Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-08-22

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00:05 speedrunnerG55 Its so quiet :/
00:07 * masterofmonks rund around the channel screaming while on fire.
00:08 speedrunnerG55 Oh my
00:08 * speedrunnerG55 throws a fireretardent blanket at MoM
00:10 * masterofmonks explodes.
00:10 * SparkyProjects sweeps up mess
00:10 * speedrunnerG55 runs away from the shapnel
00:11 * speedrunnerG55 helps SparkyProjects
00:12 * The_Necromancer reassembles and resurrects.
00:14 speedrunnerG55 %_%
00:17 eadthem who can identify the letter pointed to by the red arrow
00:17 eadthem http://media.onsugar.com/files/2010/05/19/5/192/1922507/01a6aea7e51e24dc_full-bleed-1273768532.preview.jpg
00:17 eadthem the letter and the languige its from
00:23 speedrunnerG55 Thats a cool looking f
00:23 speedrunnerG55 Idk
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00:26 eadthem ile give it 10 min  im shure alot of pepole in here have seen it before   but probably didnt think much of it
00:27 Katemonster whowhat?
00:27 BotSteve Katemonster: I have the following messages for you:
00:27 BotSteve At 21 Aug 01:14Z, BatSteve asked me to ask Katemonster why my parachute autodeployed in KSP.  I wanted to pop it myself.
00:28 Katemonster uuuuuuuuuuuuh
00:28 masterofmonks Because it malfunctioned.
00:29 speedrunnerG55 Hi Katemonster
00:29 Katemonster botsteve: tell batsteve if it was already triggered while in space either accidentally or because it was in the wrong triggering stage, it'll automatically pop when you get back in the atmosphere.
00:29 BotSteve Katemonster: I'll pass that on when batsteve is around.
00:29 Katemonster hi speed
00:30 speedrunnerG55 Ahhh. Leftovers :3
00:30 * Katemonster couldn't figure out why the radio wasn't working
00:31 * Katemonster should turn on the speakers
00:34 * Katemonster bites exor674
00:34 * exor674 bites Katemonster
00:34 Katemonster ohai.
00:34 Obtuse_ nom nom nom
00:34 Obtuse_ yellow
00:36 Katemonster ...
00:36 Katemonster hi obtusebot.  what are you eating?
00:37 Katemonster oh man
00:37 Katemonster that was trippy
00:38 Katemonster something came on the radio and it was one of those things where out of nowhere the first note immediately brought up a different song in my head.
00:39 Obtuse_ i wasn't eating, but you guys bit each other.
00:40 Obtuse_ I did have some Crack Fries over at the Hopcat
00:40 Obtuse_ and some beer.
00:40 Obtuse_ beer makes me happy
00:40 Obtuse_ er, i mean happier. I'm typically always happy
00:41 Katemonster us biting eachother has nothing to do with consumption of food.  and we are not asian.
00:41 speedrunnerG55 O_o
00:41 Katemonster :p
00:42 speedrunnerG55 Hi exor674
00:42 * speedrunnerG55 pokes Katemonster
00:42 * Katemonster breaks speed's finger
00:42 speedrunnerG55 D:
00:42 speedrunnerG55 OUCH
00:42 Katemonster your fault.
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00:43 * speedrunnerG55 runs to the nurse
00:43 masterofmonks Looks like it will have to be amputated atht he elbow.
00:44 speedrunnerG55 O_o
00:44 Katemonster making bodily contact with me without permission shows a lack of self-preservation.
00:44 speedrunnerG55 Ok
00:59 Katemonster awesome.  this is how bored i am. http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2661/boredcode.png
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01:00 Katemonster hi toast
01:00 AgCNO6 Hi Katemonster
01:01 speedrunnerG55 Nice Katemonster
01:01 * AgCNO6 doesn't make bodily contact with Katemonster because of the fear of getting an amputated arm
01:02 speedrunnerG55 AgCNO6: Do i know you?
01:02 Katemonster smart, toast.
01:02 Toastdude You always forget that it's me...
01:03 Toastdude Thanks Kate
01:03 speedrunnerG55 Sorry Toastdude
01:03 Toastdude Lol, thats okay Speed, I don't really care :P
01:05 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1ZAXYyxd08
01:06 Katemonster ha
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01:20 masterofmonks Define Irony:
01:23 injektion Everytime I hear about nirvana I am reminded of them ripping off this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cvIPqMjORE
01:23 SparkyProjects Something made of iron is irony :P
01:25 masterofmonks A movie industry that moved to hollywood to escape lawsuits from Edison for violating his patents, and in retaliation Edison pirated movies to drive down sales, and now you have the movie industry filing suits against users for pirating their movies.
01:28 SparkyProjects Most sales of movies are saidto be to people who rip the movie
01:28 SparkyProjects Maybe pirating should be encouraged, that way sales of the movies would go up :D
01:29 injektion I want someone to leak how to enrich uranium with lasers because I am interested in how it all works
01:29 CaptainNiobe *ywarns* morning everyone :)
01:29 CaptainNiobe yawns*
01:30 masterofmonks Leak?
01:30 CaptainNiobe ?
01:30 masterofmonks Go to college and study physics.
