Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-08-19

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00:02 Toastdude joined #thegeekgroup
00:02 wannabe1987 Toastdude send me a one word text please, lee is to lazy to do it
00:05 wannabe1987 thanks toast...my idea failed and you helped prove my hypothesis
00:09 Toastdude What was the idea?
00:12 wannabe1987 using google voice to forward texts to my cell phone w/o using up a minute per text message.  but it stuill uses a minute
00:12 masterofmonks wannabe1987: what kind of phone do you have?
00:13 wannabe1987 a free one from the gov't...
00:13 wannabe1987 tracfone
00:13 masterofmonks Ah.
00:15 Toastdude wannabe1987: Happy to help :P
00:32 Fulsy joined #thegeekgroup
00:34 Toastdude Hi Fulsy
00:34 Fulsy Hello Toastdude
00:38 Fulsy Just opened up an old toy electronic drumset that I'm using to make a rythm machine out of
00:39 Fulsy And I'm just so happy that most of the stuff is analog
00:40 Fulsy Lotsa IC's, some caps and resistors
00:41 Fulsy none of those cheap chips with the black epoxy over them
00:41 Fulsy this is gonna be fun
00:42 BatSteve The government gives you a free cell phone?
00:42 BatSteve really?
00:44 masterofmonks BatSteve: disturbing isn't it?
00:45 BatSteve yeah
00:46 livefiretj joined #thegeekgroup
00:46 Toastdude BatSteve: !
00:47 BatSteve Toastdude!
00:47 BatSteve Oh hey!
00:47 Toastdude Hi livefiretj
00:47 BatSteve I just thought of something
00:47 Toastdude What?
00:47 BatSteve Did Duck manage to boil 200 gallons of water or whatever?
00:48 wannabe1987 hi bats
00:48 Toastdude I don't know... They never said anything about it
00:50 tlockley boil water?
00:50 Toastdude Yeah, a tub of it
00:50 tlockley why?
00:51 wannabe1987 with mirrors!
00:51 BatSteve yeah, with mirrors
00:51 Toastdude A tv channel or station asked them to
00:51 BatSteve tlockley: same reason they do everything - because it makes good video
00:51 BatSteve (:
00:51 tlockley derp
00:52 Toastdude And "If it's worth doing, its worth over-doing" :P
00:52 Toastdude Why boil a pot of water when you can boil a tub of water
00:52 Toastdude Lol
00:53 Toastdude I've watched too much Mythbusters...
00:54 tlockley hevent we all?
00:54 wannabe1987 i <3 mythbusters...
00:55 BatSteve there is no such thing as too much mythbusters
00:55 BatSteve (:
00:55 Toastdude True...
00:55 masterofmonks And halfway down I met the bloody barrel once again.
00:55 injektion joined #thegeekgroup
00:55 masterofmonks Morning injektion
00:55 injektion Evening :)
00:55 Toastdude If I could have only one channel if I got cable, it would be Discovery :D
00:55 Toastdude Evening injektion
00:56 injektion masterofmonks, the dust collectors are not cyclones (or I don't think) because the intake piping goes to the top
00:56 injektion Here is a crappy picture http://goput.it/mda.jpg
00:56 Toastdude What is it?
00:57 masterofmonks http://troll.me/images/ancient-aliens-guy/ancient-aliens-guy.jpg
00:58 masterofmonks injektion: They look upside down.
00:58 injektion That big one is the one that makes all of the pneumatic noises
00:58 masterofmonks Except the big one.
00:58 BatSteve Thought experiment:  suppose you want to duplicate the effect of a bright stage spotlight, but all you have available is 60W household light bulbs
00:59 BatSteve But you have many, many of them
00:59 injektion Well they must work because all of the collection hoses work very well
00:59 injektion Well mostly ok
00:59 masterofmonks BatSteve: Fresnel lense, and a parabolic reflector.
00:59 BatSteve Is it possible to arrange some system of mirrors to be equivalent to a much brighter lamp?
01:00 tlockley if you can come up with about 555w you are all set with some good mirrors and a few lenses
01:00 masterofmonks Or, you could just go to the hardware store and buy a 500W halogen spotlight.
01:00 masterofmonks For like $30.
01:01 tlockley but thats cheating
01:01 BatSteve Yeah, that's why it's a thought experiment
01:01 masterofmonks Well you will note my first statement on the matter.
01:01 tlockley or if you have an oxy torch you could make a lime light
01:06 masterofmonks Or you could make soem carbide lamps.
01:08 injektion Mmmm current traffic summary to monitor my usage so I don't exceed the cap: http://goput.it/m0n.png
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01:17 [Python] ..
01:17 [Python] .log
01:17 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
01:17 Toastdude Hi [Python]
01:18 BatSteve hi python
01:18 * BatSteve is sad that HP has decided to discontinue the Palm Pre line of smartphones
01:19 Toastdude They have?
01:19 masterofmonks BatSteve: That sucks, I wanted one, but couldn't afford one.
01:20 BatSteve yeah
01:20 BatSteve announced it yesterday I believe
01:22 injektion WebOS: You won't be missed
01:23 BatSteve I'll miss it
01:24 injektion I wouldn't miss windows mobile if that died tomorrow
01:24 BatSteve I wouldn't miss winmobile though
01:26 injektion I'm debating wether to drop iOS in favor of android
01:27 BatSteve If you wouldn't mind writing it out, I'd love to hear your arguments for and against
01:27 BatSteve Because it'll help me as well
01:28 injektion One major con: Having to rebuy mobile apps I already own
01:28 BatSteve Toastdude: http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=BADEFC9C-1A64-67EA-E42F61CD4E83561F
01:29 wannabe1987 .
01:29 wannabe1987 .
01:29 wannabe1987 .
01:29 injektion I really don't like the direction Apple is going on
01:29 injektion in***
01:30 BatSteve ?
01:30 BatSteve how so?
01:30 Toastdude Cars
01:30 Toastdude ?
01:30 injektion OS X Lion is what is wrong with Apple
01:30 injektion Trying to fuse iOS features into a desktop OS
01:31 injektion Like this http://gagagadget.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/pstam_osx_lion_launchpad_1200.jpg
01:32 injektion If Apple had an OS X tablet that used x86 it would make sense
01:32 BatSteve ah gotcha
01:34 injektion They also screwed over FCP users with FCP X
01:36 [Python] hi batsteve
01:36 BatSteve hi python
01:37 tlockley injektion, i dont really think so. It is possible to have FCP and FCP X co-exist
01:37 tlockley they intentionally made sure that you didnt have to pick just one.
01:38 tlockley and while I do agree that FCP X is a huge departure from traditional NLE software, those who oppose it are really just greybeards
01:39 tlockley I know that I personally dont like the interface because it is too much like iMovie, but it does introduce some interesting new use cases that I havent come up with yet
01:48 injektion When woke up this morning and had a glass of milk with a pop tart I smelled calcium chloride :/
01:53 Toastdude What does that smell like?
01:54 injektion It has a little chlorine smell but it's odd
01:55 Toastdude Okay. I have probably smelled it before, I just don't know it off hand
02:02 * Toastdude breaks the silence...
02:03 injektion Enjoy the silence...
02:05 Toastdude Yes, It lets me get homework done :P
02:06 wannabe1987 http://phoodinyoface.blogspot.com/2011/08/grilled-porkchops.html
02:06 Cprossu hey guys
02:06 Cprossu back from chinese food enjoying a dust storm =D
02:07 Toastdude Wb Cprossu
02:07 Cprossu tlockley as soon as I get my headphones working we're gonna kick some ass in TF2 I think
02:09 rick___ joined #thegeekgroup
02:09 tlockley cool. ill go get mine
02:10 Toastdude Hello rick___
02:12 BatSteve hi rick___
02:13 Toastdude Nice, BatSteve... You made him leave =P
02:13 BatSteve yeah yeah
02:13 BatSteve (:
02:13 Toastdude Lol :)
02:14 BatSteve This is why I let the bot do my socializing
02:14 BatSteve right BotSteve?
02:14 BotSteve No way
02:14 Toastdude HA
02:14 BatSteve I wonder what happens if I use right BotSteve in a sentence
02:14 BatSteve hm
02:14 BatSteve right botsteve arbitrary sentence hree
02:14 BotSteve Definitely
02:14 BatSteve ah
02:15 BatSteve that's what it was
02:16 exor674 fire is awesome, right BotSteve?
