is why the very existence of these things blows my mind.
08:04 Katemonster no individual or group of individuals could build such a thing
08:04 Katemonster it is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay outside the scope of most corporations
08:05 Katemonster the whole thing is just daunting
08:05 Katemonster it takes the government saying "we don't care how complex and insanely expensive it is, we are going to pay you to build it, and you're going to build it"
08:06 Katemonster so you have mcdonnell douglas that builds the airframe, the engines are built by pratt & whitney, all the electronics are from hughes aircraft company, and those three companies sub-contract a lot of the parts to hundreds of other smaller companies (OEMs)
08:07 Sgt_Lemming so... 8 hours later
08:07 Katemonster and once upon a time, NONE of this was, by law, allowed to be built outside the US.
08:07 Katemonster lol
08:07 Sgt_Lemming the hackerspace is CLEAN
08:08 Katemonster all these forces of money and materials and scientific knowledge and labor-power come together and put this thing together over three years of non-stop work out of millions of individual parts
08:09 Sgt_Lemming all built by the lowest bidder
08:09 Katemonster didn't used to be that way
08:09 LinuxH4x0r not when you only get one bid
08:09 LinuxH4x0r lol
08:09 LinuxH4x0r its not like just anyone can build them
08:10 Katemonster before the clinton administration, there were standards in place that said obviously yes we want a reasonable price on them, but you WILL build them to the required quality, or we will find someone else to build them
08:10 Katemonster and they HAVE to be made in the US
08:10 Katemonster now, neither of those two things are true.
08:11 Katemonster but at the end of it all, after all those billions of hours of manpower and billions of dollars, the government tells some schmuck who just graduated from college with an engineering degree "you are going to fly this for us.  we are going to train you to do it, and we are going to pay you very handsomely for it, but you are going to fly it."
08:13 Katemonster that's an insane amount of power and responsibility
08:14 Katemonster and i do not believe that unmanned stuff will ever completely replace the fighter pilot
08:16 Katemonster and... honestly i've forgotten what my original point was and am just wet thinking about it.
08:16 Toastfire That the F-35 program is pointless
08:17 Katemonster oh yeah.
08:17 Toastfire Lol
08:17 Sgt_Lemming F35 has some cool features
08:18 Toastfire Actually, that there is something wrong with this:  http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/183733_1456814598666_1782412616_820554_5505932_n.jpg
08:18 Sgt_Lemming but a jack of all trades, is always a master of none
08:18 Katemonster the F-35 sucks because they didn't want to put any money into development, and the quality standards have been thrown out in the interest of cost savings, and they want it to be capable of doing everything which means it's not actually *good* at doing anything
08:18 Katemonster what's that toast
08:18 Toastfire Look
08:19 Katemonster i can't tell if he's holding a cigarette or not, but it kind of looks like he is.
08:19 Katemonster maybe that's why he's still an E-3 after 8 years.
08:19 Toastfire Lol
08:19 Toastfire Cause he smokes in no smoking areas?
08:20 Katemonster yes.
08:20 Katemonster i have to assume he was at some point higher than E-3 and then got busted down.
08:21 Toastfire How do you do that?
08:21 Katemonster by smoking in non-smoking areas.
08:21 Katemonster or by generally fucking up.
08:21 Katemonster or because your CO is having a bad day
08:22 Katemonster it still boggles the mind.
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08:23 Katemonster i also find something vaguely amusing about wearing the class A dress blues and drinking a monster.
08:24 Sgt_Lemming sigh, two big f'ing pimples on the back of my neck
08:24 Thermoelectric Pop em.
08:24 Katemonster class A dress uniform is for fancy ceremonies and dinner parties and you're not allowed to wear them on leave/liberty
08:26 Katemonster that actually might be his barracks cover he's holding.
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08:28 Katemonster you fell off.
08:28 Toastfire Yeah...
08:28 Katemonster i said that might be his barracks cover he'd holding
08:29 Toastfire BotSteve: Should I go now?
08:29 BotSteve Nope
08:29 Toastfire Damn...
08:30 Katemonster you should go now.
08:30 Katemonster i should go now.
08:30 Katemonster if i don't go to sleep i'll spend all night here rambling about the military.
08:30 Katemonster :(
08:31 Toastfire It's okay, your rambling is interesting
08:31 Toastfire Lol
08:31 Katemonster if you say so.
08:32 Toastfire BotSteve: Should Katemonster and I go now?
08:32 BotSteve Oh yeah!
08:32 Toastfire Lol, fine...
08:32 Katemonster derp
08:32 Katemonster night toast
08:32 Katemonster night anyone else who's still here.
08:32 Toastfire Night Katemonster
08:32 Toastfire Night Sgt_Lemming
08:32 Sgt_Lemming night
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12:10 Hydroelectric "Minecraft failed to open due to an OpenGL error. Please update your graphics card driver." --> Oh the joy.
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12:56 * Ponko wonders if he's even there
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13:01 wannabe1987 hi SparkyProjects
13:01 * Ponko is sitting and waiting
13:01 wannabe1987 Ponko whyt?
13:01 wannabe1987 why*?
13:01 SparkyProjects Hi :)
13:01 Ponko because i can
13:04 Ponko hmmmm
13:05 wannabe1987 hm?
13:05 wannabe1987 i have a puppy laying next to me :D  a fluffy, non-max puppy
13:05 Ponko i wanna play Sim City 4
13:05 Ponko i would play Sim City 2000
13:06 Ponko but my laptop isn't compatible with it
13:06 Ponko because SC2000 needs a win 95 or win 3.1 to run
13:06 Ponko or use XP it works fine
13:09 Vladdeh tried dosbox?
13:09 * wannabe1987 has XP :D
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13:12 Ponko the thought had occured Vladdeh but i can never bloody seem to get it to work
13:12 Ponko lol
13:14 [Python] .hello.world.
13:15 Ponko hello Monty
13:17 * [Python] hands ponko a plate of spam !
13:18 Ponko I DON'T LIKE SPAM
13:18 Ponko spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam LOVELY SPAM WONDERFUL SPAM
13:18 Ponko SHUT UP
13:18 Ponko SHUT UP
13:18 [Python] lol
13:18 Ponko Bloody Vikings
13:18 wannabe1987 spam spam spam spam eggs and spam
13:19 Ponko spam egg spam spam spam baked beans spam spam & spam
13:19 Ponko beans are off
13:38 Ponko Mr Madison what you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things i have ever heard, everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it, may god have mercy on your soul
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14:11 wannabe1987 http://www.wzzm13.com/rss/article/174658/14/GRNowcom--The-Geek-Group
14:15 Ponko alright Lightman maybe you could tell us who first suggested the idea of reproduction without sex.