01:31 CaptainNiobe not when i just woke up :P :D
01:31 injektion masterofmonks, I am talking about the top secret SILEX process
01:33 injektion Which apparently is classified :|
01:36 injektion night all
01:45 Katemonster hi captainniobe
01:46 CaptainNiobe hey katemonster, how are you?
01:46 Katemonster awake
01:46 Katemonster i think
01:46 CaptainNiobe lol... no zombism this time? :D
01:49 Katemonster no
01:52 Katemonster i want a computer microfilm printer.
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01:54 egrsteve hello
01:55 Katemonster hi stevo
01:55 egrsteve hello
01:56 egrsteve seems quite in here
01:56 masterofmonks Too quiet...
01:58 dr_jkl .
01:58 BotSteve dr_jkl: I have the following messages for you:
01:58 BotSteve At 12 Aug 03:33Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell dr_jkl that the website is having issues re: subforums.  told so by eadthem
01:58 BotSteve At 13 Aug 00:27Z, lwq1996 asked me to tell dr_jkl that the website is down again
01:58 dr_jkl jesus
01:58 dr_jkl i know people
01:59 Katemonster man.... microfilm equipment is expensive.
02:01 Toastdude Hi egrsteve
02:01 Toastdude Hi dr_jkl
02:01 egrsteve hello toastdude
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02:12 speedrunnerG55 :)
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02:16 eadthem dr_jkl subpages on the forums and other things wer causing connectiosn to die
02:16 eadthem but it hasnt had a issue in a while as far as ive noticed
02:16 eadthem someone the other night however did have some issues for about 10 min
02:17 tlockley that was me...
02:17 tlockley i think
02:17 eadthem speedrunnerG55 its klingon R
02:17 eadthem ya
02:17 speedrunnerG55 ?
02:17 tlockley and it was just general connection refusal
02:17 tlockley i wasnt even logged in at the time
02:19 eadthem http://media.onsugar.com/files/2010/05/19/5/192/1922507/01a6aea7e51e24dc_full-bleed-1273768532.preview.jpg
02:20 eadthem klingon r
02:20 speedrunnerG55 ok
02:20 eadthem in the old wikipedia logo
02:20 speedrunnerG55 ty
02:20 eadthem ya srry i forgot about it
02:21 speedrunnerG55 wow klingon ?!
02:22 LeadHead .last seen
02:22 LeadHead how does that work again
02:22 tlockley .seen
02:22 BotSteve AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'lower' (file "/home/steve/src/hg/tgg/hg-botsteve/modules/seen.py", line 42, in f_seen)
02:22 LeadHead ..seen LeadHead
02:22 LeadHead damnit
02:22 tlockley heh i brokeit
02:22 LeadHead .seen LeadHead
02:22 BotSteve LeadHead: I last saw leadhead 0.00 hours ago at 2011-08-22 02:22:42 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:22:44 UTC
02:22 speedrunnerG55 .seen |red|
02:22 BotSteve speedrunnerG55: I last saw |red| 628.99 hours ago at 2011-07-26 21:23:24 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:22:49 UTC
02:22 SparkyProjects Speed, i believe Klingo can be seleted in google preferences, and maybe even in google translate
02:23 SparkyProjects Klingon*
02:23 speedrunnerG55 o_o
02:23 LeadHead google translate can do Pig Latin
02:23 LeadHead as well
02:23 LeadHead They may even still have Elmur Fudd
02:23 LeadHead .seen Cprossu
02:23 BotSteve LeadHead: I last saw cprossu 8.29 hours ago at 2011-08-21 18:06:22 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:23:45 UTC
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02:24 speedrunnerG55 sspppaarrrkkkyyyyy
02:25 speedrunnerG55 how can i change the login screen in linux?
02:25 speedrunnerG55 specifically ubuntu,
02:37 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Bill Jones on Japan devistated by 8.9 Magnitude quake and associated Tsunami
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02:58 tlockley hey steve
02:58 egrsteve_ hello
02:58 tlockley what are you up to this evening?
02:59 egrsteve_ not too much at the moment
03:17 trekkiemonster HELLO KATEMONSTER
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03:20 trekkiemonster oh fine
03:20 BatSteve BotSteve, my messages?
03:20 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
03:20 BotSteve At 21 Aug 23:13Z, Seroster asked me to tell BatSteve Gnight. ARRRGH!
03:20 BotSteve At 00:29Z, Katemonster asked me to tell BatSteve if it was already triggered while in space either accidentally or because it was in the wrong triggering stage, it'll automatically pop when you get back in the atmosphere.
03:21 BatSteve Aha
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03:26 Toastdude BatSteve: !
03:26 BatSteve Toastdude!
03:28 Toastdude What's up?!
03:29 BatSteve Right now?  Zero.  Reading about an airshow accident
03:29 BatSteve ):
03:30 Toastdude The small group of private pilots, one of which crashed while trying to land?
03:31 BatSteve Negative, a wingwalker who fell while trying to transition from a biplane to a helicopter
03:32 Toastdude Wow... How terrible :(
03:32 BatSteve yeah
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03:38 Katemonster batsteve
03:39 BatSteve katemonster
03:39 Katemonster sup
03:39 BatSteve I wanted to ask you if you and trekkiemonster were related
03:39 Katemonster lol, no.