02:18 BatSteve apparently it has to be at the start of the sentence
02:18 BatSteve why I did that, I'm not sure
02:19 exor674 BatSteve: because ^s are cool?
02:19 exor674 and $s aren't
02:19 exor674 ( assuming you used regexen )
02:20 BatSteve probably
02:22 Toastdude BotSteve: Hi
02:22 Toastdude Darn
02:22 wannabe1987 BotSteve: http://phoodinyoface.blogspot.com/2011/08/grilled-porkchops.html
02:22 Toastdude Hi BotSteve
02:22 BotSteve Word up Toastdude!
02:23 Toastdude Right BotSteve: http://phoodinyoface.blogspot.com/2011/08/grilled-porkchops.html
02:23 BotSteve You're right
02:23 wannabe1987 see?
02:23 wannabe1987 he even likes my cooking o.O
02:23 Toastdude BotSteve: Tell wannabe1987 You're right
02:23 BotSteve Toastdude: I'll pass that on when wannabe1987 is around.
02:23 wannabe1987 BatSteve needs to come over for dinner somet n ight
02:23 BotSteve wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
02:23 BotSteve At 02:23Z, Toastdude asked me to Tell wannabe1987 You're right
02:23 wannabe1987 LOL
02:24 Toastdude :D
02:24 Toastdude And he doesn't even have tastebuds! Your phood must be really good :P
02:24 masterofmonks You know, when I saw "grilled" that isn't exactly what I was thinking.
02:25 wannabe1987 um it was grilled pork chops?!
02:25 wannabe1987 what did you think masterofmonks
02:25 masterofmonks *test*
02:25 masterofmonks FiRE!
02:28 Toastdude ?
02:29 wannabe1987 i dunno
02:29 masterofmonks I come from the "whack it until it stops screaming, rip a hunk off and throw it over a burnign tree" school when it comes to "grilled"
02:31 wannabe1987 ...
02:31 wannabe1987 i use a george foreman
02:33 masterofmonks Yeah... I'm not saying that it doesn't taste good, just that isn't what isn't the first through 22nd thing that comes to mind when I think of the word "grilled"
02:34 tlockley joined #thegeekgroup
02:35 Toastdude Lol
02:36 Cprossu hrmmm tlockley loose inet?
02:36 Cprossu *lose
02:36 tlockley no, mac acting up
02:37 Cprossu boo
02:38 tlockley yah. plus I think i need to spend some time learning TF2 as it is all really different. I am used to playing CS1.6
02:38 Cprossu we could do that too
02:38 Cprossu join a server you like
02:39 tlockley well, imma try TF2 one more time. Ill be on soon
02:39 Cprossu I really really miss cs 1.3 though
02:39 tlockley oh?
02:40 Cprossu pre-steam cs
02:40 tlockley oooh
02:40 Cprossu TMP sniping ;)
02:40 tlockley *gigglesnort*
02:41 Cprossu I'd really annoy the hell outa people in cs_assault_upc with that damn thing
02:41 tlockley i would just use it to be funny. then I would have that one awsome streak of headshots
02:42 tlockley also how do you enable quick select for number and scroll wheel
02:43 Cprossu I think it's in advanced
02:43 Cprossu options advanced
02:43 Cprossu not to be confused with adv. options
02:43 Cprossu *dev's for the loss on that one*
02:43 tlockley ok
02:44 Cprossu also my voice isn't working either way hrmmmph
02:46 tlockley ok
02:46 tlockley do you use vent or ts or anything?
02:46 Cprossu vent
02:46 tlockley does tgg have a vent or anything?
02:46 Cprossu not that I know of
02:47 tlockley hmmmmm
02:47 tlockley ever use Mumble?
02:50 thatstek joined #thegeekgroup
02:51 yNos Cprossu!
02:51 yNos Welcome home!
02:51 wannabe1987 hi thatstek, yNos
02:51 thatstek hello
02:51 yNos and wannabe1987! Hello to you too.
02:51 wannabe1987 :)
02:52 Toastdude Hi yNos !
02:52 Toastdude Hi thatstek
02:52 wannabe1987 hi Toastdude
02:52 thatstek that nextup pisses me off. tgg are helping people. those others are just getting money. we should win. why does tgg have so little subs?
02:52 Toastdude Hi wannabe1987 :)
02:53 thatstek and hi toast
02:53 Toastdude I know... Last time I checked, they only had a few hundred, while the others had 2,000...
02:53 yNos erm..
02:54 thatstek youtube should be a sponsor lol
02:54 yNos i missed out on something?
02:54 yNos nextup?
02:54 yNos ph
02:54 thatstek on youtube
02:54 yNos the vote thing
02:54 thatstek latest vid
02:54 yNos yeah
02:54 thatstek its so imbalanced
02:54 yNos art
02:54 yNos it is so reletive.
02:55 yNos we may be helpign people out, but the artists might be helping someone through a tough time emotionally
02:55 yNos what we do is art, just a different form.
02:56 yNos our medium may be different, but our causes are similar.
02:56 thatstek yeah but you cant go to their house and make art with them ;)
02:57 Toastdude With that hard time being for the parents with their children making explosives in their garage...
02:57 yNos art is just as much the artist as it is the viewer
02:57 SparkyProjects left #thegeekgroup
02:57 yNos like i say... everything is relative.
02:57 thatstek *cough* billy :)
02:58 Toastdude *cough* Me...
02:58 tlockley Cprossu: the lag is too much. Also some friends showed up so I am off games for a bit. Ill be on IRC tho
02:58 Toastdude Lol
02:58 thatstek yeah
02:58 yNos i am not billy, and i burned down the field/blew up an outbuilding back on the farm...
02:58 yNos the field a few times.
02:58 Psi joined #thegeekgroup
02:58 Toastdude Wow... Cool!
02:58 Toastdude Wb Psi
02:59 yNos not that i will tell you how to make anfo model rockets..
02:59 yNos but with the internet, there is a lot you can figure out yourself.
02:59 Toastdude Ooo, how do you make them =P
02:59 Toastdude Jkjk
02:59 thatstek with
02:59 yNos if you figure out the recipe and production, i will tell you how not to blow your self up ;)
02:59 thatstek science!
02:59 Toastdude I don't want to blow up myself and house...
03:00 Toastdude Lol thatstek
03:00 yNos yeah... thats the big deal..
03:00 thatstek you have insureae dont you Toastdude :P
03:00 thatstek insurance*
03:00 yNos do you and your family live in a town, or in the country?
03:00 yNos anfo in the city == bad_idea
03:00 Toastdude yNos: Do you set the rockets off with a Big Red Button of Science? ;)
03:01 Toastdude Town
03:01 thatstek nao thats for thumper
03:01 Toastdude thatstek: I'm 13 :P
03:01 thatstek im 19 :P
03:01 yNos 9volts and a tin-can switch.. not very exciting...
03:01 Toastdude Not THE, a
03:01 yNos 29 here...
03:01 thatstek old man alert
03:01 thatstek :P
03:01 yNos yeah, really
03:01 thatstek lol
03:02 masterofmonks *This* old man took offense to that.
03:02 Toastdude thatstek: I actually did set off Thumper with THE Big Red Button of Science :D
03:02 Toastdude masterofmonks: Old men are cool :)
03:02 thatstek well unless they make it internet  controlled... i might have a problem doing thaat
03:02 yNos am hunting for a canned mixer for my motorcycle... phone/bcFM/HT/other rider...
03:02 thatstek that*
03:02 Toastdude And old women
03:03 yNos anyone know of one?
03:03 Toastdude Where do you live thatstek? Country, that is
03:03 thatstek West coast of canada
03:03 Toastdude Nope, sorry yNos
03:03 Toastdude Aw, too bad... I live in IL
03:03 thatstek kinda far lol
03:04 Toastdude I just went up there on Monday :D
03:04 Toastdude Yeah, just a bit far for a road trip...
03:04 thatstek you went to wast coast of canada?
03:04 yNos thatstek not too far from vc, eh?
03:04 thatstek vc? vancouver?
03:04 Toastdude No, to tgg lab in Grand Rapids
03:04 yNos he came to TGG:LSL
03:05 Toastdude LSL?
