Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-08-17

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00:00 eadthem he dosent strike me as the IRC type
00:00 masterofmonks Toastdude: Chris?
00:00 masterofmonks Or PhotonicInduction?
00:00 Toastdude PhotonicInduction
00:00 Bat-Mobile oooh, we should invite him!
00:01 masterofmonks Oh, that would be hilarious.
00:01 eadthem searchIRC  no results for photonicinduction
00:02 Toastdude Why would it be hilarious?
00:02 Toastdude Jw
00:02 masterofmonks Chris + PhotonicInduction != peace.
00:02 SparkyProjects He's so full of himself, would we get a word in edgeways if he were here ?
00:02 Toastdude I don't know him, I've just heard of him
00:02 Toastdude Ah... I see
00:03 eadthem photonic (~grimreap@*.twilightparadox.com) Channels: @#blu-ray #computer @#wiistream @#wiiyou  Server: irc.colosolutions.net
00:03 eadthem thats the thing  pepole act diffrent on irc  than on the phone  than on camera than in real life
00:03 SparkyProjects Toastdude http://www.youtube.com/user/Photonicinduction
00:03 masterofmonks SparkyProjects: No more full of himself than other people....
00:04 Toastdude Although I hate being on camera...
00:05 eadthem you didnt seam to do to bad
00:05 Toastdude Thanks
00:07 eadthem i could just see what your mom was thinkign when chris said  "you can build one"
00:08 Toastdude Lol
00:09 Toastdude She said that if we get hurt somehow, I'm grounded :P
00:09 masterofmonks Toastdude: How old are you?
00:09 Toastdude 13
00:11 masterofmonks And what video were you in?
00:11 masterofmonks Oh.
00:11 eadthem most recent blog
00:11 Toastdude Yesterday's CB
00:11 masterofmonks I see it now.
00:11 Toastdude Yeah
00:13 Toastdude I'm a lot different than I am on camera...
00:14 maglinvinn_work when did that dude jab chris?
00:15 masterofmonks For +v tonight " Deficiency in what causes scurvy and rabbit starvation?" This is a two part question.
00:15 eadthem somewhere in his last 5 posts
00:15 eadthem vitamin c
00:15 Bat-Mobile rabbit starvation?
00:15 Bat-Mobile huh
00:16 eadthem scurvy is caused by a lack of vitimin c
00:16 eadthem rabbid starvation is not nessicarly related
00:16 eadthem its more of not getting enuff fat
00:16 eadthem namely from eating only the extreamly lean meat of rabits
00:16 masterofmonks No, they are not related at all.
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00:17 Toastdude Hi speed
00:17 masterofmonks But both are issues caused by deficiency.
00:17 speed_linux joined #thegeekgroup
00:17 speed_linux hi Toastdude
00:18 * speed_linux takes a small break after doing chapter 7 lab....phone call brb
00:18 eadthem and humans are one of the few anamals that can get scurvie
00:18 eadthem most other anamals can produce vitimin c
00:19 maglinvinn_work hmm.  i can't find the video
00:19 maglinvinn_work le sigh
00:19 speed_linux back
00:20 masterofmonks Yep, and you can avoid rabbit starvation by eating the entire rabbit.
00:20 speed_linux weres wannabe?
00:20 speed_linux hi Bat-Mobile
00:20 masterofmonks Which isn't to say that most americans are at much risk of rabbit starvation for at least a couple of months.
00:21 Bat-Mobile hi speed
00:21 speed_linux how are you Bat-Mobile
00:22 Toastdude maglinvinn_work: What video?
00:22 Bat-Mobile I'm good
00:22 Bat-Mobile you?
00:22 speed_linux im good.
00:22 maglinvinn_work the one where photonic jabs chris
00:22 maglinvinn_work i'm ucrious.
00:22 masterofmonks maglinvinn_work: It's at the end of one of his videos.
00:23 Toastdude Oh, that
00:23 speed_linux Bat-Mobile, i fixed my pc at school and i haVE A QUESTION
00:23 speed_linux IFoops caps
00:23 Bat-Mobile congrats
00:23 Bat-Mobile I have aN ANSWER
00:23 Bat-Mobile (:
00:23 Bat-Mobile what's up?
00:23 speed_linux if i reinstalled windows again, does that use a product key?
00:24 Bat-Mobile yes, you have to type in the product key each time you install windows
00:24 masterofmonks As long as the product key is on no other machine you are safe.
00:25 speed_linux but if i get 3 installs with the pc if i reinsatall it on the same pc 3 times does it use all them up?
00:25 masterofmonks No.
00:25 speed_linux ok sweet :D
00:26 speed_linux a read in my a+ book about upgradding the mb that i would use one, so i must save something from the mb durring activation?
00:26 speed_linux it*
00:26 masterofmonks No, just call microsoft up.
00:27 Bat-Mobile yeah, that's what I usually do
00:27 masterofmonks It's an automated system.
00:28 speed_linux ugh >_> i dont have my cisc or annything with me now, so idk if calling would do me anny good i i have to give them anny info
00:28 Bat-Mobile "I don't have this software installed on any other machines."  "OEM or retail?"  "Neither, MSDN Academic Alliance"  "Oh, ok, type this in:  AAAAA-BBBBB- etc"
00:28 speed_linux should i try annyway?
00:28 Bat-Mobile what's the worst they can say?
00:28 speed_linux idk >_>
00:28 speed_linux i dont even really know who to call (phone #)
00:29 masterofmonks It will tell you if it fails activation.
00:29 speed_linux kk
00:31 eadthem it saves hdd serial numbers nic mac addresses  cpu types and modals    chipset north and southbridge info
00:31 eadthem bios version
00:31 eadthem ...
00:31 speed_linux o_o
00:31 eadthem if greater than 50% or so of it changes then it starts to wonder
00:32 speed_linux oh my
00:32 speed_linux i herd you get conflicts with these things if you ghost a machine
00:33 speed_linux but hats a nother thing entirely >__>
00:33 eadthem in general if you keep the same class of cpu  but have a new mobo and cpu  (and driver conflict dosent kill you)    but keep the same nic, hdd and ither soundcard or gfx card it probably wont ask
00:33 eadthem ya if you ghost thers no issue for xp  because your cpu and mobo  modal and such stay the same
00:33 eadthem even tho nic and hdd serial change
00:34 speed_linux oh
00:34 eadthem or that could be because ive only ever ghosted xp boxes that probably had a site liciense
00:34 eadthem witch dosent activate the same way
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00:40 speed_linux .wiki  albeit
00:40 BotSteve "Log in / create account" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albeit
00:40 speed_linux 0_0
00:41 * speed_linux bushes BotSteve off a cliff
00:41 speed_linux .g  albeit
00:41 BotSteve speed_linux: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/albeit
00:41 speed_linux whats the command for BotSteve to define something?
00:43 * speed_linux pokes Bat-Mobile
00:44 Bat-Mobile .define definition
00:44 BotSteve definition — noun: 1. (semantics) A statement of the meaning of a word or word group or a sign or symbol (dictionary definitions), 2. A statement expressing the essential nature of something; formulation
00:44 speed_linux lol
00:44 speed_linux .definition  albeit
00:44 speed_linux .define  albeit
00:44 BotSteve Couldn't get any definitions for albeit.
00:45 speed_linux .define albeit
00:45 BotSteve Couldn't get any definitions for albeit.
00:45 speed_linux >_>
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00:45 speed_linux hi exor674
00:46 Toastdude Hello exor674
00:46 exnora476 hi exnora476
00:46 exnora476 ^_^
01:02 * Katemonster kicks speed
01:02 Katemonster hey wanna see something neat?
01:02 Bat-Mobile sure!
01:03 Katemonster BAT!  hey you
01:03 Katemonster http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/3192/screenshot43q.png
01:04 Katemonster 3 star-trek-esque nacelle engines, 3 very tiny fuel tanks, and about half a second of ungodly acceleration.
01:05 Katemonster i made a drop tower ride :D
01:05 Bat-Mobile hey kate!
01:05 Bat-Mobile I'm at work
01:05 Bat-Mobile woo 26G!
01:05 Katemonster cool.  sending the noobs to fetch buckets of prop wash?
01:06 Toastdude Hi Katemonster
01:06 Katemonster hey toast
01:06 masterofmonks After the bird incident, yes.
01:06 Katemonster LOL
01:07 Katemonster also: i am now done with this quarter of school
01:08 Bat-Mobile congrts!
01:08 Toastdude Yay! Today was the first day for me...
01:08 Katemonster also: i completely reskinned almost everything in KSP
01:08 Toastdude What college are you going to Katemonster?
01:08 Katemonster a community college in eastern washington
01:09 Toastdude Ok, cool :)
01:10 Katemonster i now have the single most awesome parachute ever. http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/7646/screenshot48s.png
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01:11 Bat-Mobile needs a big skull on it
01:11 Katemonster lol
01:12 Katemonster i was going for an SR-71 and Brotherhood of NOD color scheme.  i'm happy with how it turned out.
01:12 Katemonster http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/7115/screenshot39v.png
01:13 Katemonster http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/4931/screenshot49j.png
01:17 speed_linux Katemonster, why you kick me
01:17 Katemonster because i can.
01:17 speed_linux >_>
01:17 Katemonster check out my reskins.
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01:19 Toastdude Katemonster: What does the purple thing on the attitude indicator mean?
01:19 Bat-Mobile GDI forever
01:19 Katemonster it points directly toward (and away from) the launch pad.
01:19 Katemonster LOL haven't we had this argument before steve
01:20 Katemonster i *always* play red.
01:20 Bat-Mobile nope
01:20 Bat-Mobile we haven't
01:20 Bat-Mobile ohhh
01:20 Bat-Mobile wait
01:20 Bat-Mobile that
01:20 Bat-Mobile yes
01:20 Bat-Mobile we have
01:20 Katemonster but i might do a GDI skin set too
01:20 Katemonster lol
01:20 Katemonster also i want a flame tank.
01:20 Toastdude Okay, and the yellow is the direction of travel?
01:20 Katemonster yep
01:23 Toastdude Ok.
01:23 Katemonster in that last screenshot the purple mark is pointing away from the launch pad (hopefully obvious since it's pointing into the sky)
01:24 Toastdude I'm not sure exactly how to read it...
01:27 Katemonster it's basically a combination of the artificial horizon and gyro directional indicator on an airplane (which is absolute bullshit, by the way; the 8-ball you get on a real spacecraft is an *absolute* inertial reference plane, *not* relative to the earth's horizon)
01:29 speed_linux oh my PCIe is FAST!
01:29 Toastdude Oh, I meant the purple indicator... I can read the artificial horizon
01:30 tonsofpcs Katemonster: huh?
01:30 tonsofpcs what do you mean by an absolute inertial reference plane?
01:31 tonsofpcs (also, what interface is that?)
01:31 speed_linux A PCIe connection uses one wire for sending and one for receiving. Each of these pairs of wires between a PCIe controller and a device is called a lane. Each direction of a lane runs at 2.5 Gbps, or 5 Gbps with PCIe 2.0. Better yet, each point-to-point connection can use 1, 2, 4,  8, 12, 16, or 32 lanes to achieve a maximum theoretical bandwidth of 320 Gbps.
01:34 Katemonster the gyrohorizon in an airplane is tied to a pendulum that drags it slowly into alignment with the earth; if you start at the equator and fly down to the south pole, the horizon will still be relative to earth and show that you're flying straight and level (assuming you are flying straight and level and it hasn't malf'ed).  that doesn't exactly work in zero gravity, so on orbital vehicles you...
01:34 Katemonster ...just have a straight-up gyroscope that's calibrated to the stars; if you're in a polar orbit and it points toward the horizon when you're at the north pole, then when you get to the equator it will tell you you're traveling 90 degrees straight down.
