Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-08-20

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00:01 roadran322 ???
00:03 Katemonster Lockheed U-2 Dragon Lady.  they call it that because flying it (and especially landing it) is like fighting a dragon while its on its period.  extremely, extremely unforgiving of pilot incompetence
00:07 Katemonster basically an F-104 Starfighter with a set of sailplane glider wings attached, and built with the mind set of "every pound of weight we eliminate equals one more foot of altitude"
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00:24 tonsofpcs so i'm sitting on a boardwalk and on irc.  i'm a nerd.  that is all (going back to non-nerdery now)
00:33 tlockley_mobile right there with ya tonsofpcs
00:33 masterofmonks Not me, a boardwalk, seriously?
00:34 tlockley_mobile well I am on a street corner listinging to acapella
00:34 tlockley_mobile *listening
00:34 masterofmonks Music in the style of the curch?
00:35 tlockley_mobile no, just uniamplified human male voice
00:35 tlockley_mobile *unamplified
00:35 tlockley_mobile damn keyboard
00:36 masterofmonks .dict acappella
00:36 BotSteve IOError: [Errno socket error] [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer (file "/usr/lib/python2.6/socket.py", line 397, in readline)
00:36 tlockley_mobile derp
00:36 masterofmonks .wik acappella
00:36 BotSteve "A cappella (Italian for 'in the manner of the church' or 'in the manner of the chapel'[1]|) music is specifically solo or group singing without instrumental sound, or a piece intended to be performed in this way." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acappella
00:36 tlockley_mobile yes you are right there
00:37 masterofmonks It's my frim belief that most people have no idea what they are saying.
00:37 masterofmonks firm*
00:37 tlockley_mobile and while you are mostly right...
00:37 Katemonster LOL
00:38 Katemonster if that's so, I want to go to this church.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxdskI3uV3A
00:40 masterofmonks Katemonster: pffffft http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7AblTjKTHk
00:40 tlockley_mobile masterofmonks: i personally prefer to define 'a capella' as music created only with the human voice.
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00:40 Katemonster LOL
00:40 tlockley_mobile i find it to be less confusing to those who are not as well read as others
00:41 clony pokes irc
00:41 Katemonster LIQUID
00:41 Katemonster hi
00:41 * _IRC_ pokes clony
00:41 Katemonster LOL
00:43 clony im addicted to anime :(
00:44 * Katemonster is trying to find the correct color for reskinning the KSP parts in the theme of the GDI
00:44 The_Necromancer clony: Don't watch Neon Genesis Evangelion.
00:44 Katemonster clony: it's a stage.  you'll grow out of it.  maybe.
00:44 Katemonster ^ that
00:44 Katemonster cowboy bebop ruined all other anime for me.
00:44 The_Necromancer Trigun is awesome.
00:45 The_Necromancer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05ip-N0H1Ig
00:45 tlockley_mobile agreed trigun is sweet
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00:46 clony101 damn freaking computer
00:46 The_Necromancer [20:44] <Katemonster> clony: it's a stage.  you'll grow out of it.  maybe.
00:46 The_Necromancer [20:44] <Katemonster> ^ that
00:46 The_Necromancer [20:44] <Katemonster> cowboy bebop ruined all other anime for me.
00:46 The_Necromancer [20:44] <The_Necromancer> Trigun is awesome.
00:46 The_Necromancer [20:45] <The_Necromancer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05ip-N0H1Ig
00:46 The_Necromancer [20:45] <tlockley_mobile> agreed trigun is sweet
00:46 The_Necromancer Damn line breaks.
00:47 tlockley_mobile eh?
00:47 The_Necromancer that should have been a PM
00:47 tlockley_mobile o
00:53 tlockley_mobile glow in the dark shark stickers. That is all.
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00:54 clony101 the_nercomancer you should change your name to The_Boss
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00:54 The_Necromancer clony101: I do not like Bruce Springsteen
00:55 clony101 whos that
00:55 tlockley_mobile before your time
00:55 The_Necromancer clony101: put your headphones on for this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JphWi_GOIao
00:57 clony101 ok
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00:58 Katemonster HI CHRIS!!1
00:58 The_Necromancer This is one of the most interesting sounding songs iver.
00:58 The_Necromancer *SNERK*
00:59 The_Necromancer Ever
00:59 CaptainNiobe I'M NOR CHRIS!!! LMFAO!!!
00:59 Katemonster (i know.)
00:59 CaptainNiobe i know you know, and i know you know you were just teasing and i know that you know that i know that... :P
00:59 Katemonster i... wait what?
01:00 The_Necromancer Also with oine of the simplest most badass bass riffs ever.
01:00 CaptainNiobe nvm, i just woke up lol
01:00 The_Necromancer CaptainNiobe: Here, have a spatula.
01:00 clony101 time?
01:00 clony101 where you live
01:00 CaptainNiobe The_Necromancer: huh? :)
01:00 The_Necromancer -NickServ- You are already logged in as masterofmonks.
01:00 The_Necromancer -CaptainNiobe- TIME Sat Aug 20 11:00:54 2011
01:01 The_Necromancer CaptainNiobe: I was talking to your computer.
01:01 CaptainNiobe The_Necromancer: ahh... my computer says hi... :P
01:02 The_Necromancer Well actually it said that your time is Saturday August 20 11:00:54
01:02 CaptainNiobe lol...
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01:04 masterofmonks clony101: gotton to the bass riff yet?
01:04 masterofmonks gotten*
01:04 masterofmonks Damnit I need more coffee.
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01:04 CaptainNiobe i know how that goes lol... i'm on my first for the day
01:05 masterofmonks Well since you are in Australia, and I am in the U.S. it's the end of Friday for me.
01:06 CaptainNiobe :D :D my ex was in alabama, so i know all about the pesky timezones (not)
01:06 masterofmonks So it's several cups of coffee (equivilant) but running low.
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01:07 masterofmonks clony101: gotten to the bass riff yet?
01:07 * clony101 kicks the fucking computer....WORK DAN YOU
01:07 tlockley_mobile well, night
01:07 clony101 what
01:07 masterofmonks The song I linked you.
01:07 CaptainNiobe night tlockley
01:07 clony101 oh...it woulnt play...
01:08 masterofmonks wha?
01:08 clony101 keeps freezing...im doing video editing anyway
01:09 masterofmonks What are you editing?
01:10 clony101 my schools half time show..i have to make it shorter
01:10 masterofmonks How are your transitions?
01:11 clony101 pretty good...needs work tho...we are still charting song 3
01:11 clony101 oh yeah its the bands halftime show
01:11 masterofmonks I did a few thousand hours of editing in school.
01:12 masterofmonks But I had to deal with VHS
01:12 clony101 in the video im edditing...we are not marching...we are just playing in our band room
01:12 clony101 lol
01:12 * clony101 hasnt hear of vhs for 4years
01:13 masterofmonks VHS is *weird*
01:13 masterofmonks Especially when you start recording over tapes.
01:13 clony101 ik...you got to dump it to a computer then edit it and then put it back on a vhs
01:14 masterofmonks Yeah, I was doing this all with actual tape decks.
01:14 clony101 o.o
01:15 masterofmonks Granted, they were editing decks...
01:17 clony101 its going to take 7hours to convert the video
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01:32 clony101 oh my...my cpu usage is at 100%
01:33 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:
01:33 BotSteve Captain's Blog 8-19-11 Signs and Drywall Silverware http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdc2u7aQIG4
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02:28 injektion Does free node have an OS/2 channel?
02:34 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: mman454 on Geek Space Program
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03:12 Toastdude Not very live today...
03:13 Cprossu nope
03:13 Cprossu time to go kill some virtual people
03:16 Toastdude Hi Cprossu
03:31 eadthem heathkit is back
03:33 Cprossu really?
03:33 Cprossu like really back?!
03:33 eadthem http://heathkit.com/
03:33 eadthem it made hackaday
03:34 masterofmonks I was under the impression that they had been back...
03:34 eadthem at first i thougth  o well same website ive seen threre alwase
03:34 eadthem but read the text
03:34 Cprossu way cool
03:36 masterofmonks Hmm.
03:36 masterofmonks Honestly their first kits are a bit... lack luster.
03:37 eadthem ya
03:37 eadthem appears there sampling stuff
03:37 eadthem there going to have to do more than what ive seen to accualy make any money at it
03:38 Cprossu can't wait to see some real ham radio kits
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03:38 masterofmonks Cprossu: I'm with you on that.
03:38 masterofmonks There are already kit radios, but they tend to be crazy expensive.
03:39 masterofmonks Because they are also some of the higher end radios.
03:40 Cprossu the heathkits were known for being great performers, cheap, and easy to improve
03:43 eadthem well if heath puts forth a good effort then veilman will have some compitition
03:45 Cprossu and ramsey too
03:47 eadthem well cya  got to work tomarow
03:47 Cprossu later eadthem great seeing you
03:48 Cprossu glad to be back home too
03:48 masterofmonks So Cprossu, how long were you in GR?
03:50 Cprossu ~ 1 1/2 months
03:50 masterofmonks What do you do for a job again?
03:50 Cprossu freelance comp tech
03:50 masterofmonks Ah.
03:51 Cprossu might get a 'real' job within the month
03:51 masterofmonks Then you will appreciate this as much as I did. http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-guy-whos-fixing-your-computer-hates-you/
03:51 thatstek become  gg staff
03:53 Cprossu 'theoretically' speaking I am tgg staff
03:53 Cprossu btw masterofmonks can't say my customers are at all bad.
03:54 Cprossu I pick and choose mine based on their ability to learn things
03:54 Cprossu most spyware/virii I deal with honestly aren't their fault
03:54 thatstek hey yall mah komputerr won stert upp. did you plug it in? naw
03:55 masterofmonks A benefit of the age, when I was doing it, as a job, it was bad.
04:04 Cprossu yeah I bet
04:04 Cprossu I've never done it as a straight 'job'
04:04 Cprossu if I had a customer who never learned i dumped them on someone more eager than I was
04:05 Cprossu here's a hint: at the first sign of a bad piece of computer stuff most of my customers run combofix before calling me
04:05 Cprossu it rocks having customers that ready to dive into things
04:05 Cprossu I've helped 7 build computers over the freaking phone too
04:06 Cprossu I had one who didn't know a thing about computer hardware that I managed to tell her how to reseat her IDE connector back in the day
04:06 Cprossu turned out she lived so far out in the middle of nowhere she had to travel on a 3 1/2 mile gravel road
04:06 Cprossu which would always unseat the IDE connectors heh
04:07 Cprossu ^ good one @ masterofmonks
04:07 Cprossu as a result when they do have problems over their head they always give me way more money than I asked for
04:07 Cprossu today for an example I fixed 2 computers today, asked $50 and got $100.