03:39 BatSteve But you're both monsters....
03:39 Katemonster i will stab you.
03:39 Katemonster racist asshole
03:40 BatSteve Hey, you're a little bit racist too
03:40 Katemonster fun fact: before v0.9 you could pop the parachute in space.  and it still invoked drag.
03:40 Katemonster lol
03:40 BatSteve Hey that's pretty cool
03:40 Katemonster why now, after all this time, you decided to bring up Ave. Q?
03:41 BatSteve because after all this time, I just made the connection
03:41 Katemonster LMAO
03:41 Katemonster there actually isn't supposed to be a connection.  i was using that handle a loooooong time before i'd heard of Avenue Q
03:43 Toastdude Horray for v0.9
03:44 Katemonster i can't play 0.9
03:44 BatSteve Also, just before I went to bed, I achieved one full and complete orbit around the planet
03:44 Katemonster i have to play 8.5 cause .9 lags too bad on my machine
03:44 Katemonster nice
03:44 Katemonster here's the finished skin pack of the stock parts http://kerbalspaceprogram.com/forum/index.php?topic=2031.0
03:46 Katemonster and i got permission to do this one next: http://kerbalspaceprogram.com/forum/index.php?topic=1172.0
03:49 BatSteve ooooh neat!
03:50 Toastdude That's awesome Katemonster :D
03:51 Katemonster thanks
03:52 Toastdude About to play 0.9
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03:55 * wannabe1987 is home
03:55 wannabe1987 lw
03:55 wannabe1987 speedrunnerG55
03:55 wannabe1987 Toastdude
03:55 BatSteve hi kelly
03:56 wannabe1987 hi BatSteve
03:56 wannabe1987 i survived my trip to TC and back :D
03:56 BatSteve Congrats!
03:56 wannabe1987 i also went river kayaking for the first time
03:56 BatSteve How did you like it?
03:56 wannabe1987 my shoulders hurt now
03:56 Toastdude WANNABE1987:!!!
03:56 wannabe1987 TOASTDUDE
03:56 wannabe1987 hi :)
03:56 Toastdude Welcome back!
03:57 wannabe1987 i'll be on today, but i won't be on line for more than 1/2 hour/day for the next 2-3 weeks or so...
03:57 wannabe1987 s
03:57 Toastdude Hi
03:57 wannabe1987 sorry
03:57 Toastdude Aw....
03:57 wannabe1987 hows IL
03:57 Toastdude Good, school tomorrow...
03:57 wannabe1987 sorry, i have to become less dependant on the interwebs and find a job and stuff...
03:57 Toastdude I know...
03:58 BatSteve That's a good thing though
03:58 BatSteve Soon you'll have disposable income!
03:58 Toastdude How's MI?
03:58 wannabe1987 BatSteve o.O
03:58 wannabe1987 mi is alive
03:58 wannabe1987 we  went nice and fast the way home
03:59 wannabe1987 this idiot in a bmw with bikes on top cut us off and we almost ran into him...a little while later we heard him being called on the police scanner
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04:04 wannabe1987 o.O
04:04 BatSteve Bad timing wannabe, I've gotta get to bed.  Up in 6 hours, at work in 7.5
04:05 BatSteve g'night all
04:05 wannabe1987 night...
04:05 Toastdude Night BatSteve-Away
04:05 BatSteve-Away night toast
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04:25 Toastdude wb speed
04:26 Toastdude Night whoever is still here
04:27 wannabe1987 night
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04:53 tonsofpcs g'nite
04:55 wannabe1987 hey tonsofpcs
04:55 wannabe1987 night
04:56 * tonsofpcs has too much sunburn
05:12 Cookingmonster botsteve: tell batsteve something about pellet rifles.
05:12 BotSteve Cookingmonster: I'll pass that on when batsteve is around.
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05:27 BotSteve Seroster's here.  Hide yo' kids.  Hide yo' wife.
05:27 wannabe1987 ...
05:28 wannabe1987 Seroster why do you have +o?
05:28 Seroster Becaue I preformed vast ammounts of fellatio
05:28 wannabe1987 i was only gone 2-3 days...how does so much stuff happen?!
05:28 wannabe1987 :P
05:28 wannabe1987 i'll be gone for 2-3 weeks....
05:28 wannabe1987 exor674
05:29 * exor674 licks wannabe1987
05:29 wannabe1987 i came back to say goodbye, i won't be on much
05:29 Seroster Heh
05:29 Seroster When you come back dinosaours will be roaming the room
05:29 wannabe1987 ok
05:30 * exor674 hugs wannabe1987 <3
05:30 wannabe1987 hi
05:31 wannabe1987 want hug from drew-boy, not dre-girl, but ok
05:31 * exor674 uses her evil mental powers to make drew hug wannabe1987!
05:32 Cprossu o_O
05:32 wannabe1987 1) he's asleep 2) we're not dating so he doesn't have to 3) see number 2.  4) don't say "I'm sorry" or give pity.  i don't want it.  it only makes me wallow in self-pity and i go into a depressive spiral
05:32 wannabe1987 hi Cprossu
05:32 Cprossu what's new wannabe1987?
05:32 wannabe1987 .........