03:05 yNos yeah, vancouver.
03:05 thatstek yeah
03:05 yNos Leonard Street Labs
03:05 thatstek im in surrey
03:05 thatstek just south of van
03:05 wannabe1987 canadians!
03:05 Toastdude Ah
03:05 thatstek actually im south african
03:05 thatstek :P
03:05 Toastdude Colin Mochrie!
03:06 thatstek you mean
03:06 thatstek McRae*
03:06 thatstek :P
03:06 wannabe1987 south african canadians!
03:06 thatstek yep
03:06 thatstek lol
03:06 wannabe1987 are you of the dutch variety?
03:06 thatstek im of the english veriety
03:07 wannabe1987 ah
03:07 thatstek but I have friends from here that are from SA and are afrikaans
03:08 wannabe1987 coo
03:08 wannabe1987 l
03:08 thatstek and
03:08 thatstek plenty of
03:08 thatstek asians
03:09 wannabe1987 i have two haitian siblings...
03:09 thatstek interesting
03:09 thatstek and you not hatian?
03:09 wannabe1987 nope
03:10 thatstek i see noone gets voice here. i guess that means this room never goes +m?
03:12 BatSteve thatstek: it goes +m rarely
03:12 thatstek thought so
03:12 BatSteve we are of the opinion that the main channel should remain open most of the time
03:13 BatSteve and we just splinter off into #tgg-whatever rooms when we need a quiet place to talk
03:13 thatstek ok
03:13 BatSteve this will change if (for example) we get 4channed again
03:13 BatSteve but for now, we're pretty happy as is
03:13 thatstek you just lost the game :P
03:14 thatstek i duno if any of you know chris pirillo
03:14 thatstek but i would go on his irc
03:15 thatstek and it would be like +m alot
03:15 thatstek lol
03:15 wannabe1987 ...the game?  fu!
03:15 thatstek lol
03:17 thatstek quiet
03:17 BatSteve .w chris pirillo
03:17 BotSteve "Christopher Joseph Pirillo (born July 26, 1973(1973-07-26)) is the founder and maintainer of Lockergnome, which is a network of blogs, web forums, mailing lists, and online communities." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_pirillo
03:19 thatstek yeah that guy
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03:28 wannabe1987 Toastdude http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLDKnWi2hNA&amp;feature=related
03:28 wannabe1987 hi livefiretj
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03:34 egrsteve wow, it's quiet in here
03:34 yNos just a little
03:34 yNos had a little spurt of activity a little while ago
03:35 wannabe1987 hi
03:35 wannabe1987 its been mainly dead all  day
03:35 Cprossu good stuff
03:36 Cprossu hey yNos you still around?
03:36 Toastdude Darn, he knows Chris Pirillo too...
03:37 egrsteve looks like are the cool people are here so thats all that matters
03:37 Toastdude Hi egrsteve !
03:37 Toastdude Thanks Steve :D
03:37 Cprossu egrsteve how's it going?
03:38 egrsteve good, haven't been to the lab for a couple days and won't be till next week
03:38 egrsteve I bet they will miss me
03:38 Cprossu I bet they do heh
03:39 Cprossu on that note may the next time I wire up master control be at avalon ;D
03:39 Toastdude Too bad I missed you at the lab on Monday egrsteve
03:39 Cprossu it was cool to see you Toastdude
03:40 Toastdude Yeah, It was cool to see you too Cprossu :)
03:40 yNos I was hoping to see you there tonight..
03:40 yNos egrsteve
03:40 Cprossu I hope I was every bit as nuts as you hoped I'd be heh
03:40 yNos do you still have the antenna anylizer>?
03:41 Toastdude I was having a "Holy crap, that's Cprossu!" moment :P
03:41 Toastdude I was having a lot of those moments... Lol
03:41 wannabe1987 lol
03:41 * wannabe1987 is still sad she missed toast
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03:41 Cprossu yeah the lab is overwhelming at times
03:41 Toastdude Hi speedrunner!
03:41 wannabe1987 o.o speedrunnerG55
03:41 yNos Cprossu hell yeah.. lots going on
03:42 * speedrunnerG55 pokes wannabe
03:42 Toastdude I wish I could have stayed there longer, but we had to go, and you had to get back to work...
03:42 speedrunnerG55 Wannabe. I saw your name mentioned in my lab book
03:42 wannabe1987 o.O
03:42 egrsteve yes I still have it
03:42 Cprossu Toastdude yeah you caught me in the middle of a project
03:42 Toastdude Yeah, the cabinet thing, right?
03:42 Cprossu which one I couldn't tell you because I've lost track of all the projects I've managed to start and complete
03:43 yNos just found my "If I were a carpenter" cd from back in the day.. i <3 the sonic youth cover of superstar
03:43 speedrunnerG55 It says. "techs will tell you the motherboard removal is the excersize that seperates the geek from the meek and the true pc tech from the wannabe, but dont let that intimidate you"
03:44 yNos Cprossu- you did a lot while you were there.
03:44 wannabe1987 lol
03:44 yNos speedrunnerG55 ? where is that from?
03:44 speedrunnerG55 My lab book
03:44 yNos a place with a bunch of wannabes?
03:44 Toastdude Cprossu: And I met the alzheimer's cloud...
03:44 yNos erp
03:44 Cprossu heh
03:44 Cprossu yeah
03:44 yNos wannabe, nothing against you..
03:45 wannabe1987 none taken
03:45 speedrunnerG55 True
03:45 Toastdude Chris was like "Okay, now we need to get out."
03:45 speedrunnerG55 No offence. Just made me laught and want to mention it here
03:45 Toastdude With good reason...
03:45 Toastdude Not @ speed...
03:46 yNos http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/tfr/2527621459.html - this posting is so full of win.
03:46 wannabe1987 alz cloud?
03:46 Toastdude wannabe1987: Aluminium dust
03:47 wannabe1987 ok?
03:48 wannabe1987 i don't understand ...
03:48 yNos thumper sublimates.. turns it into a gas..
03:48 yNos well aluminum oxide.
03:48 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i make muffins
03:48 BotSteve Absolutely
03:48 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i make bread
03:48 BotSteve Ask again later!
03:49 wannabe1987 ...
03:49 wannabe1987 so i guess i'm supposed to make banana muffins
03:49 Toastdude And Aluminum oxide causes alzheimer's
03:49 yNos well, it has been linked..
03:49 wannabe1987 ahhh
03:49 yNos but the rates of rape and icecream sales have been linked too
03:49 wannabe1987 well then.  stay away, i don't need more people to take care of
03:49 wannabe1987 o.O
03:49 Toastdude Lol
03:49 wannabe1987 i bought lots of ice cream oh noes
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03:50 yNos both happen when the temps get warmer
03:50 wannabe1987 lol
03:50 yNos or.. are more likely to happen
03:52 wannabe1987 nice link btw
03:52 yNos thanks
03:52 yNos it made me lol
03:53 Toastdude "have a perverted sense of humor," Lol
03:53 wannabe1987 yep
03:53 wannabe1987 i'm gonna nominate it for best of craigslist
03:53 yNos toast: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confounding#Example
03:54 yNos this example is ice cream sales and drownings
03:59 kafka speedrunnerG55: but, removing a motherboard is the easiest thing...
04:00 yNos MIDNIGHT!ish
04:00 NeWtoz After I move this weekend, I'll only be 1.6 miles from the Lab
04:00 yNos nice
04:01 yNos where are you moving from?
04:01 NeWtoz Hudsonville
04:01 yNos hmm
04:01 yNos i work with a bunch of hudonvillians..
04:02 yNos will you fit in on the westside?
04:02 NeWtoz I've lost some weight
04:03 * speedrunnerG55 finished lab 8 and started lab 9 a little
04:03 * speedrunnerG55 takes break till tomorrow
04:03 NeWtoz and I don't know... not sure what the difference will be
04:03 speedrunnerG55 Hows everyone doing?
04:04 NeWtoz technically I'll be on the east side of 131 now
04:04 NeWtoz near plainfield and leonard
04:04 speedrunnerG55 What is that kafka ?
04:05 yNos have you been to tgg much?
04:05 yNos ahh
04:05 NeWtoz I've been there a few times, but not lately
04:05 speedrunnerG55 Why do you say that, you have to revlmove everything els first
04:05 yNos was just wondering if i have met you yet..