01:34 Toastdude tonsofpcs: I think she means the orbital plane of the Earth around the sun
01:34 Toastdude Oh, nvm
01:34 Bat-Mobile speed_linux: which has more bandwidth, a PCIe connection or a station wagon full of micro SD cards?
01:35 Katemonster it's referred to as the "flight director attitude indicator" http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/MLSM-LM-8FDAI.jpg
01:35 tonsofpcs Katemonster: ah
01:35 tonsofpcs cool.
01:35 Katemonster which of course no longer exists on anything with a glass cockpit...
01:35 tonsofpcs Bat-Mobile: depends on if it's someone from NJ or someone from Florida driving, obviously ;)
01:35 Toastdude Is that picture from an Apollo CM?
01:35 Katemonster ...which means they probably still have one on the soyuz! :D
01:36 Katemonster i'm not sure
01:36 Toastdude Ok
01:36 Bat-Mobile :D
01:36 tonsofpcs Katemonster: why wouldn't you have one in a glass cockpit'd vehicle?
01:36 Toastdude It kinda looks like it, but i dont know
01:36 Katemonster well, you do, but it's displayed on a computer screen rather than with a physical ball mechanically tied to a gyroscope
01:37 Katemonster http://history.nasa.gov/ap16fj/pics/fdai_open1c_600.jpg
01:37 Katemonster it's kind of a complicated piece of hardware by itself
01:37 Toastdude You should still have ordinary instruments as back-ups like in a glass cockpit Cessna
01:37 Katemonster yeah but on the shuttle i'm not so sure about that
01:37 tonsofpcs yea.  If I'm strapped to a rocket, I want to have about 12 layers of backup
01:37 Katemonster of course it no longer matters... >.>
01:38 Katemonster on the other hand i think they look at it as "if you have a total instrument failure in orbit, you're pretty much fucked anyway"
01:38 tonsofpcs heck, I work in TV and we have layers of backup.  Most of what I do has no direct effect on anyone's ability to stay alive.
01:38 * Katemonster goes to look and see
01:38 tonsofpcs well, if you're in orbit, you have time to use duct tape to adapt a square peg to a round hole.
01:39 Toastdude True
01:39 Toastdude At least they did...
01:39 Katemonster lol
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01:39 Katemonster yep
01:39 Katemonster nope, there's no
01:39 Toastdude Hi CaptainNiobe
01:39 Katemonster *nope there's no mechanical FDIA on the (glass cockpit) shuttle nope, there's no
01:39 Katemonster alkdsp;ofkamnsgf
01:39 Katemonster http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q286/planetpics/spaceshuttleSTSCPanelsmall.jpg
01:39 Katemonster there
01:39 tonsofpcs that said, the shuttle lands like an airplane, I'd expect an artificial horizon.
01:40 CaptainNiobe g'day,Toastdude, how are you?
01:40 Bat-Mobile ): is that the highest resolution photo available?
01:40 Bat-Mobile boo
01:40 Katemonster probably not...
01:40 speed_linux Bat-Mobile, pcie
01:40 tonsofpcs Bat-Mobile: probably not.  They show that on NASATV HD all the time w/ more res.
01:40 Toastdude Good, how about you Niobe?
01:40 CaptainNiobe hey steve (i assume that's you, steve :) )
01:40 Bat-Mobile and tonsofpcs, I expect that when the shuttle lands, there's an option to put on a "standard" AH on the screen
01:41 CaptainNiobe Toast, I'm strugging trying to get rid of ubuntu on a p3 to format to windows lol
01:41 * speed_linux thought he saw cappinboden
01:41 tonsofpcs Bat-Mobile: I expcet that when the shuttle lands, there's so many people yelling corrections at you from the ground, the instruments in front of you don't matter that much
01:41 CaptainNiobe I'M NOT CHRIS! LMFAO!!! :D
01:41 Katemonster niobe is a fat chick in australia.  HER WORDS NOT MINE.
01:42 * speed_linux pokes Bat-Mobile
01:42 CaptainNiobe exactly, Katemonster :D
01:42 speed_linux o_o
01:42 Toastdude Cool, they still use the same type of gauge that was used as O2 pressure on Apollo
01:42 * speed_linux doubble pokes Bat-Mobile
01:43 Katemonster tons, from what i understand the aerodynamic handling is so terrible (supersonic brick) that it really can't be landed without computer-aided FBW, so if the computers fail to where you have no AH on display, they also fail to where you have no flight control, and that's why the carry parachutes onboard.
01:43 Bat-Mobile hi speed
01:43 Toastdude Is Niobe a girl?
01:43 CaptainNiobe last time i checked lol
01:43 Toastdude Lol
01:43 Katemonster you should check again.
01:43 Katemonster it's good for your health.
01:43 Toastdude I didn't know that :)
01:43 speed_linux >_L
01:43 Katemonster ;D
01:43 speed_linux >_>
01:43 Toastdude Kate....
01:43 Katemonster what?
01:44 Toastdude Nevermind... =P
01:44 CaptainNiobe hmm, breasts, vagina... i *think* that mans i'm a girl...? LMFAO!!!
01:44 speed_linux o_o
01:44 * Katemonster just stops before she gets too vulgar.  there are minors in the room afterall.
01:44 Toastdude Lol
01:44 CaptainNiobe it's ok, i wouldn't go beyond that anyways... :)
01:45 speed_linux phew
01:45 Bat-Mobile ooh, maybe I'll get to mention #tgg_nsfw before masterofmonks does!
01:45 SparkyProjects CaptaiinNiobe is a good friend of mine, i turned her into a geek :D
01:45 SparkyProjects We've known each other for a few years
01:45 * Toastdude is the minor Kate is talking about
01:45 speed_linux <_<
01:45 Toastdude Is anyone else here a minor?
01:45 CaptainNiobe yeah, pj (SparkyProjects), it's all your fault! :P
01:45 Katemonster Bat-Mobile: complain and yee shall receive http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/STSCPanel.jpg
01:45 speed_linux i used to be a year ago
01:45 speed_linux -___-
01:46 speed_linux so what am i now, a mojor?
01:46 speed_linux major?
01:46 speed_linux lol jk
01:46 Toastdude lol
01:46 Katemonster and on the screens second from either end is the digital FDAI ball
01:47 Toastdude Yay, high resolution!
01:48 Katemonster toast: the 8-ball off the Apollo 13 CM http://history.nasa.gov/ap08fj/pics/fdai.jpg
01:48 Katemonster fun fact: see the rod dot they put at either pole?
01:48 Toastdude Yes
01:49 Bat-Mobile my first thought when you said "see the red dot" was "ooh, reflex sights!"
01:49 Katemonster LMAO
01:49 Katemonster nice
01:49 Obtuse_ hello
01:50 Obtuse_ how is everyone doing?
01:50 Bat-Mobile hi Obtuse_!
01:50 Toastdude Hi Obtuse_ !
01:50 Obtuse_ hello Batsteve
01:50 Obtuse_ I went to a bar called "The Hideout" tonight
01:50 Katemonster if the crosshairs enter the red zone, the whole thing suffers gimbal-lock and freezes; you have to readjust attitude then re-align the instrument to the stars using a sextant.
01:51 Obtuse_ its right next to Fox 17
01:51 Obtuse_ Even the sign for the Hideout is hidden behind trees
01:51 Katemonster NASA considered this a more cost-effective solution than just building it to be resistant to gimbal lock.  the actual pilots were not very happy about that.
01:52 Katemonster also, hi obtuseisabot
01:52 Obtuse_ hello monster
01:52 Bat-Mobile the shuttle has pitch and roll trim
01:52 Bat-Mobile ooh, and yaw trim too
01:53 Katemonster lol
01:53 Katemonster i would hope it does
01:54 Katemonster (batsteve is taking inventory of what every single instrument and control in the space shuttle does)
01:54 Obtuse_ sound like very important things to control
01:54 Katemonster (since, you know, they are for sale now)
01:54 Obtuse_ I will soon be working with equipment that displays altitutde, attitude
01:55 Katemonster hey TGG should ask NASA to donate a shuttle.  i mean they aren't using them anymore...
01:55 Obtuse_ http://www.as.l-3com.com/ <--- my new job starting next monday
01:55 Katemonster nice
01:55 CaptainNiobe kate, where would tgg park it? lol
01:56 Katemonster on the roof.  then mount the weather cam on the tail.
01:56 CaptainNiobe LOL!!! i like that idea... :D
01:56 Obtuse_ and then the roof collapses
01:56 Katemonster chris could make it work.  he's magic
01:56 Obtuse_ haha.
01:56 CaptainNiobe the area the shuttle would be might be able to be re-inforced, especially if it's on a corner...
01:57 Katemonster unfortunately i think the shuttle is actually slightly larger than the building itself.
01:57 Katemonster or close to it
01:57 Katemonster and i'm sure if they did donate a shuttle they would strip the SSMEs off of it first, and that's no fun.
01:58 CaptainNiobe ssmes?
01:58 Katemonster although it does make it substantially lighter.
01:58 Katemonster the main engines
01:58 CaptainNiobe ahh, yes... them and the wiring for most of it
01:58 Katemonster (literally stands for Space Shuttle Main Engine.  that's literally it's official designation by Rocketdyne)
01:59 CaptainNiobe ahh, thankies... :)
02:00 Katemonster i mean, like, the main first-stage engines on the Saturn V were Rocketdyne F-1s
02:00 Katemonster but the SSME is just the SSME, no model number.
02:00 Katemonster descriptive name is descriptive, i guess.
02:01 CaptainNiobe mind you, i'm not getting this p3 formatted... anyone know how to format an ubuntu pc when it seems to refuse to boot from the cd rom first? (yes, i changed the boot sequence, still loads into ubuntu without the rom being read until about loaded)
02:01 Katemonster ....... >.>
02:02 Katemonster no idea.
02:02 * Katemonster doesn't actually know anything
02:03 Obtuse_ you're all talk?
02:03 Obtuse_ all bark, no bite
02:03 CaptainNiobe lol... you know some about shuttles... that's knowing something lol
02:04 Katemonster what's a shuttle?
02:04 Katemonster :D
02:04 Obtuse_ :P
02:04 Katemonster LOL i was right.  her'es the soyuz instrument panel
02:04 Katemonster http://blogs.echofiveecho.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/soyuz_tm_cockpit.jpg
02:05 tonsofpcs Katemonster: what if the display just cracks?
02:05 Katemonster FDAI top-right, and check out the volt meter above it; that looks like it was made in the 40s.  that's beautiful.
02:05 tonsofpcs I mean, we know NASA designs things not to crack, but we know they do anyway...
02:06 tonsofpcs Katemonster: it probably was made in the 40s...
02:06 Katemonster well, i think that's also why there's 8 displays; pretty sure you can pull up any data you need on any display, hence the term multifunction display.
02:06 tonsofpcs also, loving the mini globe
02:06 * CaptainNiobe thinks challenger disaster
02:07 Katemonster well.... yeah.... i'm sure that caused their displays to crack... among other things >.>
02:07 * Katemonster knows that's not what you meant
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02:07 tonsofpcs heck, those selector buttons in the middle look like they were made in the 40s... (ok, maybe 60s or 70s)
02:07 SparkyProjects The shuttle uses  5 computers for launch, or 3 for orbit, the computers are on a 'committee' system, a faulty computer can be voted out of the committe automatically by the others.
02:08 CaptainNiobe lol... i think that cause eerything on the shuttle to crack... lol...
02:08 Katemonster LOL.  i'm looking for the cassette slot
02:08 tonsofpcs also, what are those eight things to the left of the meter?
02:08 tonsofpcs Katemonster: there's a CD slot above the screen
02:08 tonsofpcs (or is that a speaker grill?)
02:08 Katemonster is that a cd slot?  for all we know it could just be electrical tape.
02:08 tonsofpcs i'm thinking they're metering slugs, but i'm not sure....
02:09 tonsofpcs Katemonster: not really, looks too small to be a CD slot...