05:33 wannabe1987 read number 2
05:34 Cprossu oooooooooh kayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
05:34 * Cprossu hides in a box.
05:35 wannabe1987 what?  i just typed it out
05:35 wannabe1987 i went on a weekend away with him and his family...
05:36 Cprossu oh I was looking at "2) we're not dating so he doesn't have to" when you said to "read number 2"
05:36 wannabe1987 ah
05:37 Seroster So why ye be gone for 3 days wannabe?
05:37 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Cprossu on Japan devistated by 8.9 Magnitude quake and associated Tsunami.....SitkaGrown on Automotive HHO Generator
05:37 wannabe1987 i was on vacation?
05:38 Seroster Right.
05:38 Seroster And the coming weeks?
05:44 wannabe1987 life change?
05:44 Seroster Ah
05:45 Seroster ...Of what kind?
05:45 wannabe1987 i'll slowly come back to the internet...but i'm addicted and need to quit almost cold turkey (enough time to check facebook, texts, and emails)
05:47 Seroster ...How come no matter how long you iron your underwear they are still damp? -.-
05:48 wannabe1987 moist heat is used for ironing?
05:48 wannabe1987 and why do you iron underwear
05:48 wannabe1987 weirdo
05:48 Seroster I iron it because it's wet.
05:48 Seroster And it's wet because I washed it.
05:48 wannabe1987 stick it in a dryer?
05:48 Seroster I kind of like clean underwear
05:48 Thermoelectric Microwave it.
05:49 Seroster Yeah, I have a dryer in my 1room apartment.
05:49 wannabe1987 thats good you clarified why it was wet...
05:49 wannabe1987 use the dryer?
05:49 wannabe1987 stick it in the sun...
05:49 Seroster Thermoelectric, I microwaved my underwear in my old microwave oven
05:49 Seroster Worked GREAT until it caught firel
05:49 wannabe1987 ...lol
05:49 Thermoelectric Just remove the oxygen from it, dump some nitrogen in it or something, then it won't. :P
05:50 Seroster Great idea there xD
05:50 Seroster I wont mind my tshirt being damp
05:50 Seroster Its raining outside anywah
05:50 wannabe1987 i'm going to bed.  i got 5 hours of sleep last night.  night dre ( exor674)
05:50 exor674 sleep wellll
05:51 Seroster cya wannabe
05:54 Cprossu night wannabe1987
05:54 wannabe1987 night guys
06:01 Seroster Fuck im late.
06:01 Seroster Cya
06:38 dr_jkl Katemonster:  o.o
06:38 Katemonster hi
06:39 Katemonster what's wrong?
07:23 Katemonster dr_jkl, what?
07:58 * exor674 hugs dr_jkl <3
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08:30 LemPhone evening all
08:39 Katemonster hi lem
08:39 LemPhone lo, how's it going?
08:42 LemPhone sigh, I want my new phone already
08:42 LemPhone gonna take me a few more weeks yet
08:45 LemPhone considering it has nearly twice the screen res of this one
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09:16 Sgt_Lemming home now
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11:43 Hydroelectric Long time since I've been on IRC.
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12:28 yNos|away Hello Everyone!
12:39 tonsofpcs hi
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13:23 yNos I think i might have some books to donate to the computer lab..
13:23 yNos some old, some not so
13:24 yNos they are taking our desks away and forcing out floor to "go mobile" - so all of us tha have books are putting them in "the library" dups go somewhere else.
13:27 Sgt_Lemming applying for grants sucks the big one
13:29 SparkyProjects Lemming, i think as soon as you metion 'hacker' to the authorities, they link that with people like lulzsec etc
13:30 Sgt_Lemming SparkyProjects, believe me I know that
13:30 Sgt_Lemming but that is part of what our grant application will cover
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14:25 tonsofpcs just link to the MIT hacking description
14:28 Seroster eh
14:28 Sgt_Lemming night all, off too bed
14:28 Sgt_Lemming tonsofpcs, remind me in a couple of days and I will link you to the piece I wrote on it
14:28 Sgt_Lemming anyways, night
14:28 Seroster cya stralian
14:33 dr_jkl asdf
14:33 tonsofpcs share the vote link on facebook
14:34 * tonsofpcs just did (tgg page just posted it)
14:34 yNos I wonder if anyone in the area has an in with AMI here in grand rapids.. http://www.amientertainment.com/
14:35 Seroster Whats the count atm?
14:35 yNos i see their craigslist job posting for someone with HA unix/linux experience
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14:52 yNos Seroster: what do you mean? i think i missed something.
14:53 Seroster The site where you are supposed to vote on tgg
14:53 Seroster or 2 other
14:53 Seroster So.... What's the score?
14:54 yNos http://youtube-global.blogspot.com/2011/08/augusts-on-rise-nominees.html
14:54 yNos 7%
14:55 Seroster ......That stamp chick got 28?
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15:13 yNos suck
15:16 tlockley eh?
15:20 tonsofpcs yNos: I saw hostgator ads looking for people who 'know linux?' on billboards around philly...  they're in houston so it might be a telecommute job...
15:20 yNos hmm
15:21 yNos call me oldschool... but i'd rather have a place to go away from home.
15:21 yNos at least to get away from tracey's "i see you so you must not be working"
15:22 tonsofpcs they don't have coffee shops?
