Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-08-28

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00:34 Vladdeh joined #thegeekgroup
00:36 Toastdude Hi Vladdeh
00:37 lwq_laptop TOAST
00:38 Toastdude lwq_laptop: !
00:38 lwq_laptop hi
00:38 Toastdude Hi. Whats up?
00:38 lwq_laptop nothing -.- my life is boring
00:39 Toastdude Aw...
00:40 Toastdude They're registered...
00:41 O_o Hi
00:43 Sgt_Lemming lol
00:44 Sgt_Lemming that is a registered nick :-P
00:45 O__o This is just stupid now...
00:48 [Python] left #thegeekgroup
00:49 Killa-X Hello people of the IRC
00:50 masterofmonks Hello Killa-X
00:50 Killa-X How ya doing today
00:51 masterofmonks Not getting rained on... unfortunately.
00:51 tlockley hey guys
00:51 BotSteve tlockley: I have the following messages for you:
00:51 BotSteve At 27 Aug 19:44Z, dr_jkl asked me to tell tlockley to check their e-mail and confirm their account again. if it doesn't work e-mail me. jkl at thegeekgroup dot org
00:52 tlockley thanks BotSteve
00:52 BotSteve No problem, tlockley
00:52 BotSteve All your message are belong to me tlockley.
00:52 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: MadScientistIT on Most dangerous compounds that you have ever had to deal with.
00:52 Killa-X Woo...lol
00:52 Toast-Away Lol
00:53 lwq1996 joined #thegeekgroup
00:53 Toast-Away Hi Killa-X
00:53 Killa-X Hello
00:53 Toast-Away Bye Killa-X
00:53 lwq1996 i cant get on irc through pidgin...why
00:53 Killa-X Good bye? lol
00:53 Toast-Away Bye lwq1996
00:53 lwq1996 bye
00:53 Toast-Away Lol
00:53 lwq1996 hi
00:55 lwq1996 hi masterofmonks
00:57 masterofmonks Hello lwq1996
00:58 Killa-X I need to buy a boat load of mosfets someday...
00:58 Sgt_Lemming rowing boat or cargo freighter?
00:59 lwq1996 joined #thegeekgroup
00:59 lwq1996 damn computer
00:59 masterofmonks Hello lwq1996
00:59 Killa-X cargo freighter would be better :)
00:59 lwq1996 masterofmonks any question today
01:00 Killa-X Just burn though them, and many projects using them ;)
01:02 masterofmonks Tonight I think we will go with a simi-relevant question. (simi because honestly the current sutuation on the east coast of the U.S. is not a real threat.)
01:03 masterofmonks Other than air, what is the next most important thing you need to ensure your survival in an emergency situation.
01:03 lwq1996 lol
01:03 lwq1996 water
01:04 lwq1996 food
01:04 lwq1996 fire
01:04 lwq1996 hear
01:04 lwq1996 heat
01:04 lwq1996 dry place
01:04 masterofmonks Shelter.
01:04 masterofmonks Water/fire
01:04 masterofmonks Food.
01:04 lwq1996 well a shelter has all that stuff :P
01:04 masterofmonks Not true.
01:05 lwq1996 i said dry place
01:05 Killa-X So if i climb under a rock in the woods (a shelter) ill find water fire and food just sitting there? :D
01:05 lwq1996 lol
01:06 Killa-X Yay for lack of details ;)
01:06 masterofmonks There is this thing called the rule of threes when it comes to survival.
01:06 masterofmonks Goes like this.
01:06 Killa-X Ill ask surviver man...
01:06 masterofmonks You can survive three hours withotu shelter.
01:06 masterofmonks Three days without water
01:06 lwq1996 lol
01:06 masterofmonks And three weeks withotu food.
01:07 lwq1996 and 30 without food
01:07 masterofmonks And about three minutes without air.
01:08 masterofmonks So you have all of these people in the north east of the U.S. freaking out and clearing out gorcery stores, but they don't think about secondary shelter.
01:08 lwq1996 lol
01:12 masterofmonks So now that we have a little thought primer for the question. "Enumerate three ways that water can be made safe to drink after a disaster."
01:12 lwq1996 carcoal, sand, and some type of permiable membrain
01:13 masterofmonks Those are all one way.
01:13 masterofmonks As a matter of fact, they are often used together.
01:14 lwq1996 ok
01:14 lwq1996 thats one way
01:14 lwq1996 another is water tablets
01:15 masterofmonks So far you have filtering and chemical treatment.
01:15 lwq1996 and boiling
01:15 lwq1996 yaya
01:16 Killa-X *finally contenues watching that 50 minute long thumper video*
01:17 lwq1996 lol
01:17 lwq1996 mini thumper too?
01:17 angy all theses answers don't treat all contaminants :)
01:17 Killa-X the 160 bank
01:17 Bat-Mobile joined #thegeekgroup
01:17 masterofmonks And it's Bat-Mobile
01:18 Killa-X yaaaay
01:18 lwq1996 hi bats\
01:18 Killa-X another person i havnt met yet :P
01:19 Bat-Mobile hey all
01:19 Bat-Mobile howdy Killa-X
01:19 Bat-Mobile welcome
01:19 Killa-X Only know your name from the blogs...hah
01:20 Bat-Mobile ...
01:20 Bat-Mobile my name is on the blogs?
01:20 Killa-X at least i think it was..unless im mistaken
01:20 Bat-Mobile or do you have me confused with the other Steve?  or the other batman?
01:20 Killa-X I wouldnt know heh
01:20 Bat-Mobile (I just realized how weird it is that we not only have more than one Steve but more than one Batman)
01:20 Killa-X was awhile ago
01:20 Killa-X Ya well, Am i the only Justin? lol
01:21 Killa-X if not you'll have two.
01:21 Cprossu damn forums
01:22 Bat-Mobile hi Cprossu, what did I miss while I was gone?
01:22 Cprossu I have no clue I was gone up until now
01:23 Bat-Mobile huh me too
01:23 Seroster Too hot
01:23 Seroster Too sweaty
01:24 Seroster :C
01:24 lwq1996 killa-x batsteve and batman and egrsteve is all different people
01:24 Seroster Going to bed
01:24 Seroster Cya folks, especially you, battie =)
01:24 Killa-X cya
01:24 lwq1996 bye
01:24 Bat-Mobile so long Seroster
01:24 lwq1996 .seen ponko
01:24 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw ponko 74.47 hours ago at 2011-08-24 22:56:39 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 01:24:38 UTC
01:24 lwq1996 .seen ponko92
01:24 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw ponko92 74.55 hours ago at 2011-08-24 22:51:44 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 01:24:46 UTC
01:24 Bat-Mobile BotSteve: tell ponko that I miss talking to him and hope he's doing well
01:24 BotSteve Bat-Mobile: I'll pass that on when ponko is around.
01:25 Seroster I want my ponko bat... I want to fuck with him!
01:25 Seroster back*
01:25 Killa-X lol
01:25 lwq1996 O.O GAY LOVERS
01:25 Killa-X hahaha
01:25 Seroster No! I aint gay for ponko!
01:25 Bat-Mobile ...yet
01:25 masterofmonks Today.
01:25 Seroster However, Bat-Mobile is my secret gay lover.
01:25 Killa-X No, its not gay! its just epic friendship! lol
01:25 lwq1996 seroster, ponko, and bats are all gay lovers
01:25 Bat-Mobile sooner or later everyone is gay for ponko
01:25 Seroster Oooooops. Not so secret anymore, eh
01:26 lwq1996 lol
01:26 lwq1996 ik
01:26 lwq1996 seroster....YOU STAY AWAY FROM BAT HES MINE....or we could have a 3 way :P
01:26 Killa-X oh god... lol
01:26 lwq1996 lol
01:26 Seroster You want Jehova to come in on the fun too?
01:26 Bat-Mobile .yt the golden rule lonely island
01:27 BotSteve Bat-Mobile: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi7gwX7rjOw
01:27 * lwq1996 is not gay and is deathy afraid of gay people
01:27 Seroster Crap, Me, Jahve, Bat-Mobile, lwq1996 and Santa are going to have a wild weekend some time soon!
01:27 speedrunnerG55 joined #thegeekgroup
01:27 lwq1996 o.o
01:27 Killa-X So when you see a gay, your just like GAAAAAY!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHH and drop everything and run?
01:27 Seroster lwq1996, you aint old enough for rum, so.. Sorry about that.
01:27 * lwq1996 is afraid of santa
01:27 Killa-X Hohoho..
01:28 Seroster lwq1996, Is that because you sat on the wrong santa's lap one time?
01:28 * lwq1996 bitch slaps santa
01:28 lwq1996 seroster....so....the worlds going to end in 2012...why not
01:28 Seroster Am I supposed to laugh or cry? =P
01:29 Killa-X And if it doesnt, nasa said a long time ago 2013 will be a large solar storm and whipe out a lot of electronics..
01:29 lwq1996 lol....i would believe nasa
01:30 Seroster Killa-X, Yeah. I bet at least 80% of the teens of today would die within hours without a cellphone.
01:30 Killa-X heh
01:30 angy that would be a relief
01:30 Killa-X I use my phone a bit but im not addicted to it... 3G, so emails
01:30 Seroster But to be honest, yeah. A solar storm is bad. Might fuck up a few satelites, might even mess a bit with the power lines, but for the average tom dick and harry, nah.
01:30 Killa-X Kills time when you have to weight :)
01:31 Killa-X fail.   Wait
01:31 lwq1996 lol...i would get out my telescope and look to the skys
01:32 Killa-X but yeah, would fry electronics but eh.. a lot of stuff they say isnt true anywayas
01:33 lwq1996 damn the telecope i use...uses power
01:33 lwq1996 no manual thing one it...all electric
01:35 Killa-X awww
01:36 * Bat-Mobile has his speakers off - if you need me, send me a highlight
01:36 Killa-X uh oh
01:37 Killa-X Im watching the old video of thumper demo, and i heard the name Justin... :P
01:39 Killa-X video makes me want to play with my bank..
01:41 Killa-X Hmm...bank dumps to negitive 160V..not relatively a GOOD thing but lol
01:41 lwq1996 0.0
01:41 Killa-X hmm?
01:42 Seroster Bat-Mobile!
01:42 Seroster I need you!
01:42 Bat-Mobile Seroster!
01:42 Bat-Mobile what's up?
01:42 Seroster I need to rub against your warm hairy chest!
01:42 Bat-Mobile oh
01:42 Seroster And then I'll rub you with oil
01:42 Seroster Get you all shiny and nice
01:43 Seroster Then I will take you to the edge of a cliff and make sweet sweet love to you!
01:43 Bat-Mobile you're about to be disappointed - there is no hair on my chest
01:43 Bat-Mobile I was trying to shave it into an image of your face
01:43 Seroster And if it's not great love I'll kick your ass down the cliff. Bwaha.
01:43 Bat-Mobile but the razor slipped
01:43 Seroster So Now I look like John McCain? =D
01:43 Bat-Mobile More like Shaft, but that might be because I'm looking at it upside down
01:43 lwq1996 bat steve...cheat on him.....with me :P
01:44 Seroster xD
01:44 Seroster lwq1996, I suppose you are 14?
01:44 Seroster I don't know how legal it is for Bat-Mobile, 30+ to copulate with you... =P
01:44 lwq1996 we will keep it a secret
01:45 Bat-Mobile pft
01:45 Bat-Mobile secrets on the internet
01:45 masterofmonks Secret.
01:45 Bat-Mobile that's a funny joke
01:45 masterofmonks In a publicly logged and searchable channel.
01:45 lwq1996 haha
01:45 * lwq1996 HIDS
01:45 lwq1996 batsteve i think you should hid too
01:46 Seroster lol
01:46 Seroster I doubt theorizing about it is illegal
01:46 Obtuse_ joined #thegeekgroup
01:47 lwq1996 as long as we dont end up on date line
01:48 Chris_Hanson joined #thegeekgroup
01:48 Chris_Hanson I saw it anyway
01:48 Chris_Hanson left #thegeekgroup
01:48 lwq1996 WTF
01:51 Seroster Anyhow, cya
01:51 Bat-Mobile so long Seroster
01:56 Seroster I know we got a lot of geeks here
01:56 Seroster But damn, that was a JOCK!
01:56 Seroster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hanson
01:59 clony101 joined #thegeekgroup
01:59 clony101 hello
02:00 Bat-Mobile hi clony101
02:01 clony101 where did lwq go
02:02 Bat-Mobile pinged out
02:02 clony101 .seen lwq1996
02:02 BotSteve clony101: I last saw lwq1996 0.23 hours ago at 2011-08-28 01:48:36 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:02:13 UTC
02:07 yNos hey everyone
02:07 clony101 hi ynos
02:07 yNos has this been passed around yet?
02:07 yNos http://www.livestream.com/breakinglivenow
02:08 clony101 no
02:08 yNos am at my sister's place and she was watching it when we got there... though i'd jump on my machine@home and pass it on to the crew
02:08 yNos looks like they need a wiper on that cam
02:09 clony101 lol
02:10 SparkyProjects I'm currently watching a cnn stream http://www.justin.tv/newsbuffs#/w/1678100640/12
02:10 SparkyProjects There's several other Irene livecams on jtv, but most are too dark to see anything
02:15 yNos hmm
02:15 yNos i havent thought to look.
02:16 Killa-X im back..was watching TV :P
02:18 clony101 lol
02:18 clony101 you were playing games with your sis dont lie
02:18 SparkyProjects So, Killa-x, what did you think of the Thumper vid ?
02:18 Killa-X no that was yesterday lol, i was watching TV :P
02:18 clony101 lol
02:18 clony101 ok
02:19 clony101 wat ever u say
02:19 Killa-X SparkyProjects, A lot more powerful than mine, but reminds me of the fun i had with capacitors :)
02:19 clony101 lol
02:19 Killa-X American restorations thank you very much :P
02:19 clony101 I LOVE THAT SHOW
02:19 * speedrunnerG55 pokes Bat-Mobile
02:19 SparkyProjects And they're going to rebuild it, more caps, new gap etc.
02:19 * speedrunnerG55 is drowning
02:19 Killa-X watched the recording of the one from yesterday
02:20 Bat-Mobile hi speed
02:20 Bat-Mobile watcha drowning in?
02:22 Killa-X Air!!
02:24 wannabe1987 joined #thegeekgroup
02:24 * wannabe1987 pokes speedrunnerG55
02:25 speedrunnerG55 the hurracane
02:25 wannabe1987 what about it
02:25 speedrunnerG55 idk
02:25 speedrunnerG55 i was answering Bat-Mobile
02:25 Killa-X i know someone in north Carolina who had fun watching it
02:25 wannabe1987 lol
02:25 speedrunnerG55 wannabe i mesed up my itunes library
02:26 wannabe1987 that sucks
02:26 speedrunnerG55 i had to call apple care 5 times for my to get a solution
02:26 speedrunnerG55 and its going to take me a VERRY LONG time to impliment it
02:27 speedrunnerG55 i have to manually rename a ton of files
02:27 speedrunnerG55 >_>
02:27 Killa-X aww :(
02:27 speedrunnerG55 joy
02:27 Killa-X always..
02:27 * speedrunnerG55 stabbs apple
02:28 Killa-X What did the apple ever do to you
02:28 speedrunnerG55 why must the y encrypt there file structure on there iphones
02:30 angy to reduce power consumption, primarely
02:30 Killa-X all this video did for me was make me want to play with my cap bank tomorrow...
02:31 wannabe1987 lol
02:31 wannabe1987 Killa-X did you go to the car cruise on 28th today?
02:31 angy try not to burn down anything
02:31 wannabe1987 or yesterday at all?
02:31 Killa-X no..?