02:09 Katemonster those are electrical connections; hell if i know what they go too
02:09 tonsofpcs those are connections?  What are they single-pin hot patches or something?
02:10 Katemonster no clue.
02:10 tonsofpcs interesting matrix entry sections
02:10 Katemonster also there's 5 deer right outside my window right now.
02:10 Katemonster and like 10 million quale.
02:10 tonsofpcs and how many high powered hunting rifles?
02:11 Katemonster just the Mosin, unless you count the .45 and .50 percussion muskets
02:11 Katemonster well... rifles, actually
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02:11 tonsofpcs so what is that UI that your initial screenshot showed us?
02:11 Katemonster hmm?
02:11 Katemonster which?
02:11 tonsofpcs http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/4931/screenshot49j.png
02:11 tonsofpcs what's the UI?
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02:14 Katemonster oh, it's an artificial horizon and directional indicator.  what i was getting at was the two special indicators on it; the green circle shows which direction the craft is moving; if the open green circle is in the middle of the boresight, the craft is pointing the same direction it's traveling; if the crossed-out circle is in the boresight, then the craft is pointing backwards (for retrograde engi
02:14 Katemonster ne burn for orbit adjustment or reentry)
02:15 lwq_netbook hi
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02:15 tonsofpcs Katemonster: no, but what is it from? what program is that?
02:15 Katemonster the purple indicator points back to the launch pad; the dot with four arcs round it points toward the pad, while the dot with three lines around it (the one shown) is the direction opposite the launch pad.
02:15 Katemonster oh
02:15 Toastdude Hi lwq_netbook
02:15 Katemonster (well i was also explaining that to toast)
02:15 Katemonster (and got sidetracked)
02:15 Katemonster .g Kerbal Space Program
02:15 BotSteve Katemonster: http://kerbalspaceprogram.com/
02:15 lwq_netbook TOAST I SAW YOU
02:16 tonsofpcs danke
02:16 Toastdude COOL
02:16 tonsofpcs interesting
02:16 Katemonster LIQUID
02:18 lwq_netbook BITCH MONSTER
02:20 Toastdude Hm... Gimbal lock
02:20 Katemonster liquid did you watch the video i sent you.  WELL DID YOU
02:20 lwq_netbook no
02:20 Katemonster fail.
02:20 lwq_netbook well half
02:20 Katemonster also check out my swank new spacecraft skin http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/4931/screenshot49j.png
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02:36 Toastdude Hi clony101
02:37 clony101_ its me toast...lwq
02:37 Toastdude I know...
02:37 Toastdude I do know your yt account. After all I made a logo
02:38 clony101_ lol
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02:39 Toastdude Hi [Python]
02:39 [Python] Hello
02:39 Katemonster you are all geeks.
02:39 Katemonster oh wait
02:40 Toastdude :|
02:40 Katemonster :D
02:41 Toastdude Lol
02:45 Bat-Mobile work calls and I must answer
02:45 Bat-Mobile night all
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03:08 therm hello
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03:11 * [Python] crashed
03:12 * [Python] want to get more memory ...
03:17 * speed_linux is done readding chapter 8 and takes break before readding chapter review
03:17 speed_linux hello everyone
03:17 * [Python] wonders whats the book is
03:18 clony101_ SPEED **runs and shakes hand**
03:18 speed_linux hi clony101_  :D
03:18 clony101_ .seen wannabe1987
03:18 BotSteve clony101_: I last saw wannabe1987 15.18 hours ago at 2011-08-16 12:07:19 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:18:21 UTC
03:18 clony101_ for once im here
03:18 [Python] speed, what are you reading ?
03:18 speed_linux [Python], its my a+ book
03:18 clony101_ oh yeah speed btw im lwq just a different name
03:19 speed_linux cool
03:20 * [Python] is curious why lwq changed names
03:20 [Python] (again ?)
03:21 clony101_ i dont change them..when my connection gets lost it reconnects sometimes with a different name
03:22 speed_linux you can change it back yes?
03:22 [Python] thats interesting ... using web chat client ?
03:22 clony101_ ik i can im just to lazy too :P
03:22 speed_linux lol
03:22 clony101_ yes icechat
03:23 speed_linux is that similar to frenode qwerbic?
03:23 * [Python] drifts off to sleep
03:23 speed_linux how do you connect it to reeenode?
03:23 clony101_ idk
03:23 clony101_ servers...
03:23 speed_linux bye [Python]
03:23 clony101_ they have lots of servers to connect too
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03:23 speed_linux so it just asks you which network you want to use
03:24 clony101_ yes and what channle you want to join and it pretty much does it itself
03:24 Druidic_Rifleman whats up
03:24 * speed_linux poked Druidic_Rifleman
03:24 clony101_ bordem
03:24 speed_linux pokes*
03:25 speed_linux Dougy_, you have a tail
03:25 * clony101_ pokes speed_linux in the eye
03:25 speed_linux ouch
03:25 clony101_ i have a tail
03:25 * Druidic_Rifleman tazer's speed runner with 20 round mag of Xrrep Rounds froman AA12
03:25 speed_linux what the zoinks X_X
03:25 clony101_ .seen ponko
03:25 BotSteve clony101_: I last saw ponko 123.93 hours ago at 2011-08-11 23:29:51 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:25:57 UTC
03:26 clony101_ .seen ponko92
03:26 BotSteve clony101_: I last saw ponko92 608.37 hours ago at 2011-07-22 19:03:54 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:26:08 UTC
03:26 speed_linux .seen |red|
03:26 BotSteve speed_linux: I last saw |red| 510.05 hours ago at 2011-07-26 21:23:24 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:26:16 UTC
03:26 speed_linux o_o
03:26 clony101_ damn whats his name
03:26 clony101_ lol
03:26 clony101_ speed she dont get on no more i guess
03:26 speed_linux i know :/
03:26 Druidic_Rifleman Sooooo Any paint ball geeks?
03:27 Katemonster speed, it's safest just to ignore druid
03:27 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by TheGeekGroup.  New videos:
03:27 BotSteve Forklift Autopsy (Part 1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x91nA77s-iQ
03:27 clony101_ .seen toastdude
03:27 BotSteve clony101_: I last saw toastdude 0.77 hours ago at 2011-08-17 02:41:14 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:27:30 UTC
03:27 clony101_ YAY VIDEO
03:27 Druidic_Rifleman lol
03:27 Druidic_Rifleman Wow that took a while
03:28 speed_linux huh
03:28 Druidic_Rifleman why do videos take solong to post?
03:28 Druidic_Rifleman thefork lift vid
03:28 speed_linux edditing
03:29 clony101_ druidic its because there was 10 hours of video all together
03:29 speed_linux are tgg videos scripted?
03:29 Druidic_Rifleman Ah
03:29 speed_linux ive always wondered that
03:29 clony101_ lol
03:29 Druidic_Rifleman Fromwhat i have seen Some times... Corymakess ascript and chris ignores it if he wants tofromwhat i have seen.
03:30 clony101_ grrr...web browser isnt working
03:30 clony101_ lol
03:30 speed_linux >_>
03:31 speed_linux Druidic_Rifleman, ass more spaces
03:31 Katemonster chris is not a script kiddie, if that's what you're asking.
03:31 speed_linux please
03:31 * clony101_ restarts computer
03:31 speed_linux add
03:32 speed_linux sorry
03:32 Katemonster lol
03:32 Katemonster you add.
03:32 Katemonster i mean ass.
03:33 Katemonster also i find it hilarious (but not unwarranted) that speed is complaining about someone else's typing.
03:33 speed_linux true
03:38 Katemonster okay
03:38 Katemonster fuck everything
03:38 Katemonster i'm going to bed.
03:38 Katemonster -__-
03:38 Toastdude Night Katemonster
03:38 Katemonster no more all-nighters plzkthxbai.
03:38 Katemonster night toaster pastry
03:38 Toastdude :D
03:39 Toastdude LOL
03:41 speed_linux omg kaiotimonster
03:44 speed_linux where was wannabe today?
03:45 speed_linux and...yesterday
03:45 Toastdude She was doing yard work today
03:46 speed_linux ohh >_>
03:47 speed_linux think i did enough for today but idk what i have to do, im not shure if i have to do chapter 8 lab
03:48 speed_linux and i want to read chapter 9
03:48 speed_linux ughhh ill see tomorrow
03:48 Toastdude What is in Ch. 9?
03:48 speed_linux motherboards
03:49 Toastdude Ah
03:49 speed_linux chapter 8 was expancion busses
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03:53 Toastdude Wb lwq_netbook
03:54 clony101 what is the link to the fork lift video
03:54 Toastdude http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x91nA77s-iQ&amp;feature=feedu
03:54 clony101 thanks
03:55 Toastdude Yep
03:55 CaptainNiobe i got the ubuntu p3 formatting... mazing something so simple and jumper settings caused hours of headache... lol...
03:56 * Toastdude has no idea what that means
03:57 CaptainNiobe jumper pins are the old method of choosing which devices are read when, more or less... there was a master primary, a master secondary, a slave primary, and a slave secondary
03:57 CaptainNiobe there's also cable select, which makes everything just work (as i just discovered)
03:58 Toastdude Okay... I've only reset a BIOS jumper...
03:58 CaptainNiobe the hard drive was on cable select, the cd rom was on slave primary... i changed the cd rom to cable select, and voila! problem solved!
03:59 CaptainNiobe nowadays jumper settings are pretty obsolete, sata doesn't use them apparently
03:59 CaptainNiobe ide does
03:59 Toastdude Okay
03:59 Toastdude Glad you got it fixed
04:00 CaptainNiobe me too :D but now i have hours of xp updates ahead of me lol
04:00 Toastdude Oh... Lol
04:00 Toastdude That sucks
04:01 speed_linux i read about that in my a+ book
04:01 CaptainNiobe yeah... it does... but oh well... lol... it's not being used as a standard pc, it's going to be used as a gameserver...
04:01 speed_linux also add on card would use them for irqs and dma and io adressing
04:01 speed_linux but thats so far obsolete
04:02 CaptainNiobe that would probably be in the era of windows 3x?
04:02 speed_linux idk
04:02 speed_linux but cprossu alked about that once
04:02 speed_linux talked
04:03 speed_linux and i just read about it in my book
04:03 CaptainNiobe jumper pins?
04:03 speed_linux ugh they used diffeerent things to do that
04:03 tonsofpcs ?
04:03 tonsofpcs yes
04:04 tonsofpcs I have plenty of cards that have IRQ select jumper blocks (or DIP switches)
04:04 * CaptainNiobe is lost
04:04 speed_linux little blue switches
04:04 speed_linux like in a thermostat
04:04 CaptainNiobe being in australia, we have no nmeed for thermostats, it doesn't get that cold
04:05 tonsofpcs some of which just have a serial port stuck on the bus so they can only select the IRQs (and the like) for 'COM1-4'
04:05 speed_linux huh
04:05 tonsofpcs CaptainNiobe: do you not have air conditioning?
04:05 CaptainNiobe nope
04:05 tonsofpcs also, what kind of thermostat are you using that has DIP switches?
04:05 speed_linux i just heard of it, my friend was in hvac
04:06 tonsofpcs all of the thermostats I've used either are fancy and have softbuttons or are not fancy and have a little tube part-filled with mercury...
04:06 speed_linux and when i did microprocessors, we had to adjust the dip switches on the board so we could use the hex pad
04:07 * CaptainNiobe jumps for joy entering setup
04:07 tonsofpcs DIP switches are just a series of micro switches attached to a DIP (dual-inline package)
04:07 speed_linux oh
04:07 speed_linux cool
04:08 speed_linux ok imah ger to readding the capter review bbl
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04:09 CaptainNiobe later, speed_linux :)
04:13 speed_linux The ISA expansion bus was
04:13 speed_linux 16 bits and ran at about 7 MHz. ISA cards required
04:13 speed_linux tedious manual configuration.