04:07 Cprossu makes me happy
04:10 Cprossu I was so proud of one of my clients who actually ripped a PSU out of one of his friends computers, popped the lid off, identified the buldging capacitors and told him he needed a new PSU.
04:10 Cprossu (and then told him to call me to recc' a brand/model)
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04:15 * masterofmonks facepalms.
04:16 * thatstek palmfaces
04:16 masterofmonks Cprossu: I am very picky about who I choose to work for anymore.
04:16 Cprossu it's a good thing to do.
04:16 masterofmonks Generally I tell them to "pay em what it was worth to you."
04:17 masterofmonks me*
04:17 Cprossu I try to actually charge them what it's actually worth in my eyes
04:17 masterofmonks Generally they pay me more than it was worth to me.
04:17 Cprossu yeah.
04:17 Cprossu I had one customer came to me
04:18 Cprossu gouged by the geek squad ..$425
04:18 Cprossu for work they didn't do
04:18 Cprossu and software she didn't need
04:18 masterofmonks But having said that, I also tend to work myself out of customers, since when I fix something it tends to stay that way... *gasp*
04:18 thatstek ugh geeksquad
04:18 Cprossu plus they installed her floppy cable backwards and didn't plug in her P4 connector
04:18 Cprossu so the damn thing didn't even work
04:18 Cprossu they said it needed a new motherboard and she should just buy a new pc
04:18 Cprossu .... $425 later
04:19 Cprossu they sold her webroot spybot, norton (consumer version), and a few other things
04:19 Cprossu or spy sweeper
04:19 Cprossu whatever it was
04:19 Cprossu I didn't care
04:19 Cprossu because it didn't fucking work.
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04:20 thatstek double ugh norton. it screwd up my iomega screenplay pro hd
04:20 masterofmonks Do you know what I give my people for an antivirus? Microsoft Security Essentials, that's what.
04:20 Cprossu I love it.
04:20 Cprossu best piece of microsoft software ever.
04:20 thatstek thats what i have
04:20 Cprossu they (ghasp) did a damn good job
04:20 thatstek Cprossu, no that ME
04:20 thatstek lol
04:21 speedrunnerG55 hi everyone
04:21 masterofmonks It's free, it works, it doesn't complain, it does the job and shuts the hell up about it.
04:21 Cprossu and it updates
04:21 Cprossu and doesn't ever prevent me from removing a virus
04:21 Cprossu like AVG does
04:21 Cprossu fuck you avg.
04:21 masterofmonks Right.
04:21 speedrunnerG55 Cprossu, i wansnt able to connect online, or get a shared folder avalable to the VM
04:21 speedrunnerG55 >_>
04:21 masterofmonks not to mention that you have to keep updating the AVG keys.. for some stupid reason.
04:22 Cprossu I have a fix for you
04:22 Cprossu speedrunnerG55: download virtualbox
04:22 Cprossu it can read .vhd's
04:22 speedrunnerG55 ok, ill ask my teacher if i can do that in windows.
04:22 thatstek wait what
04:23 thatstek your teache can't help you?
04:23 thatstek teacher*
04:23 speedrunnerG55 he tried.
04:23 speedrunnerG55 <_<
04:23 Cprossu speedrunnerG55 virtualbox runs in windows
04:23 Cprossu and it rocks.
04:23 speedrunnerG55 lol
04:25 thatstek what are you trying to accomplish speedrunnerG55
04:25 speedrunnerG55 installing xp and server 2003 and have it be able to connect to a network, so i can make servers
04:26 speedrunnerG55 nstuff
04:26 thatstek doesnt your vm make a virtual network driver?
04:26 speedrunnerG55 so i can do some hands on so if i ever wanted to take server+
04:27 speedrunnerG55 yes, but it dosent recognise my wireless adapter
04:27 speedrunnerG55 it worked with a different one. i tried, but its not mine
04:27 thatstek well you shouldnt be running a server on wireless :P
04:28 speedrunnerG55 hehe, true, but im in schooll and the classs hasnt doe networking yet sooo.
04:28 speedrunnerG55 ..... no wire
04:29 speedrunnerG55 (even tho i alreaddy tok that class we tookk the wire down so the next classes can do there stuff)
04:29 speedrunnerG55 i hAVE TO GO TO BED
04:29 thatstek um i duno aout you but my school has ethernet jacks all around
04:29 thatstek about*
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04:30 Katemonster batsteve
04:30 speed-mobile Im back
04:30 Katemonster hi speed
04:31 speed-mobile So ye. No wire
04:31 BatSteve hi kate
04:31 Katemonster hey, you're GDI scum right?
04:31 speed-mobile Hi BatSteve and Katemonster
04:31 Katemonster http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/4792/screenshot162c.png
04:31 speed-mobile GDI?
04:31 BatSteve Global Defense Initiative
04:31 BatSteve The ones with the Low Orbit Ion Cannons
04:31 Katemonster ^
04:32 BatSteve and that's awesome kate
04:32 BatSteve I wants me one
04:32 Katemonster :D thanks.
04:32 speed-mobile >_>
04:32 Katemonster doing a NOD skin set now.
04:32 speed-mobile Wow
04:33 * speed-mobile looks around
04:34 Katemonster http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/4417/screenshot161f.png
04:34 * thatstek hides
04:34 * Katemonster charges rifle and is on the lookout for raptors
04:34 * speed-mobile gives thatstek a cookie
04:34 BatSteve I could be wearing the Deus Specs in TF2 *right now*
04:34 BatSteve http://www.teamfortress.com/deus-ex/
04:34 Katemonster holy mother of what
04:35 Katemonster duuuuuude
04:35 thatstek doood
04:35 * Katemonster fucking awesome
04:35 Cprossu woo
04:35 Katemonster i still have a hard time believing that DX3 will be anywhere near as good as the original
04:35 Cprossu BatSteve do I have your steamid?
04:36 Katemonster but holy shit.
04:36 Cprossu oh masterofmonks I did get a call today..
04:36 speed-mobile Omg
04:36 Cprossu about a computer I built in 2002.
04:36 Cprossu he wants a new one!
04:36 BatSteve Cprossu: yeah you do
04:36 BatSteve I'm "slick"
04:36 masterofmonks Cool.
04:36 Cprossu ooooh ok heh
04:37 BatSteve and yeah, I doubt it too
04:37 BatSteve But maybe...just maybe...
04:37 masterofmonks speed-mobile: omg what?
04:37 speed-mobile That tf2 thing
04:37 speed-mobile Looks awesome
04:37 speed-mobile Are those weapons and hats?
04:37 Cprossu deus ex just has too much shoes to fill
04:38 Cprossu and too many bean counters in charge
04:38 Cprossu I don't think it'll capture the magic/etc
04:38 Cprossu speaking of which... blade runner. I don't know what to make of it
04:38 thatstek i dont care about deus ex i just want hl2:ep3
04:38 thatstek lol
04:39 speed-mobile ...brb
04:39 Cprossu they signed ridley scott...
04:39 Cprossu but. still.
04:39 Cprossu it's sacred.
04:39 Cprossu I hope they do not try and 'remake' the original
04:39 Cprossu that would suck.
04:39 Cprossu so BatSteve want to go light some shit on fire in TF2?
04:41 BatSteve I'd love to but I need to sleep soon
04:41 thatstek who needs sleep
04:41 Katemonster people
04:41 Katemonster not that we'd expect you to know :p
04:42 Katemonster http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/1142/screenshot165m.png
04:42 Katemonster http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/2135/screenshot157p.png
04:42 thatstek no I do sleep
04:44 thatstek oh and kate why you using the worst imagehost ever?
04:45 Katemonster ...because that's who i've always used and used to have problems with photobucket although that was five years ago and I haven't checked again since?
04:46 thatstek yeah but its slow
04:46 BatSteve .w bayimg
04:46 BotSteve "BayImg is an image hosting website founded in 2007 by The Pirate Bay." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayimg
04:46 masterofmonks Protip: Use Imgur
04:47 thatstek we have a winne:r masterofmonks
04:47 thatstek winner:*
04:51 Katemonster i'll look into it later.
04:51 Cprossu .tfw 85020
04:51 BotSteve 98°F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'So hot my dog developed sweat glands.'
04:51 Cprossu =)
04:52 BatSteve .dict cheese
04:52 BotSteve IOError: [Errno socket error] [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer (file "/usr/lib/python2.6/socket.py", line 397, in readline)
04:52 Cprossu later BatSteve
04:52 BatSteve cool
04:52 BatSteve lookit that
04:52 Cprossu nice.
04:52 BatSteve so long Cprossu
04:52 Cprossu .dict python error
04:52 BotSteve IOError: [Errno socket error] [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer (file "/usr/lib/python2.6/socket.py", line 397, in readline)
04:52 masterofmonks oh yeah, I broke BotSteve earlier.
04:53 thatstek what did you do?
04:53 thatstek :P
04:53 masterofmonks Or at least he broke when I tried to define acapella.
04:56 speed-mobile Im bqck
04:56 * speed-mobile pokes BatSteve
04:57 thatstek hi bqck
04:57 speed-mobile Hi thatstek
04:58 thatstek hello speed
04:58 speed-mobile Do i know you?
04:58 thatstek doi know you?
04:58 thatstek inception
04:58 speed-mobile O_o
04:58 thatstek lol
04:59 thatstek well i only got on here yesturday
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05:39 * speed-mobile looks around
05:40 speed-mobile Where is wannabe?
05:41 Katemonster http://kerbalspaceprogram.com/forum/index.php?topic=2031.0
05:42 speed-mobile Hi Katemonster
05:43 Katemonster hi
06:07 Katemonster man i'm happy with how that came out.
06:14 tonsofpcs more spaceship design?
06:25 Katemonster spaceship painting.
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06:34 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: kiwifrog on Automotive HHO Generator
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08:02 LemPhone evening all
08:14 Katemonster hey lemlem
08:14 LemPhone lo
08:14 Katemonster how's the weather in the UK
08:14 LemPhone bout to get off the bus so will be logging off in a few mins
08:14 Katemonster kk
08:14 LemPhone but will be home soon
08:32 Sgt_Lemming home now
08:41 Katemonster hey!
08:41 Katemonster how are you?