02:31 wannabe1987 ah.  saw a lambo on chicago dr...then saw it later at the car sho
02:31 wannabe1987 show*
02:32 Killa-X Angy, last time i launched a harddrive platter on top of our tree.
02:32 angy that's not nice for the tree
02:32 Killa-X it fell eventually :P
02:32 speedrunnerG55 power cunsumption?
02:33 angy hash searching
02:33 Killa-X power consumption? no idea? lol
02:34 eadthem im trying to make a heater core for a project
02:34 eadthem i need something like ceramic pegboard or a small ceramic sheet with lots of small holes in it
02:35 eadthem to suspend the nicrome
02:35 eadthem its got to be food safe
02:35 angy FDA food safe or just food safe?
02:35 eadthem well fda is prefferd but food safe is good
02:37 angy what's your timeframe?
02:37 eadthem a heatgun would almost work execpt for every one ive encouterd will occasonaly spit dust from the heater core insulators
02:37 eadthem its just a idea for a couple projects ive had for a while
02:37 Cprossu I haven't been able to do anything today (lol)
02:38 angy I think I wrote 10 lines of code today
02:39 angy and they may be useless
02:39 Cprossu it happens.
02:39 eadthem i was more wondering if someone knew of a company that makes ceramic things like that
02:40 Cprossu .seen tggmc
02:40 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw tggmc 177.13 hours ago at 2011-08-20 17:32:25 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:40:05 UTC
02:40 eadthem the previous idea i had was ceramic allthread for supporting the nichrome
02:40 angy I'm starting to write quite good php, it's a little frightening
02:40 eadthem never found much for that
02:41 angy I tend to make my own ceramic things when I need it
02:41 injektion joined #thegeekgroup
02:42 wannabe1987 hi injektion
02:42 Bat-Mobile hi injektion
02:42 Bat-Mobile hi wannabe1987
02:42 wannabe1987 hi bats
02:43 injektion Hi
02:44 eadthem my issue with makeing my own is fireing it
02:44 Killa-X whys that?
02:44 injektion|ipad joined #thegeekgroup
02:45 Killa-X I still need to add this IRC to my phone...
02:45 Killa-X I know its #thegeekgroup, but whats the server?
02:45 Bat-Mobile freenode
02:45 Bat-Mobile you should be able to use irc.freenode.net
02:45 Cprossu irc.freenode.net
02:45 eadthem well i dont have a kiln
02:46 Killa-X k, ill try that sometime later on my phone and see what happens lol
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02:49 * speedrunnerG55 pokes wannabe1987
02:49 wannabe1987 o.O
02:51 Killa-X Yay for pokes.
02:52 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: SitkaGrown on Most dangerous compounds that you have ever had to deal with.
02:54 * angy hates pokes
02:54 * Killa-X wonders if he should poke angy
02:54 * wannabe1987 sets up force sheild around angy
02:55 angy thanks wannabe
02:55 wannabe1987 np
02:55 Killa-X Awwww
02:55 * yNos yawns
02:55 yNos time for bed
02:55 wannabe1987 yNos you're getting old if you're tird now...
02:55 angy good night
02:55 wannabe1987 tired* or going to bed :P
02:55 yNos the little girl wakes up to early
02:55 Killa-X hahaha
02:55 wannabe1987 night
02:55 Killa-X 10:55 yeah :P early :D
02:56 Killa-X ah.. i wake at 11AM :P cya
02:56 yNos c'mon now.. i got up at 5am this morn to prep for the picnic
02:56 Killa-X Makes since :)
02:56 angy I woke around 1300 today :)
02:56 Bat-Mobile angy: showoff
02:56 Bat-Mobile (:
02:56 wannabe1987 10:30....
02:56 yNos we didnt make it out to the cruise today either.
02:56 wannabe1987 i did
02:56 Killa-X I worked all day :P
02:56 angy I did however go to bed roughly around 0800 :(
02:56 wannabe1987 saw a lambo :D
02:56 yNos we saw it last night for a while when we hit the dallas deli wagon
02:56 yNos never seen a lambo before?
02:57 * angy want to sleep at night, not during day
02:57 yNos same here.
02:57 wannabe1987 um no?
02:57 wannabe1987 not many of them around here...
02:57 wannabe1987 not many people in MI can afford one
02:57 wannabe1987 it didn't have normal plates either
02:57 injektion I see a lot of Maserati's in Atlanta
02:58 Bat-Mobile the other thing is that in michigan there's enough salt on the roads in the winter that if you drove one it'd rot out before it was a year old
02:58 yNos You should hit more car shows.. eventually you will see one.
02:59 yNos i thought they were fiberglass?
02:59 angy you may get stuck with a GT car on the salt :)
02:59 wannabe1987 we attempted to show drews car, but the cops stopped us :P
02:59 angy can be fun ``I just sank into salt''
03:00 yNos i want to do a lowcost 7
03:00 wannabe1987 gah.  police harrasment is NOT FUN
03:00 yNos i have both books... just not the time
03:01 yNos fck the po-lease, coming straight from the underground
03:02 yNos goddamnit
03:02 yNos must now find the song
03:02 yNos TO THE INTERNETS!
03:03 Cprossu woo
03:03 yNos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S8Wc26XowM
03:04 yNos i know, nwa did it first..
03:04 yNos but i prefer ratm
03:04 yNos Tom Morello can make some badass guitar sounds.
03:05 Cprossu So can Brian Carroll
03:05 Cprossu (not the soccer player)
03:06 lwq_laptop joined #thegeekgroup
03:08 Sgt_Lemming need. more. video....
03:08 Sgt_Lemming starting to get withdrawls
03:09 lwq_laptop withdrawls from what videos
03:09 wannabe1987 LEE
03:09 lwq_laptop WANNABE....i was on....then fucking ubuntu desided not to work
03:09 * wannabe1987 tackes, hugs
03:09 Killa-X Hmm...Rather chilly outside :P
03:09 wannabe1987 tackles*
03:09 wannabe1987 yes Killa-X
03:10 wannabe1987 awww ")
03:10 lwq_laptop i love coldness
03:10 wannabe1987 :(*
03:10 Killa-X All windows open :P
03:10 lwq_laptop lol
03:10 Killa-X Want a cold room because sleeping in a cold room is win
03:10 * lwq_laptop hugs wannabe for a long time
03:10 SparkyProjects left #thegeekgroup
03:10 lwq_laptop i love sleeping in the cold...the hotness is what i hate
03:10 wannabe1987 i need heated blankets in the winter
03:10 lwq_laptop wannabe im getting online
03:11 Killa-X same. I like sleeping in the cold because then i have an excuse to be wrapped up :P
03:11 wannabe1987 um, dear?  you already are online
03:11 lwq_laptop lol...my rooms always 90 and i crack the window even
03:11 yNos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TD2E2MTQsE
03:11 yNos ^cprossu
03:11 lwq_laptop no im not....it says i am because i was just on then i got disconnected
03:11 Killa-X Mines outside temperature + Computer space heater
03:11 Cprossu *watches
03:12 * angy is trying NetFlix...
03:13 lwq_laptop angy is it a limited time offer
03:13 angy yep, but I'm bored for one month :p
03:13 Cprossu hahahah yNos
03:14 Killa-X whatever keeps you busy
03:14 Bat-Mobile I read that as "angy is a limited time offer"
03:14 angy that's also true
03:14 wannabe1987 lol
03:14 yNos Do i know any jokes about sodium? Na..
03:14 Cprossu there was a quote from ozzy osbourne years ago where he had fired buckethead with the note -We couldn't work with him, he'd never remove his mask, we thought one day we'd be ready for a show and there'd be a note on his door
03:14 angy today only $1.99
03:14 Killa-X I read it that way the first time, then i read it again and was like ohhh..
03:14 Cprossu "Sorry left for mars, ta-ta"
03:14 wannabe1987 i did a "high ropes course" today...
03:14 yNos nice
03:15 wannabe1987 oooo a sale!
03:15 lwq_laptop WANNABE GET ON FACEBOOK
03:15 wannabe1987 i am?
03:15 wannabe1987 i'm having browser issues, please be patient
03:15 angy offer ends in 45 minutes! be prepared, I only accept credit cards :D
03:15 wannabe1987 ...
03:15 wannabe1987 no comment, its not this forum appropriate
03:16 angy good idea, I'm going to go see my Facebook thingy
03:16 wannabe1987 thingy?
03:17 * speedrunnerG55 sees nikon playing tf2
03:17 angy that's what I think of Facebook, a thingy
03:17 wannabe1987 ooo
03:17 angy I dislike it nearly as much as Google or Flash
03:17 wannabe1987 then why have one?
03:18 angy it's kind of a very old thing
03:18 lwq_laptop angy add me...
03:18 wannabe1987 ah
03:18 lwq_laptop www.facebook.com/lwq1996
03:18 wannabe1987 lee you don't need everyone...
03:18 kellyEv joined #thegeekgroup
03:18 lwq_laptop YES I DO
03:18 speedrunnerG55 someone added me on facebook earlyer
03:18 angy I used to have one when I was in the us, so I still have it...
03:18 speedrunnerG55 hi wannabe1987
03:19 wannabe7891 speed was it Killa-X?  aka justin ( i think)
03:19 yNos any other riders out there?
03:19 yNos http://msf-usa.org/index_new.cfm?pagen​ame=News&action=display&conten​t=01F99BC5-C291-4619-4784F1AA84314F17
03:19 speedrunnerG55 yes wannabe7891
03:19 wannabe7891 nie
03:19 wannabe7891 nice
03:19 wannabe7891 two computerse, two nicks
03:19 yNos NICs?
03:19 yNos or nicks?
03:19 wannabe7891 nick names
03:19 wannabe7891 ?
03:19 yNos gdamn
03:19 angy lwq_laptop: that's done
03:19 * lwq_laptop goes and lurks on justins profile for speeds facebook
03:19 wannabe7891 ...
03:19 angy but you won't really see anything interesting :)
03:19 wannabe7891 STALKER
03:20 wannabe7891 thats my job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
03:20 yNos i am getting tired... and i get leave my sister's place till tracey finishes watching this sappy ass movie.
03:20 lwq_laptop i stalk on everyone where are you when i do this...i even say...im gona stalk on you
03:20 Cprossu everyone here seen the amazing johnathan?
03:20 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoygH4h45jM
03:20 Cprossu heh hehehehe
03:21 Killa-X lurks? why lwq, why!!!!
03:21 Killa-X Dat video makes people look fat
03:21 lwq_laptop killa-x.....because i cna
03:21 lwq_laptop can
03:21 wannabe7891 so. tired
03:22 Killa-X Me too. i have to wake at 7:30 AM for work heh
03:22 wannabe7891 craazy
03:22 lwq_laptop i go to sleep never....im a night owl
03:22 angy don't become like me
03:22 wannabe7891 so am i, im just exhausted
03:23 lwq_laptop angy is yoru name yann-guirec manac'h
03:23 wannabe7891 haven't been sleeping well latelly
03:23 angy yep
03:23 wannabe7891 interesting name, sir
03:23 Killa-X on days i dont work, im up till 4AM, and sleep until 12PM
03:23 lwq_laptop me neither.
03:23 lwq_laptop lol
03:24 lwq_laptop i wasnt shure if that was your name or not
03:24 wannabe7891 is it too much to ask of a cmoputer to SCROOL...
03:24 wannabe7891 scroll*
03:24 lwq_laptop wannabes computer is a fail
03:24 wannabe7891 and its the dell too...not the netbook
03:24 lwq_laptop OH I GOT A NEW PILLOW TODAY
03:24 wannabe7891 tj had blocked the netbook from internet, but he allowed it....
03:24 wannabe7891 nice
03:24 wannabe7891 pillow sounds so good righ tnow...
03:24 lwq_laptop lol
03:25 Killa-X I tried to block internet before....
03:25 angy my hockey stock is on my bed
03:25 wannabe7891 mine is behind me
03:25 wannabe7891 move it?
03:25 angy I'll have to
03:25 lwq_laptop because my dog kept using mine so i gave him mine
03:25 angy but there are the cats lurking around
03:25 lwq_laptop my dogs now got a new bed to sleep on
03:26 angy cats are really found to go pee in my hockey stock
03:26 angy and it's just horrible after that
03:27 Killa-X our dog sleeps on the bed..and she pushes you off over the duration of the night..
03:27 lwq_laptop lol
03:27 wannabe7891 stock?
03:27 angy gears
03:27 wannabe7891 max sleeps on the floor
03:27 wannabe7891 ah
03:27 lwq_laptop mine does too and hes a weiner dog
03:28 angy our dog sleeps in the basement
03:29 Killa-X lol
03:29 lwq_laptop lol
03:29 angy away from me :)
03:29 Killa-X ours gets too much love and sleeps on beds or the couch :D
03:29 lwq_laptop mine does too
03:29 angy dog dislike me
03:29 lwq_laptop i spoil my dog
03:29 angy I spoil my cats :p
03:29 Killa-X i do the same but for doggy :P
03:30 lwq_laptop lol...i would shoot a cat before i would have one
03:30 wannabe7891 max is spoiled
03:30 angy I like my cats :)
03:30 wannabe7891 quanto?
03:31 * angy limited time offer end now! all quantities are out of stock
03:31 wannabe7891 aka how many cats do you have?
03:31 angy 2 and a half
03:31 wannabe7891 nice
03:31 lwq_laptop lol how a half
03:32 wannabe7891 front or back?
03:32 angy neighbor cat
03:32 angy he stick with me a lot
03:32 lwq_laptop i see
03:32 yNos cprossu: amazing jonathan is funny sht, i never heard of him before
03:33 lwq_laptop you man do you like birds...**flips person off**
03:33 Killa-X :P
03:34 wannabe1987 sounds like something tj would do....
03:34 Cprossu yeah he's good
03:35 speedrunnerG55 lwq_laptop: what are you doing???
03:35 Killa-X http://abc.go.com/watch/take-the-money-and-​run/SH55132498/VD55140362/whos-playing-whom anyone really bored my sister linked this and said it was good episode :P
03:35 lwq_laptop nothing...watching amazing johnathan
03:38 Killa-X "were getting cupcakes because where fat and thats what we do" Good excuse i guess...
03:39 * angy just found a new dead pixel!
03:40 Killa-X on what?
03:41 angy my laptop screen
03:41 wannabe1987 congrats
03:41 Killa-X mm..i never seen a dead pixel before :l lol
03:41 angy lucky you
03:41 angy but my laptop is 6 years old :)
03:42 wannabe1987 what does DDoS mean when its a DDoS attack?
03:42 angy distributed
03:42 angy distributed dos
03:42 eadthem distibuted denial of service
03:42 wannabe1987 dos?
03:43 wannabe1987 ah thanks eadthem
03:43 angy like the new attack against apache out there
03:43 eadthem ?
03:43 wannabe1987 minecraft, LoL, etc went down...
03:43 eadthem what new attack?
03:43 angy there is a new ddos attack against apache
03:43 wannabe1987 http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/104600-​Minecraft-Multiplayer-Brought-Down-by-DDoS-Attack
03:43 angy and still not patched
03:46 Killa-X hehe
03:46 Cprossu a new one?
03:46 Cprossu I thought they were patching the 'old' one
03:47 angy depend on old :)
03:47 angy like 3-4 days ago
03:48 Cprossu like 4 year old vuln
03:48 angy new one :)
03:48 angy http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox​/httpd-announce/201108.mbox/%3c201108261​03531.998348F82@minotaur.apache.org%3e
03:51 angy hockey gear smell is just horrible
03:55 Killa-X Is it? i wouldnt know haha
03:55 angy unfortunately as a goalie I have tons of gears
03:57 Cprossu angy the mitigation looks rather severe too
03:58 angy :)
03:59 Bat-Mobile time to go
03:59 Bat-Mobile so long all
04:00 Cprossu later Bat-Mobile
04:00 angy night Batty!