04:05 NeWtoz probably not
04:06 speedrunnerG55 Is there a way to change my grub order, its anoying it autmaticallg starts to a os i dont use
04:06 NeWtoz Are you going to be setting up the ham station at TGG?
04:06 yNos I hope to be
04:06 Cprossu lol speedrunnerG55
04:06 NeWtoz I'd be interested in that
04:06 yNos i have my old yaesu there..
04:07 NeWtoz ah yes, I remember that
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04:07 yNos we need to make a vert..
04:07 Cprossu yNos all you need is an altoids tin and some wrigglys bubblegum wrappers
04:07 Cprossu I have faith in you lol
04:07 Toastdude Bye
04:07 Cprossu make a kickass shack :)
04:07 NeWtoz I haven't done much with with my license yet, but I'm willing to help
04:07 yNos I hope to
04:08 yNos did you get your general?
04:08 yNos or just tech?
04:08 NeWtoz general
04:08 yNos nice
04:08 NeWtoz took them back-to-back
04:08 yNos poifect.
04:08 NeWtoz I tried the extra without studying for it right after those.. I didn't do so well ;)
04:08 yNos when are you moving up here?
04:09 NeWtoz this weekend
04:09 yNos i need to get off my ass and go take the extra test.
04:09 NeWtoz I need to study for it, but I also figured I should do something with my general first
04:09 yNos but other than bragging rights.. the extra 20ish kz on a few bands isnt worth it..
04:10 yNos moving into an apt, or renting a house?
04:10 NeWtoz apt
04:10 yNos first floor?
04:10 NeWtoz second/top
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04:10 Cprossu hey producerbill what's been up at the lab today if anything?
04:11 yNos NeWtoz: do you have roof access?
04:11 producerbill I don't know haven't been up there today.
04:11 BotSteve producerbill: I have the following messages for you:
04:11 BotSteve At 17 Aug 18:07Z, yNos asked me to tell producerbill go look at the chatlogs for the last 10 mins or so and letme know what you need...
04:11 NeWtoz I think I'll move my mobile rig out of my car into my apt, and I would use it more
04:11 NeWtoz no, and I doubt they'd let me put an antenna or anything up there
04:12 yNos any trees around?
04:12 yNos or attic access?
04:12 speedrunnerG55 I had a dream that i set a software configuration and removed the margin in between my dual mo itors...i woke up and was like wtf
04:12 speedrunnerG55 Monitors
04:12 Cprossu I see squeak was at the lab the day I left
04:12 NeWtoz not sure about attic, I've only seen it a few times, haven't explored all the fun stuff yet
04:12 NeWtoz but I'll try and get some sort of antenna going
04:12 NeWtoz even if its just a wire out of the window
04:13 producerbill yNos,  I don't know how to access the message you left me.
04:13 Cprossu .log
04:13 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
04:13 Cprossu ^-
04:14 yNos NeWtoz: a loop in the attic works pretty well.
04:15 yNos will you have a deck/balcony/whatever?
04:15 NeWtoz I get the keys later today (friday) so I'll figure it out then
04:15 NeWtoz nope, no deck or balcony
04:16 NeWtoz I'll have to be creative, but I'll figure something out this weekend
04:16 NeWtoz I'll ask the owner when I pick up the keys
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04:17 yNos http://www.arrl.org/files/file/protected/Group/Members/Technology/tis/info/pdf/7209026.pdf
04:18 yNos want to do one of these for tgg:leonard.
04:19 NeWtoz oh, that reminds me, I need to change my address for my license
04:19 yNos if you dont have a ccess i will drop it on a website..
04:19 NeWtoz I don't
04:19 NeWtoz but I should sign up for it
04:20 producerbill yNos,  I need two tcpip ports in the fire wall pointed to the weather camera controller computer. Also I think the WCCC should have a static IP programmed into the DHCP.
04:21 * speedrunnerG55 agrees
04:22 producerbill yNos, if you could make that happen that would be great.
04:23 yNos we would set it up in dhcp
04:23 yNos Chris just gave me the name of the contact @ Comcast for getting things shuffled.
04:23 yNos so we will be doing that soon
04:23 yNos port fwding on the SMC router makes things flakey...
04:24 thatstek cant you take one of your old computer and amke a DHCP?
04:24 producerbill yNos,  ok do we have options?
04:25 yNos Newtoz:http://www.arrl.org/files/file/protected/Group/Members/Technology/tis/info/pdf/7209026.pdf
04:25 yNos thatstek: we have a mchine setup to do firewall/dhcp right now, but the router that we have now is also the cablemodem.
04:26 thatstek oh
04:26 producerbill night Allen's
04:26 thatstek those are always fun
04:26 producerbill night all sleep is calling.
04:26 tlockley gnight
04:26 yNos so once we get the cable modem switched over we will be able to use the router that is more than just a packet dropper(under load).
04:26 thatstek wats the number?
04:26 thatstek :P
04:26 yNos g'night
04:27 thatstek bye
04:27 yNos Newtoz: sorry i just re-dropped the link.. am so used to x11 where select puts things in your copy/paste buffer.
04:27 yNos http://ynos.us/4bandsOn1pole.pdf
04:28 yNos yes, my upload out here in BFE sucks..
04:28 yNos so it will take a moment. to load.
04:28 NeWtoz good enough for a pdf
04:28 yNos i need to afk a few..
04:28 yNos bbiab
04:28 thatstek also how do you guys survive on 250gb? or do you have business?
04:29 NeWtoz I'm pretty sure they'd have to have business
04:29 thatstek yeah
04:32 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 3 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: SitkaGrown on Trash Bag Hot Air Balloon.....NeWtoz on Sprachen des Geek Gruppe (Languages of the Geek Group).....Bill Jones on Trash Bag Hot Air Balloon
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04:33 yNos back
04:34 yNos thatstek what do you mean on 250gb?
04:34 thatstek comcast
04:34 NeWtoz comcast has a 250gb monthly cap
04:34 thatstek but then i realized
04:34 thatstek probably on business
04:35 yNos yup, business..
04:35 yNos but the upload sucks.. it is still shared with the neighborhood.
04:36 thatstek dont you haz verizon?
04:36 thatstek in the area
04:36 yNos nope
04:36 BatSteve speedrunnerG55: have you figured out grub yet?
04:36 yNos AT&T owns most fibre in the area
04:36 speedrunnerG55 No
04:36 thatstek let me guess
04:36 speedrunnerG55 :/
04:37 thatstek its one of those monopolized areas
04:37 speedrunnerG55 Im having issues with the software center
04:37 yNos there is no fibre in the area, so we would need to pay for build out
04:37 yNos yeah, most of the US is monopolized
04:37 yNos you can get verizon service, they just resell AT&T
04:37 * speedrunnerG55 shakes his fist
04:38 yNos just like a CLEC does..
04:38 speedrunnerG55 Why is ubuntu so unstableeeee
04:38 BatSteve speedrunnerG55: edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
04:38 BatSteve change the "default" number to whatever OS you want
04:38 yNos speed, sorry if i seemed terse the other day with your boot issues..
04:38 BatSteve the first one is zero
04:38 thatstek can anyone tell me whay Ubuntu means?
04:38 yNos community
04:38 thatstek woot
04:39 thatstek but how do you say it?
04:39 yNos oo boon too
04:39 NeWtoz I pronounce it Debian
04:39 yNos yup
04:39 thatstek lol NeWtoz
04:39 yNos do you need a clicky interface?
04:39 yNos or are you ok with CLI?
04:39 speedrunnerG55 No write permision
04:39 speedrunnerG55 Sudo?
04:39 thatstek root
04:40 thatstek is your best frined
04:40 thatstek friend*
04:40 NeWtoz at times
04:40 NeWtoz can be your worst
04:40 thatstek well as long as you dont rm -rf /
04:40 yNos there is more you can eff up with root than any other account
04:40 speedrunnerG55 BatSteve: Is that a command?
04:40 NeWtoz I accidentally chmod'ed /
04:40 yNos like doing chmod/chown -Rs
04:41 NeWtoz yup ;)
04:41 BatSteve no, it should be a file
04:41 BatSteve you should be able to edit it
04:41 yNos i am a bsd snob... linux just seems like such a hodgepodge.