14:15 Ponko ummm your wife?
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14:36 Mashpriborintorg yay using a real irc client
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14:45 masterofmonks Head count?
14:45 Ponko head count for what?
14:46 masterofmonks People actually alive/awake
14:46 Ponko i'm alive
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14:48 Mashpriborintorg So do I
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14:49 speed-mobile Hello
14:49 speed-mobile >_>
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14:51 Seroster Ohai speed
14:54 Ponko hai everybody
14:57 * speed-mobile pokes Seroster with a stick
14:57 Seroster WAT
14:57 speed-mobile Hi
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15:25 Ponko is everyone dying or is it just me?
15:27 Seroster FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuH3dWHipKI&amp;NR=1&amp;feature=fvwp
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15:28 Seroster Oh yeah, solder wick is braided solder! Makes sense! DIIE! DIE OF EVERY DISEASE KNOWN TO MAN!
15:28 Seroster I can't blame him for being stupid, his parents are siblings after all, but if you are that damn stupid you shouldnt claim to be a fucking EXPERT :@
15:29 Ponko lol
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15:31 SparkyProjects By the time he got rid of the solder, the component would have been melted, no good if you are salvaging components for re-use
15:31 SparkyProjects Use a solder sucker
15:31 Seroster Yeah
15:31 Seroster He's an idiot.
15:32 SparkyProjects Most people who post on expert village are idiots :P
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15:32 Ponko thats why i listen to ACTUAL experts
15:32 BatSteve Most people on the internet are idiots.
15:32 Sasha_ Oh hai guys. Anyone here used Fiverr.com before?
15:32 BatSteve no, what is it?
15:32 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRH2bgnAF8Q&amp;feature=relmfu
15:32 Sasha_ Its a place where you can get plenty of things done for 5$
15:32 Seroster That is the best case of idiotville
15:33 Seroster What he calls a good weld is what is referred to "crap"
15:33 SparkyProjects Resistor colour COATS and OMES :P
15:33 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ0LPzWcdj0&amp;NR=1
15:33 BatSteve also, brb
15:33 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRP1LoJusyM this guy who i've never heard of
15:33 Seroster lol SparkyProjects
15:34 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bFa7adgSfc or Joe Montana the Comeback King
15:34 Ponko i think i'll take the 4th best player in the NFL over that bloke from EV
15:35 Ponko best player of ALL TIME*
15:35 Seroster SparkyProjects, I know how colour codes work. But even thou I know how it works that jackass manages to confuse me.
15:37 Ponko Seroster this guy makes throwing a football look SOO complicated Joe just says what to do and its simple
15:37 Ponko ok not the same thing but still
15:38 SparkyProjects He got the codes right, but if he was an expert, he wouldn't need to look online :P
15:38 Seroster Yep
15:39 Ponko man i'd rather watch Sparky do that than this guy
15:40 Ponko and i'm talking about the solder
15:40 BatSteve mm grits
15:40 Ponko lol BatSteve grits are tasty
15:41 Ponko the potato kind anyway
15:41 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_NU2ruzyc4&amp;feature=related < great guide
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15:43 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_gtjpdyLak
15:43 SparkyProjects 50 seconds of heat to remove a diode ? O.O
15:44 Seroster HOLY SHIT
15:44 Sasha_ Speaking of heat, how much of it do you need in order to melt some headphone cable to a 3.5 jack?
15:45 Seroster Eh? Whatcha mean?
15:45 SparkyProjects In one of his vids he removed a resistor to test it, if he were doing the same with that diode, he may as well just cut it out and use a new diode (if he doesn't overheat the new one putting it back)
15:46 Seroster SparkyProjects, That is insanely stupid... When desoldering 2 lead components - Push the component to one side while heating one leg. That leg pops out. Turn the board upside down, heat the other leg and the component falls out. Shouldnt take more than four seconds per leg
15:47 SparkyProjects Sasha, watch the vid Seroster posted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_NU2ruzyc4
15:47 SparkyProjects That's how to solder, you need good heat and fluxed solder.
15:48 Ponko BatSteve who would you have tell you to fly a plane a guy from expert village or Christopher Lee
15:48 Seroster Eh
15:48 Seroster I'd rather put my cat in the pilot seat than someone from tardville
15:49 SparkyProjects If i don't use the sucker, i just put a small screwdriver under one end of the component, it acts as a heatsink and a lever that pulls one end out
15:49 Ponko Chris Lee was in the RAF aswell
15:49 Ponko during the second world war
15:49 BatSteve That doesn't necessarily mean that he knows how to fly, however
15:49 Sasha_ Do suckers actually work? I've never had mine suck anything. BTW, watching the vid now.
15:49 Ponko he flew in the RAF
15:50 Seroster Sasha_, Solder suckers?
15:50 Seroster Avoid the ones with metal cases, they get oval in a hurry and lose their vacuum.
15:50 Seroster A good rule of thumb is that if you put the sucker on your skin and depress the button the pump should move half way up and then stop (or slowly move to the top)
15:51 Ponko but he had to drop out so that would be a bad idea
15:51 Seroster If you are having problems with your sucker you can pick it apart and put some grease on the O-rings around the piston. That seals it up.
15:51 SparkyProjects Yep, suckers work, when the solder is fluid, make a good seal  on the solder and press the button
15:51 SparkyProjects Keep the tip of the sucker clear
15:51 SparkyProjects A test of suction is to put your finger on the end and press the button
15:52 SparkyProjects heh, seroster knows the trick too :D
15:52 Ponko brb
15:52 Seroster Don't make a perfect seal to the board tho!
15:53 SparkyProjects btw, i have a metal case sucker, had it for years and it still works
15:53 Seroster SparkyProjects, I've had at least 4 crappy ones that all got oval
15:53 SparkyProjects The idea is to suck the solder from the hole in the board
15:53 Seroster Then I got an antistatic one, plastic/teflon and that is round n nice
15:55 SparkyProjects I don't like the modern ones with the sheild round the piston rod
15:55 Seroster Sasha_, And, my favourite Sparkie tip EVER!: If you haven't got a soldering tip a piece of heavy gauge copper wire works in a pinch.