04:13 speed_linux also called the pc buss develooped my ibm
04:14 speed_linux oops
04:14 CaptainNiobe wasn't ibm one of the first computer manufacturers?
04:14 speed_linux also knows as the at buss^
04:14 speed_linux AT
04:14 speed_linux thats after the pc buss
04:15 speed_linux sorry
04:15 * clony101 pokes speed_linus
04:15 speed_linux was the first PC manufacturer
04:15 speed_linux ok ill get back to readding
04:15 CaptainNiobe lol
04:22 speed_linux Devices in a computer system communicate via the four system resources: I/O addresses, IRQs, DMAs, and memory addresses. Not all devices use all four system resources. Earlier systems required manual configuration of each device’s system  resources through jumpers, DIP switches, dials, or software. Modern systems feature plug and play, which automatically configures system resources for each device. The system resources assi
04:22 speed_linux gned to each device can be seen in the Device Manager.
04:23 tonsofpcs yes, I have some with micro rotary switches too.
04:23 speed_linux sounds painfull
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04:28 tonsofpcs I have radios with micro rotary switches for tuning, too.
04:28 tonsofpcs (yes, I said switches, not knobs)
04:31 Toastdude Night all
04:32 speed_linux 0_0
04:32 speed_linux how does that even work?
04:32 clony101 toast you going to bed?
04:32 * speed_linux buts toastdude in a toaster to sleep
04:33 clony101 speed you fail at typeing
04:33 speed_linux why?
04:33 speed_linux oh
04:33 speed_linux puts*
04:33 clony101 there you go
04:33 * speed_linux sigh
04:35 CaptainNiobe speed isn't the only one, latetly my spelling's been horrendous...
04:36 clony101 i can spell its just the typing on the computer
04:36 CaptainNiobe i think that's mostly my problem too... lol...
04:36 CaptainNiobe i type too fast for me and either miss lettrs or pick up extras knocking other keys lol
04:37 speed_linux i didnt learn phonetics well in grammer school
04:37 speed_linux :(
04:37 clony101 phonetics?
04:38 speed_linux ye :_:
04:38 clony101 i hate netbook keyboards
04:38 CaptainNiobe phonetics is how it sounds, i think...
04:39 speed_linux but you use phonetics to know how things are spelt
04:39 CaptainNiobe true... just say the word... and remember it doesn't apply to all words...
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04:55 * wannabe1987 is home...
04:55 BotSteve wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
04:55 wannabe1987 hello?
04:55 BotSteve At 16 Aug 22:35Z, Toastdude asked me to Tell wannabe1987 to buy toothpicks for bacon wrapped burgers
04:55 wannabe1987 thanks toast, BotSteve
04:55 wannabe1987 speed_linux
04:55 speed_linux WANNABEE
04:55 speed_linux ^_^
04:56 clony101 i hate netbook keyboards**
04:56 wannabe1987 did irc survive w/o me?
04:56 clony101 no
04:56 wannabe1987 clony101 i use one almost everyday...
04:56 clony101 what?
04:57 wannabe1987 netbook keyboard...
04:57 * speed_linux desides to start to look at chapter 8 lab
04:57 clony101 oh
04:58 * CaptainNiobe decides she's hungry and wants food
04:58 wannabe1987 CaptainNiobe is a girl?
04:58 CaptainNiobe last time i checked :P
04:58 wannabe1987 o.O
04:58 wannabe1987 exor674
04:59 exor674 mew?
04:59 speed_linux and she did check X__X
04:59 wannabe1987 I"M HOME
04:59 CaptainNiobe and btw, last time i checked was by katemonster's request a couple hours ago... don't think i've changed gender in that time :P
04:59 * speed_linux throws a yarn ball at exor674
05:00 wannabe1987 CaptainNiobe lol
05:00 Druidic_Rifleman Is it  bad idea to usea video harddrive to store video footage for videoediting?
05:00 wannabe1987 speed_linux what do you think about bacon wrapped bacon burgers?
05:00 speed_linux ?! ugh.... sounds ...ughhhh
05:00 Druidic_Rifleman ....... bacon wrapped bacon burgers?
05:01 wannabe1987 yes Druidic_Rifleman
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05:01 * clony101 thows brick at speed_linux
05:01 speed_linux ouch
05:01 Druidic_Rifleman Some where between crack and extacy on the addiction scale?
05:01 speed_linux sits in the corner with blood all over his face
05:01 * egrsteve ducks as he enters the room
05:01 * wannabe1987 has a mosquito bite next to her eye. ugh
05:01 wannabe1987 clony101 what was that for?!
05:01 clony101 lol
05:02 * wannabe1987 gives speed_linux bandages
05:02 * Druidic_Rifleman throws a pack of hooah whipes to speed
05:02 speed_linux thnx
05:02 wannabe1987 Druidic_Rifleman i agree, and i think i need to make them next week
05:02 speed_linux hooah?
05:02 clony101 idk i had a random brick and wanted to chuck it at someone
05:02 * wannabe1987 adds more bacon to the grocery list
05:02 Druidic_Rifleman they are like whet whipes but ore manly
05:02 * CaptainNiobe is glad she wasn't the target
05:02 Druidic_Rifleman do you have acess to a smoker?
05:02 * wannabe1987 agrees with CaptainNiobe
05:02 wannabe1987 Druidic_Rifleman no
05:02 clony101 you shouldnt of said that captainniobie
05:03 CaptainNiobe oh dear... *ducks*
05:03 * wannabe1987 hides behind a sheild
05:03 * clony101 shows food at captainniobe
05:03 clony101 throws
05:03 Druidic_Rifleman shame you should totally do pig candy
05:03 * CaptainNiobe screams as she's splattered with off food
05:03 clony101 damn keyboard -.-
05:03 wannabe1987 pig candy?
05:03 wannabe1987 lol
05:03 Druidic_Rifleman It's candied bacon
05:04 wannabe1987 ??
05:04 Druidic_Rifleman SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOOOOD
05:04 wannabe1987 clony101 what kind of netbook do you have?
05:04 clony101 dell
05:04 * egrsteve prepares noodle canon at 100psi just in case
05:04 wannabe1987 i'd be on my laptop (dell)
05:04 wannabe1987 but i need a driver
05:04 * speed_linux steps away from the channel secretly to do his llab
05:04 * CaptainNiobe runs off to teh nearest shower
05:04 Druidic_Rifleman mix brown suger andcayan pepper Smokein asmoker in hickery smoke for a couple hours
05:04 * speed_linux sees wannabe needs drivers
05:04 speed_linux what for?
05:04 wannabe1987 wireless card for the dell
05:04 clony101 her hard drice
05:05 clony101 oh
05:05 Druidic_Rifleman Hey steve Why not make a beltfed pnumati nerf auto cocker?
05:05 speed_linux do you have the instalation cd that came with the purchace/
05:05 clony101 did you get the issue sorted out for the blue screen
05:05 CaptainNiobe driverguide.com?
05:05 speed_linux no.
05:05 wannabe1987 speed_linux we bought the laptop from tgg
05:05 speed_linux check the manufacturers website
05:05 egrsteve the noodle cannon when loaded with a non-nerf dart results in a time traveling dart
05:06 clony101 lol
05:06 speed_linux wannabe check the manufacteres website, it should contain the most up to date driver
05:06 wannabe1987 speed_linux i know...
05:06 egrsteve a loud report is heard, the barrel is clear but no dart is seen exiting or anyware to be seen
05:06 wannabe1987 they're from 06 :P
05:06 Druidic_Rifleman Probly cause ou have 10 times as much pressure as needed?
05:06 clony101 wannabe did you have to put a card in it or did they didnt find a driver
05:06 Druidic_Rifleman and a rather large air chamber
05:07 egrsteve no standard nerf darts shoot fine and are locatable
05:07 wannabe1987 the wireless doesn't work.  i got it working with an ethernet crossover cable, but its 1am and i don't feel like setting that up.  i'm lazy; sue me.  i just got home from GR
05:07 tonsofpcs standard nerf shoots fine?!
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05:07 Druidic_Rifleman Supposedly
05:07 wannabe1987 hi tonsofpcs
05:07 tonsofpcs egrsteve: standard nerf shoots fine?!
05:07 egrsteve I have about a 1 litre resovore
05:07 speed_linux yay for wannabe using a crossover cable
05:07 egrsteve yes, just not an odd non nerf dart
05:08 tonsofpcs oh, you're talking the projectile not the weapon
05:08 speed_linux wannabe1987, how did you configure that because i had troubble doing that once
05:08 * CaptainNiobe is waiting for 74 xp updates to install themselves on pentium 3
05:08 tonsofpcs /firing mechanism
05:08 egrsteve well mostly fine, too much pressure and you can split a dart in half
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05:08 Druidic_Rifleman smoler air chamber wuld lesson that
05:08 wannabe1987 speed_linux i did it with mantere's help
05:08 speed_linux did you "bridge it"?
05:08 clony101_ fuck i have a tail
05:08 wannabe1987 yes
05:08 tonsofpcs only if it isn't properly lubricated.
05:08 egrsteve i know it was desined for firing fun noodles though
05:08 wannabe1987 it was bridged
05:09 wannabe1987 oooo lube!
05:09 speed_linux ok, i think i know how to do that in windows, but i didnt know how to do it in linux
05:09 Druidic_Rifleman at 300 PSI a 2 inchchamber can accellerate a nerf mini foot ball to 240 PBS or some thin in same like that
05:09 egrsteve which it launches 50 to 75 ft
05:09 * clony101_ **facepalm at the word lube**
05:09 speed_linux which anoyed me
05:09 wannabe1987 clony has a tail!
05:10 * CaptainNiobe thinks about lubing bike chain
05:10 wannabe1987 someone, quick, do surgery
05:10 CaptainNiobe :P
05:10 speed_linux lubricants are used when doing network pulls sutch as fiber optics
05:10 egrsteve I am running 100psi max it does nice around 40ish
05:10 tonsofpcs lubricant gets used whenever stuff can get caught but shouldn't.
05:10 clony101_ hey wannabe when you texted me this morning...you gave me information i did not need to know and now im scared for life
05:10 wannabe1987 sorry :(
05:10 wannabe1987 now i know who you are tho...
05:10 wannabe1987 and it wasn't that :P
05:11 clony101_ oh yeah forgot to tell you that im lwq
05:11 wannabe1987 HI LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
05:11 wannabe1987 i survived my day off line...
05:11 * clony101_ gets out hack saw
05:11 wannabe1987 did you suvive?
05:11 wannabe1987 survive*
05:11 clony101 yes
05:11 wannabe1987 ok.
05:11 speed_linux :D
05:11 * clony101 bandages up and cleans up mess
05:12 speed_linux i pritty mutch solved my tail problem, you have   to configure secondary names on your client
05:12 egrsteve also for firing nerf darts a barrel made of 1/2 cpvc reamed to .505 is perfect
05:12 speed_linux clony101, ^
05:12 clony101 speed how do u do that
05:13 speed_linux for me in xchat its under list of networks, of all places
05:13 speed_linux it will varry for different clients
05:13 clony101 damn i dont have a networks tab
05:14 speed_linux AHHH im going to do my lab now BYEE
05:14 wannabe1987 :(
05:14 wannabe1987 bye speed_linux
05:14 speed_linux ill be back when i finish
05:14 wannabe1987 but i might not  be.  exhausted
05:14 speed_linux just it might be verry late
05:14 tonsofpcs too easy...
05:16 clony101 ok let me try this
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05:17 clony101 yay
05:17 wannabe1987 wb lee.  why'd you change nicks?
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05:20 clony i back but known as clony
05:22 wannabe1987 why did you switch from lwq to clony?