04:41 yNos its cool to be bleeding edge, dont get me wrong.
04:41 thatstek oh god
04:41 thatstek thats like mac vs windows
04:42 yNos nah
04:42 yNos its like amiga vs dos :P
04:42 speedrunnerG55 BatSteve: It says in bit letters on the top do not edit this file
04:42 speedrunnerG55 Im scared
04:42 speedrunnerG55 Big
04:42 BatSteve oh
04:42 BatSteve well then
04:42 BatSteve I don't know what to tell you
04:42 yNos it likely sources from somewhere else.
04:42 NeWtoz EDIT IT!
04:42 thatstek yNos, its all Unix
04:42 yNos well...
04:42 speedrunnerG55 Idk how
04:43 speedrunnerG55 Theres all these scripts
04:43 speedrunnerG55 Its not how he described it
04:43 yNos what version of ubuntu?
04:43 NeWtoz speedrunnerG55, google, and if you ever screw up, worst case scenario, you have to reinstall
04:43 NeWtoz that is how linux is learned
04:44 speedrunnerG55 >_>
04:44 NeWtoz it took me 3 tries over a few years to finally stick with it
04:44 NeWtoz but I did try and start with gentoo
04:45 thatstek NeWtoz, were you trying to stab your eyes out?
04:45 thatstek :P
04:45 NeWtoz I didn't even get it partially installed before I got too frustrated with it
04:46 thatstek lol
04:47 NeWtoz then I tried Fedora Core, and messed with that for a while before abandoning it, then when a friend got me to try debian, my world changed
04:47 yNos Newtoz - did you install it side by side with windows, or did you dedicate a machine for the first time?
04:48 NeWtoz side by side, but that was never the problem, just getting through the install process was the hardest
04:48 BatSteve bedtime
04:48 BatSteve night all
04:48 NeWtoz night
04:48 thatstek bye steve
04:48 NeWtoz I figured out how to fix grub or the windows mbr pretty early on
04:50 wannabe1987 night bats, going to bed myself
04:50 yNos boot loaders can be a pita
04:51 * wannabe1987 sleeps; night all
04:51 yNos g'night wannabe
04:51 thatstek bye
04:51 wannabe1987 bye english-southafrican-canadian :P
04:52 thatstek bye wannabe1987
04:54 NeWtoz sounds like it would be a fun antenna to build
04:54 egrsteve http://xkcd.com/340/
04:54 yNos which one?
04:54 NeWtoz the one you linked me to
04:55 yNos yeah
04:55 yNos and with all the steel in the near field, i think horizontal antennae are out of the question..
04:56 yNos unless they were for 15 meters + and 15 feet+ off the roof..
04:56 yNos not bloody likely
04:56 egrsteve over HVL is a concrete roof :)
04:56 egrsteve with rebar and lightning
04:57 egrsteve ok, time for sleep, night all
04:58 yNos G'night steve.
04:58 NeWtoz I'm sensing a trend
05:02 Cprossu heh
05:02 yNos yeah
05:02 Cprossu everyone's going away lol
05:02 yNos i am trying to stay awake so i can shift my sleep sched out a bit.
05:03 yNos i have the "Midnight Run" tomorrow
05:03 yNos from 10mile meijer to the bridge.
05:03 Cprossu my feet are damn happy to not be constantly walking up and down stairs
05:03 yNos we leave at 11:59 fri night
05:03 yNos i can imagine.
05:03 Cprossu way cool though
05:04 Cprossu so glad to be home with my 22" CRT's
05:05 yNos so would you do it again?
05:05 Cprossu hells yes
05:05 yNos only.. plan on the sleeping situ better?
05:05 Cprossu shhhhhhhhhh
05:05 Cprossu lol
05:06 yNos so do you have a 12v supply there yet?
05:06 Cprossu hopefully gh5 will be open for business by the time that happens
05:06 Cprossu I have several and the radio on my desk
05:06 Cprossu and a whip antenna
05:06 Cprossu no mic though yet
05:07 yNos how big is your backyard?
05:07 Cprossu but yeah sleeping at 'whoever will have me this day' wasn't a good plan
05:07 Cprossu but it worked
05:07 Cprossu it's not that big
05:07 Cprossu but I do have a corner house
05:07 yNos can you put up a 10 meter dipole?
05:07 Cprossu in fact I'll just show you
05:08 Cprossu http://maps.google.com/maps/place?ftid=0x872b6d1399ba7a95:0xb1aac97a6eeb66e8&amp;q=8161+n+1st+ave+phoenix,+az&amp;hl=en&amp;ved=0CA4Q-gswAA&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=wO9NTrX9EIKtiQKbqqDbBQ
05:09 Cprossu click it then sat then it's the corner house on sat with the white van
05:09 yNos goo.gl link compresser...
05:09 Cprossu and the basketball hoop
05:09 yNos ohman..
05:10 Cprossu all yards in that pic are dirt
05:11 Cprossu trying to think of when that was taken
05:11 Cprossu we have some grass growing now
05:11 yNos how long does it last?
05:11 Cprossu if it's crab grass we don't have to screw with it
05:11 Cprossu which is generally what we have now
05:11 Cprossu thankfully
05:11 yNos i heard a 10 meter repeater out of tx on my ride home today..
05:12 Cprossu wow
05:12 yNos i was thinking... damn, if i had a real radio instead of this little HT, we could have played radio!
05:12 Cprossu so how many feet of wire am I looking at for the dipole?
05:13 yNos 8 or 16
05:13 Cprossu yeah I have enough room in our backyard then
05:13 Cprossu anything I have to do for lightning?
05:13 Cprossu or just pray it doesn't hit anything?
05:13 yNos not really
05:13 yNos keep things floating or ground everything.
05:14 Cprossu btw does this sucker have a chipswitch in it?
05:14 yNos your soil there isnt that great of a ground..
05:14 yNos yeah
05:14 Cprossu nice.
05:14 Cprossu because I noticed they were like sold out
05:14 yNos you can tx from 26-29 iirc
05:14 Cprossu and there's a literal shit ton of mods
05:14 yNos yup ;)
05:14 Cprossu 12 meter should be open right?
05:14 yNos probobly not right now.
05:15 Cprossu fair enough
05:15 yNos this time of year is a lot of E layer
05:15 Cprossu still neat rig.
05:15 Cprossu ahhh ic
05:15 tonsofpcs yawn
05:15 Cprossu (@ tonsofpcs we're talking about a heavily modified uniden HR2510)
05:15 yNos http://www.hamuniverse.com/10metertechniciandipole.html
05:16 yNos have you opened it to look inside?
05:16 Cprossu not just yet
05:16 Cprossu did some research on it first
05:17 Cprossu *totally grabbing a screwdriver*
05:17 yNos do you have an swr meter?
05:17 yNos cheapies are fine
05:19 Cprossu not just yet
05:19 Cprossu http://hamradio.com/
05:19 Cprossu ^ let me know if anything there will work out
05:19 Cprossu they have a local store
05:19 yNos a truckstop swr meter will do for most hf bands.
05:19 yNos HRO is local
05:19 yNos ?
05:20 Cprossu for me
05:20 yNos am soo jelly right now.
05:20 Cprossu it's spensive though
05:20 yNos hell yes it is..
05:21 yNos how large is your lot?
05:21 thatstek over 9000
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05:21 BotSteve Seroster's here.  Hide yo' kids.  Hide yo' wife.
05:21 Cprossu I wish @ thatstek
05:21 Cprossu I have no clue @ yNos
05:22 * Seroster beats BotSteve half to death with a stick
05:22 thatstek mm
05:22 thatstek :P
05:22 yNos well.. how large is your "back yard"?
05:22 yNos and.. do you have a flag pole?
05:22 Cprossu well it has a narrow part that extends the whole lot
05:23 yNos just wondering what you have to put a wire up with..
05:23 yNos or.. if your lot is big enough.. you could do 1 antenna for all of HF..
05:23 Cprossu and the van is roughly 18 feet
05:24 Seroster '-'
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05:24 Cprossu so there's your scale yNos 1 van ~= 18 feet
05:27 speed_linux HI
05:27 thatstek caps much?
05:27 yNos how high is the tree on the sw corner of the house?
05:28 NeWtoz time for me to head to bed
05:28 yNos THE CAPS LOCK IS NOT ON,  I JUST LIKE THE SHIFT BUTTON!!!