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04:00 wannabe1987 night bats
04:00 wannabe1987 awww too late :(
04:00 angy next time :)
04:00 angy Yey! Sunday!
04:01 Killa-X woot!
04:01 angy Everyone have a nice Sunday. I like Sunday!
04:03 wannabe1987 lol
04:05 Killa-X yup..i work 8-12..then no idea whats going on the rest of my day
04:05 wannabe1987 blow shit up
04:05 angy I work nearly all time, so...
04:05 Killa-X well, i want things to go how id love things to go, and be able to get my friend over here, who i lost contact to for 3 months, and finally got contact breifly ;)
04:07 wannabe1987 :)
04:08 speedrunnerG55 ?
04:08 angy *contact* :p
04:08 * speedrunnerG55 is poplaying minecraft
04:08 speedrunnerG55 soory
04:08 speedrunnerG55 playing
04:08 angy you poplay?
04:08 angy that's a fun word
04:08 speedrunnerG55 lol
04:08 Killa-X lol..
04:08 speedrunnerG55 playpoop?
04:09 angy ><
04:09 Killa-X playdoh!
04:10 angy population playing, he's playing Civilisation in fact!
04:10 angy or SimCity
04:10 angy or just Sims
04:12 lwq_laptop im so bored
04:12 angy likewise
04:12 Killa-X im watching that abc video feed so..
04:12 lwq_laptop im watching your mother sleep :P
04:13 wannabe1987 Killa-X nice stilts.  why do you need them?
04:13 Killa-X i dont need them lol, they are for the sport of bocking and jumping.
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04:15 wannabe1987 wb
04:15 lwq_laptop1 i hate my internet
04:15 lwq_laptop1 its fast but not reliable
04:16 angy that's the point of consumer grade internet
04:17 lwq_laptop1 i need a new router....
04:18 lwq_laptop1 its a router i got from the company so i cant use my own high speed...reliable router
04:18 angy crash it on a wall
04:19 lwq_laptop1 what
04:19 angy the router
04:19 lwq_laptop1 oh smash it
04:19 wannabe1987 cant you still use your own?
04:20 lwq_laptop1 nah....that would help i would just have  wait5days for a new one
04:20 lwq_laptop1 no i cant...they made it so you cant hook up your own
04:21 lwq_laptop1 i probally could if i messed with the internet settings but im to lazy and i would probally screw it up
04:21 angy cable or dsl?
04:22 lwq_laptop1 dsl
04:22 Killa-X weee
04:22 angy lots and lots of parameters to mess with
04:23 Killa-X icecream all gone.
04:23 lwq_laptop1 lol
04:23 angy and I did not even have?
04:23 wannabe1987 i have mini ice cream sandwiches
04:24 angy I have ice cold vodka
04:24 angy or gin
04:24 wannabe1987 oooo vodka.  i has some
04:24 lwq_laptop1 i have nothing "(
04:24 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i have some vodka
04:24 BotSteve Nope
04:24 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i have some vodka
04:24 BotSteve Not a chance
04:24 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i have some vodka
04:24 BotSteve Nope
04:24 wannabe1987 BOTSTEVE
04:24 lwq_laptop1 WANNABE I THOUGHT YOU WERE DRUG AND ALAHOL FREE
04:24 angy BotSteve: should i have some vodka
04:24 BotSteve Definitely
04:24 wannabe1987 hahahahaha
04:25 angy hahahaha
04:25 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i have some vodka
04:25 BotSteve Not a chance
04:25 wannabe7891 BotSteve: should wannabe have vodka
04:25 BotSteve Ask again later!
04:25 wannabe7891 BotSteve: should wannabe have vodka
04:25 BotSteve Maybe
04:25 lwq_laptop1 botsteve should we hate wannabe
04:25 BotSteve Nope
04:25 wannabe7891 BotSteve: should wannabe have vodka
04:25 BotSteve Not a chance
04:25 wannabe7891 i
04:25 wannabe7891 m going to anyway :P
04:25 angy BotSteve: should wannabe have some vodka
04:25 BotSteve Definitely
04:25 angy you have to drink with me then
04:25 wannabe1987 ok
04:25 * wannabe1987 gets up
04:25 lwq_laptop1 botsteve should i have some voka
04:25 BotSteve Not a chance
04:26 lwq_laptop1 damn
04:26 wannabe1987 lee you're too young
04:26 wannabe1987 i'm old enough
04:26 angy I have the bot permission to get drunk!
04:26 lwq_laptop1 awe
04:27 * angy is going to be trashed, but not tonight
04:27 wannabe1987 i drink it straight
04:27 lwq_laptop1 lol....
04:27 angy I drink martini
04:27 lwq_laptop1 i drink it no way
04:28 lwq_laptop1 botsteve should i pretend to be 21
04:28 BotSteve I don't think so
04:28 angy lwq_laptop1: not a chance!
04:28 lwq_laptop1 i mean i dont drink it at all
04:28 wannabe1987 i don't normally drink
04:28 angy sound idea
04:28 angy can I have your liver?
04:28 wannabe1987 but i'm not on anti-depressants right now so it doens't matter
04:29 * Killa-X pushes the big coil to the side to make room for tomorrows capacitor / thermalgun play
04:30 tonsofpcs BotSteve should I pack some 151 for tomorrow if we need to use the backup system?
04:30 BotSteve Yep!
04:30 tonsofpcs :)
04:30 angy BotSteve: should I get trashed tonight ?
04:30 BotSteve Maybe
04:31 angy Great answer :p
04:31 tonsofpcs BotSteve: should angy find a ride home?
04:31 BotSteve Absolutely
04:31 wannabe1987 why isn't angy home?
04:31 angy thanks tonsofpcs
04:31 angy I am :)
04:31 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell batsteve that we're using his bot to drink
04:31 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when batsteve is around.
04:31 angy but I need a ride from my office to my bedroom
04:31 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: heey, I'm using the 151 as cooking fuel
04:31 wannabe1987 oooo
04:31 wannabe1987 right tonsofpcs
04:32 wannabe1987 but angy and i are using him to drink
04:32 tonsofpcs and 'watter purification'
04:32 tonsofpcs *water
04:32 tonsofpcs we has a hurrican comin! dontcha hear?
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04:32 angy a new game BotSteve Drinker!
04:32 lwq_laptop1 KATE
04:32 Katemonster LIQUID
04:32 lwq_laptop1 lol
04:32 Katemonster how are you
04:32 lwq_laptop1 good
04:32 Katemonster also Killa-X
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04:33 Killa-X yeeeeees?
04:33 injektion Yes I bought an iPad
04:33 Katemonster I'm not kidding.  In fact more like 13.
04:33 Killa-X oh sry
04:33 Killa-X didnt read up
04:33 Killa-X 19 but 21 in december
04:33 Katemonster lol
04:33 Killa-X People at my work thought my sister was 18 and shes 23
04:33 Katemonster i think you skipped a year though.
04:34 angy my advisor get carted
04:34 angy and she's more like 35 than 18
04:34 Katemonster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzVee5CVOBA
04:34 Killa-X do need hair cut...im like 2 weeks past my usual hehe
04:35 angy I'm going my winter hairs
04:35 Killa-X i usually do long in winter short in summer but i kept it long..at least, i call it long haha
04:35 Killa-X prob get 1.5 inches cut off or something
04:35 * angy hates inches
04:36 angy go to hell inches!
04:36 Killa-X lol
04:36 * Katemonster is stuck in her old American ways and will always use the inch standard
04:36 angy I'm bi-standard, but I hate inches
04:36 lwq_laptop1 angy inches hates you
04:36 angy I think so
04:36 Killa-X would be true to say metric is a lot faster conversions :P
04:36 wannabe1987 you did it wrong
04:37 wannabe1987 in soviet russia, inches hate you!
04:37 Katemonster if i feel like confusing people, i start listing off measurements in линя.
04:37 Killa-X and yea, i use both
04:37 Killa-X 50% of the time i say a measurement in inches, 50% metric
04:37 Killa-X when it comes to electronics, its all metric
04:37 injektion I use the metric system
04:38 lwq_laptop1 lol
04:38 injektion Except for speed and temperature
04:38 lwq_laptop1 lol
04:38 Killa-X kinda
04:38 Killa-X Some stuff i do use C instead of F
04:38 angy I had to go back to inches a few years ago
04:38 Killa-X like computers, im use to C, if someone told me a graphics card was 100F, I have no idea if thats good or bad
04:39 Katemonster i have to use metric for some firearm ammunition, and that's about the extent of my exposure to it.
04:39 injektion I use it to measure but not for nothing else
04:39 Thermoelectric Pfft, the metricated way of life is the best.
04:39 angy all the engineering I know is in metric, so it's kind hard sometimes
04:39 Killa-X but if you tell me its 40C, i know its fine
04:39 angy 100F is the human body temperature :)
04:39 Killa-X i rather use metric when it comes to projects
04:39 angy that's my only F reference
04:39 Katemonster if you tell me it's 40C, i'll just stare at you blankly.
04:39 angy can be very fun
04:40 Thermoelectric What temperature does water boil at?
04:40 Killa-X i tend to like things aligned, and metric mm's have more ticks than inches so :P
04:40 angy something F
04:40 Killa-X was it 212?
04:40 Killa-X 200 something..
04:40 angy a book burn at 451
04:40 lwq_laptop1 100 c
04:40 Katemonster ...what's water?
04:40 Katemonster :|
04:40 Thermoelectric Dihydrogen monoxide.
04:41 Killa-X 451..is a name of a book too ;) hehehe
04:41 * Katemonster suddenly knows nothing
04:41 angy that's why I know it
04:41 Killa-X same lol
04:41 lwq_laptop1 OH I KNOW THAT BOOK...ihavent read it but want to read it
04:41 angy go find it!
04:41 wannabe1987 Killa-X i had to read that book in hs
04:41 Katemonster i know water freezes at 0C and boils at 100C.  beyond that, fuck if i know
04:41 Killa-X same
04:41 wannabe1987 yay for 11th grade english
04:41 lwq_laptop1 what is its full name tho
04:41 Killa-X yup
04:42 wannabe1987 fyi: vodka burns
04:42 wannabe1987 farenheit 451
04:42 Katemonster yes, yes it does
04:42 Katemonster most things burn under the right circumstances.
04:42 lwq_laptop1 thats it
04:42 Killa-X I'm not much a reader. i rather hands on learning..so i didnt enjoy english :P
04:42 lwq_laptop1 even human skin >:)
04:42 angy I don't speak english
04:42 angy wait... I am ><
04:42 wannabe1987 i love english
04:43 lwq_laptop1 lol
04:43 lwq_laptop1 i speak engrish
04:43 angy I speak angry :p
04:43 Killa-X i love .. science
04:43 Katemonster so liquid... what's the name of the protagonist of F451?
04:43 Killa-X which is probably why i watch discovery / science channel all day.
04:43 lwq_laptop1 idk...i havent read it..i already said that
04:43 angy I mostly watch NatGeo and Discovery
04:43 Katemonster Guy Montag.
04:44 wannabe1987 i don't watch tv ON tv...
04:44 angy but when I'm bored and feeling low, I switch to Fox
04:44 lwq_laptop1 for that note i sall point out wannabe doesnt own a tv
04:44 Katemonster honestly the only reason i remember the name of the book is because it's the access code for the first numeric keypad you find in Deus Ex.
04:45 Katemonster it's kind of sad how many of the keycodes and passwords i have memorized from playing that.
04:46 wannabe1987 wannabe acquires tv showes and watches them either on the computer or someones tv/ps3
04:46 lwq_laptop1 lol
04:47 lwq_laptop1 we should send money to wannabe
04:47 angy my memory is very good for phone numbers, useless passwords and very bad for people names
04:47 angy or a tv/ps3
04:48 lwq_laptop1 lol yeah
04:48 Killa-X My memory is bad with phone numbers, I dont have any passwords writen down anywhere, i remember locker combinations, and peoples names
04:48 Killa-X I probably could remember phone numbers if i wasnt so lazy to just put them on my phone and click the persons name, and hit "call"
04:49 lwq_laptop1 i just got my locker combo in the mail...and looked at it once and threw it away...and i still remember my locker combo for last year and the year before
04:49 Killa-X if its something important ill remember it for life. else ill forget it
04:50 lwq_laptop1 lol....i remember useless shit...but forget important stuff like times and dates
04:50 Killa-X thats why when it comes to life or friends, if someone does something, Id nevre forget.it..no matter how hard you try..
04:50 lwq_laptop1 lol
04:50 Killa-X My mind just never stops :P
04:50 Killa-X even at work. im doing work, but my mind isnt at work.
04:51 angy I can't do that :)
04:51 Killa-X it is so i dont lose track of how many dohnuts im pulling for tomorrow
04:51 Killa-X but im still wondering in my mind..Some reason I think too much of stuff, and play out events :P
04:52 Killa-X Pros and cons to that xD
04:52 angy can I have a donut ?
04:52 tonsofpcs mmmm
04:52 Killa-X Pros is creativity, being able to visually see a project in mind and how to make it.  The cons is when it comes to a life situation, it fking kills me on the inside..
04:52 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Radioactive on Most dangerous compounds that you have ever had to deal with......Cprossu on Most dangerous compounds that you have ever had to deal with.
04:53 Killa-X Ya.  Come to hudsonnville :P
04:53 Killa-X ill make sure to specially glaze it for you, write your name on it with buttercreme cake icing, glaze it agian for protection on the name! and give it to you ;)
04:54 wannabe1987 i have fresh green beans for bedtime snack :)
04:54 angy yey! bedtime snack
04:54 Killa-X mine was icecream
04:54 Killa-X Sometimes i wonder how im not fat.
04:54 Killa-X I eat a lot o.O
04:56 wannabe1987 i had ice cream.  i'm also eating green beans
04:56 wannabe1987 does anyone know what to do with eggplant?
04:56 angy ratatouille
04:56 Killa-X Put it on youtube and ask why its not a plant that grows eggs
04:57 wannabe1987 LOL
04:57 wannabe1987 angy really?  hmmmmm
04:57 angy moussaka, Mtabba
04:57 angy Pakoros, baba ganoush
04:57 angy lots of things
04:58 wannabe1987 i have everything but zucchini....
04:58 wannabe1987 http://www.epicurious.com/recipe​s/food/views/Ratatouille-108350
04:58 wannabe1987 grandma gave me two egglplants, small
04:59 angy I'll try to write you my receipt of ratatouille
04:59 wannabe1987 oooo sounds good.  i've only heard of it since the movie :P
05:00 angy it's very simple, but take a very long time to have it right
05:02 angy I can give you nearly any receipt you want in french cuisine ;)
05:03 wannabe1987 i haven't tackled french cuisine yet...
05:04 angy :)
05:04 angy simple to learn, a lifetime to master
05:06 wannabe1987 see?  i'd rather make up my own food.
05:06 wannabe1987 can you put meat in ratatouille?  or does that ruin it...
05:06 angy I will say NO, cook it aside :)
05:06 wannabe1987 angy do you know what to do with a pork tenderloin?
05:07 wannabe1987 i inherited it...and have NO CLUE what to do with it
05:07 Katemonster wear it like a scarf.
05:07 wannabe1987 ......... ok
05:07 Katemonster :D
05:07 wannabe1987 kinda frozen right now
05:07 angy I think I would go toward Japanese cuisine with that
05:08 Killa-X your frozen? whaaaa? lol
05:08 wannabe1987 no, my pork tenderloin is
05:08 wannabe1987 japanese?
05:08 angy I was on sale not so long ago...
05:09 angy or I would cook it very slowly, somewhere between 300-350F with cracked pepper
05:09 wannabe1987 i like abby's hippo...it farts when you hug it :D
05:09 angy and create a sauce using honey
05:09 wannabe1987 cracked pepper....