08:41 Sgt_Lemming tired
08:42 Sgt_Lemming and wishing I could catch a break
08:42 Sgt_Lemming going to a science fair tomorrow to spend all day spruiking the hackerspace
08:42 Katemonster what's wrong?
08:42 Sgt_Lemming then back to work on monday
08:42 Katemonster ah
08:42 Sgt_Lemming basically haven't stopped for ~2 weeks
08:42 Katemonster rest.  rest is important
08:43 Sgt_Lemming indeed
08:43 Katemonster i showed you KSP right?
08:43 Sgt_Lemming trying to get 4 day weeks at work, and was supposed to be getting em starting on the 28th, but that seems to have been fucked up like most everything else at work
08:43 Sgt_Lemming yeah, been playing it a bit when I am sitting here talking on the phone
08:43 Sgt_Lemming my phone bill is going to be MASSIVE this month
08:44 Katemonster lol
08:44 Katemonster check out what i made: http://kerbalspaceprogram.com/forum/index.php?topic=2031.0
08:45 Sgt_Lemming very nice :-D
08:46 Katemonster i /just/ finished checking the NOD textures.  be uploading those momentarily.
08:48 Katemonster http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/8501/screenshot187z.png
08:49 Katemonster http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4586/screenshot195.png
08:49 Sgt_Lemming nice :-P
08:49 Katemonster http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9752/screenshot180z.png
08:50 Katemonster http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/771/screenshot199.png
08:50 Katemonster http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/8938/screenshot200.png
08:50 Katemonster :D thanks
08:54 pegasus http://www.wimp.com/physicspresentation/
09:02 Katemonster LMAO
09:02 Katemonster niiiiice
09:14 pegasus 11.1G + dark matter are the best parts of that
09:17 * Sgt_Lemming nods
09:17 Sgt_Lemming "or she could just not fall off a cloud" <--- I Lol'd
09:17 Katemonster yay! post updated. http://kerbalspaceprogram.com/forum/index.php?topic=2031.0
09:18 pegasus i just like that he uses dark matter to explain all the random shit that can't possibly work otherwise
09:18 pegasus kind of like how dark matter is used to explain the orbital mechanics of galaxies
09:18 pegasus (some shit that wouldn't work otherwise)
09:21 Katemonster he says "um" too much.
09:23 pegasus he also makes mistakes reading, he's not a public speaker
09:24 Sgt_Lemming public speaking and not saying um is freaking hard
09:24 Katemonster my 4th grade teacher was on a mission against um.  if someone raised their hand to answer a question and she picked on them, if the first thing out of their mouth was "um" she would pick someone else.
09:25 Katemonster she was also Norwegian and taught us to wing in Norwegian.  that didn't stick with me, but the "um" thing did.
09:25 Katemonster *sing
09:26 Sgt_Lemming lol
09:26 Sgt_Lemming one of my teachers was awesome
09:26 Sgt_Lemming he used to sing a song where every word was a different language :-P
09:26 pegasus most people i know that got the "um" beaten out of them just adopt some alternative phrasing with the same purpose as "um"
09:27 pegasus "er", "so uh", "what i'm thinking is", etc
09:27 Katemonster well see the thing is we didn't just have the um beaten out of us, we had it forcibly replaced with silence.
09:27 * Katemonster shrug
09:27 pegasus not better, in my opinion.
09:28 pegasus the function of "um" is to hold the floor while gathering thoughts
09:28 pegasus without "um" you may find your moment to speak taken from you by someone less polite
09:28 Katemonster this is true.  and something i experience regularly.
09:29 Katemonster :/
09:30 pegasus your options, i think, are to either re-learn to "um", or learn to always know what to say without having to organize
09:30 pegasus the latter is far more difficult than the former, but worth it if you can pull it off.
09:31 Katemonster with all the spiders in my brain, not likely.
09:31 Katemonster still, it stands out to me as annoying when every third word out of a person's mouth is um, and if they blink constantly while they talk.
09:32 pegasus i've never understood the blinking, myself
09:32 Katemonster i see that on PBS and BBC all the time.
09:33 pegasus i'm also annoyed by um, but i understand its function and habitual use as a form of paranoia
09:33 pegasus sort of like stuttering
09:33 pegasus and it occurs to me that i'm bound to get flak for that statement
09:33 Katemonster with the blinking, i can't tell if it's a lack of confidence or dishonesty or just a habit.
09:33 Katemonster lol
09:34 Katemonster every once in a while i trip over my own thoughts and have to backtrack half-a-word.  it annoys the hell out of me
09:37 Katemonster man i'm happy with how those skins turned out.
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09:37 pegasus i'm curious about the butterflies in your brain
09:38 pegasus spiders
09:38 pegasus spiders in your brain
09:38 pegasus a much more disturbing image.
09:38 pegasus anyway...
09:39 Katemonster bipolar II and body dysmorphic disorder
09:39 pegasus lovely
09:39 Katemonster i'm finally overcoming it though
09:39 Katemonster so i'm happy enough
09:39 pegasus chemistry or something else?
09:40 Katemonster yeah
09:40 pegasus let's talk biochemistry
09:40 Katemonster after years of getting worse while trying to find the right drugs...
09:40 Katemonster eh?
09:40 Katemonster i'm afraid i'm not much use there.
09:40 pegasus or psychoactives or neurochemistry, whichever
09:40 pegasus what drugs are you on, then
09:42 Katemonster lamotrigine (an anti-convulsive but also prescribed to bipolar sufferers as a mood stabilizer) and wellbutrin
09:42 pegasus i've heard good things about wellbutrin
09:42 Katemonster and exercise and less sugar in my diet.
09:42 pegasus did you try lithium in your trip around the pharmacy?
09:42 Katemonster i was on zoloft for about 3 years and the results were not pretty.
09:42 Katemonster nope.
09:43 pegasus also prescribed as a mood stabilizer
09:43 Katemonster i was originally diagnosed with clinical depression
09:43 pegasus and it has the simplicity of coming directly from the periodic table
09:43 Katemonster the bipolar thing wasn't made evident until about a year ago.
09:44 Katemonster they put me on the lamotrigine and it seems to work well enough.  considering i just got a 3.4 GPA for summer quarter after a long string of 1.5s and 0s
09:45 pegasus i dropped out in my junior year of high school with a 0.12GPA
09:45 Katemonster ouch
09:46 pegasus now i write software and ponder cosmology and biochemistry and number theory
09:46 pegasus stay in school, kids.
09:47 Katemonster lol
09:47 Katemonster what in the what http://youtu.be/hDlif8Km4S4
09:49 pegasus digital squib, but apparently not freddiew
09:50 Katemonster apparently not
09:50 Katemonster kind of cool though
09:51 pegasus i think that was the other guy from freddiew's videos on the monitors though
09:51 pegasus i shall have to explore this user
09:52 pegasus oh, man
09:52 pegasus this guy is the source of the trippy
09:52 pegasus http://www.youtube.com/mikediva
09:54 Katemonster LOL wow
09:55 Katemonster that was kind of terrifying.
09:57 Katemonster *LMFAO*
09:57 Katemonster the lunchablez video is... just.... /wow/
10:01 pegasus my entire train of thought watching that is a huge confusing mess for anyone not inside my head.
10:02 Katemonster LOL
10:04 Katemonster I like Robot.  needs to be the track for a gratuitous cyborg fight scene that follows the law of conservation of ninjutsu
10:04 pegasus okay, maybe your head is more confusing
10:05 Katemonster :D
10:05 Katemonster .trope conservation of ninjutsu
10:05 BotSteve Katemonster: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConservationOfNinjutsu
10:07 pegasus there's a whole movie based on this premise
10:07 pegasus also, the mythical man-month
10:07 Katemonster lol
10:12 * Sgt_Lemming finished high school 6 days after his 16th birthday with a top 1% of the state mark
10:12 Sgt_Lemming and yes, that sucked
10:18 pegasus "A special mention goes to Zombies, as Conservation of Ninjutsu basically powers the whole standard Zombie Apocalypse plot: when the living still overwhelmingly outnumber the dead zombiism spreads like wildfire and a small number of zombies manages to wipe out most of humanity; but once the dust has settled, they become markedly less dangerous and the half-dozen human survivors will each personally kill do
10:18 pegasus i rabidly disagree with that entire 2/3rds of the paragraph
10:19 pegasus reference zombieland, the fat, slow, weak, infirm, etc, are the first to get eaten
10:19 Katemonster LOL
10:19 pegasus thus making the zombie hordes ultimately unfit as combatants
10:19 Katemonster such a good movie.
10:19 pegasus however, the few survivors are bound to be marines just by the very fact that they survived
10:20 pegasus a fully armed marine with his brains intact is bound to be able to take down half a football stadium of rotting dead weaklings who can't even think clearly enough to say hello
10:20 Katemonster hoorah.
10:21 pegasus i just realized the idiocy of my statement
10:21 pegasus they call them jarheads for a reason
10:22 Katemonster they call them jarheads for their haircuts.
10:22 Katemonster but it is a trend that i have personally witnessed, yes
10:22 Katemonster personally my money is on the Green Berets.
10:23 Katemonster as tough as, and generally much better educated and more responsible.
10:23 pegasus unscrew skullcap, scoop out brains, screw skullcap back on, congratulations jarhead, you are a marine.
10:23 Katemonster no, see, the thing is the brains are already scooped out.
10:23 pegasus if you prefer. either way, "brains intact" does not apply.
10:24 Katemonster all of the men in my high school graduating class with the lowest IQs and worst attitude problems immediately joined the military
10:24 Katemonster it's an inherent recruitment problem with any job that lets you carry a gun and boss people around
10:24 pegasus besides, the marine is bound to sacrifice himself for the hapless lucky blonde bimbo and the nerdy kid who only survived by being the best at hide-and-seek
10:24 Katemonster like law enforcement, or high school football coach.
10:25 pegasus i tried to join the navy
10:25 Katemonster tried?
10:25 pegasus they've got MOS-es where you can work on radar and GPS and other nerdy toys
10:25 Katemonster yes they do.
10:25 pegasus and yeah, i got turned down for athsma
10:25 * pegasus shrugs
10:25 pegasus asthma, even
10:26 pegasus AH DUN'T BREEV GUD
10:26 Katemonster and i'm not saying that the stupid kids and assholes are the only ones who joined; two of my friends joined up; one the marines, the other the army, both as computer/telephone network techs
10:27 pegasus yep
10:27 pegasus nerd MOS ftw
10:27 Katemonster lol
10:27 Katemonster i'm somewhat exposed to this stuff 'cause of my dad
10:28 Katemonster who couldn't join the military for being A colorblind and B a polio survivor
10:28 Katemonster and instead became an electrical engineer at hughes aircraft company
10:28 Katemonster and worked the F-14, F-15, F/A-18E/F, and AC-130 programs, in charge of reliability engineering for radar systems
10:28 pegasus turned down for the navy, become a systems engineer instead.