05:28 thatstek bye ne
05:28 thatstek NeWtoz*
05:28 Cprossu it looks bigger in that photo but it's the neighbors tree and an olive tree we have
05:28 NeWtoz gotta get some sleep so I can stay up and watch the Lions game tomorrow night
05:28 Cprossu the olive tree is ~20ft high
05:28 yNos late NewToz
05:29 yNos and the one in the backyard?
05:29 Cprossu nw corner is yard waste
05:29 Cprossu *ne corner
05:29 speed_linux CAPS LOCKKKKK
05:30 yNos is the long run you were talking about the north/south run straight out from what looks like a xwalk?
05:30 Cprossu YOU CAN TELL WHEN SOMEONE IS USING THE SHIFT BUTTON BECAUSE NUMBERS WILL COME OUT FUNNY!@#$
05:31 Seroster Cprossu, Caps off, arrr!
05:31 Cprossu long run is behind house, east of the van (obviously) and in line with the speed hump
05:31 yNos Ok
05:31 Cprossu it goes from that side all the way to the other side of the property where the cinder block wall is
05:32 yNos wasnt sure what that marks in the road were
05:32 Cprossu my 'room' is to the left and is attached to the carport to the left of the top of the 'alley like thing'
05:33 Cprossu so from where the flat roof stops and to the high point on the roof shingled roof
05:34 Cprossu should be around 22ft or so
05:34 Cprossu + 6in for the walls total
05:34 Cprossu so like ~ 23ft
05:35 Cprossu now I 'could' put an antenna in my 'side yard' as well
05:35 yNos hmm
05:35 yNos these have come down a bit..
05:35 yNos http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-003356
05:36 speed_linux idk why i did this, but i made my linux pc look like a mac
05:36 yNos just for the fun of it ;)
05:36 speed_linux :D
05:37 yNos wait..
05:37 * speed_linux waits
05:37 Cprossu the correct answer is because he could =P
05:37 yNos maybe i was thinking of the 6 bander...
05:37 yNos http://www.dxengineering.com/Parts.asp?ID=3433&amp;PLID=141&amp;SecID=63&amp;DeptID=22&amp;PartNo=HUS-4BTV
05:37 yNos price wise..
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05:38 speed_linux hi Katemonster
05:38 speed_linux bye Katemonster
05:38 speed_linux i have to go, bye everyone
05:38 Katemonster speed you ass
05:38 * speed_linux hugs Katemonster
05:39 Cprossu just got this back together
05:39 Cprossu nice and well built on the inside
05:39 Cprossu and that explains the molex on the back too
05:40 Cprossu (the one the speaker runs through
05:40 yNos i havent had it apart for 10+ years...
05:40 Katemonster i made a U-2.  http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/8840/screenshot139b.png  (or something like it)
05:40 yNos kate: nice
05:40 Katemonster :D
05:41 Katemonster thanks.
05:41 Cprossu what game is that?
05:41 Katemonster .g Kerbal Space Program
05:41 BotSteve Katemonster: http://kerbalspaceprogram.com/
05:41 Katemonster with 3rd party mods/addons
05:42 Seroster Arr
05:42 thatstek grr
05:42 Seroster MRRRGH
05:42 thatstek ERHH
05:43 Seroster FRGHN!
05:43 * Katemonster Showermonster
05:43 Katemonster dammit
05:43 Cprossu well I got some anime to watch I think
05:43 Seroster I feel so.... Close to you... Wanna make love?
05:43 thatstek what?
05:43 yNos huh?
05:43 yNos plz say wrong window
05:43 yNos pls
05:43 yNos pls
05:43 Seroster Nope =P
05:43 Seroster That was to thatstek
05:43 thatstek lol yNos
05:43 thatstek well
05:44 * Cprossu wonders when Seroster got the @dmin
05:44 Seroster ^^
05:44 thatstek are you of the female?
05:44 Seroster thatstek, I don't have a beard
05:44 thatstek thats called shaving
05:44 thatstek :P
05:44 * Cprossu logs into the forums for the first time in a while
05:44 Seroster True that ^^
05:45 Seroster Don't worry, Cprossu. Nothing ever happens there
05:45 Cprossu not true lol
05:45 yNos Cprossu: damn HRO is stupidly high priced...
05:46 Seroster yNos, But HHO stupidity is a dozen to the dine =D
05:46 yNos fersure
05:46 yNos i work with a free energy nut
05:47 yNos with enough fluid magnetic bearings and massive flywheels we could be free of oil yesterday!
05:47 Seroster I'd rather work with a chipmonk
05:47 yNos there is a reason he is an "AD Admin"
05:47 Seroster Told him that magnetic bearings need more energy the more weight they hold?
05:47 yNos and not anything else.
05:47 yNos yup
05:48 Seroster I have ben arguing for weeks with a few HHO nuts
05:48 yNos he powered his car off from dihydro-oxygen too!
05:48 Seroster Ah
05:48 Seroster Has he done a cross country trip without using gas too?
05:49 yNos "it is just in the testing phase" right now.
05:49 yNos so  no
05:50 Seroster The nobel price in physics is 1.5 million dollars. Prepetual motion would no doubt get it.
05:50 Seroster If he thinks he can pull it off, more power to him, but he's still an idiot.
05:50 yNos agreed
05:50 yNos he buys all this stoopid crap off ebay
05:50 Seroster lol
05:51 yNos reminds me of the time travel device on napoleon dynomite
05:51 Seroster I bet the reason it doesnt work is that the goverment intervienes and destroy his equipment during shipping!
05:54 Seroster Anyhow, I'm off to school
05:54 Seroster Cya
05:55 thatstek school?
05:55 yNos have fun down there.
06:32 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Cprossu on Remote webcam access
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09:11 Hackbat98 Oh lord windoes 98 is painful
09:11 Hackbat98 *windows
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09:19 LemPhone evening all
09:19 Hackbat98 evening
09:19 Hackbat98 well
09:19 Hackbat98 morning for me
09:19 LemPhone howsit?
09:19 LemPhone heh
09:19 LemPhone just had beers at the pub next to work with people from worl
09:19 LemPhone was good
09:20 Hackbat98 spent the last 2 hours finding an irc program that would run on this PC
09:20 LemPhone lol
09:20 LemPhone specs?
09:20 Hackbat98 500mhz pentium 2 256mb of ram across 3 sticks
09:21 LemPhone lo
09:21 LemPhone lol
09:21 LemPhone mirc should happily run on that
09:21 Hackbat98 802.11 G Wifi
09:21 Hackbat98 correction
09:21 Hackbat98 spent the last 2 hours finding a FREE irc program that would run on this PC
09:22 LemPhone lol
09:22 LemPhone x-chat
09:22 Hackbat98 dude
09:23 Hackbat98 this is windows 98SE
09:23 LemPhone x-chat silver
09:23 Hackbat98 It didn't work
09:23 Hackbat98 WHOLE bunch of driver problems
09:23 LemPhone lol
09:23 LemPhone irssi
09:23 LemPhone :-P
09:23 LemPhone and cygwin to make it run
09:24 Hackbat98 I have ENOUGH problems running
09:24 LemPhone heh
09:24 Hackbat98 Cygwin would make stuff even MORE fun
09:24 LemPhone sifn't justcmd
09:24 LemPhone gah
09:24 Hackbat98 may I mention this has a 10 gb hdd
09:24 LemPhone cmd line install of debian and irssi :-_
09:25 Hackbat98 I'm happy with ICEchat for now
09:25 LemPhone heh
09:25 Hackbat98 gonna try to run the arduino software in a while
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12:29 Fulsy Yay got the Blink program to work on my arduino!
12:44 Seroster Arr
12:57 MadManMarkAu1 Hehe
12:57 MadManMarkAu1 Well done, Fulsy
12:57 Fulsy lol
12:59 MadManMarkAu1 so, how much Arduino stuff you done so far?
12:59 Fulsy very little, lol
12:59 Fulsy just got it working now
13:03 MadManMarkAu1 Haha, cool
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13:07 tlockley morning erebody
13:32 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:
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13:41 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 19:26Z
13:50 Seroster Holy crap
13:50 Seroster I think I just found a movie that scores a 9.5 on my richter scale of fucked up films!