15:55 Seroster Waitwhat?
15:55 Seroster I hate the ones that have the spring in the solder chamber, they get angry in a hurry
15:57 Sasha_ Well thats why I suck at soldering :P
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15:59 Sasha_ I always used the finest tip, never tinned the tip, and rarely cleaned it :P
16:01 tlockley what is the point of tinning/cleaning solder tips?
16:01 Sasha_ So that they don't oxidize, apparently
16:02 tlockley interesting
16:04 SparkyProjects I tin the tip just before i apply heat to a component, it helps with heat transfer
16:05 SparkyProjects That's why that 'expert' took so long to heat the component
16:05 Seroster tlockley, So the solder doesnt just run off like a chicken shit
16:05 Seroster =P
16:05 tlockley I get it.
16:05 SparkyProjects and this is my sucker http://i54.tinypic.com/2q40emp.jpg
16:05 Seroster Holy shit sparkie
16:06 tlockley that looks a little beat up, though I assume it has lasted a while
16:06 Seroster Thing o beuaty!
16:06 SparkyProjects Notice the spring is behind the piston
16:06 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:
16:06 BotSteve Captain's Blog 8 6 11 Heavy Equipment Fun and Pressurewashing Raccoon Poo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_eviiRd6p0
16:06 Seroster Yeah, that is the best arrangement
16:06 SparkyProjects I've had that for about 30 years
16:06 tlockley damn
16:07 Seroster Oh, I thought it was the one you stole while you were overviewing the plans for the titanic?
16:07 * SparkyProjects watches blog
16:07 tlockley whick blog?
16:07 Seroster Its not very interesting today SparkyProjects
16:07 Seroster tlockley, the captains vlog
16:09 mashpriborintorg yeah, no brunette this time
16:09 Seroster Huh, mashpriborintorg ?
16:09 mashpriborintorg see the previous oen, with the camper demolition
16:10 tlockley yah, so many wasps nests
16:11 mashpriborintorg btw I would like to know that they are willing to go with the camper
16:11 Sasha_ My solder sucker is made by Jie La Hua...
16:12 Seroster mashpriborintorg, eh?
16:13 mashpriborintorg they did strip  down the insides of a camper yesterday, and now they are washing it
16:13 tlockley mashpriborintorg: apparently they are prepping it for some off the grid event or something.
16:13 Sasha_ Interesting.... NOT :P
16:13 mashpriborintorg mobile lab maybe
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16:14 speedrunnerG55 Hi mashedpotatoes
16:14 SparkyProjects I think this http://www.juggalogathering.com
16:14 SparkyProjects And yeah, i would guess some sort of promotional vehicle
16:14 Toastfire Hi BatSteve
16:15 BatSteve wow, I actually have a day off of work!  woo!
16:15 Sasha_ Hmmm.... Portable Tesla Coil...
16:15 mashpriborintorg oh hai
16:15 Toastfire Mashed potatoes?
16:15 BatSteve hi Toastfire!
16:15 BatSteve I like the nick
16:15 Seroster TOASTDEWD! YAY!
16:16 Toastfire Thanks :) Katemonster came up with it :P
16:16 Toastfire Seroster!
16:16 SparkyProjects Maybe they'll be taking a few of the small demo's from the cafe, including a tabletop tesla, fusor, ring launcher etc
16:16 Seroster Swoody
16:16 mashpriborintorg yeah could be for a mobile science lab for showing stuff in schools, public area and so on
16:16 Toastfire I want to build a fusor sometime...
16:16 Seroster But seriously... A box truck.
16:17 mashpriborintorg Captain's secret project for now
16:17 Seroster Toastfire, Have you made a tc yet?
16:17 Sasha_ Brown is hot, Blue is neutral, right?
16:17 Seroster Yes, Sasha_
16:17 Seroster But don't count on it
16:17 mashpriborintorg If I get an induction cooking table coil, I'll try a ringlauncher
16:17 Sasha_ Huh Seroster?
16:18 Toastfire Nope, but I'm probably gonna with my friend and ask the principal if we can do a small demo :P
16:18 Seroster Sasha, what kind of wall sockets you got?
16:18 Sasha_ Swiss ones
16:18 Seroster If you got shuko they have no polarity
16:18 SparkyProjects Sasha, that's correct if no one has wired it wrong
16:18 Seroster You can plug them in upside down if you want to
16:19 Seroster So if you are working in the end of an extension cable you've got 50% chance it is correct
16:19 speedrunnerG55 Mashpriborintorg: = mashed potatoes to me
16:19 Toastfire You can plug any a/c plug in "upside down" right?
16:19 SparkyProjects That's why i like the UK sockets
16:19 tlockley you can
16:19 Seroster Yes you can, Toastfire. It's AC, it doesnt care.
16:19 Toastfire Oh, speed
16:19 Toastfire I didn't think it did... Lol
16:20 Seroster Sasha_, And sometimes the neutral isnt neutral due to inductance n shit
16:20 Toastfire Seroster: I'm going to try to make a 24v tesla coil :D
16:20 SparkyProjects AC cares if you have a single pole switch on the appliance, you can think it's dead but it's not
16:20 Seroster And... No. Don't poke it unless you KNOW it's cold. But blue should be neutral. Brown should be hpt.
16:20 Seroster Toastfire, Great, about a nanometer long sparks? =)
16:21 Toastfire Input is 24v... out put is 10,000
16:21 Toastfire :P
16:21 Seroster Inverter?
16:21 Toastfire Resonance...
16:21 SparkyProjects Seroster, you can power a decent coil with 24 volts, just need to make it solid state, essentially an inverter
16:21 Toastfire It just takes a bit
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16:22 mashpriborintorg I watched some induction metal melting videos, great project idea too
16:22 Seroster Toastfire, Fusors are pretty complicated, I encourage you to try but its a bitch
16:22 Seroster mashpriborintorg, Also a pain in the ass =P
16:22 SparkyProjects Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dyam4Xz95O4
16:22 Toastfire Yeah, I'm going to wait until I know more anyway..
16:23 mashpriborintorg yes il seems to be tricky to do
16:23 Seroster Vaccuum chamber, vacuum pump, high voltage....