10:29 Katemonster also the XMIM-115A missile of suck.
10:30 pegasus i throw a mean paper airplane.
10:30 Katemonster lol
10:31 Katemonster the XMIM-115A Roland was a joint French/German surface-to-air missile design; the US Army wanted in on it (for some reason) and my dad's first job at Hughes was /making it work/
10:31 Katemonster which it did not, very well.
10:33 pegasus at least he didn't get fired over it?
10:33 Katemonster nope.
10:33 pegasus so there's that, then
10:34 Katemonster he and a couple other guys basically reengineered the whole thing from the ground up and made it work fairly well, while swearing at the french the whole time
10:35 Katemonster and then the US Army Nat'l Guard bought a grand total of 27 fire control units and 600 missiles, and put them in storage for the better part of a decade before retiring them.
10:36 pegasus it's what they do
10:36 pegasus at least it wasn't the bradley
10:36 Katemonster i'm pretty sure he threw away the award he was given for the project though
10:36 Katemonster yeah, but they actually use the Bradley now
10:37 Katemonster though i don't think i'd want to be in one...
10:37 pegasus kind of my point
10:37 pegasus better that your mediocre project isn't used than your horrible abomination is
10:37 Katemonster i take it you've seen the Pentagon Wars
10:37 pegasus department of sheep specs
10:38 Katemonster :D
10:39 Katemonster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghj6oG0jcwk
10:41 pegasus that him?
10:41 Katemonster lol, no
10:41 Katemonster my dad ain't that old, and i can only wish that he was involved with the A-12.
10:42 Katemonster (he could have been involved with the YF-12 but he's not /old enough/ for that)
10:43 Katemonster i'm just amused by that video.
11:00 pegasus i'm still wandering around tvtropes. falling down a wiki hole. i close this tab all the time, but it keeps coming back...
11:01 Katemonster lol
11:01 Katemonster it's terrible that way.
11:05 pegasus i have an urge to watch wanted.
11:07 Katemonster lol
11:07 Katemonster i'm trying to decide if i should sleep or not at this juncture.
11:07 Katemonster i'm kind of thinking sleep but i know i'm going to get woken up early.
11:09 pegasus do you tend to have awesome dreams?
11:09 Katemonster i guess that's one way to put it.
11:09 pegasus then sleep
11:09 pegasus awesome dreams are always worth pursuing
11:09 Katemonster i tend to have interesting dreams.  i don't remember them as much these days after stopping zoloft.
11:10 Katemonster i think i will though
11:10 Katemonster goodnight pegasus and Sgt_Lemming
11:11 Sgt_Lemming night
11:11 Sgt_Lemming sleep well
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11:44 Seroster Damn that's scary.
11:44 Thermoelectric ?
12:11 Thermoelectric .g Sunrise in cairns
12:11 BotSteve Thermoelectric: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html?n=927
12:11 Thermoelectric Gah.
12:11 Thermoelectric *starts computer*
12:14 Vladdeh 6:31am, 8 hrs 18 minutes from now
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13:29 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhM9Yt414BA&amp;feature=related I like Kenny Bräck, he got a mean sense of humor.
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13:50 tlockley nice vid
13:53 Seroster Indeed, tlockley
13:53 tlockley I always love me some WRC
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13:58 injektion I told my brother he has a choice of either NT4, OS2/ecomstation for his computer
13:58 Cprossu rofl
13:58 tlockley o_O
13:58 Cprossu why not nt 3.5?
13:58 Cprossu xD
13:59 injektion NT3.5(1) would be too confusing for him
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14:01 Sasha-iPhone Airport full of Samsung TVs + Mini universal remote = xD
14:01 injektion Although this compaq does have OS/2, NT4/3.51 drivers
14:01 injektion It's probably old enough it can run BeOS 5
14:02 tlockley Sasha-iPhone, what you need is a URC MX-900
14:02 tlockley then you can controll just about anything
14:03 Sasha-iPhone tlockley: I already can :p
14:04 Sasha-iPhone And mine is much better and much smaller (thus indistinguishable)
14:04 injektion So NT4/3.51, OS/2, eCS or BeOS
14:04 injektion Which would be the most painful for him to use
14:05 tlockley which one has less hardware support?
14:05 Sasha-iPhone http://www.dealextreme.com/p/super-mini-tv-universal-remote-controller-keychain-2724
14:05 injektion tlockley, This is a 500MHz P3
14:06 injektion With 384MB of RAM
14:06 tlockley Sasha-iPhone: nifty. This is what I carry when making long trips. http://www.universalremote.com/images/products/residential/MX-900_lg.jpg
14:07 injektion Also it has an old 16MB ATI AGP card
14:07 tlockley would make a great IRC box
14:07 Sasha-iPhone Meh, it's not pocketable tlockley
14:08 tlockley I have big pockets
14:08 tlockley what I really need to get is one of those IR->3.5mm TRS adapters
14:16 injektion Cprossu, What browser would even run under NT 3.51 or NT4 for that matter?
14:16 tlockley NCSA mosaic?
14:17 injektion ANything else?
14:17 tlockley Netscape Navigator
14:17 tlockley Mozilla Suite 1.x
14:18 Sasha-iPhone tlockley: why won't you make one?
14:19 tlockley Cause I have another huge IR project that I need to work on
14:19 Sasha-iPhone All you need is an IR led (I have 100 :p) and a 3.5 jack
14:19 tlockley ever make a multi-touch surface?
14:19 Sasha-iPhone :o
14:19 Sasha-iPhone Nope :p
14:20 Sasha-iPhone Sure will tho one day :p
14:20 tlockley look up FTIR
14:20 tlockley or better yet...
14:20 tlockley .wiki FTIR
14:20 BotSteve "Fourier transform infrared spectroscopy (FTIR)[1]| is a technique which is used to obtain an infrared spectrum of absorption, emission, photoconductivity or Raman scattering of a solid, liquid or gas." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTIR
14:20 tlockley oops, never mind
14:20 tlockley .wiki Frustrated Total internal reflectivity
14:20 BotSteve "Total internal reflection is an optical phenomenon that happens when a ray of light strikes a medium boundary at an angle larger than a particular critical angle with respect to the normal to the surface." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_internal_reflection
14:21 Sasha-iPhone I don
14:22 Sasha-iPhone *don't have time or money to make one now. Mostly time.
14:23 tlockley yah, it does take some time. Money though, not so much. The most expensive parts are the LEDs and the display
14:23 Sasha-iPhone LEDs are expensive :p?
14:23 tlockley plexi/polycarbinate is pretty inexpensive and i am sure you can get scrap wood somewhere for free
14:24 tlockley well the ones that I used. it was about $50 for 150 flat top IR leds
14:24 Sasha-iPhone For me the most expensive part is the projector. I tried to buy one for 50, never got it.
14:25 Sasha-iPhone tlockley: I'm sorry, but you're a  idiot for paying 15 times the real cost :p
14:26 tlockley I dont think so. They were designed to have an extremely wide dispersal of IR because for my system to work the IR needs to be able to enter the plexi from the side.
14:26 tlockley The flattened LEDs are perfect for that as they will butt up agains the side with no gaps
14:27 tlockley plus they were a odd wavelength so that they would work better with my IR camera
14:27 tlockley that I made from a PS3 Camera
14:28 Sasha-iPhone Where did you get them? I got 100 IR leds, 180 degrees for 2.60$
14:28 tlockley Digikey
14:28 tlockley i assume you went the ebay route?
14:28 Sasha-iPhone :facepalm:
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14:29 Sasha-iPhone Yes, you use Alibaba/express or ebay
14:30 injektion I'd love to buy ecomstation 2.1 if I wanted to go the OS/2 route
14:30 tlockley i dunno. I am still happy with my choice of Digikey. plus most of the cost was shipping anyways cause no one wants to send things to an island
14:31 Sasha-iPhone The thing is, tlockley, I work for an LED compay
14:31 tlockley Ok, well no that makes sense.
14:31 tlockley *now
14:31 Sasha-iPhone But I don't get my LEDs from them :p
14:32 tlockley no employee discount
14:32 Sasha-iPhone Nah, I get almost anything I want for free, but they mostly sell LED panels, tubes, spots and strips
14:33 tlockley ah
14:33 Sasha-iPhone I did get some insane heatsinks tho
14:33 tlockley well, in building my first MT panel. I came across a company called environmental lights or something
14:33 tlockley they sold IR strips
14:34 tlockley basically premade SMT strips
14:34 tlockley dmn do they overcharge
14:34 tlockley *damn
14:34 tlockley http://www.environmentallights.com/InfraRed-LED-Strips_C504.aspx
14:34 Sasha-iPhone I can get strips for 1.8 $ per meter
14:34 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Radioactive on Japan devistated by 8.9 Magnitude quake and associated Tsunami
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14:37 Sasha-iPhone tlockley: please don't tell me you paid 50$/m ...
14:37 tlockley hellz no
14:37 tlockley like I said, at the time Digikey was cheaper
14:37 Sasha-iPhone Then how much did you pay?
14:42 tlockley i got 150 180deg leds for $50 incl shipping
14:42 tlockley I believe they are made by OSRAM
14:42 Sasha-iPhone tlockley: you know, websites like DealExtreme, China-Vision, and Digikey are the worst for LEDs.
14:43 tlockley well I didnt at the time. I made my first one while I was still in High School
14:44 tlockley where do you suggest they best place is to get them?
14:44 Cprossu man I am happy.
14:44 Sasha-iPhone And OSRAM are horrible. They have some of the worst quality. The best ones are Cree and Epistar
14:44 Cprossu looking at our weathercam our quality is at least 100 fold better than it used to be
14:44 Sasha-iPhone BTW, I got to fly. See you latee
14:44 tlockley cya
14:44 Cprossu later Sasha-iPhone
14:45 tlockley is that just from tweaking the caputre computer?
14:45 injektion Where is NT4 SP6a located?
14:45 Cprossu it was from totally replacing the capture computer
14:45 tlockley ah
14:46 Cprossu we had a blackmagic intensity pro cap card we couldn't use
14:46 injektion MS's FTP is such an abortion these days
14:46 tlockley PCI or Firewire>
14:46 Cprossu you can blame dell and it's shit-tacular bios for that one tlockley
14:46 tlockley *?