15:22 yNos then i spend a shitload on coffee when i shouldnt
15:22 tonsofpcs it's possible taht they're just recruiting for people to move (or start a new office), of course
15:22 tonsofpcs at least the coffee is good! :-p
15:22 yNos i wonder if there is an open desk at TGG i could "rent"
15:23 tonsofpcs heh
15:24 tlockley hey yNos, do you know of anyone hiring in your/ the GR area?
15:24 yNos What are you looking for?
15:24 tonsofpcs that may cause tax complications for tgg (not sure, but we have to pay tax on all of our lessable space -- space that we do not occupy which we place available for lease -- regardless of occupation status)
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15:25 tlockley just about anything. I am a fairly good linux sysadmin, web dev (backends), audio engineering
15:25 yNos ok.. donation for office space..
15:25 tlockley I unfortunately do not have a degree
15:25 tlockley but i do have experience
15:25 tonsofpcs tlockley: you have 98 degrees!  A lot more if you use Rankine!
15:25 yNos any work experience with unix/linux/clusters/high availability/loadbalancing?
15:26 tlockley i have done alot of work with unix/linux though i havent had much with working on HA or loadbalancing because of a lack of need
15:26 tlockley that is not to say i cant or wont learn it
15:27 tlockley most of the work i do now is general trouble shooting or the occasional small biz server/network setup
15:27 tlockley I can also do just about any type of networking except fiber or 10GigE
15:27 yNos which inixes?
15:27 yNos have you done any vlanning?
15:27 tlockley all flavors of bsd, debian, red hat based
15:27 yNos **unixes
15:27 tlockley some arch
15:28 tlockley once again, i havent had the demand for vlaning, but I have been looking into doing it for my networked audio system
15:29 tlockley oh and a little gentoo
15:30 yNos i havent worked at a company who didnt vlan and/or vlan trunk directly to a large server..
15:30 tlockley ok, well i guess that is something i sould go and learn at some point soon
15:30 yNos Because of service agreements, most places go with a linux that has some sort of support contract
15:31 tlockley so like RHEL or Cent?
15:31 yNos redhat is a biggie here at steelcase.
15:32 yNos the only allowed OSs in production are Windows 2008, HP-UX and RHEL
15:32 tlockley well i havent ever had a chance to use HP-UX but i assume it is atleast semi-structured like most other *nixs
15:33 yNos i have an openbsd load balancer "appliance" that i built for an application..
15:33 yNos it is structured like an 80's bsd
15:33 tlockley nifty
15:33 yNos not really
15:33 yNos it sucks
15:33 yNos but solaris/hp-ux/AIX are the main commercial unices out there.
15:34 yNos AIX is soo different - i am not sure how it is a unix.
15:34 tlockley huh
15:34 * tonsofpcs uses VLANs as a routing technique [in a switch that supports VLANing but has no routing capabilities] :)
15:34 * yNos <3s vlans
15:35 tlockley huh, i guess I just never was able to find good docs on vlans before
15:35 tonsofpcs everything on the switch is on the same network, but I needed to control traffic
15:35 tonsofpcs I really should document it one of these days
15:36 tlockley do you know of a good place to learn about VLANs?
15:36 tonsofpcs TGG!
15:36 yNos i am not sure i would want someone who doesnt know how vlans are setup trying to figure out how vlans work on a production system..
15:36 yNos YES
15:36 yNos we have a few systems setup for VLANS
15:36 yNos at TGG
15:37 tonsofpcs there's a bunch of network gear in the corner in the cafe (at least, there was last I was there)
15:37 yNos if you roll in some day i will show you how it works.
15:37 tlockley I would never muck about in a production env without knowing wht i am dooing
15:37 yNos that was more of pointing at tonsofpcs's vlan config
15:37 yNos vlans are actually really simple.
15:37 tonsofpcs tlockley: I would never fail to muck about in a 'production' environment just because I wasn't sure of what I was doing.
15:37 yNos its just how your target OS implements them
15:38 tlockley i do know assigning them is simple, its things like trunking and whatnot that i sont really understand
15:38 tonsofpcs yea, the VLAN implementation on just the v2 and v3s of the netgear GS series switches are completely different
15:38 yNos its the same in cisco land.. for the most part.
15:39 yNos my first experience with them was between 3 openbsd boxes on a cheap dumb switch.
15:39 tonsofpcs right, these are the same exact switches with a software revision difference.
15:40 yNos just leave vlan1 as an admin vlan
15:40 yNos vlan1 is majukal
15:40 tlockley well i guess i need to get the money together to fly down at some point
15:40 tonsofpcs I work on systems that are "Highly Available" and require maximum uptime.  If something could cause them to go down, I'm doing my best to fix it -- odds of untouched malfunction are weighed against odds of me screwing it up.  If the former outweighs the latter, I go for it.
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15:41 angy hi there
15:41 yNos hiya
15:41 tlockley hey
15:41 yNos time to go get some lunch
15:41 yNos be back in a bit.