05:22 clony idk
05:22 clony101 i got bored of the name
05:22 * wannabe1987 doesn't feel good :(
05:23 clony101 awe **hugs wannabe** whats wrong
05:23 wannabe1987 stuffy nose, bug bites, sore throat
05:23 wannabe1987 DAMN MOSQUITOS
05:23 clony101 im like csmonster now...or katemonster if you want to call her that
05:23 clony101 lol
05:23 clony101 im sneezing like crazzy
05:24 wannabe1987 i need to take my allergy pill.  i spent all day outside and now i'm paying for it
05:24 clony101 but you got paid for it didnt you
05:24 egrsteve time for sleep, morning all
05:25 tonsofpcs g'nite
05:25 wannabe1987 well, i'm working off money. my parent paid for my state test
05:25 wannabe1987 night steve
05:25 clony101 morning steve
05:26 clony101 .seen batsteve
05:26 BotSteve clony101: I last saw batsteve 24.57 hours ago at 2011-08-16 04:51:58 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 05:26:20 UTC
05:26 clony101 wo
05:26 clony101 wow
05:27 * clony101 pokes wannabe
05:27 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: MattG on Good place to buy rare earth magnets?
05:27 * wannabe1987 got poked
05:28 * wannabe1987 pokes back at clony101
05:29 * clony101 is bored
05:30 * wannabe1987 is itchy
05:30 clony101 is wannabe gona be on computer tomorrow or do u have to work
05:31 wannabe1987 its gonna rain; i'll be online :)
05:31 clony101 damn its gona rain up here then
05:31 wannabe1987 :(
05:32 wannabe1987 ah. isolated t-storms
05:32 wannabe1987 and humid
05:32 wannabe1987 good day  to stay INSIDE
05:32 clony101 lol
05:35 clony101 botsteve should i go to bd
05:35 BotSteve Nope
05:36 wannabe1987 lol
05:39 clony101 screw you botsteve im going to bed
05:40 wannabe1987 night lee
05:40 clony101 night kelly
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05:46 wannabe1987 so.
05:46 wannabe1987 i met this guy tonight, who is a total geek...he's going to MIT in MI...
05:47 wannabe1987 and i asked him if he's heard of the geek group.  and he goes "I'm sure theres lots of geek groups" and i go, no the one on leonard...its a non-profit called "the geek group".  i'll send you a link on fb tonight.  he goes "ok"
05:47 wannabe1987 he used to live near it...
05:50 * wannabe1987 goes to bed, night peeps
05:52 Thermoelectric Goodnight wannabe1987
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06:11 speedrunnerG55 help
06:11 speedrunnerG55 i forgot how to turn on a driver in linux
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06:45 NeWtoz modprobe?
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07:47 tggmc well it's been fun guys, cprossu, signing off in the dead of night/early morning for the last time at mc.
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09:23 pegasus http://www.wimp.com/hardway/
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11:37 Seroster BatSteve-Away.... I want yoooou
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12:18 yNos|away G'mornin all
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12:23 BotSteve At last!  My only friend!
12:26 yNos hiya speed
12:26 speedrunnerG55 >_>
12:26 speedrunnerG55 imy video driver in ubuntu is "not in use"
12:27 speedrunnerG55 idk how to fix that
12:36 MadManMarkAu Oh, fucking YAY!
12:36 MadManMarkAu That's just great.
12:37 MadManMarkAu AVT Libc 1.6.4 has a malloc/realloc/free memory leak
12:37 MadManMarkAu *AVR
12:37 MadManMarkAu ...that's the version that came with my Arduino
12:37 * MadManMarkAu attempts to recompile AVR Libc with updated sources
12:41 Seroster Ahoy yNos, MadManMarkAu and speedrunnerG55
12:58 MadManMarkAu Yo Seroster
12:58 MadManMarkAu Massive compile is massive, it's compiling libc for each and every AVR chip type...
13:00 Seroster O?
13:00 CaptainNiobe and i thought i have enough problems trying to set up an xp pro gameserver... lol...
13:02 CaptainNiobe oh, that's nice: Transfer rate: 666KB/Sec
13:02 CaptainNiobe lol
13:10 CaptainNiobe did i scare everyone silent? O.O
13:11 yNos hiya MadManMarkAu
13:11 yNos and CaptainNiobe
13:12 Seroster It was silent before you joined
13:12 CaptainNiobe g'day ynos, how you doing?
13:12 Seroster It's lika 8am in GR
13:12 yNos CaptainNiobe: I am at work and cant watch irc closely...  so i am spurty in my comms ;)
13:12 yNos I am doing fine.. other than this work stuff..
13:12 yNos how are things there?
13:12 yNos is 9:12am no
13:12 yNos **right now
13:13 yNos been here for 2 hrs and am still feeling the need for coffee.
13:13 CaptainNiobe lol... that's ok ynos, you're here and can sorta chat... good enough for everyone, i reckon... it's 11:13pm here in australia, and i'm still fighting this computer lol
13:14 yNos ANFO - (sometimes) the cause and (almost always) cure for any major computer issues.
13:15 CaptainNiobe anfo?
13:15 yNos AmoniumNitrate and Fuel Oil
13:15 yNos makes a good boom
13:15 CaptainNiobe lol... not for this one, i'm setting it up as a game server...
13:16 yNos is the service a piece of junk, or is it the hardware?
13:17 yNos or (!GASP!) is it a MS platform and you are fighting with something or another...
13:17 CaptainNiobe p3, 512mb ram, 1.2ghz cpu, 80gb hard drive... :P
13:18 yNos what more do you need?
13:18 CaptainNiobe well, i've never handled a real server before, so i'm setting it up on xp professional... it's only a small game, doesn't take much to run, so once it's all done, i'll go ok i think
13:18 CaptainNiobe in any case, the p3 isn't the problem atm, that's done, it's setting up the game and everything it needs for the database and such
13:19 yNos ahh
13:19 yNos what game?
13:20 CaptainNiobe unlikely you or anyone else here has heard of it... endless online or endless edge... it's a 2.5d mmorpg, the engine of which has been released publically (called vodka)...
13:21 yNos nah, i am not a gamer
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13:21 yNos is the rest of the game free?
13:21 yNos G'mornin Wannabe!
13:21 wannabe1987 hi
13:21 CaptainNiobe neither am i really, i just want to make my own game and not have idiots on it... lol...
13:21 CaptainNiobe hey wannabe :)
13:21 wannabe1987 hey CaptainNiobe
13:22 CaptainNiobe :)
13:22 yNos That is why we setup an EQ server back in the day.. then we had our accounts sacked because we did it.. prepayed a year and everything...
13:22 wannabe1987 omg i feel like CRAP.  and i am really really sore.  i think its a combo of being sick and pulling weeds and dancing...
13:23 yNos Wannabe: what club do you dance at?
13:23 yNos ;)
13:23 yNos :P
13:23 wannabe1987 i swing dance
13:23 wannabe1987 so rosa parks circle :P
13:24 CaptainNiobe this one is fully legal and consented by the original creator of the game... and it was always free... :) *hands wannabe some tigerbalm for those sore muscles*
13:24 yNos you going to go to GREMN on saturday?
13:24 wannabe1987 no, i won't be in gr
13:24 wannabe1987 thanks CaptainNiobe
13:24 CaptainNiobe welcome :D
13:25 yNos I will be up by the bridge.. we are doing a benefit ride from meijer on 10 mile up to St. Ignace.
13:25 yNos the midnight ride
13:25 yNos we leave at 11:59:59pm fri night.
13:25 wannabe1987 nice
13:25 yNos land up there between 7-9am
13:25 CaptainNiobe that sounds sweet... i so wish i could come...
13:26 yNos hop a flight.. my co-rider bailed on me.
13:26 CaptainNiobe disability pensioner, and no passport... :-\
13:26 yNos at least the hotel is paid for already.
13:26 CaptainNiobe otherwise i would
13:26 yNos suck
13:27 CaptainNiobe yes, it does...
13:27 wannabe1987 hmmm what is it for, yNos
13:27 yNos Juvinile Diabetes Research Fund
13:27 wannabe1987 aweome
13:27 yNos there are over 2k riders registered and paid for already...
13:27 wannabe1987 o.O
13:27 yNos yeah...
13:28 yNos a lot of fcking bikes.
13:28 CaptainNiobe that's going to be one awesome midnight ride...
13:28 wannabe1987 really loud midnight ride...
13:28 wannabe1987 and i don't think i could stay awake the whole time...
13:28 Seroster I feel like a fucking junkie
13:28 wannabe1987 plus being sick...:(
13:28 yNos It is mostly GoldWings and other touring bikes..
13:28 wannabe1987 Seroster thats cuz you are?  and why?
13:29 yNos so not too loud
13:29 CaptainNiobe lol... probs won't be as loud as it could be, 2,000+ riders are going to streatch a long way back...
13:29 wannabe1987 right...
13:29 Seroster Blood test
13:29 wannabe1987 ah.  :(
13:29 Seroster They drew FIVE FUCKING GALLONS
13:29 Seroster And I'm all bruised and shit.
13:29 yNos lorf
13:29 wannabe1987 did the vampires take your blood?
13:29 wannabe1987 um....
13:29 yNos not so much phlebotomists as boxing instructor?
13:30 yNos i seem to get the boxing instructors when i donate blood..
13:30 wannabe1987 "in the average adult body there is approx 1.5 gallons of blood.  "  Seroster they can't take 5 gallons
13:30 wannabe1987 they can take 5 vials...but not 5 gallons
13:30 Seroster FIVE GALLONS
13:31 Seroster yNos, The bitch used a corkscrew...
13:31 yNos wannabe: he went in looking like Ron Jeremy and now looks like a piece of beef jerkey..
13:31 wannabe1987 apparnetly
13:31 * CaptainNiobe giggles
13:31 Seroster When she put a rubber tube around my arm and started tapping I was like "...Get the spoon and lighter soon?"
13:31 Seroster And yNos, I am rather slim. There is only one bodily attribute I share with Ron. And it aint the moustache.
13:31 yNos it wierds them out if you act excited to get poked.
13:32 wannabe1987 lol
13:32 wannabe1987 how would you know?!
13:32 yNos then act sad because you didnt get anything from it.
13:32 Seroster xD
13:32 yNos Seroster: do you mean you are a hairy beast?
13:32 Seroster I want my fucking lollipop! That kid next to me got one, why didnt I?!
13:32 yNos because if that is the case, we share a common trait.
13:32 Seroster yNos, No, not that either. I have the hair growth of a 7 year old girl.
13:32 yNos Testostorone, i has it.
13:33 Seroster I'm 19 and I shave one strand at a time.
13:33 yNos if you are talking about p3n0r size...
13:33 yNos there is a reason my ex's call me "Pie Plate"
13:33 yNos ;)
13:33 yNos pfft
13:33 yNos i just lol'd
13:33 CaptainNiobe ... i *really* needed to know that... :P
13:33 yNos irl
13:34 CaptainNiobe Seroster, look at it this way: the less hair you have, the less cuts shaving is going to give you... :D
13:35 Seroster xD
13:35 CaptainNiobe see? not such a bad thing
13:35 Seroster CaptainNiobe, I don't miss it. If I ever DO get a lot of facial hair I'll nuke the fuck out of it with a lazer.
13:35 yNos nah, was just tryint ot make people feel uncomfortable.
13:36 yNos they actually call me the tape worm.
13:36 yNos fold it over a few times, works like a charm..
13:36 * yNos giggles
13:36 CaptainNiobe LOL!!!
13:37 Seroster Don't tapeworms live in asses?
13:37 Seroster (I gave you that one)
13:37 yNos Shaving sucks.
13:37 yNos i only do it 2 times a week
13:37 CaptainNiobe tapeworms live in intestines and exit out of asses :P
13:38 yNos yyup
13:38 yNos tapeworms get swallowed.
13:38 Seroster ...And that is what is so amusing about them
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13:40 yNos YAY! one of our 128 socket machines just loas a core :(
13:40 CaptainNiobe huh?
13:40 yNos so we are now down 4 cores..
13:40 yNos until HP gets here to swap it out.
13:41 tlockley 128 sockets?
13:41 yNos i dont understand why everything but the cells are n+1..