16:23 SparkyProjects Red hot ice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLwaPP9cxT4
16:23 Toastfire Seroster:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dyam4Xz95O4&amp;feature=related
16:23 Seroster Either of the three are tricky to work with. Add them all together...
16:23 Sasha_ If Chris saw the way I wire up my electronics, he would definately kill me :P
16:24 BatSteve Vaccuum chamber, vacuum pump, high voltage....just another night alone for Seroster
16:24 Seroster Ehm
16:24 BatSteve also, hi Seroster
16:24 BatSteve (:
16:24 Seroster Hi there
16:25 SparkyProjects BatSteve, a question
16:25 SparkyProjects If an autopilot crashes a plane, who is to blame ?
16:25 SparkyProjects We were talking about driverless cars and who would be responsible in an accident
16:26 BatSteve oh, that's easy
16:26 Sasha_ The driver :P
16:26 BatSteve the pilot in command has full and total responsibility for the safe conduct of the flight
16:26 Seroster Eh
16:26 Sasha_ Or the person responsible, I remember there was a plane crash because a teenager screwed up the autopilot
16:27 BatSteve Sasha_: incorrect.
16:27 SparkyProjects That's exactly what i thought
16:27 Seroster So if a mechanic fucks you in the ass it's your fault when the plane falls apart due to duct tape instead of rivets?
16:27 BatSteve Seroster: yes
16:27 BatSteve The final report will read something like this:
16:27 mashpriborintorg look at the AF447 crash, the pilots received a lot of false alarms, leading them to complete confusion
16:27 Seroster I wanna be an aerospace mechanic! =D
16:27 SparkyProjects A pilot should do the checks
16:27 Sasha_ Just like with taxes: if someone else prepares them for you, and screwes you over somehow, you're still responsible because they're YOUR taxes, and you signed them or something
16:28 BatSteve "The cause of the plane crash was due to the left wing falling off, due to it being held on by duct tape rather than rivets, and the pilot in command's failure to maintain control of the aircraft after the wing departed the fuselage"
16:28 Seroster Erm
16:28 BatSteve Doesn't matter that NOBODY could have kept the plane in the air, it's still the PIC's fault
16:28 Seroster Well, yeah. He lost half his fucking plane, well...
16:28 Toastfire Me too Seroster
16:28 Sasha_ Wasn't that the sea plane or something?
16:29 Seroster And Sasha_ If someone else fucks with my taxes I'll fuck them back, and I'll use salt instead of lube.
16:29 SparkyProjects OK, here's one for you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=819PArT-eek
16:29 SparkyProjects Who is responsible (i asked a garage owner about this one)
16:29 BatSteve and SparkyProjects, just to cover your statement too, it applies even if the pilot did all the checks
16:29 Seroster SparkyProjects, The idiot driver
16:30 Seroster If someone signals to you by waving franticallly and screaming it means you are doing something wrong
16:30 Sasha_ It's the video uploader's fault, he used a copyrighted song :P
16:30 SparkyProjects Seroster, Nope, the mechanic, he should have done the driving, or got another employee to drive while he directed
16:31 Seroster Company policy or law?
16:31 SparkyProjects A bit of both
16:32 SparkyProjects Law as in 'Health and Safety'
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16:34 Seroster Hey SparkyProjects, your solder pump
16:34 Seroster Single Oring?
16:34 Seroster Does it hold vacuum for long?
16:36 SparkyProjects Yep single (original) o-ring
16:36 SparkyProjects It stops about half way then goes slowly the rest of the way
16:37 Seroster O
16:37 Seroster HOLY CRAP!
16:38 Seroster That relay
16:38 Seroster Is 60 amps
16:38 Seroster '-'
16:38 SparkyProjects What relay ?
16:39 Toastfire This will never get old :D  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVF3iC_voyU&amp;feature=related
16:39 speedrunnerG55 >_>
16:40 Seroster Inside my pioneer DC z 81
16:41 Seroster 12VDC 8A/60A
16:42 Seroster "DG1U ASR1012-A" made by DEC
16:42 mashpriborintorg peak ratings probably
16:42 Seroster Still, 8amps cont
16:43 Seroster The xformer here is a beast too
16:43 SparkyProjects 8 Amps, with an 'inrush' of 60 Amps
16:43 Seroster Yup
16:43 Seroster I am almost sad to take it apart
16:46 Seroster Got a few fuses in it too
16:46 Seroster Will take a closer look soon, but I think they are 20+ amps
16:46 mashpriborintorg if it is not good old vintage hifi, it's not worth keeping
16:46 Seroster It IS
16:47 Seroster The kind of hifi that is so damn expensive that you rent it
16:47 Seroster It still got the sticker on the back
16:47 SparkyProjects Does it work ?
16:48 Seroster Nope
16:48 mashpriborintorg I tiik apart a monster Kenwood receiver amplifier some months ago
16:48 Seroster It's most definately fried
16:48 Seroster The power cord was ooff
16:48 Seroster The rib cable to the FM module was cut
16:48 Seroster Knobs were missing
16:48 Seroster Fuses blown
16:48 mashpriborintorg previous owner did put adhesive tape on the dial windows, it damaged it
16:49 SparkyProjects Seroster http://elektrotanya.com/pioneer_dc-z81_sch.pdf/download.html
16:49 SparkyProjects Supposed to be a manual, i can't seem to download
16:49 Seroster Replaced fuses and power cord, but the stereo chip was round.
16:49 mashpriborintorg Seroster: for free repair manuals, check eserviceinfo.com
16:50 mashpriborintorg it has lots and lots of manuals
16:50 Seroster O
16:50 Seroster /favs
16:50 speedrunnerG55 wannabe1987: U here?
16:50 Toastfire .seen lwq1996
16:50 BotSteve Toastfire: I last saw lwq1996 9.88 hours ago at 2011-08-07 06:58:02 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 16:50:37 UTC
16:50 mashpriborintorg but usually, the one you need is the one that is not available :p
16:50 Toastfire .seen wannabe1987
16:50 BotSteve Toastfire: I last saw wannabe1987 2.66 hours ago at 2011-08-07 14:11:08 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 16:50:45 UTC
16:50 Seroster But the problem here is I located the fault and I could fix it with a new chip, but I wont spend a few hundred bucks on a part that might fix this thing that I don't need
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17:00 Toastfire ...