15:41 tlockley cya
15:41 tonsofpcs tlockley: or you could just get a bunch of vlan gear and play yourself
15:42 tlockley i do have some i just need time
15:42 tonsofpcs just round up all the spare network gear and computers on the island ;)
15:42 tlockley almost every piece of gear i need
15:42 tlockley *have
15:42 tlockley supports vlans
15:42 tlockley or has l2 route support
15:44 tlockley i should see if my netgear GS still works
15:45 tonsofpcs yNos's systems likely have more contractual requirements for availability, but we provide a 24/7 service that needs to stay available throughout...
15:45 dr_jkl shiiiiit.
15:45 tonsofpcs My current project involves shutting everything down and staying 'available'
15:45 tonsofpcs dr_jkl: ?
15:46 dr_jkl fucking hurricane is intensifying
15:46 dr_jkl (this is bad)
15:47 dr_jkl but it seems to be tracking more east
15:47 dr_jkl (this is good)
15:47 dr_jkl looks like we're going to be spared the brunt of this one.
15:47 angy play safe!
15:47 dr_jkl FUCKING MERDE
15:47 dr_jkl >_<
15:48 dr_jkl i am supposed to go to a Very Adult Function this weekend and likely won't because of the storm
15:48 tonsofpcs hmm... I was just at a friend's wedding, he's on the SC shore for his honeymoon.....
15:54 dr_jkl tonsofpcs: call your friend and tell him to get the fuck out of there :)
15:54 dr_jkl category 3+ storms are nothing to take lightly, he might end up getting stuck there for quite longer than he likes
15:56 tonsofpcs well, he has time to watch the storm develop and see which way it turns.
16:03 angy I should have come, to ditch some more work ;)
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16:25 Rahlon Hiya guys.
16:31 tlockley hey Rahlon
16:38 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Sparky Projects on New Random Junk Thread
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16:59 yNos heyall
16:59 yNos i <3 indian food
17:20 tlockley hey yNos
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17:24 yNos ohman.. i forgot about our team meating.
17:24 tlockley_ oops
17:33 tonsofpcs yNos: me too.  Bring me some?
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18:04 speedrunnerG55 Hi
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18:33 tlockley hey yNos you free?
18:38 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Bill Jones on BarCamp Grand Rapids
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19:00 Seroster God damn that was a bad powernap.
19:11 yNos back..
19:11 yNos what a waste of time..
19:11 yNos tlockley: whats up?
19:13 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4JhruinbWc&amp;NR=1   "Man, a tutorial video made 80 years ago makes more sense than the latest fancy 3D animation stuffs."
19:14 yNos i love that video
19:14 yNos just because of the old bikes.
19:16 tlockley_mobile Oh, and sorry yNos. Just having problems migrating an AD server from 2003 to 2008 R2
19:16 tlockley_mobile Ran into some dns issues
19:16 yNos sorry man, i dont really know much about windows machines.
19:16 tlockley_mobile Mostly fixed for now
19:17 yNos I am a big fan of bind.
19:17 yNos it ist as easey
19:17 yNos **isnt as easy
19:17 Seroster Damn, yNos. That vid even makes SENSE
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19:18 tlockley_mobile Yah, me too. Turns out that AD just eats it if dns is configured wrong
19:18 yNos most things do..
19:18 yNos you dont want your app /whatever to have IPs hardcoded
19:21 tlockley_mobile Well the guy in here last made a right mess of it all anyways
19:24 yNos lack of documentation makes life suck when people move.
19:24 yNos i like to think that there is a reason that someone did something the way they did it. i give them the benifit of the doubt in that they knew more or had a different reason for why they did what they did.
19:25 yNos or it is a mgmt horse.
19:25 yNos horse built by mgmt
19:25 yNos i forget the phrase.
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19:38 yNos http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/jguhj/whats_the_most_enraging_thing_a_computer/
19:38 * yNos facedesk
19:44 yNos time to ride home
19:44 yNos g'night everyone..
19:48 Cprossu night? lol
19:49 Cprossu tlockley_mobile I feel your pain. AD sucks. =P
19:49 tlockley_mobile I just wanna finish this shit
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19:50 Cprossu you can never truely wash your hands of an AD system
19:50 tlockley i have been trying all frigging day to migrate from a 2003 standard AD server to 2008R2
19:51 Cprossu I had to do win2k to '08r2 once
19:51 tlockley and EVERYTHING is effing broken
19:51 Cprossu never again.
19:51 * tlockley shudders
19:51 Cprossu fucking thing still doesn't work well
19:52 tlockley well now i just need to figure out how to make the 2008 box the PDC
19:53 Cprossu all I know and want to remember is terminal services is all fucked up in '08
19:56 injektion Windows server isn't bad
19:56 tlockley injektion: how do you make a secondary controller the PDC?
19:57 Cprossu Bad: See Windows Server 2011
19:58 injektion I don't think you can
19:58 injektion Unless you want to use a VM
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20:17 Seroster Page 104, "the capacitor"
20:17 Seroster Learning a lot here..... -.-
20:18 Seroster I just want to take a fucking test and get rid of it xD
20:27 injektion I'm still new to anything past 2003 Server
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21:03 Seroster hello tvilling
21:05 Cprossu fuck. got a cold/24 hour flu or something.
21:11 injektion I'm sitting here in a towel drinking vodka and lemonade
21:11 masterofmonks Sounds like the beginning of a certain kind of movie.