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14:30 tlockley Seroster: oh
14:33 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 3 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: maglinvinn on Electric Sportscar Conversion.....maglinvinn on Automotive HHO Generator.....maglinvinn on Geek Space Program
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15:33 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 4 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Tarsman013 on Electric Sportscar Conversion.....AdderD on Electric Sportscar Conversiongjposner on Electric Sportscar Conversion.....AdderD on Electric Sportscar Conversion
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16:02 Cprossu morning to you tlockley
16:05 tlockley shit is already after noon
16:05 Cprossu rofl
16:05 Cprossu that's what 3-4 hours difference does
16:06 tlockley yep
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16:21 Seroster HOLY FUCK!
16:21 Seroster Lon Suder is in Alien Resurrection!
16:25 Seroster And holy crap http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/17/Grima_and_Th%C3%A9oden.jpg that is suder too!
16:33 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: maglinvinn on Project Vinn.....maglinvinn on Electric Sportscar Conversion
16:34 Seroster Dang, I r downloading some lotr
16:36 SparkyProjects http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14586304
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16:39 mashpriborintorg hi all
16:40 SparkyProjects Hi
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17:02 douglas hey Cprossu
17:04 * douglas pokes Cprossu
17:04 * douglas pokes wannabe1987
17:05 Cprossu hey douglas
17:05 wannabe1987 hi speed
17:05 Cprossu what's up?
17:05 douglas cprossu, i had a question about virtual pc,
17:06 Cprossu well of that I can say before your question, 1.) it sucks don't use it, download virtual box
17:06 Cprossu but what is the question anyway?
17:06 douglas how can i create a shared folder between my real pc and my virtual pc, so i can share a wireless driver
17:06 Cprossu wireless card usb?
17:06 douglas usb
17:07 Cprossu does virtual pc have a usb passthrough?
17:07 Cprossu is it a realtek 8187b based device?
17:07 douglas trendnet
17:07 Cprossu chipset could be realtek or broadcom
17:07 Cprossu do you have a model # on you?
17:08 douglas no >_>
17:08 douglas the label came off the thing in the rain @_@
17:08 Cprossu what OS is running on the virtual pc and the real pc?
17:08 douglas the virtual pc is running on windows 7,
17:09 douglas i have xp and server 2003 in it
17:09 Cprossu ok, here's what you do, there should already be a virtual network driver installed in one or both of your virtual images
17:10 Sasha_ oh hai
17:11 Cprossu so create a shared folder on the virtual image, take note of it's ip, make sure said shared folder is checked "share this folder on the network" and "allow network users to change my files", you might have to 'just enable file sharing' first and not use 'simple file sharing'
17:11 Cprossu then go to the windows 7 box and go to My Computer and in the address bar type '
17:11 Cprossu '\\192.168.x.x' without the 's
17:12 Cprossu 192.168.x.x being the ip addr of the virtual network card
17:12 Cprossu then you can just drag & drop
17:12 Cprossu I hope that was clear as mud ;)
17:12 Cprossu I have to go take my car out and make sure it still works, getting some grub in the process
17:13 douglas ok, im going to have to reboot, i saved all that in a text file brb
17:13 Cprossu (and I am not referring to the linux boot manager either)
17:13 Cprossu later douglas, and good luck!
17:30 injektion I'm going to super h mart later
17:33 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Radioactive on List of inventors killed by their own invention.
17:46 MadManMarkAu1 I love my grandma...
17:46 MadManMarkAu1 (that was sarcastic)
17:47 MadManMarkAu1 She got me a shirt 3 sizes too small and a horrible shade of shit-brown mixed with drab olive green >_<
17:50 tlockley could be worse. it would be a girls cut
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17:50 tlockley that is assuming you are a guy
17:51 MadManMarkAu1 Considering my name, I'd say it's a safe bet
17:51 MadManMarkAu1 However, you're making an assumption that I wear guys clothes
17:51 MadManMarkAu1 ...just to be confusing xD
17:51 tlockley :P
17:58 MadManMarkAu1 Yay, Arduino network library is stable now.
17:58 MadManMarkAu1 Everything works from PHY to IP
17:58 tlockley oh arduino, is there anthing you cant do with them?
17:58 MadManMarkAu1 Need to implement ARP resolution, though
17:59 MadManMarkAu1 tlockley: A lot, but that's why I dropped the Arduino dev environment and Arduino library about 2 weeks after getting it :P
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17:59 MadManMarkAu1 I'm finally free of that crud
18:00 tlockley do you are writing directly for the chip on it?
18:00 MadManMarkAu1 Still writing in C, but using an avr-libC ibrary I compiled from source (Arduino LibC version is bugged)
18:01 tlockley i see
18:01 tlockley i am just waiting for the Arduino FPGA edition
18:02 tlockley that will be silly
18:02 MadManMarkAu1 lol
18:02 MadManMarkAu1 I need to learn FPGA
18:02 MadManMarkAu1 But I don't have a dev board, or even an emulator
18:02 tlockley FPGAs just kinda boggle my mind
18:02 MadManMarkAu1 That's why you use Zilog
18:02 tlockley Zilog?
18:03 MadManMarkAu1 It's like writing a computer program that gets implemented in hardware
18:03 tlockley is it its own language?
18:03 MadManMarkAu1 You use defines and some code to specify what the chip does and it's various inputs/outputs
18:03 MadManMarkAu1 It'll create the hardware map file for you
18:03 tlockley interesting
18:04 MadManMarkAu1 That's how I understand it. It's also why I want to learn it. I want to get back into software defined radio
18:04 MadManMarkAu1 I want to build a cheap yet quality radio reciever
18:04 tlockley i see
18:04 MadManMarkAu1 Under open-hardware
18:05 tlockley you might want to take a look at the USRP then
18:05 MadManMarkAu1 I had one
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18:05 MadManMarkAu1 Used it, it was great
18:05 MadManMarkAu1 I couldn't get done what I had to get done
18:05 MadManMarkAu1 So the person who loaned it to me asked for it back
18:05 speedrunnerG55 Hi
18:06 tlockley what were you trying to do?
18:06 MadManMarkAu1 'lo speed
18:06 * speedrunnerG55 pokes wannabe
18:06 MadManMarkAu1 tlockley: I can't discuss that, I'm afraid
18:06 tlockley NDA?
18:06 MadManMarkAu1 We'll say NDA. It'll save too many questions.
18:06 tlockley ok
18:07 maglinvinn_work lol
18:08 tlockley what would you build radio wise if you were using a FPGA?
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18:09 MadManMarkAu1 I want a USRP-like system, but with the FIR/IIR/Dec stuff all implemented in hardware, yet still programmable. I want to offload as much CPU crunching to hardware as I can get away with.
18:09 MadManMarkAu1 I want to be able to sample 50MHz bandwidth and select a number of distinct signals from that sample width
18:10 MadManMarkAu1 So I can explore the <50MHz radio band, where all the amature fun is :P
18:10 tlockley USRP is above amateur band?
18:10 tlockley P.S. radio is not something that I am too well versed in
18:10 MadManMarkAu1 With the TV tuner downconverter module I had, yeah
18:11 MadManMarkAu1 You can get sub-50MHz reciever daughterboards for it
18:11 MadManMarkAu1 But the signals I was asked to look at were above 50MHz
18:11 MadManMarkAu1 In the VHF/UHF bands
18:11 tlockley huh
18:12 MadManMarkAu1 so I had the 50-860MHz tuner, which is a glorified TV tuner
18:12 tlockley lolz
18:12 MadManMarkAu1 Same kind they use in cable modems, satelite TV and free-to-air TV
18:13 tlockley do in theory you could watch TV with a USRP assuming you program it right
18:13 tlockley *so
18:13 MadManMarkAu1 Yeah
18:13 MadManMarkAu1 I looked into it when I had time to play with it
18:13 MadManMarkAu1 I got the audio fine (it's NFM after all)
18:14 * wannabe1987 is semi-afk...
18:14 wannabe1987 sorry speedrunnerG55
18:14 MadManMarkAu1 But the video, I didn't have enough CPU power to process the signal at a usable bandwidth
18:14 tlockley on the USRP or the computer?