14:46 Cprossu so I sent over some parts
14:46 Cprossu the black magic intensity is PCI-E
14:46 tlockley oh, i know all about dell and blackmagic
14:46 Cprossu anyway
14:47 tlockley the IT dept at my college was using their FW product on some dells
14:47 Cprossu I sent over a phenom 9750 and a crappy motherboard
14:47 tlockley what a show
14:47 Cprossu and some ram
14:47 Cprossu and it just sat on a shelf collecting dust
14:47 Cprossu which made me sad!
14:47 Cprossu just one reason I decided to get my ass down to the lab
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14:50 tlockley god damn CISCO
14:50 Cprossu what did I last say tlockley?
14:50 Cprossu I hate cisco
14:50 tlockley ass to lab
14:50 Cprossu had a 3600 at the front of my network to years
14:50 Cprossu ok good
14:50 tlockley i have a RVS082 that is just being such a pill
14:51 Cprossu you'll laugh at this though
14:51 Cprossu I went through cisco's 1.01 web curriculum (we had it on cd's)
14:51 Cprossu and was going to go for my ccna
14:51 Cprossu and one day I discovered a linux box and IPTABLES
14:51 tlockley derp
14:52 Cprossu and laughed at why anyone would even bother using cisco
14:52 tlockley yah. I really should quit being lazy and do something like that.
14:52 tlockley but im sorta lazy
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14:52 injektion The day I discovered FreeBSD and pf
14:53 tlockley NetBSD anyone?
14:53 Cprossu but still same diff
14:53 Cprossu 100 better and easier ways to accomplish the same
14:53 Cprossu and without the instability!
14:53 tlockley yep
14:55 Cprossu I still like cisco's switches though
14:55 tlockley their smart switches are awsome
14:55 tlockley I once did a lan party with two catalyst XLs
14:56 Cprossu I only have 1 lan party switch
14:56 Cprossu a Bay Networks Centillion 100 (with 80 10/100 ports)
14:56 tlockley nice
14:56 Cprossu that switch kicks ass!
14:57 tlockley I currently have a Netgear 1GigE stackabale smart switch with 4 SFP ports and a Dell PowerConnect 2408 1GigE smart switch
14:57 Cprossu http://images02.olx.com.pk/ui/9/23/82/1287653131_130772182_1-Pictures-of--Bay-Networks-Centillion-100port-ATM-Speed100Mbps-Original-Switch-1287653131.jpg
14:57 Cprossu ^ - 1 rack of 10/100's
14:57 tlockley wow
14:58 injektion I'm in the process of getting a computer cabinet and putting everything computer related into it but I am still unsure about what switch I should use
14:58 tlockley TGG has some ISP level switch gear yes?
14:58 Cprossu I'm currently running a little netgear gbe myself though
14:58 Cprossu tlockley yeah
14:58 tlockley someone should start a TGG ISP
14:58 Cprossu we have a bunch of cisco gear that yNos is going to put in place
14:58 Cprossu we do not have our big modems anymore though
14:58 Cprossu those were cool.
14:59 injektion The linksys voip phone I bought is picky about what switch it's plugged into
14:59 Cprossu poe?
14:59 injektion No
14:59 tlockley lame
14:59 injektion It didn't like being plugged into the gbe air port extreme
15:00 injektion My dad's solution was "buy another airport express"
15:01 injektion I'm like I am not paying that much for another wifi bridge
15:01 tlockley does it make a link or just not work period
15:01 tlockley like do lights light up?
15:01 Cprossu rofl @ that though
15:01 injektion It makes a link but it will reboot
15:01 tlockley shitty firmware
15:01 injektion Until it is fixed
15:01 Cprossu WRT54GL's for the win.
15:01 Cprossu is all I can say
15:01 Cprossu or nearly any version of G or GS
15:01 tlockley WRT310N
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15:02 BotSteve ****Attention on deck!  Captain on the bridge!****
15:02 Cprossu ~ tend to not be as stable as I'd like them to be
15:02 injektion I don't use the airport extreme's routing functionality because if I did I would shoot myself
15:02 Cprossu salutations CaptainBoden
15:02 tlockley hey CaptainBoden
15:02 CaptainBoden hey guys
15:02 BotSteve CaptainBoden: I have the following messages for you:
15:02 BotSteve At 05 Aug 21:37Z, Sasha_ asked me to tell CaptainBoden to show this image to the next troll that comes through that door: http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/184367_700b.jpg
15:02 BotSteve At 12 Aug 14:43Z, yNos asked me to tell CaptainBoden next time you want to go for a wild ride down a hill, checkout Fisk Knob near algoma and 21mi. highest point in kent county. no stoplights not much traffic - is a wonderfull place to "test" gravity power vehicles...
15:02 BotSteve At 12 Aug 14:52Z, yNos asked me to tell CaptainBoden http://fusioncycling.org/Portals/34/FiskKnobCourseProfile.jpg for the approx profile.. this is a time trial thing, i am not sure where they break off onto another road.. i think at the 3.2 mile mark.
15:02 BotSteve Further messages sent privately
15:03 Cprossu wow you got the firehose of messages there
15:03 CaptainBoden haven't been on in a while
15:05 Cprossu glad to see that the stream quality is really as I had wanted it. Very happy with the results.
15:06 Seroster Started waking up now, eh?
15:07 Seroster BotSteve: tell BatSteve Read up a few minutes, one line for "u got mail", three fat lines of messages and then a note he got a shitload more. Can't you rework the coding and make BotSteve go directly to PM when the ammount of messages exceeds 3?
15:07 BotSteve Seroster: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
15:09 tlockley CaptainBoden: if everything goes to plan, the server and raid will be in the mail monday
15:11 injektion Do those ethernet wall jacks get mounted to electrical boxes?
15:12 tlockley sorta
15:12 tlockley they are actually mounted to a wall plate
15:12 tlockley and depending on the contracotr
15:12 tlockley *contracter
15:12 injektion This is going to be a DIY thing
15:12 Seroster I don't trust people who keep mains voltage and ethernet voltage in the same box.
15:12 injektion Seroster, not like that
15:13 tlockley got to your hardware store and get a wall plate and keystone/leviton attachments for it
15:13 injektion That's all I need right?
15:13 Seroster injektion, I have one of them 5 in one boxes in my apartment. I hate it. =P
15:13 CaptainBoden awesome, thank you :)
15:13 tlockley besides that it is recomended that you get a LV-1 plate so that you dont scrape the casing off the cat5
15:14 tlockley is there a home depo nearby
15:14 tlockley or a lowes
15:14 injektion There is a HD 5 minutes away from me
15:14 tlockley they should have an isle dedicated to data and everything that you need to make it happen
15:14 SparkyProjects Seroster, i think in the majority of countries, it's ellegal to do that
15:14 SparkyProjects It's even illegal to run fire alarm system in the same conduit or trunking (unless there's a separator) as low voltage in the UK
15:15 injektion tlockley, I live in the state home depot was started in
15:15 tlockley lol
15:15 Seroster SparkyProjects, Most likely it's safe, but still sets off a few alarms =P
15:15 Seroster Mains, L connection (male/female) Ethernet and phone jack
15:16 SparkyProjects It may be safe, but it's illegal
15:16 Seroster Not here =P
15:16 injektion The first home depot was in Forest Park, GA in what used to be a Treasure Island/Treasury store which is now an expo center/flea market
15:16 tlockley IIRC there is not much in the US Elec Code about Cat5 and Mains together but the rule of thumb is that you dont put them together if you dont have to. and it is desireable to run cat5 perpindicular to mains in walls or ceiling
15:17 SparkyProjects If data is  run in its own conduit, or is run in segmented trunking, and the box has separators, that's ok
15:17 Seroster I haven't ben inside it, and I wont be any time soon either
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15:17 tlockley well honestly i find the UK electric code to be more sensible in alot of ways
15:18 Seroster tlockley, Honestly I find most of what the UK does more sensible than the US=P
15:18 SparkyProjects But more and more, parallel runs of data and mains needs a separation of 6 inches (according to some data installers)
15:18 tlockley except gun and self protection laws
15:18 SparkyProjects We don't need guns :P
15:18 Seroster My previous statement still stands, but I won't debate it in this particular room
15:19 tlockley agreed
15:19 Seroster But we can discuss it in the NSFW room if you have a strong urge =P
15:19 tlockley nope
15:20 tlockley political arguments are like bjs. nothing of merrit comes from them
15:20 CaptainBoden you've obviously never met Dianne
15:21 tlockley i guess not
15:21 Seroster tlockley, Just refrain from using teeth.
15:21 injektion LOL
15:22 injektion I'd say something but nah it isn't worth it
15:22 Cprossu oh CaptainBoden sorry for the mess I left, but enjoy the suitcase full of donations/etc
15:22 Seroster Hes used to messes =P
15:22 CaptainBoden Thank you sir :)
15:23 Cprossu it was a fun trip, may the next time I wire up master control be at avalon ;)
15:23 CaptainBoden I hope to see you back before then, lol
15:23 SparkyProjects Cprossu, that console is cleaner than it was when you arrived :D
15:23 Cprossu you should though
15:23 Seroster SparkyProjects, A hand grenade would have had the same effect xD
15:24 CaptainBoden it was cool having you around. You're a damn talented and capable guy.
15:24 Seroster And he has a beard! Don't forget the beard!
15:24 CaptainBoden <---- hates the beard
15:24 Cprossu I hope to be back there when I get my fundings together again.
15:24 Seroster ...I thought you were straight? =P
15:24 Cprossu it may take me a bit though
15:25 CaptainBoden I am straight, but let's not confuse what he has as a Beard. He looks like someone superglued pubes to his chin.
15:26 Cprossu CaptainBoden I am working on a unix beard.
15:26 injektion Which reminds me I need to shave
15:26 injektion My face
15:26 tlockley you old greyberd
15:26 tlockley *beard
15:26 Seroster Nice save, injektion xD
15:27 Seroster CaptainB, the problem with beards is when you make out with them, are involved in intimate relations or if food is stuck in them. =P
15:27 injektion This was the first ever home depot http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_UJQzmnjudgM/RlqWp1GfnYI/AAAAAAAAAGo/CbO7b-F5-jw/s1600-h/treasureisland_jonesborord_2_022407.jpg
15:27 tlockley wow
15:28 tlockley i do so very much wish there was a HD on Nantucket
15:28 tlockley but alas there is no space
15:28 injektion The man from nantucket
15:28 tlockley one of
15:30 Cprossu wow tgg site dumped itself and it's 11:30AM
15:30 Cprossu at grr
15:30 Cprossu usually it does it at PM
15:33 SparkyProjects Seroster, it's back
15:33 Seroster *
15:33 Seroster ?*
15:35 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Tysk on Vote for Us in Youtube's On the Rise Competition!.....Cprossu on Japan devistated by 8.9 Magnitude quake and associated Tsunami
15:37 CaptainNiobe chris, i'm glad you're here... NOW EVERYONE CAN STOP CONFUSING ME WITH YOU! :P :D
15:39 Seroster Hey Boden, why do you have two seperate clients?