17:03 speedrunnerG55 .seen |red|
17:03 BotSteve speedrunnerG55: I last saw |red| 283.68 hours ago at 2011-07-26 21:23:24 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 17:03:58 UTC
17:04 * speedrunnerG55 sigh
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17:16 Toastfire My sister says Hi
17:17 BatSteve hey Toastfire's sister
17:17 speedrunnerG55 !?
17:17 speedrunnerG55 Hi Toastdodes sister
17:23 SparkyProjects Hi Toastdudette
17:23 speedrunnerG55 Hi SparkyProjects
17:23 SparkyProjects Hi :0
17:23 SparkyProjects :)
17:24 speedrunnerG55 SparkyProjects: So i should get a fast hdd?
17:28 speedrunnerG55 ..............
17:28 Toastfire Does anyone know anyone from Pixar?
17:29 speedrunnerG55 No
17:29 BatSteve no
17:29 SparkyProjects That  really is your choice, fast yes, but whether to go solid state i don't know
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17:46 Toastfire Hi LinuxH4x0r
17:48 LinuxH4x0r hi
17:52 Seroster Oh yeah, epoxy is fucking awesom
17:58 wannabe1987 lol ok
17:59 Toastfire HI WANNABE1987!!!
17:59 wannabe1987 toastfire?
18:00 wannabe1987 careful, you'll burn
18:00 wannabe1987 hi
18:00 wannabe1987 speedrunnerG55
18:01 Toastfire I'm on fire!
18:01 Toastfire Lol
18:02 wannabe1987 o.O
18:02 wannabe1987 why
18:02 Toastfire Katemonster made it up...
18:02 speedrunnerG55 wannabe1987: !!!
18:02 speedrunnerG55 :D
18:03 wannabe1987 :)
18:07 Toastfire What's up wannabe?
18:07 wannabe1987 not much
18:07 wannabe1987 eating puppy chow again :D
18:07 Toastfire lucky... :D
18:11 Toastfire BatSteve: Do you play any flight videogames?
18:11 BatSteve No, not really.
18:12 Toastfire Ever played Ace Combat though?
18:12 BatSteve I have not
18:12 BatSteve Oh wait
18:12 BatSteve I take that back
18:12 BatSteve Crimson Skies
18:12 BatSteve I love that game
18:12 Toastfire Okay :)
18:12 Toastfire You should play Ace Combat 5
18:12 Toastfire Its epic
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18:15 BatSteve What's it all about?
18:15 BatSteve Modern?  World war 2?
18:15 Toastfire Hi [Python]
18:16 Toastfire 2010, about a squadron of pilots from Sand Island in the country "Osea" fighting against "Yuktobania"
18:17 BatSteve huh, interesting
18:18 BatSteve What sort of aircraft does it feature?
18:18 Toastfire F-5's to Su-47's
18:18 Toastfire Everything in between
18:19 BatSteve nice
18:19 BatSteve what platform?
18:19 Toastfire F/A-18, F-22, Migs
18:19 Toastfire PS2
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18:19 BatSteve darn, don't have a PS2
18:19 BatSteve I have a 3 through
18:19 BatSteve *though
18:19 BatSteve wonder if it would work
18:20 * wannabe1987 has a 3 also (well, drew does but i use it)
18:20 Toastfire If you have the conversion thing
18:23 Toastfire Here's the trailer:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjuLmlXrjmA&amp;feature=relmfu
18:25 Toastfire It's the first Ace Combat to have a good storyline...
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18:26 Toastfire Hi Katemonster
18:26 Katemonster whyamiawake
18:26 Katemonster lettheworldburn
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18:26 Katemonster -_-
18:26 Toastfire Idk, why are you?
18:26 wannabe1987 go back to sleep?
18:26 Katemonster can't.
18:27 wannabe1987 sucks
18:27 Sasha-iPhone Guys, how do I use this? http://pics.roomsapp.mobi/MRi6N9YE2v
18:27 Toastfire whydoyouwanttheworldtoburn?
18:27 Katemonster oh well.  I WANT THIS TATTOOED ON MY BODY.  http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/2148/doomydoom.jpg
18:27 Katemonster ...brb...
18:27 Toastfire You're a bit random today...
18:27 wannabe1987 Sasha-iPhone what is it?
18:28 wannabe1987 Katemonster get the tat.  where would you put it?
18:28 Sasha-iPhone Seems to be a Cu/Al heatsink
18:30 * wannabe1987 is bored. gonna pack and then start to load up the car, head home. gotta pick up the dog tho
18:31 mashpriborintorg ho hai bored wannabe1987
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18:31 wannabe1987 hi mashpriborintorg
18:32 Sasha-iPhone Hi mashpriborintorg
18:32 Toastfire Hi mashpriborintorg
18:33 mashpriborintorg hi, hi
18:33 Sasha-iPhone Hi wannabe1987
18:33 Sasha-iPhone Hi Toastfire
18:33 Toastfire Hi Sasha-iPhone
18:33 Sasha-iPhone Hi Toastfire
18:35 * Katemonster back
18:36 Katemonster wannabe1987: on the left side of my back; the upper right back/shoulder is already reserved for something else.
18:37 Katemonster idk though.  it could be an arm or leg tat.
18:37 Katemonster i don't want any arm tats though.
18:39 * wannabe1987 brings the hose to put Toastfire's fire out
18:40 Katemonster don't do that. i bestowed that name and fire on him last night.
18:41 wannabe1987 see, i asked why he was on fire and he never responded, so i didn't kno
18:41 wannabe1987 i went to bed, member?
18:41 Katemonster nope.
18:42 Katemonster http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l4y229bwLS1qaczsco1_500.jpg
18:42 wannabe1987 you were sleepymonster then
18:42 Katemonster that's probably why then.
18:42 Katemonster later on i turned into Monstermonster.  you must not have been there for that.
18:43 wannabe1987 i saw monstermonster
18:43 Toastfire wannabe1987: I told you that Katemonster gave me that name
18:43 wannabe1987 but then  i went to sleep, shutting the lappy lid
18:43 wannabe1987 i didn't see that, sorry toast
18:43 Toastfire [11:16] <Toastfire> Thanks :) Katemonster came up with it :P
18:43 Toastfire Lol
18:43 Katemonster it's his transformer name.
18:43 wannabe1987 yeah.  i musta been walking downstairs at that time
18:43 wannabe1987 do i get one?
18:44 Katemonster i'll think about it.
18:44 Katemonster he turns into a toaster though.