13:41 yNos yeah.. 128 sockets
13:41 yNos it runs HP/UX and vPars
13:42 tlockley as in CPU sockes
13:42 yNos so the thing is partitioned down to the socket.
13:42 yNos yeah
13:42 tlockley dang. I assume it is some Super-HA HP server(s)
13:43 yNos yup
13:43 tlockley cool. How is working with HP/UX?
13:44 yNos it is 4Xsuperdome2 loaded to the gills with backplane binders.
13:44 yNos It works pretty well
13:44 yNos we will likely be migrating off of them within the next 4 years though...
13:45 yNos since oracle will no longer support itanium..
13:45 yNos b1tches
13:45 tlockley lame
13:45 tlockley I remember when itanium was supposed to change the world and cure cancer
13:45 yNos and give free HJs in its offtime.
13:45 yNos flop
13:46 yNos Not sure what way we are going to go.
13:46 yNos either IBM or with a different database..
13:46 tlockley *sarcasm* NOSQL!
13:47 yNos i am gunning for DB2 on hp/ux
13:47 yNos or on AIX
13:47 yNos fck oracle.
13:47 yNos they took solaris off the table for us.
13:47 tlockley I honestly have never used DB2. Is it SQL or K/V or what?
13:47 Seroster Hey yNos, What do you think about Ron J as an actor, not as a... Stud?
13:48 yNos i like solaris better, as an admin.. but oracle owns it and their business fills me with rage.
13:48 yNos i think it is SQL
13:48 Seroster He did a great role as... Himself... In the movie One Eyed Monster, wich in essence is a team of adult movie makers in the mountains, Ron's dick gets posessed by an alien and starts killing people.  Best movie I've ever seen.
13:48 yNos but i dont do much with the DB side.. am just a unix weenie right now.
13:49 tlockley i get ya
13:49 yNos never watched anything with RJ in it other than the occasional cameo as himself..
13:49 yNos i dont really watch tv or  movies.
13:50 Seroster Heh
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13:50 Seroster Thepiratebay...
13:50 Seroster He is a pretty crappy porn actor, but he does a decent job in cameos..
13:50 yNos nah, i'd rather go out and work on a bike, radio, whatever.
13:50 tggmc good morning folks, last day here at the lab for me
13:51 Seroster tggmc, Morning... Cprossu?
13:51 yNos what time does the plane leave?
13:51 tggmc I leave for the airport in 2 hr ~10 min
13:51 tggmc yep
13:51 tggmc plane boards at 2:20 or so
13:51 tggmc or 2:40
13:51 tggmc we'll see
13:51 yNos what time d oyou land?
13:52 tggmc it's got a connection
13:52 tggmc so I spend a few hours in chicago
13:53 tggmc at least they've got good food at that airport though :D
13:53 wannabe1987 awwww bye cprossu
13:53 wannabe1987 glad i could meetchya
13:53 tggmc it's been fun, and likewise!
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13:55 wannabe1987 life ems was just parked outside...o.O
13:57 MadManMarkAu Yay!
13:57 MadManMarkAu New LIBC for AVR compiled and working
13:57 MadManMarkAu Recompiled Arduino sources into a library
13:57 MadManMarkAu Fixed broken dependancies in Arduino source
13:57 MadManMarkAu Compiled my probram using enw libs and includes
13:57 tggmc yeah I think I am happy with master control for the time being
13:57 MadManMarkAu Works like an effing charm!
13:58 wannabe1987 tggmc thats good :)
13:58 tlockley are there any good pics of master control? I only realy get to see fleeting glimpses in the vids
13:58 MadManMarkAu Oh, is that cprossu?
13:58 tggmc tlockley check out the stream
13:58 tggmc I can give you a little tour if you want
13:59 SparkyProjects I bet you'll be glad to get home for a rest :D
13:59 tggmc .stream
13:59 BotSteve The Geek Group Live Web Stream can be found at: http://justin.tv/thegeekgroup
13:59 tggmc SparkyProjects I may sleep for a week.
13:59 tlockley hey tggmc, I see you
13:59 tlockley ugh, ads
13:59 MadManMarkAu tggmc: Is that Cprossu?
13:59 tggmc I'll wait for yuh
13:59 tggmc yeah that's me
13:59 MadManMarkAu kewl
13:59 tlockley and were back
13:59 tggmc tlockley let me know when you are clear of ads
14:00 MadManMarkAu only 3-4 secs lag, sweet
14:00 tlockley thanks
14:02 tlockley color bars, yay
14:02 tlockley nope
14:03 tlockley oooooooh
14:03 MadManMarkAu Niiice
14:03 tlockley wow, what a trip
14:04 tlockley wow
14:04 tlockley I need to get the money together to come visit
14:04 MadManMarkAu tggmc: show him the wonders of that ANALOGUE (no digital components at all) video mixer :D
14:04 tlockley analog effects
14:04 SparkyProjects hmm, that's interesting about .bmk
14:04 SparkyProjects "Bookmark file created by PowerDVD, an advanced video player for HD and 3D  movies; contains a bookmark, called a MovieMark, for a video, including a  timestamp, video information, and user comments."
14:05 tlockley wow, i feel like im in an 80s tv show
14:05 wannabe1987 hi SparkyProjects
14:05 MadManMarkAu Wayne's World, Wayne's World, party time, excellent!
14:05 SparkyProjects Hi wannabe :)
14:06 tlockley nice color
14:06 MadManMarkAu The younger of our crowd may be too young to get that movie reference
14:06 tlockley that is amazing that someone came up with how to do that in analog
14:06 tlockley you can layer effects?>
14:07 tlockley yep
14:07 tlockley thats amazing.
14:08 tlockley whoah
14:08 MadManMarkAu Needs adjusting, according to that scope
14:08 tlockley I remember chris babling about this in a video earlier
14:08 MadManMarkAu More gain
14:09 tlockley have you though about trying to link the live stream with like google+ hangouts?
14:09 tlockley i get ya
14:10 tlockley yep
14:10 MadManMarkAu What si a character generator?
14:10 tlockley i have done a lot of sdi/hd-sdi work
14:12 tlockley nifty
14:12 * MadManMarkAu worships tggmc's memory recall skills
14:12 MadManMarkAu So, what is a character generator?
14:12 tlockley I see, so really you need the rest of the inputs SDI now
14:12 MadManMarkAu Ah, overlay thing
14:12 MadManMarkAu Got you
14:13 tlockley wow. yah and sdi cams are super expensive
14:13 Av_Nekoroms sdi is good but my cam cannot do it :)
14:13 MadManMarkAu I should investigate the SDI standard and see if I can build a converter
14:13 Av_Nekoroms its only an 1800 dollar sony
14:13 tggmc QSI model 908 image inserter
14:14 tlockley I can dig around. I know some people with lots of tv and vid experience
14:15 MadManMarkAu Wow, SDI is a pretty easy standard...
14:16 MadManMarkAu It's litterally YCrCb digitized and interleaved.
14:16 tlockley GOOD GOD!
14:18 tlockley magic
14:18 MadManMarkAu Kill it with fire >_<
14:18 MadManMarkAu Sadly, I've seen things as bad as this at my work... Stupid Asian programmers >_<
14:18 tlockley yep, i do love me a good puzzle
14:19 tlockley the orban is a audio processor?
14:19 tlockley yay docs
14:20 tggmc Orban 8282
14:20 MadManMarkAu Oh god, I love good docs
14:20 MadManMarkAu +Like
14:20 tlockley do the camers push composite or component?
14:20 MadManMarkAu composite, iirc
14:21 tlockley yep. Beta is still used even today
14:21 tlockley dang
14:22 MadManMarkAu WTF!?! justin.tv is pushing www.FlatPlanet.tv as a "related channel" to the TGG stream... @______@
14:22 tggmc meh
14:22 wannabe1987 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2011/08/16/the-tiniest-little-desktop-ever-video/
14:23 wannabe1987 o.O
14:23 MadManMarkAu D'awwww~
14:23 tlockley check this out http://www.aja.com/products/converters/converters-hd-hd10ava.php
14:24 tlockley nice. how tall is that?
14:24 tlockley WOW, just wow
14:26 MadManMarkAu Hmm, loose cable
14:27 tlockley well joe does build some cool things
14:27 tlockley yep
14:28 MadManMarkAu I should sleep...
14:28 tlockley I have a similar pendulum that is about 1/32 of that size
14:28 tlockley OS?
14:29 tlockley could be worse. Could run windows ME
14:29 MadManMarkAu XP > 7 for thig kind of stuff
14:29 tlockley yah
14:29 tlockley ASIO can be such crap
14:29 SparkyProjects I sent a few windows OS cd's, win 98 i think was one of them
14:29 CaptainNiobe omg, like, finally, the server is up and running and accessible... i just forgot a few files, which will take like 2 minutes to put in, that's it... i'm happy and relieved it's all over... and entire day working on one system isn't the most fun... :D
14:30 MadManMarkAu tggmc: How long does the Focault's pendulum swing for before it needs a boost?
14:30 tggmc good deal
14:31 MadManMarkAu I've noticed pendulums do that... I have no idea why
14:31 tlockley all the SDI switchers are non HD-SDI or 3G-SDI right
14:31 tlockley yep
14:31 SparkyProjects I think i worked out it runs for about 3 hours
14:31 SparkyProjects and i mentioned on a captain's blog that other pendulums have a drive to keep it going
14:31 SparkyProjects On one you can hear the 'tick'
14:32 tlockley well I am gonna bug some people to see if they can cut me a deal on sdi converters
14:32 SparkyProjects Something like a clock mech
14:32 MadManMarkAu Speampunk science!
14:32 MadManMarkAu *Steampunk
14:32 MadManMarkAu MAN, my typing is bad tonight
14:32 tlockley well I am already perparing to send an apple ZServe RAID
14:33 tlockley *XServe
14:33 tlockley damn
14:33 tlockley Lol
14:33 MadManMarkAu Okay, need sleep
14:33 MadManMarkAu nini
14:34 tlockley yah i am seinding a g5 solo xserve and raid with about 3tb of drives
14:34 tlockley good. well that RAID takes only PATA tho :(
14:35 * wannabe1987 gonna get dressed and run to the store...need oj if i'm gonna attempt to get better
14:35 tlockley how do you control the wcam
14:35 MadManMarkAu Wait, the weather cam remote is on the web?
14:35 tlockley sweet
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14:37 tlockley you should see if someone can cook up a wireless IP cam with a battery
14:37 tlockley they can do wireless senders?
14:38 tlockley bad ass
14:38 SparkyProjects tlockley, you can get wireless security cams, the AV senders have been around for years, obviously studio cams have a better version
14:39 tlockley how is the signal noise?
14:39 tlockley those have to be long runs
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14:40 tggmc producerbill hello!
14:40 tlockley using vid to cat5 converters or raw cat5?
14:40 tggmc we were just commenting on your weathercam remote setup
14:40 producerbill hi tggmc
14:40 producerbill good or bad comments?
14:41 tlockley just another reason why cat5 is THE universal cable
14:41 tlockley ok
14:41 producerbill tggmc I need access through the router for final building
14:42 tlockley ooh wow
14:42 producerbill tggmc, there is a ton if stuff happening in the back ground
14:42 tlockley so those are just raw signal to 8p8c converts
14:43 tlockley i see
14:43 tggmc totally understood.
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14:43 tggmc btw I got you another identically configured computer producerbill
14:43 tggmc cap card and all
14:44 tlockley how many cameras do you have that are constantly in use?
14:44 tlockley or in general
14:46 yNos Trevor, are ou going to make the pilgrimage to mecca?
14:46 yNos or anyone else for that matter...
14:46 tlockley I am thinking about it. It may actually be cheaper than trying to ship all that xserve stuff
14:46 tlockley $75 just to ship the HDDs
14:47 tggmc when everything gets going we'll have over 20 cameras hopefully going
14:47 tlockley it will cost me $100 off season to get a 1month openended boat ticket to take my car
14:47 tggmc currently we have ~8-9
14:47 yNos producerbill: we can setup the openbsd machine so you have access.. it has gcc installed so you can make a web api if'n you want...