05:09 wannabe1987 i don't have a grinder
05:10 angy just pepper though :)
05:10 wannabe1987 nor do i think i have peppercorns
05:10 wannabe1987 i have white and black ground pepper
05:10 wannabe1987 and cayenne.
05:10 angy I'm not very familiar with north american meat cutting
05:11 wannabe1987 my uncle is a butcher...shoulda asked him today :P
05:11 angy good idea
05:12 Katemonster angy you're french right?
05:12 wannabe1987 except he lives 2.5 hours north and i won't see him till x days...
05:12 angy yep
05:12 Katemonster just checking, i couldn't remember.
05:12 angy :)
05:13 angy I should have applied for Canadian, but I let it slip away
05:13 Katemonster hmm?
05:13 Katemonster for citizenship?
05:13 angy yep
05:14 wannabe1987 temporomandibular?
05:14 wannabe1987 whats *that* mean
05:14 angy you see you ear and your eye?
05:14 Katemonster go to Quebec and help them secede from the Commonwealth?
05:14 angy just between them
05:14 angy I'm currently in Montréal
05:14 Katemonster well there you go :D
05:15 Katemonster temporomandibular = the joint between your jaw (mandible) and skull
05:15 wannabe1987 that sucks
05:15 Katemonster which is swollen like hell on both sides, meaning i can't close my mouth all the way :(
05:16 wannabe1987 :(
05:16 wannabe1987 how long has this been happeneing
05:16 Katemonster on and off for a couple years.
05:16 wannabe1987 :(
05:16 Katemonster makes it a wee bit difficult to eat since i can't bite down very hard
05:17 Katemonster lots of ice cream.
05:17 angy that's convenient hu?
05:17 Katemonster totally.
05:19 Katemonster that, plus a muscle twitch to periodically forces one of my eyelids shut, plus a muscle knot between my shoulder blades the size and density of Mt. Rushmore
05:19 Katemonster i'm a big ol' ball of fun right now
05:19 wannabe1987 <3 ice cream
05:19 injektion <3 cake
05:19 angy I can harvest your organs and sell them if you want
05:20 Katemonster geez, i ain't dead /yet/
05:20 angy whoops, let ditch that idea for now
05:20 Katemonster LOL
05:20 Killa-X i need to buy a screen protector for my phone...
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05:21 angy hi steve!
05:21 Katemonster edgar steve!
05:21 egrsteve hello all
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05:23 Katemonster i think my wisdom teeth might be part of the problem with the TMJD
05:23 Katemonster but i don't have the money to get them out
05:23 angy get a radio :)
05:23 Killa Yay works on phone :D
05:24 Killa This is where my geek half comes in lol
05:26 wannabe1987 my mom had TMJD from stress
05:26 Katemonster i'm pretty certain all of my problems are stress-induced
05:27 Katemonster despite no longer being so stressed out; i'm not sure my body will ever recover.
05:27 Killa Most people watch TV or read a book in bed to calm and sleep easy. I chat on my phone. Yeah. Lol
05:27 Katemonster geek
05:27 Katemonster :p
05:28 Killa Woo!
05:28 wannabe1987 geeks?  none of those here...go look elsewhere
05:28 Katemonster it's like a Geek-Easy.
05:28 Killa Fine. *goes to his nerd cave*
05:29 Katemonster LOL
05:30 Killa Irc is so much nicer here. I feel its messy and conjested on the site version...
05:32 angy I'm off, at least from IRC. See ya!
05:32 Katemonster later ang.
05:32 Killa Cya!
05:32 wannabe1987 night
05:33 speedrunnerG55 wannabe?
05:33 wannabe1987 speeeeeeeeeeed
05:33 speedrunnerG55 wannnaaabeeeee
05:33 wannabe1987 sup dood
05:33 Killa Ill be off soon. Due to waking at 7:30
05:33 Katemonster speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
05:33 speedrunnerG55 its raining a lot
05:33 speedrunnerG55 Kaaatteemmoonnstterrrrrr
05:34 Killa Lol
05:35 Katemoonster oh /dude/
05:35 Katemoonster http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2011/08/28/irob​ot-110-the-recon-robot-from-my-childhood-dreams/
05:35 wannabe1987 OMG HATE THIS EPISODE
05:35 wannabe1987 katilyn died :(
05:35 Killa What about katemooster. Like a moose monster. 0.o
05:36 Katemoonster erm nothx
05:36 Killa Agreed
05:36 wannabe1987 not Katemoonster dying, but kaitlyn todd, special agent w/ NCIS
05:37 wannabe1987 i would go sleep in my bed but the bedroom was shut up all weekend (/glare at tj) so i'm sleeping on the couch where theres a breeze and its not so stuffy...rather cool, atcually
05:37 wannabe1987 tj says i could leave the bedroom door open, but then dog could get out and terrorize the house so no thanks
05:40 Killa Lol
05:40 Killa Our doggy doesn't destroy her home :P
05:41 wannabe1987 max poo's where he's not supposed to....
05:41 Killa Our doggy smart :P she whines at the door waiting for us to let her out
05:42 wannabe1987 max is still a puppy...
05:43 Killa http://imgur.com/DsGtw.jpg oh didn't know that hehe
05:44 Killa My doggy
05:45 wannabe1987 i spy a spotted doggy
05:46 wannabe1987 i also spy a sleepy kelly
05:46 wannabe1987 grrrrr
05:46 Killa Well I have to wake in 5 hours 30 mins to work. Sleep time sorry lol,  bye!
05:47 wannabe1987 night
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06:06 speedrunnerG55 WANNABE!
06:06 speedrunnerG55 the hurracanes drowning me
07:06 dr_jkl ajp-- scheisse.
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09:56 Av_Nekoroms Central Park 20 m.p.h.4.91 in.
09:56 Av_Nekoroms what kind of an hurricane is that :)
09:56 Av_Nekoroms everyone were so scared of it :)
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10:47 iSasha Hello
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10:59 iSasha 'sup brousch
11:03 brousch breakfast
11:04 westmi mmmm food
11:04 westmi sounds like a good idea
11:04 iSasha Anyone following Irene?
11:09 brousch i don' own a plane
11:14 westmi oooo your just tooo funny brousch lol
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11:43 Seroster arr¨
11:43 Seroster And now killa left, I think I scared him
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11:43 Seroster wb Hackbat
11:44 Hackbat heyo
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12:13 Hackbat lol http://hackadaycom.files.wordpres​s.com/2011/08/washingmachine.gif
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14:13 eadthem http://www.terrylove.com/forums/showthrea​d.php?32491-Reactor-in-a-portable-Miller-​Big-40-welder/page2&amp;highlight=welder  look at post 21
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14:49 Hackbat anyone ever watch videodrome?
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15:05 Seroster Yet another microwave that warns for hv, sharp edges, mains power and microwave energy
15:06 Seroster But doesnt say crap about the capacitor or the beryllium oxide antenna.
15:07 SparkyProjects But many MO's have security screws so consumers can't open them and expose themselves
15:09 Seroster This one is ph2
15:10 SparkyProjects heh, the other day i bought a couple of light switches, but the shop couldn't sell them to me unless i was an electrician as they weren''t in their  packaging with instructions :P
15:10 SparkyProjects Of course i told them i was an electrician for 32 years, and was ok to buy them
15:10 Seroster LOOOL
15:10 Seroster Here the rule is "You can change plugs, and wall sockets if you have the knowledge to do so safely"
15:10 Seroster Wich means "If it burns, its YOUR fault!"
15:11 SparkyProjects Yeah, the rule here is that you can change 'like for like' if you are 'competent'
15:12 SparkyProjects But if the shop sells you something that doesn't have instructions and something went wronng, you could sue, as the instructions also say something about being competent
15:14 Seroster heh
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15:21 injektion http://i.imgur.com/O56Db.png
15:22 Experimentonome g'day peepz
15:23 SparkyProjects Hi :)
15:24 Experimentonome http://experimentonomen.imgur.com/QC214 <-- my latest project
15:29 masterofmonks Have I ever mentioned how much I loathe that kind of board?
15:35 Experimentonome ?
15:35 astro73|derrial it's sturdier then a bread board but cheaper than a PCB (and it can be redone)
15:35 Seroster Damn those solder bridges are ugly xD
15:36 astro73|derrial Experimentonome: forgive the heathen, what is it?
15:36 Experimentonome who cares about the looks of solder joints on a prototype anyways ? :P
15:37 Seroster Still ugly =P
15:37 Seroster But I'm with ya, function before looks, but keeping stuff tidy often got a function too.
15:42 Experimentonome i can do uglier though :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW-c2EQcwSo
15:42 Experimentonome :P
15:44 Experimentonome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh2kK_uZkOk
15:44 Seroster http://www.damnlol.com/murphy​s-law-states-104.html#012000
15:45 Seroster Is that you?
15:45 Seroster And... Where are you froM?
15:45 Seroster You sound kinda... French. =P
15:45 Seroster No wait, swedish
15:45 Experimentonome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​tWvIsRke-Xk&amp;feature=related <-- moar volts! :P
15:45 Seroster The way you said "output stage" gave you away, you're a swede =P
15:47 Experimentonome output stage, inverter, amplifier, wutever ya wanna call it :P
15:47 Seroster No, the accent
15:48 Experimentonome yeh my english friggin SUCKS :P
15:48 Seroster Men inte värre än många andras.
15:49 Experimentonome uhm
15:52 masterofmonks Seroster: And I thought it was his host mask.
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15:56 Experimentonome astro73|derrial, its a bldc drive, yet incomplete, when done it'll be capable of running any 3 phase bldc motor, from the small ones in harddrives to big ones from washing machines and such
15:56 Experimentonome however the sensorless part is still under developement
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16:03 Seroster But Experimentonome you ARE a swede, right?
16:04 astro73|derrial (according to python he is!)
16:05 Seroster He sounds like one
16:05 Seroster He
16:05 Seroster His hostmask is telenor.se
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16:15 astro73|derrial what do you do with a quad stack of variacs?
16:18 eadthem lots of amps
16:18 eadthem in paralell
16:21 Seroster FRAGILE  HUMAN BODY!
16:21 Electronics give them to me
16:23 SparkyProjects You could use a quad stack in something like a theatre for dimming the house lights :P
16:25 Seroster My desk is coagulating.
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16:35 Killa-X Hellooo
16:35 Experimentonome g'day
16:35 Killa-X Sunday, What much to say =) The most boring day of the week! for me.
16:36 astro73|derrial and lab isn't even open
16:36 * Experimentonome adds the six wire hall input to his bldc thing
16:36 Killa-X it isnt? lol
16:37 Cprossu .seen egrsteve
16:37 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw egrsteve 11.25 hours ago at 2011-08-28 05:21:56 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 16:37:03 UTC
16:37 Killa-X Ya...I think when things become less busy in my life Ill probably use my traditional "Boring Sundays" as "Go to the lab" days
16:38 astro73|derrial Well, if it is, somebody should switch the stream
16:38 astro73|derrial unless there's a better way to tell?
16:39 Killa-X No idea lol
16:44 astro73|derrial electronics guys: What would you recommend for micros? I got one that needs a UART and some dig out, another with some digital in and multidevice I2C.
16:44 astro73|derrial also, I have a thing against  PICs
16:45 Seroster What are you trying to do?
16:46 astro73|derrial it's for that HVL display project. one reads data over RS-485 (iirc) from a variety of sources, and sends it along to the other, which drives a non-LCD/LED 6 digit display
16:46 astro73|derrial i'm using a one-way optical link
16:46 astro73|derrial and I figure I'll use a pile of I2C-based GPIO chips for controlling the digits
16:49 astro73|derrial i'm currently thinking about MSP430, just because of how cheap it is, and that I don't need particularly powerful micros
16:52 eadthem id recommend atmel
16:53 eadthem because the programmers 34$  and the chips are 1-10$ depending on what features you need
16:53 eadthem mega164 dose a little of everythign there about 4$ each
16:53 eadthem 32 io pins
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16:54 astro73|derrial does anyone know what programmers/dev equipment tgg already has?
16:55 Killa-X funny. my GRCC classes will help me know how to master the CNCs there haha
16:55 astro73|derrial i should see if i can take a machining class if i have room in my schedule next semester
16:55 eadthem i thought someone said about having a online inventory eventualy
16:56 astro73|derrial eventually, everything tagged, sorted, and digitized
16:56 astro73|derrial but eventualy is best measured in quarters, in this case
16:56 astro73|derrial or maybe years
16:57 eadthem well the php  and database i could do    but i bet that theres alredy several pepole that can do that
16:57 astro73|derrial piles of them
16:57 astro73|derrial and i'm not sure PHP is the preferred language
16:59 astro73|derrial (me included)
16:59 eadthem awww TGG webserver dosent have mod spell
17:00 eadthem well the site uses wordpress and thus is written in mysql and php
17:01 Peter___ Wordpress can use SQLite as well
17:03 astro73|derrial and it's more "using well-supported software" than "using PHP"
17:03 astro73|derrial i'm not sure what bocsy is written in
17:03 eadthem there a public repo of bocsy ?
17:04 astro73|derrial not to my knowledge
17:04 astro73|derrial although (imho) their should be
17:04 xanhs gonna send the cable boden needs
17:05 astro73|derrial angy seems to have something on github
17:05 astro73|derrial and yes, it's PHP
17:05 angy nothing public for bocsy
17:05 angy yet
17:06 astro73|derrial when?
17:06 angy in the near futur
17:06 eadthem so what is the eventual plan for bocsy  i know there will be door terminals and etc
17:06 astro73|derrial afaik, it's the mega software that will manage the lab
17:08 astro73|derrial it's going to manage paid memberships, access control, parts inventory, and who knows what else
17:09 angy there will be quite a few modules to bocsy to do a lot of things
17:09 astro73|derrial (i would be surprised if the hooked card accesses into the video switching so the stream follows the activity in the building)
17:09 astro73|derrial s/would/wouldn't/
17:10 Seroster Why wont I stop bleeding? -.-
17:11 SparkyProjects because you might be a 'bleeder' :P
17:11 SparkyProjects And that's actually a real term for a hemophiliac
17:11 Seroster Might be because it is an open deep wound on a joint
17:11 exor674 Seroster: because you are a carbon-based life form?
17:11 eadthem i mean it seams like there is need for a uC controlled door terminal that runs RFID and mag stripe readers
17:12 Experimentonome Seroster, try a bandaid ;)
17:12 Seroster If there is a god out there he sucks!
17:12 SparkyProjects Sometimes it depends where you cut yourself, thin skin areas often bleed more
17:12 Seroster Experimentonome, Yeah, I had three. Then it bled thru
17:12 Seroster It's a finger cut
17:12 astro73|derrial eadthem: well, if they don't exist already, I'm sure tgg will make some
17:12 SparkyProjects Seroster, put a band aid on, if it bleeds through that, don't remove it, put another on top.
17:12 Seroster Index finger, just across the middle bone
17:13 Seroster I removed it and replaced with a bigger better one
17:13 angy it's quite easy to read magstripe and rfid
17:13 angy the hard part is really connection to network and exchanging info
17:14 astro73|derrial you mean there won't be scads of cat5 running everywhere?
17:15 angy that I don't know, I'm on the communication thing, not the hardware
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17:15 astro73|derrial i feel like it would be a let down if there wasn't
17:15 astro73|derrial i mean, even the clocks could run off it
17:16 eadthem shuldnt be to hard to design a atmel or etc based board that dose the magstripe+ rfid reading for door terminals and works over ethernet
17:16 astro73|derrial not at all
17:17 angy nope, but the real communitaion part is a little more tricky
17:17 astro73|derrial how so?
17:17 eadthem real communcations?
17:17 angy you need a client on the board to be able to auth
17:17 astro73|derrial you mean you can't just have the terminal query the server based on location and RFID/mag code?