15:39 Seroster =D
15:40 CaptainNiobe i didn't know chris's internet could ping from australia :P
15:40 Seroster Its easy
15:41 CaptainNiobe it is? *feels newb* lol
15:42 CaptainNiobe btw, how did you end up as channel admin? :D
15:42 Seroster Common way to evade ip bans
15:42 Seroster I sucked a LOT of dick
15:43 CaptainNiobe i don't evade ip bans unless i believe it's in error, then i do it simply to talk to an admin... if it's valid, i leave and don't come back... :P
15:44 Seroster I prefer not getting banned too
15:44 CaptainNiobe and whose dick did you suck to get up there? :P
15:45 Seroster All the ones I could find
15:45 CaptainNiobe HAHA!!! you aren't near gr by any chance, are you? :P
15:46 Seroster Not unless they have moved GrandRapids to sweden. =P
15:46 CaptainNiobe they could have... NOT! :P
15:47 Seroster Hey, we went to the moon
15:47 CaptainNiobe you did?
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15:47 CaptainNiobe morning Katemonster
15:47 Seroster Yeah, and I haven't eaten mexican food ever since.
15:48 CaptainNiobe lol... :D
15:48 Katezombie -___-
15:48 Katezombie i am so fucking tired.
15:48 CaptainNiobe go to bed? or go BACK to bed?
15:48 Katezombie couldn't sleep
15:48 Katezombie like laid there for 4 hours and couldn't sleep.
15:48 CaptainNiobe got a bathtub?
15:49 Katezombie don't feel like having a bath.
15:49 Seroster Katezombie, Do you like coffee?
15:49 Katezombie went out and got some exercise, hopefully that'll help knock me out later
15:49 Katezombie i detest coffee.
15:49 CaptainNiobe damn, i was going to suggest a long soak in a warm bath... that usually helps wind someone down...
15:49 Katezombie but i did accomplish something kind of awesome last night.
15:49 Katezombie http://kerbalspaceprogram.com/forum/index.php?topic=2031.0
15:51 * CaptainNiobe seriously wishes she had a bathtub to soak in
15:52 Katezombie got a shovel?
15:52 CaptainNiobe one that can cut through a second-floor floor? nope :D
15:53 tlockley how about a truck?
15:53 Katezombie lol
15:53 CaptainNiobe and i'm not sure the church across the street would be very apprciative if i dug out a bath in their lawn - and then used it! :P
15:53 Katezombie they probably deserve it.
15:54 CaptainNiobe nah, they're ok... i don't have any problems with them... they aren't door-knockers...
15:54 Katezombie ah.
15:54 CaptainNiobe hey, SparkyProjects, you think you can email me your bathtub? :D
15:55 SparkyProjects :P
15:56 CaptainNiobe if i get an email notification of you sending me a bathtub... grrr.... lol... :D
15:56 Seroster CaptainNiobe, SparkyProjects is oldschool, he just stands out in the rain and shaves with a flintstone
15:56 Katezombie ^
15:56 CaptainNiobe Seroster, i know, sparky and i have been friends for... what... 6 years almost?
15:57 Seroster Your his granddaughter?
15:57 SparkyProjects Something like that :)
15:57 CaptainNiobe no, just friends
15:57 Seroster Ah
15:57 Seroster The MOTHER of his granddaughter
15:57 CaptainNiobe but he's a father figure to me as welkl as a friend... he's a wonderful, caring, kind man...
15:58 Seroster And he was to Napoleon too
15:58 tlockley finally. Man I hate the old PPC Xserves
15:58 CaptainNiobe and seroster, i'm 25+ years his junior... :P
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15:59 Seroster Holy crap, you were that chick on the door in the water in titanic?
16:00 CaptainNiobe you wish. or is that i wish? :P
16:02 tlockley CaptainBoden: Do you want me to include any printer drivers on the XServe that I am sending?
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16:06 CaptainNiobe chat is suddenly dead... i think i murdered it... oops...
16:06 tlockley whatever, lets start another conversation
16:07 CaptainNiobe lol
16:07 CaptainNiobe about what? :D
16:07 tlockley VOIP
16:07 Cprossu I hates it!
16:07 CaptainNiobe voice-over-internet-proticol
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16:08 tlockley but you use ventrilo
16:08 tlockley that is technically VOIP
16:08 Cprossu analog paper insulated high pressure seated copper twisted pair for the win.
16:08 mashpriborintorg oh hai
16:08 Cprossu just because I use something doesn't mean I don't hate it
16:08 Cprossu like windows for an example
16:08 tlockley true
16:09 CaptainNiobe fiber optic is better i think?
16:09 tlockley fiber os great
16:09 tlockley *is
16:09 Cprossu until it has a "Shovel" gap
16:09 tlockley unless you want FTTP
16:09 Seroster ...Whats with the shovels?
16:10 tlockley they are useful
16:10 Seroster I prefer a crowbar
16:10 CaptainNiobe idiots who don't check where the cables lie? their bloody fault...
16:10 tlockley but can you cook eggs on a crowbar?
16:10 Cprossu fiber>-------/gap created by digging/-------<-fiber
16:10 SparkyProjects A shovel is a pain when it goes through a fibre
16:10 Seroster tlockley, Can you break open a door with a shovel?
16:10 tlockley depends on the shovel
16:10 Seroster The egg analogy depends on the crowbar
16:10 tlockley but generally yes
16:11 Cprossu try breaking a compressed copper phone line with just a shovel lol
16:11 Seroster Try killing a zombie with a shovel
16:11 CaptainNiobe that's why there's dial before you dig numbers (at least here in australia)...
16:11 tlockley dig-safe is manditory in the US
16:12 SparkyProjects You can break through a house with this shovel http://pictures.tractorfan.nl/groot/j/jcb/162124-shovel-jcb.jpg
16:12 tlockley though no one in the resedentials use it
16:12 Seroster Dig safe?
16:12 Cprossu yeah it's a program
16:12 Cprossu that people with backhoes ignore
16:12 Seroster How does it work?
16:12 Cprossu especially when dealing with natural gas lines
16:12 tlockley you call a number and they come with city plans
16:12 Seroster How does it work?
16:13 tlockley and mark out where the lines are
16:13 CaptainNiobe ifr idiots can't be bothered calling and cause an outage, then they should be charged with the repair bill... it's an inconvieniance to the customers, yes, but they probably won't dig without finding out again lol
16:13 Cprossu there are two events that digg safe won't help you with though tlockley
16:13 tlockley oh
16:13 Cprossu 1) undocumented gov't runs 2) badly documented runs that actually run where they shouldn't
16:13 SparkyProjects http://www.digsafe.com/
16:13 tlockley true
16:13 Cprossu it's surprising how fast you are surrounded by black SUV's
16:14 Cprossu when you knock one of those lines out
16:14 tlockley yep
16:14 Cprossu I am not kidding either
16:14 Cprossu o_o
16:14 Cprossu scary fast.
16:14 Seroster Cprossu, When people don't mark where they put their crap I can't be blamed for fucking it up
16:14 CaptainNiobe have you done it, Cprossu?
16:14 Cprossu I was on a crew when it happened
16:14 Cprossu tagging along
16:14 CaptainNiobe ahh... no wonder you know abut black suvs... lol...
16:14 tlockley did they say whose line you hit?
16:15 Cprossu all of a sudden we were surrounded by black SUV's and USWEST trucks
16:15 Cprossu that was on a need to know basis.
16:15 Cprossu uswest accidently sent the bill to our office though
16:15 CaptainNiobe government lines then...
16:15 Cprossu want to guess?
16:15 Cprossu yeah gov't
16:16 Cprossu want to guess the 'cost' to repair?
16:16 tlockley were you near any bases?
16:16 SparkyProjects Heard one story of a homeowner who hammered in a pole fr their mailbox, he hit a telephone line, and a power line
16:16 SparkyProjects Not only did he knock out the power, but also caused major problems in other houses, and a phone exploded in one of the houses.
16:16 Cprossu roughly 100 miles away tlockley
16:16 CaptainNiobe i'm guessing a few 10s of thousands to repair
16:16 Cprossu anyway want to know the cost to repair?
16:16 tlockley might have been DoD or .mil net
16:16 CaptainNiobe ^^ :D
16:16 Cprossu 10.......followed by 6 0's
16:17 Seroster Cprossu, I would have ben like "Either YOU pay for it or I tell wikileaks about it."
16:17 Cprossu wikileaks didn't exist
16:17 Cprossu back then
16:17 CaptainNiobe you're shitting me... for a simple cut?
16:17 Cprossu no I am not shitting you
16:17 tlockley fiber splices are expensive
16:17 Cprossu from the best we could make it they were not splicing it.
16:18 CaptainNiobe they ripped the whole line up and replaced the etire line?
16:18 Cprossu yeah.
16:18 CaptainNiobe entire*
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16:18 Seroster CaptainNiobe, Whoa, the military being stupid? Hold the presses!
16:18 CaptainNiobe wow... talk about overspending
16:18 Cprossu well whatever that's what happened
16:18 Cprossu the boss of the company I was working with though got the bill
16:18 Cprossu and damn near shit his pants
16:19 CaptainNiobe lol... so he wold at that cost
16:19 SparkyProjects CaptainNiobe, i worked in Telephone exchanges (installing), i worked for Plessey, if we knocked out a live exchange, Plessey would have been charged £600 a minute by the GPO.
16:19 SparkyProjects And that was 35 years ago
16:19 tlockley pwhew, found my 10.5 server keys
16:19 CaptainNiobe O.O
16:19 Cprossu good times though
16:19 Cprossu we called up uswest they were like "oh shit"
16:19 Cprossu "you weren't supposed to see that"
16:19 Seroster xd
16:19 CaptainNiobe LOL!!! oops moment! :D
16:20 Cprossu and after about 2 weeks of yes/no/whatever
16:20 Seroster "Yeah. We'll sell the document to you for 10.000.000! =D
16:20 Cprossu we got the bill to the right place and they stopped bugging us
16:20 Cprossu weird though
16:21 CaptainNiobe sounds like it was a very extraordinary time...