18:44 wannabe1987 of course he does!
18:44 wannabe1987 it wouldn't be right otherwise
18:45 Katemonster http://farm1.static.flickr.com/233/446443284_44c0bb1f61.jpg
18:45 Toastfire And silver fulminate
18:45 wannabe1987 ic
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18:49 egrsteve g' morning all
18:49 Toastfire Hello egrsteve
18:49 Katemonster STEVE
18:49 Katemonster HEY
18:50 * egrsteve grabs fire extingasher for toastude
18:50 Sasha-iPhone My friend who thinks he's a photographer is now looking for the camera with the highest amount of pixels…
18:50 Seroster Making a new 500watt ballast bank, yay.
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18:50 Sasha-iPhone Oh and hai egrsteve, been a while
18:50 egrsteve that it has
18:50 Sasha-iPhone Oh and also hai injektion
18:50 wannabe1987 hi injektion
18:50 egrsteve been working 45+s and trying to spend time at the lab
18:51 Sasha-iPhone BTW, egrsteve, my TV is still broken… i dunno if I should chuck it or risk wasting more ti
18:51 Sasha-iPhone *time on it
18:52 egrsteve probably not worth putting more time into it at this point, if it was an easy fix you would have hopfully found it by now
18:53 * egrsteve blasts toastfire with CO2
18:53 * AgCNO6 goes BOOM
18:54 wannabe1987 o.O  YOU KILLED HIM, steve!
18:54 Sasha-iPhone Well now I have 3 options: buy a new board for 250 bucks, try to repair it myself, or try and melt the sodder on the board so that it fixes it self…
18:55 Toastdude I was salvaged from the ashes :P
18:55 egrsteve a bit crispy but solvaged
18:55 wannabe1987 lol
18:56 egrsteve Sasha-iphone is the board surface mount or through hole?
18:57 egrsteve I can't remember
18:57 Sasha-iPhone Both afaik
18:57 Katemonster why is it that when i set things on fire everyone wants to put it out.
18:57 Toastdude Oh crap....
18:57 * wannabe1987 is leaving
18:57 Toastfire Bye wannabe
18:57 Toastfire Darn....
18:57 Sasha-iPhone Small components smd, the big boys were through hole
18:58 egrsteve large caps a presume
18:58 Sasha-iPhone Ah heck, I'll just sell it on the local equivalent of ebay…
18:58 egrsteve there you go, for sale TV needs new powersupply
18:58 egrsteve someone might get it for parts
18:59 Sasha-iPhone Sale as broken. I've seen dozens of idiots buy stuff that the seller made look as incredibly easy to fix. It wasn't.
18:59 egrsteve nice
19:00 Sasha-iPhone So I'll just start the auction at 1$
19:00 egrsteve it's not that it's hard to fix it will just cost money to replace the board
19:00 Sasha-iPhone Well, if I had a set of skillz like the ones you have ;)
19:00 Sasha-iPhone I would fix it myself
19:01 egrsteve fair enough
19:06 Katemonster http://www.shortpacked.com/2006/comic/book-4/03-whoremongering/injoke/
19:12 Seroster Damn this thing is heavy
19:14 Ponko ok somehow my caps lock is on yet i'm typing small case
19:14 Ponko AND TURNING IT OFF DOES THIS TO IT o_O
19:15 mashpriborintorg try CTRL + ALT + F1
19:15 mashpriborintorg resets the keyboard controler
19:16 speedrunnerG55 Loo
19:16 speedrunnerG55 Lol
19:16 Ponko ok
19:16 Ponko yay
19:18 mashpriborintorg doesn't works all the time tho but sometimes it can let you avoid a reboot
19:19 Sasha-iPhone mashpriborintorg: how on earth do you just happen to know this?
19:19 mashpriborintorg don't remember
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19:22 Ponko thanks for the info
19:23 * Ponko is watching Mr Bean
19:24 Seroster I hate bean.
19:24 Ponko you hate alot of things
19:24 Seroster Especially atkinson
19:25 Ponko why?
19:26 Toastfire Atkinson is good...
19:26 Seroster Because he isnt funny?
19:26 Seroster Neither the actor nor the diet is any good.
19:27 Ponko i think he's alright
19:27 speedrunnerG55 Hi
19:27 Ponko Seroster do you like Red Dwarf
19:27 Seroster But you drive on the wrong side, Ponko .
19:27 Ponko and?
19:27 Ponko so do the Japanese
19:28 Seroster Red dwarf? The bastard child of ms ridinghood and snow whites husband?
19:28 Ponko yes -_-
19:28 Ponko no the TV Show
19:28 Ponko did you like MMPR
19:30 Seroster Maine Manual on Professional Responsibility?
19:30 Seroster I'm pretty fond of Mathematical Methods for Pattern Recognition, yes... How come?
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19:31 Ponko Mighty Morphin Powers Rangers
19:32 Ponko TMNT TMNT Heros in half shell
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19:40 Ponko i have come here to chew bubble and kick ass
19:40 Ponko and i'm ALL out of bubble gum
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19:44 Sasha-iPhone Doesn't this just look mind bogolingly AWESOME? http://pics.roomsapp.mobi/PL329qrVNm
19:44 Kafka streaming neverwinter nights, if anyone wants to see http://www.livestream.com/kafkaisacat
19:45 Ponko that your room Sasha-iPhone
19:45 Sasha-iPhone Yup
19:45 Ponko ;) figured
19:45 Ponko nice slippers
19:45 Sasha-iPhone Just cleaned it up and put those LEDs. BTW, how did you guess :p?
19:47 Ponko Kafka dude
19:47 Sasha-iPhone Kafka?
19:47 Kafka hm?
19:47 Kafka ah
19:47 Ponko lol
19:49 Sasha-iPhone The best part is that I now work for a LED company
19:51 Ponko ooooo that might be helpful for me
19:51 Ponko lol
19:51 Sasha-iPhone How?
19:54 Ponko well me and lwq1996 came up with an idea for a Arduino Scoreboard
19:54 Sasha-iPhone Continue...
19:54 Ponko and that would take multicoloured LEDs
19:55 Sasha-iPhone Which ones?
19:55 Ponko well they can be one colour one minute then another the next
19:55 Ponko i'm not sure of there name
19:55 Sasha-iPhone Yeah, I get that :p
19:55 Sasha-iPhone Basically RGB ones, right?