21:12 injektion I obviously don't have to work tomorrow
21:13 masterofmonks What has you off?
21:14 injektion It's after peak pool season
21:15 masterofmonks So you are only working 3 days a week?
21:16 injektion I don't know if I will be working this week after today
21:16 masterofmonks Well take this an an opportunity.
21:18 masterofmonks You are in Clayton County?
21:18 injektion Henry
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21:19 injektion I used to live in Clayton Co
21:20 speed_linux hi
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21:21 masterofmonks Are you currently working in Clayton County?
21:21 speedrunnerg55 thats more like it
21:22 injektion masterofmonks, I'm working in rockdale county
21:22 tlockley Cprossu, you around?
21:23 Cprossu sorta
21:23 Cprossu what's up tlockley?
21:23 tlockley got the mumble server working
21:23 Cprossu yay
21:23 tlockley and almost shot a server today
21:23 Cprossu it happens
21:23 tlockley you can get at the mumble server at fortyniner.co.cc
21:23 Cprossu I never carry guns for that reason
21:24 tlockley and to register a username you go to the same domain in a browser
21:33 Seroster Ey SparkyProjects, I just got another vac cleaner
21:34 SparkyProjects Cool, is it the same power as the other ?
21:34 speedrunnerg55 hi SparkyProjects
21:34 SparkyProjects Hi speed :)
21:38 SparkyProjects Looks like fun http://www.wimp.com/slowmo
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21:42 [Python] Hello Botsteve !
21:42 BotSteve Hi [Python]
21:43 Seroster SparkyProjects, we'll find out =)
21:43 Seroster I dont think so
21:43 Seroster Most likely not
21:44 Seroster but if I just keep hoarding them I'll end up with two similar ones after a while, eh.
21:44 Seroster Btw, watching LOTR
21:44 Seroster And I cant enjoy the movie because of shit like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VznlDlNPw4Q&amp;feature=related
21:45 SparkyProjects Only 10 hours ?
21:45 SparkyProjects There's a flash version that goes on forever somehwere
21:45 Seroster Yes... =P
21:46 SparkyProjects yyeah, i think it's the ABS one :P
21:47 Seroster But still, the parodies ruin the movie a bit
21:47 Seroster ESPECIALLY sagan om de bannlysta
21:47 SparkyProjects I actually like the kazoo music in that version :D
21:47 Seroster That doesnt sound like a kazoo
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22:14 SparkyProjects Btw Seroster, don't forget this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIclKW0UAws
22:16 Seroster o
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22:20 Seroster better sound here SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrQVFZx7XX4&amp;feature=related
22:20 Seroster I am actually not a huge fan of lotr. Overrated.
22:21 SparkyProjects That last vid has better sound, but the sync is off
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22:48 speed-mobile Hi
22:50 masterofmonks Gnorp spurgle dink nurple pwagwa.
22:52 Seroster Piece of cheap crap vac cleaner
23:03 speed-mobile .seen wannabe1987
23:03 BotSteve speed-mobile: I last saw wannabe1987 17.16 hours ago at 2011-08-22 05:54:14 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 23:03:47 UTC
23:04 speed-mobile >_>
23:04 SparkyProjects Got it apart yet ?
23:04 SparkyProjects What't the motor like ?, how are the windings connected ?
23:08 Seroster SparkyProjects, generic vac cleaner motor
23:08 Seroster But the windings are aluminium.
23:08 Seroster :c
23:08 SparkyProjects :-/
23:09 Seroster Phase - field - brush - armature - brush - field - neutral. Yay.
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23:09 Seroster Coating aluminium wire with a coppery brown varnish... pft.
23:10 SparkyProjects Cool, you'll be able to rewire, but not able to solder unless you have alusol
23:10 Toastdude Aluminium windings?
23:14 Seroster SparkyProjects, Or I just wire it on
23:14 SparkyProjects Yep
23:15 speed-mobile aluminum?!
23:15 Seroster Yes
23:15 Seroster You know, Al.
23:15 speed-mobile 0_0
23:15 Seroster 13 on the periodic table?
23:15 speed-mobile Thats light
23:15 Seroster Group 13, period 3...
23:15 speed-mobile >_> metal
23:16 Seroster After magnesium... Before silicon...
23:16 Seroster Same group as gallium and beryllium...
23:16 speed-mobile Aluminum + mercury = lol
23:16 Seroster You know, aluminium, mate. =P
23:16 SparkyProjects Aluminium is not uncommon for windings, i have a couple of transformer coils made from aluminium
23:17 Seroster Al got about half the conductivity of copper
23:17 Seroster But like 1/4 of the price
23:17 masterofmonks And aluminum oxide is generally non reactive.
23:17 Seroster So if you are a cheap bastard, don't care about quality or efficiency you can get away with alu windings on a motor.
23:18 masterofmonks Not to be fooled, aluminum is actually a highly reactive metal, it just forms a skin of aluminum oxide on it.
23:18 Seroster Didnt NASA learn the hard way the problems with mercury tilt switches on spacecraft?
23:18 masterofmonks I don't know about that.
23:20 SparkyProjects Seroster, how about transforming your flat like this ? http://www.wimp.com/apartmenttransforms
23:21 masterofmonks Ok, has anyone else heard about thei 13 year old kid ans his "Solar breakthrough"?