14:47 yNos it will give you some isolation..
14:48 tlockley I am looking at some of the converters from blackmagic design and they arent nearly as expensive as the aja equiment
14:48 tlockley though it is till around $500 per camera
14:48 tggmc yeah which is... a tiny bit out of our budget as it stands ^_^
14:49 tlockley yep
14:50 tlockley cool. thanks for the tour
14:50 tlockley nice
14:51 tlockley just cause its fuzzy doesent mean it always works
14:51 tlockley yes in deed
14:51 SparkyProjects Have a safe  trip home :)
14:52 tlockley ditto
14:52 tggmc thanks!
14:52 yNos tlockley: wait till we get the bunkhouse prepped.. or plan on a hotel..
14:52 tlockley yep. well the summer season isnt through yet. I think the seasons switch sometime mid september
14:53 tlockley right now its $150 each direction and the wait list is almost 2 weeks long
14:53 yNos damn
14:53 yNos how far off the mainland are you?
14:54 tlockley ~30mi
14:54 tlockley check it out.
14:54 tlockley .g Nantucket, MA
14:54 BotSteve tlockley: http://nantucket-ma.gov/Pages/index
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15:00 producerbill yNos, did you ever open me a port in the router?
15:03 producerbill guess that is a no.
15:03 producerbill lol
15:07 SparkyProjects producerbill, yNos is at work, he said his posts will be sketchy
15:07 producerbill darn
15:09 CaptainNiobe SUCCESS! my server is 100% ready! 15 hours of work, and... YAY! well, of course, that's once i put it under my desk... :D
15:11 producerbill great to hear
15:11 producerbill 15 hour install,,,, Hummer guessing Unix.
15:11 producerbill guessing
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15:12 CaptainNiobe no, 15 hours from first powering it on to having it 100% accessible witjht eh game... figuring out why it wasn't reading from cd rom was just the first 4 or 5 hours... that turned out to be the jumper pins :P
15:13 producerbill Fucking jumpers
15:14 CaptainNiobe it's actually running xp pro... and once i figured out the jumper settings, instqalling and updating was no issue, just time sonsuming... but then i had to install and configure the server exe and everything else i needed to run the server remotely
15:15 CaptainNiobe so basically, it's just a normal xp system running as a webserving machine
15:17 CaptainNiobe and to be honest, i owe it all to Sgt_Lemming, he let me become a paying member of hackerspace brisbane, and he let me take this p3 home as it was a resource... thank you, lemming... *big hugs*
15:18 producerbill tggmc, I am headed to the lab be there soon.
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15:22 ajprog_laptop I will let him know
15:22 goodrichtires hello everyone
15:28 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Alphageek on Remote webcam access
15:29 SparkyProjects Hi goodrichtires
15:40 goodrichtires why is there a bot in here
15:41 SparkyProjects It helps with certain functions, for instance
15:41 SparkyProjects .stream
15:41 BotSteve The Geek Group Live Web Stream can be found at: http://justin.tv/thegeekgroup
15:41 SparkyProjects Or it can interact
15:41 SparkyProjects Hi BotSteve
15:41 BotSteve Cheers SparkyProjects
15:42 SparkyProjects .cookie goodrichtires
15:42 BotSteve Here you go, goodrichtires, I baked you a butter pecan cookie!
15:59 wannabe1987 lol
16:00 wannabe1987 so the mini frosties at wendies are only .48$ :D
16:08 Seroster Sup SparkyProjects
16:08 Seroster Hows life and the grandkids?
16:08 SparkyProjects All is well :)
16:08 Seroster I hope she aint pregnant? I kinda forgot to.. Eh. Nevermind.
16:09 SparkyProjects ??
16:09 Seroster Just teasing you =P
16:09 SparkyProjects That's not a good tesae
16:10 Seroster Yeah, if the teased doesnt get it I would concider it a faliure =P
16:13 Seroster Why is it "you failed" but "A faliure?" Or is that second one even correct?
16:23 wannabe1987 beer and bacon mac'n'cheese
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16:39 speed_sp-win7 hey there everyone
16:40 speed_sp-win7 mabe i shouldnt identify myself that mutch
16:40 wannabe1987 speed!
16:40 wannabe1987 you know, you don't need to tell us where you are....
16:40 speed_school wannabe!
16:40 wannabe1987 when i'm at my parents i don't do /nick wannabe-parents
16:41 speed_school no, i was thinking it would be a security threat, if i gave away my location and os
16:41 speed_school to potentiall ppeople i dont know
16:41 speed_school w/e
16:50 * speed_school pokes wannabe
16:50 wannabe1987 o.O lee just poked me, you too?!
16:50 speed_school lol
16:55 wannabe1987 o god this tastes nasty...
16:59 speed_school bakon burger?
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17:01 Sasha__ .log
17:01 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
17:02 Sasha__ oh hai
17:02 speed_school hey Sasha__
17:02 wannabe1987 hi Sasha__.
17:02 speed_school my my what a large tail you have there Sasha__
17:02 wannabe1987 speed_school what? no, the emergen-c tastes nasty
17:02 Sasha__ Hi speed_school wannabe1987
17:03 speed_school i usaed to like that stuff :P
17:03 Sasha__ Well the tail is because someone keeps stealing my name :P
17:03 speed_school used
17:03 wannabe1987 Sasha__ who would steal your nick?!
17:04 Sasha__ Dunno. Maybe some other Sasha?
17:04 wannabe1987 odd
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17:11 wannabe1987 wb
17:13 sahsa :D
17:13 wannabe1987 spelled wrong
17:15 [sasha] :D
17:16 * [sasha] is done being a girl
17:16 [sasha] lol jk
17:16 wannabe1987 ...
17:16 wannabe1987 sasha = boy...
17:19 speed_school thats why i said jk
17:19 speed_school :)
17:25 speed_school >_>
17:26 wannabe1987 o
17:28 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:
17:28 BotSteve Captain's Blog 8-16-11 Batman's Truck and Bills Camera Controller http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO4aCauZBnM
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17:33 producerbill welcome to the irc jungle
17:34 wannabe1987 hi
17:35 producerbill yo
17:35 wannabe1987 sup
17:36 producerbill working,,,, and thinking of data stuff
17:36 producerbill you?
17:37 tlockley producerbill: i like the wcam controller thingy you made
17:38 producerbill thanks, I need to get the icd written so a web client can be made.
17:38 tlockley icd?
17:38 producerbill interface control document
17:38 tlockley similar to api?
17:39 producerbill I have the camera control part written, but the image part needs work.
17:39 producerbill kind of like a API
17:40 tlockley what would you normally connect to an ICD?
17:41 producerbill Icd's are not really code, it is just a set of command or data structures.
17:42 producerbill kind of like command in telnet, or SSH
17:42 tlockley i think i get it. Off to the googles
17:46 tlockley so icds describe commands that can be passed?
17:46 Seroster How do you find out what kind of a resistor a LED needs without knowing any of it's numbers?
17:47 producerbill yep
17:47 producerbill you got it
17:48 producerbill also they can describe data structures
17:48 tlockley so what the camera sends as info out
17:48 producerbill you need to know something about the led
17:50 speed_school the leds maximum current it can handle
17:50 producerbill yes, like a byte stream of data. kind of like a msp430 data stream.
17:50 speed_school you wwould have to limit with the resistor
17:51 Seroster Erm
17:51 Seroster I have a pile of scrap LEDs
17:52 Seroster Some bought second hand (unused) - most scrapped from old electronics.
17:52 Seroster I will have like 9 in paralell, as a bike light.
17:53 Seroster Fart a number of ohms at me and I'll pick the ones that give similar light levels
17:53 Seroster Or just burn. That's fine too.
17:54 tlockley what electronics store did you get the leds from?
17:54 Seroster Private person.
17:55 Seroster A few years ago I got a set of 50 diodes from a proper store, they had schematics for the resistance needed, so I suppose they were all in the same range
17:55 tlockley well from personal experience most electronics leds are 1.5, 3.3, and 5 v leds. so look up some average confurations for each of the three and work from the lowest voltage up
17:56 Seroster Either I use the diodes I have for something (and might kill them) or I just look at them. =P
17:57 Seroster The volts I was aiming for something in the 4v range, but the problem is amps (Resistors)
17:57 Seroster I might just strap them to my handlebar, connect to the generator and go for broke. Might become fireworks when I go into the 40kph range, but hey =P
17:57 tlockley well that I would do is try and test and guestimate the specs of an individual led and then do the electics math
17:58 Seroster Any good guesstimations?
17:58 SparkyProjects Basic test i use is 1k resistor on 12 volts
17:58 Seroster Right...
17:59 SparkyProjects Find several led that look the same brightness, connect in parallel, then decrease resistor value until you get it about right
17:59 Seroster Problem is that I don't know how bright they are until I hook them up to a power source, and that might be too late?
18:00 SparkyProjects A variable resistor is handy, once it's set, measure the resisstance
18:00 yNos producerbill: when you ask about a port, are you talking about a tcp port or about wanting an ethernet run out to robotics?
18:01 Seroster SparkyProjects, I was hoping for "Pft, 350 ohms will probably work for most, go apeshit!"
18:01 yNos for a run to robotics, we have someone who will make the cables for us, we just need lenghts.. so if you want to get an idea about where the cable is going to run, measuer that out and get me the lenght.
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18:02 yNos for apache with cgi enabled.. a few hrs of me being there to fix it.
18:02 SparkyProjects Well it depends on the voltage you are going to power them from, and what the specs of the leds are (current), but that's the way i'd do it ^
18:03 yNos we need to finish unfucking the network and get rid of that SMC modem.
18:03 Seroster Can you determine anything from the size of the LED?
18:04 SparkyProjects nope
18:04 SparkyProjects remember that you can get a high brightness led in the same size package as a normal led
18:05 SparkyProjects hi brightness need more current
18:05 Seroster I have no problems with half of my diodes exploding.
18:05 tonsofpcs so, I need to replace some rackmount full-depth UPSs in front-rail only racks (well, they're dual rail, but rail #2 is halfway in).  Any suggestions for decent depth rack-mount power strips?   Minimum 8 sockets, NEMA 5-15 in and out.  (I also need one with a 208v single phase 2-leg input and 4+4 5-15 outs)
18:05 tonsofpcs (full depth being ~24-28 inches)
18:06 Seroster Assume 6 volts, average ohms per diode, The ones that can't handle it are weaker links and thus eliminated (DARWIN POWER!)
18:07 SparkyProjects I would assume the ones you bought would all be the same, so exploding one for the cause is not going to hurt
18:07 SparkyProjects most (older) equipment would use standard leds, so the stripdown ones can be assumed to be the same
18:07 yNos botsteve: tell producerbill go look at the chatlogs for the last 10 mins or so and letme know what you need...
18:07 BotSteve yNos: I'll pass that on when producerbill is around.
18:08 Seroster Tomorrow at 8am I will begin three years of electrical theory, practice and more theory. I am not feeling for calculating my diodes too =P
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18:12 SparkyProjects tonsofpcs, not sure if you can get hold of Olson sockets http://www.olson.co.uk
18:14 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: I'm replacing UPSs in an existing system because we're getting a full-building UPS put in, I need to do this as quickly as possible while the electricians change over service to the panels
18:14 tonsofpcs changing sockets isn't really an option (I may have to on the 208v twist-lock)
18:14 tonsofpcs I like this thing though: http://www.olson.co.uk/pm3262.htm
18:15 tonsofpcs unfortunately, some of our equipment has hardwired power connectors
18:15 tonsofpcs (and many have bricks/cubes)
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18:15 SparkyProjects Yeah, i was just looking at that
18:16 SparkyProjects as for connectors, you should be able to get connectors and chop the old ones off
18:16 tonsofpcs yea, I don't have time to do that.