19:56 Ponko well it needs to go alot of different colours or is that pretty much that
19:56 Sasha-iPhone Well you want to control the colors or not?
19:56 Ponko yes
19:57 Sasha-iPhone So how bright do you want them to be?
19:57 Ponko look up on the forums for Arduino Scoreboard it's in pipe dreams and ideas
19:58 Sasha-iPhone Could you give me a link? I'm on my phone
20:00 Ponko give me one second just gonna dig it out
20:00 Ponko http://thegeekgroup.org/bb/pipe-dreams-and-ideas/arduino-scoreboard/#p46149
20:06 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Radioactive on Tornado Vs Train.
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20:10 Sasha-iPhone Ponko?
20:11 Ponko yeah......
20:12 Sasha-iPhone So how many leds do you think you need?
20:13 Ponko now thats what i'm not sure on
20:14 Sasha-iPhone Because 100 RGB LEDs would cost you 10-20$
20:14 Ponko ahhhhhhhhhh
20:14 Sasha-iPhone But if you get single color LEDs, it would be 1.5-3$ for 100
20:15 Ponko hmmmmm
20:15 Sasha-iPhone If you get larger quantites, it will be cheaper
20:16 Sasha-iPhone But all of this depends on the type you get
20:17 Ponko idk how many i'll need
20:18 Sasha-iPhone Well I can't start helping you until you know what you need
20:19 Ponko hmm well i'll know who to come to when i do
20:20 BatSteve aight time to go
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20:35 Toastfire BotSteve: Tell |RED| I said Hi
20:35 BotSteve Toastfire: I'll pass that on when |RED| is around.
20:35 BotSteve Toastfire: I'll pass that on when |RED| is around.
20:35 Toastfire Hi wannabe1987!
20:35 Toastfire You left before i could say bye...
20:35 wannabe1987 i'm sorry
20:36 wannabe1987 the longer i stayed there tho, the less likely i was to leave :P
20:36 Sasha-iPhone Stuff you can think about whilst waiting: LED size (tophat/smd, diameter/widthXlength), color (RGB or single color), power supply (have 12v supply with resistors or direct voltage for specific colors (usually 2.8v for red, 3v for green and 3.3v for blue)) and so on Ponko
20:36 Toastfire Lol, that's okay
20:36 wannabe1987 i came back!
20:36 Toastfire Yay!
20:37 Ponko cheers Sasha-iPhone
20:37 Toastfire Imma go play Portal now :D
20:37 wannabe1987 ok.....
20:38 Toastfire Nvm about the nick...
20:39 Sasha-iPhone No probs Ponko, keep me posted.
20:39 Ponko will do
20:39 Ponko does your work have a website
20:42 Sasha-iPhone Yeah
20:44 Sasha-iPhone But they sell high end professional products, made in Switzerland… I dunno if that fits into your budget :p
20:44 Ponko well you never know
20:45 Ponko i could win the Euromillions
20:45 Sasha-iPhone You're in europe?
20:45 Ponko yep
20:45 Sasha-iPhone O rly? Where?
20:45 Ponko England
20:46 Sasha-iPhone Should have guessed :p
20:46 Ponko lol
20:47 Sasha-iPhone BTW, most of the experience I have with LEDs comes from before I started working there. I kinda got hired after they saw how fucking valuable I was for 10 bucks an hour.
20:48 Ponko lol
20:48 Ponko so 5 Euros
20:48 Ponko lol
20:49 Sasha-iPhone 9.13 actually
20:49 Ponko ah yes
20:49 Ponko but still
20:49 Sasha-iPhone Well what do you get?
20:52 Sasha-iPhone Ponko?
20:52 Ponko for what?
20:53 Sasha-iPhone Hour of work
20:55 Ponko i'm no longer employed
20:55 Sasha-iPhone BTW, I G2G now, Ponko, you should choose something that fits into this description:  5mm led diode 1) Long life, low consumption, high brightness, easy maintenance.   2)led lens:round,straw hat,oval,flat, helmet. 3)viewing angle;15 to 180 deg 4) Available colors: Red, orange, yellow, green, blue, white, pink, purple.   5) 5mm, different color, different brightness from 200MCD to 25000MCD with different viewing angle.
20:55 Ponko was let go for inability to travel
20:56 wannabe1987 o.O  wall of text
20:56 wannabe1987 bye Sgt_Lemming
20:56 wannabe1987 Sasha-iPhone*
20:56 Sasha-iPhone Sorry, copy and paste from Alibaba
20:57 Sasha-iPhone BTW, that kinda sucks Ponko - esp. in these tough times.
20:57 Ponko yep tell me about it and it was for Porsche :(
20:57 Sasha-iPhone O rly? Daumn. I would have not given up that job.
21:00 Ponko i didn't want to :(
21:00 Ponko but they SAY i can have it back
21:10 Sasha-iPhone Well since I'm 16, and this is a summer job doing stuff that I like... so I'm happy.
21:10 injektion I'm 24 and I've never had a fulfilling job
21:10 Sasha-iPhone :( well that sucks
21:11 Sasha-iPhone What job(s) did you have?
21:11 wannabe1987 injektion same
21:12 injektion I've done diesel engine assembly for Perkins
21:12 injektion I've worked in warehouses
21:12 Sasha-iPhone What sort of wages did you guys get?
21:13 injektion Working for a shelter (on a contract basis) for victims of domestic violence doing IT stuff makes me feel good about myself
21:13 injektion Lets see by the time I got laid off of Perkins I was making 13.75 an hour
21:14 Sasha-iPhone Euros?
21:14 injektion USD
21:14 SparkyProjects I had a fulfilling job for 32 years, and i left :P
21:14 injektion Perkins I don't see how they are still in business
21:15 injektion Those British built and designed diesel engines are not something I'd like to own
21:16 wannabe1987 super 8 is a weird movie - so far
21:17 SparkyProjects We had a Perkins 3 cylinder generator, was the most reliable on site for starting,and we had 12 other gensets
21:17 injektion SparkyProjects, 400 series?