16:21 Seroster Cprossu, Here the rules are "if it is not on the map it isnt there"
16:22 SparkyProjects Here the rules are "even if the map says there's nothing there, you are responsible for checking the area of work"
16:22 SparkyProjects Something i was charged to do when we or contractors were on site
16:23 Seroster I suppose we are more keen on punishing the ones who messed up =P
16:26 SparkyProjects Unfortunately, ours was an old site, originally built in the late 30's, many changes of management, amd many times the offices were shifted and sorted, plans get lost, people didn't update plans, or the updated version of the plan was mislaid, so when any work was proposed, i had to go out with a scanner and check the area, and even then i would tell contractors not to go at it like a bull in a china shop
16:26 Seroster Actually, bulls are very gentle around china
16:26 CaptainNiobe if people don't know it's there, they can't be held responsible if there's no reference whatsoever on it... what are they supposed to do, scrape  hole out of (reletively) soft dirt, checking for cables every centimeter they go? :-\
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16:27 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk_zpMory-0
16:27 Seroster CaptainNiobe, a metal detector works fine
16:28 Seroster A guy on a forum I was one dug off a red cable, and he was nice enough to call the phone company and report it, but he doesnt have to since it was uncharted
16:28 CaptainNiobe fiber optic cable isn't metal... and if it doesn't go into a metal case, a metal detector won't find it
16:28 Seroster I was more on the lines of old 30's-80's vintage uncharted cables
16:29 CaptainNiobe ahh, my bad... sorry
16:30 SparkyProjects Captainiobe, when fibre is laid, it is either fibre with a wire trace built in, or it should be run with a separate tracer wire
16:31 * CaptainNiobe pokes SparkyProjects for misspelling her name, but thanks him all the same
16:31 SparkyProjects :P
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16:57 Seroster Aww FUCK
16:57 Seroster YT changed again
16:57 tlockley changed?
16:57 Seroster Crap
16:57 Seroster Hrm
16:57 SparkyProjects What changed ?
16:58 Seroster It changed my default from subs/recs/activity to browse. Nevermind
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17:24 tggmc Major weatherhappening in GR today. Lightning has apparently struck nearby. 3 fire trucks passed by the buildijng so far
17:25 SparkyProjects See any smoke ?
17:25 tggmc nah, not yet
17:25 tggmc whatever was hit is in the next township up the road
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17:26 tggmc which does have its own fire dept. so whatever it is is too big for just them to handle
17:26 Seroster How the heck did I find brain surgery on yt?
17:27 Seroster I was watching tom n jerry just a minute ago
17:31 tlockley tggmc, anthing interesting at the lab today?
17:32 tggmc not really, just chilling
17:32 mashpriborintorg and any news about the next parts of the forklift autopsy ?
17:32 tggmc getting some stuff done in the computer lab
17:32 tggmc i think that's about it
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17:38 Seroster Whos is in mc?
17:42 * MadManMarkAu1 is in MineCraft, if that helps :P
17:43 SparkyProjects Seroster, Chris was there earlier
17:44 SparkyProjects http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=GRR&amp;product=NCR&amp;overlay=11101111&amp;loop=yes
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17:45 tlockley well daym
17:46 MadManMarkAu1 Wow, nice storm
17:46 MadManMarkAu1 It kinda worries me, knowing what TGG's roof is liek
17:47 tlockley is the roof still all messd up?
17:47 MadManMarkAu1 They're slowly fixing it
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17:47 MadManMarkAu1 But I believe it's not 100%
17:47 SparkyProjects I think they cured most of the leaks
17:47 SparkyProjects But the roof isn't perfect
17:48 tlockley do HV doesent leak like a siv anymore
17:48 tlockley *does
17:50 NeWtoz yeah, but I did wish it wasn't storming
17:50 NeWtoz I wanted to move today
17:50 MadManMarkAu1 *sieve
17:50 tlockley thanks
17:51 MadManMarkAu1 np :)
17:51 tlockley yet another reason why english spelling is silly
17:51 tlockley like knife
17:51 MadManMarkAu Yeah, pretty much
17:52 MadManMarkAu I'm a grammar nazi. When I see people using incorrect spelling and/or punctuation, I rage so hard inside.
17:52 MadManMarkAu It's really bad, because my girlfriend is horrible at spelling >_<
17:52 SparkyProjects Unfortunately, the english language is partly based on many other languages :P
17:52 NeWtoz like colour ;)
17:52 tlockley sounds like my friend
17:52 MadManMarkAu Then there are dialects
17:52 MadManMarkAu In Australia, we spell it "color"
17:52 MadManMarkAu Hang on...
17:52 tlockley he is a professional writing major
17:53 MadManMarkAu "color" vs. "colour"...
17:53 tlockley arghhhhhhhhhh. Apple, why is your terminal app such shit
17:53 angy because you don't use zsh!
17:53 MadManMarkAu Self-answering question there, tlockley
17:54 tlockley angy: even with zsh it runs like crap
17:54 tlockley over 5s to autocomplete a directory name
17:55 tlockley WTF!?!?!
17:55 angy I only have that lag when I'm doing scp
17:55 angy but it's the same with my other workstations
17:55 tlockley well running 10.7 is probably not the best move either
17:55 angy indeed
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18:01 NeWtoz the rain is slowing
18:02 NeWtoz at least now I can start to use the TGG's weathercam as my weather indicator
18:05 SparkyProjects Is the stream feezing for anyone else ?
18:06 NeWtoz it's stuttering a little
18:06 NeWtoz now it's fine
18:06 NeWtoz so no?
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18:40 tonsofpcs yay beach
18:55 tlockley beach?
18:55 tlockley where?
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19:10 Sasha_ Oh hai
19:10 Sasha_ So… where were we, tlockley, you still here?
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19:29 tlockley hey Sasha_
19:29 Sasha_ Oh hai
19:29 Sasha_ I'm back :P
19:31 Sasha_ So where were we with the LEDs?
19:31 tlockley oh, we were talking about where the best place to get them 'cause apparently OSRAM is shit
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19:32 Seroster Holy crap
19:32 Sasha_ Yeah, I tested them against the stuff we get, and they're really bad. Especially the stuff they sell in retail.
19:33 tlockley what defines a bad led?
19:33 Seroster 15 by 15 by 22 inches microwave oven (40/40/55 cm)
19:33 Sasha_ tlockley: well… a lot of things :P
19:34 Seroster Ive seen washing machines that are bigger
19:34 tlockley ah
19:34 Seroster Smaller*
19:34 Seroster Fuck.
19:35 Sasha_ tlockley: lifetime, cir, efficiency, efficiency degradation, cir degradation, heat dissipation, packaging, oh gauwd lots more. Pretty much every aspect of the LED
19:35 Sasha_ *CRI, not CIR :P
19:36 tlockley interesting
19:37 tlockley never realized that OSRAM owned Sylvania
19:39 Sasha_ The big brands like OSRAM, Phillips and Zumbtobel usually do not give their high end/good quality products unless its for a huge order. Huge as in Apple choosing them as an LED supplier for their iPads and iPhones...
19:40 tlockley so when looking for consumer LEDs look at smaller manufacturers
19:42 Sasha_ exactly
19:42 Sasha_ Especially avoid the stuff they sell in shops… they're like the Lowest Common Denominator or whatever of LEDs
19:43 tlockley yah. Expecially considering the only electronics shop here is a RadioShack
19:46 Seroster Shit this thing is kickass
19:46 tlockley microwave?
19:46 Sasha_ Well at least that's better than what we have here
19:47 tlockley what pray tell do you have Sasha_?
19:47 Sasha_ The company I work for has to jack up prices for LED spots by dozens of times because people won't buy our high efficiency ones for the same price that they could buy the crappy ones in the stores
19:47 tlockley LED spotlight?
19:47 Sasha_ tlockley: I was comparing Radioshack to the stuff I have here, not the microwave :P
19:47 tlockley o, my bad. commenting to Seroster
19:48 masterofmonks I was at my local radioshack today.. they didn't have flush cutters.
19:49 tlockley radioshack doesent sell electronics components anymore. they usuially have like 2 drawr stacks hidden in the back and thats it
19:49 tlockley my radioshack still has stock from back when it was Tandy Corp
19:49 masterofmonks Well supposedly they are about to start being more like they once were.
19:50 masterofmonks As a matter of fact...
19:50 masterofmonks http://hackaday.com/2011/08/19/meet-radio-shacks-new-parallax-lineup/
19:52 tlockley interesting. I hope they follow through
19:53 tlockley and drop that idiotic "The Shack" rebranding that they have been pushing of late
19:54 tlockley practically every radio shack i have been in recently looks like a chinese knock-off clearence house mashed up with a cell dealer
19:54 masterofmonks I want to see something like a mini hackerspace in radioshacks.
19:55 masterofmonks Maybe 3-4 little soldering stations, a couple of vending machines..
19:55 masterofmonks That will run up the sales too.
19:55 exor674 masterofmonks: a good deal of radioshacks are tiny, though
19:55 masterofmonks mine is fairly decent;y sized.
19:55 masterofmonks It's not in a mall or anything.
19:56 masterofmonks But they should all have enough room for a single station.
19:56 exor674 mine's in a stripmall
19:56 tlockley ouch
19:56 tlockley well mine is run buy two guys that dont even know where their own stock is or whats in the shop
19:57 masterofmonks Think about it like this. "Damn I just burnt uop a resistor." *trip to the counter to buy a new one*
19:58 exor674 I should have been paying more attention, but I once asked where a headphone splitter was, they picked one out for me -- I was an idiot and didn't examine it enough
19:58 exor674 ... turned out to be a 2.5mm
19:59 tlockley this is the problem with most all radio shacks. They seem to have a worse hiring policy than McDonnalds
20:00 exor674 tlockley: at least people at McDonalds know what french fries are
20:00 tlockley case and point
20:00 tlockley I once had a radioshack guy give me RG-6 coax ends when I asked for RJ-11 ends
20:01 tlockley but enough ragging on radio shack
20:02 masterofmonks Yes, they are actually trying to do something about their problems.
20:03 tlockley and I appreciate that. I do so very much hate waiting upto a week to get components shipped in
20:04 exor674 the thing I hate the most about getting components shipped is the parts I've needed are generally cheaper then shipping
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20:05 masterofmonks exor674: Definitely.