17:17 angy you have the part "query the server"
17:18 eadthem well thats not to hard
17:18 angy it is the tricky part
17:18 exor674 and it has to be a more secure protocol, I assume
17:18 astro73|derrial how secure?
17:18 exor674 because, I mean the *geek* group -- if the protocol was too simple, they'd have people breaking into the higher-security areas
17:18 astro73|derrial physically seperate network with no drops outside of server room
17:19 exor674 and getting in TROUBLE but
17:19 eadthem naa  thats not needed
17:19 angy we're not DoD procedures :)
17:19 astro73|derrial seems like the simplest way to reasonably secure it
17:19 eadthem its not to hard to make a secure protocal that operates over public lan
17:20 astro73|derrial do you really want to do cryptography on an embedded system though?
17:20 eadthem ie self updating pre shared keys
17:20 eadthem AES isnt to hard to do on a uC
17:20 angy no need to crypto, we run over tls/ssl
17:20 astro73|derrial angy: care to explain how tls isn't crypto?
17:21 astro73|derrial eadthem: speed?
17:21 eadthem there are atmel chips with a AES and DES operand
17:21 eadthem im shure others have the same
17:21 angy it's a long story
17:21 angy search the logs, I think I explained it not so long ago
17:22 eadthem if you try to make the UC work over a HTTPS however   that is asking to much
17:22 eadthem search the logs for what?
17:23 SparkyProjects Most access control systems have a 'local' box, a central computer will upload data  to these local boxes, the data is basically the auth codes, this means the network is not overloaded with auth requests.
17:23 SparkyProjects The local boxes have maybe 4 rfid inputs, and several .monitoring' inputs for door open, door secure, etc.
17:23 SparkyProjects The local box is basically a comuter motherboard, power supply, relays etc. and is connected via the network
17:24 SparkyProjects oh, and a battery for backup operation
17:24 eadthem mmm i cant imagen even a large bulding beeing overloaded with auth requests   updates and commands for bulding operations
17:24 angy I need to go read atmel/whatever spec
17:24 astro73|derrial so a local box would be on the scale of a beagleboard, and that controls several doors
17:24 eadthem one min i was aobut to grab the chip
17:24 astro73|derrial SparkyProjects: that sounds more reasonable
17:24 eadthem even if you dont use a AES capable chip you can still do aes in software  its realy not to bad
17:24 angy or go with a 68k with an embded linux
17:25 eadthem its the  attacking of aes thats horrable
17:25 astro73|derrial and gives you the necessary computertation power to do secure updates over lan
17:26 astro73|derrial i think my language centers are being crowded out by my geek centers
17:27 SparkyProjects The system i used to look after had a local box that controls up to 4 entrance doors in a building, but we had several buildings with many more doors
17:27 SparkyProjects Also, it's easier to run network cable than several multicores to each door, especially at tgg
17:27 SparkyProjects We had to run one cable for rfid, one multicore for door sensors, and another for the lock power.
17:27 wannabe1988 netbook is dying oh noes
17:27 eadthem http://point-at-infinity.org/avraes/    see  easy software for a AVR
17:28 astro73|derrial SparkyProjects: could you have enough IC/micro at the door to control it but communicate with the local over CAT5 or similar?
17:28 SparkyProjects One local box could do rfid for the rs door, and monitor the exit doors in MDH for instance, and only one cat5 to bocsy
17:28 eadthem youed need a XMEGA for hardware AES support  but you could run the video system over a Xmega    way more power than needed for a door controller
17:28 angy I need to find if I can run netbsd
17:28 eadthem what can?
17:28 angy everything :)
17:28 astro73|derrial SparkyProjects: RS?
17:29 angy Of course it runs NetBSD
17:29 SparkyProjects Roller shutter
17:29 astro73|derrial oh, the big door?
17:29 SparkyProjects yep
17:30 astro73|derrial i would think that you would keep that one on hardware-only control, and put the front door on bocsy
17:30 * exor674 hugs wannabe1988 !
17:31 astro73|derrial but, say, all the doors around the tool room, and maybe the doors to robotics and AV, on a local
17:31 Experimentonomen Oops i just discovered a little Oops on my power board, one of the gate driver ic's had its +V unconnected, npo wonder the motor had dead zones where it wouldent start on its own
17:32 SparkyProjects The only thing we had a problem with was if a local box was offline for maintenance at the same time a badge was updated it may not accept the badge straight away, but the local box would then request from the server for an update, just means you may have to show a badge 2 or 3 times.
17:32 eadthem http://tuxgraphics.org/electro​nics/200606/article06061.shtml  avr and ethernet
17:33 eadthem UDP only  witch theres nothing wrong with
17:33 astro73|derrial SparkyProjects: I feel like that's unlikely at TGG scale, and could be mitigated based on architecture and implementation
17:33 angy unless our communication is tcp based
17:34 eadthem as for power   how much power dose a electroncly unlocking door lock take?
17:34 angy atmel does arm things, so it can be fun
17:34 astro73|derrial depends on the door?
17:34 eadthem ya ARM is a diffrent thing  im only talking about AVR  the small 20 pin chips
17:35 eadthem well i was thinking  could probably do POE
17:35 astro73|derrial i think my old school had always-on electromagnets, so the locks disabled when the power went out
17:35 eadthem but if you do POE you have to have lower power door magnetics
17:36 SparkyProjects I just put it forward as an idea that you may not have realised it's existence
17:36 SparkyProjects btw, the same system is used for international companies, auth can be done over the internet too, so if you work in the UK and have access to certain areas of a building, you get the same access rights if you visit the American branch
17:37 astro73|derrial eadthem: that depends a lot on how you want edge cases to behave
17:37 eadthem all i was thinking was a bulding server that handles the UDP and packet protocal used by all the building level devices     and the building server directly connects to the mysql database
17:38 angy I have to see if I can write a client for AVR
17:38 angy only if it can be done in C
17:38 SparkyProjects Normal way we did the external locks was that they need power to open, but there was an override key.
17:38 SparkyProjects And for fire exits the crash bar operated the lock
17:38 eadthem if you need help  im a master at avr
17:38 astro73|derrial eadthem: that was my first thought, but a local box feels like you'd have less problems with lag and computation overhead
17:38 Killa-X mmmm..AVR :)
17:38 astro73|derrial Killa-X: i'm told lab is open today
17:38 eadthem and avrstudio 4 and 5 can easaly use GCC
17:39 eadthem 5 i beleve supports C++
17:39 Killa-X Ya well too bad i dont have a way up this sunday :P
17:39 SparkyProjects Internals were usually power to lock, in fact we used electromagnets
17:39 angy but I bet that will be arduino something
17:39 eadthem but most ethernet and aes routines you will find implmented as ASM for avr
17:40 eadthem prob a C library out there for it
17:40 SparkyProjects Local box has more advantages, not just data lag when the network is busy, but also reducing the length of power runs (lock etc) as you can get voltage drop
17:40 eadthem http://tuxgraphics.org/electro​nics/200606/article06061.shtml   accualy this is C
17:41 eadthem data lag?  i dont see how you could have more than .1 seconds delay
17:41 astro73|derrial angy: for the bocsy todo list: a web-based indicator to tell us if the lab is open
17:42 angy that can be done
17:42 eadthem software aes on atmel is about 63,000 bytes a second worst case  103,000 bytes a second best case  looking at this one ASM routine
17:43 SparkyProjects With bocsy seeming to be able to do just about everything tgg does (tools inventory, security cams (maybe), the server would have a 'wait in line' delay once it is fully operational.
17:43 eadthem plus would it not be more secure to keep the valid auth codes and etc off the local controllers?
17:43 astro73|derrial angy: i, for one, would find that most helpful. Nothing complicated.
17:43 eadthem still i dont see how you could have a huge wait in line
17:44 astro73|derrial eadthem: I would think that the locals would be pretty secure, since they would have no listening ports
17:44 astro73|derrial so you would need physical access
17:44 eadthem well i was thinking of someone  dismantaling one
17:44 SparkyProjects We ran our system on the intranet used for all the other computer based stuff
17:44 SparkyProjects As i said, we had several buildings, it was research labs, offices etc on a 200 acre site, and we had VOIP running on it too.
17:44 eadthem but of corse i doubt anyones going to conduct reverse engineering on a avr chip to read the codes off it
17:45 eadthem voip can be a jacked up system  so i coudl see how that could slow things down
17:45 angy authcode and everything won't be stored on the local side
17:45 angy in fact, nothing will be stored on local side
17:45 eadthem but a simple UDP server talking to uC clients  i cant see that being to demanding
17:46 SparkyProjects The intranet was often slow before we went VOIP
17:46 SparkyProjects At times it was like dial up :P
17:46 astro73|derrial angy: so you're flat out, categorically against local boxes controlling several doors?
17:46 eadthem ya but your talking about 1kb or less per a card swipe
17:46 SparkyProjects But at least the access control was always quick to use
17:47 angy that may be hard to implement, hard and soft
17:47 astro73|derrial (as SparkyProjects described)
17:47 eadthem what about compleatly stupid boxes
17:47 eadthem basicly just a ethernet controlled IO box
17:47 astro73|derrial angy: how so?
17:47 SparkyProjects From the card swipe, the system would need to search a database in a server, but if the database was in a local box ....
17:48 angy multiple doors need multiple choices
17:48 astro73|derrial Hardware might be tricky, but not much harder than rolling your own terminal-only system
17:48 astro73|derrial angy: clarify?
17:48 eadthem box receves a card scan it sends it and the reader ID to the server
17:48 eadthem server sends the reader id and a IO pin on command
17:48 angy you need to choose the door, then swipe/pin then the soft has to send the request with that particular door in some header
17:49 eadthem i mean then  you have a universal ethernet IO device  that works for everything from HVAC to door control depending entirely on the servers config for that device
17:49 astro73|derrial angy: well, in the sparky setup, each local keeps it's own access controls. But even if you don't do that, don't you still need to send that data to the server in any setup?
17:50 astro73|derrial the basic access query consists of a verb, a subject, and an object
17:50 angy yep, but not having to try find the door accessed
17:50 angy it's only a single query
17:51 astro73|derrial ummm... why would you need to "find" the door?
17:51 Killa-X mmmm 100 pounds of spring power switch cocked and ready  to be fired..
17:51 SparkyProjects oh yeah, i would personally have a local box close to the cnc machines, when activated it would be like pressing the start button on a switch (it would not stop the machine as part of safety, you do that manually when you finish)
17:52 Killa-X ive been slowly workign on my own CNC..heh
17:52 eadthem just swipe the card and it enables the start button for say 5 minuts
17:52 eadthem maby longer
17:52 angy that is a bad idea
17:52 Killa-X talking about adding lockouts to the CNCs?
17:52 angy you shouldn't think of cutting power when it's working
17:52 eadthem not thinking of that
17:52 eadthem you have a start button and a stop button
17:53 eadthem you only need to push the momentary start button to start the machine
17:53 astro73|derrial angy: in a multiplexed (sparky) setup, you know what terminal/door was accessed. In a dumb setup, each terminal knows it's own location. What's this "find the door" stuff?
17:53 eadthem power runs until you hit stop
17:53 angy find door is the location of the door in multiplexed setup
17:53 wannabe1987 i'm being barked at brb
17:53 exor674 wannabe1987: woof woof?
17:53 Killa-X always wondered..what kind of power does the lab have for its main service entrance?
17:54 SparkyProjects Most machines have a start and stop button, if the CNC's had a separate start/stop, but without a start button, you swipe the card to start, then you usee the cnc in the normal way, when you finish usng it you press the stop
17:54 astro73|derrial angy: ummm... the hardware should be made so that you know what reader was scanned, and therefore which door to open
17:55 astro73|derrial angy: scanning the database (ie, a big list) for a user/verb/subject triple isn't difficult
17:55 angy that's not even close to that
17:56 angy the database access is not that simple
17:56 exor674 SparkyProjects: I am not sure if fucking with the machines themselves is a good idea. maybe possibly a latching mollyguard over the start button that is card-controlled
17:56 astro73|derrial what am I missing then?
17:56 SparkyProjects On our system we knew which reader was scanned, we could even see if the reader was scanned with a card that wasn't valid for that particular door
17:56 angy you need 1. login, 2. accessing the function, 3. logout
17:56 astro73|derrial angy: umm.... what?
17:57 angy you don't just scan the card and send card/access/door
17:57 angy the process is quite different
17:57 SparkyProjects No need to mess with the machines, only the supply going to them, think of an on off switch on the wall with a lock, but the lock is electronic
17:57 angy you scan the card that send (crypt|nip) then (access|where)
17:58 astro73|derrial angy: right, the access query takes the form of "(user with card ___) would like to (open) (door ___)"
17:58 angy nope
17:58 eadthem angy if the to be written building server software dose the database  you just  have a single connection to the mysql server
17:58 astro73|derrial angy: is there additional verification?
17:58 eadthem not that much is needed
17:59 exor674 SparkyProjects: I don't think those machines are designed to be powered on and off willy-nilly
17:59 angy first it auth the user and create a session, then that session tries to open one particular instance of door
17:59 angy it's 2 parts
17:59 eadthem seams overly complex
18:00 astro73|derrial I agree with eadthem, but I'll roll with it
18:00 angy you can't do oversimple
18:00 angy it's just unmaintainable
18:00 angy using multiple parts permit to have master functions
18:01 angy there is no (open door) function
18:01 astro73|derrial ahhhh
18:01 angy it's a meta function of credential verification, so it can be used to everything
18:01 astro73|derrial we're trying to shoe-horn door access into the bocsy model
18:01 angy if you need to verify credential, you call the session of the user and the credential to be verified
18:03 angy and there are quite a lot of other verifications that need to be done, aside of just ``you can open that door''
18:03 astro73|derrial sorry, i've been thinking about door access in terms of generic permissions. All the systems I've seen can be abstracted to subject/verb/object.
18:03 angy can you open it ``now'' for instance
18:03 angy it can, but it's quite a little more complicated than just that
18:03 astro73|derrial fair enough
18:03 Killa-X mmmmm nearly time to starting firing the thermal gun
18:04 astro73|derrial but the factors that determine the answer to yes/no don't necessarily affect the basic query form, although they do affect the complexity of the permission database
18:05 angy for instance, if you are login in the building to do, say tiding the MDH, why would you try to access, say, my office (granted you can access it logged other way)
18:05 astro73|derrial I would just take additional identity verification (pin, biometrics, weight on door mat, etc) into the "subject" portion
18:05 eadthem all ya do is SELECT `user_id` FROM `user` WHERE `user_rifd` <=> %varable% AND `user_sha_challange` <=> %varable2%;   if a result is returned then do  SELECT `granted` FROM `user_access` WHERE `user_id` <=> %userId% AND `asset_id` <=> %asset_requested%;
18:06 astro73|derrial angy: my problem with that is that I have a very hard time expressing what i'm doing to bocsy
18:06 SparkyProjects exor674, the machines have an isolation switch on the wall, you would turn that on when you want to use it, and turn it off wen you are finished, and to ensuure untrained persons don't use the machines you can put a padlock through the switch.
18:06 SparkyProjects Think of the padlock as being electronic, this does not affect the machines in any way
18:06 eadthem %..% are c/c++ inserted varables
18:07 astro73|derrial angy: and I would not be happy with a system that limited my access based on what I tried to say what I'm doing
18:07 angy never ever turn off a CNC, unless you know very well what you do
18:07 eadthem thus bocsy lets you turn on the switch after a card swipe     but the user is relied upon to turn off the switch when finished
18:07 angy so you say you would like to say doing something, then do another thing?