23:22 Seroster He got tanned?
23:22 masterofmonks Eh, no.
23:23 masterofmonks His claim is that he got more production from photovoltaic cells by setting them up like a tree.
23:23 Seroster Thats pretty nifty, SparkyProjects
23:23 SparkyProjects http://solar.calfinder.com/blog/news/how-a-child-revolutionized-solar-cell-efficiency/
23:24 masterofmonks Yeah, the problem with this is....
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23:25 Seroster SparkyProjects, I can't change the reactor in my fluorecent tube in my bathroom.
23:25 Seroster I can't change the doorhandles.
23:25 Seroster I am not allowed to install a dishwasher
23:25 masterofmonks Seroster: You can't have a girlfriend?
23:25 Seroster I'm not even allowed to stuff a drafty vent with newspaper
23:25 Seroster So I doubt I can fill my apartment with that kind of shelving
23:26 SparkyProjects The other problem Seroster,, you haven't got the money :P
23:26 SparkyProjects If you had, you probably would be living in a house
23:28 masterofmonks The problem with this kid is that his system assumes that you can't move your panels.
23:28 masterofmonks Also he didn't measure the panels under load.
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23:30 SparkyProjects Most domestic panels in the UK are fixed in place on the roof, no chance of moving them to follow the sun, but the panels work well enough that you can have enough power to sell back to the utility
23:30 masterofmonks Now, that isn't to take away from his idea, but it isn't a "breakthrough"
23:31 Seroster erm
23:31 Seroster SparkyProjects, not even seasonal movement?
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23:31 SparkyProjects Nope
23:32 Seroster Like you get a ladder, undo a bolt, change to "winter" and tigthen the knob again, forgetting about the rig for the coming 3 months?
23:33 SparkyProjects They mount brackets on the south facinf roof, then securely bolt the panel to that, there's no adjustment
23:34 masterofmonks Here in the U.S. a fair number of people have pannel arrays that track the sun through the day.
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23:37 Toastdude Hi Tvilling
23:38 masterofmonks Ah, a Norwegian.
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23:41 Toastdude Hi eadthem
23:43 Seroster Sure looks so, masterofmonks
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23:43 Toastdude Hi Sasha_
23:43 Seroster Tvilling means "twin" in swedish, and probably in norwegian too..
23:43 Seroster It is also the word used for "gemini"
23:43 Sasha_ Oh wow I just freaked out some kid over email because he sent me a pic he took with his iPhone and I was able to pinpoint his exact location...
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23:44 Seroster Wb Tvilling
23:47 Sasha_ BTW, hi Toastdude
23:47 Sasha_ .seen tlockley
23:47 BotSteve Sasha_: I last saw tlockley 2.39 hours ago at 2011-08-22 21:24:08 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 23:47:41 UTC
23:48 Sasha_ Botsteve: tell tlockley that he said hi, and was wondering how far your project is.
23:48 BotSteve Sasha_: I'll pass that on when tlockley is around.
23:48 Toastdude Wow, didn't think that was possible, or do you mean by tracing the e-mail?
23:48 Sasha_ Nah, EXIF data from photo
23:49 Toastdude Wow... That's kinda creepy
23:49 Sasha_ I was able to find his house, then find the car his parents were driving through street view, find out exactly when he took the photo, by how much he compressed it...
23:51 Toastdude D:
23:51 Seroster Arr
23:51 Toastdude Thats cool and creepy at the same time
23:51 Toastdude HHi Seroster
23:51 Seroster Off to the sleeping compartment, cya folks
23:51 Toastdude Bye Seroster
23:51 SparkyProjects G'night
23:51 Seroster O hiii there little boy!
23:51 Seroster Want some candy? =D
23:52 Toastdude -__-
23:52 Toastdude .seen CaptainNiobe
23:52 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw captainniobe 22.10 hours ago at 2011-08-22 01:46:30 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 23:52:38 UTC
23:52 Sasha_ Who's CaptainNiobe ?
23:52 Seroster He's right there ->
23:53 Seroster Sasha_, A woman =O
23:53 Seroster A stralian woman, so it's like 8am there atm
23:53 Sasha_ That accounts for about 50% of the population, thanks for being real accurate ;)
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23:53 Sasha_ oh hai speed_linux
23:53 SparkyProjects CaptainNiobe is a friend i've known for about 6 years :P
23:54 speed_linux hi Sasha_
23:54 Sasha_ Ah… that narrows it down to about 5% :P
23:54 Seroster SparkyProjects, is she hot?
23:54 speed_linux hi chriss- i mean CaptainBoden
23:55 Seroster Anyhow. Cya.
23:55 speed_linux i mean CaptainNiobe
23:55 SparkyProjects Seroster, you'll have to ask her :P
23:55 speed_linux >_>
23:55 Sasha_ Botsteve: tell ca...
23:55 Sasha_ :P
23:58 SparkyProjects speed_linux, CaptainNiobe is afk at  the moment, sleeping
23:58 speed_linux i ment CaptainNiobe
23:58 speed_linux but the joke failed
23:58 speed_linux :(
23:59 speed_linux hi CaptainNiobe!
23:59 SparkyProjects ^

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