20:06 exor674 so I ended up ordering like a large amount of each! at least resistors don't spoil
20:06 tlockley so true
20:07 exor674 I bought like 200 of each hah! ( which was the lowest price point that got me over shipping )
20:07 Alex_ short question: what's the audio currently on the live stream?
20:17 Sasha_ The key to success is to either buy small quantities on ebay, or ask for "free samples" on alibaba :P
20:18 SparkyProjects Alex_ it's a scanner, covering the emmergency services, amateur radio, and maybe utility companies
20:19 Sasha_ brb
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20:38 Cprossu busses too iirc
20:38 Seroster tlockley, this microwave oven is big enough you can put an average microwave INSIDE it
20:39 Seroster It got both infrared and microwave
20:39 Seroster 1.5kw
20:39 Seroster of microwave power! It draws up to 2kw total
20:39 Seroster Turntable, a REAL lightbulb in it
20:39 tlockley wow
20:39 tlockley thats a little overkill
20:39 Seroster Probably from a restaurant
20:40 Seroster But it was pristine white on the inside, looked damn near unused
21:10 Sgt_Lemming http://notalwaysright.com/trust-me-youre-not-a-doctor/13133 <--- lol
21:18 SparkyProjects :D
21:18 MadManMarkAu1 Oh Jesus...
21:19 tlockley lol
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21:34 Seroster lol Sgt_Lemming
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22:06 LemPhone morning all
22:06 tlockley evening LemPhone
22:07 LemPhone sigh
22:07 LemPhone too early to be up on a sunday
22:07 LemPhone much less on a train heading somewhere
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22:07 tlockley oh, its still staturdauy here
22:07 LemPhone .t +10
22:07 BotSteve Sun, 21 Aug 2011 08:07:47 +10
22:07 LemPhone ^me
22:08 tlockley .t -5
22:08 BotSteve Sat, 20 Aug 2011 17:08:03 -5
22:08 * LemPhone nods
22:08 LemPhone been up since 6:30
22:09 LemPhone my housemate came home last night fairly tipsy and we talked till nearly 3am
22:09 LemPhone totally didn't mean to but was having a really amusing convo with him
22:12 LemPhone anything fun happening in your area tonight tlockey?
22:13 tlockley might be out drinking with some buds
22:13 Seroster Woohoo
22:14 Seroster g
22:14 LemPhone heh
22:14 LemPhone fun
22:14 Seroster Three 15amp 250v (24vdc) relays, plus a 24v transformer, a capacitor and 4 diodes, I love microwave ovens
22:15 LemPhone heh
22:15 LemPhone nice
22:15 Seroster ffffff....
22:16 LemPhone ...?
22:16 Seroster But remember that transformers are hard and heavy
22:16 LemPhone yeah
22:16 Seroster Damn that hurt. xD
22:17 Seroster brb
22:17 LemPhone dropped it on your foot?
22:22 eadthem cree
22:22 eadthem o nvm  i was scrolled up
22:23 LemPhone make awesome LED's
22:23 * LemPhone has about 1/2 dozen cree XR-E's in various things
22:23 tlockley cree XR-E?
22:24 LemPhone very high power LED
22:24 LemPhone nearly 100 lumens per watt as well
22:24 tlockley single cells?
22:24 LemPhone and they run upto 5W for some of them
22:24 LemPhone ...?
22:25 LemPhone single emitter
22:25 tlockley yah
22:25 tlockley sorry, used to theatrical LED setups
22:25 LemPhone heh
22:25 MadManMarkAu1 http://notalwaysright.com/honest-heisters/12836
22:25 MadManMarkAu1 hehe
22:26 LemPhone seriously, why would you answer the phone?
22:27 Seroster LemPhone, Yes I did, but I got away with my foot still attatched to my body
22:27 LemPhone fun fun
22:28 Seroster This was an extraordinarily huge oven, and the MOT is quite a lot larger than a regular one
22:28 LemPhone nice
22:28 LemPhone we pulled apart an endoscope sanitization unit last night :-P
22:28 LemPhone got some interesting bits from that
22:30 Seroster whoa
22:30 Seroster Endoscope sanitization?
22:30 * LemPhone nods
22:30 Seroster Is that an autoclave?
22:30 LemPhone more equipment being tossed from a hospital near my place
22:31 LemPhone has a pneumatics setup in it
22:31 LemPhone only 60PSI rated airtank though :-(
22:31 Seroster Dude, stay away from the blue bags.
22:31 LemPhone lol
22:31 LemPhone as I said last time
22:32 LemPhone this is at a construction site next to the hospital
22:32 Seroster Still, narly shit can be found in dumpsters
22:32 LemPhone old building they are tearing down/stripping out
22:32 LemPhone all the stuff is equipment that is being gotten rid of
22:32 Seroster Oh, this is a nice cap
22:32 Seroster 1uf
22:33 LemPhone there is NO medical waste amongst it at all
22:33 LemPhone nice
22:33 LemPhone what voltage? 2.5Kv?
22:33 Seroster It says "NO     PCB"
22:33 Seroster Wich could mean two things
22:33 Seroster 1, It's made in Norway, and contains PCBs,  or 2, It got no pcbs inside.
22:34 LemPhone heh
22:34 pegasus anyone got a mic and a desire to be the voice of a game?
22:34 tlockley eh?
22:35 Seroster It's a generic 2.1kv lytic microwave cap, and one uf is acceptable for most ovens
22:35 pegasus i need someone to record a couple clips so i can shove them into this thing and call it complete
22:35 LemPhone I can in about 12 hours if it helps pegasus
22:35 Seroster This is the most european oven I've ever seen. Capacitor made in italy, transformer made in the uk, Magnetron from france, motor from germany... =P
22:36 pegasus lem: this game has been without sound for a long long time, i think i can wait
22:36 LemPhone heh
22:36 Seroster SparkyProjects, You didnt happen to work for TABUCHI, making transformers?
22:37 SparkyProjects Nope, it was Wardray, a uk company
22:37 pegasus i just need about a dozen short clips that are essentially "ow!" "ouch!" and variants thereof. like you got poked in the eye.
22:37 LemPhone ...
22:37 LemPhone www.freesounds.org <--- pegasus
22:37 pegasus but with less profanity
22:37 Seroster SparkyProjects, The mot I got is made by tabuchi, UK. =P
22:37 pegasus yeah, freesounds.org has lots of clips, but honestly, i don't like them much
22:38 LemPhone kk
22:38 pegasus plus, you only get one or maybe two by the same voice actor
22:38 SparkyProjects Mot's weren't inveneted when i worked for Wardray, i was 15 - 16 :P
22:38 LemPhone I've used them lots for different theatre shows I've worked on
22:38 LemPhone kk
22:38 LemPhone how old are you now sparky?
22:39 SparkyProjects 56
22:39 LemPhone kk
22:39 LemPhone they were invented, just not common :-P
22:40 * pegasus tinkers
22:42 * LemPhone hands pegasus the air handling board from an endoscope sanitizer
22:43 Seroster SparkyProjects, you forgot the zeros =P
22:43 LemPhone lol
22:44 SparkyProjects OK Seroster, you win, I'm the Timelord :P
22:44 LemPhone lol
22:45 Seroster But I am not surprised mots werent invented when you were young. After all you need electricity to be able to transform it. =P
22:46 LemPhone lol
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23:01 SparkyProjects With age comes wisdom, Seroster is just a child :P
23:01 SparkyProjects :D
23:01 Seroster Took you some time to retaliate, eh?
23:01 Seroster I suppose it's hard for you elder guys to catch up with technology, like... Typewriters? ;P
23:01 SparkyProjects went to cook food :P
23:02 Seroster Ah
23:05 SparkyProjects You young people have it easy with windows, try using something like BBC basic or Sinclair basic :P
23:07 Seroster I could reply, but I love you far to much to. =P
23:09 MadManMarkAu1 RARG!
23:09 MadManMarkAu1 That's it! I'm done trying to explain why e=mc2 is only partially correct
23:10 Seroster xD
23:10 * MadManMarkAu1 rages at "pseudo-intellectuals" on IRC
23:10 Seroster Lol
23:10 Seroster Try me? =P
23:10 MadManMarkAu1 I'm trying to explain how E=mc^2 only describes matter at rest, not matter that has a velocity > 0
23:11 Seroster ....Yes?
23:11 MadManMarkAu1 The correct formula is E^2=m^2c^4+p^2c^2
23:11 Seroster Yeah, sure
23:11 MadManMarkAu1 Energy of the mass plus energy of the velocity
23:11 Seroster If the matter got momentum there is more energy in it.
23:12 MadManMarkAu1 Thankyou :D
23:12 * MadManMarkAu1 veels vindicated
23:12 MadManMarkAu1 *feels
23:12 Seroster ...Is that so damn hard to grasp? =P
23:12 MadManMarkAu1 For some, apparently
23:12 Seroster The energy within a bowling ball falling on your toes is greater than the energy of the same bowling ball resting on your foot. If he doesnt believe it he's free to try it xD
23:13 SparkyProjects Easiest way to explain
23:13 SparkyProjects "If i put my fist next to your head, it has mass, but no energy, but if i swing it at your head, it has mass and velocity, now work that out"
23:13 MadManMarkAu1 Haha
23:14 Seroster But since there is a freaking LOT of energy in the mass the velocity should be almost nothing in comparison, right?
23:15 MadManMarkAu1 It's smaller, yeah, but velicities can get pretty large themselves
23:29 tlockley CaptainBoden: ping
23:31 Seroster erm
23:48 eadthem jimmy jons screwed up
23:48 tlockley oh
23:48 eadthem they smeared it with mayo  took the bread out  and barely put any filling in it
23:49 tlockley takeout?
23:49 Av_Nekoroms http://nekoroms.1g.fi/kuvat/Kuvausmatkat/Geosuunnistus+vol1/
23:49 Av_Nekoroms humdidumddi
23:49 Av_Nekoroms time to sleep npw
23:50 Av_Nekoroms *now
23:51 eadthem online order   delivery
23:52 eadthem called em to have the tip removed from the recept and  before i could ask they apoligised   said they wer training a new staff rotation and wer sending out another sandwitch
23:52 Seroster Botsteve, cookie time? Heads and I do it
23:52 Seroster .coin
23:52 BotSteve Tails!
23:52 Seroster ... I don't like you anymore, BotSteve .
23:52 Seroster And hi there BatSteve
23:53 tlockley well I am glad they were happy to replace it
23:54 tlockley hey BatSteve

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