18:07 eadthem and yes  most of the time you leave CNC equipment running for a long time
18:07 astro73|derrial angy: it's just down-right inconvenient, and if you want to know where I am, look at my door access
18:07 eadthem ie never turning it off unless it will be unused for more than 2 days
18:08 angy I don't turn CNC off, ever
18:08 exor674 eadthem: isn't part of the problem is most machines have no idea where they are besides keeping track?
18:08 astro73|derrial angy: as it is, the bocsy login screen is woefully insufficient for anything more than loose information
18:08 SparkyProjects angy, if you are trained and autorised, you would be allowed to turn it on, thus you would be the one that turns it off.
18:08 SparkyProjects Even now there is nothing to stop anyone just throwing the wall switch off
18:08 eadthem thus why it would make more sense to have bocsy  enable the momentary push start button
18:09 angy you need to be more than trained to turn on a CNC from completely off state
18:09 astro73|derrial and making it more complete just makes the process more of a hassle
18:09 angy either sway, CNC won't be usable on your own, you will need someone with you
18:09 eadthem exor674  not at all   its just that with the long power ups and  the thermal cycleing issues it will all last longer if its mantained at a constant warm temprature
18:10 eadthem some CNC machines have trouble with intial positioning
18:10 eadthem but thats a design flaw
18:10 astro73|derrial if you trust me to be in the robotics lab in general, why would you not trust me in there if I filed a thing saying i'm working in electronics?
18:10 angy not at all
18:10 angy that's part of the machine itself
18:10 angy if it's power off, it means it is *moved*
18:10 angy so you need to re-do all the calibration
18:11 astro73|derrial there's all kinds of edge cases that i would want to get in to a lab that i don't want to have to file paperwork for
18:11 eadthem on the Univeral instruemnts  PNP machines i mantain and program at work   we leave them on purely for thermal cycleing issues
18:11 wannabe1988 why do plugins keep dying?  will they stay alive on opera?
18:11 exor674 wannabe1988: chrome?
18:11 eadthem we can and do at times turn them off every night  but   it only takes them an extra 10 min to start cold than start warm
18:11 wannabe1988 i'm using chrome
18:11 angy thermal cycling is nowhere around to be an issue, apart you use punch-card CNC
18:11 astro73|derrial finding tools, finding people, cross-lab projects
18:11 SparkyProjects OK, lets not ponder on the machines, i only mentioned it as something i would do if it was me.
18:11 SparkyProjects But also as an example of what else the access control could do
18:12 angy what kind of CNC do you use?
18:13 eadthem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v​=oEz4L34ipYA&amp;feature=fvst
18:13 astro73|derrial i mean, you already have the data of about where I am and at tools/parts I have access to. I would think that's enough for security and inventory control.
18:13 eadthem 10,000 to 15,000 parts per hour per a head
18:13 angy that's a placing machine...
18:13 eadthem yep
18:13 exor674 wannabe1988: if the plugins are dying under chrome, you are probably going to have Opera crash
18:14 eadthem i said PNP
18:14 angy I say CNC, not the same problems when turned off
18:14 angy placement, you're right with the thermal issues
18:15 eadthem typicaly they run like crap for the first panel or 3 from a cold start   or just the first 1/2 a panel from a warm start
18:15 astro73|derrial angy: am I missing something?
18:16 eadthem i dont know much about haas but  i assume you have a start button on the machine     on UIC machines  its a momentary start button  you press it whenever you want to make it zero, start a run, start a setup function ...   thus   putting the cutoff on the start button would be the ideal place for a UIC PNP machine
18:16 angy astro73|derrial: if we were to dev function by function using the sole minimum, no, but in the big picture, a lot
18:17 eadthem witch would still leave the cycle stop and estop buttons untouched and functional all the time
18:17 angy you have a cycle start
18:17 astro73|derrial angy: sorry, i wasn't at the bocsy architecture meetings
18:17 angy I don't think it will be possible to hack into the HAAS for enabling the start button :)
18:17 eadthem only issue is you can do a lot of damage to a machine via the gui and etc  without hitting the start button      ie  trashing program files and etc
18:18 angy currently, the door access system is not really into the priorities, we have to discuss it a lot more
18:18 angy and build a hell lot of other functions before
18:18 eadthem dose HAAS run windows?
18:19 angy I don't know what CNC they use, but either NUM or Siemens
18:20 angy they run Haas control :)
18:20 astro73|derrial angy: as a general critique of your development model, I would think you'd have more community buy-in if it was more open. I totally understand keeping actual development to a limited number of people. But you notice none of us (the guys that give the The Geek Group money and the actual users of the system) have a clue what's going on with the core software
18:20 astro73|derrial just my $.02
18:20 angy neither us
18:21 angy we are currently really on a design/try process
18:21 angy a LOT more than actually producing something
18:21 astro73|derrial oh, ok. as long as we're on the same page
18:21 angy once it will be more ready, and we will have something like a stable alpha, we will interact a lot more with community
18:22 astro73|derrial is there any documentation at all as to where you'd like to go with it? what you would like it to do if you had gobs of time and energy?
18:22 eadthem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​FSGdjSHd7MY&amp;feature=related   OLD PNP machine   very very fast   and way to many moving parts    the back side thats realy realy long is the feeder bank
18:22 angy currently, it's more having coding ideas
18:22 eadthem this one moves the feeder bank back and forth quite fast
18:23 astro73|derrial ok
18:23 angy I think the only time I use a PNP I broke it
18:23 eadthem probably running OS2
18:23 eadthem never used one of them
18:23 astro73|derrial thanks for helping clear up my notion of the system. Even if I keep arguing for simpler systems :P
18:24 angy it will be simple, when you'll see the global picture
18:24 astro73|derrial nothing this big can truely be simple
18:24 angy sadly, you can't always go simple to all
18:24 eadthem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sY-Z0SKaKM   even older machine   axial inserter + sequencer
18:24 eadthem doing thruehole PNP
18:25 astro73|derrial I'll go with the python zen on this one: Simple is better than complex. Complex is better than complicated.
18:25 angy simple is great when you can do it :)
18:25 angy when you can't do simple, you break into a lot of simple tasks
18:26 astro73|derrial exactly
18:26 astro73|derrial just don't let your "simplicity" get in the way of the user
18:26 Killa-X holy crap o.o
18:26 Killa-X i just made a dent in my door XD
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18:28 angy astro73|derrial: currently, we work on the login thing
18:29 angy *just* login
18:29 Killa-X Well...
18:29 Killa-X I have one less wirenut projectile :(
18:29 Killa-X 600V, i shot it through 2 cardboard boxes, and it embedded itself in my wooden door, and shattered to peices...
18:30 astro73|derrial any chance of actually being able to use our cards to login soon?
18:30 angy I hope so
18:30 Experimentonomen http://experimentonomen.imgur.com/QC214 <-- few new pics on the bottom
18:30 angy if you have a card reader of course :)
18:30 angy (or if you know you magstripe datas)
18:31 Killa-X nice little project there experimentomen
18:31 astro73|derrial if the captain mentioned it in a video, I'm sure someone could send in an RFID card reader
18:31 astro73|derrial i have a parallax one, but it's TTL
18:31 Killa-X If anyone ever needs a board made..and lives around GR/hudsonville..i can do you up one as long as you pay for clad :P
18:32 Experimentonomen Killa-X, seen it in operation yet ?
18:33 Killa-X Nope
18:33 astro73|derrial wait ... i have an idea on that
18:33 astro73|derrial there's some USB MSP430 things in AV, last i knew
18:33 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh2kK_uZkOk <-- there ya go killa, thats before i put it together through
18:34 Experimentonomen 70VDC on a 24VDC motor :P
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18:34 astro73|derrial if they have an extra TTL for external use, you could make the appropriate converter
18:34 Experimentonomen so about 3x the rated voltage :P
18:34 astro73|derrial assuming electronics doesn't just have the necessary FTDI
18:35 Killa-X Experimentomen, looks like it working good :)
18:37 Killa-X thats one project i would like to do at the geek group, a thermal gun
18:37 Experimentonomen and that with one of the gate driver ic's not getting power due to a forgotten connection
18:37 Killa-X But its going to be extreamly extreamly hard and dangerous if the lab doesnt have thick ass metal tubes
18:38 wannabe1987 extremely*
18:38 eadthem on the same note of what Killa-X said  if TGG decides they need a lot of a board made with SMT parts  i might beabel to work something out
18:38 eadthem ie for the picking
18:38 eadthem and reflow
18:39 Killa-X ya
18:39 Killa-X I design, print, and etch my own copper clad circuit boards all the time
18:39 Experimentonomen Killa-X, find 2 steel pipes with a light press fit and put one inside the other :P
18:39 Killa-X recently got PCB mask too, but its not near as good as professional boards
18:39 Killa-X we're talking at least 1" thick
18:40 Killa-X if thumper is used at full power you need a lot of barrel strength :P
18:40 Killa-X My cap bank, is similar to thumper, but only 16 capacitors. I did a 4000 joule shot, thumper is about 88,000 joules
18:40 Killa-X and i shot a wirenut through 2 boxes and into my door D:
18:40 Experimentonomen i know what thumper is capable of
18:40 Killa-X point is
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18:41 Killa-X your taking all that explosive energy and putting it into a sealed barrel
18:41 exor674 also, I wonder if thumper is powerful enough to be used as a quarter shrinker
18:41 Killa-X plasma is rather fast..and if its not strong, Kaboom.
18:41 Killa-X it should be
18:41 Killa-X it may not have the voltage though
18:41 exor674 I remember the video where it melted too-long wire...
18:42 Killa-X I think its strong enough for quarter shrinking, but the more voltage, the faster you can create a strong magnetic pulse
18:42 Experimentonomen chris may be able to scrounge something useful, though i've never seen steel pipe thicker than around 1/8" wall other than real gun barrels
18:42 exor674 the one quarter shrinker video I've seen destroys the work coil
18:42 exor674 which seems quite long
18:42 Killa-X well, my friend in finland said to use hydraulic tubes
18:42 Experimentonomen u need thick ass wire
18:43 Killa-X afterall, thats what he's using on his 88KJ thermal gun...
18:43 Experimentonomen like from the secondary of a large stick welder
18:43 Killa-X his first day of testing that, the termination failed, and the wires went flying :)
18:43 Experimentonomen yeh i saw Kizmo's etg fail :P
18:44 Killa-X yeah :)
18:44 Experimentonomen *BOOM* and cables on other end of room
18:44 Killa-X yup :D
18:44 Killa-X i just dumped 4KJ to mine using 8awg cables, and 14awg on the actual gun
18:45 Killa-X And i dont have to disconnect my charger from the bank, due to the anti-parallel stud diode :)
18:46 Experimentonomen btw my mates at work wants me to bring a project for a live demo, their curious :/
18:47 Killa-X well sometime ill have to remember to at least give the idea and attempt a thermal gun using thumper..
18:47 Killa-X just really cerious how much force can be behind that much power..
18:52 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell angy that he needs to get me a recipe for ratatouille
18:52 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when angy is around.
18:52 wannabe1987 .seen hoedown
18:52 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw hoedown 1982.14 hours ago at 2011-06-07 04:43:50 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 18:52:19 UTC
18:52 wannabe1987 .c 1982hours into days
18:52 BotSteve 82.5833333 days
18:52 angy that's right, I have to do that
18:52 BotSteve angy: I have the following messages for you:
18:52 BotSteve At 18:52Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell angy that he needs to get me a recipe for ratatouille
18:52 angy I'm going to have that ready by tonight
18:52 wannabe1987 .c 82.58 days into months
18:52 BotSteve 2.71315857 months
18:52 wannabe1987 nice BotSteve
18:52 wannabe1987 and yes angy you do.  i didn't know if you were here or not
18:53 angy I'l half here :)
18:53 wannabe1987 http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos​-ak-ash4/s720x720/298579_1015035695127​8973_521343972_9903636_1976348_n.jpg
18:55 wannabe1987 i'm afk until i need something.  then i'm here
18:55 Killa-X Exporting thermal gun video..this may take an hour..rendering it
18:55 wannabe-afk going excersizing then as a reward swimming :P
18:57 Killa-X wooo!
18:59 Killa-X time to enjoy trance music
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19:05 injektion Has anyone here ever used an AluPen stylus?
19:06 Killa-X sadly not.. for what device?
19:07 injektion iPad
19:07 Killa-X ahh..stylus for capacitive screens..I was always fine with my finger, havnt touched a stylus for them :)
19:08 injektion I'd like to have one for hand written notes :P
19:08 Killa-X ah that makes since
19:09 Killa-X would need a stylus then that has a good low friction motion then..
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19:10 iSasha http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in​dex;_ylt=AkEZiLN88qksqr0mXxCcFiYjzKI​X;_ylv=3?qid=20110828120345AAW42CA
19:11 Killa-X lol...
19:12 Seroster Damn
19:12 Seroster I wish I had a bigger dolly
19:12 Killa-X problem?
19:12 Seroster Nah
19:13 Seroster Drove by a dumpster today
19:13 Seroster Well, biked.
19:13 Seroster 8 CRT tvs
19:13 Seroster 2 CRT monitors
19:13 Seroster One plasma screen
19:13 Seroster One Xbox
19:13 Hackbat Guys
19:13 Seroster One computer cabinet
19:13 Hackbat I think i can sue Willy Wonka
19:14 Seroster One anicent mechanical device that consists of wood and metal, who knows what it does
19:14 Hackbat or at least nestle
19:14 Seroster One washing machine, one tumble dryer
19:14 Seroster A few lamps
19:15 Killa-X washer machine..oo..lucky you
19:15 Seroster Christmas for a dumpster diving electronics geek
19:15 Killa-X good motors in those
19:15 Seroster I already have two
19:15 Killa-X wish we had dumpsters locally like that x_X
19:15 Seroster And I didnt snatch them since they were the dual bolt back cover type
19:15 Seroster And it is technically illegal to take them.
19:16 Seroster Dont wanna stand around picking them apart at 9pm....
19:16 Killa-X good job then :P
19:17 Seroster I have, here, two washing machine motors, one 12cm diameter blower fan, three vacuum cleaner motor, one ½hp 3ph motor, and the electronics from a tv
19:18 Seroster This degauss coil isn't wrapped in electrical tape, wich means I can remove the outer casing without damaging the coil (or ending up with a sticky messy coil)  - wich in turn means I have a few hundred meters of magnet wire that could become a tc.
19:18 Experimentonomen arent those degauss coils rather thick wire like 0.5mm or more ?
19:19 Killa-X I know in a TV you can make a TC with them
19:19 Killa-X maybe not all models but
19:19 injektion Hmm the alupen or this http://i1.sinaimg.cn/IT/cr​/2011/0808/2837450057.jpg
19:19 Killa-X I will tell you. those Shake flashlights, with the magnet and coil, those have enough for a decent size mini coil
19:19 Experimentonomen the ones i've taken apart was rather thick wire
19:19 Killa-X my 40" TV has a lot of 30awg in it
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19:21 mashpriborintorg hi
19:21 Killa-X hello
19:21 exor674 randomly, what is an acceptible voltage range for 120v feeds?
19:22 Killa-X like what you can read off it?
19:22 Killa-X ive seen 117 to 125..
19:22 Experimentonomen 110-130 i think, im not american so i dunno
19:22 Killa-X our kitchen reads 125 on my meter..and at school the lab metered 117
19:22 exor674 yeah, bit what is.... in spec?