18:14 MadManMarkAu1 The computer
18:14 speedrunnerG55 Ok
18:14 speedrunnerG55 Its ok^
18:14 MadManMarkAu1 The USRP merely tunes the signal, samples it, decimates it and pipes it off to the computer
18:15 MadManMarkAu1 The computer does all the DSP to tune in and detect signals
18:15 MadManMarkAu1 (detect, being a radio term, as in "detector", or demodulator)
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18:15 tlockley so the USRP is for all intents and purposes a tuner system
18:16 MadManMarkAu1 Basically, a tuner that can give you up to 50Msps
18:16 MadManMarkAu1 Also, a transmitter
18:16 tlockley Msps?
18:16 MadManMarkAu1 If you have the daughtercards for it
18:16 MadManMarkAu1 Msps = Mega-samples-per-second
18:16 tlockley oh
18:16 MadManMarkAu1 You can, however, write your own FPGA files for it
18:17 MadManMarkAu1 brb
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18:22 MadManMarkAu1 back
18:22 MadManMarkAu1 The USRP, from memory, is targeted to training insitutions and development labs
18:23 tlockley okay, it is not really something that an end user would go and get to use
18:23 MadManMarkAu1 It allows you to get a proof-of-concept implementation of whatever radio system you're developing, and tweak/change it as you please
18:23 MadManMarkAu1 Not really, no
18:24 MadManMarkAu1 I mean, the ing is about $1,200 for just the motherboard, boc and power supply
18:24 MadManMarkAu1 *thing
18:24 MadManMarkAu1 *box
18:24 tlockley dang
18:24 MadManMarkAu1 Yeah, hence my wanting to develop something a little cheaper...
18:25 MadManMarkAu1 There are SDR projects for cheap that use your soundcard as the ADC, but they are quite low bandwidth and can't be tuned from software
18:26 tlockley ok
18:26 MadManMarkAu1 I want something that is tunable from software, has it's OWN ADC, is affordable and will offload as much of the heavy lifting as pissible to the FPGA
18:26 MadManMarkAu1 *possible
18:28 tlockley That sounds like it could be really complicated to build
18:28 tlockley or is it possible to do most of that in FPGA
18:29 MadManMarkAu1 FIR/IIR filtering in an FPGA would be easy as hell to do
18:30 MadManMarkAu1 Same with decimation
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18:30 MadManMarkAu1 DUC and DDC is a little harder
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18:30 MadManMarkAu1 (Digital Up Conversion/Digital Down Conversion)
18:30 tlockley_ .log
18:30 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
18:30 MadManMarkAu1 FIR/IIR filtering in an FPGA would be easy as hell to do
18:30 MadManMarkAu1 DUC and DDC is a little harder
18:30 MadManMarkAu1 (Digital Up Conversion/Digital Down Conversion)
18:31 tlockley_ ok. Man i really need to get my amateur license
18:31 MadManMarkAu1 Same
18:31 tlockley_ well you have advantage of actually knowing what you are doing. Most of this radio stuff goes right over my head
18:32 MadManMarkAu1 Also, I'm going to need to wrap my head around how to acquire IQ signals. I can use/process them fine and I know the theory of them, but how to acquire them is beyond me
18:32 MadManMarkAu1 Heh, thanks for the vote of confidence :)
18:34 speedrunnerG55 How are you wannabe?
18:35 wannabe1987 i'm busy.  i leave in two hours...
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19:23 roadran422 Hello
19:25 tlockley hey
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19:26 BotSteve wannabe1987: remind wannabe to start shutting down and getting ready to go
19:26 tlockley hey roadran422
19:27 roadran422 Hello haha
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19:44 Seroster Next GG project: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-gUYG5sv50&amp;feature=related
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20:45 Toastdude Anyone here?
20:45 SparkyProjects Just lurking
20:45 SparkyProjects And watching blue man group vids
20:46 Toastdude Oh, cool :)
20:46 Toastdude I like them
20:47 SparkyProjects Set of 9 here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHYZXuiwUzI
20:47 masterofmonks SparkyProjects: My Chronos Watch arrived today.
20:47 SparkyProjects Cool, have you played with it much ?
20:47 masterofmonks Just got home.
20:48 SparkyProjects OK
20:49 SparkyProjects So we won't see much of you tonight then :D
20:49 masterofmonks Why not?
20:49 masterofmonks I multi-task like hell
20:50 masterofmonks I'm eating, chatting, listening to a video, and checking the news.
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20:53 Toastdude Hi livefiretj
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21:33 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Radioactive on This is so spot on.
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21:40 injektion What is the correct term for low profile AGP?
21:42 injektion NLX?
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21:58 SparkyProjects NLX = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NLX_(motherboard_form_factor)
21:59 SparkyProjects if that helps
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22:27 injektion CMOS password is cleared
22:28 injektion I got a computer for free and it has less than 512MB of RAM what Linux live cd should I use?
22:33 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Bill Jones on Geek Space Program
22:37 injektion That's it I'm going back to SL
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22:45 injektion I want to browse the disk of this computer but the xp install is fucked
22:48 Seroster Hm
22:48 Seroster Oi battie, when be ye back?
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23:03 Seroster masterofmonks, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NwMPcYH71g&amp;NR=1
23:03 Seroster Hydrofluoric acid!
23:03 injektion That fucking womans voice
23:03 Seroster Yeah
23:03 Seroster There is one worse
23:03 Seroster Might be the same chick but with even more over exadurated pronounciation
23:04 Seroster The one that sounds like she talks in caps lock.
23:04 Seroster (The only reason I linked to it is to mess with MoM, since he hates hydrofluoric.)
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23:18 Seroster Aaaanyhow.
23:18 Seroster I'm off to bed. Cya folks
23:18 Seroster It's a shame to leave such a lively conversation, but hey, a man gotta do what a man gotta do.
23:19 Seroster .... =P
23:20 injektion I love hydrofluoric acid
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23:33 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 4 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: maglinvinn on Geek Space Program.....maglinvinn on Geek Space Program.....Angy on Remote webcam access.....Radioactive on Geek Space Program
23:34 Katemonster hi tggmc
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23:35 roadrna322 Hellooo
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23:37 BotSteve At last!  My only friend!
23:37 speedrunnerG55 hi everyone
23:37 roadrna322 Hello
23:37 roadrna322 Is that a bot saying that?
23:37 * speedrunnerG55 stops taking a break, joins xchat and talks to people wile doing his chapter 9 lab
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23:38 roadrna322 Haha
23:39 clony101 hello everyone
23:39 roadrna322 How do I change my name lol
23:39 clony101 **/nick**
23:39 * speedrunnerG55 rawers, i cant find my back pack
23:39 clony101 well its /nick namehere
23:40 roadrna322 oh thanks haha
23:41 speedrunnerG55 i found it ^_^
23:42 clony101 shool packing speed
23:42 roadran322 Is chemistry fun lol
23:42 speedrunnerG55 hey Cprossu , i found out i was the only one in the class with network issues, because everyone els got a different specific wifi adapter than i
23:43 speedrunnerG55 and i tried one of them and it worked
23:44 speedrunnerG55 and the one i got was like 15 $ more expencive then theres >_>
23:45 clony101 haha sucks for you speed
23:46 speedrunnerG55 <_<
23:47 clony101 sometimes the cheapist thing is the best thing ever
23:47 speedrunnerG55 @_@
23:48 clony101 i bought $8 4batteries and a charger
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23:54 Katemonster a shit
23:54 Katemonster hi speedrunner.
23:55 speedrunnerG55 im not a sh**
23:55 clony hi
23:55 speedrunnerG55 :/
23:55 Katemonster *ah shit
23:55 Katemonster hi liquid
23:55 Katemonster LIQUID
23:55 Katemonster hi
23:55 speedrunnerG55 LIQQUUIIIDDDD
23:55 Katemonster ^
23:55 speedrunnerG55 its been tooo longg
23:56 clony lol
23:56 Katemonster BROOOOOOOOTHER!
23:56 clony 0.o weed much
23:56 Katemonster IT'S BEEEN TOO LOOOOOOOONG
23:56 Katemonster ITSNOTOVERYETSNAKE!!!!1
23:56 Katemonster okay i'll stop.
23:57 Katemonster .tropes large ham
23:57 Katemonster .trope large ham
23:57 BotSteve Katemonster: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LargeHam
23:59 Katemonster different topic.
23:59 Katemonster http://youtu.be/eamnTyfkUBY because she fucking hates you

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