18:16 SparkyProjects I've got the 10 way sitting under my computer desk http://www.olson.co.uk/13amp_slim.htm
18:17 tonsofpcs also, none of those appear to be full depth.
18:17 tonsofpcs are those combination europlug/UK sockets?
18:17 tonsofpcs or are those dots just screws?
18:18 SparkyProjects Last link is UK, but Olson do them for different countries
18:18 SparkyProjects 3 pins with 2 screws
18:19 tonsofpcs ah, ok
18:19 SparkyProjects I like that as you can change out a faulty socket
18:19 tonsofpcs I've got these things: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5b/Domestic_AC_Type_B_USA.jpg
18:20 tonsofpcs and a bunch of these for studio lights: http://www.revolutionpower.com/p/MARINCO+205PBL+20A125V+NEMA+L5-20+Locking+Plug/134/
18:21 SparkyProjects Personally in a rack, i would cahange all the cords to have IEC connectors, most equipment has IEC, so you just need a IEC to IEC
18:21 tonsofpcs and just a few of these: http://www.clay-king.com/images/nema_520psx1a.jpg
18:22 SparkyProjects It's what we did at work for a server and  'tape robot' that we installed a UPS on
18:22 tonsofpcs I don't have a budget for cords and I'd say at most 50% of my equipment has C14s.
18:22 tonsofpcs and I need to keep this downtime at a minimum
18:26 tonsofpcs my main issue is that most rack-mount power strips seem to be about 2" deep and I'm replacing 24" - 30" deep UPSs...
18:26 tonsofpcs depth being from the mount point to where the cords that plug into them are...
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18:28 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Bill Jones on Remote webcam access
18:29 * tonsofpcs is digging through catalogs
18:30 SparkyProjects I can't say i've seen anything that deep
18:30 SparkyProjects We susually mount from the back, or have like the one i have but vertically at one side of the rack, again at the back
18:30 tonsofpcs yea, I have plugmold vertical in many of these racks (not all) but it is often full or blocked by equipment
18:31 tonsofpcs rear rails are often too deep in as they were moved up to put under-chassis support braces in as we have very little that needs a rear-mount
18:31 tonsofpcs I should really inventory what I have where for rear rails so I know how many I need, but I know that I need at least one deep one...
18:39 SparkyProjects I did a quick search, the only deep PDU's i could find were controllers, and they were expensive (over $500)
18:42 SparkyProjects If you worked it right, you could get some rails and cut short pieces just for mounting the pdu's at the rear, rather than getting full length rails for every rack
18:44 tonsofpcs http://www.tripplite.com/en/products/model.cfm?txtSeriesID=938&amp;txtModelID=2004 are nice (and I have a few of the 'front-facing' switched versions [they just drill the holes in a different spot in the case] in my rolling rack) but not quite deep enough, I don't think
18:44 tonsofpcs yea, unfortunately time is the major concern for most of these.  I suppose some of them I can have pre-installed (some of them there's no space until the UPS is gone)
18:46 SparkyProjects Those are 4.5 inches (11.4cm) deep
18:49 tonsofpcs yea.  I also have a really really cheap 16" deep strip, but I wouldn't trust it in critical use (cheaply built, cheap parts, the rack wings barely stay together)
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19:10 wannabe1987 so i met this guy (geek) at swing last night, he goes to MIT in houghton MI and i asked him if he has heard of the geek group, he told me theres lots of geek groups.  i told him no, therse a non profit in GR called the geek group. he told me he'd check it out, i sent him the website last night.  i also told him there was an IRC also :D
19:10 wannabe1987 hi mikemol
19:10 mikemol lo
19:10 tonsofpcs first rule of geekdom: there's always an IRC.
19:10 wannabe1987 lol.  vex (a girl at the table who had a geek shirt on) was intrigued also ...
19:16 SparkyProjects There's another geek group, it seems to be based in a campervan in Southend Essex UK :D
19:16 SparkyProjects http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=geek+group&amp;hl=en&amp;ll=51.535365,0.705485&amp;spn=0.000013,0.014269&amp;radius=15000&amp;vpsrc=0&amp;z=16&amp;layer=c&amp;cbll=51.535354,0.705689&amp;panoid=MsuMUNA2yOuQUG5N09zgDw&amp;cbp=12,357.87,,0,3.64
19:19 wannabe1987 lol
19:20 * wannabe1987 just got called a recipe queen :D
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20:03 wannabe1987 hi photographer
20:04 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: well, it seems that the only one that really will be a problem is one where the rear rails are too far back.  I think I'm going to front-mount in this rack and make up some extensions
20:05 SparkyProjects Fair enough
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20:12 [Python] Hello Toast
20:12 wannabe1987 TOASTDUDE
20:12 Toastdude Hi [Python]
20:13 Toastdude WANNABE
20:13 wannabe1987 you survived
20:13 Toastdude Survived what?
20:13 wannabe1987 school
20:13 Toastdude Lol, I like school :P
20:14 wannabe1987 thats good.  what grade?
20:14 Toastdude 8th
20:14 wannabe1987 school was easy back then
20:15 Toastdude Yeah...
20:15 Toastdude It is easy
20:24 tonsofpcs surprisingly, tripp lite makes a PDU with a NEMA L5-30 plug on it (30 amp, 120V locking connector)
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20:28 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 3 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Radioactive on Trash Bag Hot Air Balloon.....Bill Jones on Trash Bag Hot Air Balloon.....Bill Jones on Remote webcam access
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20:38 masterofmonks http://tideals.com/
20:40 Toastdude "Error establishing a database connection"
20:41 masterofmonks Refresh.
20:41 Toastdude Ok
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20:54 Seroster Baaaatsteeeeve
20:54 Seroster masterofmonks?
20:54 masterofmonks Seroster:
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22:02 wannabe1987 apparently i'm going up north this weekend.  lets home i'm feeling better...
22:02 wannabe1987 otherwise it'll be semi-miserable...
22:21 wannabe1987 speedrunnerG55 poke
22:27 Seroster ARRRRRRR
22:27 Seroster Screw this
22:28 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Radioactive on Japan devistated by 8.9 Magnitude quake and associated Tsunami.....SitkaGrown on Trash Bag Hot Air Balloon
22:36 tonsofpcs yay north!
22:36 tonsofpcs I'm going south-east this weekendn
22:36 wannabe1987 south east?
22:36 wannabe1987 i'm going north...
22:37 tonsofpcs yea, maryland.
22:37 wannabe1987 ooo
22:37 SparkyProjects tonsofpcs is going to maryland to get his cookies
22:37 tonsofpcs (the equivilant of going two towns over for those of you in western farm country ;)
22:37 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: cookies?
22:38 tonsofpcs I would go to hackensack to get cookies....
22:38 wannabe1987 i'm going to a pow wow and kayaking? maybe....probably not if its too rough...i've never been
22:38 wannabe1987 i'll be afk
22:38 SparkyProjects http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/95/Maryland_cookies.jpg
22:38 tonsofpcs interesting.
22:42 tonsofpcs salt water taffy maybe, not cookies.
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23:21 wannabe1987 hi injektion
23:21 wannabe1987 irc is DEAD
23:22 injektion Hi
23:22 wannabe1987 lol MadManMarkAu
23:22 wannabe1987 The_Necromancer
23:22 injektion Is chlorine powder bad for car paint?
23:22 wannabe1987 not MadManMarkAu, i did that by accident
23:22 * The_Necromancer reanimates the channel.
23:23 The_Necromancer injektion: That is I assume a retorical question?
23:24 injektion The_Necromancer, I drove the Alfa to work and the dust collectors got chlorine dust all over it
23:24 injektion If that thing needs paint any time soon it's going to be expensive for my ex
23:25 injektion They were against me using a car cover
23:28 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Radioactive on Trash Bag Hot Air Balloon
23:30 * speedrunnerG55 pokes wannabe1987
23:31 wannabe1987 hi
23:31 * The_Necromancer whacks speedrunnerG55 in the back of the head, and turns him into a zombie.
23:32 injektion That Alfa is painted in RED
23:32 speedrunnerG55 Omg
23:32 injektion A very expensive red
23:32 * speedrunnerG55 bites wannabe1987
23:32 The_Necromancer injektion: You haven't got a clue what happened to it.
23:32 wannabe1987 ...
23:33 wannabe1987 injektion is it wrong to have a red alfa?
23:33 injektion No
23:33 wannabe1987 my friends 74 alfa is maroon
23:33 wannabe1987 o ok.  you made it sound bad
23:33 injektion The Milano is red and not just any red: Ferrari red
23:34 injektion Ferrari uses some expensive red pigment
23:34 injektion The_Necromancer, I just don't want the paint to get screwed I washed it off as soon as I got home
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23:41 * speedrunnerG55 dies of a feaver
23:41 injektion I wonder why the dust collectors cannot remove chlorine powder from the air
23:41 speedrunnerG55 Fever
23:42 injektion Do cyclone dust collectors have an outlet tube at the top?
23:43 masterofmonks injektion: because they aren't using them right.
23:43 masterofmonks No, at the bottom.
23:43 injektion They have a tube that extends about 10ft into the air, big box at the center, and a bucket at the bottom
23:46 injektion Do you want me to grab you a pic of one?
23:48 masterofmonks I have a pretty good idea of what they look like.
23:48 masterofmonks Here is the question where is the outlet?
23:49 injektion You mean the exhaust?
23:50 masterofmonks Correct.
23:50 injektion At the top
23:50 injektion It looks like a paint booth chimney
23:50 masterofmonks Wait, then where is the intake?
23:50 injektion At the side
23:51 masterofmonks Ah.
23:51 masterofmonks They don't have filters on the outlet like they should.
23:52 masterofmonks Which is freaking BS because it's the crap that is not caught by the cyclone that can do you the most damage.
23:52 injektion So it is a cyclone?
23:53 masterofmonks http://www.google.com/imgres?q=cyclone+dust+collector&amp;um=1&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=N&amp;biw=1024&amp;bih=683&amp;tbm=isch&amp;tbnid=7RJ_aYC1f4xsQM:&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.proventilation.com/applications/application.asp%253FtypeId%253D1&amp;docid=Sn7tdpF5y1L8IM&amp;w=457&amp;h=973&amp;ei=V1RMTo7VOcSpsQLkuayjCA&amp;zoom=1&amp;iact=hc&amp;vpx=416&amp;vpy=213&amp;dur=2084&amp;hovh=328&amp;hovw=154&amp;tx=101&amp;ty=160&amp;page=2&amp;tbnh=196&amp;tbnw=115&amp;start=20&amp;ndsp=15&amp;ved=1t:429,r:6,s:20
23:53 masterofmonks Holy ginormous URL BatSteve!
23:53 injektion It doesn't look like that though
23:54 masterofmonks Not remotely?
23:54 injektion http://www.scientificdustcollectors.com/images/spj-b1.JPG
23:54 injektion It looks like that with an exhaust duct at top
23:55 masterofmonks It's a cyclone.
23:55 masterofmonks And there are supposed to be filters on the outlet.
23:55 * injektion brings that up at tomorrow mornings safety meeting
23:56 masterofmonks Don't get fired.
23:58 injektion Do cyclone dust collectors have pneumatic air lines?
23:58 SparkyProjects Might be better if he did get fired, at least he'll be safe
23:58 SparkyProjects and you could go for an 'unfair dismissal' lawsuit
23:58 SparkyProjects Make sure you get some evidence before you get kicked out
23:58 injektion Georgia is at an at will employment state and the employer WILL and CAN get away with it
23:59 masterofmonks SparkyProjects: Having worked for a somewhat related facility in the same state as him, he would be lucky if he got unemployment.
23:59 injektion The funny thing with the dust collectors is that every 2 minutes or so you will hear what sounds like a compressed air valve opening and some banging inside the dust collector

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