19:22 exor674 I am sitting at 118
19:22 exor674 goes up to 120 at night
19:23 exor674 according to the monitoring on my UPS
19:24 mashpriborintorg Seroster: did you already happen to find induction cooking tables in the dumpter ? seems this kind of stuff does not show often
19:25 Killa-X I make my own induction.. lol
19:26 Seroster mashpriborintorg, No, sorry :c
19:26 Seroster Exor, 10%
19:27 exor674 at least the frequencey appears to be spot on
19:27 mashpriborintorg I would like to know how the coils are embedded, they should be great for direct reuse in a ring launcher
19:27 Seroster Frequenzy is far easier to keep stable than the voltage. You just have to make sure the generator spins at the same speed all the time
19:27 Seroster mashpriborintorg, They are a few turns of rather thin wire
19:28 Seroster Just a big circle
19:28 Killa-X time to stop using youtube for my itunes haha
19:28 Seroster I haven't counted the turns since it would have broken the induction coil, I was working as a repair technician =P
19:29 mashpriborintorg ok, cheap stuff that sells huge price
19:29 Killa-X there we go..back to the 1 hour 30 minute songs :)
19:29 Seroster mashpriborintorg, the coils are pretty cheap
19:29 Killa-X Ever made your own induction heater? or at least driver?
19:29 Seroster The drivers, not so much.
19:30 Killa-X Make your own. dirt cheap
19:30 Seroster Killa-X, the driver is the hard part.
19:30 Killa-X Ive made half and fullbridge induction heaters that run 400V 1000A but 10% duty
19:30 exor674 also 10% o.O it can dip all the way down to 108??
19:30 Killa-X have melted 1x5 inch steel bolts lol
19:30 Killa-X 1000A is what it was running at 10% duty
19:31 Killa-X on the coil, not the input
19:31 Seroster Yes, exor674.
19:31 Killa-X the input was 13A or so
19:31 Killa-X Tesla coils are basically induction heaters..so ive use their circuits to melt bolts :)
19:32 Seroster exor674, My 230 ph-n often goes up around 245.  (210-250v are concidered within spec)
19:32 Experimentonomen i've both made an induction heater and melted steel partially
19:34 Killa-X rather fun :)
19:34 Killa-X its fun to stick the steel in  a glass jar and just have water boil like crazy
19:35 Seroster Anyhow, shower time
19:36 Killa-X 70% on that video rendering
19:41 Killa-X 73%...so slow
19:41 mashpriborintorg hope it does not freeze at 98.9 % :/
19:42 mashpriborintorg sich things are so frustrating
19:42 mashpriborintorg *such
19:45 Killa-X hahaa
19:45 Killa-X 76% :P
19:46 Killa-X its a lot of crunching to take raw HD 720P into a compressed 720P
19:48 Killa-X Sometime outside il have to shoot my thermal gun off at full power while standing 200ft away :P
19:49 Seroster rrgh
19:49 Killa-X I was probably right saying this was a 1 hour rendering deal
19:54 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Radioactive on So far I have just created trained frogs.
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19:57 Druidic_Rifleman whats up
19:57 iSasha .seen CaptainBoden
19:57 BotSteve iSasha: I last saw captainboden 124.46 hours ago at 2011-08-23 15:29:49 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 19:57:09 UTC
19:57 Druidic_Rifleman whats up
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20:03 iSasha Not much Druidic_Rifleman, and hi Katemoonster
20:03 Katemoonster hello
20:03 Druidic_Rifleman hows the moon?
20:04 Katemoonster cheeky.
20:04 Seroster Heads and I take a shot of rum, Tails and I go for cough medicine.
20:04 Seroster .coin
20:04 BotSteve Heads!
20:04 Seroster Arr, BotSteve
20:04 Seroster Either one probably works for a cold.
20:06 Druidic_Rifleman you know iwas startinngto really enjioy your blog when you began neglecting it CSM
20:06 CSMonster there's a lot of other shit going on in my life right now.
20:06 CSMonster so that's on the back burner.
20:06 Druidic_Rifleman ah i know how that canbe
20:07 Killa-X 93%...
20:07 Druidic_Rifleman Soooo I wanna make a bull pup mag fed paint gun Famas Tavour or SA80....
20:07 Druidic_Rifleman 93% what?
20:08 Druidic_Rifleman not sure which
20:08 Killa-X my video rendering so i can upload it to youtube
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20:11 iSasha You guys think that the alphageek would be interested in some Swiss power cables?
20:12 Seroster Most likely, yes.
20:12 Seroster As a rule the lab will happily accept anything you send to them.
20:12 lwq_laptop hi
20:12 Seroster Hello lee
20:12 iSasha Nah for that thing that he asked in the captain's log
20:16 lwq_laptop .seen captainboden
20:16 BotSteve lwq_laptop: I last saw captainboden 124.77 hours ago at 2011-08-23 15:29:49 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 20:16:13 UTC
20:16 lwq_laptop holly crap
20:16 mashpriborintorg I can send a french one, and I may even have a british one somewhere, there are in bundles now them you buy stuff
20:17 wannabe-afk hi lee
20:17 SparkyProjects iSasha, Send him them anyway, i'm currently putting together some UK stuff
20:17 SparkyProjects Also it would be good to send some information about the electrical system, like in  the UK we use 240V @ 50Hz, and sockets are on a ring circuit with 32 Amp breaker
20:17 lwq_laptop how are you talking when you are aftk
20:17 lwq_laptop afk*
20:18 mashpriborintorg and the wiring color code also
20:18 wannabe-afk lee, did you ever stop and think, maybe she just got back and has not changed her nick?
20:18 wannabe-afk besides, i keep minimizing irc
20:18 iSasha Well I emailed him, offering some faceplates, unused plugs, and even some weird french/german mixed plug
20:18 wannabe-afk so then im afk again
20:19 SparkyProjects What i'm sending is a complet wall socket and backbox with some tails wired with the right cable, just like if i had removed it from a wall, and also the plugs and leads as requested
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20:20 lwq_laptop1 hi
20:20 lwq_laptop1 im back
20:20 iSasha Hmm… that will cost me quite a bit to ship all that stuff from here, not counting that I first have to buy it
20:20 lwq_laptop1 ....fucking internet
20:20 wannabe-afk did you even get what i sent?
20:20 iSasha who, me?
20:20 wannabe-afk no leee
20:20 lwq_laptop1 no
20:20 SparkyProjects iSasha, just send what you can afford
20:20 wannabe-afk lee, did you ever stop and think, maybe she just got back and has not changed her nick?
20:21 wannabe1987 ha now you cant change it
20:21 SparkyProjects I'm lucky that i have the stuff at home, so it's just the shipping i have to pay
20:21 wannabe-afk i could kick you
20:21 wannabe-afk ghost you
20:21 wannabe1987 ik
20:21 wannabe-afk i'm waiting for chanserv to kick you
20:24 lwq1996 yay more goodies to tear up....my mom is throwing away a scaner
20:24 iSasha Oooh
20:24 iSasha Nice
20:24 lwq1996 more transformers i think i may get in it
20:24 iSasha I got a cordless screwdriver yesterday, opening stuff is sooo easy now!
20:25 lwq1996 lol me too...but i have no connecter for it so i have to get one soon
20:25 iSasha connector?
20:25 iSasha as in?
20:25 lwq1996 power supply
20:25 lwq1996 charger
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20:25 iSasha Ah.. just make your own
20:25 mashpriborintorg scanners are pretty empty most the time, not very interesting
20:26 mashpriborintorg it's better to grab a good old laser printer or photocopier
20:26 lwq1996 lol
20:27 Druidic_Rifleman isasha Chriss wouyld accept a live land mine if you send one to the lab
20:27 iSasha I spent about an hour yesterday adapting a cheap iPhone/iPod screwdriver to fit my new cordless one. Works AWESOME!
20:27 iSasha Druidic_Rifleman: ya wanna try?
20:27 Druidic_Rifleman I have been looking for one
20:29 Killa-X did i read "live land  mine" o.O
20:29 iSasha Ask FPSRussia :D
20:29 mashpriborintorg No TGG members in Lybia ? must be plenty of special stuff available to pick up, right now X)
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20:29 lwq_laptop GRRR....
20:29 iSasha mashpriborintorg: damn, why don't you fly there :P
20:29 * lwq_laptop smashes his router
20:30 Killa-X roar..
20:30 Killa-X Awwww..what did the router ever do to -- oh...nvm...
20:30 iSasha It's called pishing the reset button on the router
20:31 lwq_laptop isasha...i dont have one...
20:31 Killa-X 21% video uploaded on youtube, will post the vid here when its done and rendered for HD
20:31 * mashpriborintorg hires Magneto and the USS Enterprise, have a job for them
20:31 iSasha Killa-X: what video?
20:32 Killa-X me shooting my thermal gun into some boxes
20:32 lwq_laptop lol
20:33 Killa-X Projectile: Wirenut.     Damage: 2 boxes, 1 door
20:33 iSasha thermal gun????
20:33 Killa-X electrothermal gun. ETG
20:33 Killa-X it uses a capacitor bank to vaporize foil into plasma, which is a hot gas, expands, and pushes out the projectile.
20:33 Druidic_Rifleman could askone of his house mates....
20:33 wannabe-afk lol
20:33 mashpriborintorg check Make magazine youtube channel, they made a demo of sich a thing fex days ago
20:34 Killa-X hmm
20:34 mashpriborintorg a cannon using butane
20:34 Killa-X railgun or thermal gun? similar concept, but different constructions
20:34 Druidic_Rifleman I wonder if chriss would wanna do a TGG/FPS russia colaberation vid...
20:35 iSasha Druidic_Rifleman: I WAS JUST THINKING OF THAT the other day!!
20:35 Seroster Druidic_Rifleman, FPS got like a million subscribers.
20:35 mashpriborintorg them did even fire a go-pro camera from it... thermal gun, using gas explosionn
20:35 Killa-X im only using 4000 joules.. which is nothing for this kind of thing
20:35 Druidic_Rifleman ... yeah
20:35 Killa-X yup.. Gas known as plasma
20:36 Killa-X http://i.imgur.com/rEYIx.jpg
20:37 Druidic_Rifleman those 5 galon buckt caps whats the specs on them?
20:38 mashpriborintorg try not to ruin your carpet, as photonicinduction did :)
20:38 Killa-X its so fast it wont..
20:38 Killa-X i didnt see the flash with my own eye..guess i blinked..
20:38 Killa-X Photonic doesnt care :P he has had molten copper wire fall on the floor, fires, etc :D
20:39 iSasha Killa-X: have you at least used a real gun?
20:39 Killa-X ive shot a sniper (no idea what cal) and i shoot 12 guage shotgun all the time
20:40 iSasha Cool
20:40 Killa-X its just more fun knowing the gun uses electricity and foil, and making it yourself :P no matter how bad it shoots :D
20:40 iSasha send me the link when you're done ;)
20:40 Seroster Damn, this monitor got some insane RF shielding
20:41 Killa-X mine must too, they have lived TC enviroments
20:41 mashpriborintorg old school CRT moniters were beautifully made
20:42 Seroster mashpriborintorg, this is a samsung...
20:42 mashpriborintorg I took one apart recently, and was amazed by the  quality
20:43 iSasha It'm really surprised that all of the TVs in our house are still CRTs
20:43 mashpriborintorg it was still working tho, but no use for a 14 inch crt..
20:43 Killa-X iSasha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta7IiLB9uLc is an attempt a bud of mine did, using a bank at 50% charged (equal to thumper at max power)
20:44 iSasha HOLY SHI.. I mean, cool :P
20:44 mashpriborintorg you may check the tigantic microwave oven explosion, onto Tesla500's yt channel
20:45 mashpriborintorg this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Gn0auLFUA
20:45 Killa-X i dont think he has even done full power on that bank..and little math, if thumper gets 400 capacitors, its equal in power.
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20:46 mashpriborintorg turning an innocent microwave into a real bomb
20:46 Seroster I love you SparkyProjects
20:47 Killa-X ostrage egg does microwave bombing too.
20:47 SparkyProjects what are you after now Seroster :P
20:47 Seroster xD
20:47 Killa-X *sticks AL+CuO into microwave* wonder if it will explode...
20:47 Seroster I just desarmed a crt without glass all over the room
20:48 SparkyProjects You see how knowledge and experience helps ?
20:48 SparkyProjects :D
20:48 Killa-X dont you just short the flyback's wire where it connects to the tube?
20:48 Seroster What, Killa-X ?
20:48 Killa-X so the tube of the CRT isnt charged
20:48 Experimentonomen ¨how old is Seroster ?
20:49 Seroster That is not how you desarm a crt, Killa-X.
20:49 SparkyProjects Killa-x, Seroster meant about following my method to remove the vacuum safely, and not with a big hammer
20:49 Killa-X you discharge it by using a grounded screwdriver. you hear a POP ad its safe.. lol
20:49 Seroster Experimentonomen, You could direct that question at me, instead of a third person :c
20:49 Killa-X ahh remove the vacuume
20:49 Seroster Heh, NO, Killa-X.
20:49 Killa-X that you ment the charge :)
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20:49 Killa-X electrical charge.
20:49 Seroster If you just zatt the charge to ground you will still get bit by the crt.
20:50 Killa-X thats how i discharge my tubes.
20:50 Killa-X grounded screwdriver.. it makes a loud pop..then i pull the cup off.
20:50 Seroster Trust me, I thought I grounded it, and got bit. then I grounded it again, and again, and again
20:50 mashpriborintorg throwing the bare CRT onto a conctrete floor works well :p
20:50 Seroster Then I got pissed and just left it connected to my radiator overnight.
20:50 Killa-X well, i never got zapped on one doing it...thtas my way. lol
20:50 mashpriborintorg lol
20:51 Killa-X my first method was TV + rock
20:51 Seroster I've heard all the horror stories about people being thrown across rooms from crts, but I've never ever seen one, or even heard a first hand story
20:51 Killa-X same
20:51 Seroster mashpriborintorg, The point of safely desarming a crt is NOT to have glass all over the room.
20:51 Killa-X ive been personally told by tpeople it hurts less than a horse fence. but depends the age
20:51 SparkyProjects I ground from the HV terminal to all the pins, and to the front frame, that usually works
20:51 Killa-X Some tubes hold that charge for years. some for hours
20:52 Seroster I have a steel shaving ball connected to a welding wire, connected to the radiator. Stroke anything with it and it shorts eitehr internally or to ground
20:52 Killa-X but yeah, we covered our 40" tv with a sheet and some plastic warp. smashed it. and picked the board out, dumped the rest
20:53 Seroster Heh
20:53 Seroster Killa-X, Phospor. Nasty.
20:53 Killa-X Works :) no mess to pick up lol
20:53 Seroster There is one better way
20:53 Seroster Remove the board from  the electron gun pins
20:53 Killa-X and it makes a  cool wooshing sound from the plastic :P
20:53 Seroster In the middle is a point where you can jam in a screwdriver and beat the driver with a hammer, makes air rush in slowly
20:53 Seroster And you get little or no shrapnel.
20:54 mashpriborintorg and then goes to the landfgill and kills all the little animals
20:54 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Alphageek on Massive toronto lightning storm
20:54 Killa-X lol
20:55 SparkyProjects Killa-x, if you break the nipple in the middle of the pins, the air rushes in (may take a minute to equalise), then you tap around the neck to break it off, you can then tap the rest of the glass so it collapses into the front part, you can also break the neck assembly using the fronf section as a catchment 'bowl'
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20:56 Killa-X yeah..that works too
20:57 Killa-X but sometimes when its not your TV or a friend is there, it can be more fun to just smash..
20:57 mashpriborintorg I had to deal with a plasma display, it's nasty also
20:57 Killa-X mainly when you see idiots on youtube do it. Baseball bat..fails..Rocks..fails :P
20:57 Killa-X why would plasma displays be nasty..?
20:58 mashpriborintorg sharp glass when broken
20:58 Killa-X ahhh gotcha
20:58 mashpriborintorg and some of it glued onto a big plain aluminium piece I wanted to salvage
20:59 Killa-X aww..thats too bad
20:59 Killa-X the mesh metal sheet that covers the whole screen?