21:18 SparkyProjects Not sure, but it was built originally as a marine engine in the 30's
21:18 injektion Their current small displacement 3/4 cylinder engines are not anywhere close to being good quality
21:19 SparkyProjects It was air cooled
21:19 injektion When I got my 400 series I was working at Perkins at the time and assembled the whole damn engine by myself
21:20 Ponko crap i forgot i was on here lol
21:20 injektion That was an awesome experience but the parts they used were shit
21:26 injektion http://www.netsalesnw.com/eBay/perkins/right.jpg
21:27 injektion That's obviously one built in the UK
21:27 Sasha-iPhone BTW, kinda wierd question: where can I find a potentiometer using which I can step down a 2.75-3.7 V DC current to 2.75-3.6v one?
21:29 Ponko i'd rather of lost a crap job then a job at Porsche
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21:30 Ponko man that Oldspice advert is weird
21:30 Sasha-iPhone The Fabio guy or the real deal?
21:31 Ponko the guy whos on a horse
21:31 SparkyProjects Sasha, what do you mean ?
21:31 SparkyProjects What are you trying to achieve ?
21:31 Toastfire Mustafa?
21:31 Sasha-iPhone There are 2
21:31 Sasha-iPhone Well, only 1 of them is real
21:32 Ponko he's a black guy toned muscles and all the rest
21:32 SparkyProjects Sasha-iPhone ^
21:33 Lanther did someone say muscles?
21:33 Ponko yes
21:33 Toastfire Lol
21:33 Sasha-iPhone MusclesGlasses
21:35 Sasha-iPhone Ok, no one watches Epic Meal Time?
21:36 Ponko i'v heard of it
21:38 Ponko its a shell inside are 2 tickets to that thing you love, look again the tickets are now diamonds, anything is possible when your man smells like oldspice and not a lady, i'm on a horse
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21:40 Toastfire do do dodo do do dodo do!
21:43 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NimgvwDO2CI&amp;feature=related
21:44 Ponko i have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass
21:45 Ponko and i'm all outta bubble gum
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22:06 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Ponko on Arduino Scoreboard
22:10 Sgt_Lemming mmmm, $205 worth of coins is kinda heavy
22:15 Ponko lol
22:15 Lanther Sgt_Lemming: 205USD or some other dollar?
22:15 Sgt_Lemming Australian dollar
22:16 Lanther ah. About to say, 205USD in coins is only MAYBE fifteen pounds
22:17 Lanther unsure how much it'd weigh in other coins, though, as I rarely deal with them
22:17 MadManMarkAu1 Sgt_Lemming: Going to pay a speeding ticked in $1 coins? :3
22:17 Sgt_Lemming yeah, we have $1 and $2 coins here
22:17 Sgt_Lemming heh, no
22:17 Sgt_Lemming money from the drinks fridge at the hackerspace MadManMarkAu1
22:17 Seroster Ey SparkyProjects
22:17 Seroster I got a new washing machine motor
22:17 MadManMarkAu1 AH, right :P
22:17 Lanther we have $20 coins, but no one uses them because they're worth many times their face value
22:17 Seroster But the bastards that made it used damn RIVETS
22:17 MadManMarkAu1 Hackerspace, in what state?
22:17 Seroster ARRR!
22:18 Lanther Actually, I have a $1 US coin worth hundreds of times its face value if you melt it down
22:18 Lanther because solid mufuggin silver
22:18 Ponko what makes me laugh i saw someone do that before pay a speeding fine in just coins
22:18 Seroster Lanther, 100 bucks worth of silver?
22:18 MadManMarkAu1 Sgt_Lemming: Where is this hackerspace?
22:18 Seroster Thats at least 150 grams
22:18 Sgt_Lemming brisbane
22:18 Lanther Seroster: more, unless silver's plummeted without my knowledge
22:18 MadManMarkAu1 Oh, blah
22:19 MadManMarkAu1 not Perth
22:19 Seroster Or, for the laidman, a fucking dinnerplate of silver.
22:19 Sgt_Lemming www.artifactory.org <---- tell em lemming sent you
22:19 Seroster I asure you, it's pure metal worth does not exceed ten bucks.
22:19 MadManMarkAu1 I know about them, just never had time/occasion to go out there
22:19 Lanther WOAH, it HAS plummeted
22:19 Lanther wellshit
22:19 Sgt_Lemming make time
22:19 Seroster Unless you are talking about something else than american, canadian or australian dollars.
22:20 MadManMarkAu1 I'll get out there eventually
22:20 Lanther Seroster: it's an old, big, heavy coin from many many many years ago
22:20 Seroster Lanther, Silver has never gone over 40bucks a gram
22:20 MadManMarkAu1 well, gotta head to work
22:20 MadManMarkAu1 See you all later :)
22:20 Seroster Cya MadManMarkAu1
22:20 Sgt_Lemming l8r
22:20 Lanther Seroster: $40/g is a LOT
22:20 Seroster Yeah, that's my point
22:21 Lanther right now it's  like $38.50/oz...
22:21 Lanther so this coin isn't worth too much right now :c
22:21 Lanther well, not for silver anyway
22:21 Lanther it's still a big chunky old silver coin
22:22 Seroster Please use metric. I can handle pounds, stones, gallons... But I havent botherd to learn oz
22:22 Lanther 1 gram = 0.035something oz
22:22 Seroster ...
22:22 Seroster .c 100grams to oz
22:22 BotSteve 3.52739619 ounces
22:23 Seroster Anyhow, the pure silver from the coin won't exceed 10bucks. The collectors value however may very well go into the hundreds if not thousands.
22:25 Lanther it's slightly over 1USD/gram for silver right now! D:
22:25 Seroster Oh
22:25 Seroster And your average penny is like 5 grams
22:35 Toastfire Bye
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22:39 tonsofpcs evenin'
22:39 wannabe1987 hi tonsofpcs
22:40 wannabe1987 bye toast
22:40 tonsofpcs so is cprossu gone home now? or is he still around for a while?
22:40 wannabe1987 i don't know :(
22:47 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqRxWAqnQ_g created from the cosmic legends of the universe
22:49 wannabe1987 strange movie
22:51 Ponko ehe?
22:51 Ponko They Live is a strange movie
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23:06 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: SitkaGrown on Tornado Vs Train.
23:07 injektion I found my old website and some hidden humor in the errordocs folder http://goput.it/oeq.gif
23:34 eadthem injektion that site dosent work
23:36 injektion eadthem, flush your dns
23:37 eadthem that fixed it
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23:43 speedrunnerG55 Hey guys
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23:49 tonsofpcs hai
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23:57 masterofmonks Seroster: http://imgur.com/r/gaming/aHl2O

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