20:59 mashpriborintorg the back plane
20:59 Killa-X ah..that would be handy as well
21:00 Killa-X id like to find a junked laser TV..too bad that wont happen for years, seeing they have only been out for a year or two
21:00 mashpriborintorg it's a plain aluminium piece, the screen is double-face adhesive glued onto it, and it is the main structure of the complete thing
21:01 Killa-X mmmhmm
21:01 mashpriborintorg I need a DLP projection tv core to play with thedlp
21:01 Killa-X i have a DLP micromirror display
21:01 mashpriborintorg or dlp videoprojector
21:02 Killa-X but its just the micromirror..i trashed the rest as the unit wasnt working. sold the SMPS, and kept the mains filtering board
21:03 mashpriborintorg I will get one, soon or late. watching to the dlp in activity must be awesome
21:03 Killa-X yeh
21:03 Killa-X i wanted to LED mod the projector but it had too many issues
21:04 Killa-X ive seen people succesfully mod projectors using equal lumens to the origional bulb, with an LED
21:04 Killa-X 75W would have matched it :)
21:05 mashpriborintorg they will all be with leds or lasers soon
21:07 Killa-X http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6u1rJJ_Y4o
21:08 eadthem the problem with lasers is you have to bend the light
21:10 eadthem a DMD dose not bend light for the purpose of scanning a screen   just to bend a paticular pixle to or from the focal point of the optics   ie  much smaller angles
21:10 eadthem the other issue with laser projectors is if you want to fill a whole screen   you will need the equivlent lumens and thus wattage you had with the LED or incandecent light source
21:11 eadthem ie a 75W laser  or there abouts
21:11 eadthem and if your light bender   lets assume its rotating mirrors fails  you have a 75W lightsaber aimed at what was a projection screen
21:13 eadthem even multiple lasers drawing there own section of the screen you can never get back to the same safety you had with a DMD or LCD projector
21:15 mashpriborintorg yeah, and newer power leds will be much more convenient for such devices anyway
21:16 Killa-X *looks at his 1W blue laser* mmmmm lasers..
21:17 eadthem if you ever notice laser shows rairly have filled in polygons  and never very large
21:17 eadthem mostly drawing lines or  outlines of objects
21:17 eadthem its the same reason
21:18 eadthem the more you spread the beam  the dimmer it gets
21:18 Seroster fffffffffffuuuuu microsoft
21:18 eadthem i agree
21:19 eadthem what did they do this time ?
21:19 Killa-X what havnt they done ;)
21:19 Seroster T12 scres in an xbox
21:20 mashpriborintorg black V1 xbox ?
21:20 Seroster think so
21:20 eadthem you bought a xbox?
21:20 mashpriborintorg took one apart, nothing to see it it
21:20 Seroster eadthem, bought?
21:20 Seroster BWAHAHAHHA
21:20 Seroster Yeah
21:20 Seroster "bought"
21:21 eadthem i assume because its broken you must of bought it
21:21 eadthem within the last fue months
21:22 dr_jkl WAAAH DISCRIMINATION http://i.imgur.com/KE0Je.jpg
21:22 eadthem hey wens the next time paul and duck will do a monthly update
21:23 mashpriborintorg and Xbox 360 are a hell to take apart it you haven't got the very special tool... you undo one clip, an other clip remates
21:23 Killa-X hah
21:23 Killa-X yeah my friend recently redid the heatsink on his, used better thermal past, factory one was crap
21:23 Seroster mashpriborintorg, I have ben inside a Miele coffe machine
21:23 eadthem thats what hapens when a software company creates hardware
21:24 Killa-X yup..
21:24 mashpriborintorg first they have to finish the post-prod for forlift autopsy videos :p
21:24 mashpriborintorg oh oh is it craptacular ?
21:24 Seroster The ones I was inside were $5000+ models
21:25 Seroster The tubes are crap
21:25 Seroster The heaters are garbage
21:25 mashpriborintorg If you try to disassemble a Philips senseo, the platic body does just explode at you face, holy shit
21:25 Seroster The connection rings for the tubes are complete bullshit
21:25 dr_jkl YES IT DOES
21:25 Seroster The cases are all snap on plastic CRAP
21:25 eadthem ?
21:25 dr_jkl i had one of those randomly explode on my fucking kitchen counter
21:25 mashpriborintorg but it's 5000$ shit
21:25 Druidic_Rifleman dr_jkl whats with that pic...
21:25 * exor674 hugs dr_jkl!
21:25 Seroster I HATE HATE HATE coffe machines -.-
21:26 eadthem drink water  its cheeper
21:26 Seroster Break ONE little tab and the machine wont close
21:26 Seroster And it got sensors all over to make sure you cant run it without all the panels on
21:26 dr_jkl heya exor674
21:26 dr_jkl how are you? *hug!*
21:26 exor674 dr_jkl: better then yesterday, but I still HURT :(
21:27 dr_jkl awww
21:27 lwq_laptop1 hi...im  back
21:27 mashpriborintorg well, I need to so sleeping, bye
21:28 lwq_laptop1 night...well morning...well afternoon
21:28 Seroster So first you try it out, then you develop a theory about what is wrong, then you take it apart, try what you think is bad, swear, put it all together, undo it since you did it wrong, put it together again, try it, notice it didnt work, open again, cuss, remove some hoses, blow them through, reassemble, cuss, disassemble and properly reassemble, cuss more, try it out, notice a leak, diassemble, replace hose clamp, reassemble, notice
21:28 Seroster it wasnt THAT clamp, cuss more....
21:28 Seroster I prefer a wart on my dick over working on a coffee machine =P
21:29 Druidic_Rifleman what coffe machine
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21:29 eadthem what kind of a coffie mahcine we talking about
21:29 Seroster Any, really.
21:29 eadthem the mr coffe my parents alwase had looked incredably simple
21:30 Seroster Not that kind
21:30 eadthem low power hot plate  boiler with a float switch    and a power switch    couple thermal fuses  that was it
21:30 eadthem accualy it might not even have a float swtich
21:30 Seroster I mean the one that makes a dozen types of coffee, steam, skimmed milk...
21:30 eadthem the boiler and hotplate may be the same part     never opend it up
21:31 exor674 dr_jkl: I hate my back *so muuuuch!*
21:31 eadthem o your talking abotu the coffie makers that have a better CPU than your cellphone
21:32 Seroster eadthem, ever seen a mr coffee for $5000?
21:32 Seroster I wouldnt call that crap "better", but sure =P
21:32 eadthem i assumed you wer drunk and got taken for a ride
21:32 eadthem :p
21:32 Seroster Any machine that knows when it is open is EVIL
21:33 eadthem ile agree with that
21:33 eadthem 1/2 the safty swtiches on the PNP machines at work are dsabled  hotwired and shorted
21:33 Seroster *Cept for microwave ovens. But in that case there is an actual reason for it
21:33 Seroster lol
21:33 dr_jkl arggh
21:33 eadthem maby if they hadent of put tinted windows on them we wouldnt have to open the door to watch it spraying parts all over
21:33 eadthem or breaking PCB's in 1/2
21:33 eadthem on a good day
21:34 Seroster heh
21:34 Seroster But yeah, when you install overkill safety switches people will override them
21:34 eadthem i mean seriously  tinted windows on a CNC robot
21:34 Seroster And when you overcome the intertia of removing one safety function it won't take you long to remove the rest too
21:34 eadthem atleast the AOI machine has a optical doorway
21:35 Seroster eadthem, I suppose that is so it can be used with a welding head.
21:35 eadthem if you put something in the optical door while its in motion it estops      but it lets you see everything
21:35 Seroster Erm
21:35 eadthem Seroster   naw   pick and place machine   the ones i linked a fue hours back
21:36 eadthem the windows are tinted about 6 leveals darker than street legal   and they got 2 keyyed interlocks per a window/door
21:36 Seroster '-'
21:36 Seroster Here is a nifty piece of technology
21:37 Seroster A 2cm long 1cm wide pcb with a usb port on
21:37 eadthem afk for couple hours
21:37 Seroster It was living in the female for the xbox
21:37 Seroster So you can use a usb controlle with it
21:38 Seroster ...Females for xbox controllers... Somewhere someone will pay a lot for them
21:39 Seroster However I do not have the room nor the time to find that person. Trashcan next.
21:39 Seroster btw, SparkyProjects, I have a question about crt electron guns
21:39 SparkyProjects What's the question
21:39 Seroster I disassembled a crt out at the dumpster
21:40 Seroster Took care of the tube with the steel tipped boot method
21:40 Seroster Picked out the electron gun and threw it in the electronics dumpster nearby
21:40 Seroster There was a bit of water in that dumpster, and the electron gun assembly fizzed when it landed in that water.
21:40 dr_jkl [Dheh
21:40 Seroster Could there be alkali metals in an electron gun? Or did it get warm? How would it get warm?
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21:41 Seroster I suppose a fair bit of air rushed past it, but that wouldnt cause such a friction heating, right? =P
21:41 SparkyProjects I don't know what chemicals are added to the tube, but like a fluro tube, they could add something
21:42 Seroster There's P in the tube, that I know, but yeah. =P
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21:52 Seroster Anyhow... I'm off to hit the hay
21:52 Seroster Cya folks
22:02 lwq_laptop1 hi
22:04 exor674 why does being in pain SUCK SO MUCH
22:05 lwq_laptop1 umm because its pain...unless your emo...then its pleasing
22:06 lwq_laptop1 exor674 what did you do?
22:06 exor674 nothing :(
22:06 lwq_laptop1 what hurts
22:07 lwq_laptop1 exor674 where does it hurt
22:07 dr_jkl show me on this doll.
22:08 * dr_jkl hugs exor674 gently
22:08 dr_jkl i know what it's like sweetie.
22:08 exor674 <3
22:09 exor674 lwq_laptop1: today, along my spine and upper back
22:09 dr_jkl mine's in my lower back.
22:09 dr_jkl lower back, legs, occasionally my hip...
22:09 lwq_laptop1 exor did you do any lifting
22:09 Cprossu what's been going on here this sunday?
22:10 exor674 upper back, lower back, mostly right leg. sometimes my left leg hurts but I think that's just because I baby it's sister. and I have funtimes foot and leg tingling YAY
22:10 lwq_laptop1 lol
22:13 wannabe-afk CHA CHA
22:14 * exor674 cuddles wannabe?
22:14 lwq_laptop1 o.o
22:14 lwq_laptop1 not weird
22:15 wannabe-afk i had a neck/shoulder massage yesterday and hand/foot today...i'm good thanks
22:15 exor674 maybe I need cuddles? <3
22:15 wannabe-afk i don't want to hurt you :(
22:15 exor674 you wont!
22:16 wannabe-afk ok
22:16 exor674 1. ecuddles can't hurt, 2. even if it was an IRL cuddle, it's not too hard to be careful
22:16 wannabe-afk drew hooked up a cb radio talky thing to his computer.  should i be worried?
22:16 lwq_laptop1 no
22:16 wannabe-afk y
22:16 lwq_laptop1 maby
22:16 wannabe-afk lol
22:17 wannabe-afk i'm more perplexed
22:17 lwq_laptop1 idk
22:17 lwq_laptop1 exor do you need a cuddle still?
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22:17 wannabe-afk i told the rest of the story to tgg_NSFW
22:17 wannabe-afk cuz its NSFW
22:18 * wannabe-afk bombards exor674 w/ cuddles
22:18 exor674 is that the name of the channel?
22:18 wannabe-afk #tgg_NSFW
22:18 wannabe-afk yeah
22:19 Hackbat :D
22:19 Hackbat Netflix has Sgt. Frog
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22:24 iSasha Typical evening conversation : http://pastebay.com/136779
22:27 wannabe1987 I LOST THE GAME, sorry
22:35 wannabe1987 http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot​os-ak-snc7/291769_253695094663820_13​7264046306926_870304_7406640_n.jpg  so glad we don't get this...
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22:48 iSasha GEZUZ
22:48 iSasha I just turned on my mac and it opened everything automatically in less time that it takes me to wake my old computer out of sleep!
22:54 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: AdderD on Building an open source AC motor controller
22:56 wannabe1987 hi BotSteve
22:56 BotSteve Greetings wannabe1987!
22:56 wannabe1987 iSasha?  uh oha reyou turning into a mac now?
22:57 iSasha HELL YA
22:57 wannabe1987 uh oh
22:57 iSasha :P
22:57 wannabe1987 as long as you don't iQuit you're good
22:57 iSasha iQuit?
22:57 wannabe1987 suicide by mac
22:58 iSasha ????…. ????? WHAT????
22:58 iSasha Who relates these things to macs?
22:59 iSasha BTW, I'm gonna pull an all nighter tonite, because the only version of the book that I need to read that I could find online for free was in an audio book, so I can do the first 2 and last 2 paragraphs trick :(
23:00 iSasha bbl
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23:05 wannabe1987 http://theoatmeal.com/comics/weather  LOL
23:25 wannabe1987 BATS!
23:25 BatSteve hi wannabe1987!
23:25 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
23:25 BotSteve At 04:31Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell BatSteve that we're using his bot to drink
23:25 BatSteve I saw that
23:25 BatSteve he didn't want you drinking vodka
23:25 BatSteve it was hilarious
23:25 wannabe1987 lol
23:25 wannabe1987 i drank a bit anyway :P
23:33 Hackbat E nomine + cat attacking a sock = lulz
23:34 injektion What kind of fine would I get if I was get caught urinating on the door of a business
23:35 injektion to get*
23:35 masterofmonks Probably get listed as a sex offender for one.
23:35 masterofmonks No, I am not kidding.
23:35 BatSteve monks is probably right
23:36 BatSteve also, I'm pretty sure urinating in public is a crime in some places in and of itself
23:36 injektion I want to urinate on the door of a "christian debt collector" who owns 9 houses and has all of his assets listed under his wife's religious non-profit
23:36 BatSteve oh
23:36 BatSteve Probably avoid mentioning that - then it's probably a "hate crime" too.
23:36 masterofmonks And there you would probably get slapped with a religious hate crime too.
23:37 masterofmonks So you are looking at a maximum sentence of 10-15 years.
23:37 BatSteve ::nod::
23:38 wannabe1987 lol
23:39 injektion dammit
23:39 masterofmonks So really not worth it.
23:39 injektion I find how they determine "religious hate crime" somewhat lopsided when it comes to fairness
23:39 masterofmonks This may be true.
23:40 wannabe1987 how so?
23:40 masterofmonks Also we should probably move this to NSFW
23:40 injektion I'm stopping before it gets too far
23:41 NeWtoz I like nuts
23:41 NeWtoz I have a thing for trail mix
23:41 wannabe1987 i LOVE nomming nuts :P
23:42 wannabe1987 these are sliced almonds
23:42 BatSteve peanuts all the way
23:43 NeWtoz I like a mix
23:43 wannabe1987 my friend just rolled his car to 300,000 miles...
23:43 wannabe1987 on a ford
23:43 NeWtoz almonds are good for fiber
23:43 wannabe1987 so do i NeWtoz but those are expensive to buy
23:45 injektion wannabe1987, I did 500k on a 1999 F-250 heavy duty
23:45 wannabe1987 nice. his is a taurus
23:45 wannabe1987 the spaceship kind
23:45 injektion I'm surprised the taurus made it that far
23:46 wannabe1987 lol me too
23:46 injektion Hell I'm surprised to see any ford from the 90s still running
23:46 wannabe1987 its kinda rusty/rickety...
23:46 wannabe1987 hey now...mines from the 90s!
23:47 wannabe1987 its still alive
23:47 wannabe1987 saw a ford galaxie this weekend
23:47 wannabe1987 it was still running too!
23:47 injektion The 80s and the 90s were from the shitty period when ford made the tempo
23:47 wannabe1987 and horizon?
23:50 injektion A lot of unwanted shit came out of the 80s and 90s car wise
23:50 wannabe1987 brb, being barked at again :(

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